See the TPT-3000EQ: (affiliate links) Amazon: amzn.to/36fe4fK eBay: is.gd/timpano3kebay Stetsom EX3000EQ: Amazon: amzn.to/2qsu3aO eBay: is.gd/stetsom3kebay See my playlist of Brazilian Amps tested: is.gd/brazilianampplaylist See 2014 Video of the 1500 watt amp blowing up at 0.5 ohms: ruclips.net/video/865jrg8hMUo/видео.html
Thats not ok to sell this product... a product that burns out , thats stupid to produce a product that not hold 3 min. The same if you buy a new car and the engine blows after 20 miles... what they all doing? They produce stuff for the garbage... i dont understand that..
If their amp can't handle what they say it can they are kind of asking to be put out of business. I'm glad you make these videos keep up the good work.
Hey at least they didn't lie out their ass and multiply the rated power by 7 or 8. I bet if you put 300 amps thru any amp that's in its price range and the same will happen, but yeah it should have over current protection.
This is a misconception with the design of most Brazilian amps. The way dynos read power does something funky with the full bridge amp design. If you put that sub on a subwoofer and then clamp power tested it would do over rated and be very reliable. I personally have that stetsom ex3000eq in my truck for 3 years on a 300a fuse. Ran 2 18s walled at first now I have it running 6 8" mids. It's a fantastic amp that gets a bad reputation from these type of scenarios since you cannot dyno them properly.
@@ThonotosassaBoys With how cheap electronics are to manufacture these days, it's just not safe not to have overcurrent protection in the design. As a matter of fact, it's illegal to install any electronic equipment that doesn't have overcurrent protection in most countries for insurance and fire liability reasons. If you want to install some piece of shit equipment like this into your property, be my guest. But don't cry like a baby if your entire vehicle is in flames because the amplifier failed and the fuseing you used was insufficient.
You should never feel guilty or concerned about an amp manufacturer's reputation. You do clean, transparent tests. If the amp can't meet ratings, then that information needs to be public. If the amp fails in a dangerous way, as this one did, then that is a matter of consumer safety. You are perfectly justified to share your findings. Keep up the good work!
1. No one should buy this amp under any circumstance when there’s other more reliable Brazilian amps out there for close to the same price (I mean you had 2 of them blow up the same way) 2. You da man for doing this public service amp tests and saving people money and possibly their LIFE!!! 3. Excellent work on the edit and capturing it from 3 different angles like a BOSS!
Such a bummer things like this can still happen and I'm afraid attempts to get price so low have affected decisions concerning protection. It's truly scary to think of this happening in a car and the possible outcome.
@@wal My thoughts exactly. You could burn your car to the ground very easily if this was to happen on the highway. I have a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1-5000D in my Mk4 Golf running two Sundown Audio SA12D2s, and I have it wired with 2G battery cable for power and ground with a 200A breaker at the front. These Sundowns are only rated for 500 watts a piece, wired at 2 ohms with the gain only turned half way up on the amp, they SLAM for two 12s, but I'm sure that Soundstream is pulling some major amperage. I paid $175 for that 5000 watt amp (yeah...right), but I have ALWAYS had good luck with Soundstream amps. I had four round Kicker Solobaric 10s on a Soundstream Reference 1000S back in the back of my 92 Integra back in the day. This Rubicon Nano may not make the 5k watts that it's advertised to, but it powers those two Sundown 12s like you wouldn't believe.
Stop spreading misinformation. Just like cheaply designed "Korean (see half bridge)" amps, cheaply designed "Brazilian (see full bridge)" will blow up. I get that you're biased against full bridge amplifiers, but it's factually incorrect and you're misleading people who don't know better.
@@wal especially when many people are running lithium batteries and the amps are mounted pretty close to them. Add mpg catches fire, causes the battery to catch, and it's bye bye vehicle and everything in it
I got bit by the car audio bug big time back in 2015. I was supposed to be training as a Buddhist monk (I was) but in meditation all I could think about was how I wanted to get my system. Anyway, I got a new sports car and told myself I'd go the performance route instead of car audio ... and then I decided I couldn't handle the lack of bass and put my sub in. Annnnnd the bug is back. Your channel has been awesome and inspiring. I love how you don't take yourself too seriously and it's just the facts without any BS. THIS is how I wish all car audio aficionados were. Thanks, man. Much appreciated.
It's hard to believe that, in this day and age, you have amps like this. Thank God for people like you BigD. This could've caused a fire in someone's vehicle and endangered their lives. Appreciate the video bro. 👍
Thanks for your honesty. Companies like this one would take advantage of the consumer if guys like you weren’t around. Thank you again for sticking up for us!
I had the Stetsom Ex-3000eq 1ohm model running @ 0.5ohm and it ran great. It got pretty hot (went to temperature protect once) at full tilt but it survived. I later replaced it with a Taramps HD 8000 and put it into another build running @ 1ohm. It's still working great.
