The was a TV show so year back about Delta Force titled 'The Unit' .... one of the creators ans executive producers was one of first members of Delta Force. Starred Dennis Haybert. Another badass series that got canceled
I may have come aboard a little late. Brother David what Industry do you work in 9:00am-5:00pm ?? 2nd shift ? I really don’t remember you saying what you do for a living ?
This is very misleading. There aren’t female Delta Operators, there are females in support roles attached to Delta. Not female door kickers that made it through OTC.
You’re not 100 right or wrong. There’s women shooters absolutely . Not necessarily squad members but they are definitely around and trained up very highly.
@@sonnysantana5454 sure sure they kicking down doors clearing rooms hunting isis and al qaeda ... fucken retard. THEY'RE ONLY THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE MEN THERE................ SHOW ME A WOMEN RUN OP WITH WOMEN DOOR KICKERS AND SHOOTERS AND THE MEN ARE JUST THERE TO GET CLOSE TO THE TARGET WHILE THE WOMEN SWOOP IN WITH LITTLE BIRDS.
@@bige2259 yeah we can train an 80 year old to get in close to a target in an old people home and shoot the target. sooo now according to LOW IQ people.... 80 year olds are part of delta force now. all the low iq who can't get the analogy will chime in now.
Fee corrections - they are ex-delta now contractors, referred to "grey" resources in the show. Not active duty. And those were MCX LT not "M4 and HK416".
I've been using MCX LT 11.5 inch exclusively in games since I saw the show. I did some research, and apparently MCX LT 5.56 is more accurate and more robust compared to AR 15 which was the hall mark rifle of milsim media.
When I started watching Lioness season 1 episode 1 my expectations was low but when I ended up watching it. I love it and start become a fan . It entertained some of us .
@@Tony27654the show is just humans doing shit. You lames with your dicks always in your hands (never going outside) are the ones thinking everything is a message or agenda. Your minds have nothing better to do so they constantly make shit up. Must be exhausting. Lameasses
NONE of the women in SFOD-D went through selection process that was the same as the men. They may have been through “selection” but with lowered women’s standards, if at all.
@@gregsmith3504 Of course. The closest I’ve heard to women attempting any level of “operational” status are those few that have gotten to “participate” (that’s in quotes for obvious reasons) in Ranger School and have gotten their tab but were dragged through with obviously lowered standards and re-start options but hopefully will NEVER, due to some D.E.I. bullshit, get into any position other than support (in the rear with the gear) with an operational unit.
There are women in Delta's G Squadron (AFO/Delta's Intelligence/Recon Unit) often because women are much more effective when it comes to HUMNIT compared to men specially in middle eastern countries. You are right they never went through Delta Force selection. Most of these women come from the US Cultural Support Team's Programs (which are commonly attached to green berets or Rangers) or Military Intelligence or what not. This also can be applied to DEVGRU's Black Squadron, Intelligence Support Activity too when it comes to Tier 1 units. They are used in support roles within the Tier 1 unit's intelligence squadron.
@@Raider-Multicam also if u like the unit. The actor that plays “tracer” as the delta operator in lioness is the same actor who used to play a unit operator on the unit show. Mac call sign dirt diver
Lioness was pretty good, but it was absurd how emotionally unstable she was as a Force Recon operator. Every time she went through a harsh, traumatic situation she would totally lose it, attack her superiors, have rage meltdowns. You don't get to be a special operator if you can't handle severe situations without having a mental breakdown.
*First, "Lioness" is a fictionalized story. Not such a unit exists. Also, up to this date, no US special operations units have engaged in a firefight against the Mexican military and/or police. Interestingly enough, in the first season, the CIA "Lioness" guys beat the crap out of CAG (Delta) operators in a bar fight... Yeah, "very credible." Second, while it is true that there are women in special operations, the character played by Zoe Saldaña is unrealistic. She shouts like a madwoman at high-ranking officers, disrespecting authority and command. Saldaña's screaming, bulging her veins up out of her neck, pretending to be tougher than a man, is annoying!!! No high-rank officer would take her sh*t just because she is a CIA "special operator agent." If you can overlook all that, the series is entertaining and interesting. By the way, tactics and movement are realistic, but that doesn't mean the "Lioness" series is.*
@@v.german11b If you believe that something like this doesn't exist then you def live under a rock and watch the news everyday. Female operators exist and always have
The government intervens with most Unit inspired projects. The maker of Black Hawk Down expressed this. The film had to be changed in order for it to be released. He also mentioned he wanted a movie centering on The Units role in the Atlanta Prison riot. Govt shut down the project because operators aren't suppose to operate on American soil.
Women aren’t generally put in a position to be in a gun fight situation. Could and does happen. But it’s silly to think they’d be put in that position on purpose.
Love the show, the casting was excellent. Kyle, Tracer, Tex, 2 cups look like actual sf. That shoot out scene was great because Cody (Taylor Sheridan) “get on them” comment sounds accurate and targets they hit.
One of the things that stood out to me…she’s supposed to be Apache pilot but rows up in a Blackhawk outfitted with a crazy attack setup in her first scene
I second this. Lioness, Tulsa King, Yellowstone, 1883, 1923, Mayor of Kingstown... All super entertaining with great actors, regardless of if they're accurate 100% or not. Taylor Sheridan is all over the place these days, and well deserved. I love that he also does some bit parts in some of the shows. I'm probably wrong, but I think he did great portraying his characters.
So basically Sheridan is responsible for every single good show out right now. I watched a Green Beret show on YT and they capped all over Lioness when it first came out. So I didn't watch. They spoke about it again and now doing Seal Team comparisons, so I watched and wow. It's amazing. So great to have this show now that Seal Team is over.
Hold your hand out in front of you and pretend to be holding a pistol. Swing your arm to the outside as far as you can and see how far behind you it can go. Now turn your hand upside down and see how much extra movement you can get in that arc. That would be the reason behind the technique described but whether you would actually employ it is a whole different question. Clearing a room solo maybe? If you're not worried about hitting something that you don't want dead then it could be used. You can swing your arm faster than your whole body so it might be the difference between getting a shot off before they do.
