He phrased it that way because if it were 9, he at least ties. So it was a question of whether he'd get 9 (tie) or 10 (win). But he shockingly got 8 instead, turning it into a loser
I remember watching Belmonte's match with a lot of people during a collegiate tournament in Indiana. To say everyone was shocked was an understatement.
I commend Chris Barnes on the first clip for not just picking up his ball and chucking it through a solid window lol. Stone 8 followed by a 10 pin to lose. Both looked like perfect shots. Although Walter Ray i could see it too lol. Leaving the 8-10 on a shot that nice? Wtf lol
That lack of angle on the ball makes it hit very flat and weak. There's no way anybody leaves an 8-10 unless you're bowling too straight. Walter's style works because he rarely misses the pocket, even when the oil pattern is hard. But his strike percentage is significantly lower than people that hook the ball more.
Randy’s stone eight was absolutely horrific and what made it worse was Schlagel being a jerk about it. Not gonna lie I lost a lot of respect for Ernie after that one.
@@mallboss1219 Ernie was a big time "money bowler" and talked a lot of crap during these pot games....He was damn near impossible to beat in a pot game. That said, he approached everything like it was a pot game
Missing Belmo’s 7 pin from the 2010 Plastic Ball Championship rolloff. There’s rumors that the head pin is still in orbit over Babylon Lanes to this day.
I loved bowling as a kid. Couldn't afford to keep doing it. I was good to, at 12 I was bowling between 150s and 180s. Had to quit and give it up for years. Bowled a half a dozen times in 20 years and could barely break 100. Finally convinced the wife that I wanted a couple of good bowling balls and finally got them before the quarantine and got to bowl 5 or 6 times trying to start over and find a mark. Slowly improving my game. I hit 200 just before the quarantine when everything shut down. Been bowling once since it reopened and came so close to breaking 200 on my last game, but got screwed by the 8 I believe, got that, then on the shot I got 9. Total score 199. I was so freaking mad. Can't wait to get back on the lanes. Maybe tomorrow. All in all I think I'm doing good for not doing it everyday.
In a tourney I bowled in years ago, missed out on $10k that would have been a 300. 3 solid 8 pins in the game. Best game I have ever thrown with every shot in the pocket. I've had 300's before with a little action but never perfect shots. I feel for these guys.
VideoGamingFan nice to see you again and you are correct it was a very bad break. Do you know what time (eastern time) is bowling planet’s premiere tomorrow
I'm surprised that Pete Weber's name isn't even mentioned ONCE in this entire video clip. Amazing! But, as for these guys that lost, ya really had to feel for them. As for Ernie Schlegel, the dude that won his match against Randy Pederson, though, talk about a Rub-It-In-Your-Face kind of a jerk, he's DEFINITELY it! With Patrick Allen, at least he had the common sense to weep and cry for joy elsewhere, when Walter Ray Williams, Jr. Threw his losing shot. Walter Ray accepted his loss without losing his temper and cussing, unlike a certain "Pete Weber" would have, had he lost. When it comes down to poor sportsmanship, people like Pete Weber and the guy that won against Randy Pederson, those guys have the type of temperaments that this whole World can do without!
I thought Belmote's two pocket 7-10s were worse. I saw those happen live! They still don't match my 5 pocket 7-10s in one game. Kept adjusting, and they still kept coming. Of course PBA championships weren't on the line on league night!
I once witnessed a 298 by my doubles partner, the final shot was the 7-10 split. That is really odd to carry that well to then lose carry of both corner pins on the same shot
That's just how it is sometimes my man. A few years back, my alley in Connecticut was hosting a sport shot tournament. I qualified in the fifth seed spot, but lost the first match because my opponent literally carried strikes off of horrible shots. Going through the nose, extremely light domino mixers etc. I hate being that guy, but I definitely made better quality shots that just could not put all 10 back. Ringing 10, stone 7's, 8's I just couldn't figure out what to do. Moved left to shape it more, moved back right getting my hand behind the ball and just couldn't carry. When you feel like you're making great shots that aren't carrying is super frustrating. The lane gives and takes away.
I never rolled a perfect game despite carrying scratch average in league for years. I was rolling through a game one time, lanes felt good and I was crushing the pocket. Had one frame where I came in light and got the mixer carry, and in the 8th I crossed over, just a errant shot, and the rack just exploded. So even when I missed, the bowling Gods were thinking of me. First shot 10th frame, I was starting to wonder. Could it be my day? I lined up and let it rip, lots of action, rack just blew up, and stone 8. I never got that close again. It just never happened.
In 2009, my friend and I were in the finals of a pretty big Bakers Doubles Tournament at Circle Lanes in East Haven, CT. So he's going to bowl the tenth this game. He needs two strikes and at least 9 for us to tie and force a rolloff, or strike out to win. He throws the first two ten back, 12th shot pocket 7-10 and we lose by one. That was a long drive home for us. Great shot that just didn't carry.
