@@gametrain5439 yea, a joke that Linus himself removed because he said "Speaking of saving a buck, thermaltake 500, yea thats not really about saving a buck, its just really nice."
Please remember that original google pixel still get android 10 i think only pixel brand that focus on update maybe coz they have less phone software to make rather than samsung ,oppo,realme or vivo
@EdgeOfTheShadow Nope, that's incorrect. I just bought a new iphone 6 battery and replaced myself for about 30 CAD. It's not very hard to do, but at lot more work than on the G3.
@@sandalguy he is right, it depends on where you get it. There really is not right or wrong here because he bought one thing and you bought another. Plus you don't know if he if Canadian. You are, according to your comment. Just saying.
@@jacobmccloskey171 Hah :-) I guess you are partly right. I got my replacement battery from Irland. I'm in Norway... What price you pay depends on a lot of things of course, but I'm guessing ebay is the best place for most. If I'd been a bit more patient I could probably have gotten one for a little less from China.
You don`t have to root iPhone... whyli you have to do it to Android to make it even close to iPhone. I think that is the Main point of it. You can take old Android, do a lot of work and vola you have modern os, while on iPhone you don`t have to do anything. (You Also can not do much even if you want to though ;)
chiru G rooting is one click? like get the bootloader unlocked, install a custom recovery, install a custom rom? it’s just as hard as jailbreaking or even harder from device to device. let’s see how will you unlock the bootloader on something like a p20pro with one click in 2020. stfu and stop playing smart noob, you’re just an android fanboy who tries to look smart
T Choosing not to root doesn’t take away points from someone’s IQ. And I don’t think realizing the difference between IQ and effort takes that much mental work. Now, I’m afraid someone else’s IQ has gotten lukewarm; it’s definitely not mine.
12:25 Actually it does have wireless charging, although optional in some markets, there was even a version that came with the charger included in the box.
@@alimanski7941 yeah, I remember just buying a cover/case that enabled wireless charging and had a built in screen cover. not a case you put around the whole phone but one that just replaced your back cover and had this flap that would cover and protect your screen, essentially giving you a case without making the phone more bulky...
what you need to do to make the phones better: LG G3: Downgrade the OS, root the phone, do a bunch of stuff on a computer, download a 3rd party OS, wipe the phone clean and replace the battery. iPhone 6:
*Iphone 6: Replace battery. Since they're both old it goes for both phones. Its just that you can do it yourself on the g3 and buy multiple batteries cheaply. Fastest way to go from 0% to 100% is swapping the battery, so its a handy thing
@@peterdozal8825 Cool, I love having to drive somewhere to replace a phone battery and having to pay for the labour of it too... Even though for those $30 I could buy two of those batteries used in the vid and swap it myself in less than a minute...
@@Karl-pu5cn the labor is free my guy. IDK man seems way faster and easier to drop your phone off at the apple store for an hour while you get lunch then to need to spend hours and hours trying to set up an old android phone, ultimately failing and giving up.
@@peterdozal8825 Maybe you would fail and give up. And thats ok. But you're acting like you'd have to do that process. You don't. Simple as. You said the labour's free. So you're spending $30 on one battery with a small capactiy. Thats called being ripped off. But hey if you like wasting money Apple is good for that 👍
For a lot of devices there are modded Google Camera options available (XDA Forum) which improves the camera quality drasticly. Works perfectly on my Oneplus 3.
@@gureguru4694 But its true. No biometrics really slows things down in day to day usage. There is no way around that. In general, that is the most identifiable difference between phones from 5 years ago and phones from today. Nothing else really became 'essential' in the general design of a smartphone. Type C and wireless charging are nice to haves but no manufacturer can omit biometrics on their new devices.
@@gureguru4694 Every modern phone has biometrics, even if you are spending less then 200dollars. And biometrics are a HUGE difference and I wouldn't go back, especially if the price difference is so minimal ( yes, 150 is more then double then 70 but 80 dollars extra aren't to much to ask for these features)
I started with the Samsung S1, then went iPhone 4S, then Samsung S6 and now just switched to the iPhone 11. I’m not biased to either, I just choose whichever takes my fancy at the time and suites my needs best. So many good options these days!
You seem to be very similar to me ☺ I started out with a Samsung Dart, a prepaid phone, although I remember vividly wanting the LG Optimus T. Lol Then I had an iPhone 4 for a brief period, until I got it taken away. Those were some of the best times I've had with a phone. After that I bought myself what seemed to me the best phone at the time, the Galaxy Note 4. It was an awesome device up until it completely stopped working after countless bootloops that it made me suffer. Needless to say it was bittersweet, it was everything I wanted except it had issues right from the start. Since my Note 4 I've been using a Galaxy j3 prime, which is a prepaid phone. I'm not upset about it though, I'm actually pretty amazed how much phones have progressed. Everything from lower to mid range and flagship devices from today are a lot better from when everything first started. I'm hoping to get a newer phone soon, I'm ready for some changes. 🙂
NXN Music exactly, Had a gs3 then rooted, htc 8, htc 10, iphone 6, gs8 and iphone 8 is current device and it runs like new I want which ever catches my attention and right now im feeling ios
A friend who has the 6+ said that iOS 12 gave it a new lease on life. Still not fast compared to something more recent, but fast enough to not be annoying to use.
An iPhone compared to other phones in those days should have been considerably faster.. That was the period when iphones were way more superior than any Android OEMs. The iPhone 6 still holds the record for the fastest & most number of sales in Apple's entire product category.. So by those standards, it's pretty humbling...
It’s not fair to do all that work on the Android but nothing on the iPhone. If you are comparing, you leave both on the highest software version they are both capable of.
Thien Tu Yes, so that means the LG phone should’ve just been left on the greatest software it could’ve been on officially by LG, not loading a custom ROM.
I get what you mean, but Android phones are literally made to be customized. I mean, some android companies even have support on their websites to help you get the best out of your phone. But I understand why you would think that, cause Apple is much harder to root, or jailbreak I think its called.
@@BixbyConsequence I've had literally 11 phones since 2014. 3 from Windows, 3 from Apple, and 5 from Android. A lot of it was migration issues in finally deciding to ditch Windows after suffering through W10Mobile, then growing pains with Apple, then finally spending 3 months trying out different Android phones until reluctantly landing on the S9. Up until I caved and went for Android though nearly everything I bought was used. Some people upgrade every year, everyone's different with this stuff.
Wait till it gets hot, i had a G3 and it nearly set my handbag on fire once , very crap phones LG make, always buy from Huawei Sony or HTC they make really good reliable phones.
Is that true? I often ponder the validity of that statement. Ford vs Chevy: are the not both trying to sell us motorized vehicles which bring us swiftly from point A to point B? Ford and Chevy are the same damn thing... cars! So, you want a device to view media and connect with the outside world? You need a computer! This means PC, MAC, APPLE, ANDROID, etc. Windows XP (1999) can do all your basic funcitons. Anything more should appeal to particular needs or functions for we users. A 1998 build WINDOWS XP PC running on 512 MB RAM could do, for the most part, everything we do on iPad and iPhone. I think bias matters because to misinform the consumers that THIS machine is the same as THAT machine just isn't true when it come to spending more. An iPAD at $1,000 provide NOT A SINGLE FUNCTION that you can't get from a $600 PC that would crush the iPAD in terms of specs. "And for only $400 more, you can get just a SLICE of a powerful and capable machine." I just dont get it
@@robotspy7922 FUCK OFF. FORD AND CHEVY ARE DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT COMPANIES WITH DIFFERENT CARS OF DIFFERENT TASTE FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. YOU CANT JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE THAT A VETTE C7 Z06 2019 IS THE SAME AS THE 2019 STANG.
Zachary Helfrich Average users would have no idea how to flash the rom. I wanted to see how stock OS performs as well. But I think we already know the answer
Loki27 see I like both camps and your right average people won’t flash a rom abut the g3 still works fine, and to the apple side it adds credit to the added value you pay for with the higher price. But on the flip side you probably could have done quite a bit with the device.
Perforance-wise it would probably be similar. This test was to show that you can get modern browsers and *security* on an old device, while still getting performance from the era the phone is from. You're not going to get better performance out of the phone all of a sudden.
@@t4iga121 Yea, i wonder what the 'battery health' meter showed on that iphone 6. oh wait maybe the 6s is the first to support that feature. .. I think iphone 6 is the earliest supported phone.
It might perform a bit better depending on which unit you buy but I think the point in the video was to show this to consumers who might not waste more time and money on replacing a battery, whereas on the LG G3 it's much easier.
my phone( my dads old phone) is a iPhone se 1st gen and I am going to save up money though the summer and get the new iPhone in the fall but the se 1st gen still works super well the only problem is battery life and thats only when I play games but I mostly listing to music and game on a desktop
@@deleted6052 Well they didn't show the best an iPhone can offer. they likely just used whatever version was installed on the iPhone when they bought, despite mentioning that it could have been. they also didn't replace the battery which is pretty easy to do or pretty cheap to pay someone to do it. they also didn't jailbreak it, which is easier than installing lineage os. and they even overpaid for the iPhone, you can find an iPhone 6 at much lower prices than they did. and the iPhone 6s which isn't much more expensive would have been even faster. but instead they just used it how it came out of the box, and yet it performed almost exactly the same as the LG.
Vu1can you brought out some points I didn’t even think of! They really are just trying their best to put the very inferior LG on the iPhone level even though this isn’t an accurate test.
Shitload of work that the average person wouldn't be able -- nor be comfortable enough -- to do just to get an Android device to compete with an iPhone of the same generation with its native factory OS should tell you all you need to know.
That guy next to Linus is an obvious Apple hater... While Linus gives Apple some good compliments, the other guy immediately comes up with a random other flaw.
he didn't say nothing about what lg g3 can do and it allso has wireless charging and if someone whant's fast charge there is a kernel that can do that don't even mention ir blaster for remote controll
God that guy in glasses is so biased. When LG is slightly faster: OMG ITS SO MUCH BETTER IT OBLITERATED THE IPHONE!!! When the iPhone is faster: Ehhhhh they are basically the same
@@appelsin2821 Honestly, rewatching it I agree with you! Although I've been a huge Android user, I still agree that there were times where the iPhone was better and Jake (the guy in the glasses) didn't acknowledge it. Sorry for my previous comment, I didn't really watch it while paying attention
George4All true im watching this video for 2nd time and i cant beleive what does he say site loaded on iPhone on android still loading bar “the android was faster” ye ok
@@appelsin2821 You do know that custom roms can and do change the max achievable brightness right? Among other things like the volume mixer so he isn't wrong.
When everyone's definition of "average" is endlessly shifting every which way, of course that's an impossible standard to fulfill. That said, if you're not one of the wankers that expects everything in the world to be made specifically for them, LTT has done plenty of informative videos.
Average user aka not a user that knows a whole lot about tech and might he never heard that you can put a custom OS on a smartphone to improve its lifespan. Which is a thing. I work for an IT system integrator and we get so see these people and companies every day. And I know LTT did that. But most fo their videos recently had no content at all. Pure entertainment@@ShroudedWolf51
You can get a G3 cheap because the G3, G4, and V10 had a ton of issues with the SoC overheating and bootlooping. I work in cellphone repair and you wouldn’t believe how often I see this issue and there is no fix just a temporary way to get it on long enough to pull data and that doesn’t always work.
@@AlphaFox78 You can have a good experience before having a bad one. I had a Galaxy S4 active that worked perfectly until it all of a sudden wouldn't charge anymore. That doesn't invalidate all the great experiences I had with it before it broke.