I was in the 160th SOAR and think it was a very accurate depiction of all involved. It’s unrealistic to expect 100% perfection from “Hollywood “. Some of the helo scenes were cheesy and could use some touching up but overall it’s an awesome show and the characters were very good at what they were trying to portray. IMO 🇺🇸💪🏼
Great show but outdated. Remember “delta is a unit that doesn’t exist.” Well cats out of the bag, the unit do exist. I don’t think they cover under something like the 303rd logistical studies group anymore. The unit was great show for its time. I like it more than seal team. Here is a fun fact, an executive producer for the unit is named Shawn Ryan and he also is for seal team as well. He is probably their military advisor too. And no it’s not the same SR from SRS. Another reason why the unit is better than Devgru. They had cool ass call signs! Cool breeze, snake doc, dirt diver, Betty blue, hammer head and whiplash.
@@FMD023 I've heard for a long time that Delta "officially doesn't exist" and I think that's pure nonsense, both now and 20 years ago. I think when people heard the government's policy of "we do not comment on special operations", they took that as denial of their existence, when really it's just a refusal to confirm or deny any question about them.
The portion of that show when they are in the shoot house he is trying to teach her about reactive shooting and bio mechanics. There are many times in CQB where there is a barrier or reason of limitation where you are not able to fully present and engage your threat (more of a react to threat and move, dynamic versus static threat). This is more of a lesson and confidence builder. Not necessarily teaching of an SOP on how to engage and clear targets.
Paramount+ with the MC of a *DELTA FORCE* being a woman... No, this show is not accurate... There are women in SOF, they are mot the majority and likely would not be selected for this type of work...
Lioness and Seal 🎉Team are my 2 favorite shows. Lioness for sure! Is my favorite TV Show! Taylor Sheridan is by far one of my favorite writers/producers. This show is AWESOME! Beware of the "Old Soldier they are old for a reason" Outstanding Bad Ass Show!!
YOU NEED TO CLARIFY THIS. special operations community includes support personnel. Yes, there have been a couple female green berets but only a very very small handful. Probably less than 10 have qualified and even fewer actuallybwere on a team. There are NO KNOWN female delta force operators. Though there have been females ATTACHED to delta. Just because someone is "special operations" doesn't mean they are an operator. Please need to be careful with your wording because you're implying misleading or wrong info
When Cruz re-hooked up with the team, a male operator asked what she had been up to, and he asked “Orange?”, to which she replied “No, Green” (implying CAG). Thought it would have been more believable that she was tasked to Orange. Especially since she was trained by Ground Branch.
@338684q Two different units. Task Force Orange or ISA or whatever they call themselves now are an independent intelligence gathering unit in JSOC. Ultimately they support Delta, DEVGRU and 75th Regimental Recon and have their own independent missions.
These characters are not portraying current Delta, CAG or SF they are part of a CIA team S.A.D. They were previously obviously, at one time part of one of those groups but not at this time in the show. They are doing Black Ops and Wetwork. That's why they all need to be discharged before joining S.A.D.
One thing visually about those episodes tho was the actors appeared to be visually looking through the riser as opposed to the actual optic haha but man I love this show it's my new favorite since seal team ended
One thing that really bothered me about season 2, is how the pilot is supposed to be an Apache pilot. Yet when we get introduced to her, she’s flying a Blackhawk.
First and foremost, The show is a TV show. Its a fictional work of art which consists of drama and action for entertainment. Creative liberties are always taken to maintain attention. Shout out to the real female service members that performed their difficult duties with honor. Thank you for your service. This is the wiki info from the first lines on the page of Team Lioness: "female United States Marines attached to combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan. They were utilized to respect local customs regarding the prohibition of men touching or searching local women during operations." From the research I have done and not in any way discredit their service. Their role was exactly that. To give an intelligence dynamic for gathering that males would have difficulties obtaining. They had a special purpose just like other special operation units like the USAF Special reconnaissance, which is to not to kick in doors to eliminate the enemy even though they have that capacity. As for "Lionesses" to be trained on multiple weapon systems to the capability of offensive direct action is a stretch imo because of the purpose of the Lioness mission. Sure being trained and knowledgeable on multiple weapon systems is understandable for self defense and the in-field encounters. To my understanding, for a Lioness having to resort to a special weapon system means a security failure or intelligence failure occurred because that's what delta is for or a SMU. Lionesses are a piece on the same chess board that delta, SMU, GRS are on for their purpose to be utilized effectively.
You are 100% correct on your assessment of the show except on the part about the Kill House Scene where the Delta Shooter is teaching the New Lioness how to CQB and he explained that where will be times where if you have a Target behind you the shoot has to be taken quickly and the best way to do so is to engage straight back and that will get the weapon upside down. Delta, DevGru and Recon Marines are taught to shoot from any position and from any angle and that sometimes is with the weapon upside down. Now the Kill House Scene also takes a second to talk about using Optics on Pistols which make handgun shooting a little easier once you get used to the Optic on the Pistol.
Fun fact, “tracer” is the same actor that plays a unit operator on a great show back then called the unit. Call sign dirt diver. Taylor is known to show is love for unit guys. Go watch Sacario and if u paid attention. There is a line that Joe said that was a call back to that movie. Taylor wrote sacario for those that didn’t know
Highly recommend the French TV Series "Dark Hearts". Super impressive. Recommended to a friend who served and he says it's the most accurate SF show he's seen. Good story and believe-able.
The last 2 episodes was pretty bad when it come to shoot house tactics and the over emotional screaming and tryna push the “alpha female” or over emotional screaming. That was off.
I love the show. My biggest issue is the fire rate of some of the weapons used. Taylor’s MCX-SPEAR LT fire rate is WAY too fast. It’s buzzing at like 1200 rpm.
It is, the guys on Joe's team are not active duty Delta. They are all retired/discharged. In the show they mention they are part of CIA Ground Branch so based off that their job title is "CIA Paramilitary operator". They also mention Joe is a Senior Case Agent who answers directly to the CIA Director of SOG so she has quite a bit of pull.
It is a TV Show, everyone calm down, it is fictional... Just watch and enjoy it, and yes there are cringe moments but very few, but once again it is a TV Show...