Belmo’s 7-10 Twice are worse than Barnes’ cause it’s leading to Belmo’s 11th Major and all his shots were 100% Perfect Pocket Shots, plus it’s on the exact same Left Lane and still good shots but bad Pin Action. If these were Twister Synthetic Pins, the Headpin would’ve kick out the 10
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 his shots were not 100% perfect. THey were late into the pocket creating a light hit. You almost always leave the 10 at a minimum when you have the reve rate he does along with the late entry.
Malory: hit high pocket with a 8-10 degree entry angle and your ball will NEVER touch the 9-pin. Some other pin has to take it out for you. Most of the time it does, but don't cry if the 9-pin stands. On a proper strike the ball is supposed to get the 1-3-5 and 9 pins. The resin ball giveth (sick carry on light hits) and the resin ball take the away. Barnes: tough break, no doubt about it. The head pin got in between the ball and the 5-pin and prevented the ball from pushing the 5 into the 8. Ditto with Peterson's solid 8. Belmonte: same thing happened on both 7-10's. Light hit, head pin caromed off the front of the 2-pin and came across the lane, missing both corner pins. Ball hitting so strongly that the 5-pin blew over behind the 7-pin, instead of knocking it over. Ball hitting so strongly that you see something that almost never happens on a half-pocket hit: 6-pin wraps around the 10-pin like a ringing 10. Don't complain about it, Jason: the resin ball giveth and the resin ball taketh away. I have gotten so sick of leaving high-flush 9's and light-pocket ringing 10's that I have cut my entry angle down to about 3 degrees and dropped to a 14 pound ball. Now I almost never leave a high-flush 9 or a ringing 10. On the hit where you see a lot of ringing 10's by high entry angle players my ball deflects a bit so the 6-pin will snap out the 10. I might leave an occasional 5-7 or 8-10, but to me that is better than looking at solid 9's and ringing 10's all night. Deadeye: made two great shots, going for the high hard one on the last shot. Threw a waterball and got just what you deserved.
Honorable mention: Mika Koivuniemi at the PBA’s Lumber Liquidators 68th U.S. Open in 2011 _whiffing_ the 10 pin in his final frame of the championship match against Norm Duke.
If I was him, I wouldn't, either, especially in light of the circumstances. Ernie Schlegel, off celebrating like a goof, while poor Randy has to swallow the bitter pill of defeat...man,that's like rubbing salt into an open wound. It makes what happened hurt all the more!
Leaving a solid 8 pin is the worst break in bowling next to a pocket 7-10. Jason Belmonte left two ringing 7-10 splits in one game which is really rare.
2 light hits & w/o the usual amount of fantastic luck he gets with the light messenger pin--i've seen vids of him leaving that over a dozen times just not twice in the same game
Disagree. Walter Ray's shot was fast and flat and should have been a 10 pin at best. Randy absolutely flushed the pocket and caught the one true tap in bowling.
leaving an 8 - 10 isn't a bad break. it's a horrible shot. no hand, too much speed and you get a big splat! i've seen puke hit the floor harder than that ball did the pins
Not really because belmo still had a small chance of winning if simo missed the spare. And for Randy he threw a perfect shot and just got ruined. Belmos shot was weak and would've gone 10 Pin or mixer 4 even if it was better so. Idk really. I think Randy's was worse 😂
Some people have different names for the dreaded 7-10 split. I call it the "Vampire Fangs" of bowling...easy to create, but nearly impossible to knock down!
I remember watching that 8 10 by Walter Ray live, but I knew something bad was going to happen when he missed left and didn't get the ball to the dry part on Cheetah.
Totally agree. I don't think even think it's Top 1000 worst Breaks in PBA History. It was a little high in the pocket with tons of angle... you'll leave 9 pins all day on that line. The other 4 of the Top 5 are legit though. 2 stone 8's, an 8-10 and a pair of pocket 7-10's in same game with the lead entering the 10th. Ironically, not only did Wes Malott's 9-pin have no business being on here... he also got lucky to win the 2009 Player of the Year due to Chris Barnes 8-pin. If Barnes carries the 8-pin, he bowls Duke in the finals and the winner of that match is PotY.
Maybe I'm a bad guy, but I'm going to go ahead disagree that a high pocket 9-pin leave is one of the top 5 "bad breaks" of all time in the PBA. Also, I was in the stadium for #1 in Pittsburgh, as I had been a youth that had bowled in the TPC Pro-Am in Harmerville.