Fun fact: LG actually decreased display saturation a lot after a software release (I guess v10E on the d855) because it wasn't "accurate". Before that colours looked really punchy
@@unlokia I'd rather recommend people get a Korean G2, to be entirely honest, or a Verizon G2 running Xdabbeb's KK Rom. I would still be using it if it weren't for a failing wifi issue.
Yeah that was one of the main knocks. One of the first 1440p screens but dim. Was able to boot saturation with custom kernels etc. Was a fun hackable phone for the time.
Not fair, because one of the feature you get buying an android phone is the possibility to install a custom rom, which apple doesn't allow. Also the iphone at that time costed three times the g3 if not more, so it is totally fair
@@michelelandolfi1572 I'm not sure what you mean, in reference to what I originally said. My point, if I can remember correctly, was to have a base line, of the original OEM experience of the device, to compare with both, the rooted version, and the iPhone 6.
@@michelelandolfi1572 rooting and android phone is not a feature. It's an exploit. This video is beyond dumb, and targets like 1% of the market. I would not install some semi-tested nightly build of an OS as my daily driver device, used for banking and private data etc. There can be any type of crap in those OS:es not to mention bugs. For a fun experiment sure, but i would rather have the manufacturer support their devices with official OS versions and security patches.
@@brottochstraff i mean i like to tweak my phone. I used to change rom once a day on my old old phone. It really depends on what type you are, i like to tweak tech, you don't apparently. As for security, we are spied anyway, so who cares about that, the government doesn't care about neither of us
Also the security patches on lineageos are not usually up-to-date. They go only as far as the devs would allow the patches to go and sometimes they get delayed.
@epic gamer Removable batteries have been pushed further and further into the budget category. That's why, to this day, the LG V20 from 2016 is still the world's best phone with a removable battery.
@epic gamer if any of them had decent performance and a good camera for 2019, kinda like the pixel 3a, then I'd consider it. otherwise I'd rather not settle that hard :/
1. No it wasn't a LineageOS "thing" 2. Yes rear-facing speaker just suck. 3. Final load time wasn't even close. Gave nod to the Android when the first page was 0.001 second faster, but when iPhone loaded and was ready while the LG was not even half way. 4. iPhone has been known as the best camera on any smartphone with only the pixel and note 9 edging it for a short while. It's not LineageOS. Listen, I'm not an Apple fan. Matter of fact they piss me off (4 Samsung Notes later, Essential and Razer phone 2) but you only make yourself less credible when you obviously try to persuade your agenda with horseshit.
One of the worst phones ive had that literally PLUMMETS in performance after a few months of usage and major bugs that HTC know about and will tell you 'its a common problem, we don't know how to fix it, but try googling'.
Ive had my S5 on straight talk for 3 years now. Replaceable battery, removable SD card. The last of the non-throwaway phones. Still does everything I need for $46 a month with 10GB of 4G data. Nothing compares really
LineageOS is great and all, but it would be really nice if you could consider some other options to go along with it. Like Resurrection Remix or Pixel Experience. Also, just based on my personal experience (so don't quote me on that), I have never needed to root a phone to install custom TWRP recovery and a custom ROM on it. All that was needed was an unlocked bootloader. Also, I have always installed the custom TWRP recovery through ADB (Android Debug Bridge) and Fastboot. Additionally, does the battery wear down that much anyway? If the wear level is 25-30% after 5 years, that's not too bad I reckon. Edit: added some more info.
LG phones are kinda odd when it comes to flashing. You could adb and fastboot, but that would scare away even more people. So it is easier just to root. Also, Lg phones from this era are really odd with things like flashing
Nightquaker i think they didnt went with other custom roms because others dont have the same focus on a streamlined experience but rather try to be more appealing to enthusiasts
@@alexk1480 That's a good point. However, it would've been nice for information purposes, to mention the other roms, since that would increase the device coverage, so to speak. Since LineageOS dropped support for some devices that are still supported by RR and Pixel Experience.
I'm currently using my 5-year phone (galaxy S5) using resurrection remix + a custom kernel - it surely does feel like it's resurrected and since RR rom is based on lineage, it delivers better performance/battery life while also looking better
So... you had to go through all that effort to install a custom unofficial ROM? Doesn't really seem fair. That's like installing jailbreak tweaks to add features to an iPhone. Edit (7/17/21): basically, what I'm saying is that he equates installing a custom ROM, rooting a phone, and potentially bricking a phone (something that many people aren't comfortable with), to full official iOS support, straight from apple. That's like giving someone a drug to help compete better with an S-tier athlete. Then, he reaps the benefits of a custom ROM, like how it's a new version of android, while dismissing the flaws of lineage as well (like the camera). It's like saying the athlete on drugs won without mentioning that the athlete died in his 30s. One complaint they had was a lack of dark mode. Android 6 didn't have dark mode, just like how the iPhone 6 on Android 12 didn't either. They _could have_ jailbroken the iPhone to get dark mode, but that would be in favor of the iPhone, and the biased blonde guy wouldn't want that. So if you're going to leave one phone completely unmodified, then you better not modify the other one, or "give it steroids" and then call it "fair."
Fr tho it is not much of an effort, i rooted and flashed my old tablet in like 2 hours with zero knowledge when i was 11 years old. Also your comparison is a little wrong, installing new rom is like updating your os, just with a little more steps
@@betaplay2914 True, it's not _that_ hard, and I've done it before, but if they are going to give the Android an advantage by installing a custom ROM and then , then they should at least give the iPhone it's own advantage.
@@cidsx What advantage? The iphone has a recent iOS version and you wanted them to compare the two phones then with the Android on some old ass Android version? And that would've somehow been a more just comparison in your eyes? But they gave the android a recent update as well so it can actually compete and you're getting your panties in a bunch over it? Nigga shut the fuck up.
@@cidsx What advantage? The iphone has recent updates and a new IOS version and you wanted them to compare the phones then? That would've been a more "just" comparison in your eyes? More than giving the android a custom rom so it can stand on somewhat equal footing with updates? Makes sense. Even of the jailbreaked the iphone 6 it wouldn't have made a difference.
@@dxshawn532 If you're going to compare two five-year-old phones, then you have to compare it with it's latest official software version. So yes, they should compare it with some old ass Android version. It's not fair to just ignore one of the iPhone's best advantages-- software updates-- by giving the Android an aftermarket third-party OS run by the community that a lot of people that aren't in the tech world would not be comfortable flashing.
It's not really the phones fault. It is capable of running the latest Android, if the manufacturer wanted to. LG wants to sell as many phones as possible, Apple wants to trap as many people as possible in their closed eco system so they have to buy other Apple stuff like Macs.
it is a fair comparison. the ''fix'' on the android is a con, same as the price of the iphone. Now, it's up to you which is the biggest con, twice the price or a little bit of effort...
I love android. Much more than i love iOs, however, it's lame and sad seeing you guys taking every jab at the iPhone. Like come on, the G3 has a brand new battery as well... what i'm trying to say is: be completely objective! Android kicks ass but don't tell me that it's an utterly fair test to mod the shit out of that g3, give it a new battery and defend it's camera capabilities because lineage is coded for so many devices... i'm subbed so just grow up!
Abstract Dreamscape it’s so obvious that Linus is so biased against Apple there is a reason why I like many other people stopped taking what guys like Linus say seriously anymore
@@fo0dude Well, my OP5 is held in with clamps, not glue, so i just stuck a thin pry tool, bent up the display, undid a few screws, replaced the battery, pushed everything back together and bam, new battery in a few minutes with very little effort.
It was a great phone until it fucking died on you one day. Fucking garbage piece of shit phone. This and the v10. Lg might have been in the top 5 manufacturers right now if it didnt have those problems.
No one clever would use their phones for more than 2 years, even if the os is still smooth, the improvements in technology and battery capacity just wouldn't justify for anyone to use it for a third year. technology improves exponentially half a year not three years. Looking at people using iPhone 8 or below feels like a stone age man playing with his sticks
@@brianluk2006 U joking right? This might have been the case back in 2010 but definitely not anymore. The incremental improvements of today's smartphones don't justify an $800+ upgrade. I'm using a 4 years old OnePlus Two with stock OS, stock battery and plan to use it a few more years. I'm still satisfied by its performance despite being a power user with relatively high multitasking demands. The camera is decently good (although it was never the selling point of the device when it launched) and the stock battery still holds up a full day with moderate use (it could maybe benefit from a replacement though). Only complaint is it's OS which OnePlus promised to fix but never did. It has some bugs and its doze mode implementation is kinda "meh". I'm also pretty proud that I have 0 scratches or damages done to it. It is still in pristine condition thanks to being handled with care and always being in a case, and it even still has to original plastic screen protector that came pre-installed from the factory :P Might have gone a little off-topic there but you get my point, phones have longer lifespans than ever before. No need to upgrade every 2 years.
@@julianbarzana5821 I just hope you are using it for texting not for other entertainment purposes and that you are still using it because you don't care or isn't able to afford a new one. I am ranting about those who put big bugs imagining it is the best and then forced to stick with it and watch technology grows every year still playing games on that 5 inch display while staring sadly at the people using new edge to edge display phones
it was pretty solide also befor the screen broke :) i repaired my oncle g3 4 times :) in a 4 year periode got used to it :) he doesnt use his tpu case and always breaks his screen protector within a month lol now he has a xiaomi note 5, still not broken :) some scuff etc but no screen broken :)
i loved that phone i used to use stock custom roms for battery life cause cyagenmod didnt have that great battery life but stock with mods was great. alot of roms :) miss the days where you could easy root and flash different roms....
Thought the same. Especially the speakers. “Yeah the speakers on the android are shut but at least you don’t run into the risk of covering them with your hand” Like dude really?
@@abeplus7352 Well boot loop sucks but what might be worse is Microsoft putting alot of bloatware on android 10. Unfortunately Google is bad about saying no to sharing software as demonstrated when you see the stupid duck browser ad to slanger Google on Google's own software.
I love how the first test was very slightly faster on Android and he was super excited about that, but when the second test was a lot better on iphone he said they about the same but the Android was better in the first test. Like Bro come on.
@@Mikey-zc7hq I think what Jake meant there (and yes his name is Jake), is that G3 being faster first and iPhone 6 being faster the second time means that they were averagely the same, sometimes one is faster and the other is not and vice versa. He's not saying that on the second test both G3 and iPhone 6 are equally fast and meant that the G3 is faster because of the first test, but rather they both are comparable to each other due to they averagely being the same in terms of power.
Eh come on. Browsing is pretty slow and 2gb of memory just isn't enough. Also the camera is crap if you go Linus route and flash Lineage. If you don't - then you have oodles of security vulnerabilities. Also speaker is bad. And the fingerprint sensor is bad to the point of being useless and slower than pattern unlock.
