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NSA is tracking Linus. Uses up the battery.
Install LineageOS! That way, only the NSA backdoor in the firmware remains, and that one uses little battery power, to be hard to detect!
Isn't he from Canada
nsa don't caaaree
@@kanewilliams5482 NSA reaches lotsa of countries including Canada
USA doesnt care for borders, if they could the would invade every country, they just jait for excuses to "give democracy" to the rest of the world, like when they put a few Dictators in power to avoid democraticly elected Socialist presidents in a few countries. or give weapons to extremist, like isis, yea, USA, giving democracy to the world
You'll never see this comment 10,000 comments in, but if you see this and you haven't tried it, run your phone in safe mode for a while. That runs the phone with firmware only, and if it fixes your issue, you can confirm it's an app that's doing it.
Nice. Hope he sees your comment. +Thumbs up
If an app is draining the battery it should appear on the battery stats, the only way it can be hidden in there is if it's a root app specifically programed to do that (and I don't think he has a rooted phone) or if it's a system app (wich will run even in safe mode).
TL:DR Tecnically useless sugestion
great idea but what if it was a firmware update?
I have an app that told me that com.google.android.gms.persistent was eating a lot of my battery (or more specifically CPU), but with Android 8.0 the ability for normal apps to see CPU usage has been blocked and now the most I can see is that "System" typically takes the majority of my CPU even when I'm not using any apps all day.
Now granted, it wasn't taking a LOT of CPU, it was something like 1 minute of CPU per hour, but this is still enough that it was draining my battery before the end of the day, for basically not using my phone at all!
My S7 was decent till I updated to oreo... then android system was sucking juice even on idle: phone getting hot and battery not making it through even the majority of a day without the need to charge even with minimal use. I dug around in it and killed beaming service and now the battery life is back to near new levels...
Just download more batteries.
it's like when your phone gets too hot, go buy some ice cubes on Amazon
I downloaded a 12v from the piratebay and now I'm a %400 battery
you can download more ram while you are at it
Thati impossible, you cant just download a more max battery
Brendan Hardin /r/whoooosh
Finally, a video I can 100% relate to.
What is your device?
@@NickKonstantinidis note 8 same problem
@@GogulRavi Really? I was thinking of buying the note 10+
@@NickKonstantinidis bro it depends on the particular phone but not the entire model... Some phones are defective.. not all... I've experienced the same on my OnePlus 3
@@NickKonstantinidis id recommend iphone if you don't wanna take risk..
Do you have a memory card installed in the phone?
My sister had an issue with her Galaxy S3 years ago with it constantly heating up and godawful battery life.
Turns out it was a memory card that was going bad which was causing the phone to constantly try to read it, causing the phone to heat up and destroy her battery life, particularly while the screen was off.
If you're using the same memory card in different phones that might explain why you're having the same issue in multiple phones.
This needs a bump. That would make sense in my testing
Best suggestion I've read yet.
I had this happen to me also or maybe you just got a bad phone. I would pull the sd card out and see if your battery life increases.
Trying this now. Will report back in a couple days
Edit: can confirm, this works AMAZING! Thank you!
I agree. I would test with a new memory card and an old memory card and check the results
I had the same problem with my LG G6. The SD-card was corrupted and was draining my battery from 100%-0% in 3 hours whilst in idle.
Was about to say the same thing. I had massive draining problems on my S6 that fixed its self after removing SD card. Card was working fine in phone and nothing showing in battery monitor . I worked out by accident after pulling it apart cleaning and forgetting to put SD back in.
Yes, that I had a similar problem with my G3. But it was a corrupted file in the SD card.
The S6 has an SD card slot??
@@ultraboonrpg3094 yes it has
had the same issue with my last android phone.
got rid of the SD card and battery life was normal again.
If you happen to solve this problem, then please make a video how to fix this. Cause I have the same issue.
Agreed! Same here and I want a follow up to help fix!
Hi, I had this problem with my Note 5 before and i have found out that Doze is not working in my device for some reason using AccuBattery. I tried to install an root/rootless app called NapTime that enforces doze in minutes rather than in hours, after closer observation the phone stopped heating up and battery life was pretty decent.
TLDR:Samsung's Doze Management is somewhat broken at some devices atm. Install Naptime and Accubattery and observe your results
Someone is mining on your phone
I have a s7 edge and I charge it like 2 times per day because my battery is crap fuck you Samsung
back up data
boot into recovery menu
factory reset
boot 5 minutes
restore data
Spent 2 months on this video and left it at 9:59. Respect
Doesn't matter - they got a sponsor... They would get money anyways
More like, Mistake
@@jadabughaida9425 yea like a few thousand and they still make 10000s a month
And your comment has 69 liked :)
@@joebidenVEVO how do you even know that? there are still people that don't use ad blockers?
You should do a follow up if Samsung contacts you.
agreed
Like MacBook pro core i9
when, not if
That’s probably the goal of the video
Maybe Linus has been dealing with tech to such an extent and for so long that he has developed the ability to be partially battery driven.
So it's actually Linus himself that is draining the battery, so far he only seem to be Samsung compatible though.
Give this man a medal🏅
Someone should ask him if he feels more energetic while carrying the S9+.
Yep let linus buy a new s9+ and use that XD
Nest explanation yet.
Why don't you install "BetterBatteryStats" and monitor what's consuming your battery.
I use an app calls AccuBattery. It helps me to find out that the Audible app drain shit tonne of battery.
I scrolled down to comment this too xd
BBS gathers deeper and wider informations than Accubat
Use accubat for estimating ur battery capacity
BBS is more suitable for investigating idle drain
P.S.
linus, its a paid app on the play store but u can get it free from the official XDA thread
P.S.2
the dev of this app provides a guide about how to use it without a root permission
check this out
better.asksven.org/nonroot-devices/
P.S.3
This below is what u need to look into
Check the 'summary', and see ur device actually goes into 'deep sleep' state or not
And then check the 'partial wakelocks', those are the thing that prevents ur device to go into 'deepsleep'
It also shows which process consumed the most, u can see this in the 'processes'
it doesn't even require root, just a few ADB commands to enable advanced monitoring. Could be some background system process that has hung itself or something
BetterBatteryStats uses root to get more detailed battery info though.
@@RobinJamesEricBond even on Samsung phones with Knox?
*points at watch
"It's been 6 months since then"
U surprised a watch is able to tell the date?
Kalyser .G But pointing a watch to allude to how many days have passed would be like me showing people my toilet after they ask what I ate for lunch.
Both of them might get the point across, but only if you piece together all the information.
It's just a gesture to refer to the passage of time, which is exactly what watches are for. Go analyze something else that actually needs it.
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d Thank you. Due to your comment I have been inspired to stop making one RUclips comment every few months. I have instead used that time to invent. cold fusion.
But yeah, it's all semantics. But then again, why not birth a few chuckles from an otherwise innocuous gesture.
Have you checked if it's the notifications and sync causing this if your phone is constantly checking the cloud for updates on your apps? I disabled all my notifications and shut off auto sync and my battery tends to last a lot longer. If that doesn't work, try microwaving it. 😬
lol
Microwaving it xD
I just microwaved my phone omg it's like so much better ♥
That would have showed up in his battery usage chart...
Woah Dro, didnt expect to see you in the comments of this vid.
TO NOTE- I worked in Cellular Repair for Sprint for a number of years and ive been a hobby tinkering/ Rooting with android since the HTC Hero was a big deal. Heres is my 2 cents- I hope it helps.
1. Are all the devices running on the same carrier? THIS IS A BIG DEAL. Not all data services are equal. Some provide better penetration through buildings than others, and while the device WILL NOT represent usage in the system monitor, it can in fact pull more power to the antenna to maintain reliable connection to services.
The same goes for where you are using the devices. Depending on the building, you may have one device struggle to maintain signal over the other which could lead to the inconsistencies in your tests.
2. How did you set up your current device? Doing a fully data copy off one device to another could cause you issues for a million reasons. Wipe both Samsungs, reset them both to the same, and then run the test. To be fair, running them stock with no added apps or accounts synced wouldnt be a bad idea for a base metric.
3. To ensure youre dealing with a hardware issue, you should run it in safemode. No change in batt life = bad hardware.
4. YOURE NOT ALONE- Ive worked with Samsungs a long time and ive noticed that as you use the devices they slow down and the batteries dont last as long (And this happens much sooner the devices life span than it should.) Ive always suspected that they perhaps arent using high grade materials within the device and that causes them to literally wear out over time. A new device wouldnt have these issues. Its brand new. An older used device would suffer. Poor conductors in the boards or the CPUs would lead to power loss through heat. As you mentioned the device gets warm, battery goes dead. That said, could also be a battery quality of life issue. Hard telling without cracking the phones open and testing the batts at full charge to get true MaH readings and checking the ohms throughout the circuits on the board. Ive never had equipment to really confirm the poor materials thoery, but the metrics I had for exchange rates and battery issues matched the theory. If that was something I still had access to and/or could share I would.
