Oshun is most often depicted as a dark skin woman so I got lost off rip. The only light skin depiction I’ve ever seen of oshun is anytime beyonce used her energy (no offense).
My brown skinned sat by the river and prayed to her for a daughter. Lets just say I have my daughter and she was born with. Gold small patch of hair the rest of her hair is dark brown ..
Born and raised into a Yoruba family and very familiar, I feel ashamed of how people are desecrating traditional ancestral heritages. I can't even listen although just briefly hearing I don't think you personally are being disrespectful. As a daughter of Osun (e ma se yeye Osun) she has never made a point of shade but has always looked very black skinned when she comes through. Deeply saddened. But thank you for acknowledging the crap that people uphold.
Alafia, El-Sun Here, I just wanted to add that in addition to the pernicious fabrications about Osun and light skin people, there is also another disturbing stigma; that Osun only caters to women and homosexual men. Such asinine nonsense. I adore Oya, Yewa, Osun, Yemoja Oba, etc, they're a divine part of the Orisa cipher. I get so tired of people with limited historical processes trying to put a dent in the infinite African historical process. Our ancestors went through a pernicious time and yet had the strength protection of the Orisas to preserve our tradition so that we can carry it on. I refuse in every sense of the word to allow anyone to weaken this strong African presence in the world! Alafia Awo Ato. EL-Sun Amen Ra Omo Ogun
@@stritly The Orisha don't favor anyone but those that honor and worship them, which means everyone. Don't limit and put an Orisha in a box. Remember Orishas are beyond our understanding and all we know is what they choose to reveal and what we can see with our limited understanding.
I was a little worried when I say the title. I am a non-initiate, I am only learning of the Orisha and speaking with my ancestors. As a dark skin black woman, I cried when I discovered this representation of beauty, that could look like me. As a performer, she has shown up many times in my work. Will the website be updated soon?
A very good topic something that really needs to be discussed. i live in the Caribbean (not Cuba ) and recently in my homeland i heard about a split in the Orisha community between the Older generation which wanted to preserve the syncretic version of Ifa that were taught to them by their parents and elders, which was developed to hide the practice, and the younger generation which want to purge the Orisha practice of all European elements . There are to many people inventing ideas about what Orisha is about, i've read about people mixing elements of wicca and Orisha practices together. It's dangerous when people equate tolerance with " everything goes "
I wonder about that myself! Im fairly new to implementing and practicing my spirituality. And its true; because when you learn your true history (We didnt land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on us!) It makes you wonder. Scientifically the sun is deteriorating u. Scientifically even if we love each other and procreate our genes are going to naturally wipe out your genes. As above so below right?
Mixing wicca into orisha worship...???.........😒......so the thing is in this religion there are rules that have to be followed. If you do not follow the rules they can have negative effects and sometimes dire consequences. Whether you're part of the lukumi branch or traditional ifa you have to follow those traditional rules and most of the time they do not involve wicca or hoodoo etc.
Johnny DTW lukumi is the branch of ifa that is practiced in Cuba and Puerto Rico. When the slaves were brought over they brought ifa but it was mixed with Taino folk remedies and practices as well as Catholicism and Judaism which then turned into lukumi
As a white woman I gotta say it bothers me to see that as well. I saw a depiction another deity who was white washed the other day that rubbed me the wrong way. Maman Brigid, who may have been adopted from the Irish goddess Brigid, but she is a deity of the faith of voodoo. She should not have been depicted white the way this artist did her, and it was so gross to me. The worst part is the person is from New Orleans and should have known better.
all the original depictions from Africa show her as a dark skinned round faced woman no where near the white looking straight haired euro depictions i have seen also. You are absolutely right in your feelings i feel the same way when i see it.
Alafia Awo Ato My Sister! I am feeling you so much right now!!! I've been manifesting this for decades, literally. I practice Yoruba in an African demonstrable way. I don't worship Catholic Saints and I'm not afraid to say it. I once needed something to venerate the Egun and didn't feel like traveling far so I went to a local Botanica and I was so disappointed. The owner asked me what was wrong and without filter I simply said "This is a Catholic Store." I apologized for the aspersion but not the content. You are so right in that people of color; especially black people without knowledge of self and kind, see Europeans as their standard of excellence and end up championing something else at the detriment of our cultural historical process. I support you in this endeavor 110%. May you be showered with blessing via Olodumare and that Esu clears all obstacles and guide and direct you in the best manner. There needs to be a conversation about the difference of ESU and Eleggua; but that's another space and time. Oh, and your name is fantastic! Alafia Alafia Awo Ato EL-Sun Amen Ra Omo Ogun
I really appreciate your insight. You are spot on when you coment on the africancuban diaspora wanting to keep hiding behind fears of the past. They still wont acknowledge the blue print.