I've seen tons of videos of Brazillian amps (TarAmps and these guys, mostly) burning demo vehicles to the ground. Evidently in South America it is popular for guys to have big ass semis that they turn into "wall of sound" demo trucks. I've seen at least 2 videos of this type of vehicle on fire due to over current just like what happened here. I've also seen videos of cars and trucks full of smoke and fire from these as well. I totally understand why people buy these but imo it isn't worth the risk. No over current protection= russian roulette with every big bass hit. Thank you Big D for the service you provide to the community. You deserve all the views and subs you get and more buddy. Keep up the great work!
Oh btw I have had my Ignite 6k for 7 months now and it is still bumping hard. Best cheap amp I have ever had. You are a legend!😁 Keep the videos coming!
I dont know if it was because the test was made with 40hz but I have seen a lot of cars and trucks running these Timpanos and Stetsoms for Mid Range and HF Drivers and they work really good. I personally have a Stetsom 3000 for mids and a Stetsom 800 for tweeters and it doesn’t even get hot.
yea lol. im tryping to buy subs right now and the way i find decent companies and gauge weather theyre good or not is by looking up their amps. if they do their rated power than i might buy from them, if not well...
@Westsidesnooker 2020 still running it buddy and it's been almost 2 yrs and it still works. Nothing against big d wiz but he always tends to push these kind of amps past their limits so of course they burn up instantly and makes them seem like they are nothing but junk. I've never burned an amp from overpowering or under powering so to each his own. Also what do you expect for 200 bucks
@@jeroenschuuring6060 yea, its called up grading my cars electrical and making sure my in line fuses are up to par or underfuse so I don't get those spikes in current and if I do get them, those inline fuses safe me from burning up. I went to school for Electrician so I'm well versed when it comes to electricity but thanks for your 2 cents. Maybe You could ve put me in my place 15 yrs ago but not today sir. Have a good day.
@@jeroenschuuring6060 I'm running stock 120 amp alt and I don't see anything over 100 amps considering im only running 1 15. I'm not competing and Its called a daily driver for a reason. I do have a oscilloscope and multimeter so I think I know how much current my amps and and alt are pulling. You got some nerve trying to tell someone how to live their lives. Where's your High current sound system at. I would like to see what your working with since you talk a big game.
Great video as always. I would give a double thumbs up if I could. I did buy one of the screwdriver kits you recommended. Sorry about the $220 that went up in smoke.
Guys if you’re thinking of buying any timpano amplifiers, check out their channel on RUclips. They have a video up on their channel about why the amp dyno does not count clean along with an oscilloscope. Big D go over and check it out. It was quite interesting.
Williston Audio Labs never knew you were into BMX too! That is an impressive air! There is no better feeling than airing out and floating a nice table!
Each TO220 FET (the large package) can roughly handle 75A. The moment voltage starts dropping the current has to go up to keep the same wattage up. Concurrently, efficiency starts dropping as well. The Brazilian amps are pushed to the limits in regards to the current pushed through these things. It's for this reason, and no joke, when people say that Brazilian amps can handle voltage drop. Even when the voltage is in spec, the FETs are pushed to their theoretical limits. The small chassis with no heat-sinking doesn't help either. To compare Fosgate on the BDCP Power lineup also uses large package TO220 but they use more of them, have a well designed protection circuit, very heavy sinks, and push sensible power numbers (the BDCP 1500 does ~2000W RMS / 3000W burst).
This is a great example of "you get what you pay for". Crazy they would sell something like this without a warning of any kind. Just imagine this in someone's trunk and this happening. The owner wouldn't be able to hear or smell it until the trunk was up in flames. A lot of people keep flammable items in the trunk, from clothes and blankets to gas cans. Thx for the video.
@@iam-lagger2115 They don't put out nowhere near what they promise. That's why i sold mine. Same with Taramps. When it comes to compact Brazilian amps only brand i would trust is Sound digital.
Man, I'm sure glad that you do what you do. Not that I would buy one of these anyway, because I don't run that much power on my subs, but that's pretty bad that it blew up like it did.
This is why I only use brand-name amps for subwoofers. Fosgate, kicker, DC audio. I know there’s others but these guys actually answer the phone and take returns and fix problems
Wish I could find the Fbook post where I got berated for making a comment about not wanting to park next to a car with Brazilian amps due to fire hazard. New rule all Brazilian amps get tested with the covers off. 👍
DAMN it blew up , big time ... Great video Big D , Thanks for the honesty . Now we know what there made of , no caps or protect ...WHAT ??!! Not an amp for subs ..... Keep them coming ...
Jose Hcca Luna The RCA input voltage shouldn’t affect the power supply section. My guess is that it’s not truly 1 ohm stable by design. Or it may not like a 1ohm resistive load.
I was seriously looking at buying this amp, but you had not tested it yet so I waited. Now I’m glad that I did wait! Thank you sir for all of these tests that you do!!!!!!!
I was going to order those amps cuz I remember a while back I asked you to review those amp and I am glad that you did I would not be buying those apps. Thank you once again
Imagine if you actually had 4g wire on it, that could have been a much bigger problem, always have an inline fuse in case your power lead melts from over current
this is one reason why I love the old school amps they are bigger and heavy but they do what they are made for. we thank you for sharing this with us. keep it up . thumps up!