@@NJ-wb1czbrowsing on a S5 with Lineage 16 it's not bad, actually it's really fast if you're using Google Chrome. The camera it's worse than stock rom but it's not that bad and fingerprint works perfectly, just swipe your thumb and ta-da, it's unlocked
@Butt Why?? I'm not too concerned about the security vulnerabilities if I'm gonna be honest, as most of the privillege escalation/code execution ones seem to require specially crafted apps. I've been using the same APKs since 2014 (while updating apps like Snapchat, WhatsApp, Instagram and others which communicate over the web) but mostly make my own APKs for things I want to tinker with. I can't use custom ROMs because of limitations with my banking app. The only audio played through my phone speaker is that "bop bwop" interface sound and my ringtone, everything else is consumed through my headphones, so in that regard the crap speaker doesn't bother me too much. The fingerprint scanner however, just works for me. It's not perfect, and you get the occasional mis-read here and there. Individuals with softer skin may have a significantly harder time using the finger scanner though, as the skin surface may deform slightly when swiping over it, causing an el-not-recognised-o. After checking through the publicly known vulnerabilities, it seems like these precautions could somewhat reduce the chances of getting exploited on an older version of Android: disable autoplaying h264 videos, avoid third-party media player apps, avoid suspicious looking custom font apps, avoid suspicious messaging app replacements. If your Android does not have Stagefright patched though, these won't help, as the mediascanner will end up causing the inevitable. *I'm no security expert or anything, so take these with a grain of salt*. The real solution would be to keep the system all patched up with security updates. Here are some of the reasons I'm sticking to my s5: Integrated Wolfson DAC (sorry, but after owning only Samsung phones, other phone DACs sound a bit off to me), Heart Rate monitor, customisable shortcuts on the camera app, dual camera, slow motion & 60fps & 4k capable, replaceable battery, multi window. It does everything I need it to do - and as I don't use my phone much, I can't justify an upgrade just to get what is effectively a "faster phone". Yes there's the benefit of the security updates, latest and greatest etc, but from a user point of view, it's not worthwhile my time right now to migrate half a decade's worth of data to a new device. Something that would push me to upgrade would have to be a phone which is a direct successor to the S5: A phone that isn't designed to be 'disposable' like most of these newer unrepairable glued-shut handsets . A phone that is built for the power-user. Replaceable battery, easily accessible internals. A maintainable, long-lasting device, like the S5, or even the S4. With the added benefit of an abunance of spare parts should something go wrong. Unfortunately I don't see a phone like that coming into existence at all, so I'll be sticking to the S5 until it gives up the ghost.
I can absolutely confirm that different roms affect display brightness as well as some other things like camera performance etc. And as for CyanogenMod or now Lineage OS I always had a dimmer display , especially on LCDs
Same here, just experienced it on my 2013 Nexus 7 and was like "what the heck is this nonsense. Ended up downgrading to Oreo (had been on a Pie ROM) and got better speed and better brightness.
You don't really have to though. This was just a workaround to continue getting security updates........in reality unless you're downloading tons of stuff from the dark web 24/7, these continued updates do really nothing but help you sleep better at night. That being said I still believe the iphone came out on top
@@ShinyPlayz no, it is not superior. You can't even close recent apps all at once, needs to be done one at a time. Can't download torrents...apple makes the users use their phones the way THEY want you to use it.
My long term experience with the LG G3 (d855) was really bad. It had overheating problems which made the phone body crack at the top and bottom (replaced within warranty but cracked again after a couple months). I had to have the board replaced within 10 months for the same reason as well.
@@the.littlest.toaster ikr? mine got to the point where it would make the display fade out and stop responding, only fixed that after they replaced the board but I got the same issue again after a couple months. then i gave up on it and bought a different phone.
This video popped up and Im surprised how far down i had to scroll for a comment about this. The G3 was my first Android and the overheating got so bad I actually had an app that turned off half the pixels with a virtual mesh. The screen was very nice but the phone couldnt handle powering it
Μαλακας Κουραδακιας maybe, but the longevity of iOS is longer unless you want to possibly break and Android phone, wipe it, downgrade, then install linage os.
Rooting is fun. I have freakin Nougat on my old Samsung Galaxy S3!! The battery life is amazing with all the bloatware gone! I also use F-droid for my apps. Also, XDA forums are a GREAT resource!
@@moomoo5537 On the battery side, search for it on samsung website, or amazon, they can really be very cheap. Else, search on the rom/recovery/kernel on the xda section of your phone. They are plenty of roms and how to do it on this site (I'm telling you how to search yourself, and not posting a direct link, because you'd probably also want another android too, so you'll know where to search ^^)
@ok ok I don't necessarily throw a fuss over gapps, even micro or pico gapps. It's just more Google services running in the background hogging valuable which resources, which kinda defeats the purpose of why I rooted my old phone. Plus I like the fact of open source. Open source doesn't eliminate a possible vulnerability, but at least I can study the code on my own. Plus it stimulates my inner nerd. I'm a control freak too.
Well, 480p is enough for me, really.... It's a tiny screen compared to a laptop anyway, if I have things to do or if I want to watch videos, then I just take out my laptop. The only purpose of a smartphone is to send some quick messages, check the weather, use it as a satnav at most, take a picture of a bill or road accident to quickly show someone, but that's really it. For real, this is what people use their smartphones for all the time, ok, some people with no life open the twitter or facebook app. Why would you need that resolution? If you want something done right, like making a real document, or taking a beautiful picture, then grab a real camera and pick up your PC. A smartphone is really a quickly on the go fix thing, it's the duct-tape of electronics.
Yes, it is, yes it has. Actually this is the very reason I bought one (used, a little over a year ago), because it was one of the very few, that had wireless charging build in. At that point in time, this was a rather obscure feature not many models had. Mainly the Samsung S series and only very few others. The more modern phones have adapted this by now, but it is rather common in higher end phones not in the
I’m one of those weirdos who swaps between android and ios every couple of years. I have an 11 Pro currently but I used to have a G3 and wow that was a great phone.
I've been using a G3 for months, it's been good enough for me stock so I haven't bothered with rooting or cfw or anything Pretty sure it can have wireless charging, it's got the contacts for it in the back panel right next to the NFC so you just need to get a coil that fits.
@@RonnieDeuce87 Funnily enough, that's the entire reason I got one. Had an obscure TV that I needed a remote for, found the hex codes online and figured that the cheapest way to use those codes was this android app IRplus and a phone with a blaster. Been my daily driver since then.
They shouldn't have picked the G3, it was a flawed device. The brightness issue was well noted with that device and it was known to dim itself. Use an S5 (released at the same time) and you'll see the best screen Android and phones in general had at that time (until the Note 4)
A OnePlus One would have been great too, but they probably couldn't find a good cheap one. I still have mine and use it occasionally, and it's almost as good as my current phone, if one of the microphones hadn't broken.
You cant use magisk without an unlocked bootloader afaik. Tried to do it on my 1+3 and got nothing but a bootloop. I think it has something to do with not being able to modify the boot.img when the bootloader is locked
I don't need stuff like magisk I just need a PC, ADB and unlocked bootloader. After I unlocked the bootloader I installed TWRP and flash LineageOS there
They need to install lineage OS to make sure the system security will keep being updated. For people who have common sense in using their smartphones (like, not recklessly opening suspicious websites), they don't need to change the stock OS. My father have the small and cheap samsung galaxy Y for 5 years now and it still performs well.
Right. The problem with installing with a lengthy multi-step process (generally speaking) is there's often a random point of failure in one of those steps that really stops the show. And you won't know what the failure is until you buy the phone and begin the process.
@@mickey5515 I agree and I don't feel upset Bill Gates is Nerd,Mark Zuckerberg is nerd,Markus Persson is nerd Nerds are the ones who change the world I am proud of the fact that I am nerd
I'm still waiting for Linus to address one major thing regarding the iPhone that he misses every time. The iPhone hardware is designed around the os and vice versa. The software needs to support one configuration and one only. Android versions are made so they can support your phone, your tv, your tablet, your toaster...etc. That is the biggest difference that nobody mentions ever. If you want a phone that is a communication device first and maybe listening to some music, look up a website, consume media and you don't really care about customization and tinkering around, iPhone is the way to go. Now that you can choose between power consumption versus speed its a solid choice. If you like to customize your phone and you want to use custom apps, use your phone as a pen drive (copy anything you want on it) and do the same things as mentioned above, then use an Android device. It's that simple people. The video should at least mention these things at some point.
@Marioyou are missing the point here. I said that the iPhone is made for one and only one configuration. If you need an extra layer between your software and the metal then it will be by default slower. Which you need if you have different hardware. People need to chill the fuck out, enjoy their chosen device, not comparing it to others. Whatever works for you use it! That is what matters. I don't "make it seem as if Android SoC market was that wide". Android SoC market is wide. Kirin, Exynos, Helio, Snapdragon, these are the top SOC's (every one of these actually has many products with different CPU and GPU combinations) used in Android devices and the list grows by the day.
That's not fair. JB would destroy Android root completely. The jailbroken apps on iOS far outclass anything existing on Android that it's not even a comparison anymore.
@@cunnyman But by keeping the iphone stock, he is putting it at a direct disadvantage, due to it running on stock os, an the android running on modified os.
@@felixwilkinson8954 To be fair, I understand his reasoning. At this point, the iPhone 6 was still supported by the latest OS at the time (iOS 13, whereas the G3 was running at a disadvantage using an older Android version. So by Rooting the device and installing Lineage, he evened out the playing field quite a bit. Honestly, I can also understand why the G3 performed better, its hardware is simply a lot faster than the iPhone 6. The LG G3 ran with a 2.5 Ghz Quad-Core CPU, .45-.58 Ghz GPU, 2-3 GB of RAM, whereas the iPhone 6 ran a Dual-Core 1.4 Ghz CPU, a .45 Ghz GPU, 1 GB of RAM with ALL storage variants, it's obviously clear whose the winner based on the numbers.
The same thing goes for audio too... I rooted and flashed my S4 mini with CM back in the day and the audio sounded like complete garbage over headphones. I immediately restored my stock backup and never looked back.
How to absolutely *GUARANTEE* that people see you as someone who doesn’t have a clue about smartphones : Recommend an old LG model which is notorious for overheating, BGA failure and boot loops/screen flicker issues. Well done Linus. GG. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ [Edit]: In February, I bought an LG G3 sold as “good condition but screen flickers”, knowing what the cause was. I only paid £40 and bought it just to play around with and see if I could fix it. Well, about 6 or 7 hours were invested in it, and I just ABOUT got the screen flickering abated by applying a VERY crude excess heat mitigation fix using heatsink compound and a shim. Once I was a few hours in and had been flashing various things and messing around, I remember feeling that if I didn’t stop soon I’d be feeling “the red mist rising” as I lost more time, and could have potentially allowed it to make me irritated. To cut my losses and absolutely prevent myself wasting ANY more precious time on it, I calmly and rationally smashed the screen FULL FORCE into the corner of my wooden table, multiple times, ensuring it had completely shattered. Doing this ensured I wouldn’t waste more effort or time (and maybe money in parts) on a very crappy phone. I removed the battery and casually tossed the G3 into the bin, and moved on. Don’t regret that one bit. The phone is a lemon, and if any of you buy one then that’s, of course, your prerogative - but LG just ain’t good at smartphones, and I’d strongly counsel against it.
yeah stupid linus doesnt know literally the entire history of a boring, unsuccessful phone by a semi serious company which never played a big role in the smartphone market and was forgotten after weeks. How could he?!
Michael Kawecki I feel you intend to wilfully miss the point I made. Of all the “old” Android phones he may have picked, he chose the absolute WORST example of how NOT to properly test and manufacture (or support) a consumer mobile device - something from LG. A trivial Google search would have indicated this phone as an outright lemon, and one which LG were taken to court over not putting right when the issues came to the fore. Oh well, I don’t come to LTT for accuracy or detailed knowledge of anything more than plugging in cards and calling it “engineering” (as a qualified electronics engineer of 28 years myself), I come for his light hearted and good spirited nature, and for a chuckle.