My two cents here is that we currently have a translation issue between all of us. We all believe the same thing but we call it different things even though its all basically Vodou! In South Africa we don't even give it a name, we just call it Traditional. If someone asks you "are you traditional?" in South Africa, it means "Do you do Vodou?". It's not a bad thing, in fact you have to register with the government if you're a witch so you can get insured if your potions go wrong. You can also take paid leave from work for "twasa" (training/initiation). Yall African Americans are wasting your time in America busy being exterminatinated. Yall need to come back home. Of course all these Spirits are black as black, but over time they have appeared in many different forms in order to initiate you in a particular order. Oshun is black but if she wants to initiate a white girl from Manhattan, she's gonna appear as Venus/Aphrodite for instance. She's an energy. Also, when white people killed our ancestors, they were tied to our bloodlines. In Southern Africa we call them "Mandawe/Mdau" spirits. So when white people took ships to come kill us, they had to make offerings to the sea gods. So they did their Slavic magic and got talismans to sail across the oceans. The sea spirits however, are all black so when the sailors finally reached us and then turned against us, the sea spirits punished the white souls of the sailors to serve the children of the victims. So in our culture, if you dream of white people or even white Oshun, then your main ancestor is a Mandawe or white people. They live in forests and water. They love technology and beauty. They never age and they can swim through life in the sea of people. They confuse people's sexuality because of how alluring they are. Of course this is just one group, we also have other spirit types that do different things and as I research (for a part, I'm an actor) I see that Vodou, Santeria, Kabaallah, Islam etc. is all the same. If only we could find a way to communicate it universally so that all Africans across the world connect toward a common purpose. Yes, some houses are more artistic and others more militaristic but we need them all to survive.
Right. Just look at how they took Yemeya and made that Disney movie Moanna. Made her look Samoan. I said wow when the Jungle book was a Mexican boy too.
TheLast DamnGamer no. They have a version as well. Divine energy showed up for people all over the world in the ways that those people could understand.
@@JenJaneway OMG we are kindred I say this all the time. God(des) appear to people on the level that is best for them, relatable and comprehend and accept.
I ONLY watched this video because of the title & i am sooooooo happy that you spoke on this!!!!!!!!! I am new to the Orishas & I am so intrigued and am in love!!!!!!!! Thank you 💛
I agree with you. I fully understand that spiritual being do not have skin or sexual organs, they do have attributes that are masculine or feminine. People see their orishas and or God's in their own image to be relatable. Which is natural and good. I also understand that a faith that began in Africa by African people, the original representative images are what helps you connect yourself to your roots, because they look like yourself. And to see it represented differently would be considered inappropriate or disrespectful. I personally would never represent our lady of Guadalupe represented as black, white or Asian, and I would also feel it would be inappropriate. However, I would not take it personally if a black person represented her as black. Because that's how he sees her and identifies with her. I think we need to keep in mind that it's the faith that counts, not the images. If someone is practicing seriously and honoring their orishas, I don't think the orishas care how they are being visualized. I think the orishas are content that the individual in question is honoring them and representing them well in their lifestyle and actions. Therefore I think it's wrong to be offended by other people's representations of orishas as long as they are not directly mocking them. We can't allow our personal issues and predjudices interfere with our worship, because it is wrongful and we don't have the authority to determine who the orishas pick and for what reasons . Although I completely understand why one would be offended by certain images. But we are striving to be of good character and of a higher moral standard than our currant selves and be on a spiritual plane rather than in this earthly debauchery of injustice. Although I get it, but one cannot allow oneself to drag our earthly negative experiences into our spiritual realm, that is why we cleanse ourselves, both physically and mentally before engaging our orishas.
The mear fact of the white image of Jesus and what that over time does to my carbon melenated cousiousnous is what turned me away from the Christianity group. how can I then turn to hoodoo and work with the white image of the spiritual world
Lavender Love Exactly. It even says in the Bible that Jesus's hair is like sheeps wool, and he has darker skin. It's really sad how we can't be represented not once in society without it going through the white filter.