One of the reasons special forces are so successful at what they do is the high degree of coordination among the team. In other words each member of the team has specific predesignated targets agreed upon before the first shot is fired. This way they can take out all the enemy combatants with as few shots fired as possible which also aids in how fast they can execute the operation. This also has the added benefit of minimizing reaction times for the combatants. In most cases it is over before any enemy combatant has had time to process what is going on. This has to do with how people process a rapid explosion of activity when they were accustomed to the calm and quite just moments prior to this. This is why the flash bang grenades were developed in the first place, they overwhelm the senses with light and sound and create a state of confusion for several seconds which is all a highly trained team needs to disable them.
If you put your hand upside down while going around a corner. Its the way your wrist sets. Because you are running by so your knuckle is where the round goes. As it was explained clearly in the show. If you run across with your wrist erected. You will notice that your flow of motion as you run across. With your hand straight is not fluid. Therefore having your gun upside down but your knuckle faced where you need to out the round. Is more fluid. As when you bring your hand back to the resdy position as you are currently running. It sets in the correct position more fluid and quicker. Run across your hall way into the bathroom. Try it both ways you will see how that feels. Hope i explained it correctly. Also, plenty of google searches will show you this technique. So its on the internet you know it must be true. Hooyah!!! SWCC Boat Team 22 im Audi5000G your welcome
Question: in two man room clearing, is it normal for while man one is cornering into the room, man two is sprinting straight into the room uncontrollably towards a wall while shooting behind them? Seems like a terrible way to enter a room.
@weaponeer8582 into a room? I never said into a room. I said running by, if you don't know what I mean. By running by an opening to cover on the other side. Then either I can't explain correctly, or you not understanding what I'm saying. Either way brother I'm Audi5000G God Bless
@ thanks for answering but I’m talking about in episode 3 of season 2 where Bobby was teaching Josephine how to assist in clearing the room as the 2nd man. She rushed through the door in the middle of the room, runs straight into the far wall while firing back and to the right. It just seemed like a bad technique.
First and foremost, this collection of shooters are not "Delta Force Operators". These individuals are part of Ground Branch (now division), of the CIA's Special Activities Center. They engage in combat actions under USC Title 50 (Intelligence & Covert Action) versus USC Title 10 (Military Forces). SAC pulls most of their personnel from Tier 1 level units found in Joint Special Activities Command. However once a part of SAC, their classic military role has ended. In the TV program, their appearance is problematic. The last thing they want is to look like would be a bunch of bikers shooting up a locale. They are clandestine operators who make every effort to avoid detection even when entering into a firefight. Can they shoot that well? Most can make amazing shots, but even the worst gunman or police officer can land a lucky shot or two and make a successful operation that much more difficult. The "Third Option" is quiet but lethal.
That’s not who he was talking about. The character Taylor Sheridan plays, the character Max Martini plays, and the operator who dies in the Rio Grande scene are Delta. You need to actually watch the show then watch this video again and pay attention to what he says. He clearly states the few guys that augment the CIA team are the Delta operators.
Here’s a useless fact - Max Martini, who plays Tracer in season 2, Played Mack in the hit TV show that was also on CBS called The Unit….which followed a Delta Force Unit. Talk about a round about way for Max to reprise his role as a D Boy
saw the first episode of season 1... the scrawny "lioness" with noodle arms and no back development did 19 pull ups at marine basic training.... yeah right. Rhonda rousey and gina carano CAN'T DO 10. INTEL AND SUPPORT ATTACHMENTS.... ARE NOT TIER 1. if she was BUILT like a crossfit girl.... then i can BELIEVE IT.
I would say after the authenticity of Seal Team, as described by Tyler Grey, people are now used to seeing the real deal and can spot substandard weapons handling etc and it takes them out of the show or they lose interest. Certainly ex-military would notice.
There are no women special forces, theyre women who are attached to a special forces unit for support. There are women who arent designated delta but are assigned to a delta force squad for again specific mission and support. And they do not look like the toothpick Columbiana chick.
@@Sonnenrad88 I dont know what the hell the show is about but real life shelane etchinson completed the direct support pipeline for a army smu and had numerous deployments with them
@thatonescytheguy9077 not special forces, went through and female version with lowered standards and allowed to repeat the course more then standard disqualifiers
Actually that was an initial misconception. It was the FBIs HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), who are a Tier-1 domestic special operations unit that is based on Delta and a near perfect mirror image of the unit.
recoil management is also more challenging inverted. Unless you are supine, or otherwise inverted, I don't know why you'd fire the weapon that way either.
I used to work with a ex british sas.He said women trained with them. They were sent from other agencies that mainly do intelligence work to learn from them..After training they went back to their units.Dont know if delta did the same.
The only thing that stood out to me from the series, is how they act towards each other, like it’s all pretty aggressive even within the team. I find it hard to believe that that is true, maybe some have beef but they seem to be looking for beef! Also how the main character absolutely smacks the shit out of another dude, I wonder if that is something that happens a lot or even at all! Since you need to trust your team so why would you beef with your squad!
Hey love your channel! Question; could you do one on the men and women in the armory that put together all the specialized weapons that our special operators use, including any special requests that an operator may have for a specific operation?
I have zero interest in this show. I’m tired of the media making movies/shows about women in special forces. Unique covert situations sure. Running full kit like they are part of a direct action unit. No! Also can you cast a women built like a tall ifbb bikini pro and say they use to fight in the ufc if we are going to act like they can actually stand a chance with a man in a fight.
Loved the show, but mu biggest issue was yhe introduction of the pilot. They explained how shes a big time appache pilot and she shows up in a black hawk, then at the end they talk about getting her an apache bit cant and shes back in the black hawk.
Lioness isn't an accurate portrayal of anyone in sf and I love women, but anyone when something happens how many times does your wife check it out unless baby crying 90% of police, military, logging, mechanics, fire people,government, contractors, doctors, warehouse, architects,steel workers, etc.etc please ‼️⁉️🔥⚰🤳🚔😇🙏🤙🤑🎯🔫🌉🏄♂️✝️🇺🇸
Question RE: Lioness. I recently viewed the series and remember someone on your podcast say that the Delta aspects seemed accurate. I am curious about the cyclic rate of the rifles they carry. It seems very fast, like Mac11 fast. Is this realistic or just Hollywood? Seems like it would empty magazines FAST. Thank you.
Seems it was predictive programming, based on recent developments. Also funny that it seems every show of this type in the last couple years has been a female lead.