I had (and still have) the LG G2 back in the day when it first came out, it was such a solid phone at the time. I believe the display was also 1440p. That was such an awesome phone, and along with all of LG's software options, there was so much to customize even back then.
TheLarry for the time and effort they spent flashing a new rom on the g3, they could have purchased a battery upgrade kit (about the same price as the LGs) and upgraded in hours less then flashing.
"Root related things... Though, not everybody's into that."
I'm a dentist. That's my jam.
Cracked me up man.
But isn't jam bad for your teeth though
I found this comment at the same time I was thinking about root
You mean, you find it enjoyable and relaxing to pull teeth out or drill and filling them up? Huh, good for you.
@CSHARP Also ask barbers and gardeners.
"speaking of saving a buck"
*pc case costs more than both phones combined*
I spent 20 bucks on a new one with a window.
No it doesn't. You can find a PC case for like 2 euros. You can get good PC case for like 30+ euros.
@@vasilije94 He's making a joke about the advertised PC case
@@vasilije94 learn how to read
@@gametrain5439 yea, a joke that Linus himself removed because he said "Speaking of saving a buck, thermaltake 500, yea thats not really about saving a buck, its just really nice."
I'm Android all day everyday, but homie at first was hating on the iPhone too hard, lol
@TSU_ NOAHH can you read?
@TSU_ NOAHH not my fault you lack comprehensive skills
Hayden Thompson micro usb?
TSU_ NOAHH We could tell you were a kid based on your comments
John Doe thats facts bro
I've never owned an iPhone but it's really impressive how well they age
I just sold my iPhone 8 and honestly, at 3 years old, it's still incredibly snappy.
My dad is still rocking an iPhone 6
@@why_tho_ I’m still on a 5s after 3 YEARS wowie my dad has the normal iphone 11 no pro or pro max
Please remember that original google pixel still get android 10 i think only pixel brand that focus on update maybe coz they have less phone software to make rather than samsung ,oppo,realme or vivo
I'm still rocking first gen SE after 5 years, no problem.
"No wireless charging obviously" - Actually some models of the LG G3 (the D855 at least) do have wireless charging.
I think the point is to show/give confidence to try new things and not just recycle it.
Doesn't even need to be that specific model. The wireless charging coils are attached to the back cover, of which can be swapped for one that has it.
Yes! At the time my G3 came with a dock on the box!
Mine certainly had wireless charging with free wireless charger. Pity the G3 died big time after 3 years.
The g2 also had wireless, I was confused why the didn't have it on the 3
Guy with glasses was definitely upset over the iPhone LMAO
looks like gay
What?
Yea he’s ticked off
@Tryeasy. Yeah, back in 2012
He salty af
turn off adaptive display brightness under display settings. LOS always does that.
@@astr0b1t Lineage OS
@@astr0b1t Plebbit.
@EdgeOfTheShadow Nope, that's incorrect. I just bought a new iphone 6 battery and replaced myself for about 30 CAD.
It's not very hard to do, but at lot more work than on the G3.
@@sandalguy he is right, it depends on where you get it. There really is not right or wrong here because he bought one thing and you bought another. Plus you don't know if he if Canadian. You are, according to your comment. Just saying.
@@jacobmccloskey171 Hah :-) I guess you are partly right. I got my replacement battery from Irland. I'm in Norway...
What price you pay depends on a lot of things of course, but I'm guessing ebay is the best place for most. If I'd been a bit more patient I could probably have gotten one for a little less from China.
Linus, you’re undercutting the iPhone by not jail breaking it. Either compare them stock or modify the os on both
That's a very good point. He rooted the Android but didn't jailbreak the iPhone. Is feel like it was a pretty biased test overall
You don`t have to root iPhone... whyli you have to do it to Android to make it even close to iPhone. I think that is the Main point of it. You can take old Android, do a lot of work and vola you have modern os, while on iPhone you don`t have to do anything. (You Also can not do much even if you want to though ;)
@@haukikannel Maybe because you CANT install custom ROM on iphone :)
@@Mikey-zc7hq He didn't root it, he said you can root it if you're into such thing
chiru G rooting is one click? like get the bootloader unlocked, install a custom recovery, install a custom rom? it’s just as hard as jailbreaking or even harder from device to device. let’s see how will you unlock the bootloader on something like a p20pro with one click in 2020. stfu and stop playing smart noob, you’re just an android fanboy who tries to look smart
Linus: Speaking of being wor....
Me: Presses the right arrow key 4 times
Piyush Palawat exactly why i stopped paying for youtube premium lol
Why did you skip the end ad? There's nothing after it.
Press L. It's more consistent.
Just use l
You can just use the "0" key to automatically skip in-video ads.
The title should be “Renewed Android vs 5 yo iPhone”
Imagine the amount of effort they had to put in 🤣🤣🤣 this video is hilarious
@@jomsanatomy5672 what effort lol
@@jomsanatomy5672 If rooting takes effort you most definitely have lukewarm IQ
@@ReeferSmoker xd
T Choosing not to root doesn’t take away points from someone’s IQ. And I don’t think realizing the difference between IQ and effort takes that much mental work. Now, I’m afraid someone else’s IQ has gotten lukewarm; it’s definitely not mine.
12:25 Actually it does have wireless charging, although optional in some markets, there was even a version that came with the charger included in the box.
All it takes to get wireless charging in the g3 is replacing the back cover. Easy stuff.
D855 had wireless charging
@@alimanski7941 yeah, I remember just buying a cover/case that enabled wireless charging and had a built in screen cover. not a case you put around the whole phone but one that just replaced your back cover and had this flap that would cover and protect your screen, essentially giving you a case without making the phone more bulky...
Either a back cover, or like what I did with mine it was a sticker you put in the existing cover.
Yes it has wireless charging, Still got the LG wireless charger. 5 years ago it was quite something although charge speed very very slow.
what you need to do to make the phones better:
LG G3: Downgrade the OS, root the phone, do a bunch of stuff on a computer, download a 3rd party OS, wipe the phone clean and replace the battery.
iPhone 6:
*Iphone 6: Replace battery. Since they're both old it goes for both phones. Its just that you can do it yourself on the g3 and buy multiple batteries cheaply. Fastest way to go from 0% to 100% is swapping the battery, so its a handy thing
@@Karl-pu5cn you can take an iphone 6 to apple and they will replace the battery for only $30....
@@peterdozal8825 Cool, I love having to drive somewhere to replace a phone battery and having to pay for the labour of it too... Even though for those $30 I could buy two of those batteries used in the vid and swap it myself in less than a minute...
@@Karl-pu5cn the labor is free my guy. IDK man seems way faster and easier to drop your phone off at the apple store for an hour while you get lunch then to need to spend hours and hours trying to set up an old android phone, ultimately failing and giving up.
@@peterdozal8825 Maybe you would fail and give up. And thats ok. But you're acting like you'd have to do that process. You don't. Simple as. You said the labour's free. So you're spending $30 on one battery with a small capactiy. Thats called being ripped off. But hey if you like wasting money Apple is good for that 👍
For a lot of devices there are modded Google Camera options available (XDA Forum) which improves the camera quality drasticly. Works perfectly on my Oneplus 3.
Same here, note9
@@OmarZ77 there might be no port for just your device. But using camera 2 api enabler you can get it working on almost all devices.
Link ? I have honor 5x
Buy phone for 70usd, order door bell for 250usd after that.
$349.00
I'd take one from the "junk drawer", carrier's aren't a thing in Europa for soo long.
I don't understand :(
Notthedroids Yourelookingfor wait til the end.
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 z
4:33 - Wait... so I _didn't_ need to take all those years of programming courses?
BTW did mention I've taken programming courses?
@@goeiecool9999 oof
I have done it on a couple phones, does that make me a double or even triple dev?
@@kristopherthompson1342 I don't get how taking a course is bragging I think your just trying to get dat internet clout
That dude in the adidas shirt couldn’t hide his contempt for iPhones if he even tried.
Because it is better.
Batman i own an lg g3 AND an iPhone 6, trust me, it’s not any better, infact worse
@@unwantedlinks2730 which one is best?
@@unwantedlinks2730 no fuckin did not
@@unwantedlinks2730 I own lg g3 and iphone 6 and trust me lg g3 way better
Wow..Whats up with this channel ? Lately the videos are about things that i can, actualy buy!!!
Yeah I love it when they talk about cheap stuff
@@ohnoitschris Every day I hope for another Handy Tech Under $100
yeah but his elitist attitude about it is bad taste. like ohhh no biometrics feels like this is from the stoneage. fucking ass
@@gureguru4694 But its true. No biometrics really slows things down in day to day usage. There is no way around that. In general, that is the most identifiable difference between phones from 5 years ago and phones from today. Nothing else really became 'essential' in the general design of a smartphone. Type C and wireless charging are nice to haves but no manufacturer can omit biometrics on their new devices.
@@gureguru4694 Every modern phone has biometrics, even if you are spending less then 200dollars.
And biometrics are a HUGE difference and I wouldn't go back, especially if the price difference is so minimal ( yes, 150 is more then double then 70 but 80 dollars extra aren't to much to ask for these features)
I started with the Samsung S1, then went iPhone 4S, then Samsung S6 and now just switched to the iPhone 11. I’m not biased to either, I just choose whichever takes my fancy at the time and suites my needs best. So many good options these days!
You seem to be very similar to me ☺
I started out with a Samsung Dart, a prepaid phone, although I remember vividly wanting the LG Optimus T. Lol
Then I had an iPhone 4 for a brief period, until I got it taken away. Those were some of the best times I've had with a phone.
After that I bought myself what seemed to me the best phone at the time, the Galaxy Note 4. It was an awesome device up until it completely stopped working after countless bootloops that it made me suffer. Needless to say it was bittersweet, it was everything I wanted except it had issues right from the start.
Since my Note 4 I've been using a Galaxy j3 prime, which is a prepaid phone. I'm not upset about it though, I'm actually pretty amazed how much phones have progressed. Everything from lower to mid range and flagship devices from today are a lot better from when everything first started.
I'm hoping to get a newer phone soon, I'm ready for some changes. 🙂
Same here, switching back and forth between android and iOS.
NXN Music exactly,
Had a gs3 then rooted, htc 8, htc 10, iphone 6, gs8 and iphone 8 is current device and it runs like new
I want which ever catches my attention and right now im feeling ios
@NXN Music how u guys backup whatsapp between android and iphones?
@@Coaxox how u guys backup whatsapp between android and iphone?
The 6S was a MASSIVE improvement over the 6, the 6 is a lagfest in comparison. The 6s was the first silicon that performed well on the larger screens
double the speed.. but 7 is waterprof....
Fee oh i have a 6s
A friend who has the 6+ said that iOS 12 gave it a new lease on life. Still not fast compared to something more recent, but fast enough to not be annoying to use.
But sadly it doesn't support iOS 13
(The iPhone 6)
@@Bob-iu8yo minimum requirement for ios 13 is 6s/se
That guy with glasses was trying to defend the LG and kept
jabbing at the iphone HARD XD
ye like how he said remembered the stock lg screen was brighter. Butthurt moment lol
because maybe iphone aucks hard?
@Graxxor Anandro Vidhelssen You must be rich or something TF...
Otherwise known as Jake
His name is Jake
He was sooo salty
Android loads website 0.01 seconds faster, "Oh the Android was a bit faster" iPhone loads website 0.01 seconds faster, "it was about the same"
An iPhone compared to other phones in those days should have been considerably faster..
That was the period when iphones were way more superior than any Android OEMs. The iPhone 6 still holds the record for the fastest & most number of sales in Apple's entire product category..