I recently learned about this all. I never knew about Oshun. How and where can I learn about it all. I’m very open but knowing there’s a goddess that looks like me it more then worth knowing.
first off Santeria does NOT white wash anything. it is a AFRO-CUBAN religion meaning the ancestors are AFRICAN who brought the secrets of orisha with them to cuba as slaves. WE 100% recognize the ROOTS of Orisha
This is so true and I am a mixed woman... But I feel uncomfortable looking at so many white washed or light skinned wash figures when I know that these divinities come from Africa. It ridiculous! I don't understand why not just give black people their reconignition man wtf is so hard about that!? I walk into a botonica store and I'm like do u have an oschun doll or figure? And the black man working behind the counter shows me a white woman figure I'm like wth is this? I said Oshun is from Africa though why is there so many white figures in here by the way? Even Jesus wasn't white! He tells me Orisihas or this religion something like that doesn't see color.! Ok I can understand that then why change the original color to something different? Crazy dont make no sense. So I tell him I wanna make an offer to Oshun. He points to the white figure. I said uhhh yal don't have a black one? And I put the money right on the black Oshun. Shit just dont make no sense.
Let me get this straight Oshun only deal with light skinned children that is crazy also i heard Oshun only deal with skinny people WOW WOW WOW thank God i have loving godparents♥
Not true. Not true not true. You obviously don't know anything about the Orishas. Oshun love all her children. Light and dark. Oshun is dark skinned how could you say something so untrue. You do know Oshun doesn't like liars and your lying on her name.
Your title is not right with the subjet. I got what you saying not they favor only light skin. What about sycretism that's how in my country the past slave could do but it did remain a tradition. But when one come they don't look nothing European unless if is a European court showing up.
Osun is another diety, you are referring to Ochun or Oshun. The Yoruba belief system was preserved in Cuba and as an island nation receive visits from many who look to learn from these ancient practices. Similarly in Puerto Rico and the Bahia area of Brazil. The collares can be worn in or out and are worn inside for practical reasons by Santeros when active so as to avoid getting them caught on things. Ochun is and has always been depicted as a lighter skin deity not for any European ideas but because in Africa too people have different skin tones. As civilisation was born in Africa this belief system recognises skin tones and all the Orishas are African yet it embraces all people. The values are based on being a good mother, father, child, brother, sister etc. In some signs the person might be advised not to marry a lighter skin or darker skin person as their luck or progress in life is with the opposite etc. I have been initiated as daughter of Ochun for 22 years, an Iyalocha, with 4 godchildren - ahijados. Made in Cuba, and ever grateful everyday. Ache.
Both or the slave who arrive in Cuba wasn't Yoruba they teach us before this Yoruba revolution now.Not all Yoruba are extremeli dark no all igbos are light.Any way Oshun is an energy and love any human no matter the color. We humans represent the orishas in a way we can feel identified. In Cuba Oshun have a cinnamon or caramel color for be specific when people want to represent her and her sister Yemaya the darker.beautiful black skin is the black mother of everybody mama Africa and we love them both
I get what your saying but I must disagree with the fact that you called it yaruba religion..,it’s not it’s part of a culture, my culture to which I’m proud of, I grew up knowing where my ancestors came from and how they tried very hard to keep that part of their culture alive ....thank you Omo Osun
The area that I come from which is a riverian area of Nigeria, are the water god (mami water) worshippers. River deities in many areas have always been referred to as light skinned. I don’t think the elders in my village who still revere her care about what the world thinks. Osun is not the only water goddess and these deities appear to people in different forms, even Osun. It may be in the form of a man, woman, snake, light skinned, dark skinned.....Stop using the Black American mindset to paint and put things in one pot, one mindset. Sitting on RUclips and reading up people’s work who want to potray what they want to potray does not cut it. Actually go to Africa and go find out what people actually believe.
Orisha are energy.
Orisha orginiated in Africa. How could they only favor people who've been mixed with non Africans.
Exactly!
Oshun is most often depicted as a dark skin woman so I got lost off rip. The only light skin depiction I’ve ever seen of oshun is anytime beyonce used her energy (no offense).