Bob Baer talks about his wife as a CIA operative taking a six month shooting class. They were both in the CIA. You can find videos of him speaking on RUclips & on two of the three alternative commentary tracks of the RED bluray.
LOVE the Lioness series! There are probably some badass women like Jo, but they are the minority. Not anti-female, just a fact women are different. I know because I am one LOL.
David... Please take down "Red Dawn" remake DVD holder and put up the original 1984 version. That was a HORRIBLE remake and it should have never been made, approved and released!
Who cares. It's TV. If I'm in the military, I wouldn't allow realistic tactics, equipment, and operational procedures on a show cidicated for public consumption. That's stupid.
It's a fun show, however I take issue with how Jo, the main character, treats other people, especially regular old military types. All of her screaming and chest thumping is nonsense. As a Marine, and an ops chief in various FOB's throughout Iraq, I dealt with many spec ops types that would role through, stay for awhile and move on. Some I understood who they were with, and occasionally I would not. Didn't matter, we would support them as required. What they did not do was disrespect the battle space owners once they showed up. They were always respectful and a pleasure to work with in most cases. It doesn't matter who you are, you just don't show up, demand things, and disrespect the CO in front of his men; it won't go well, that's just Hollywood nonsense.
Pistol CQB is primed and unprimed. Primed something isn't right your weapon is in the ready. Unprimed your in standing mode and you have to draw and react. Many shooters have strong side and weak side but in true CQB fashion you have right side and a left and your weapon skills are equal which you must build and maintain. The the other guy have strong and weak it increases your % of survival. The upside down shooting refers to firing one handed around hard cover. Some people are really good at OFF skills or unique shooting techniques but those skills aren't made up. Through trial and error do they develop and operators us long gun only a handful us sidearms.
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I like the tv show, “the unit” better, it’s a show on prime video I think it’s more realistic they had entire episode about sere training
The was a TV show so year back about Delta Force titled 'The Unit' .... one of the creators ans executive producers was one of first members of Delta Force. Starred Dennis Haybert. Another badass series that got canceled
I may have come aboard a little late.
Brother David what
Industry do you work in 9:00am-5:00pm ?? 2nd shift ?
I really don’t remember you saying what you do for a living ?
The first season was okay with some questionable things but season 2 is pretty freaking legit, Taylor definitely stepped his shit up
You must be kidding
@@bender_cigarlet’s hear your perspective. Not being a d**k, but serious. Was never in the military so interested in hearing opinions on this show.
This is very misleading. There aren’t female Delta Operators, there are females in support roles attached to Delta. Not female door kickers that made it through OTC.
She isn't Delta in the show, she is a CIA agent part of the Special Activities Center.
@@sovereigninternationalresp1366 I’m talking about when David said “Yes there are females in Delta.”
@@MrD1981 read my other reply
What’s your favorite keyboard brand?
You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t everyone with Delta called an “Operator”? The “door kickers” are referred to as “Assaulters”.
"there are women in special forces..." yeah but they are not shooters and door kickers.
you don't get
out much do you the Ivan's and the jews aren't the only ones who use high heeled killers
You’re not 100 right or wrong. There’s women shooters absolutely . Not necessarily squad members but they are definitely around and trained up very highly.
@@sonnysantana5454 sure sure they kicking down doors clearing rooms hunting isis and al qaeda ... fucken retard. THEY'RE ONLY THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE MEN THERE................ SHOW ME A WOMEN RUN OP WITH WOMEN DOOR KICKERS AND SHOOTERS AND THE MEN ARE JUST THERE TO GET CLOSE TO THE TARGET WHILE THE WOMEN SWOOP IN WITH LITTLE BIRDS.
Yeah I’m not sure there are female assaulters in DELTA or other Tier 1 units. Even Tier 2.
@@bige2259 yeah we can train an 80 year old to get in close to a target in an old people home and shoot the target. sooo now according to LOW IQ people.... 80 year olds are part of delta force now. all the low iq who can't get the analogy will chime in now.
Fee corrections - they are ex-delta now contractors, referred to "grey" resources in the show. Not active duty. And those were MCX LT not "M4 and HK416".
Were those ex delta guys part of ground branch in the show?
@ no. Contractors.
@@DanielCohen-i7w Copy that
@@RiddickMaximusyes!
I've been using MCX LT 11.5 inch exclusively in games since I saw the show. I did some research, and apparently MCX LT 5.56 is more accurate and more robust compared to AR 15 which was the hall mark rifle of milsim media.
Love the show. Found it two months ago and blew thru it so fast. Every show Taylor does is a winner. I’m waiting for terminal
List 2 to come out.
When I started watching Lioness season 1 episode 1 my expectations was low but when I ended up watching it. I love it and start become a fan . It entertained some of us .
Women as Delta operators, and that lesbian who always acts tough, nothing more than a cringe fest. But I like the show. That’s my only gripe.
I won’t watch it because of the message
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stop giving your attention to made up ridiculous bullshit not based in reality, it just emboldens them
turn off the TV and try to get out more and get a little crazy and read a book
@@Tony27654the show is just humans doing shit. You lames with your dicks always in your hands (never going outside) are the ones thinking everything is a message or agenda. Your minds have nothing better to do so they constantly make shit up. Must be exhausting. Lameasses
this show is more about the CIA Special Activities and Delta kill teams which the CIA has their own and they are not all Delta guys
There’s no better series than “The unit”
Was a good series. There's at least one actor from the Unit in Lioness.
@@stevegrifftx Max Martini.
@@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 thanks
Good show but seal team is on a different lvl atleast the early seasons.
FIRED UP! Loved that show! Hate that it ended.
NONE of the women in SFOD-D went through selection process that was the same as the men. They may have been through “selection” but with lowered women’s standards, if at all.
You mean the women in support roles in CAG? Cause I’m pretty sure no women are operators in CAG.
@@gregsmith3504 Of course. The closest I’ve heard to women attempting any level of “operational” status are those few that have gotten to “participate” (that’s in quotes for obvious reasons) in Ranger School and have gotten their tab but were dragged through with obviously lowered standards and re-start options but hopefully will NEVER, due to some D.E.I. bullshit, get into any position other than support (in the rear with the gear) with an operational unit.