Hey since u have experience in rooting .. is there a way to root Huawei phones without paying ?
@@absinteta6610 off the top of my head Idk. Never messed with their stuff. Checkout XDA Developers website for your model. If there's a way, they will have it. Great community of modders on there.
@@Tree_Cruiser Huawei no longer provides bootloader codes and the only option I could find was blocked by a pay wall .. XDA wasn't able to help either
And everyone was making a big deal with Apple and how they throttle older phones to save battery. This seams like a much worse problem to have. And why are all the solutions around rooting a phone? You’re paying close to a $1000 or more for this phone, and you have to root it? Which voids warranty and most likely increases the risks to malware and hacking. I had a note 3 for a few months and noticed that it was dog after 6 months. Sold it and bought an iPhone 6 Plus. And never looked back. I have iOS beta running on a iPhone X now and couldn’t be happier. I find it hilarious that most Samsung’s ( and Android in general) are NEVER running the up to date OS and usually have to root their phones. 🙄
As far as my knowledge goes, you can still get Bootloader codes from Huawei but not the easy way. You have to contact their support with your IMEI and write them why and what for you want those codes, ie. telling them you want to play around with Root and Custom ROMs. Some people on XDA talked about it and said it usually doesn't take Huawei long to send you your codes.
That Russian dude installed mining software on your phone LOL
Steve What’s the story behind that guy? Why does he want to be a grunt worker for ltt? Can’t he get a better paying job?
MrNosugarcoating lol
Use OnePlus 6. Gets me through the day, with remaining battery till the next day.
A day of mining? Impressive
@parag My 1st production run One+5 still gets me 2 days of battery life. It used to die really fast after their 2nd update. My One+5 use to die really fast after that update. It would drain and die during idle. The majority of battery usage was "idle" and some other background thing(s) that were out of my control. After a few updates (like 5-8 months) later, it was fixed... -_- I think One+ is taking plays out of the Apply Playbook to shorten the life of, or frustrate, their customers' phones to make them buy the new one. The next One+5 only just came out until another update came out that did the same thing, after being fixed for a month or some. Eventually it came to a decent stable position that it's in now, which is probably what the company wants...faster slow-degeneration but not enough that customers will rebel in masses.
S9 AOD: *teleports randomly*
Pixel 2 AOD: haha clock go wiggle
Wiggle wiggle
*Too too too too tooo toooo*
You just need to set it up correctly
clock go brrrrrrrrrrrr
It took me WAY too long than I don’t feel embarrassed to admit that AOD stands for always-on display 🤦♂️smh
This is 100% due to the GPU/CPU frequencies not scaling down properly or going into deep sleep frequencies. This cannot be seen on the android battery manager. Maybe some apps like a browser running a gif/flash is preventing the GPU frequency from scaling down even when the phone is locked.
i wiped my phone, installed nothing and disabled everything i could think of then cleared the cache of everything i used to disable everything and the same battery effect happened until i started paying attention to the charging current
Good idea man
you can see prossess usuage under phone info.
Had the issue on my Galaxy S8. Noticed that often it's hot when I pull it out if my pocket + completely horrible battery life. Turns out the Android system service called Beaming Service is bugged and causes battery drain. I disallowed background activity for that service and my phone is healed :) Oh, and noticed zero negative side effects after disabling that service in the background.
google stealing location data could cause this to i would assume :P
Use the test phone for a few weeks and see how that turns out....
I honestly was shocked he didn't try that before making the video.
He said he was doing these tests for 2 months... You guys were not listening.
@@LordDragonZord no, he said it took 2 months to do this experiment because of billing cycles and shit, where the fuck did you pull that from?
Im telling this to samsung users for years and they still complain and tell me i tell lies xD
Just buy a poco phone F1. 4000mah battery, mine lasts for 3 days normal use and 15+ hours screen-on-time.
So sad that chinese brands show Apple and Samsung how to do it
What the fuck is wrong with you? Watch the god damn video properly. He's been using the phone for ages. He's been talking to Samsung for MONTHS if you didn't listen properly. Holy crap how are people like you allowed on the internet?
Is it possible you've just been incredibly unlucky and got shitty batteries every time? 🤔 If it's really something you're doing, you could tell by swapping your current phone with one of the new ones that you know performed well out of the box and use that as your daily driver and see if it's battery life changes.
Or maybe it's some accessory you're using? A phone charger that is defective? Hell even a power outlet near your bed you use that's messed up and has been secretly sabotaging your phones or something.
Okay whatever, Mr. Fake tutorials
Except for the phone being hot, I've had (and still have) the same issues that he's experiencing with the S3, S7, and S8, so I'm pretty sure the drain is caused by how the phone is used rather than any defects
Seems to only effect his samsung phones though? SO cant be an outlet.
Or a miner using it's Samsung account. But I don't know if that is even possible for a phone.
Make a tutorial about how to download free new batteries
Unfortunately unbox therapy does seem to be the normies tech channel of choice. Not that his stuff is at all bad, or that I have any real problem with his content, I just prefer LTT's vibe
It’s a different way, a lot more simple. LTT would go over the average grandma, but UT would be understood
Well, you need a normie tech channel to get normies interested in tech. LTT is too much for someone who only recently got interested in tech.
@@ajayjanardhan yeah I definitely got into ltt from watching ut
I like the comedy of lew.
*Normies"? Are you 13 years old? You label and define other people based on how much they know about the things YOU happen to like and know about?
Did you try turning it off and on again?
That actually helped with my s9's battery killing problems. Used to get through a solid day and a half or more on full battery slow charge then got down to around 14 hrs. I turned it off then on and it went back to normal?
Does that automatically based on the battery drain
my guess is he installed some chinese spying app and it keep uploading data(burning battery) since he is quite a influence, no point to compare with others phone since they dont have Linus's identity
ha
zxcv qwer But then everyone who has issues has this app? Which app could this be?
Why don't you try with GSAM Battery manager? It's an app that can precisely detect what app is causing drain and for what command
Good idea. Tried that at one stage and it didn't provide any useful information. It doesn't help that it's intermittent.
Giving the App full permissions by rooting the phone could be key to discovery of the drainer
@@michelet.5602 did you even watch the video?
You don't need to root to give the app full battery stat permissions. One ADB command can do it.
You could also try BetterBatteryStats as long as you supply the permission with ADB (not root, just plug it into a computer and run a command once), it should show you wakelocks (which will definitely cause idle battery drain).
Cablemod: we make cables more expensive than your Motherboard and CPU combined.
So true, I thought to give them a go with completly custom lengths and colours so I configured them online....was over 250 euro! Haha no thanks I'll stick to the included ones
Here are some things you can try:
1. clone over your phone to another phone and see if the problem persists. (see if its Hardware or Software)
2. Many phones have some sort of RAM optimizer that loads freequently apps in RAM. Try disabeling that.
3. If nothing helps, try rooting the Phone and install a coustom ROM, to see if its Samsungs software or Samsungs Hardware that is behaving badly.
4. Try slightly undervolting the Phone, ive seen this help sometimes. (Seems to be something in Samsungs Bootloader or Firmware)
[Im from germany so sorry for bad grammar.]
He could also try to factory reset his phone
@@antonvrigborn6666 Well, this doesn't seem like a defect. I think it is some sort of algorithm that tries to optimize battery life or performance. Something about Linus' way of using it causes it to malfunction. Sooo.... Resetting it would lead to the same result.
My way to fix it ruclips.net/video/j5a0jTc9S10/видео.html
Did you try turning it off and then back on again?
@Jeremy Wolf, You must work at tech support!
Damn beat me to it!
What, haha that was classic wasn't it?
No bs that actually used to work on my old phones
Samsung actually recommends daily restart to help with battery health
Hey Linus. Install an app called "AccuBattery." It has ACTUALLY useful data that's not complete garbage like the ones in the battery section of the UI. It shows whats actually draining the battery. It also shows idle drain speed and whether or not your phone goes into the "deep sleep" that it should go to when idling.
A second thing you could do is install wakelock detector lite. It is a nonroot method (that needs some adb magic) to see what apps are preventing your phone from properly idling.
Also, the fact that your phone gets hot is just more evidence that it isn't idling properly and is likely kept awake by some app. Most Android phones go into a "deep sleep" where they use like 0 battery over time and only are awake when something important happens. However, something is clearly preventing this deep sleep from happening. The things that prevent this are called wakelocks which, as the name suggests, lock your phone into an awake mode where it uses significantly more battery. If accubattery, after a few days of it getting to know your phone, says that it is only in deep sleep 60% or less of the screen off time, then somethings up. Install wakelock detector to find out what the something is. Hope this helps!