@@alexalmighty4775 I've seen this lightening happen often with Spanish speakers or white people wanting to use oshun in eclectic witchcraft paths
Orissa doesn’t see skin colour sexuality or gender.
@@bbygurl8821 then why does her look have to sway from its origin
My brown skinned sat by the river and prayed to her for a daughter. Lets just say I have my daughter and she was born with. Gold small patch of hair the rest of her hair is dark brown
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That's beautiful!
Wow ❤️❤️
I have the same gold patch (birthmark) in my hair/head
Wow great
Beautiful! Much good fortune wishes to you!
hey
oshun never favors any skin color
people please don’t lost your self in false thoughts
Everyone does realize that Oshun is from Nigerian, right? The Oshun-Osogbo. Be careful, black people. The Insinuator is always afoot.
Born and raised into a Yoruba family and very familiar, I feel ashamed of how people are desecrating traditional ancestral heritages. I can't even listen although just briefly hearing I don't think you personally are being disrespectful. As a daughter of Osun (e ma se yeye Osun) she has never made a point of shade but has always looked very black skinned when she comes through. Deeply saddened. But thank you for acknowledging the crap that people uphold.
"You cannot make a copy without discussing the blueprint!" Love it! Blessings Queen.
Alafia, El-Sun Here, I just wanted to add that in addition to the pernicious fabrications about Osun and light skin people, there is also another disturbing stigma; that Osun only caters to women and homosexual men. Such asinine nonsense. I adore Oya, Yewa, Osun, Yemoja Oba, etc, they're a divine part of the Orisa cipher. I get so tired of people with limited historical processes trying to put a dent in the infinite African historical process. Our ancestors went through a pernicious time and yet had the strength protection of the Orisas to preserve our tradition so that we can carry it on. I refuse in every sense of the word to allow anyone to weaken this strong African presence in the world! Alafia Awo Ato.
EL-Sun Amen Ra Omo Ogun
Osumare is the patron of LGBT people.
@@stritly The Orisha don't favor anyone but those that honor and worship them, which means everyone. Don't limit and put an Orisha in a box. Remember Orishas are beyond our understanding and all we know is what they choose to reveal and what we can see with our limited understanding.
I was a little worried when I say the title. I am a non-initiate, I am only learning of the Orisha and speaking with my ancestors. As a dark skin black woman, I cried when I discovered this representation of beauty, that could look like me. As a performer, she has shown up many times in my work.
Will the website be updated soon?
A very good topic something that really needs to be discussed. i live in the Caribbean (not Cuba ) and recently in my homeland i heard about a split in the Orisha community between the Older generation which wanted to preserve the syncretic version of Ifa that were taught to them by their parents and elders, which was developed to hide the practice, and the younger generation which want to purge the Orisha practice of all European elements .
There are to many people inventing ideas about what Orisha is about, i've read about people mixing elements of wicca and Orisha practices together. It's dangerous when people equate tolerance with " everything goes "
I wonder about that myself! Im fairly new to implementing and practicing my spirituality. And its true; because when you learn your true history (We didnt land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on us!) It makes you wonder. Scientifically the sun is deteriorating u. Scientifically even if we love each other and procreate our genes are going to naturally wipe out your genes. As above so below right?
Gerard Ruben amalgamation resulting from western commercial influence...bs in short...
Mixing wicca into orisha worship...???.........😒......so the thing is in this religion there are rules that have to be followed. If you do not follow the rules they can have negative effects and sometimes dire consequences. Whether you're part of the lukumi branch or traditional ifa you have to follow those traditional rules and most of the time they do not involve wicca or hoodoo etc.
@@Ladyhoneybun242 what is lukumi branch
Johnny DTW lukumi is the branch of ifa that is practiced in Cuba and Puerto Rico. When the slaves were brought over they brought ifa but it was mixed with Taino folk remedies and practices as well as Catholicism and Judaism which then turned into lukumi
HA!! THAT'S CRAZY!!! MY BROWN SKINNED ASS MOST CERTAINLY IS A CHILD OF OSUN AND IM NOT LIGHT SKINNED AT ALL!! FOOLISHNESS!! THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!!
Ase mama
You have a good grasp of the subject......keep it going! Don't just mind the naysayers! Orishas can handle them all.