There are women in Delta's G Squadron (AFO/Delta's Intelligence/Recon Unit) often because women are much more effective when it comes to HUMNIT compared to men specially in middle eastern countries. You are right they never went through Delta Force selection.
Most of these women come from the US Cultural Support Team's Programs (which are commonly attached to green berets or Rangers) or Military Intelligence or what not.
This also can be applied to DEVGRU's Black Squadron, Intelligence Support Activity too when it comes to Tier 1 units. They are used in support roles within the Tier 1 unit's intelligence squadron.
Season 2 episode 1.. only thing to remember is you sign up to not have air support. Don’t ever expect that bird to save you.
Lioness and Seal Team are my 2 top shows on TV lately. I dont get too caught on the tactics I just enjoy the overall.
Agreed don't miss an episode...
You’re watching fake ridiculous brainrot bullshit btw
The unit is better then seal team while s2 of lioness is fun to watch
@@FMD023 Agree
@@Raider-Multicam also if u like the unit. The actor that plays “tracer” as the delta operator in lioness is the same actor who used to play a unit operator on the unit show. Mac call sign dirt diver
They weren't carrying M4's they were carrying Sig Sauer spears.
Was gonna comment this
Weren't there a bunch of Rattlers too?
@@TBendeznaw just sig spear lts 11.5 inch barrel
And the fire rate of the LT’s are way too high on the show.
@@RynOstate That's why I thought it was Rattler's...
Lioness was pretty good, but it was absurd how emotionally unstable she was as a Force Recon operator. Every time she went through a harsh, traumatic situation she would totally lose it, attack her superiors, have rage meltdowns. You don't get to be a special operator if you can't handle severe situations without having a mental breakdown.
Play a game, take a shot every time David says "Delta" or "Delta Force.
Just make sure u have a buddy to pick u up from the drunk tank in the morning.
*First, "Lioness" is a fictionalized story. Not such a unit exists. Also, up to this date, no US special operations units have engaged in a firefight against the Mexican military and/or police. Interestingly enough, in the first season, the CIA "Lioness" guys beat the crap out of CAG (Delta) operators in a bar fight... Yeah, "very credible." Second, while it is true that there are women in special operations, the character played by Zoe Saldaña is unrealistic. She shouts like a madwoman at high-ranking officers, disrespecting authority and command. Saldaña's screaming, bulging her veins up out of her neck, pretending to be tougher than a man, is annoying!!! No high-rank officer would take her sh*t just because she is a CIA "special operator agent." If you can overlook all that, the series is entertaining and interesting. By the way, tactics and movement are realistic, but that doesn't mean the "Lioness" series is.*
You really have no idea do you, can you name every "mission" that was covert? There are "ghost units" IYKYK
@JackB_Nimble1 If you believe that Lionesses is real-life, then you probably believe "Game of Thrones" is based on the actual event.
@@v.german11b If you believe that something like this doesn't exist then you def live under a rock and watch the news everyday. Female operators exist and always have
Tone it down a notch, bud.
Much of this is not accurate. And Jo plays a CIA C/O who "handles" the female military officers that she deploys to "get next to" targets.
The government intervens with most Unit inspired projects. The maker of Black Hawk Down expressed this. The film had to be changed in order for it to be released. He also mentioned he wanted a movie centering on The Units role in the Atlanta Prison riot. Govt shut down the project because operators aren't suppose to operate on American soil.
And yet there are numerous times they have.
Elbows deep @@Ripper13F1V
Cool. You got any references to this? I like to dig in more?
The Atlanta riots very true but as far as them operating on US soil that's CIA allegedly who can't but even that's not true at all
@@ssgtomen621 Don't quote me but maybe "Relentless Strike" by Sean Naylor mentions some of this stuff. I really can't remember where I got the info.
One of the best shows out for sure. That shootout scene reminded me of Sicario 2 at the border
That’s probably because Sicario is also a product of Taylor Sheridan.
Women aren’t generally put in a position to be in a gun fight situation. Could and does happen. But it’s silly to think they’d be put in that position on purpose.
Love the show, the casting was excellent. Kyle, Tracer, Tex, 2 cups look like actual sf. That shoot out scene was great because Cody (Taylor Sheridan) “get on them” comment sounds accurate and targets they hit.
One of the things that stood out to me…she’s supposed to be Apache pilot but rows up in a Blackhawk outfitted with a crazy attack setup in her first scene
The show is actually pretty good, Sheridan has a gift for making his projects entertaining regardless of how technically accurate they may be.
This is so accurate lol. No matter how many times I roll my eyes at things in his shows I keep coming back lol.
So is the show worth a watch gump ?
@@JoeyB44for sure
I second this. Lioness, Tulsa King, Yellowstone, 1883, 1923, Mayor of Kingstown... All super entertaining with great actors, regardless of if they're accurate 100% or not. Taylor Sheridan is all over the place these days, and well deserved. I love that he also does some bit parts in some of the shows. I'm probably wrong, but I think he did great portraying his characters.
So basically Sheridan is responsible for every single good show out right now. I watched a Green Beret show on YT and they capped all over Lioness when it first came out. So I didn't watch. They spoke about it again and now doing Seal Team comparisons, so I watched and wow. It's amazing. So great to have this show now that Seal Team is over.
Hold your hand out in front of you and pretend to be holding a pistol. Swing your arm to the outside as far as you can and see how far behind you it can go. Now turn your hand upside down and see how much extra movement you can get in that arc. That would be the reason behind the technique described but whether you would actually employ it is a whole different question. Clearing a room solo maybe? If you're not worried about hitting something that you don't want dead then it could be used. You can swing your arm faster than your whole body so it might be the difference between getting a shot off before they do.
I just tried it but got the exact same turning distance with my hand turned either way.
I was in the 160th SOAR and think it was a very accurate depiction of all involved. It’s unrealistic to expect 100% perfection from “Hollywood “. Some of the helo scenes were cheesy and could use some touching up but overall it’s an awesome show and the characters were very good at what they were trying to portray. IMO 🇺🇸💪🏼
The main difference between the Unit and SAD is that the Unit can't do Title 50 missions typically.
There is not one woman who has made it through any Delta Force or Seal Team operator schools.