I'd take it a step further and say that Malott's very high pocket 9-pin leave off the gutter wasn't even a bad break. Yes, it could have carried, but you could see this leave coming a mile away. That shot had 4-9 written all over it. On top of that, it was in the 9th frame and carrying that strike he still was 12 pins down. Even if Malott carried that strike and struck out in the 10th for 244, Mike Fagan shot 252. Final score was 252-212. How is it a Top 5 bad break if he still loses either way?
At least PA was a bit respectful about it and calmed down and shook Walter Ray’s hand, Schlegel just didn’t care and acted like he was the greatest of all time. He rubbed it in Randy’s face. I feel bad for Randy too. Poor guy!
You're still better than I am. The highest I ever shot was a mere 202. I wasn't a regular bowler, though, and for me to get that high of a score was great for me! (Oh, well... I'm a fisherman, anyway...I love catchin' me some fish)!!!🎣🎣🎣😀😀😀
I still love bowling but tbh I haven't watched much of the PBA in many years now. About ever since the two handed bowlers really came into play, though that's not my reason. I miss seeing these names on Sundays 0:20 Tommy Jones, Parker Bohn, Pete Weber, Jason Couch, Mika, Mike Wolfe some others that aren't on that list. I mention Wolfe because I see him frequently at my bowling alley in Louisville, KY. He owns a shop inside.
I started bowling again a couple of years ago after a very long break from it. It was the first time I ever saw anyone doing the two-handed thing. We all wondered if it was allowed in actual competition. I guess it is!
Bad as that was, southpaw Earl Anthony being robbed of a 300 with a stone-9 (whose video seems lost totally in cyberspace) in 1977-ish was a real heartbreaker. Shot was near-perfect (think Randy Pederson’s shot in a mirror). IIRC Anthony won the tournament anyway, and was handed the actual 9-pin, to “let him do with it whatever he wished.”
I have had this happen to me. I bowl on my high school’s bowling team and we were in the state semifinals. I needed a double in the 10th to send us to the state championship. I got the first, but then left a solid 8 and it cost us a trip to the state championship
IMO, Belmo's shots were late into the pocket. From my experience, late into the pocket leaves 10 pins. The fact the 7s were left too was just rubbing salt into the wound. Walter Rays shot was also a tad late and flat. That's perfect for leaving an 8 pin. Not enough drive for the ball to take it out. .
One of the worst breaks I've ever seen even though there's only a short clip of it online, was the 1974 Cleveland Open where Earl Anthony left a stone 9 on his 12th shot when going for a perfect game.
There was also Chris Barnes losing to Michael Haugen Jr. at the TOC. Mika's bad break to Patrick Allen at the US Open, and PA going off about it. I feel for Randy Pedersen about that 1995 event. I watched that one on tv and I couldn't believe how much of an asshole Ernie Schlegel was about that. Such poor sportsmanship, and during his 2 matches, you can hear him going you're mine. Another thing I couldn't stand either was Earl Anthony praising Ernie throughout the telecast.
You can make an entire full-length movie about Chris Barnes' bad breaks, but I think a lot is brought on himself. He still managed to win 20 titles. The thing with Mika was that he was saying before the match that he ate lefties for breakfast, which is why PA gave it to him. Ernie was a pot and action bowler, and a trash talker at that's part of the action game. Randy also blamed a fan, not his bad execution, for failing to make the exempt tour. Still Randy more than doubled Ernie's win total, and Ernie bowled in everything, so I'm sure Randy got the last laugh.
I still have and throw that LevRG Response at about the same rev rate that WRW was throwing here. How in the hell that ball left that split on a short pattern like Cheetah from that angle flummoxes me to this day.
OMG that was riveting - he missed a pin. I'm hooked now, I have to watch bowlling all day LOL. ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................
About that first one, Chris Barnes: Is it being a d___ to ask if it wasn't all that perfect a shot? It looks to me like he was extra-tense (which is understandable, and not fatal) and that he sort of 'dropped' the ball, let it go a smidgen early and didn't really get lift on it. I don't find it surprising that it didn't carry.
Too be fair Belmo has had some of the luckiest major matches I've ever seen. Not that he didn't bowl well but his opponents had the same luck he did here.
Duke had one early in last year's senior tour. He led the whole tournament, and in the final game, for the cup, it was in the bag, his opponent was already taking his shoes off, and he throws a pocket 7-10 in the tenth frame and loses!
“Oh my god that’s a loser” funniest thing I’ve heard a commentator say
Lol why is it so funny? I’m laughing my ass off too
That was randy
He phrased it that way because if it were 9, he at least ties. So it was a question of whether he'd get 9 (tie) or 10 (win). But he shockingly got 8 instead, turning it into a loser
I remember watching Belmonte's match with a lot of people during a collegiate tournament in Indiana. To say everyone was shocked was an understatement.
