I think there was MORE surge with the Tial - the HKS valve itself has a flutter to it. The Tial actually allows some surge before it fully opens. I think it's less responsive than the HKS.
You can prevent your dash (and other light sources) from flickering by choosing a different frame rate and shutter speed combo for filming. The reason it happens is because different countries have different frequencies to the power lines, and usually things manufactured there that are powered remotely seem to reflect that. If you want a "universal" setup that _should_ eliminate flicker in all countries/devices, then your frame rate and shutter speed each have to be matching an even multiple of every country's frequency. It's not the only thing to consider with frame rate and shutter speed, though, as too high a shutter speed lacks motion blur and makes the movement look unnatural. 1/40th of a second to 1/60th of a second is "natural" motion blur, regardless of frame rate until the frame rate is higher than 60fps, at which point matching it to your shutter speed will look right (when you're playing it back at full speed/real-time as opposed to using it for slow motion, where you can use the 2x frame rate guideline for crisper slow motion). Nonetheless, here is the list of applicable frame rates and their universal anti-flicker shutter speed combos: >24fps, 1/50th and 1/100th of a second shutter speed. (looks the worst IMO and is actually the least versatile. Also has potential editing issues if you mix up 23.98 and true 24) >25fps, 1/30th, 1/40th, 1/60th, and 1/120th of a second (but not 1/125th) ((this looks okayish and classically cinematic with 1/40th or 1/60th and doesn't have the issue with a decimal version since the PAL frame rates (25/50/100) never had decimal versions)) >30fps, 1/50th or 1/100th (My overall personal favorite with 1/50th and the best balance of "cinematic" and "smooth") >50fps, 1/60th or 1/120th (again, not 1/125th, those aren't the same) ((this is the most versatile, if you want the full explanation why, just ask)) >60fps, 1/100th (Technically the second-least versatile, but still decent for high-speed race drone/freestyle drone footage. Not the best when filming humans or stuff that needs to look natural at normal, everyday speeds)
@@ShealeysGarage Yeah, your dash might still flicker after all that because it IS still a car and who really knows what the electrical system on that (or in those dash electronics) is really doing, but still, the rest still applies for the street lights and what looks good vs not good.
scgarageworks.com Great quality steering wheel and the interaction quality with the company wasn’t bad. I wanted to have a center marker on it, that they left off but in the end I still like it. I also have a video covering the steering wheel install in my previous videos.
Yeah it’s dependent upon the spring rate and engines vacuum pressure…in addition to the amount of boost. Most Supras I’ve seen it on that have the noticeable “Tial stutter” are running more boost than I am.
Good video been trying to find a video showing bov during regular driving. When your seeing the piston open or slow to close on part throttle, is that boosted air escaping or vacuum pulling the piston open? Im wanting to figure out how to prevent unfiltered air entering the engine
Thanks man. The valve remains closed when the car is at idle, so you won’t have to worry about ambient air entering through the BOV and damaging anything. When you watch the video and see the valve slow to close after letting off the throttle between shifts, that’s because back pressure is exiting from the valve and I’m not demanding the turbo to spool and overcome that. During WOT (wide open throttle) shifting its faster and you won’t be as evident.
No bullshit, No filler, No clickbait. Thank you for not wasting people's time and great video great sound quality great execution.
No problem and thanks for the comment. Much appreciated.
Appreciate you taking the time to make and post this video. The bov sounds great!
I noticed there's no decent videos out there especially for our cars, just trying to help the community decide which BOV to snag. Thanks man.
@@ShealeysGarage Absolutely man!
Wow!! Sounds amazing!! Thank you for sharing these informative videos.
Thanks for viewing multiple videos and the comments!
This sounds wayyyyyyy better.
Thanks for the comment.
those outside views are amazing!
This video just changed my opinion of the Tail...thanks. Supra sounds good.
No problem and glad it could help.
Sounds the exact same on my 400hp cobalt ss I love it.
What spring you on? I have tail bov on mines but i don't hear bov on 11psi spring yellow
@@Phillykappa215 I use an 18"
I’m currently using an 11psi spring as well.
I think there was MORE surge with the Tial - the HKS valve itself has a flutter to it. The Tial actually allows some surge before it fully opens. I think it's less responsive than the HKS.
Sick video bro. You just sold me on buying a TiAL
Thanks for the awesome comment dude and glad I could help!!🤙🏽
Sounds amazing man! I’m definitely sold on the bov and am definitely gonna be ordering it soon. Also nice demonstrations too!
Thanks dude and glad The video helped in making your decision on which bov to get. I’m sure it’s gonna sound nice on your IS as well.
I cringed at 1:36 too 🤣 Sounds sweeet- many more smiles per gallon!
Haha yeah I wasn’t to happy about hitting that haha. Thanks for the comment!