EDIT:Just compiling some advice from the comments.
1) accubattery isnt too tough to use, in fact, it walks you through the steps and what each statistic means.
2) accubattery also has a "battery health" indicator which shows how much of your battery has degraded. If you drain to 5% and charge to 100% daily, the battery degrades really quick (because of some high voltage voodoo happening in the 80-100% area)
3) wakelock detector lite isn't actually tough to use either - it guides you through the Adb magic
4) better battery stats might work too. It apparently also just needs atb magic, according to the replies of this comment.
5) if you find something fishy, just Google it. For example, "Facebook causing wakelocks" or something might yield some useful results.
AccuBattery also shows battery health, which might also be part of the issue
This is the correct answer.
Greenify might also help
I use Better Battery States but it needs root.
Or Betterbatterystats?
My friend had a similar issue with data and after talking with a Google engineer, he told him he should just make a new account. His specific account somehow triggers massive amounts of data consumption on any phone he's logged into. I'd bet your Google account has something like this.
We're your test phones logged into your Google account?
shoot, really?
He said he logged into the same accounts
3:24 info in the vid btw
We're = We are...
We need linus to see dis persons comment
That's simple: you're just being watched, and hidden app that sends your personal data somewhere consumes your battery very fast. As in your video add - try using glasswire and see what it tells
@J. Doe ok im not gonna lie that was good hahahah
This may actually have some plausibility
Facebook apps always drain my phone batteries so I never install and always disable oem fb app.
@@aguiremedia nope
Tbh this is what I thought.
You need to watercool it
So it can run crysis ?
P&B Games dun dun DUUUNNNNN....
also needs more RGB
Use OnePlus 6. Gets me through the day, with remaining battery till the next day.
Parag D one plus is ass
1)Try changing the sim in your daily driver...
2)Check if the device is going to doze mode.
If it's not going to doze mode then try to find the app which is causing wakelocks.
3)Try backing up and restoring your daily driver s9s backup to the new s9.
If the battery drain drain occurs on the new s9 after the restore then its related to some app you use.
4)Try removing face lock/iris/fingerprint unlock from your daily driver.
5)Try rebooting both the devices to safe mode and see if it's still draining battery.
6)Try using same chargers both the devices. Then see if the problem still persists.
7)Use accubattery or gsam battery manager.
*The Exynos version of s9 had some problems related to battery drain when it was released. Check which version of s9 you are using.*
From screenshots in videos it seems that you always keep NFC and Bluetooth turned on......Try switching them off.
I don't understand why they could not come up with any of these ideas...
@@RubenKemp it's ltt. They say fresync on a Korean monitor doesn't work when they used an Nvidia card
I would also remove bloatware. Personally, I use the note 4. I can remove my battery, which I did, and get a bigger mAh battery, which I did. 11,000 mAh. The newer phones are glued shut. You'd have to use a heat pad just to change yours out. My guess it's your battery went bad. They do have limited charging cycle lives. Could be yours reached it. Another thing that kills batteries faster is charging them over night or letting them fully discharge.
I think it would have been cooler had you guys tested these rooted vs unroot as well.
For point 1, he said he tried no sim and multiple sims and they all had the same results
Modern devices use better power management. Letting your phone charge overnight doesn't really kill the battery anymore, since it technically stops charging when it hits 100%.
Just last week, I had a 6% battery drain an hour on my Pixel 2 Xl after upgrading to Android Pie. After asking around on XDA, this is what I did to fix it. Download and install Accubattery to monitor your mAh usage. Make sure you check your deep sleep percentage. By the sound of things, your phone is running hot when idle, so it's not sleeping like it should be. You can install Wakelock Detector Lite to see which apps are keeping your phone awake. Once you find out what apps are draining your battery, use the System battery manager in Settings to restrict battery usage for those apps. If that doesn't help, then uninstall the app (unless it is necessary to you). If an app isn't keeping your phone awake, then it may be your system settings. Turn off location scanning for wifi and bluetooth (in the GPS section). Turn off Wifi auto-connect to open wifi. Where I live I have pretty weak cellular connection. I opted to disable Mobile data always active in developer options (Go to about phone, and tap the build number 7 times, then enter your device password). While you are here, you can check Running services in developer options and see what you have running. Also, make sure your accounts aren't stuck trying to sync. If they are, cancel the sync and restart it. Depending on how far you are backlogged, this can take a while. If the sync still gets stuck, try removing and re-adding the account that is getting stuck.
After I restricted/uninstalled the misbehaving applications and tuned the device settings, I'm getting great standby time on my Pixel 2 XL. If I close all my apps before putting the phone back in my pocket, according to accubattery, I'm losing 15mA/h or about 0.4%/h. If I charged my phone to 100%, then unplugged it without using it at all, it would take 10 days for the battery to run out. It's pretty good. As someone who primarily uses their phone as a communication device and research tool, I'm a pretty lightweight user. I hope this helps, Linus.
Only comment here that is logical. This is exactly what he should do, as I've done the same in the past on my Galaxy S8+
This is some good advice here! Thank you BetaLeaf!
First quality comment i see here. That's what he should do
Which of course I came here to say almost exactly this this user nailed it there is a fundamental fall in the Android operating system and or app system that permits functions to keep the phone from actually going to sleep fully this one hundred percent is responsible for battery drain
This is precisely why you don't notice any unusual drain when you're actually using the device because all devices use power that fast because they're all about the same thing screen processor Etc
The only differentiation is when you put the phone to sleep that's what would determine your overall battery life because most of the time you're not actually using your phone it's in your pocket so your sleep power usage is why you would see such a dramatic difference in battery life such as with your daily driver when you put the phone to sleep it's not actually going to sleep it's being a naughty child and staying up and doing stuff
This is a core problem with the Android ecosystem it permits apps to keep itself awake and not go to sleep and has very little feedback to you that this is happening and it's also why the phone is hot when you pulled it out of your pocket
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I like how each segway is exactly 10 seconds long, easy to skip.
Linus was probably downloading too much ram.
Yes "ram" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Where can I download more RAM (and for free). I only get 8 GB on my phone. I want the double.
@@fixolder1074 www.downloadmoreram.com
Here you go my friend :D
vgamesx1 we exposed him
The Damn Wall Oao, thank you. Upgraded my Pc, phone and Laptop with a lot of RAM. All for free and now - all it runs faster than ever!
My theory is the location and the signal quality. I have the same issue, when i am at work, where the data signal isn't very good and the wifi is restricted, even though i rarely touch my phone, the battery drains like crazy. when i am ANYWHERE else, gaming like crazy on the phone etc, the battely drains slower! It drains faster in my pocket at work than while i am gaming at home. So my theory is that the network quality in your area probably makes your phone try to compensate by boosting it's signal, that's why they get hot and drain fast.
That's not a theory, that's just fact. There are 2 main reasons why poor reception results in worse battery life:
1. Depending on the type of radio, it will try to amplify the signal by using more power. I know _some_ Wifi chipsets can do this, but I'm not sure if other radio devices (like GSM, CDMA, Bluetooth, etc) do.
2. For every lost packet you send or receive due to poor signal quality, it has to be re-transferred. As long as you can still remain connected, basically the worse your signal quality is, the more packets that need to be re-transferred. Not only is this very taxing on your battery, but it hurts network latency and bandwidth, too.
That's a cool theory, but I'm not sure how it would work. Is there really that much a phone can do in areas of low signal-quality to boost itself? Is signal really that impactful to battery life? Wouldn't it use more battery when there is more signal because it has more resources to use? I like the idea, but these are the questions that came to mind for me.
but this would ALL the other phone Linus had drain equaly ad fast (but good point)
Ps: i ones got throu three days on one battery on my s9 (lol)
I had very similar results a few years back when I worked in a building with poor data connection and no wife. Phone ran hot all day. Got to the point where I just shut it off while at work.
Yep that's exactly whats happening, the less signal you get the harder your cellphone is gonna work, aka battery drain
"And we'll tell you about it right after a message from our sponsor, Samsung..."
We need a follow-up video. This is the reason I stopped buying phones from Samsung and I want to know if this problem persists in the latest models.
Video length 9.59
I guess linus doesn't care about the ad revenue anymore
Lol. Yeah, there's no fluff content, except 2 seconds extra may have helped financially
Why is that?
Not when you have cablemod, with their new rgb backplates for your SSDs and graphics cards to improve the look of your build
Sponsors got his back
@@酗 oh I see! Thanks!