I commend Chris Barnes on the first clip for not just picking up his ball and chucking it through a solid window lol. Stone 8 followed by a 10 pin to lose. Both looked like perfect shots. Although Walter Ray i could see it too lol. Leaving the 8-10 on a shot that nice? Wtf lol
Someone said that Walter Ray was so visibly pissed off after leaving the 8-10 to lose that people didn’t want to be anywhere near him.
That lack of angle on the ball makes it hit very flat and weak. There's no way anybody leaves an 8-10 unless you're bowling too straight. Walter's style works because he rarely misses the pocket, even when the oil pattern is hard. But his strike percentage is significantly lower than people that hook the ball more.
Walters shot was really not very good
Bowling...such a simple game to play, but incredibly hard to master.
Ah si quiero see ya jugando pa que si eres bueno huevon. Debes be a big bulton.
You can do everything right and it just doesn’t go way your way. Bowling... she’s a cruel mistress.
@@kibitznec700 right then mate
Yep. Went bowling today? Got 5 gutters in a row and I’m trying. Usually because I suck at bowling. I got 1 strike but it counted as a spare
Never cared much for the scoring
Randy’s stone eight was absolutely horrific and what made it worse was Schlagel being a jerk about it. Not gonna lie I lost a lot of respect for Ernie after that one.
Schlagel was and is an ass!
@@mallboss1219 Ernie was a big time "money bowler" and talked a lot of crap during these pot games....He was damn near impossible to beat in a pot game. That said, he approached everything like it was a pot game
Schlagel never did play with a full deck. I found it quite comical myself!
I would still be beating Ernie’s ass if I were Randy.
Schlegel was a perfect combo of awesome and horrific lol
Part of the Petersen brutality is the completely awkward reaction of Schlegel after. I saw that live as a teenager and it still haunts me.
The ESPN Broadcaster Randy Pedersen leaving a solid 8 pin and losing by one pin in 1995 will still be unforgettable.
I put that along with Pete Weber winning his 5th US Open as the 2 biggest highlights (lowlight for Randy) in PBA history
Good thing for Ernie that Randy wasn't packing a pistol 🎳
@@ringing7 Damn right!
One could argue it is the single biggest moment in bowling history.
@@JasonEmerson711 belmo
IDK if it was PBA but Del Ballard Jr. guttering vs Pete Weber on the final shot gotta be up there
Missing Belmo’s 7 pin from the 2010 Plastic Ball Championship rolloff. There’s rumors that the head pin is still in orbit over Babylon Lanes to this day.
That high flush 7 was sick.
Can confirm. Saw the pin on satellite picture floating over East Moriches.
I haven't watched televised bowling in years. I didn't even recognize that was Babylon Lanes.
Randy: That is the worst luck i have ever seen 4:03
Also Randy: 7:20
One bad break not on here.....Pete Weber’s US open trophy breaking
"Who do you think you are?! I am!!!"
I remember being a little kid in love with the PBA and finally got to hit the lanes IRL and go so HYPED when I left a Stone 8 just like the pros
I loved bowling as a kid. Couldn't afford to keep doing it. I was good to, at 12 I was bowling between 150s and 180s. Had to quit and give it up for years. Bowled a half a dozen times in 20 years and could barely break 100. Finally convinced the wife that I wanted a couple of good bowling balls and finally got them before the quarantine and got to bowl 5 or 6 times trying to start over and find a mark. Slowly improving my game. I hit 200 just before the quarantine when everything shut down. Been bowling once since it reopened and came so close to breaking 200 on my last game, but got screwed by the 8 I believe, got that, then on the shot I got 9. Total score 199. I was so freaking mad. Can't wait to get back on the lanes. Maybe tomorrow. All in all I think I'm doing good for not doing it everyday.
congratulations dude!
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
I always started out really good after a big layoff and then I would get worse.
Yay another thing to watch in quarantine
You are everywhere dude haha ^^
Yea I am
I always like having a comment everywhere and I appreciate all the likes that people give me
@@cristianoirizarryaz yeah me too ^^
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It's 1:57AM and I'm watching a top 5 video for a sport I haven't played since I last went to a birthday party as a kid. Thanks YT algorithm!
In a tourney I bowled in years ago, missed out on $10k that would have been a 300. 3 solid 8 pins in the game. Best game I have ever thrown with every shot in the pocket. I've had 300's before with a little action but never perfect shots. I feel for these guys.