So by those standards, it's pretty humbling...
Gaurav Jha i better buy a Huawei y9 with latest update for like 2 yrs than a crappy iPhone6 just because I want an iPhone
0.01 seconds lmao what an apple fan boy
@@johnshin6731 lmao i love this comment
I think @John Shin has you dead to rights.
It’s not fair to do all that work on the Android but nothing on the iPhone. If you are comparing, you leave both on the highest software version they are both capable of.
I mean ios is supposed to be jailbreak-proof so it'd be much more difficult 🤷♂️
Thien Tu Yes, so that means the LG phone should’ve just been left on the greatest software it could’ve been on officially by LG, not loading a custom ROM.
they knew the android wouldn't even turn on without fixing it and installing extra software
I get what you mean, but Android phones are literally made to be customized. I mean, some android companies even have support on their websites to help you get the best out of your phone. But I understand why you would think that, cause Apple is much harder to root, or jailbreak I think its called.
"All that work"
It's literally so easy to put custom ROMs on an android.
Anyone can do it, without any technical knowledge.
Oh look, it's my old old old phone, the LG G3. I was surprised at how well it was running!
How many phones have you gone through since 2014?
@@BixbyConsequence I've had literally 11 phones since 2014. 3 from Windows, 3 from Apple, and 5 from Android. A lot of it was migration issues in finally deciding to ditch Windows after suffering through W10Mobile, then growing pains with Apple, then finally spending 3 months trying out different Android phones until reluctantly landing on the S9. Up until I caved and went for Android though nearly everything I bought was used.
Some people upgrade every year, everyone's different with this stuff.
Had LG G4 loved it, but bricked in a year. Their customer service is the worst.
Rich Savage and I have Samsung s3 since maybe 2012
Wait till it gets hot, i had a G3 and it nearly set my handbag on fire once , very crap phones LG make, always buy from Huawei Sony or HTC they make really good reliable phones.
Can't have bias like that when comparing buying options for the consumer.
Is that true? I often ponder the validity of that statement. Ford vs Chevy: are the not both trying to sell us motorized vehicles which bring us swiftly from point A to point B? Ford and Chevy are the same damn thing... cars! So, you want a device to view media and connect with the outside world? You need a computer! This means PC, MAC, APPLE, ANDROID, etc. Windows XP (1999) can do all your basic funcitons. Anything more should appeal to particular needs or functions for we users. A 1998 build WINDOWS XP PC running on 512 MB RAM could do, for the most part, everything we do on iPad and iPhone. I think bias matters because to misinform the consumers that THIS machine is the same as THAT machine just isn't true when it come to spending more. An iPAD at $1,000 provide NOT A SINGLE FUNCTION that you can't get from a $600 PC that would crush the iPAD in terms of specs. "And for only $400 more, you can get just a SLICE of a powerful and capable machine." I just dont get it
@@robotspy7922 FUCK OFF. FORD AND CHEVY ARE DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT COMPANIES WITH DIFFERENT CARS OF DIFFERENT TASTE FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. YOU CANT JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE THAT A VETTE C7 Z06 2019 IS THE SAME AS THE 2019 STANG.
@@robotspy7922 wow ur smart 😐
RobotSpy yeah TL:DR
@@robotspy7922 you should be drug tested.
I would have rather have seen you try the g3 stock before flashing the rom just to show both sides of android.
Zachary Helfrich Average users would have no idea how to flash the rom. I wanted to see how stock OS performs as well. But I think we already know the answer
Loki27 see I like both camps and your right average people won’t flash a rom abut the g3 still works fine, and to the apple side it adds credit to the added value you pay for with the higher price. But on the flip side you probably could have done quite a bit with the device.
Perforance-wise it would probably be similar. This test was to show that you can get modern browsers and *security* on an old device, while still getting performance from the era the phone is from. You're not going to get better performance out of the phone all of a sudden.
Or how the non removable battery in a 5 year old iPhone performs
@@t4iga121 Yea, i wonder what the 'battery health' meter showed on that iphone 6. oh wait maybe the 6s is the first to support that feature. .. I think iphone 6 is the earliest supported phone.
I wonder how the iPhone would have performed with a new battery as well.
I think they already tweaked the processor so it wont kill the battery, but maybe its based on health %, idk
It might perform a bit better depending on which unit you buy but I think the point in the video was to show this to consumers who might not waste more time and money on replacing a battery, whereas on the LG G3 it's much easier.
@@itsx01andt60 bull shit.
@@itsx01andt60 I know I had one.
My friend has a 6s plus and replaced the battery and it was running iOS 13 at the time and it was like a new phone they said
Damn... I loved my old G3. It had also an infrared blaster, which was nice.
Last great LG. The 4 was just a less good looking minor upgrade and bootloops.
I would've used it for longer but my gfs dog bit a chunk out of the corner of it
Ahh I remember mine, I have a S9 now and probably will get the S10 5G. But the LG G3 was ahead of its time to be honest.
Definitely got myself in trouble a few times with the Galaxy remote feature.
Buy a Huawei Mate 20 Pro or P30 Pro and you'll have it again.
The fact that you don’t have to do anything and your iPhone is STILL supported after 5 years is awesome
Yeah but the features like AR, Animojis and stuff is not available though
@@thatgurkangurk thats less than 1% of the experience
@@greensamurai5805 yes, but for me, that is a dealbreaker
you can get a pretty good Samsung device for only 199$, and that will get updates until 2023
my phone( my dads old phone) is a iPhone se 1st gen and I am going to save up money though the summer and get the new iPhone in the fall but the se 1st gen still works super well the only problem is battery life and thats only when I play games but I mostly listing to music and game on a desktop
A more fair “everyday normal Joe” comparison would be head to head with its most up to date native OS. Just sayin.
But that’s what the title insinuates
@@deleted6052 Well they didn't show the best an iPhone can offer. they likely just used whatever version was installed on the iPhone when they bought, despite mentioning that it could have been. they also didn't replace the battery which is pretty easy to do or pretty cheap to pay someone to do it. they also didn't jailbreak it, which is easier than installing lineage os. and they even overpaid for the iPhone, you can find an iPhone 6 at much lower prices than they did. and the iPhone 6s which isn't much more expensive would have been even faster. but instead they just used it how it came out of the box, and yet it performed almost exactly the same as the LG.
Vu1can you brought out some points I didn’t even think of! They really are just trying their best to put the very inferior LG on the iPhone level even though this isn’t an accurate test.
Shitload of work that the average person wouldn't be able -- nor be comfortable enough -- to do just to get an Android device to compete with an iPhone of the same generation with its native factory OS should tell you all you need to know.
@@mattm.3244 I'm an average joe, and this is easy if you just follow the instructions to a tee. Have done this. Succeeded.
That guy next to Linus is an obvious Apple hater... While Linus gives Apple some good compliments, the other guy immediately comes up with a random other flaw.
yeah it was total bias.
he didn't say nothing about what lg g3 can do and it allso has wireless charging and if someone whant's fast charge there is a kernel that can do that don't even mention ir blaster for remote controll
Joben Obeña Just because he’s an Android user that doesn’t mean he’s bias
Apple Hater? you mean a realist?
TheOneG36 జ్ఞా No, he’s just an Apple hater
Also the g3 has an integrated equalizer with lineage os and makes sound crazy good on a wired audio device
God that guy in glasses is so biased.
When LG is slightly faster: OMG ITS SO MUCH BETTER IT OBLITERATED THE IPHONE!!!
When the iPhone is faster: Ehhhhh they are basically the same
Because it literally looked faster but then changed when he seen the iPhone was loading the webpage in the background..
Honestly tho he was saying the truth
@@appelsin2821 Honestly, rewatching it I agree with you! Although I've been a huge Android user, I still agree that there were times where the iPhone was better and Jake (the guy in the glasses) didn't acknowledge it. Sorry for my previous comment, I didn't really watch it while paying attention
George4All true im watching this video for 2nd time and i cant beleive what does he say site loaded on iPhone on android still loading bar “the android was faster” ye ok
@@appelsin2821 You do know that custom roms can and do change the max achievable brightness right? Among other things like the volume mixer so he isn't wrong.
Damn...LTT did a really good informative video for the average user? What happened here :D
Yea i think they starting to get it : P
Average user? Ha
When everyone's definition of "average" is endlessly shifting every which way, of course that's an impossible standard to fulfill. That said, if you're not one of the wankers that expects everything in the world to be made specifically for them, LTT has done plenty of informative videos.
Average user aka not a user that knows a whole lot about tech and might he never heard that you can put a custom OS on a smartphone to improve its lifespan. Which is a thing. I work for an IT system integrator and we get so see these people and companies every day.
And I know LTT did that. But most fo their videos recently had no content at all. Pure entertainment@@ShroudedWolf51
don't speak so soon, i see a Galaxy Fold peeping out of Linus's back pocket
You can get a G3 cheap because the G3, G4, and V10 had a ton of issues with the SoC overheating and bootlooping. I work in cellphone repair and you wouldn’t believe how often I see this issue and there is no fix just a temporary way to get it on long enough to pull data and that doesn’t always work.
The G2 and V20 are the only ones I'd recommend from either line, tbh.
I can say that you are right about the overheating of the g4.... * It smell hot plastic ... *(sorry bad spelling)
@Error 909 Not Found then how was the experience solid?
@@AlphaFox78 You can have a good experience before having a bad one. I had a Galaxy S4 active that worked perfectly until it all of a sudden wouldn't charge anymore. That doesn't invalidate all the great experiences I had with it before it broke.
True. My d855 only lasted for a year before it got bootlooped. They seemed to fix it starting from G5, which i still have until today
The LG G3 was well known for having a more dim, washed screen than usual.
Fun fact: LG actually decreased display saturation a lot after a software release (I guess v10E on the d855) because it wasn't "accurate". Before that colours looked really punchy
asianskywalker Not to mention MYRIAD hardware failures. Slow clap for Linus👏🏻 for endorsing this model.
@@unlokia I'd rather recommend people get a Korean G2, to be entirely honest, or a Verizon G2 running Xdabbeb's KK Rom.
I would still be using it if it weren't for a failing wifi issue.
Yeah that was one of the main knocks. One of the first 1440p screens but dim. Was able to boot saturation with custom kernels etc. Was a fun hackable phone for the time.
@@USSMariner But the G2 is known for having issues with the touch screen over time.
You should of bought two LG G3's, and left one on it's stock software, and then compared them both to the iPhone 6...
Not fair, because one of the feature you get buying an android phone is the possibility to install a custom rom, which apple doesn't allow.
Also the iphone at that time costed three times the g3 if not more, so it is totally fair
@@michelelandolfi1572 I'm not sure what you mean, in reference to what I originally said. My point, if I can remember correctly, was to have a base line, of the original OEM experience of the device, to compare with both, the rooted version, and the iPhone 6.
@@michelelandolfi1572 rooting and android phone is not a feature. It's an exploit. This video is beyond dumb, and targets like 1% of the market. I would not install some semi-tested nightly build of an OS as my daily driver device, used for banking and private data etc. There can be any type of crap in those OS:es not to mention bugs. For a fun experiment sure, but i would rather have the manufacturer support their devices with official OS versions and security patches.
@@brottochstraff i mean i like to tweak my phone.
I used to change rom once a day on my old old phone. It really depends on what type you are, i like to tweak tech, you don't apparently.
As for security, we are spied anyway, so who cares about that, the government doesn't care about neither of us
Also the security patches on lineageos are not usually up-to-date. They go only as far as the devs would allow the patches to go and sometimes they get delayed.