Really appreciate your honesty. Know you could lie through your teeth, and probably get paid well to do so. One of my favorite channels on You tube! Keep it up.
If you ask me this is the exact reason why you should but a fuse in between the battery and the amp power wire. If the wire had a fuse rated properly for the amp with wire the correct gauge you would never have that problem. The fuse would just blow before it goes over the current pull that would blow the amp.
Thanks for the test Big D. Love the great testing procedures you are doing, one of the best out there. Good or bad Big D shows how it is. # 1 stop before purchasing any Amp is right here!
in my eyes im glad you do the testing that you do and i wouldn't feel bad at all about calling out anyone on there equipment that amp should do what it says and it can't with out blowing up so call em out big d you got my support
I always like to know about problems like this. Keep up the great work big D. I would rather spend the money on a better amp than have one blow up in my car. I'm interested on what you think of the new SFB line from Sundown and also the McLaren amps.
Keep doin the great work this is why I watch your videos before I buy anything. And I certainly wouldn't want that buring my trucks down. You are doing a good service pointing them out to us thank you
Honestly this amp is probably a 4 ohm ideal 2 ohm min amp which they tested to play music at 1 ohm for a song and didn't blow up. If the power supply FETs were replaced with high quality ones chances is this amp would be fine.
I have ran these for a while now I have yet to have one fail on me..... I fallow Brazilian amp rules..... Wire above rated by half an ohm..... Don't feed with more than 14.8 volts..... Don't feed with more than 1.5 volts of rca signal.... Don't get up to clipping..... Tune to the cleanest signal possible.... And if you want 2500 watts buy 5k
Dang I just bought 2 of these to run each of my 2 sundown x 18" for xmas....jk bahaha 🤣🤣🤣 get this crap off the market and go out of biz. Bahaha great review bahaha are you sure that wasn't a blowville bahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I can's help to notice that the protection light is blinking AFTER the amplifier went BANG! That BANG was almost worthy of Big Clive's youtube channel!
I actually don't see anything wrong with you showing these types of videos. If a company goes out of business because of a video like this then so be it. It's their fault for not selling a quality product. So thank you for doing the right thing and informing us of a dangerous product.
In the video the amp starts at 15.23 volts dynos then dynos again at 15.01 that's the equivalent of burping twice in a row. This will cause most amps to blow or protect. I ran Brazilian amps similar fine at 14.8 15 volts plus will cause them to blow. Start at 14.8 see what happens
Hey, from down under. Did you say you had similar problems with Stetsoms? I own a 4K5EV which is fused at 200amp X 2 (twin 0ga positive and negatives), is this too high? I will have to watch it during comps. Thanks for quality videos, keep it up.
Big D saves the day again! I actually found their amps via their speakers and had my reservations about a rebadged Brazil made amplifier and it turns out my gut was right! Timpano, used to be Tempesta in Italy and all they made were speakers. Good speakers...VERY good speakers for the commercial audio market. PRV bought them (Probably for the speaker tech) and decided to make the name more "Latino" and into a full line brand. They probably should have gone to Taramps or PowerUs instead. Lost opportunity. Thanks for saving me a few hundred bucks BigD...you ain't no "big dummy"! Edit cause I'm a big dummy and can't spell.
I ran one of these amps for over a year on 2 Sundown SA 15s. I ended up going with the Sundown SFB 2000. I thought the 3000 went out turned out to just be I needed to replace the ground wire. Amp was fine. Now the Sundown is much cleaner and has more power.
I'm a budget bass head, I run the power acoustic 2,500d amplifier, I know it only has 650 watts out put but I dont have to worry about it blowing up, and its pushing my wdx db drive 15"sub just fine
Fire extinguisher tip: Get A CO2 extinguisher for the lab. When you use this, it puts out CO2 and puts the fire out and doesn't leave a mess. Carbon Dioxide is commonly used around electrical and electronic equipment due to it being so clean, just don't use it on wood or paper fires.
Big D, based on a ton of your amp dynos, is it the norm these days for car audio amps to be rated at 2 or 3 times what they can actually deliver? As a teenager in the 80's paying alot of hard pay cash for Alpine and JVC amps I and my buddies played for, are amps today different than when my friends and I payed all that money? They seemed to be bad ass back then with no problems, with 12 band x2 EQs, and crossovers. Now, we are in our early 50's, and have money for our rides, but your channel may be showing us we are getting ripped for our money on the power. We have noticed it. My friends and I, all agree the sound is NOT the same. Can you do a video that might explain how we should approach buying power for our classic old school rides? We used to put 4 6x9 monos in the back window with enclosures and listen to Boston, and rattle our teeth. What has changed? My pro restoration shop is watching and listening to your channel. Are we being cheated on our amps? Thank you!
From an end user perspective and obe who is making 2 car payments a month along with a mortgage... We thank you for these videos! The vehicle and house are the 2 most expensive investments in life. I don't want something like this in any of my family's or customers vehicles. Safety has to always come first. If this were in someone's trunk and quit while they were in traffic or on the turnpike where they couldn't get off the road and actually caught something on fire... Now everyone has a major problem
I've seen this on other equipment as well. It is usually the traces on the circuit board that are not heavy enough to carry the current. The original circuit boards may have been made with two ounce or heavier copper. Then someone in production uses one ounce copper boards because they are much cheaper. On Chinese stuff that gets copied, the copies may be using thin copper because they don't know what they're doing, or care for that matter.