Everyone knew what was coming when they saw the thumbnail 😖😲
Bowling Planet what time (eastern time) is the premiere of norm duke’s greatest wins tomorrow
Yep, probably the Worst break by Jason Belmonte in his entire career. 😊🎳🎳😊
VideoGamingFan nice to see you again and you are correct it was a very bad break. Do you know what time (eastern time) is bowling planet’s premiere tomorrow
Bowling Planet i love your videos
I'm surprised that Pete Weber's name isn't even mentioned ONCE in this entire video clip. Amazing! But, as for these guys that lost, ya really had to feel for them. As for Ernie Schlegel, the dude that won his match against Randy Pederson, though, talk about a Rub-It-In-Your-Face kind of a jerk, he's DEFINITELY it! With Patrick Allen, at least he had the common sense to weep and cry for joy elsewhere, when Walter Ray Williams, Jr. Threw his losing shot. Walter Ray accepted his loss without losing his temper and cussing, unlike a certain "Pete Weber" would have, had he lost. When it comes down to poor sportsmanship, people like Pete Weber and the guy that won against Randy Pederson, those guys have the type of temperaments that this whole World can do without!
"He just lost the tournament!"
Trolling poor Randy. "They won't put two solid 8's in one video, will they?"
The glaringly obvious reason would be because Chris Barnes still had the chance to tie the match after his stone 8.
I thought Belmote's two pocket 7-10s were worse. I saw those happen live! They still don't match my 5 pocket 7-10s in one game. Kept adjusting, and they still kept coming. Of course PBA championships weren't on the line on league night!
Damn that’s a lot of 7-10s lol. You probably needed to clean your ball.
I once witnessed a 298 by my doubles partner, the final shot was the 7-10 split. That is really odd to carry that well to then lose carry of both corner pins on the same shot
Two years ago I did almost the reverse of that: pocket 7-10 in the first frame then ran off 11 for the mythical 279-with-an-open.
Hell of a way to lose a 300
That's just how it is sometimes my man. A few years back, my alley in Connecticut was hosting a sport shot tournament. I qualified in the fifth seed spot, but lost the first match because my opponent literally carried strikes off of horrible shots. Going through the nose, extremely light domino mixers etc. I hate being that guy, but I definitely made better quality shots that just could not put all 10 back. Ringing 10, stone 7's, 8's I just couldn't figure out what to do. Moved left to shape it more, moved back right getting my hand behind the ball and just couldn't carry. When you feel like you're making great shots that aren't carrying is super frustrating. The lane gives and takes away.
I’ve done both. 7-10 in the first for a 279 and a 7-10 on the final shot for 298
I never rolled a perfect game despite carrying scratch average in league for years.
I was rolling through a game one time, lanes felt good and I was crushing the pocket. Had one frame where I came in light and got the mixer carry, and in the 8th I crossed over, just a errant shot, and the rack just exploded. So even when I missed, the bowling Gods were thinking of me.
First shot 10th frame, I was starting to wonder. Could it be my day? I lined up and let it rip, lots of action, rack just blew up, and stone 8.
I never got that close again. It just never happened.
The cleanest, nastiest, disgusting 8-pin in history. That thing was so clean, it's almost "unbelievable" 🤣
I once bowled a solid strike and had a pin bounce off the lane and stand up again! I was completely dumbstruck!
I lost so much respect for ernie after that 8, c'mon man, at least tell him that he did a good job, dang though that is harsh...
Seriously that was one of the most classless acts ever caught on film.
In 2009, my friend and I were in the finals of a pretty big Bakers Doubles Tournament at Circle Lanes in East Haven, CT. So he's going to bowl the tenth this game. He needs two strikes and at least 9 for us to tie and force a rolloff, or strike out to win. He throws the first two ten back, 12th shot pocket 7-10 and we lose by one. That was a long drive home for us. Great shot that just didn't carry.
Barnes' BACK-TO-BACK 7-10 during the 2011 PBA Playoffs were AWFUL!
And in that show Barnes get 7/10 split two times in a row x) Belmo has 7:10 split on 4th and 10th frame ^^
Belmo’s 7-10 Twice are worse than Barnes’ cause it’s leading to Belmo’s 11th Major and all his shots were 100% Perfect Pocket Shots, plus it’s on the exact same Left Lane and still good shots but bad Pin Action. If these were Twister Synthetic Pins, the Headpin would’ve kick out the 10
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 his shots were not 100% perfect. THey were late into the pocket creating a light hit. You almost always leave the 10 at a minimum when you have the reve rate he does along with the late entry.
I knew Randy’s stone 8 would be here! Yikes, always gives me the chills 😖😬
Malory: hit high pocket with a 8-10 degree entry angle and your ball will NEVER touch the 9-pin. Some other pin has to take it out for you. Most of the time it does, but don't cry if the 9-pin stands. On a proper strike the ball is supposed to get the 1-3-5 and 9 pins. The resin ball giveth (sick carry on light hits) and the resin ball take the away.
Barnes: tough break, no doubt about it. The head pin got in between the ball and the 5-pin and prevented the ball from pushing the 5 into the 8. Ditto with Peterson's solid 8.