Wow I can feel the iPhone hatred from the guy with the glasses
Daniel Lawson indeed
Exactly. “Have u ever dropped this thing in a toilet bowl?” that’s so obvious. He can’t be a tech reviewer
Daniel Lawson ikr
lol exactly, like he has some personal issue with iPhone.
Typical android nerds...
this is why i still miss removable batteries. longevity went way up
Yes tough if the manufacturer is not an ass the thing should be easy to dismantle anyhow to replace the battery! :D
My phone still has removable batteries😂😂😂😂thanks metro pcs
I'm keeping my LG V20 until it breaks.
@epic gamer Removable batteries have been pushed further and further into the budget category. That's why, to this day, the LG V20 from 2016 is still the world's best phone with a removable battery.
@epic gamer if any of them had decent performance and a good camera for 2019, kinda like the pixel 3a, then I'd consider it. otherwise I'd rather not settle that hard :/
1. No it wasn't a LineageOS "thing"
2. Yes rear-facing speaker just suck.
3. Final load time wasn't even close. Gave nod to the Android when the first page was 0.001 second faster, but when iPhone loaded and was ready while the LG was not even half way.
4. iPhone has been known as the best camera on any smartphone with only the pixel and note 9 edging it for a short while. It's not LineageOS.
Listen, I'm not an Apple fan. Matter of fact they piss me off (4 Samsung Notes later, Essential and Razer phone 2) but you only make yourself less credible when you obviously try to persuade your agenda with horseshit.
And the s10" easily beat it out on cameras compared to the XS Max. Only with the 11 have they been better finally lol
@ReviewHallyu he probed meant that lol last Gen's cameras obv can't compete with even mid range modern phones
The dude with the glasses and blonde hair was getting on my nerves so bad..the bias against Apple really shows ..
He's straight facts
Cy Boii nope.
@@frake.e2706 yes sir
@@WhiteSubie nope
@@adityabhardwaj1808 yes
did this with my htc one m8 and it works very fine :) and i got this phone for about 20 bucks
YoloGamer MirIsLangweilig
Nicht schlecht
One of the worst phones ive had that literally PLUMMETS in performance after a few months of usage and major bugs that HTC know about and will tell you 'its a common problem, we don't know how to fix it, but try googling'.
does it have 4g?
NE H but it was such a beautiful phone imo. I loved the htc ones hardware.
@@zachburke8906 except the camera. The only highlight was it did good low light shots.
Still using my Galaxy S5 Mini
Works pretty well.
I'm glad to see a channel like this looking at older, still usable things.
My s3 mini died recently and I upgraded to lg q6.
I have been used s5 till 1 month ago
@@r3df0x41 s3 mini is a solid phone for a 2012 phone,it s like the s3 if you don t do heavy gaming s3 is still perfect in 2019
Nice joke XD
Ive had my S5 on straight talk for 3 years now. Replaceable battery, removable SD card. The last of the non-throwaway phones. Still does everything I need for $46 a month with 10GB of 4G data. Nothing compares really
LineageOS is great and all, but it would be really nice if you could consider some other options to go along with it. Like Resurrection Remix or Pixel Experience.
Also, just based on my personal experience (so don't quote me on that), I have never needed to root a phone to install custom TWRP recovery and a custom ROM on it. All that was needed was an unlocked bootloader. Also, I have always installed the custom TWRP recovery through ADB (Android Debug Bridge) and Fastboot.
Additionally, does the battery wear down that much anyway? If the wear level is 25-30% after 5 years, that's not too bad I reckon.
Edit: added some more info.
LG phones are kinda odd when it comes to flashing. You could adb and fastboot, but that would scare away even more people. So it is easier just to root. Also, Lg phones from this era are really odd with things like flashing
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 I see. That's fair enough. I always used ADB and Fastboot for my Moto G3 and Xiaomi Note 5 Pro. Worked like a charm.
Nightquaker i think they didnt went with other custom roms because others dont have the same focus on a streamlined experience but rather try to be more appealing to enthusiasts
@@alexk1480 That's a good point. However, it would've been nice for information purposes, to mention the other roms, since that would increase the device coverage, so to speak. Since LineageOS dropped support for some devices that are still supported by RR and Pixel Experience.
I'm currently using my 5-year phone (galaxy S5) using resurrection remix + a custom kernel - it surely does feel like it's resurrected and since RR rom is based on lineage, it delivers better performance/battery life while also looking better
So... you had to go through all that effort to install a custom unofficial ROM? Doesn't really seem fair. That's like installing jailbreak tweaks to add features to an iPhone.
Edit (7/17/21): basically, what I'm saying is that he equates installing a custom ROM, rooting a phone, and potentially bricking a phone (something that many people aren't comfortable with), to full official iOS support, straight from apple. That's like giving someone a drug to help compete better with an S-tier athlete. Then, he reaps the benefits of a custom ROM, like how it's a new version of android, while dismissing the flaws of lineage as well (like the camera). It's like saying the athlete on drugs won without mentioning that the athlete died in his 30s. One complaint they had was a lack of dark mode. Android 6 didn't have dark mode, just like how the iPhone 6 on Android 12 didn't either. They _could have_ jailbroken the iPhone to get dark mode, but that would be in favor of the iPhone, and the biased blonde guy wouldn't want that. So if you're going to leave one phone completely unmodified, then you better not modify the other one, or "give it steroids" and then call it "fair."
Fr tho it is not much of an effort, i rooted and flashed my old tablet in like 2 hours with zero knowledge when i was 11 years old. Also your comparison is a little wrong, installing new rom is like updating your os, just with a little more steps
@@betaplay2914 True, it's not _that_ hard, and I've done it before, but if they are going to give the Android an advantage by installing a custom ROM and then , then they should at least give the iPhone it's own advantage.
@@cidsx What advantage? The iphone has a recent iOS version and you wanted them to compare the two phones then with the Android on some old ass Android version? And that would've somehow been a more just comparison in your eyes? But they gave the android a recent update as well so it can actually compete and you're getting your panties in a bunch over it? Nigga shut the fuck up.
@@cidsx What advantage? The iphone has recent updates and a new IOS version and you wanted them to compare the phones then? That would've been a more "just" comparison in your eyes? More than giving the android a custom rom so it can stand on somewhat equal footing with updates? Makes sense. Even of the jailbreaked the iphone 6 it wouldn't have made a difference.
@@dxshawn532 If you're going to compare two five-year-old phones, then you have to compare it with it's latest official software version. So yes, they should compare it with some old ass Android version. It's not fair to just ignore one of the iPhone's best advantages-- software updates-- by giving the Android an aftermarket third-party OS run by the community that a lot of people that aren't in the tech world would not be comfortable flashing.
Linus: "Here's a fair comparison, let me just fix the Android first..."
It's up to you whether an hour of your time is worth $75 or not.
Billbob it looks like a bit more than an hour
@@preluderacer88 Well it's an hour for someone who knows tech, a person like that will most likely not buy a their phone for 75 bucks on ebay.
It's not really the phones fault. It is capable of running the latest Android, if the manufacturer wanted to. LG wants to sell as many phones as possible, Apple wants to trap as many people as possible in their closed eco system so they have to buy other Apple stuff like Macs.
it is a fair comparison. the ''fix'' on the android is a con, same as the price of the iphone. Now, it's up to you which is the biggest con, twice the price or a little bit of effort...
lol. What a glowing endorsement for a mobile game. "its like playing x-box 360 graphics on a laptop that can't quite do it" I can actually relate.
I love android. Much more than i love iOs, however, it's lame and sad seeing you guys taking every jab at the iPhone. Like come on, the G3 has a brand new battery as well... what i'm trying to say is: be completely objective! Android kicks ass but don't tell me that it's an utterly fair test to mod the shit out of that g3, give it a new battery and defend it's camera capabilities because lineage is coded for so many devices... i'm subbed so just grow up!
The iPhone is a piece of shit there's no sugar coating it loser
Abstract Dreamscape I bet you didn’t even read his comment
Abstract Dreamscape it’s so obvious that Linus is so biased against Apple there is a reason why I like many other people stopped taking what guys like Linus say seriously anymore
@@imperfectninja6291
It's so obvious these scientists are biased against god
I think he was trying to get the most out of each device. That's why he modded the G3, if he had the option to on iOS, he would've
the amount of excuses the guy with the glasses came up was very telling of the winner
He got fired I think
lil man Lol wouldn’t be surprised.
They were incredibly close speed wise. The larger higher res screen seals the deal for me personally.
But u have to fix it soo
@lil man I was about to say dude needs to be fired lmao
Oneplus devices seem to have a lot of support from developers. I checked LineageOS and they have Android 9 for the OnePlus One.
it doesn't have a replaceable battery, that's why they didn't go for it
@@fo0dude Well, my OP5 is held in with clamps, not glue, so i just stuck a thin pry tool, bent up the display, undid a few screws, replaced the battery, pushed everything back together and bam, new battery in a few minutes with very little effort.
OnePlus one battery is like 5 min's and a screwdriver..
Yeah the battery is very much replaceable. Hard to fuck up
The one plus one is really good
It's sad how they are comparing 5 yo phones like ancient technology and I can't upgrade my iPhone 5s (no joke)
No disrespect but u can upgrade by getting a midrange android, and u probably want an iphone
@@stefanandjelkovic7598 Sounds like a downgrade.
@@SG-ds8pr sounds like bullshit
Im gonna say this now if anyone owns a 6s thinks and says their phone is faster than any android go fuck yourself
@@MlordSlav any android? Even a Samsung Galaxy S3 from 2012? don't think so
I'm surprised the LG G3 you found didnt boot loop 🤣
Thank you they were pieces of shit
It was a great phone until it fucking died on you one day. Fucking garbage piece of shit phone. This and the v10. Lg might have been in the top 5 manufacturers right now if it didnt have those problems.
@@umersalman1 yeah, g1 and g2 were great, but from g3...
@@umersalman1 yup my G4 boot looped on me one day :(
If u have your TWRP custom recovery with its full nandbackup on it, it wont bootloop that easily, its bootloopproof instead 😊
It's been 5 years since this video, should be updated
amazing how well iPhones hold up over time
IOS >ANDROID
No one clever would use their phones for more than 2 years, even if the os is still smooth, the improvements in technology and battery capacity just wouldn't justify for anyone to use it for a third year. technology improves exponentially half a year not three years. Looking at people using iPhone 8 or below feels like a stone age man playing with his sticks
@@brianluk2006 U joking right? This might have been the case back in 2010 but definitely not anymore. The incremental improvements of today's smartphones don't justify an $800+ upgrade. I'm using a 4 years old OnePlus Two with stock OS, stock battery and plan to use it a few more years. I'm still satisfied by its performance despite being a power user with relatively high multitasking demands. The camera is decently good (although it was never the selling point of the device when it launched) and the stock battery still holds up a full day with moderate use (it could maybe benefit from a replacement though). Only complaint is it's OS which OnePlus promised to fix but never did. It has some bugs and its doze mode implementation is kinda "meh". I'm also pretty proud that I have 0 scratches or damages done to it. It is still in pristine condition thanks to being handled with care and always being in a case, and it even still has to original plastic screen protector that came pre-installed from the factory :P Might have gone a little off-topic there but you get my point, phones have longer lifespans than ever before. No need to upgrade every 2 years.
@@brianluk2006 I used my Iphone 5s for 4 years since january of 2015. Am i from BC?