The Unit is supposed to have the most accurate portrayal on TV and film. Based on Eric Haney's book.
Inside The Delta Force. Eric Haney. He was a Ranger then went into SFOD1. There is a good non fiction book about Task Force Orange, ISA.
The Unit is still my favorite tv show after all these years.
Great show but outdated. Remember “delta is a unit that doesn’t exist.” Well cats out of the bag, the unit do exist. I don’t think they cover under something like the 303rd logistical studies group anymore. The unit was great show for its time. I like it more than seal team. Here is a fun fact, an executive producer for the unit is named Shawn Ryan and he also is for seal team as well. He is probably their military advisor too. And no it’s not the same SR from SRS. Another reason why the unit is better than Devgru. They had cool ass call signs! Cool breeze, snake doc, dirt diver, Betty blue, hammer head and whiplash.
@@FMD023 I've heard for a long time that Delta "officially doesn't exist" and I think that's pure nonsense, both now and 20 years ago. I think when people heard the government's policy of "we do not comment on special operations", they took that as denial of their existence, when really it's just a refusal to confirm or deny any question about them.
EP and Co-Creator of “The Unit” Shawn Ryan is also the EP and Co-Creator of the revival “S.W.A.T” series. He was not involved with “SEAL Team”.
The portion of that show when they are in the shoot house he is trying to teach her about reactive shooting and bio mechanics. There are many times in CQB where there is a barrier or reason of limitation where you are not able to fully present and engage your threat (more of a react to threat and move, dynamic versus static threat). This is more of a lesson and confidence builder. Not necessarily teaching of an SOP on how to engage and clear targets.
Paramount+ with the MC of a *DELTA FORCE* being a woman...
No, this show is not accurate...
There are women in SOF, they are mot the majority and likely would not be selected for this type of work...
Lioness and Seal 🎉Team are my 2 favorite shows. Lioness for sure! Is my favorite TV Show! Taylor Sheridan is by far one of my favorite writers/producers. This show is AWESOME! Beware of the "Old Soldier they are old for a reason" Outstanding Bad Ass Show!!
YOU NEED TO CLARIFY THIS. special operations community includes support personnel. Yes, there have been a couple female green berets but only a very very small handful. Probably less than 10 have qualified and even fewer actuallybwere on a team. There are NO KNOWN female delta force operators. Though there have been females ATTACHED to delta. Just because someone is "special operations" doesn't mean they are an operator. Please need to be careful with your wording because you're implying misleading or wrong info
When Cruz re-hooked up with the team, a male operator asked what she had been up to, and he asked “Orange?”, to which she replied “No, Green” (implying CAG). Thought it would have been more believable that she was tasked to Orange.
Especially since she was trained by Ground Branch.
didnt orange have delta as well
@@338684qI believe orange has everybody, they are highly specialized with distinct skill sets and I’m sure they draw from wherever the talent is.
@@338684q orange is another tier 1 smu. Green is delta and blue is ST6.
She's obviously joined the unit as a sniper. Female snipers in support roles aren't unheard of
@338684q Two different units. Task Force Orange or ISA or whatever they call themselves now are an independent intelligence gathering unit in JSOC. Ultimately they support Delta, DEVGRU and 75th Regimental Recon and have their own independent missions.
These characters are not portraying current Delta, CAG or SF they are part of a CIA team S.A.D. They were previously obviously, at one time part of one of those groups but not at this time in the show. They are doing Black Ops and Wetwork. That's why they all need to be discharged before joining S.A.D.
One thing visually about those episodes tho was the actors appeared to be visually looking through the riser as opposed to the actual optic haha but man I love this show it's my new favorite since seal team ended
If you really watch the show, they clearly say their CIA Special Activities Division.
The action in Lioness S2 is much better that Seal team. They need to remake the Unit with Sheridan in the lead role.
One thing that really bothered me about season 2, is how the pilot is supposed to be an Apache pilot. Yet when we get introduced to her, she’s flying a Blackhawk.
First and foremost, The show is a TV show. Its a fictional work of art which consists of drama and action for entertainment. Creative liberties are always taken to maintain attention. Shout out to the real female service members that performed their difficult duties with honor. Thank you for your service. This is the wiki info from the first lines on the page of Team Lioness: "female United States Marines attached to combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan. They were utilized to respect local customs regarding the prohibition of men touching or searching local women during operations." From the research I have done and not in any way discredit their service. Their role was exactly that. To give an intelligence dynamic for gathering that males would have difficulties obtaining. They had a special purpose just like other special operation units like the USAF Special reconnaissance, which is to not to kick in doors to eliminate the enemy even though they have that capacity. As for "Lionesses" to be trained on multiple weapon systems to the capability of offensive direct action is a stretch imo because of the purpose of the Lioness mission. Sure being trained and knowledgeable on multiple weapon systems is understandable for self defense and the in-field encounters. To my understanding, for a Lioness having to resort to a special weapon system means a security failure or intelligence failure occurred because that's what delta is for or a SMU. Lionesses are a piece on the same chess board that delta, SMU, GRS are on for their purpose to be utilized effectively.
You are 100% correct on your assessment of the show except on the part about the Kill House Scene where the Delta Shooter is teaching the New Lioness how to CQB and he explained that where will be times where if you have a Target behind you the shoot has to be taken quickly and the best way to do so is to engage straight back and that will get the weapon upside down. Delta, DevGru and Recon Marines are taught to shoot from any position and from any angle and that sometimes is with the weapon upside down. Now the Kill House Scene also takes a second to talk about using Optics on Pistols which make handgun shooting a little easier once you get used to the Optic on the Pistol.
Lioness. What a great show. 🇺🇲 💪💪
It’s a great show. The women are not delta they are cia. The one woman who is spec op is a sniper
Fun fact, “tracer” is the same actor that plays a unit operator on a great show back then called the unit. Call sign dirt diver. Taylor is known to show is love for unit guys. Go watch Sacario and if u paid attention. There is a line that Joe said that was a call back to that movie. Taylor wrote sacario for those that didn’t know
I love Lioness...Great show!!
The well produced Lioness show is social engineering to program us that females are equally fearsome & skilled warriors just like men.
Highly recommend the French TV Series "Dark Hearts". Super impressive. Recommended to a friend who served and he says it's the most accurate SF show he's seen. Good story and believe-able.