Screw them Big D! If their amp is cheap trash and it goes up in smoke then, it’s a wake up call to improve their product! I love your videos and the honesty. Don’t change a thing!! 👍👍😎
Fuses are designed to snap at around 1.5x to 2x the current the fuse is rated for. This way the fuse won't snap every time you hit 60 amps on an amp with 2x30a fuses, but it will snap when you short and send 120amps + to the fuse.
This is the exact reason I won't bother with Brazilian full bridge amps. I know there are some more reliable brands, but from what I've seen and heard, they all end up blowing at some point. Thanks for informing the community, Big D. You might have saved a car or two from burning to the ground.
There's a guy in south Africa. That repairs amps, he infact said that the amp circuit he repaired was stronger due to better ics used. I'm assuming that In getting better ics could improve it
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See the TPT-3000EQ: (affiliate links)
Amazon: amzn.to/36fe4fK
eBay: is.gd/timpano3kebay
Stetsom EX3000EQ:
Amazon: amzn.to/2qsu3aO
eBay: is.gd/stetsom3kebay
See my playlist of Brazilian Amps tested:
is.gd/brazilianampplaylist
See 2014 Video of the 1500 watt amp blowing up at 0.5 ohms: ruclips.net/video/865jrg8hMUo/видео.html
Damn hope mine doesn't blow up
@@georgetheupsdriver9914 Just keep a extinguisher in your car just in case.
Hey big D do u fix amplifiers as well?
Those mad BMX skills. 😎
Thats not ok to sell this product... a product that burns out , thats stupid to produce a product that not hold 3 min. The same if you buy a new car and the engine blows after 20 miles... what they all doing? They produce stuff for the garbage... i dont understand that..
If their amp can't handle what they say it can they are kind of asking to be put out of business. I'm glad you make these videos keep up the good work.
Especially if it catches on fire.
Hey at least they didn't lie out their ass and multiply the rated power by 7 or 8. I bet if you put 300 amps thru any amp that's in its price range and the same will happen, but yeah it should have over current protection.
This is a misconception with the design of most Brazilian amps. The way dynos read power does something funky with the full bridge amp design. If you put that sub on a subwoofer and then clamp power tested it would do over rated and be very reliable. I personally have that stetsom ex3000eq in my truck for 3 years on a 300a fuse. Ran 2 18s walled at first now I have it running 6 8" mids. It's a fantastic amp that gets a bad reputation from these type of scenarios since you cannot dyno them properly.
@ *ThonotosassaBoy*
You wrote if you put that sub on a subwoofer. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ThonotosassaBoys With how cheap electronics are to manufacture these days, it's just not safe not to have overcurrent protection in the design. As a matter of fact, it's illegal to install any electronic equipment that doesn't have overcurrent protection in most countries for insurance and fire liability reasons. If you want to install some piece of shit equipment like this into your property, be my guest. But don't cry like a baby if your entire vehicle is in flames because the amplifier failed and the fuseing you used was insufficient.
This is why I appreciate this channel so much. This could save some rides and lives. Thanks Dwiz
Love you back 😊
You should never feel guilty or concerned about an amp manufacturer's reputation. You do clean, transparent tests. If the amp can't meet ratings, then that information needs to be public. If the amp fails in a dangerous way, as this one did, then that is a matter of consumer safety. You are perfectly justified to share your findings. Keep up the good work!
The amp might as well have said, "I'm outta heeeeerrrrrreeeeee" 😂😂
trololol!
Do give away amps
The amp was saying "You Big Dummy" to Timpano/Stetsom engineers and their manufacturing departments!
That amp tried to leave the stage like an oldschool magician: Lots of smoke
Too bad it doesnt have any legs to move...
😂😂😂😂
1. No one should buy this amp under any circumstance when there’s other more reliable Brazilian amps out there for close to the same price (I mean you had 2 of them blow up the same way)
2. You da man for doing this public service amp tests and saving people money and possibly their LIFE!!!
3. Excellent work on the edit and capturing it from 3 different angles like a BOSS!
Such a bummer things like this can still happen and I'm afraid attempts to get price so low have affected decisions concerning protection. It's truly scary to think of this happening in a car and the possible outcome.
@@wal My thoughts exactly. You could burn your car to the ground very easily if this was to happen on the highway. I have a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1-5000D in my Mk4 Golf running two Sundown Audio SA12D2s, and I have it wired with 2G battery cable for power and ground with a 200A breaker at the front. These Sundowns are only rated for 500 watts a piece, wired at 2 ohms with the gain only turned half way up on the amp, they SLAM for two 12s, but I'm sure that Soundstream is pulling some major amperage. I paid $175 for that 5000 watt amp (yeah...right), but I have ALWAYS had good luck with Soundstream amps. I had four round Kicker Solobaric 10s on a Soundstream Reference 1000S back in the back of my 92 Integra back in the day. This Rubicon Nano may not make the 5k watts that it's advertised to, but it powers those two Sundown 12s like you wouldn't believe.