@@julianbarzana5821 I just hope you are using it for texting not for other entertainment purposes and that you are still using it because you don't care or isn't able to afford a new one. I am ranting about those who put big bugs imagining it is the best and then forced to stick with it and watch technology grows every year still playing games on that 5 inch display while staring sadly at the people using new edge to edge display phones
I like how you can tell who the android purist is
"purist" lmao
@HashySlash WHAT A BURRRRN WHOAAAAAAAA 🔥🔥🔥
Android isn't even remotely "pure"
Or Android licker
@@randyzhu9705 He's not talking about Android being pure. He's talking about the person who's defending Android the most.
The G3 was my favourite phone I've ever had, could take a good beating too
it was pretty solide also befor the screen broke :) i repaired my oncle g3 4 times :) in a 4 year periode got used to it :) he doesnt use his tpu case and always breaks his screen protector within a month lol
now he has a xiaomi note 5, still not broken :) some scuff etc but no screen broken :)
Agreed i have several of them and now using the g6 i miss the IR blaster!
We also need to discuss that LG G3 over a years of decent usage might start having the boot loop issue (I was an owner of that phone)
Is TWRP just said as letters? I've been calling it "twerp" since forever 😂
😂 I guess its full form is team win recovery program...or some sort of that..twerp😂😂made my day
@@aashleysaggar1836 TeamWin Recovery Project. Everyone says twerp.
wtf same
I've always called it by the letters.
Think he spells it out so people don't go and google 'twerp' but instead TWRP.
Love the low-key "yeah I dropped it" from Linus...
But not in the toilet.
Damn I refreshed and it said uploaded 7 seconds ago
Iron man DIES
Captain America DIES
@@LoIis thanks for letting me know
Violet die my ass, stop spoilers
@@LoIis cap dont. Cap just gets old.
@@uberrrmensch guys, don't spoil the endgame.
G4 would be a cooler option. I had mine for almost 2 years and I absolutely loved it. It was an early model but never bootlooped
I miss my G3 ...rip 2014-2017 :(
Now I want to but it again.
Same.
i loved that phone i used to use stock custom roms for battery life cause cyagenmod didnt have that great battery life but stock with mods was great. alot of roms :) miss the days where you could easy root and flash different roms....
I feel like the guy in that Adidas hoodie is an android fan 🤔
Who HHG (Helmet Haircut Guy)? No! Never! lol
Thought the same. Especially the speakers. “Yeah the speakers on the android are shut but at least you don’t run into the risk of covering them with your hand”
Like dude really?
I feel like most the people at ltt are
@@zacharyyousef1156 thats because the people at lmg are smart
He's right tho.
My old G3 was a fantastic phone... till it boot-looped.
It's because you were not using backup software and download to much black market software.
@@ghostunix731 no it's hardware related. There's nothing the poor lad could've done
@@abeplus7352 Well boot loop sucks but what might be worse is Microsoft putting alot of bloatware on android 10. Unfortunately Google is bad about saying no to sharing software as demonstrated when you see the stupid duck browser ad to slanger Google on Google's own software.
Ikr lmao
The dude with the glasses gets in my nerves
I love how the first test was very slightly faster on Android and he was super excited about that, but when the second test was a lot better on iphone he said they about the same but the Android was better in the first test. Like Bro come on.
@@Mikey-zc7hq I think what Jake meant there (and yes his name is Jake), is that G3 being faster first and iPhone 6 being faster the second time means that they were averagely the same, sometimes one is faster and the other is not and vice versa. He's not saying that on the second test both G3 and iPhone 6 are equally fast and meant that the G3 is faster because of the first test, but rather they both are comparable to each other due to they averagely being the same in terms of power.
Still using a galaxy S5. No issues. Got a new battery though. Now it stays charged for days.
same lol but i need to root it and get a new battery
Same here, honestly don't find any of these newer phones nowadays appealing
Eh come on. Browsing is pretty slow and 2gb of memory just isn't enough.
Also the camera is crap if you go Linus route and flash Lineage. If you don't - then you have oodles of security vulnerabilities.
Also speaker is bad.
And the fingerprint sensor is bad to the point of being useless and slower than pattern unlock.
@@NJ-wb1czbrowsing on a S5 with Lineage 16 it's not bad, actually it's really fast if you're using Google Chrome. The camera it's worse than stock rom but it's not that bad and fingerprint works perfectly, just swipe your thumb and ta-da, it's unlocked
@Butt Why??
I'm not too concerned about the security vulnerabilities if I'm gonna be honest, as most of the privillege escalation/code execution ones seem to require specially crafted apps. I've been using the same APKs since 2014 (while updating apps like Snapchat, WhatsApp, Instagram and others which communicate over the web) but mostly make my own APKs for things I want to tinker with. I can't use custom ROMs because of limitations with my banking app.
The only audio played through my phone speaker is that "bop bwop" interface sound and my ringtone, everything else is consumed through my headphones, so in that regard the crap speaker doesn't bother me too much. The fingerprint scanner however, just works for me. It's not perfect, and you get the occasional mis-read here and there. Individuals with softer skin may have a significantly harder time using the finger scanner though, as the skin surface may deform slightly when swiping over it, causing an el-not-recognised-o.
After checking through the publicly known vulnerabilities, it seems like these precautions could somewhat reduce the chances of getting exploited on an older version of Android: disable autoplaying h264 videos, avoid third-party media player apps, avoid suspicious looking custom font apps, avoid suspicious messaging app replacements. If your Android does not have Stagefright patched though, these won't help, as the mediascanner will end up causing the inevitable.
*I'm no security expert or anything, so take these with a grain of salt*. The real solution would be to keep the system all patched up with security updates.
Here are some of the reasons I'm sticking to my s5: Integrated Wolfson DAC (sorry, but after owning only Samsung phones, other phone DACs sound a bit off to me), Heart Rate monitor, customisable shortcuts on the camera app, dual camera, slow motion & 60fps & 4k capable, replaceable battery, multi window. It does everything I need it to do - and as I don't use my phone much, I can't justify an upgrade just to get what is effectively a "faster phone". Yes there's the benefit of the security updates, latest and greatest etc, but from a user point of view, it's not worthwhile my time right now to migrate half a decade's worth of data to a new device.
Something that would push me to upgrade would have to be a phone which is a direct successor to the S5: A phone that isn't designed to be 'disposable' like most of these newer unrepairable glued-shut handsets
. A phone that is built for the power-user. Replaceable battery, easily accessible internals. A maintainable, long-lasting device, like the S5, or even the S4. With the added benefit of an abunance of spare parts should something go wrong. Unfortunately I don't see a phone like that coming into existence at all, so I'll be sticking to the S5 until it gives up the ghost.
I can absolutely confirm that different roms affect display brightness as well as some other things like camera performance etc.
And as for CyanogenMod or now Lineage OS I always had a dimmer display , especially on LCDs
Same here, just experienced it on my 2013 Nexus 7 and was like "what the heck is this nonsense. Ended up downgrading to Oreo (had been on a Pie ROM) and got better speed and better brightness.
@11:21 you can really see the progression of your model realizing how annoying it is to hold that pose long enough to take 3 pictures
The fact that you need to do so much stuff to get android up and running just makes iphones from 5 years ago the far far superior option.
You don't really have to though. This was just a workaround to continue getting security updates........in reality unless you're downloading tons of stuff from the dark web 24/7, these continued updates do really nothing but help you sleep better at night. That being said I still believe the iphone came out on top
i do agree that apple is more superior than android but android is way cheaper and is bang for the buck
@@ShinyPlayz no, it is not superior. You can't even close recent apps all at once, needs to be done one at a time. Can't download torrents...apple makes the users use their phones the way THEY want you to use it.
I really enjoyed my LG G3.
Well, until the screen started to black out.
Never thought about buying an LG again.
Linus, the screen colors may be affected by Lineage OS's LiveDisplay feature. It changes colors based on time of day and light coming into the sensor.
My long term experience with the LG G3 (d855) was really bad. It had overheating problems which made the phone body crack at the top and bottom (replaced within warranty but cracked again after a couple months). I had to have the board replaced within 10 months for the same reason as well.
As soon as he said lg g3 i went str8 to the comment section to c if anyone had the crazy overheating problems i used to have.
@@the.littlest.toaster ikr? mine got to the point where it would make the display fade out and stop responding, only fixed that after they replaced the board but I got the same issue again after a couple months. then i gave up on it and bought a different phone.
I lost two g4's to the bootloops. Garbage phone.
This video popped up and Im surprised how far down i had to scroll for a comment about this. The G3 was my first Android and the overheating got so bad I actually had an app that turned off half the pixels with a virtual mesh. The screen was very nice but the phone couldnt handle powering it
@@umersalman1 LG G4 was an amazing phone, a manufacturing defect doesn't change the fact that it was well designed and engineered.
Apple: *clearly better*
Glasses guy: Its pretty much the same.
Haha funny🤣😭😂 stfu troglodyte
Apple isnt better in my opinion, i had an IPhone last year and i like my Android better- .-.
If you want to overpay for outdated tech you do you
Μαλακας Κουραδακιας maybe, but the longevity of iOS is longer unless you want to possibly break and Android phone, wipe it, downgrade, then install linage os.
@@LegendoftheFa11 like what?
Rooting is fun. I have freakin Nougat on my old Samsung Galaxy S3!! The battery life is amazing with all the bloatware gone! I also use F-droid for my apps.
Also, XDA forums are a GREAT resource!
Yeah me too ! I just had to replace the battery for 2€, and it's my everyday phone ^^
Could you link me how to do it it? I would like to try it too on S3!
@@moomoo5537 On the battery side, search for it on samsung website, or amazon, they can really be very cheap. Else, search on the rom/recovery/kernel on the xda section of your phone. They are plenty of roms and how to do it on this site (I'm telling you how to search yourself, and not posting a direct link, because you'd probably also want another android too, so you'll know where to search ^^)
btw, Lineage 15.1 on a S3 is really stable. I am running it on my GT-I9300
@ok ok
I don't necessarily throw a fuss over gapps, even micro or pico gapps. It's just more Google services running in the background hogging valuable which resources, which kinda defeats the purpose of why I rooted my old phone.
Plus I like the fact of open source. Open source doesn't eliminate a possible vulnerability, but at least I can study the code on my own. Plus it stimulates my inner nerd. I'm a control freak too.
You can get an iPhone SE on eBay for around $80
And q resolution equal to the newest iPhone
Chris K. Which is good enough.
@@RR-uc1wb yeah if you're paying $80 for the same image quality
Well, 480p is enough for me, really.... It's a tiny screen compared to a laptop anyway, if I have things to do or if I want to watch videos, then I just take out my laptop. The only purpose of a smartphone is to send some quick messages, check the weather, use it as a satnav at most, take a picture of a bill or road accident to quickly show someone, but that's really it. For real, this is what people use their smartphones for all the time, ok, some people with no life open the twitter or facebook app. Why would you need that resolution?
If you want something done right, like making a real document, or taking a beautiful picture, then grab a real camera and pick up your PC. A smartphone is really a quickly on the go fix thing, it's the duct-tape of electronics.
@@isaackvasager9957 well then stop buying $200 androids and get a new LG or Samsung
My old g3 got wireless charging built in. It's an d855 I think Europ Version
Yes, it is, yes it has. Actually this is the very reason I bought one (used, a little over a year ago), because it was one of the very few, that had wireless charging build in. At that point in time, this was a rather obscure feature not many models had. Mainly the Samsung S series and only very few others.