You should compare how quickly it charges from 0 to 100 compared to the the new one If your phone charges way quicker then the new one your batteries capacity is most likely compromised from either too many recharge cycles or the battery was no good from the factory.
brett20000000009 He did say they consume the same amount when used heavily. My money is on the Facebook app. Get Facebook Lite :P
I found facebook eating my battery. After getting rid of it, battery life doubled.
brett20000000009 I'm going through the same thing as Linus. And my phone still takes about the same amount of time to charge as when I first got it
brett20000000009 bs
the fact that linus takes it out of his pocket hot indicates that the battery has its energy storage parameters in place
Linus please read this. This happened to me and I managed to find the reason and I also got the phone replaced by Samsung. This is for my s8 btw but i think it applies. The overheating when idle started when I enrolled in the Samsung Beta program. After the first update I got from the beta program; the problem has started. The problem did not go away even after a factory reset so it was 100% a software problem. Maybe for you it is not a beta program patch but just a normal patch. Sometimes the patches do make this problem happen as I read so many time about it online that people's phones start having this problem after a patch. Please read this and consider replacing the phone with Samsung. They shipped a new S8 to me after this. Thanks for reading this.
WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU IN? THEY DON'T REPLACE PHONE IN OUR COUNTRY
Not a specific phone issue otherwise it wouldn't happen on the Note 9 and S8 as well.
This is most likely a wakelock issue. There's some apps that help you spot the issue. I think it's called wakelock detector.
Google backup was draining my battery. After, I switched to Samsung only backup, I haven't had any issues.
This is why i disable system updates after 2 or 3 updates in developer options
This is probably the difference of the Snapdragon and Exynos variants of the phone. I have the snapdragon variant of the Note 8 and I have great battery life.
I like the causal music in the background while Linus rants on constantly
9:59 minutes long.
*Damnit! Who edited this video?!*
Dennis probably
on pc its 9:58
I did.
0:00 is still a second of the video, I think that is how he got 59, pc doesn't count it, afaik android doesn't either.
Why is everybody talking about 9:59 and demonetisation?
@@fazekasroland2968 yes, Android does.
9:58 Mission failed, we'll get the revenue next video.
he has a sponsor anyways
Young Dabber He has a sponsor in the actual video, your use of adblocker is irrelevant
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming he has sponsor in video your adblocker is nothing
Linus Tech Tips asking for tech tips
I thought the same. When online forums don't work for you (like everyone else.) ask your community for tips for your personal problems.
Shoddy
here is the tip of the day, its called a SHORT probably a bad solder point
He already knows the answers. He will tell you back soon with another video.
3:25 Does Linus use Apple music?😂
Yes
Ha ha
Oh, that's simple - your phone is probably cursed by a witch. To test it see if it weighs as much as a duck.
It sunk, so weighs more than a duck, however it's still on. witch... witch... witch
Weighs, not weights.
Burn it at the stake!
Seriously, can't believe Linus didn't know about the duck test. If it does turn out to be cursed by a witch, just charge it nine times on a witches' sabbath using a consecrated phone charger. Everyone knows this stuff, Linus...
Don't you hate it when that happens? the duck test is really helpful for this kind of things though.
100% Getting mined. Couple of key points here.
1. You say battery life is fine when using the phone. But once Idle the whole thing goes to hell. Poorly designed versions of this program will use too much juice when running but they are all designed to be turned off when the phone is in use to minimize any performance issues so the owner wont know.
2. This is only happening on Samsung Devices indicating that someone has your Samsung Info or a Backdoor into that account.
3. The sporadic timing of when your Galaxy devices start to act like this indicates a human factor on the other end finally noticing that you have moved to a new device.
Ive done this before on my phones because i was bored and it is so someone hacking you to mine.
This was my first thought.
Bear Jeffries had the same idea
This makes sense. Is there any way to know if you're being "hacked to mine"? Would a factory reset solve the problem? I guess it would represent itself if, as you say, they have a backdoor in a Linus' account.
My initial thoughts too when the comparison for Linus' phone came up with the test one. Easy way to find out would be wiping the phone and seeing if it still happens without any connection to him I guess.
This was my first thought
Is your wearable ( watch ) linked and constantly communicating with your Samsung s9
I had similar issue, Linus should check this
i thought it could be a bluetooth/looped (attempted) pairing issue with a nearby device
You know what that might be a good point. Linus has been known to use smartwatches a lot. Then again the time he left his personal phone to do the test it would not hava had an impact, as he would not be close to the phone for all that time.
Lmao SPYWARE. You're obviously a high value target for industrial espionage.
this is probably it right here. Phones that are constantly recording/streaming audio will drain the s#it out of the battery.
@@Gogglesofkrome theyre not doing that, they have offline detection when you say ok Google for example and only starts sending that after you say ok google
But even then, Android doesn't let apps use your microphone or even be online while the screen is off. So I'm not sure
@@lucasmzreal you're naive if you think android's permissions settings are really actually effective.
@@lucasmzreal That's what they claim but they're always listening. They respond to the "OK Google" phrase and just happen to hear everything else you said before and after.
I have 2 suggestions,
1. Backup and factory reset your personal S9+. If battery life improves, then it was a software problem.
2. Replace the battery. If battery life improves, then it was a battery problem.
If battery life doesn't improve after these, it means that the problem is hardware based i.e internal components are consuming more power.
I know these are not solutions which are viable in real life, but will help us identify the core problem.
have A3 first generation samsung and this problem has it at the very beginning. I still use this phone and there are days when there are about days when the battery runs out of nothing. I have and friends who use samsung and have no problems for years I have and those who have the same problem as me, using different samsung models J7, S7, etc. According to me the problem is factory and can not be removed at least I did not succeed for 4 years.
@@Just_Joro true, I had a Samsung phone many years back and both battery life and performance took a serious hit after like 9 months. I have 4 other friend with Samsung phones and one of them is facing similar issues. The problem with Samsung is quality control, they struggle with making every unit reliable.
He literally said at the beginning of the video this has been an ongoing problem for years, with almost every generation of Samsung phones. As one of the biggest tech RUclipsrs, you don't think he would've tried to factory reset any of his phones at least once? Honestly it seems like no one actually listens to anything he says in these videos wtf...
This is not correct. Factory reset doesn't change the core OS phone software only user profile information and apps. Software updates are not uninstalled. If a software update did this there is no way to fix the phone with out unlocking the bootloader(which you can't in the US).
its a user problem, he leaves his phone on his charger for hours when its at 100% while hes sleeping. that will kill any battery no matter the brand.
Did you set up the device manually instead of restoring from a backup. Try manually resetting the device and apps one by one. That's what solved the issue for me on My s8
Everyone please like this
Linus, how good are you with the linux terminal? I use htop from an adb window to see what's eating my battery when the phone screen goes to sleep. For your situation, I've tried to find a NON-ROOT way to run htop inside of adb shell ( so you can see what your apps are doing in real-time as you are using them) on stock firmware, but so far the best I can come up with is installing htop inside of an app called termux. If you use multi window, this might be an acceptable way to see what your apps are doing while you use them. It won't however tell you anything about what is going on when the screen is off (for obvious reasons). If you were to root your phone, I could tell you how to get this up and running from adb, so you can see what your phone is up to when you aren't looking.
I too have had apps heat my phone up as soon as I turn the screen off. I've used htop to catch them in the act. One of the most annoying was the weather underground app. Sometimes when I would go to the home screen from the app or turn off the screen, it would hang and consume as much cpu as its process had access to. I had to kill the process to make it stop. (htop can do this, but I tend to use the command-line to do it when I'm connected to my laptop. >>kill $(pgrep wunderground)
Do you have more tips on this? Would really want to try it. My S8 is really bad when it comes to battery life
I'm quite surprised Linus hasn't tried this...
@Daniel Gomes: You could try uninstalling, or if there is no uninstall, then disabling all the apps you don't use. They will still be taking up space on your phone, but at least they would no longer be running. That said, some apps won't even let you disable them.
Unfortunately the best way to improve the situation is still to root your phone and delete any apps you don't use, or install a custom firmware that has already done this for you. Last I checked, rooting your phone means you lose android pay, Samsung pay and your playstore certification (which means vendors like netflix will refuse to show you their apps or let them run on your phone - the apps will literally disappear from your playstore). There are ways to combat this, but its a game of cat and mouse with Google, Samsung, and Qualcomm (and also your carrier, if you are unlucky enough to have Verizon or AT&T) vs the end user.
When I briefly had the S8, I got rid of it because there was no way to root it and no-one had a custom firmware for it. Looking at XDA right now, it seems you can now root it. ( forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/samsung-galaxy-s8-root-snapdragon-t3659305 ). You will have to look and see if anyone has made a custom ROM for it as well. Do your homework and you could end up with a better all around phone than what you have now ***IF*** you are ok with the loss of the various apps that dislike root and/or custom firmware, are willing to void your warranty, and accept the risk of bricking your phone to get there.