Stop spreading misinformation. Just like cheaply designed "Korean (see half bridge)" amps, cheaply designed "Brazilian (see full bridge)" will blow up. I get that you're biased against full bridge amplifiers, but it's factually incorrect and you're misleading people who don't know better.
@@wal I thought it was Chinese? No?
@@wal especially when many people are running lithium batteries and the amps are mounted pretty close to them. Add mpg catches fire, causes the battery to catch, and it's bye bye vehicle and everything in it
Keep blowing up the junk amps and calling them out, man. There is property, and potentially lives, at risk here. Screw these guys.
It’s pretty scary the fire show that occurred...twice
Yeah... Why hide the first amp that burned down? What was it?
@@TheBrokenLife
It was the same brand amplifier. He mentioned it in the beginning of the video.
@@sirnate54 I thought he blew up two identical amplifiers in this video and that was a 3rd one at the beginning? I'm all confused.
@@TheBrokenLife probably for legal reasons. He said the company just about went out of business.
dont feel bad, you just saved peoples budget builds and lives bigd
I got bit by the car audio bug big time back in 2015. I was supposed to be training as a Buddhist monk (I was) but in meditation all I could think about was how I wanted to get my system.
Anyway, I got a new sports car and told myself I'd go the performance route instead of car audio ... and then I decided I couldn't handle the lack of bass and put my sub in.
Annnnnd the bug is back. Your channel has been awesome and inspiring. I love how you don't take yourself too seriously and it's just the facts without any BS. THIS is how I wish all car audio aficionados were.
Thanks, man. Much appreciated.
13:57 smoke is pouring out and the protect light is flashing. So thankful for that protect light.😁
I think the light is for you to take cover!
The indicator is flame powered, and activated.
It's hard to believe that, in this day and age, you have amps like this. Thank God for people like you BigD. This could've caused a fire in someone's vehicle and endangered their lives. Appreciate the video bro. 👍
"Quality you can trust"
Myth: Busted!
IYou can trust them if you need to claim the insurance of your car !!!!
I love the quarter pipe action in the beginning..brought back memories like all the old school amps..your channel is the shiznit
Those were some angry brazillian pixies you let out of that amp
Sparks flying and flames 🔥
Ave👍
People that don't know how to wire correct impedances say Taramps, Stetsom, etc are junk. Get educated.
The opposite of skookum, no chooch at all,.
@@JViello Fellow AvE watcher I see lol
Thanks for your honesty. Companies like this one would take advantage of the consumer if guys like you weren’t around. Thank you again for sticking up for us!
I had the Stetsom Ex-3000eq 1ohm model running @ 0.5ohm and it ran great.
It got pretty hot (went to temperature protect once) at full tilt but it survived. I later replaced it with a Taramps HD 8000 and put it into another build running @ 1ohm. It's still working great.
I had a Stetsom amp running for 10 years now 7kd Stetsom got it service last month some driver and dry strip circuit
So basicly, you bought another Brazilian fire starter
I've seen tons of videos of Brazillian amps (TarAmps and these guys, mostly) burning demo vehicles to the ground. Evidently in South America it is popular for guys to have big ass semis that they turn into "wall of sound" demo trucks. I've seen at least 2 videos of this type of vehicle on fire due to over current just like what happened here. I've also seen videos of cars and trucks full of smoke and fire from these as well. I totally understand why people buy these but imo it isn't worth the risk. No over current protection= russian roulette with every big bass hit. Thank you Big D for the service you provide to the community. You deserve all the views and subs you get and more buddy. Keep up the great work!
Bro I paused the Sunday game just to watch this love the channel and keep it coming
Thanks bro!
@Dave Micolichek lmao who you rolling with
It was a Brazilian amp that started the fires in the Amazon. 😄
That's cold...but funny!
this is not brazilian… this is chinese copy fron stetsom ex3000
@@wagnerbrust But Brazilian made anyway, even internally says "aprovado" , i bet they don't even test every unit and just throw the sticker there.
@@chancho00 is not brazilian.. i have contact on stetsom. I send the vídeo.. this is fake stesom...is not made in Brazil for sure.
@@wagnerbrust good info
"I heard flames, I heard fire" 😅🤣 Another entertaining video. Thanks Big D, 👍
Oh btw I have had my Ignite 6k for 7 months now and it is still bumping hard. Best cheap amp I have ever had. You are a legend!😁 Keep the videos coming!
I dont know if it was because the test was made with 40hz but I have seen a lot of cars and trucks running these Timpanos and Stetsoms for Mid Range and HF Drivers and they work really good. I personally have a Stetsom 3000 for mids and a Stetsom 800 for tweeters and it doesn’t even get hot.
You used two Brazilian junk amplifier, in Brazil have two Brand of amplifier whos trust, the Banda and Soundigital.