Belmonte: same thing happened on both 7-10's. Light hit, head pin caromed off the front of the 2-pin and came across the lane, missing both corner pins. Ball hitting so strongly that the 5-pin blew over behind the 7-pin, instead of knocking it over. Ball hitting so strongly that you see something that almost never happens on a half-pocket hit: 6-pin wraps around the 10-pin like a ringing 10. Don't complain about it, Jason: the resin ball giveth and the resin ball taketh away. I have gotten so sick of leaving high-flush 9's and light-pocket ringing 10's that I have cut my entry angle down to about 3 degrees and dropped to a 14 pound ball. Now I almost never leave a high-flush 9 or a ringing 10. On the hit where you see a lot of ringing 10's by high entry angle players my ball deflects a bit so the 6-pin will snap out the 10. I might leave an occasional 5-7 or 8-10, but to me that is better than looking at solid 9's and ringing 10's all night.
Deadeye: made two great shots, going for the high hard one on the last shot. Threw a waterball and got just what you deserved.
This is such a painful video to watch but love it regardless
The late, great Don Johnson, 'The Kokomo Kid'? 1970 on PBA Bowling Show, left a solid 10 pin when going for a perfect game in the finals.
Honorable mention: Mika Koivuniemi at the PBA’s Lumber Liquidators 68th U.S. Open in 2011 _whiffing_ the 10 pin in his final frame of the championship match against Norm Duke.
Whiffing on a spare is NOT a bad break; its poor execution. These clips are perfect shots that got hosed....
@@shield8430 To me it looks like he short-armed it. I think that's why he missed.
Randy Pederson does NOT approve of this upload 😂😂
You need to sit there like a little statue...
If I was him, I wouldn't, either, especially in light of the circumstances. Ernie Schlegel, off celebrating like a goof, while poor Randy has to swallow the bitter pill of defeat...man,that's like rubbing salt into an open wound. It makes what happened hurt all the more!
Actually the Randy Pedersen Stone 8 against Ernie Schlegel is the worst break in all of televised bowling history...
Leaving a solid 8 pin is the worst break in bowling next to a pocket 7-10.
Jason Belmonte left two ringing 7-10 splits in one game which is really rare.
I completely agree.
2 light hits & w/o the usual amount of fantastic luck he gets with the light messenger pin--i've seen vids of him leaving that over a dozen times just not twice in the same game
@@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 Same kid from next door boasting he knows the multiplication table to a Fields Medal winner.
Schlegel with the class move
I feel Walter Ray's 8 10 should've been number 1, by far!!
Disagree. Walter Ray's shot was fast and flat and should have been a 10 pin at best. Randy absolutely flushed the pocket and caught the one true tap in bowling.
leaving an 8 - 10 isn't a bad break. it's a horrible shot. no hand, too much speed and you get a big splat! i've seen puke hit the floor harder than that ball did the pins
@@robertfisher1469 Don't be silly. No matter how the pocket is hit, leaving an 8-10 is ridiculously rare.
The worst break in bowling history is ABC not recognizing Glenn Alison's 900 because they didn't have an award for it!
Randy Pedersen after every leave: "I know a little bit about that."
1974 Cleveland Open (it was televised): Earl Anthony leaves a stone 9 on his 12th ball for a 299.
You could add (yes it's internet fed TV): Andrew Anderson (2018), Osku Palermaa (2015), Bill O'Neill (2014) with pins the stood back up !!!
Honestly, I think Belmos 7-10s are worse than Randy's 8pin. Although, I think that cost Randy POTY too. Can't exactly remember for sure 🤔
Not really because belmo still had a small chance of winning if simo missed the spare. And for Randy he threw a perfect shot and just got ruined. Belmos shot was weak and would've gone 10 Pin or mixer 4 even if it was better so. Idk really. I think Randy's was worse 😂
@Akbar Shabazz-Jenkins beileve me sometimes rev rate doesn't cut it. It's just how you throw it. I'm a 2 hander and it really depends how you throw it
Some people have different names for the dreaded 7-10 split. I call it the "Vampire Fangs" of bowling...easy to create, but nearly impossible to knock down!
The Ballard Ball missing from the list?
How Randy didn't tackle Ernie I will never know.
They will NOT leave Randy alone. #freestone8
I CANT BELIEVE HE 8-10d ON SHARK...
Cheetah hoss..
I remember watching that 8 10 by Walter Ray live, but I knew something bad was going to happen when he missed left and didn't get the ball to the dry part on Cheetah.
#4 doesn’t belong here. He was down by 22 when he left it.
He could've struck out and forced fagan to actually do something
@@jakesnussbuster3565 yes, the match wasn’t over and it was unlucky, but it’s not an all time bad break.