If you decide to go forward, __BE_VERY_CAREFUL__. Read everything twice, read up on the same thing from multiple people, and watch many videos before you even think about proceeding. (unless you have $300-$1000 to burn on a new phone)
So far I've been pretty lucky. I've not yet gotten myself into any problems that I couldn't solve - no expensive paper weights on my desk.
That's too much work for a 700$ phone. Shouldn't the OS handle issues like these? Well, might as well switch to the iphone, iOS has total control on what apps run in the background without any fancy 3rd party tools and hours of investigating what causes batt. drain.
@@joshhefner7589 problem is I'm from Europe so I have the exynos processor. Harder to root harder for new firmware everything. So I guess I'm stuck here but thanks!
Just a couple of minutes into this video, I noticed my S7 Edge starting to get a little warm, doing nothing but showing the always-on display. What a coincidence
Have you tried ruling out the software? Erase both devices and set them up as blank units. Then see if there is any difference between the two Samsungs?!
It is there daily drivers
you know that there is something called backups
@@crazytom2k2 oh, didnt think of that, good call
Now it's 3 months later, have they replied you or got any reasonable explanation?
I've left a comment string which had since gained some attention. It's been quite successful in determining a cause. I found that chrome seems to be causing it. Other people have uninstalled it and have seen a drastic improvement. You could try this :).
Alternatively some people have found that turning Google location services off also solves the problem. It may be worth trying this too if the chome thing doesn't work.
Hope this helps.
I switched to Firefox, which is similar.
Tom Hubbard thanks will try that, I really appreciate your reply!
@@Samiismyname np. Hope it works :)
Did it work?
@@Samiismyname did it work?
Its probs tunnel bear
Hahahahahahhah deadddd
Or maybe all that RGB
LTT dropped tunnel bear months ago. Their on PIA now.
TheNick540 *They're.
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I dont know whether its reply is tooooo delayed or what , but as a samsung user myself and experimented with there systems here is my explaination:-
1) the inbuilt battery drain monitor is a crap at best.Using third party apps to monitor the usage is a must.
2)Samsung comes with with a ton bloatware that after some that; i.e when it has collected enough data start to send it to samsung when the device idles.(and best part samsung battery monitor never shows that).
3)Get rid of the bloatware specially the samsung galaxy store.
4)disable apps that you dont use often from running in the background ( u can either root ur phone and adb commands or install third party apps for that.)
5)Same must be done for Notifications that u dont need
6)use services like "skit" to forcestop samsung services that runs in the background all the time(really dont disable the crucial ones if u dont know what ur doing then skip this step.)
7)Dont keep your apps open in your ram if you are not going to use them for a while ( i mean 30 min atleast) the reason being the system needs to spend active battery to keep it active in system ram.(Its about cache - google it if u need more info)
8)Opt out of all "customer experience programs both from google and other third parties , and dont forget to turn off samsung sync for thats a battery hog.
9)Block location access from all apps that request that permission ( it could be monitored by using third party apps , some are open source too😊).............and enable them every time you use it and then again disable it.For many apps continuously pings or just records location the gyro for reasons ---- idk. ( but that $*cks for your battery).
10)THIS CAN BE APPLIED TO ANY DEVICE RUNNING ANDRIOD 7 PLUS BUT I CANT SAY MUCH FOR I AM FOR MOST PART A SAMSUNG USER.
AFTER HEAVY OPTIMIZATION MY DEVICE SOMETIMES LAST 3 DAYS ; THOSE MAY BE OVER KILL AND YOU YOU ALL FIND A SWEET SPOT.
Last request of mine if you took time to read this then drop a like and make linus & other of my fellow andriod users , see this for it may help him out.
Thanx a lot for your time!!!!!!!!
My theory is that the CPU is not lowering it's clocks and voltages when idling. This would explain the large difference in battery life between it and the other S9. Also, it'd be the reason battery stats isn't reporting an app that is consuming all the power. It'd be interesting to make a backup of the stock ROM and flash it on to the DBrand S9 to see if it's battery life performance takes a hit. If not then it's more than likely a hardware issue on the personal phone. If it does then it's probably a kernel issue with that ROM. Why this happens would still be a mystery but it could point to TouchWiz becoming corrupted over time.
It is called planned obsolescence.
Are you dumb? It's a nearly brand new phone and he said he's having the same problems with the note 9
btw not OP i meant to @I Like Planes
Its samsung my tab 3 deos the same thing
I feel like my iPhone has does that to and the only way to stop it draining power is to cool it down like putting it in front of a fan.
But did you try turning it off and on??🙄
go back to paky you indian
Must work for the tech support department 😂
Bobs
xD
I'm sure he did
Looks you really work hard to make this video i appreciate it ..
to me it just looks like it took long, not as if there was much effort in it not to say its not a good video.
Heres how to fix it ruclips.net/video/j5a0jTc9S10/видео.html
I 100% relate. Every time I get a phone, samsung, apple, oneplus. I always get the faulty broken ones literally EVERY TIME 😒😭
happened the same for me for every phone especially samsung phones, until I switched to iphone 3 years back. not a single issue since then
look up how to install the wakelock detector on a non rooted phone
and it will tell you what's keeping the phone awake instead of doing all of that
That's what I thought exactly - strange how it wasn't the first thing he tried...
Battery drain while screen is off is classic wakelock issue
Also thought about wakelock detector. I use it to detect battery drain
simple battery is dead
That's one option especially for old phone battery, but sometimes replacing the battery doesn't help, which happened to me with my previous phone.
My current phone can go several days without the need to charge if I don't use it heavily. If I don't use it much at all it might as well last a week.
I suspect a cytomining bloat in form of some app or cookies saved from your chrome browser got installed/saved and runs when your phone is idle and the app/cookie syncs across all your samsung devices through Samsung back up and sync process...
...
As hypothetical as it may sound, it's just a theory!!
...a game theory!
He also signed into his account on the new test phone
I actually think so too. Here's a thumbs up.
@@tjsh02 maybe the script for the program is made to wait a certain amount of time before running
That doesn't make sense. Firstly, cookies aren't synced between devices. Secondly, cookies are a means to store data and are not interpreted in browsers.
A rogue app should have been spotted during the preparation process. Or at the very least installed to the test phones...
An easier explanation is that Linus has a bum battery on his S9+
I personally think it might be a issue with mining malwares, it would drain your device much faster since its mining on your particular mobile, and if its mining it explains why your device is getting hot without you using it, because mining softwares puts your phone's CPU and GPU on a constant load. Or simply try factory resets, to check if any unnoticeable apps are installed without you knowing it.
Yeah, something running in the background definitely seems likely to me.
Dude android does not have malware's for God sake even I had these issues before the ans for it is rooting the phone and installing tweaks which are on xda or custom rom or underclock the device to see any change
Uninstall all Facebook apps.
+SKILL BRO you think after the decade or so we've had Android phones that people haven't figured out how to make malware for them?
They absolutely can get malware or viruses.
If you watch the video, there are plenty of Galaxy users not encountering this problem, which likely means it's either a QC problem, or something like Malware/a badly designed app.
Additionally, I use Facebook pretty frequently, and do not have these issues, seems unlikely to be the cause to me.
Try the Exynos version, you'll be even more disappointed.
Yep I think the chip overheating caused me to kill my A50 by doing something I was told not to do while looking up advice about the problem.
Though I wonder if the nightmare with condensation started when I was putting it in front of a very cool air conditioner. (@64 deg Farenheit.) When it started overheating constantly.
I do think the chip overheating causes a cascade of problems with other components.
My exynos S9 literally gets 3 hours SOT and the SOC is constantly at around 50-60°C 👀
I mean it is nearly 3 years old on the og battery, with a custom ROM lmao
exynos wasn't as bad on s9, it was actually better on s8, but it got worse on s10 and s20 compared to snapdragon
I had EXACTLY this issue with one of my Samsung phones, it got so bad that the phone was draining faster than it charged , so the phone drained even when on the charger, I tried several solutions, one that worked for a while was to do a factory reset and re-install all the apps (made easy because the apps installed list was saved to google backup).
The final solution that fixed it ( and it's been absolutely fine since then) was to clear the cache for google services and uninstall it then re-install.
The phones been absolutely fine since then.
Every time someone has weird issue with Android phone, I recommend disabling Google Play Services and Google Play Store for a while (I think you need to unset it first under "Device administrators", but root is NOT required). I remember when Google Play Services update (and it updates silently in background without giving you any control over it) caused some phones with custom ROM to crash the OS when the charger was plugged. Then again, it may be a different issue (e.g. hardware one).