Supra Mk4, will always be the best, Tial Q, that's what im going to install in my 15 STi
You'll enjoy the BOV man, it performs very well when paired with the appropriate spring pressure.
Cool shot of the suspension at work.
Did you get that BOV installed yet?
Great videos. Keep them coming.
Thanks and will do.
You can prevent your dash (and other light sources) from flickering by choosing a different frame rate and shutter speed combo for filming. The reason it happens is because different countries have different frequencies to the power lines, and usually things manufactured there that are powered remotely seem to reflect that. If you want a "universal" setup that _should_ eliminate flicker in all countries/devices, then your frame rate and shutter speed each have to be matching an even multiple of every country's frequency.
It's not the only thing to consider with frame rate and shutter speed, though, as too high a shutter speed lacks motion blur and makes the movement look unnatural. 1/40th of a second to 1/60th of a second is "natural" motion blur, regardless of frame rate until the frame rate is higher than 60fps, at which point matching it to your shutter speed will look right (when you're playing it back at full speed/real-time as opposed to using it for slow motion, where you can use the 2x frame rate guideline for crisper slow motion).
Nonetheless, here is the list of applicable frame rates and their universal anti-flicker shutter speed combos:
>24fps, 1/50th and 1/100th of a second shutter speed. (looks the worst IMO and is actually the least versatile. Also has potential editing issues if you mix up 23.98 and true 24)
>25fps, 1/30th, 1/40th, 1/60th, and 1/120th of a second (but not 1/125th) ((this looks okayish and classically cinematic with 1/40th or 1/60th and doesn't have the issue with a decimal version since the PAL frame rates (25/50/100) never had decimal versions))
>30fps, 1/50th or 1/100th (My overall personal favorite with 1/50th and the best balance of "cinematic" and "smooth")
>50fps, 1/60th or 1/120th (again, not 1/125th, those aren't the same) ((this is the most versatile, if you want the full explanation why, just ask))
>60fps, 1/100th (Technically the second-least versatile, but still decent for high-speed race drone/freestyle drone footage. Not the best when filming humans or stuff that needs to look natural at normal, everyday speeds)
Thanks for the info man. I was unaware that you could get rid of that. I appreciate the wealth of information.
@@ShealeysGarage Yeah, your dash might still flicker after all that because it IS still a car and who really knows what the electrical system on that (or in those dash electronics) is really doing, but still, the rest still applies for the street lights and what looks good vs not good.
1:35 I felt your pain thru my screen when you hit that pothole
😂 I was complaining about that pothole the rest of the time filming that video haha.
Hey sir which spring rate do you have? pretty sure i have the wrong one in my JZ car lol
I’m currently running an 11psi spring. Haha. Hope this helps.
Well thanks to this video I am sold 😅… great video I know it’s a year old but still handy
Thanks for the comment and time is relative haha.
Where did you get that steering wheel?? Sounds amazing by the way
scgarageworks.com
Great quality steering wheel and the interaction quality with the company wasn’t bad. I wanted to have a center marker on it, that they left off but in the end I still like it. I also have a video covering the steering wheel install in my previous videos.
Also thanks for the comment!
I thought the tail go stututut or it does that because of the spring rate?
Yeah it’s dependent upon the spring rate and engines vacuum pressure…in addition to the amount of boost. Most Supras I’ve seen it on that have the noticeable “Tial stutter” are running more boost than I am.
Good video been trying to find a video showing bov during regular driving. When your seeing the piston open or slow to close on part throttle, is that boosted air escaping or vacuum pulling the piston open? Im wanting to figure out how to prevent unfiltered air entering the engine
Thanks man. The valve remains closed when the car is at idle, so you won’t have to worry about ambient air entering through the BOV and damaging anything. When you watch the video and see the valve slow to close after letting off the throttle between shifts, that’s because back pressure is exiting from the valve and I’m not demanding the turbo to spool and overcome that. During WOT (wide open throttle) shifting its faster and you won’t be as evident.
Should of put a greddy type s bov.
Sounds great, which spring psi did you get?
In the video I was using a 10 psi spring, however I switched to an 11 psi spring shortly after filming this video.
What exhaust is on the car?
HKS TI 4” Race Exhaust
Good video
Thanks man.
What are the wheels do you have on? Thanks
Work Emotion CR 2 Piece wheels
My dream car😭 would have to be cream white tho
Ok, I'm sold. Are you from GA?
Yes sir!
@@ShealeysGarage looks like Richmond hill.
Haha good eye! I take it your are from the area as well?
What turbo are you running?
PTE 6766 with a .81ar
What did you hit??
Your freaking road dude right after the roundabout on HWY 144. It’s not marked there’s a crater there. I didn’t see it till the last second haha
Hks bov function as a blow off valve sucks