Well I have mine on my MR n Tweeters n never had a issue..
does the trouble shooting manual include how to put out fires? :X
Big DWiz: Exposing the truth about various amps
Timpano amp: Iight, Imma head out
5 dislikes must be between people that run these amps & the people that sell them. Lol BOOM BOOM POW 😔
OMG you are funny hahahhahahaha
yea lol. im tryping to buy subs right now and the way i find decent companies and gauge weather theyre good or not is by looking up their amps. if they do their rated power than i might buy from them, if not well...
@Westsidesnooker 2020 still running it buddy and it's been almost 2 yrs and it still works. Nothing against big d wiz but he always tends to push these kind of amps past their limits so of course they burn up instantly and makes them seem like they are nothing but junk. I've never burned an amp from overpowering or under powering so to each his own. Also what do you expect for 200 bucks
@@jeroenschuuring6060 yea, its called up grading my cars electrical and making sure my in line fuses are up to par or underfuse so I don't get those spikes in current and if I do get them, those inline fuses safe me from burning up. I went to school for Electrician so I'm well versed when it comes to electricity but thanks for your 2 cents. Maybe You could ve put me in my place 15 yrs ago but not today sir. Have a good day.
@@jeroenschuuring6060 I'm running stock 120 amp alt and I don't see anything over 100 amps considering im only running 1 15. I'm not competing and Its called a daily driver for a reason. I do have a oscilloscope and multimeter so I think I know how much current my amps and and alt are pulling. You got some nerve trying to tell someone how to live their lives. Where's your High current sound system at. I would like to see what your working with since you talk a big game.
lol, I loved the "boom boom pow" on the test sheet.
Wondered how many peeps would notice 😜
How nice of the amp to go into protection mode AFTER it's gone up in flames.
Amp: *blows up*
Amp after blowing up: *protect*
Great video as always. I would give a double thumbs up if I could. I did buy one of the screwdriver kits you recommended. Sorry about the $220 that went up in smoke.
big D wiz always giving us the truth with these amps ratings, show Is so underrated
Thank you for always looking out for us.... Big D...🙏🙏🙏
Dammit boy! 334 amps when it blew! Hory shet!
From 4ga input too...must use 1/0 adapters
Guys if you’re thinking of buying any timpano amplifiers, check out their channel on RUclips. They have a video up on their channel about why the amp dyno does not count clean along with an oscilloscope. Big D go over and check it out. It was quite interesting.
I like how the protection LED lights _after_ it blows up. Nice touch, Timpano.
Was that you doing the table top air out on the BMX in the intro?! If so that’s really sweet I ride BMX and am into car audio.
Yessir! About 4ft above the ramp. 8ft y’all by 8ft wide. This was in 1986 and I was riding a 1986 Haro FST in green with Peregrine 48’s
Williston Audio Labs never knew you were into BMX too! That is an impressive air! There is no better feeling than airing out and floating a nice table!
Wow....All I can say is thanks for taking the time to test and check the amps that you do...👍🏾..You’re videos are really helpful..Thanks again 🙏🏾
Each TO220 FET (the large package) can roughly handle 75A. The moment voltage starts dropping the current has to go up to keep the same wattage up. Concurrently, efficiency starts dropping as well. The Brazilian amps are pushed to the limits in regards to the current pushed through these things. It's for this reason, and no joke, when people say that Brazilian amps can handle voltage drop. Even when the voltage is in spec, the FETs are pushed to their theoretical limits. The small chassis with no heat-sinking doesn't help either. To compare Fosgate on the BDCP Power lineup also uses large package TO220 but they use more of them, have a well designed protection circuit, very heavy sinks, and push sensible power numbers (the BDCP 1500 does ~2000W RMS / 3000W burst).
I'm so glad I bought that Skar amp. It's been great at pushing two 15's to tracks like "just bass" and "slo rolla"
"Quality you can trust"
I didn’t go there, but that is ironic
Haha. How ironic.
Same company as Stetsom & PRV
This is a great example of "you get what you pay for". Crazy they would sell something like this without a warning of any kind. Just imagine this in someone's trunk and this happening. The owner wouldn't be able to hear or smell it until the trunk was up in flames. A lot of people keep flammable items in the trunk, from clothes and blankets to gas cans. Thx for the video.
Was looking at the Stetsom Export line amps for my build. Really glad I decided against it now. They've gone down hill fast...
I have stetsom 8K 1ohm no issues (13.6V system) and bunch of my friends are using stetsom amps on their huge builds
@@iam-lagger2115 They don't put out nowhere near what they promise. That's why i sold mine. Same with Taramps. When it comes to compact Brazilian amps only brand i would trust is Sound digital.
@@Rentta well we tested stetsom 8k and it gave rated power
@@iam-lagger2115 Someone's a little butt hurt.
@@unclejohn5012 facts my dude
The heck with the companies it’s nice to see their quality and know the truth about them! Keep up the great work Big D Wiz!!!
9:43 AAAAAND SHE GONE
EDIT holy shit, far better timestamp, multiple angles ftw!!!!
Man, I'm sure glad that you do what you do. Not that I would buy one of these anyway, because I don't run that much power on my subs, but that's pretty bad that it blew up like it did.