Settings > Apps > Google Play Services > Battery > Allow Background Activity > Off. Yes, this will obviously disrupt updates and other things as well (I haven't extensively tried it yet), but it's just an idea to see if maybe that's the service causing the issue. His daily driver is going to consume more battery life because he most likely did not go through and empty the cache of every single app that he uses. I'm sure if he did that on both phones, the battery consumption may be similar (but still not exact).
IT IS OS SPYWARE. I moved to lineage os and my battery life improved dramatically.
Someone is using his phone to mine. Something to do with his samsung account info so everytime he sets up a Galaxy they start the process again. Common Place
? I dont even get how people mine with their phone. It to small of a device no air circulation or anything
You just need to download more battery. 😬😬
But it costs like $20 unless you want to pirate more battery from some sketchy russian website on the dark web
You thought downloading RAM is cool? Now you can download *B A T T E R Y !*
he needs to download more cooling too
Why not just download a better phone while you're at it?
@@squaller9254 why not water cool it?
My S10+ heated up after five minutes when i first got it and the problem persists...
EDIT: Forgot this comment exists, yeah this doesn't happen anymore :p
Samsung sucks
My s10e isnt that hit ever unless I play a game
My s10+ fine after almost a year, only gets hot when gaming for 3-4 hours straight
My s10+ and s9+ get hot after 3 hours of Pokemon go.
My s10 had the same problem until android 10
I'm looking forward to getting a follow up.
Me too
Good luck
same
Same! waiting a follow up!
Disable the built in virus scanner! It is powered by McAffee and we all know that it sucks.. It helped on my Note9 and on my girlfriend's S9. You can check it under Settings>Device Maintenance>Device Security. If you already enabled it then you can disable it under Settings>Apps>Show system apps>Device Security>Storage>Clear Data. Hope this helps!
Major issue with your testing method... New phone has seen zero usage. Just leaving it there too run idled means nothing. Your daily phone has certain services running in the background from the apps the system knows you use often. The new phone is just there. I have a Note 8, and even on my heaviest usage days, I'll end with between 40-50% battery. I've taken the time to go app by app to disable background usage on those apps that have zero reason to run in background. I also disable background data usage on apps I felt really didn't need to function at all unless I'm actively using it (like shopping apps such as Home Dept, Macy's, etc). The fact you have Facebook services running already tells me why yours runs hot and dies it early. Facebook has always been a battery killer. Disable it completely (uninstall it even), and then see how battery life is.
I have noticed it too Facebook drains battery fast.
But they used the two different daily drivers, at this point it's the way linus uses his phone
Facebook's Messenger app is even worse.
Wonder why Facebook drains so much battery. Maybe because its a CIA controlled app spying on everything you do :P Making a voice map of you and your close contacts.
@@melkorrealmz4526 telemetry updates being constant is definitely one of the issues.
I had the same problem and solved it for me at least. If I have google backups activated on my samsung phones it will drain about 7% per hour in idle. Turn it off and it works perfectly fine.
I tried turning it off now, if that works you are the best!
where is google back ups located at?
they mean goto setting and the goto accounts then google and turn off sync
This! pin it. I did it with my S8 and it worked a treat although I have a v30 now awesome battery life.
Just turned it off, I'll report back later.
I've owned a Galaxy S7 for about 2 years now, and shortly after I got it, I occasionally noticed that it was running very hot in my pocket. I could clear this up by rebooting the phone, but it seemed like a fairly messy way to deal with it. To get a handle on what was wrong, I turned to an app called SystemPanel, which allowed me to see the usage of each PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE processes, as well each core of the CPU in graphic format.
My S7 is the Canadian edition with the octa-core Exynos SOC with 4 low-power cores and 4 high-power cores. When the phone was running hot for no reason, I discovered that one of the high-power cores was pushed to 100% at full clock speed. If left running like this with the screen on, the phone would get so hot I couldn't really touch the back of it. Not surprisingly, battery consumption was conspicuous.
According to SystemPanel, none of the processes it was able to show me were responsible for the high CPU usage. The culprit was likely a protected O/S process, which after Android 6.0 could not be examined by apps such as SystemPanel, and so I had no way to know which one it was.
After a bit of experimentation, I found that this undesirable state occurred most often when my phone automatically switched away from WiFi after I left the house. Because it seemed to be related to connectivity, I discovered that putting the phone into Airplane Mode for a second or two would stop the runaway process. I also determined that turning off WiFi before I left the house would ensure the condition wouldn't return.
I'd always thought this was my fault, because I'd rooted the phone and I used a custom kernel in order to set SELinux mode to permissive (so that I could run Viper4Android). Based on what you presented in this video, it might be an issue with the Samsung fork of Android.
This isn't to say that this very problem is the one you are seeing. Try manually shutting down WiFi before you move out of range of WiFi to see if that mysteriously clears up the hot-phone issue for you. If the phone does start to run hot, try Airplane Mode for a second or two. Also, get an app like SystemPanel to see if the heat issue is a core running at max constantly.
It's obvious, Linus... The FBI has your phone tapped ._.
Try factory resetting and don't restore your apps from Google or Samsung backups, do a fresh install of every app from the play store.
Alex Lerman Yeah that’s what I was going to suggest. I don’t use Android but I know Microsoft syncs some weird random ass stuff when logged into Windows 10 with a Microsoft account on different computers. I mean, cursor size and color? Really?
The video length is 9:59
Almost got that ad money bois
9:58 for me o.o
Feels bad man
thats not actually how that works the 10 minute myth stems from being able to post an extra add at the 10 min mark not you magically gain 25% more revenue if its 10 minutes
@@crowchillingpark I am watching and it's 9:59
9:58 the mystery?????
One possible reason : They've put a different chipset inside your phone. Often manufacturers have to swap to a different chip if they run out of parts. What I would do is slip a current meter at the battery contacts and do some real measurements. It's the only way to be sure.
I have this problem too, I thought it was all in my head because when I used my phone the battery seemed to go down normally.
I would love it if we find a cause and a solution for this problem.
I also have the same problem with my LG phone. There's some apps that cause that, so I need to find which app is that and force stop it after using it. It's really weird since the same app doesn't cause the same battery issue on other phones.
Im telling what linues says to samsung users for years and they still complain and tell me i tell lies xD
Just buy a poco phone F1. 4000mah battery, mine lasts for 3 days normal use and 15+ hours screen-on-time.
So sad that chinese brands show Apple and Samsung how to do it
Try to reformat your phone, I think it could be a virus that mine crypto
They can’t fix it because Linus dropped it.
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Goddammit samsung.
Several people are typing...
@@namonaite God fucking dammit samsung
@@playbad8683 you don't say... Millions of ppl are typing
Hey Linus, I am here with a very detailed description of (probably just part of) your problem, with the same experience, but with no solution even after calling up official Samsung repair shops. I have my Galaxy S7 since they appeared in stores and when the phone was new, I was constantly getting (with my damn heavy battery usage) 6+ and even 7+ hours of SoT. Time went by and this number decreased to 6+ and to 5+ to rougly 5 hours a day and I though, well the battery is older after a year and so and also I have more apps installed and so on. I decided to flash a custom ROM because my friends also got S7s by then and we were tinkering with them and sharing our opinions. We found out, that when the phone is brand new, it charges the battery to 4.35V, which is ridiculous for a Li-Ion battery, so one of my friends decided to charge to only 90% (around 4.2x V) to preserve the battery for a longer time without changing it, I always thought I will buy a new battery after 2 years for 15$ and change it myself... (oh boy). After some time went by my phone really started to last less and less and I even have to charge three times a day sometimes with barely 2 hours of SoT on one charge. I decided to open up the phone and change the battery myself, because I thought, looking at my 2.5 years old phone with 2.5 old years battery that it would fix it. Especially since I pumped it up all the way to 4.35V (oh boy, my sweet summer child) every single day. AND GUESS WHAT, after I changed my battery, I still got BARELY over 2 hours of SoT. And then I really started looking into it. When I charged the new battery (it is 100% original Samsung battery for S7, wait for it), it ONLY charged to 100% to 4.23V... wait 4.23V??? That sounds like 10% loss of battery (because of my friends measurement when he was charging to 90%), but it was much more than that as I later realized. I contacted the most famous custom ROM maker for Samsung Galaxy S7 and most of the new Samsung flagships in general Tkkg1994 and asked him what happened with the voltage. He said that Samsung lowered the voltage in the kernel of the phone after the Note 7 incident so other phones don't blow up with it. I thought that sounds like some reason, but it was true only by a little bit. I opened the kernel files and started looking into the real differences Samsung has programed into the phone and I found something which makes sense but is also really frustrating. In arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos8890-herolte_battery.dtsi there is written, that after 200, 250, 300 and 1000 full discharge cycles of the battery the voltage lowers and lowers from 4.35V to 4.325V to 4.3125V to 4.2875V to 4.2375V to safely charge even an older battery, before Note 7 there was the lowering only twice on 300 and 500 cycles from 4.3625V (notice how the voltage is a little higher berofe the Note 7) to 4.325V to 4.2875V. Yeah that makes sense, the chemicals in the battery aren't as good forever. BUT, guess what happened after I changed the battery. IT STILL CHARGED ONLY TO 4.23V so the battery change was almost useless. I started to dig into why it still charges only to 4.23V. There is a file called battery_cycle in root/sys/class/power_supply/battery/ on the phone, which says 1175 for me. That means my phone has gone through 1175 full cycles (which is damn lot only after 2.5 years), but the number is correct as I was charging multiple times a day for the last few months. BUT WHY DIDN'T IT RESET AFTER I CHANGED THE BATTERY IN THE PHONE? like cmon? I tried to reset the file to 0 but after a reboot, the number came back. I flashed a clean ROM, completely wiped cache, dalvik, data, system and internal storage so many times, I tried factory reset, I spent HOURS talking to officials at Samsung repair shops about what exactly are they doing with the phone after they officially change the battery. They told me they do nothing more than I do. When I checked the battery health and its remaining capacity from the original 3000mAh (which the phone thinks the battery still has remaining, because he apparently didn't notice the battery change at all) it said 58%. 58%!!! That's 1740mAh, I don't want any damn iPhone battery capacities in my phone. This file is also located in root/sys/class/power_supply/battery/ and it is called fg_asoc. Please tell me there is a way to reset the cycle number without changing the motherboard and please fellow Samsung phone users, tell me some of you have changed the battery in Samsung repair shops or at home yourself and send me your values to elaborate this issue together. I hope that Linus can reach out to Samsung and help us all to solve these battery issues. Thank you.