Listened entirely! Thank you for protecting heritage and highlighting the disgrace of prejudice within our Africentric cultures. 😍😍😍
As a white woman I gotta say it bothers me to see that as well. I saw a depiction another deity who was white washed the other day that rubbed me the wrong way. Maman Brigid, who may have been adopted from the Irish goddess Brigid, but she is a deity of the faith of voodoo. She should not have been depicted white the way this artist did her, and it was so gross to me. The worst part is the person is from New Orleans and should have known better.
Very well said my sister! This was needed nothing grows without roots. And a lot of people have forgotten that.
all the original depictions from Africa show her as a dark skinned round faced woman no where near the white looking straight haired euro depictions i have seen also. You are absolutely right in your feelings i feel the same way when i see it.
I always see oshun as myself. Im always in the oshun river. Im underwater, im serene and humming.
I also see Oshun as an Earth deity as well.
Alafia Awo Ato My Sister! I am feeling you so much right now!!! I've been manifesting this for decades, literally. I practice Yoruba in an African demonstrable way. I don't worship Catholic Saints and I'm not afraid to say it. I once needed something to venerate the Egun and didn't feel like traveling far so I went to a local Botanica and I was so disappointed. The owner asked me what was wrong and without filter I simply said "This is a Catholic Store." I apologized for the aspersion but not the content. You are so right in that people of color; especially black people without knowledge of self and kind, see Europeans as their standard of excellence and end up championing something else at the detriment of our cultural historical process. I support you in this endeavor 110%. May you be showered with blessing via Olodumare and that Esu clears all obstacles and guide and direct you in the best manner. There needs to be a conversation about the difference of ESU and Eleggua; but that's another space and time. Oh, and your name is fantastic! Alafia
Alafia Awo Ato
EL-Sun Amen Ra Omo Ogun
Well said
I really appreciate your insight. You are spot on when you coment on the africancuban diaspora wanting to keep hiding behind fears of the past. They still wont acknowledge the blue print.
I ask myself the same question y do they worship European saints in African spirituality
It is hurtful. I agree 100%.
“You can’t make a copy without a blueprint!” Powerful statement.
My two cents here is that we currently have a translation issue between all of us. We all believe the same thing but we call it different things even though its all basically Vodou!
In South Africa we don't even give it a name, we just call it Traditional. If someone asks you "are you traditional?" in South Africa, it means "Do you do Vodou?". It's not a bad thing, in fact you have to register with the government if you're a witch so you can get insured if your potions go wrong. You can also take paid leave from work for "twasa" (training/initiation). Yall African Americans are wasting your time in America busy being exterminatinated. Yall need to come back home.
Of course all these Spirits are black as black, but over time they have appeared in many different forms in order to initiate you in a particular order. Oshun is black but if she wants to initiate a white girl from Manhattan, she's gonna appear as Venus/Aphrodite for instance. She's an energy.
Also, when white people killed our ancestors, they were tied to our bloodlines. In Southern Africa we call them "Mandawe/Mdau" spirits. So when white people took ships to come kill us, they had to make offerings to the sea gods. So they did their Slavic magic and got talismans to sail across the oceans. The sea spirits however, are all black so when the sailors finally reached us and then turned against us, the sea spirits punished the white souls of the sailors to serve the children of the victims. So in our culture, if you dream of white people or even white Oshun, then your main ancestor is a Mandawe or white people. They live in forests and water. They love technology and beauty. They never age and they can swim through life in the sea of people. They confuse people's sexuality because of how alluring they are.
Of course this is just one group, we also have other spirit types that do different things and as I research (for a part, I'm an actor) I see that Vodou, Santeria, Kabaallah, Islam etc. is all the same. If only we could find a way to communicate it universally so that all Africans across the world connect toward a common purpose. Yes, some houses are more artistic and others more militaristic but we need them all to survive.
Can I ask you to consider changing the title on this video to help people stay a bit more focused?
Jen P yes because I almost thought she was white washed herself but I had to listen in.
I 100% agree sister
OSHUN AFRICAN
Ore Yeye ore Yeye Oşun o
Right. Just look at how they took Yemeya and made that Disney movie Moanna. Made her look Samoan. I said wow when the Jungle book was a Mexican boy too.
TheLast DamnGamer no.
They have a version as well.
Divine energy showed up for people all over the world in the ways that those people could understand.
The jungle book boy was Indian. The Disney version was based in India.