Totally agree. I don't think even think it's Top 1000 worst Breaks in PBA History. It was a little high in the pocket with tons of angle... you'll leave 9 pins all day on that line.
The other 4 of the Top 5 are legit though. 2 stone 8's, an 8-10 and a pair of pocket 7-10's in same game with the lead entering the 10th.
Ironically, not only did Wes Malott's 9-pin have no business being on here... he also got lucky to win the 2009 Player of the Year due to Chris Barnes 8-pin. If Barnes carries the 8-pin, he bowls Duke in the finals and the winner of that match is PotY.
Maybe I'm a bad guy, but I'm going to go ahead disagree that a high pocket 9-pin leave is one of the top 5 "bad breaks" of all time in the PBA. Also, I was in the stadium for #1 in Pittsburgh, as I had been a youth that had bowled in the TPC Pro-Am in Harmerville.
I'd take it a step further and say that Malott's very high pocket 9-pin leave off the gutter wasn't even a bad break. Yes, it could have carried, but you could see this leave coming a mile away. That shot had 4-9 written all over it.
On top of that, it was in the 9th frame and carrying that strike he still was 12 pins down. Even if Malott carried that strike and struck out in the 10th for 244, Mike Fagan shot 252. Final score was 252-212.
How is it a Top 5 bad break if he still loses either way?
Yeah shouldn’t be included in this for bad breaks it was early right off his hand could of easily went 4/9
I still feel bad for Randy because No One will get over it
Slimy Guy reaction A really low class reaction from Ernie Schlegel after the 8 pin from Randy
@@robertblaney5033 Allen"s reaction to Walter Ray's 8-10 was pretty similar.. But it was just shorter
At least PA was a bit respectful about it and calmed down and shook Walter Ray’s hand, Schlegel just didn’t care and acted like he was the greatest of all time. He rubbed it in Randy’s face. I feel bad for Randy too. Poor guy!
@@Ewigi If I ever see Schlegel, I'll be struggling to hold back going off on him with a tirade of racial slurs and assault.
I bowled 35 years and had 5 290 games with leaving one pin on the first ball. Never shot a 300..
You're still better than I am. The highest I ever shot was a mere 202. I wasn't a regular bowler, though, and for me to get that high of a score was great for me! (Oh, well... I'm a fisherman, anyway...I love catchin' me some fish)!!!🎣🎣🎣😀😀😀
I still love bowling but tbh I haven't watched much of the PBA in many years now. About ever since the two handed bowlers really came into play, though that's not my reason. I miss seeing these names on Sundays 0:20
Tommy Jones, Parker Bohn, Pete Weber, Jason Couch, Mika, Mike Wolfe some others that aren't on that list. I mention Wolfe because I see him frequently at my bowling alley in Louisville, KY. He owns a shop inside.
I started bowling again a couple of years ago after a very long break from it. It was the first time I ever saw anyone doing the two-handed thing. We all wondered if it was allowed in actual competition. I guess it is!
Check out Wolfe's 8 pin in the 07 Japan Cup. That game didn't go well for him. That frame summed it up! Brutal. But in tune with this subject matter
Ernie and Patrick should still be embarrassed for their reactions.
Funny because these are better than 95% of mine 😂😂😂
The music sounds like the song safety dance, u know we can dance. We can dance everything is under control!!
Replace WWR Jr's 8-10 and in its place Don Johnson's ringing 10 on his 12th ball for a 300.
Bad as that was, southpaw Earl Anthony being robbed of a 300 with a stone-9 (whose video seems lost totally in cyberspace) in 1977-ish was a real heartbreaker. Shot was near-perfect (think Randy Pederson’s shot in a mirror). IIRC Anthony won the tournament anyway, and was handed the actual 9-pin, to “let him do with it whatever he wished.”
BAH GAWD!
The lack of class is disgusting. I used to think tennis players were the worst
You throw a bowling ball with two hands, you deserve every bad break you get.
Randy with ‘Oh my God, that's a loser!’ followed by him losing on the next shot! 😂
PBA we need the greatest comebacks video.
For Chris Barnes, both have happened to me in that exact order. Worst feeling cuz both were amazing shots
I have had this happen to me. I bowl on my high school’s bowling team and we were in the state semifinals. I needed a double in the 10th to send us to the state championship. I got the first, but then left a solid 8 and it cost us a trip to the state championship
Let's not kid ourselves, who DIDN'T think Randy Peterson's stone 8 was going to be number 1 🤣🤷♂️
Yeah we knew it was coming. It’s still crazy watching Ernie’s reaction, that’s worse than troll behavior that’s mental disorder
The PTSD is real. Especially numbers 1, 2 and 4
I will never forget when I fit my ball in between the 3-10 without touching either
2 hand bowlers always deserve 7-10 splits imo
“He 8-10’d on Shark” kills me everytime
Yay! Friday Five... poor Randy... Thank You for making my Fridays... #PBABowling
IMO, Belmo's shots were late into the pocket. From my experience, late into the pocket leaves 10 pins. The fact the 7s were left too was just rubbing salt into the wound. Walter Rays shot was also a tad late and flat. That's perfect for leaving an 8 pin. Not enough drive for the ball to take it out. .