I gotta say, that's incredibly relate-able. Something working perfectly fine for everyone else and should be working fine for you but for some inconceivable reason it just won't.
Uninstall the Facebook app. Use the Lite version instead. Facebook bypasses the android battery monitoring by using different processes, somehow....
any proof?
I don't think Linus uses Facebook. He has messenger but not Facebook. He talked about it on the WAN show before.
Its messenger too. It's crazy how much any fb made apps kill the battery. Try the app swift as a fb and messenger shell
But everyone who has that app and this issue isn't really heard of
I can vouch for this, I had Facebook messenger installed on my s4 and it absolutely screwed the battery whereas on the oppo r9s it had little to no effect
"Why is it every time I pull this thing out of my pocket, its, hot?"
Its not the phone, its the owner 😉
Good one
I had the problem when I got my Samsung s8, but it seems to have disappeared after the oreo update.
Actually no you have that problem with aluminium phones but not backglass phones thats not normal at all
Your phone is being used for crypto-currency mining or something similar while you’re not using it
That was my first thought when he said it was hot after he had it off and in his pants. I am very surprised that this is the only comment after scrolling through pages of them.
I have an S6 Edge+ in battery saving mode, so only certain apps can run when the screen is off, and I usually get up at 5am for work, I use Bluetooth for a speaker nearly all day but by 12 midday it's sub 10%
I used to have an LG G5, and it'd be at 40-50% midday. Plus whenever I get it out of my pocket/bag it's warm. Also, removing facebook extends my battery life by 5+ hours
A number of free apps are known to use it, especially a lot of children's games. I am curious what might happen if he installed his app list on the new phone. I am not saying he has a bunch of free kids games on him phone XD but perhaps something else. In fact that makes a lot of sense if it has carried over on every Samsung phone he has used. Though my Note 8 Monitors app battery usage, maybe they found away around that but it is something standing in the way of that theory.
This needs to be the top comment because I’d be willing to bet money this is what’s happening. Samsung doesn’t want people knowing their phones aren’t safe so they aren’t gonna help him.
Perhaps, but he did mention they duplicated apps between phone setup and that didn't seem to change the performance. The only thing I can think of is crypto-currency mining malware. I'm wondering if that somehow got moved over to his new Note 9 via backup or it's a specific site he visited (again) on his phone that infected him.
did you tried to install another os in your phone to try how much battery it drains?
what is the point of rooting and installing another android version, if the phone is pretty much brand new? it should come OK right out of the box, specially when it costs 1000+
@@robersniper you don't need to root
You should download an app that counts and monitors your wakelocks. Some apps can identify which app stops your phone from going to sleepmode. And to be honest, you should really consider rooting your phone for this.
You can only monitor wakelocks through a rooted phone. And although i root my phones, i agree with linus. You shouldnt have to root it.
Sounds like one. I remember Note 1 I had, it would randomly kick kernel wakelock and run the processor at 200Hz all the time; about 10% battery drain per hour. A restart would help, until new random wakelock later. I remember running a monitor to identify a wakelock. I found forum posts online related to the same issue, my phone was not the only one. But some people reported no drain - for them it was working perfectly fine. People would report one or the other app to be the culprit, but uninstall wouldn't fix the problem for others. Really sounded like it is randomly activated on each affected phone. Finally, after about 1 year, the update was released and the problem vanished. As well as my wish to own another Samsung.
That's not true, my friend. You can use Wakelock Detector Lite. It is for non-rooted phones. You do need to use adb to grant permission to the battery usage, but WLD makes it easy, letting you use a chrome extension to give this permission in a few clicks.
@@betaleaf7719 Hey, I have an S9, i'll try this app, thx
This app is a way to go if phone is not rooted. But there are other like this app and permissions are granted whit adb.
Actually if you root ur phone, u can use linux deploy to install a linux destro. Then run htop as root. That should give a clear idea of which app ( process ) is using the most of cpu. The problem is android uses Java to track cpu usage in phones. So if its not java, rather a program hogging the cpu, android wont know but htop as root will.
Give this comment to employees good with linux
Im a custom ROM developer from India
Why even bother rooting, install Termux and then apt-get htop
Are you working on GSI treble roms?
plz upvote
It would need root to see all the processes. I just tried it and the only processes it shows are htop and one other thing.
I see every process. If not try running top using terminal emulator. I know Htop had issues due to selinux, but termux team patched that.
With battery life that bad, it seems like something is constantly keeping the CPU awake. The fact that it's hot in the pocket also indicates that.
I used to have this problem with facebook years ago my phone would run hot and die fast after many hours of troubleshooting I came to the conclusion it was the facebook app cleared the facebook cache and it worked fine for a few days and started again until the cache was cleared again in the end I just uninstalled it and it was fine ever since but this was several years ago and I no longer have this issue Im using the Pixel 2 XL now and it easily lasts me the day even with heavy usage
I don't know if they manage to mine it using his phone for crypto currency reasons. I am not sure if that is even possible with a phone.
Samsung battery saver mode usually keeps background apps off pretty sure Linus has tired that so I doubt its a factor.
Yup, the facebook app is cancer, so is the facebook messenger app. My wife and I have Note 8's. Both are stock firmware(and up to date). Mine lasts all day without issues and has lots of battery left, even with heavy use. Hers won't last more than 8 hours with heavy use. The only real difference is facebook. I uninstalled and disabled it, and then disabled all permissions for it to make sure it stays dead. Her phone is hot just sitting, mine is not.
At the end of the day after 3 years my S7 ends up at 10 percent,something like that
They also blew up lmao.
@@ICCUWANSIUT Note 7
My s7 edge had bad battery
with my galaxy s8 sometimes my phone stays cool and has enough battery to get me through a day and some days I need a charge by noon and my phone gets REALLY hot
Always close all the apps in the background before putting your phone in the pocket.
same issue here
Aight Linus, so long time Samsung user and Samsung retail rep, I worked at one of those Samsung booths in Best Buy for 2 years. I have 3 suggestions for you that will probably solve the issue. 1. Reset the cache partition. Don't ask me why but sometimes this solves all the problems and is honestly super easy to do. 2. Go to at best buy with a Samsung booth that has reps that actually have a laptop with Samsung official software and tell them to re-flash the software. This will ultimately solve most software issues and doesn't completely wipe out your phone like you doing a hard reset at home. 3. It HAS to be a hardware issue and you should get the battery replaced by Samsung. I at one time or another owned an S6, S7, S8+ and now Note8. The ONLY model that ever got hot for me was the S6 and S7 which has drastically changed thanks to the Note 7.
Hope this helps.
Not hardware, not yet anyways, this is a software issue, something he's installed is fucking around too much in the background
Looks like software, given it happens to him no matter what Samsung phone he uses.
Lithium Ion batteries are prone to losing battery life if they are constantly on charge, it can also cause a 'gassing'' effect which puffs up the battery. As a mobile phone technician I've seen this commonly on iPhones but it does happen with other consumers of Lithium Ion batteries. I would dare say it's just the battery.. I doubt it's a software issue. This may be a recurring issue for Linus but I can almost guarantee it's because it's kept on charge for 12+ hours a day....