@martinmurtagh3221 Apparently you can't watch Dark hearts in America.i can't find a platform to watch it on
Lost me at French TV series.
Where can you get it,im in Africa, its hard to see
I have seen episode 1 only
@ I don't know if it's a series as such. After the first 6 parts you'll be craving more. No spoilers. 😃
@@ayodamolaolusanya7213 BBC IPlayer have it in the UK. Maybe if you have a VPN you can check it out.
Taylor Sheridan is putting out some really good TV Shows!
And some really bad ones. He has the fatal tendency to pander to the audience which frequently turns his shows into cringe.
Your, honest, critique makes me want to give a second chance.
The last 2 episodes was pretty bad when it come to shoot house tactics and the over emotional screaming and tryna push the “alpha female” or over emotional screaming. That was off.
With all due respect, only delta operators can comment on delta’s CQB tactics
I love the show. My biggest issue is the fire rate of some of the weapons used. Taylor’s MCX-SPEAR LT fire rate is WAY too fast. It’s buzzing at like 1200 rpm.
I thought Lioness is about a CIA-SAD/SOG Taskforce
It is, the guys on Joe's team are not active duty Delta. They are all retired/discharged. In the show they mention they are part of CIA Ground Branch so based off that their job title is "CIA Paramilitary operator". They also mention Joe is a Senior Case Agent who answers directly to the CIA Director of SOG so she has quite a bit of pull.
It is a TV Show, everyone calm down, it is fictional... Just watch and enjoy it, and yes there are cringe moments but very few, but once again it is a TV Show...
I think they are running SIG spears ...no more HK416s
@@peteholliday8455 Correct
Sig Spear LT
A buddy of mine works on this show doing all the rigging for electrical and lighting.
One of the reasons special forces are so successful at what they do is the high degree of coordination among the team. In other words each member of the team has specific predesignated targets agreed upon before the first shot is fired. This way they can take out all the enemy combatants with as few shots fired as possible which also aids in how fast they can execute the operation. This also has the added benefit of minimizing reaction times for the combatants. In most cases it is over before any enemy combatant has had time to process what is going on. This has to do with how people process a rapid explosion of activity when they were accustomed to the calm and quite just moments prior to this. This is why the flash bang grenades were developed in the first place, they overwhelm the senses with light and sound and create a state of confusion for several seconds which is all a highly trained team needs to disable them.
I'm loving how Latino's are being represented and our love to our country!!!
If you put your hand upside down while going around a corner. Its the way your wrist sets. Because you are running by so your knuckle is where the round goes. As it was explained clearly in the show. If you run across with your wrist erected. You will notice that your flow of motion as you run across. With your hand straight is not fluid. Therefore having your gun upside down but your knuckle faced where you need to out the round. Is more fluid. As when you bring your hand back to the resdy position as you are currently running. It sets in the correct position more fluid and quicker.
Run across your hall way into the bathroom. Try it both ways you will see how that feels. Hope i explained it correctly.
Also, plenty of google searches will show you this technique. So its on the internet you know it must be true.
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Question: in two man room clearing, is it normal for while man one is cornering into the room, man two is sprinting straight into the room uncontrollably towards a wall while shooting behind them? Seems like a terrible way to enter a room.
@weaponeer8582 into a room? I never said into a room. I said running by, if you don't know what I mean. By running by an opening to cover on the other side. Then either I can't explain correctly, or you not understanding what I'm saying. Either way brother I'm Audi5000G
God Bless
@ thanks for answering but I’m talking about in episode 3 of season 2 where Bobby was teaching Josephine how to assist in clearing the room as the 2nd man. She rushed through the door in the middle of the room, runs straight into the far wall while firing back and to the right. It just seemed like a bad technique.
Love this show. It's the only reason I subsribed to Paramount+ and will end my subscription when I'm done with the season. Lol
7:19...that's how it's done in the hood my friend! 😂😂😂
First and foremost, this collection of shooters are not "Delta Force Operators". These individuals are part of Ground Branch (now division), of the CIA's Special Activities Center. They engage in combat actions under USC Title 50 (Intelligence & Covert Action) versus USC Title 10 (Military Forces). SAC pulls most of their personnel from Tier 1 level units found in Joint Special Activities Command. However once a part of SAC, their classic military role has ended. In the TV program, their appearance is problematic. The last thing they want is to look like would be a bunch of bikers shooting up a locale. They are clandestine operators who make every effort to avoid detection even when entering into a firefight. Can they shoot that well? Most can make amazing shots, but even the worst gunman or police officer can land a lucky shot or two and make a successful operation that much more difficult. The "Third Option" is quiet but lethal.
That’s not who he was talking about. The character Taylor Sheridan plays, the character Max Martini plays, and the operator who dies in the Rio Grande scene are Delta. You need to actually watch the show then watch this video again and pay attention to what he says. He clearly states the few guys that augment the CIA team are the Delta operators.
Here’s a useless fact - Max Martini, who plays Tracer in season 2, Played Mack in the hit TV show that was also on CBS called The Unit….which followed a Delta Force Unit. Talk about a round about way for Max to reprise his role as a D Boy
Don't believe everything you see and hear on the telli and internet. Some things are meant to be questioned.
saw the first episode of season 1... the scrawny "lioness" with noodle arms and no back development did 19 pull ups at marine basic training.... yeah right. Rhonda rousey and gina carano CAN'T DO 10. INTEL AND SUPPORT ATTACHMENTS.... ARE NOT TIER 1. if she was BUILT like a crossfit girl.... then i can BELIEVE IT.
I wish they would’ve put a different female actress. I can’t stand that chick. I’d rather see Rosario Dawson
I would say after the authenticity of Seal Team, as described by Tyler Grey, people are now used to seeing the real deal and can spot substandard weapons handling etc and it takes them out of the show or they lose interest. Certainly ex-military would notice.