Test the Stetson with the case off! 😂
This is why I only use brand-name amps for subwoofers. Fosgate, kicker, DC audio. I know there’s others but these guys actually answer the phone and take returns and fix problems
That’s important
Wish I could find the Fbook post where I got berated for making a comment about not wanting to park next to a car with Brazilian amps due to fire hazard.
New rule all Brazilian amps get tested with the covers off. 👍
I hate Brazil amps cause they just shotty products over all.
DAMN it blew up , big time ... Great video Big D , Thanks for the honesty . Now we know what there made of , no caps or protect ...WHAT ??!! Not an amp for subs ..... Keep them coming ...
What's your rca input voltage ?
I know some Brazilian amps will go up in smoke if rca voltage is more than 2v
Jose Hcca Luna The RCA input voltage shouldn’t affect the power supply section. My guess is that it’s not truly 1 ohm stable by design. Or it may not like a 1ohm resistive load.
I was seriously looking at buying this amp, but you had not tested it yet so I waited. Now I’m glad that I did wait! Thank you sir for all of these tests that you do!!!!!!!
Good things come to those who wait 😬
Amp install under the seats for the seat heater!
I was going to order those amps cuz I remember a while back I asked you to review those amp and I am glad that you did I would not be buying those apps. Thank you once again
Imagine if you actually had 4g wire on it, that could have been a much bigger problem, always have an inline fuse in case your power lead melts from over current
And I was thinking about buying a Stetsom amp! Well, not now! Thanks for the video!
From what I have been told by a authorized dealer this made by PVR.Dont know how true that is but I have been told that many of times over.
Stetsom, PRV, Timpano
Wow I ordered the stetsom ex3000 it’s coming in tonight 😂 thanks for saving my m3 from burning down you da man ! 💪🏼💪🏼 I owe you a beer mate thanks
"I love the smell of burnt electronics in the morning."
Said no one ever 😜
@@wal True that!!! 😜
actually no I woulnt because it means my solar inverters are on fire
smells like..... VICTORY.... BiG D for the WIN!!!!
this is one reason why I love the old school amps they are bigger and heavy but they do what they are made for. we thank you for sharing this with us. keep it up . thumps up!
They should pay you for finding the fault of the amp and recall it and fix the issue.
... What aboutt profit. Psht
Really appreciate your honesty. Know you could lie through your teeth, and probably get paid well to do so. One of my favorite channels on You tube! Keep it up.
If you ask me this is the exact reason why you should but a fuse in between the battery and the amp power wire. If the wire had a fuse rated properly for the amp with wire the correct gauge you would never have that problem. The fuse would just blow before it goes over the current pull that would blow the amp.
I would never touch this brand
Stetsom is same company, and world record holder.
Version 2 should be better it’s not hard to get a hold of full bridge tech
Hey Big D. The high current displayed when the amp blew was the power supply fets shorting. Big thumbs up 👍 for you and what you do.
you put like satetson Brazil, but not Stetson this amplifier and a copy
Thanks for the test Big D. Love the great testing procedures you are doing, one of the best out there. Good or bad Big D shows how it is. # 1 stop before purchasing any Amp is right here!
Big D I really like you bro!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
in my eyes im glad you do the testing that you do and i wouldn't feel bad at all about calling out anyone on there equipment that amp should do what it says and it can't with out blowing up so call em out big d you got my support
They should change the name to ignite audio..
I see even audiopipe are getting into full bridge.. $240 3k
Which aoudiopipe amp?
@@jameshooper1382 aphd-3000
They have 2 ohm and 1 ohm
I always like to know about problems like this. Keep up the great work big D. I would rather spend the money on a better amp than have one blow up in my car. I'm interested on what you think of the new SFB line from Sundown and also the McLaren amps.
If the company is knowingly selling crap. Then too bad.
Keep doin the great work this is why I watch your videos before I buy anything. And I certainly wouldn't want that buring my trucks down. You are doing a good service pointing them out to us thank you
Dont want that in my car without full coverage lol
Honestly this amp is probably a 4 ohm ideal 2 ohm min amp which they tested to play music at 1 ohm for a song and didn't blow up. If the power supply FETs were replaced with high quality ones chances is this amp would be fine.
Feeding the algorithm. People need to see this
I know you probably won't see my comment, but man I appreciate everything you do.I make my decisions on my amp purchases from your videos.
Dont recommend a smaller fuse, just recommend ppl dont buy them. lol
Well there’s that...
I have ran these for a while now I have yet to have one fail on me..... I fallow Brazilian amp rules..... Wire above rated by half an ohm..... Don't feed with more than 14.8 volts..... Don't feed with more than 1.5 volts of rca signal.... Don't get up to clipping..... Tune to the cleanest signal possible.... And if you want 2500 watts buy 5k
Thanks for taking one for the team!
Dang I just bought 2 of these to run each of my 2 sundown x 18" for xmas....jk bahaha 🤣🤣🤣 get this crap off the market and go out of biz. Bahaha great review bahaha are you sure that wasn't a blowville bahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Damn that sucks. Maybe youd actually be loud if you ran then 😂
I can's help to notice that the protection light is blinking AFTER the amplifier went BANG! That BANG was almost worthy of Big Clive's youtube channel!