Hi,
I went to an official Samsung repair store and they replaced the battery and re-flashed the original firmware. Do you have any suggestions from here on? Battery life still is kind of crap in stand-by mode...
@@DorianDiaconuTV what kind of phone do you have?
Might have been hijacked by malware that makes your phone mine cryptocurrencies for somone else. Would explain the hot phone and battery drain
What a stretch l, is tht possible
Its this. Someone has his info and is targeting his stuff. He is getting mined.
Yeah thats what i thought
It's possible, there's been reports of multiple malware miners.
Yup I agree with you
Linus, I have the same issue as well with my S9+. Thanks to your video now I know I am not the only one. I actually used to think that it might be due to the Exynos processor used in India by Samsung. However since your phone is from US using snapdragon processor, even that option is out.
So here is the problem. My samsung S9+ gets too hot while using. Sometimes to the point that the internal software kicks in and shuts the phone down to protect it from damage. Funny thing at many of those times I am using just google maps.
The battery drains so fast that with regular use I get only 8-9 hours battery life.
The only thing I have done different is use Pixel launcher app because I positively hate bixby and I want google on my left swipe. So far there has been no help from Samsung. However I have a silver lining.
As soon as I run safe mode on the phone for few hours and then revert,
the heating problem gets sufficiently controlled. The battery life also gets slightly better. Besides that I use powerbank to get through the day.
So this is all I can give you. I do hope you find a solution to this problem. As it would help me too.
Thanks for making these videos.
No, he's Canadian. And I'm pretty sure they use exnyose as well. I have Canadian S7 Rogers in us with exnyose, not sure about new ones though.
I have a perfectly fine S9+, sadly no Snapdragon. Yes, it does get hot, but nothing phone-breaking. I've been using it for 2 years now, and the only problem was the crappy cable. Anyway, I'd suggest you to decrease the resolution to FHD+ and CPU speed to 70%.
Btw, I was used to the swipe lift to open Google feed too, but got over it. You can set the Bixby button to do just that- I have set it to single press to open Google and that opens up the Google feed.
Linus, when you had your old phone you always used cable to copy apps and settings from old to new. YOU never started fresh. the test s9+ you used it fresh and manual installed all your apps. thats why.
Curious if this is the reason.
1 up this, an out of date ROM is often better than a dirty flash of the same BUT updated ROM, deprecated settings get moved over and streams get crossed...
This sounds like it makes the most sense. If he had some weird app settings from a while ago and never bothered to correct them it would make sense that those craptastic settings are somehow killing his battery life. I was also thinking if maybe (recently) it has to do with connecting his phone to Bluetooth devices or even his own body heat? Hell maybe even being around so many computer components and heat and variables messes with his phones abilities
That seems stupid, I have the same problem with my S6 and I started fresh :/
Also note that even if he did start fresh, Samsung AND pixel Android 7/8/9 operating systems don't list true background process data. That is solely up to the OS battery manager to figure out, of course with some front end daemon to keep the memory manager from shutting it down and crashing the whole system. Either way, this data is hidden and encapsulated for security purposes (aka row hammer and other low level hack protection)
A lot of people complaining in the comments like "Why don't you just do this, why don't you just fix it yourself". Except that's not why you paid nearly a thousand dollars to buy a phone. You paid for it so it comes perfect out of the box. And the subpar battery life on Samsung phones in inexcusable for the premium price you're paying.
You can tinker with it all you want and fix these issues yourself, but it's stupid that you had to pay so much and you still have to work on it.
But my S9+ works normal. Sooooooo.....
Well said, the very reason I don't buy Samsung anymore last three I had all had weird battery issues could not rely on the devices at all.
only solution, don't buy this overpriced garbage
If the battery life on Samsungs were really that bad there'd be way more complaints, especially from reviewers.
My s8+ and s9+ and note 9 worked amazing with battery especially note 9 get 2 days od battery life
I have this same issue with my phone. Its an old galaxy s5 but i would pull it out of my pocket or pick up it from my nightstand and it would be really warm to the touch and battery life would be almost 0. After a long time experimenting i figured out that it was a few specific apps that if left open in task manager caused the behavior, even though the battery manager didnt indicate otherwise. Since ive started closing the specific apps in task manager after use, my battery life/over heating problem has been solved.
My T-mobile s5 dies quick when sending and receiving text messages. I believe the OLED is part of the problem. The other part is on Samsung/T-mobile crapware. The phone freezes for a second for every message keeping the screen on, tuchwiz seems to have a memory leak (it always crashes. After the crash the phone runs better), and the touch screen interacts with my keys and legs. Also I have had 3 s5's (first 2 had screen failure) and 6 battery's (counting the 3 Samsung ones that came with the phone. The other 3 are aftermarket) and every battery starts bulging within a month.
i have same problem with my S5
Kindly share what those battery draining apps are. Thks!
I used to use an S5 with a similar issue. My father has an S5 still and can't keep a battery arrive for more than 8 hours.
Perhaps you all have a faulty battery charge sensor, giving you a false reading. Try letting the phone´s battery run down to 0%, and then keep using it as normal to see if it turns itself off, or if it keeps running, meaning you have a false reading and the battery still has charge.
Possible that apps keep your device awake by holding wake locks, preventing it to switch to low power states.
Using BetterBatteryStats is a way of tracking those down. Might require some adb commands to work properly though.
my S9+ did that same thing. all my friends had amazing battery life on theirs. i got it replaced but only after arguing with a Verizon employee over how the phone itself was not saying anything was wrong. but i still had to charge it several times a day with very light use.(responding to occasional texts ONLY) I couldnt use the phone. but my replacement S9+ can last a full day on performance mode without dying.
I really appreciate this video because of the validation it gives my argument, which is that my first S9+ had a bad battery. AND its not just me, its possibly a Samsung issue.
Ah I see you're a man of Mugi aswell
Test if the issue persists when the phone is in ”SAFE MODE" that way you can make sure 3d party apps are causing it or not
Omg.. I thought that its only me 😂😂
If Linus wants to solve the problem, then firstly Linus must discover the source of the problem.
So he needs to r00t it, all three devices.
Then use them all together for a week, and compare the data.
It could be as simple as the original S9+ having a broken battery (ie/ low voltage regulator, causing cut off when stressed, heated, or drained to a certain point).
Or it could be a bit more complex of Linus running a service deep in the background which isn't triggering the AndroidOS to take notice of it and preventing the system from sleeping. Perhaps the original device is running an older version which he hasn't updated. Or it could be a Samsung service which is the cause, and it wasn't updated with the OTA update... but the new fresh device with a newer Operating System has this bug ironed out.
Or much more complicated it could be a driver, kernel, or scheduler issue (or ROM). Just because the phones are identical doesn't mean they're the same. If they can log how the system responds to calls made by the applications and tasks (Wifi, GPS, LTE, BT etc etc) he can rule this out or pinpoint the issue.
And lastly, the worst scenario is that it could be an issue based on all these problems. He got the first (and most expensive) batch of the S9+ from retail. Something like an old app that cannot update, in conjunction with a Samsung Service is causing the kernel to misbehave, this stresses out the battery, and the older battery which now has less capacity (eg 3,200mAh) is prematurely dying/shutting the system down.
....again, he needs to r00t it and look at the issue more carefully (ie "Scientifically"). And his discovery WILL have an improvement to our understand and uses.
But if he does his warranty is null and void and Samsung won't help him. And it's just rooting, you don't have to use fancy 1337 speak. Rooting has and still does afaik void warranty, and this would be a warranty issue. Not to mention that he already stated he pretty much copied app for app what is on his daily, even the same accounts and etc. So, I highly doubt it's some "service" causing Android to not sleep, and older versions don't cause that. Updates don't magically fix problems that weren't there as part of the previous update.
@@p4rsec
Firstly he got the phones for free. And secondly Linus is rich. He values finding out the issue moreso than the money.
The ONLY reason he won't r00t it is because he wants help from Samsung. But didn't you hear, he said Samsung has stopped helping him and responding. So he doesn't have anything to lose. Not sure what 1337 speak you are on mate.
And I gave you genuine technical reasons of what might cause the disparity. Again the handsets are indentical but NOT same. Frankly I trust Linus over you, so I do think there is something minutely different between the handsets. His experiment didn't fail, it just came to a non-answer. So the only way to forge-ahead would be to r00t it and delving deeper.
I don't understand why you would discourage someone from discovering the truth, seems like backwards-philosophy.
The inconsistent battery is why I took up the pixel 2 XL
what's the purpose of r00ting it? just wondering
I'm using a Galaxy S7 right now, and it doesn't even get me through HALF A DAY. I close any app that I'm not currently using. I'm going to get a Pixel 2 XL soon.