@@JenJaneway OMG we are kindred I say this all the time. God(des) appear to people on the level that is best for them, relatable and comprehend and accept.
I ONLY watched this video because of the title & i am sooooooo happy that you spoke on this!!!!!!!!! I am new to the Orishas & I am so intrigued and am in love!!!!!!!! Thank you 💛
I know this video is old. But! I agree so much.
Spirit doesn't care about race or color. Only man does ask yourself what matters more the divine or mankind.
They are archetypes and personal thoughtforms that we create.
So should I not praise Oshun since I’m dark-skinned?
im over here thinking the same thing bc I believe im the daughter of Oshun
I am also disgusted that family members of mine have prejudice against their own
Wasted energy... Not every comment deserves a response... Ase
I am a daughter of mama osun and yemoja amd they are both black skin women that are from yoruba all the other orisha deities also.
I agree with you. I fully understand that spiritual being do not have skin or sexual organs, they do have attributes that are masculine or feminine. People see their orishas and or God's in their own image to be relatable. Which is natural and good. I also understand that a faith that began in Africa by African people, the original representative images are what helps you connect yourself to your roots, because they look like yourself. And to see it represented differently would be considered inappropriate or disrespectful. I personally would never represent our lady of Guadalupe represented as black, white or Asian, and I would also feel it would be inappropriate. However, I would not take it personally if a black person represented her as black. Because that's how he sees her and identifies with her. I think we need to keep in mind that it's the faith that counts, not the images. If someone is practicing seriously and honoring their orishas, I don't think the orishas care how they are being visualized. I think the orishas are content that the individual in question is honoring them and representing them well in their lifestyle and actions. Therefore I think it's wrong to be offended by other people's representations of orishas as long as they are not directly mocking them. We can't allow our personal issues and predjudices interfere with our worship, because it is wrongful and we don't have the authority to determine who the orishas pick and for what reasons . Although I completely understand why one would be offended by certain images. But we are striving to be of good character and of a higher moral standard than our currant selves and be on a spiritual plane rather than in this earthly debauchery of injustice. Although I get it, but one cannot allow oneself to drag our earthly negative experiences into our spiritual realm, that is why we cleanse ourselves, both physically and mentally before engaging our orishas.
I totally get where you are going and it makes sense! I agree !
The mear fact of the white image of Jesus and what that over time does to my carbon
melenated cousiousnous is what turned me away from the Christianity group. how can I then turn to hoodoo and work with the white image of the spiritual world
Lavender Love
Exactly. It even says in the Bible that Jesus's hair is like sheeps wool, and he has darker skin. It's really sad how we can't be represented not once in society without it going through the white filter.
Preach!
Very wise peace and Blessings 👸🏽✊🏽🌻
OMG. You so favor Rhianna.lol. Much love my sister conscious! May your journey be enlightened continuously!
Orisha don’t see skin colour sexuality or gender
ya the title made me say ew lol but this wasnt what I thought it would be lol
That’s how they did Jesus and the Bible describe him like a black man with woolly hair
I recently learned about this all. I never knew about Oshun. How and where can I learn about it all. I’m very open but knowing there’s a goddess that looks like me it more then worth knowing.
I understand what you're saying....
Lmao Oshun doesn’t favor light skin children. Lmaooo
You know your stuff you have a lot of Knowledge and Wisdom.
This was beautiful and so are you. This message was deep on so many levels. It triggered me because it is soooooo True!
That's why I never liked it Santeria because of all the white images
Jermaine Taylor we created the Europeans So we have to remember this is why it's a mixture
first off Santeria does NOT white wash anything. it is a AFRO-CUBAN religion meaning the ancestors are AFRICAN who brought the secrets of orisha with them to cuba as slaves. WE 100% recognize the ROOTS of Orisha
it's not just Ifa it's Voodoun as well
preach!
Pure madness!!
You got any videos on my father guardian Orisa XANGO?
Thank you for your care in this subject
This is so true and I am a mixed woman... But I feel uncomfortable looking at so many white washed or light skinned wash figures when I know that these divinities come from Africa. It ridiculous! I don't understand why not just give black people their reconignition man wtf is so hard about that!? I walk into a botonica store and I'm like do u have an oschun doll or figure? And the black man working behind the counter shows me a white woman figure I'm like wth is this? I said Oshun is from Africa though why is there so many white figures in here by the way? Even Jesus wasn't white! He tells me Orisihas or this religion something like that doesn't see color.! Ok I can understand that then why change the original color to something different? Crazy dont make no sense. So I tell him I wanna make an offer to Oshun. He points to the white figure. I said uhhh yal don't have a black one? And I put the money right on the black Oshun. Shit just dont make no sense.