Yeah it notices there is a problem a bit too late
Wow, comes standard with a fog machine and it’s own pyrotechnics. What’s everybody complaining about? It’s like being at a live show.
I actually don't see anything wrong with you showing these types of videos. If a company goes out of business because of a video like this then so be it. It's their fault for not selling a quality product. So thank you for doing the right thing and informing us of a dangerous product.
Definitely appreciate your honesty and for posting this... great video as usual 👍
In the video the amp starts at 15.23 volts dynos then dynos again at 15.01 that's the equivalent of burping twice in a row. This will cause most amps to blow or protect. I ran Brazilian amps similar fine at 14.8 15 volts plus will cause them to blow. Start at 14.8 see what happens
I always like these vids. I am looking for amps right now. I have been watching the vids for a while. Thank you for all of your videos.
Hey, from down under. Did you say you had similar problems with Stetsoms? I own a 4K5EV which is fused at 200amp X 2 (twin 0ga positive and negatives), is this too high? I will have to watch it during comps.
Thanks for quality videos, keep it up.
Yes, not just me though, others who have tried the Stetsom based amps on Dyno’s have seen them go poof! Just be careful brother
Big D saves the day again! I actually found their amps via their speakers and had my reservations about a rebadged Brazil made amplifier and it turns out my gut was right! Timpano, used to be Tempesta in Italy and all they made were speakers. Good speakers...VERY good speakers for the commercial audio market. PRV bought them (Probably for the speaker tech) and decided to make the name more "Latino" and into a full line brand. They probably should have gone to Taramps or PowerUs instead. Lost opportunity. Thanks for saving me a few hundred bucks BigD...you ain't no "big dummy"!
Edit cause I'm a big dummy and can't spell.
I ran one of these amps for over a year on 2 Sundown SA 15s. I ended up going with the Sundown SFB 2000. I thought the 3000 went out turned out to just be I needed to replace the ground wire. Amp was fine. Now the Sundown is much cleaner and has more power.
I'm a budget bass head, I run the power acoustic 2,500d amplifier, I know it only has 650 watts out put but I dont have to worry about it blowing up, and its pushing my wdx db drive 15"sub just fine
Fire extinguisher tip: Get A CO2 extinguisher for the lab. When you use this, it puts out CO2 and puts the fire out and doesn't leave a mess. Carbon Dioxide is commonly used around electrical and electronic equipment due to it being so clean, just don't use it on wood or paper fires.
Big D, based on a ton of your amp dynos, is it the norm these days for car audio amps to be rated at 2 or 3 times what they can actually deliver? As a teenager in the 80's paying alot of hard pay cash for Alpine and JVC amps I and my buddies played for, are amps today different than when my friends and I payed all that money? They seemed to be bad ass back then with no problems, with 12 band x2 EQs, and crossovers. Now, we are in our early 50's, and have money for our rides, but your channel may be showing us we are getting ripped for our money on the power. We have noticed it. My friends and I, all agree the sound is NOT the same. Can you do a video that might explain how we should approach buying power for our classic old school rides? We used to put 4 6x9 monos in the back window with enclosures and listen to Boston, and rattle our teeth. What has changed? My pro restoration shop is watching and listening to your channel. Are we being cheated on our amps? Thank you!
From an end user perspective and obe who is making 2 car payments a month along with a mortgage... We thank you for these videos! The vehicle and house are the 2 most expensive investments in life. I don't want something like this in any of my family's or customers vehicles. Safety has to always come first. If this were in someone's trunk and quit while they were in traffic or on the turnpike where they couldn't get off the road and actually caught something on fire... Now everyone has a major problem
Man seeing those Art Series amps at the end brought back some memories!
Beautiful!!
I've seen this on other equipment as well. It is usually the traces on the circuit board that are not heavy enough to carry the current. The original circuit boards may have been made with two ounce or heavier copper. Then someone in production uses one ounce copper boards because they are much cheaper. On Chinese stuff that gets copied, the copies may be using thin copper because they don't know what they're doing, or care for that matter.
Screw them Big D! If their amp is cheap trash and it goes up in smoke then, it’s a wake up call to improve their product! I love your videos and the honesty. Don’t change a thing!! 👍👍😎
Thumbs up 👍🏾 for the “boom boom pow” on the chart! 💥
Love the ominous music, too!!!
Bid D i always watch your videos before i buy anything!! Thank you for what you do sir.
Fuses are designed to snap at around 1.5x to 2x the current the fuse is rated for. This way the fuse won't snap every time you hit 60 amps on an amp with 2x30a fuses, but it will snap when you short and send 120amps + to the fuse.
Thank you so much!! I appreciate you hard work to show us what's is the best amps!
This is the exact reason I won't bother with Brazilian full bridge amps. I know there are some more reliable brands, but from what I've seen and heard, they all end up blowing at some point. Thanks for informing the community, Big D. You might have saved a car or two from burning to the ground.
There's a guy in south Africa. That repairs amps, he infact said that the amp circuit he repaired was stronger due to better ics used. I'm assuming that In getting better ics could improve it