The more modern phones have adapted this by now, but it is rather common in higher end phones not in the
Yes, my LG g3 has wireless charging on the original cover, but the original case with the circle does not. Why LG?
exactly, G3 has wireless charging
Talking about qi or real wireless?
@@taenichi176 Qi? Is just regular wireless charging
I’m one of those weirdos who swaps between android and ios every couple of years. I have an 11 Pro currently but I used to have a G3 and wow that was a great phone.
saving a buck... by spending $250 on a thermaltake case
I've been using a G3 for months, it's been good enough for me stock so I haven't bothered with rooting or cfw or anything
Pretty sure it can have wireless charging, it's got the contacts for it in the back panel right next to the NFC so you just need to get a coil that fits.
Ya it had an optional back panel for wireless charging, my G3 had one. The thing I miss most about that phone was the IR Blaster to control my TV.
I hope you learn the process of BGA reballing and hot air rework. You’ll need to.
@@RonnieDeuce87 Funnily enough, that's the entire reason I got one. Had an obscure TV that I needed a remote for, found the hex codes online and figured that the cheapest way to use those codes was this android app IRplus and a phone with a blaster. Been my daily driver since then.
Stock is very slow. I had g3 for years. The RR rom was the best. And it ended update in 2017 iirc.
you only need a new back panel that has qi built in. I had one years ago.
My iPhone 5s is still going strong after 6 years!
Tethered to the charger
@@eman9372 you can replace the battery
Mine too! I use it as a dedicated music player for my car and it's still on the latest iOS version as well :D
"Still going strong" *is crying inside*
iphone 5 😂😂 you live in cave 😀
That one guy next to Linus was way to bias.
They shouldn't have picked the G3, it was a flawed device.
The brightness issue was well noted with that device and it was known to dim itself.
Use an S5 (released at the same time) and you'll see the best screen Android and phones in general had at that time (until the Note 4)
My g3 had a very bright screen
Yeah and practically all used s5's have screen burn.
A OnePlus One would have been great too, but they probably couldn't find a good cheap one. I still have mine and use it occasionally, and it's almost as good as my current phone, if one of the microphones hadn't broken.
I was about to comment about S5 being a better buy but the OLED concern is a good one.
@Vitez od Vozdovca my g5 had horrible screen burn in. I dont remember if my g3 did though. Using an s7 now and i dont have that problem.
I recommend rooting with magisk through your flashing software, and no you don't need officail lineage os support to get a great custom rom experience
You cant use magisk without an unlocked bootloader afaik. Tried to do it on my 1+3 and got nothing but a bootloop. I think it has something to do with not being able to modify the boot.img when the bootloader is locked
I don't need stuff like magisk
I just need a PC, ADB and unlocked bootloader.
After I unlocked the bootloader I installed TWRP and flash LineageOS there
Resurrection Remix > LineageOS
@@purinnyova bro u install magisk after u installed the custom ROM, magisk is the best root method.
@@rodrigofilho1996 I root my phone using LinegeSU, rooting tool from Lineage it self
It's just quick zip flashing and it's fully rooted
9:31 - "It searches for 'F U Jake' really well." ROFL!!!!
I had an LG G3 that bricked after like 2 years. It was a really nice phone but very prone to overheating
Okay but very few people are going to hack and install different operating systems
Those few people are still people..
Ritesh for at least 95% of people this video wouldn’t apply is what I’m saying
They need to install lineage OS to make sure the system security will keep being updated. For people who have common sense in using their smartphones (like, not recklessly opening suspicious websites), they don't need to change the stock OS. My father have the small and cheap samsung galaxy Y for 5 years now and it still performs well.
Right. The problem with installing with a lengthy multi-step process (generally speaking) is there's often a random point of failure in one of those steps that really stops the show. And you won't know what the failure is until you buy the phone and begin the process.
Oh cmon, rooting is easy, custom kernel is easy, cant do that? Buy an ifone!! 😅
What would be interesting is comparing an LG G3 (for example) with low priced smartphone like xiaomi redmi 7 (not note) or smth
Oneplus One, it goes to 5 years and is my daily mobile, it goes Buttery-Smooth with LineageOS ROM.
the nerd wearing the glasses seemed bias toward android
Why call him a nerd :(. Nerd
Don't call him nerd...that's a hate speech and people like nerd have human rights
@@BabyPiggg youre a nerd
@@mickey5515 I agree and I don't feel upset Bill Gates is Nerd,Mark Zuckerberg is nerd,Markus Persson is nerd Nerds are the ones who change the world I am proud of the fact that I am nerd
@@BabyPiggg good for you. nobody cares.
I gave my old Moto G with Lineage OS to my Dad when his Huawei died... And he's really happy with it. 👍
I still have one lying around too, but the battery seems to be broken and I really don't want to try and charge it xD
I still use an 6s. the camera is great (especially with my ztylus lens case) can IT HAS A HEADPHONE JACK.
SuperCookieGaming I still use a 6 also - would be nice to have some better internals at this point though
Then get a 6s or 7 or 8
@@peerebeer4507 not everybody has the money for that
Lol, 1 out of every 7 people I know has an iPhone 6, they are still really popular
My mom has a 6s plus and it's working perfectly for her after a battery change. I think it was one of the best iPhones around, as a Android user
I'm still waiting for Linus to address one major thing regarding the iPhone that he misses every time. The iPhone hardware is designed around the os and vice versa. The software needs to support one configuration and one only. Android versions are made so they can support your phone, your tv, your tablet, your toaster...etc. That is the biggest difference that nobody mentions ever.
If you want a phone that is a communication device first and maybe listening to some music, look up a website, consume media and you don't really care about customization and tinkering around, iPhone is the way to go. Now that you can choose between power consumption versus speed its a solid choice.
If you like to customize your phone and you want to use custom apps, use your phone as a pen drive (copy anything you want on it) and do the same things as mentioned above, then use an Android device.
It's that simple people. The video should at least mention these things at some point.
@Marioyou are missing the point here. I said that the iPhone is made for one and only one configuration. If you need an extra layer between your software and the metal then it will be by default slower. Which you need if you have different hardware. People need to chill the fuck out, enjoy their chosen device, not comparing it to others. Whatever works for you use it! That is what matters.
I don't "make it seem as if Android SoC market was that wide". Android SoC market is wide. Kirin, Exynos, Helio, Snapdragon, these are the top SOC's (every one of these actually has many products with different CPU and GPU combinations) used in Android devices and the list grows by the day.
True, but this is ltt. Most of the audience knows that already
@Mario they are not all using snapdragon some use Exynos or Cortex as well
I totally agree, I can never use modded pokemon go on iphone but on android I can go wherever I want because my android can take the heat.
Next time Jailbreak the iPhone add all the nice features then root the Android and call it a "fair" comparison
That's not fair. JB would destroy Android root completely.
The jailbroken apps on iOS far outclass anything existing on Android that it's not even a comparison anymore.
@@cunnyman But by keeping the iphone stock, he is putting it at a direct disadvantage, due to it running on stock os, an the android running on modified os.
@@felixwilkinson8954 To be fair, I understand his reasoning. At this point, the iPhone 6 was still supported by the latest OS at the time (iOS 13, whereas the G3 was running at a disadvantage using an older Android version. So by Rooting the device and installing Lineage, he evened out the playing field quite a bit. Honestly, I can also understand why the G3 performed better, its hardware is simply a lot faster than the iPhone 6. The LG G3 ran with a 2.5 Ghz Quad-Core CPU, .45-.58 Ghz GPU, 2-3 GB of RAM, whereas the iPhone 6 ran a Dual-Core 1.4 Ghz CPU, a .45 Ghz GPU, 1 GB of RAM with ALL storage variants, it's obviously clear whose the winner based on the numbers.
Kudos to the guy for recognizing and correlating the ROM to picture quality!
The same thing goes for audio too... I rooted and flashed my S4 mini with CM back in the day and the audio sounded like complete garbage over headphones. I immediately restored my stock backup and never looked back.
How to absolutely *GUARANTEE* that people see you as someone who doesn’t have a clue about smartphones :
Recommend an old LG model which is notorious for overheating, BGA failure and boot loops/screen flicker issues.
Well done Linus. GG. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
[Edit]: In February, I bought an LG G3 sold as “good condition but screen flickers”, knowing what the cause was. I only paid £40 and bought it just to play around with and see if I could fix it.
Well, about 6 or 7 hours were invested in it, and I just ABOUT got the screen flickering abated by applying a VERY crude excess heat mitigation fix using heatsink compound and a shim.
Once I was a few hours in and had been flashing various things and messing around, I remember feeling that if I didn’t stop soon I’d be feeling “the red mist rising” as I lost more time, and could have potentially allowed it to make me irritated. To cut my losses and absolutely prevent myself wasting ANY more precious time on it, I calmly and rationally smashed the screen FULL FORCE into the corner of my wooden table, multiple times, ensuring it had completely shattered. Doing this ensured I wouldn’t waste more effort or time (and maybe money in parts) on a very crappy phone. I removed the battery and casually tossed the G3 into the bin, and moved on.
Don’t regret that one bit. The phone is a lemon, and if any of you buy one then that’s, of course, your prerogative - but LG just ain’t good at smartphones, and I’d strongly counsel against it.
yeah stupid linus doesnt know literally the entire history of a boring, unsuccessful phone by a semi serious company which never played a big role in the smartphone market and was forgotten after weeks. How could he?!
Michael Kawecki I feel you intend to wilfully miss the point I made. Of all the “old” Android phones he may have picked, he chose the absolute WORST example of how NOT to properly test and manufacture (or support) a consumer mobile device - something from LG.
A trivial Google search would have indicated this phone as an outright lemon, and one which LG were taken to court over not putting right when the issues came to the fore.
Oh well, I don’t come to LTT for accuracy or detailed knowledge of anything more than plugging in cards and calling it “engineering” (as a qualified electronics engineer of 28 years myself), I come for his light hearted and good spirited nature, and for a chuckle.
I had (and still have) the LG G2 back in the day when it first came out, it was such a solid phone at the time. I believe the display was also 1440p. That was such an awesome phone, and along with all of LG's software options, there was so much to customize even back then.
I love how that other guy is just trying to find flaws in the iPhone. Then eventually he concedes that they're "equally good" hahaha
Last time I came this early, she yelled at me.
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I have a tech channel
Techive40 Ok, so what?
@@gabem1753 stfu!
I kept my G3 until a boot loop killed it. Switched to a V20 and am still rocking it. Removable batteries FTW!!
My dad did the same
Have you changed the battery for iPhone as you did for g3?
It could be limiting processor speeds because of battery degradation.
it's not an option since its a sealed back.
TheLarry for the time and effort they spent flashing a new rom on the g3, they could have purchased a battery upgrade kit (about the same price as the LGs) and upgraded in hours less then flashing.
@@fwarthest flashing took me 15minutes
@@fwarthest the iphone also cost twice as much, i think the flash work was to even out the overall investment. (time vs money)
Even if they used the battery the iPhone 6 shipped with they could’ve at least disclosed if it was in performance over battery mode
All this effort to try to bring back a phone that was mediocre at best when brand new.
IPhones are like that.
drippingwax wrong, all you have to do is power up an iPhone.
@@houstoninternationalmedia3408 Yes, please, power up your iPhone, which was mediocre at best when brand new.
drippingwax What world were you living in? This iPhone was the best phone when it came out. There was barely any good competition
@@houstoninternationalmedia3408 I live in the real world, but you seem to enjoy fantasyland just fine.