Let me get this straight Oshun only deal with light skinned children that is crazy also i heard Oshun only deal with skinny people WOW WOW WOW thank God i have loving godparents♥
When you lie. You know your stuff girl love watching you.
Love how you r all about real stuff mami Amor yes.
The title of this video 😯😯😯SERIOUSLY???
its African ...know your history
Not true. Not true not true. You obviously don't know anything about the Orishas. Oshun love all her children. Light and dark. Oshun is dark skinned how could you say something so untrue. You do know Oshun doesn't like liars and your lying on her name.
ThIs video is just this young woman's opinion. Putting out false info
Beautifully stated Ase
Do what I say, not as I do...😕
True...but Colorism and eurocentricism affects us all...even u...but u should start with self...seriously Queen.
Thank you, well said
This is false…the Yoruba people aren’t just a lighter complexion people you sound colonized
Your title is not right with the subjet. I got what you saying not they favor only light skin. What about sycretism that's how in my country the past slave could do but it did remain a tradition. But when one come they don't look nothing European unless if is a European court showing up.
Thank you put this evil silliness thinking to rest whoever put this out to create division you better think twice or you will get………..!
Love thank you
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You are very pretty you look like a light skin Gabrielle Union.
Africans soldiers Ifa…what do you expect?
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Good u said in ur opinion, cuz that's not true
Oshun only come to me as a light skin woman. Same color as myself. She come to me as myself but always an upgraded version of me with golden hair.
So water favors light skinned ppl?😂😂😂
You shifted at the start of the video
wtf
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Osun is another diety, you are referring to Ochun or Oshun. The Yoruba belief system was preserved in Cuba and as an island nation receive visits from many who look to learn from these ancient practices. Similarly in Puerto Rico and the Bahia area of Brazil. The collares can be worn in or out and are worn inside for practical reasons by Santeros when active so as to avoid getting them caught on things. Ochun is and has always been depicted as a lighter skin deity not for any European ideas but because in Africa too people have different skin tones. As civilisation was born in Africa this belief system recognises skin tones and all the Orishas are African yet it embraces all people. The values are based on being a good mother, father, child, brother, sister etc. In some signs the person might be advised not to marry a lighter skin or darker skin person as their luck or progress in life is with the opposite etc. I have been initiated as daughter of Ochun for 22 years, an Iyalocha, with 4 godchildren - ahijados. Made in Cuba, and ever grateful everyday. Ache.
Christina Owen depicted light by whom? Cubans or full blooded Yorubas?
af both
Full blooded?
Both or the slave who arrive in Cuba wasn't Yoruba they teach us before this Yoruba revolution now.Not all Yoruba are extremeli dark no all igbos are light.Any way Oshun is an energy and love any human no matter the color. We humans represent the orishas in a way we can feel identified. In Cuba Oshun have a cinnamon or caramel color for be specific when people want to represent her and her sister Yemaya the darker.beautiful black skin is the black mother of everybody mama Africa and we love them both
I get what your saying but I must disagree with the fact that you called it yaruba religion..,it’s not it’s part of a culture, my culture to which I’m proud of, I grew up knowing where my ancestors came from and how they tried very hard to keep that part of their culture alive ....thank you Omo Osun
I refuse to buy light skinned or white orisha statues and art
A woman with a wig glued to her eyebrows wants authenticity!! Smh #startedinatlantis 👁
Why do we insist on making everything racial. Not impressed.
The area that I come from which is a riverian area of Nigeria, are the water god (mami water) worshippers. River deities in many areas have always been referred to as light skinned. I don’t think the elders in my village who still revere her care about what the world thinks.
Osun is not the only water goddess and these deities appear to people in different forms, even Osun. It may be in the form of a man, woman, snake, light skinned, dark skinned.....Stop using the Black American mindset to paint and put things in one pot, one mindset. Sitting on RUclips and reading up people’s work who want to potray what they want to potray does not cut it. Actually go to Africa and go find out what people actually believe.
Thats ridiculous. Smh.