Funny to hear the announcers SCREAMING to desperately try to drum up excitement. The overhyping here would make Gus Johnson blush.
One of the worst breaks I've ever seen even though there's only a short clip of it online, was the 1974 Cleveland Open where Earl Anthony left a stone 9 on his 12th shot when going for a perfect game.
I don't know why you show the text of what's going to happen before it happens. Isn't that the point of WATCHING the video?
What about Del Ballard Jr.?
That wasn't a bad break. That was a bad shot.
His shot wasn’t bad break, it’s a mistake shot
What he did just can't be considered a bad break. He lost focus playing that insane line that got him to the mountain top.
Imagine that. Bowling pins that don't fall down. Shocking.
What is a "break" in bowling?
Pba bowling what is the name of the song in the background
LOL @ Patrick Allen saying Walter 8-10ed on Shark. They weren't playing on shark.
There was also Chris Barnes losing to Michael Haugen Jr. at the TOC. Mika's bad break to Patrick Allen at the US Open, and PA going off about it. I feel for Randy Pedersen about that 1995 event. I watched that one on tv and I couldn't believe how much of an asshole Ernie Schlegel was about that. Such poor sportsmanship, and during his 2 matches, you can hear him going you're mine. Another thing I couldn't stand either was Earl Anthony praising Ernie throughout the telecast.
You can make an entire full-length movie about Chris Barnes' bad breaks, but I think a lot is brought on himself. He still managed to win 20 titles. The thing with Mika was that he was saying before the match that he ate lefties for breakfast, which is why PA gave it to him. Ernie was a pot and action bowler, and a trash talker at that's part of the action game. Randy also blamed a fan, not his bad execution, for failing to make the exempt tour. Still Randy more than doubled Ernie's win total, and Ernie bowled in everything, so I'm sure Randy got the last laugh.
@@louieatienza8762 actually, Mika said that he was "lefties worst nightmare"
I always remember the "Oh my God, that's a loser!" more than the actual 8-10 Walter left.
I still have and throw that LevRG Response at about the same rev rate that WRW was throwing here. How in the hell that ball left that split on a short pattern like Cheetah from that angle flummoxes me to this day.
the Solid 8 pin that was left by both Randy Pedersen and Chris Barnes were brutal
OMG that was riveting - he missed a pin. I'm hooked now, I have to watch bowlling all day LOL. ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................
About that first one, Chris Barnes: Is it being a d___ to ask if it wasn't all that perfect a shot? It looks to me like he was extra-tense (which is understandable, and not fatal) and that he sort of 'dropped' the ball, let it go a smidgen early and didn't really get lift on it. I don't find it surprising that it didn't carry.
Stop Malott’s shot at the pocket and it’s pretty easy to see why there was a nine pin there. I’m surprised there wasn’t a seven pin as well.
Awesome vid
Wished i kept bowling. My best game was a 257 at 12 yrs old and 223 in league
sounds like someone is trying to connect with aol
you could do a whole segment on the numerous times Barnes lost(blew) a finals match
Where are the breaks? Breaks are when the pinsetter stops a pin from falling or a pin sliding sideways and not falling. These are just missed shots.
Now you see them now you don't now you see them wow
It still hurts watching randys stone 8..
No Del Ballard gutter ball?
Hey you’re right!! You win the Comments section! 🏆
Belmonte liking it doesn’t matter. Me I generally don’t like a 7-10 split.
How is the 2nd one even remotely a bad break? Even HE knew it was a bad shot when he released it.
Schlegl was erg onvolwassen op de TOC van 1995
Entschuldigung, ich wollte das auf Deutsch schreiben, ich habe einen Übersetzer benutzt
Too be fair Belmo has had some of the luckiest major matches I've ever seen. Not that he didn't bowl well but his opponents had the same luck he did here.
The 2 belmonte shots were almost identical.
I wonder if Belmo's intense hook doesn't make him more liable to the pocket 8-10(?).
No it doesn’t, the 8-10 comes from a flatter more forward roll like Williams was throwing that day…
Turn the music off in the background
PA!.....WRw deserved that plaque 8-10
anyone know the soundtrack
Duke had one early in last year's senior tour. He led the whole tournament, and in the final game, for the cup, it was in the bag, his opponent was already taking his shoes off, and he throws a pocket 7-10 in the tenth frame and loses!
I think you mean “unluckiest?” Not “worst?”