There are no women special forces, theyre women who are attached to a special forces unit for support. There are women who arent designated delta but are assigned to a delta force squad for again specific mission and support. And they do not look like the toothpick Columbiana chick.
well they are still in delta...they have SQI for SMU, now they arent operators tho but still CSS or G sqdn support they are still inside the smu
@thatonescytheguy9077 doesn't make them spec ops nor whatever bullshit feminist romance tv show maker Tyler sherridan created here
@@Sonnenrad88 I dont know what the hell the show is about but real life shelane etchinson completed the direct support pipeline for a army smu and had numerous deployments with them
@thatonescytheguy9077 not special forces, went through and female version with lowered standards and allowed to repeat the course more then standard disqualifiers
The first woman in swcc Navy seals
Delta was in Waco, TX during when ATF went after the Branch Davidians raid went south.
Actually that was an initial misconception. It was the FBIs HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), who are a Tier-1 domestic special operations unit that is based on Delta and a near perfect mirror image of the unit.
recoil management is also more challenging inverted. Unless you are supine, or otherwise inverted, I don't know why you'd fire the weapon that way either.
I used to work with a ex british sas.He said women trained with them. They were sent from other agencies that mainly do intelligence work to learn from them..After training they went back to their units.Dont know if delta did the same.
Dudes rocking a micro with a magnifier
The only thing that stood out to me from the series, is how they act towards each other, like it’s all pretty aggressive even within the team. I find it hard to believe that that is true, maybe some have beef but they seem to be looking for beef! Also how the main character absolutely smacks the shit out of another dude, I wonder if that is something that happens a lot or even at all! Since you need to trust your team so why would you beef with your squad!
There are bad ass door kicker women in special forces that can take out any men in the world BUT only in Hollywood !!
Hey love your channel! Question; could you do one on the men and women in the armory that put together all the specialized weapons that our special operators use, including any special requests that an operator may have for a specific operation?
7:24 Blindspot cornershot for entertaiment reasons
Damn you guys are dense. They're portraying the agencies' Special Avtivities Branch.
I have zero interest in this show. I’m tired of the media making movies/shows about women in special forces. Unique covert situations sure. Running full kit like they are part of a direct action unit. No! Also can you cast a women built like a tall ifbb bikini pro and say they use to fight in the ufc if we are going to act like they can actually stand a chance with a man in a fight.
Loved the show, but mu biggest issue was yhe introduction of the pilot. They explained how shes a big time appache pilot and she shows up in a black hawk, then at the end they talk about getting her an apache bit cant and shes back in the black hawk.
Other than the movie Delta Force, PREDATOR is the first delta force themed motion picture
Yea the delta guys were in movies a while before the seals... alot of folks don't realize that
Chuck Norris made a movie specifically named and themed 1 year before Predator. And it was based off of an actual mission.
Mmmm I'd say no.....
@@dserafin4663 No…That was a CIA team in Predator.
I loved seeing Dirt Diver back in the unit.
Lioness isn't an accurate portrayal of anyone in sf and I love women, but anyone when something happens how many times does your wife check it out unless baby crying 90% of police, military, logging, mechanics, fire people,government, contractors, doctors, warehouse, architects,steel workers, etc.etc please ‼️⁉️🔥⚰🤳🚔😇🙏🤙🤑🎯🔫🌉🏄♂️✝️🇺🇸
It is the CIA's Ground Branch that is depicted. Not Delta Force.
I love the show. My only complaints is 8 episodes a season. Lioness is a 5 star TV show💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Question RE: Lioness. I recently viewed the series and remember someone on your podcast say that the Delta aspects seemed accurate. I am curious about the cyclic rate of the rifles they carry. It seems very fast, like Mac11 fast. Is this realistic or just Hollywood? Seems like it would empty magazines FAST. Thank you.
Seems it was predictive programming, based on recent developments. Also funny that it seems every show of this type in the last couple years has been a female lead.
Bob Baer talks about his wife as a CIA operative taking a six month shooting class. They were both in the CIA. You can find videos of him speaking on RUclips & on two of the three alternative commentary tracks of the RED bluray.
Season 1, very girl power centric. If you can overlook it, it's a great show. Season 2, you don't see any of that lesbo BS and it's awesome!
Best show out
LOVE the Lioness series! There are probably some badass women like Jo, but they are the minority. Not anti-female, just a fact women are different. I know because I am one LOL.
David... Please take down "Red Dawn" remake DVD holder and put up the original 1984 version. That was a HORRIBLE remake and it should have never been made, approved and released!
I saw an ad of the woman they had acting in it, her character seemed a bit uh immature and petulant. Just very off putting.
Who cares. It's TV. If I'm in the military, I wouldn't allow realistic tactics, equipment, and operational procedures on a show cidicated for public consumption. That's stupid.
It's a fun show, however I take issue with how Jo, the main character, treats other people, especially regular old military types. All of her screaming and chest thumping is nonsense. As a Marine, and an ops chief in various FOB's throughout Iraq, I dealt with many spec ops types that would role through, stay for awhile and move on. Some I understood who they were with, and occasionally I would not. Didn't matter, we would support them as required. What they did not do was disrespect the battle space owners once they showed up. They were always respectful and a pleasure to work with in most cases. It doesn't matter who you are, you just don't show up, demand things, and disrespect the CO in front of his men; it won't go well, that's just Hollywood nonsense.
I just finished season 2 and this was a realy entertaining series. I loved it accurate or not
Pistol CQB is primed and unprimed. Primed something isn't right your weapon is in the ready. Unprimed your in standing mode and you have to draw and react. Many shooters have strong side and weak side but in true CQB fashion you have right side and a left and your weapon skills are equal which you must build and maintain. The the other guy have strong and weak it increases your % of survival. The upside down shooting refers to firing one handed around hard cover. Some people are really good at OFF skills or unique shooting techniques but those skills aren't made up. Through trial and error do they develop and operators us long gun only a handful us sidearms.
Women are not SHOOTERS, they're intel, support personnel.
@A-PatrioT uh yes I was !! Sorry to disappoint you 0321 Marine Recon Battalion.
Aren't they former Unit members and part of SAD Ground Branch?
On of the operators stated that their still in delta but the unit lends them out on rotation with the CIA
@KillMonger592 The late Richard NMI Marcinko US Navy, O-5 ret explained a few points- 📚 1990s era. Some "tier 1" types get loan-out. Some get "sheep dip" into OGAs or military contract firms. Some do "undercover" 🥸 missions. Delta/CAG called some assignments, singleton. 📂
I was just being the whole season 1 and 2 and caught up
Lioness is great