This would be a fascinating route to explore. You're right that it's been a trope in stories lately where the "classic" character returns to teach a new generation and is then killed off-a bad trope at that. If Shepard is brought back, they've earned the right to live out their days. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@Audentia89 Exactly! Shepard taking on an Anderson-like role would have so much symbolic weight-it's too good not to include in the next game. Thanks for joining the discussion and sharing your thoughts!
Yeah we need one more story where Shepard finally gets his happy ending he so rightly deserves. If they do that I hope they use the saves to determine whom he does end up with if anyone at all.
I agree. Some form of save reading has to happen in this case, especially with the release of the Legendary Edition. It's so convenient that it'd be silly if this wasn't pursued. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
This is an exciting idea. What kind of mission could call for Shepard to return? It would certainly have to be something big. I'm curious to see how things play out. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Looks like Edi got the upgrades and with EDI's capabilities she can pretty much upgrade herself or if the sheps got their personalities upgraded/downloaded with the help of SAM
If Shepard lives I think making her an admiral or the human counselor would be the best outcome. If anyone in the galaxy deserves to retire from military life it’s Shepard. How many times do you need to save the galaxy to get at least a promotion
Exactly! She deserves a break from the fighting. Although, entering the ring of galactic politics doesn't sound like much of a vacation to me... Thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
This makes a lot of sense! It would be a very intriguing setting for the game, with so many political situations to manage and chaos to sort out. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
It seems like they’re going for a detective story. Noir heroes can fight, but that’s not their main strength. They also are often depicted wearing long coats and carry a small side arm. The character is lithe, so they’re not a lumbering muscle man, so it’s either not shep at all, or that’s femshep.
I think you're right that the next game will be a detective story. A common thread connecting all the teasers we've seen so far is that the fans must piece together what's happening-we're becoming detectives, solving the mystery of Mass Effect 5. I quite enjoy it, and I think a noir/detective story suits the series very well. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I don't see it this way. Don't get me wrong, though-I would love to see Shepard in Mass Effect 5, but I don't think the series needs them as the player character for every game moving forward. My worry is that too much Shepard will cause fatigue and eventually tarnish the high esteem we hold the character. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@edselsledge2940 The situation is much more nuanced than you're making it out to be. Mass Effect Andromeda had numerous issues, and Ryder's role as the protagonist was not the game's biggest problem. It's too easy to attribute the game's negative reception to this choice. Assuming the next game's success hinges solely on Shepard's return is a misstep. The game's quality is a result of a myriad of factors, and it's our responsibility to consider them all, rather than issuing ultimatums or creating dogmatic analyses. Shepard is unique-no one can deny that. They served as the vehicle to show us a rich sci-fi setting in the trilogy. Another character-someone completely new-can do the same, so long as the setting is as fascinating to explore as it was in the trilogy. At the end of the day, the quality of the world and the writing of the character within it is what will make the next Mass Effect remarkable.
I feel like if Shepard is in this game, he’d be introduced similarly to Marcus Fenix in Gears 4 and might not be a main protagonist but as a side character or squadmate.
Fantastic comparison! This seems to be the most straightforward route to Shepard's return, but Bioware may surprise us all with an option we couldn't imagine. I'm excited to find out/ Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Would prefer Shepard to either not be present in the next game or appear as an older human who is a mentor/advisor or an Alliance Admiral/General or something. I wouldn't mind the new game being set hundreds of years in the future either, and meet a matron or matriarch Liara and hear her stories about Shepard. That distance in time would also let the civilizations in the galaxy plausibly reverse-engineer some reaper tech and rebuild the mass relay network and it could introduce new alien species that joined the galactic community after the reapers were defeated.
These are great ideas! This path would lead to some really intriguing narrative ideas to explore, in my opinion, and it would probably be best for the series' long-term health. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Sheperd gets downloaded into an Edi-like body? Or his body is replaced by a cybernetic body, leaner, meaner, faster with the SAM Upgrades and jump jets, that has been my theory after seeing this.
It's an interesting thought, and it definitely opens up some complicated philosophical questions to explore. We'll see... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
We don't want Shepard to be back as the PC. We just want a satisfying ending for him/her. I want to move on with a new character while not ignoring the past. *cough* Andromeda *cough* Personally I'd love for a sci-fi spy thriller Mass Effect game and honestly the new N7 design fits perfectly for that.
This would give a new interpretation to the dialogue in the Stargazer scene where the child refers to "The Shepard." Maybe it becomes a mantle of sorts...Interesting idea!
I'm not too sure. N7 is a designation reserved for members of the Alliance Military, i.e., humans. It isn't very likely for an asari to be an N7, but anything is possible for the next game. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay maybe ,but DR. Liara T'soni aka. Shadow broker helps understand crucible plans and build it , and earlier save the galaxy when stops Saren in Mass Effect 1 - she made more than enough to be an exception and be N7 , especially if developers made Liara ,,loved one" of Shepard as canon for next game , so they would have chance to use Shepard name as Access to N7 , like use Shepard as access to be exception and vote herself to be N7 , as Shepard was first human specter , she can be first asari to be N7 , like exception because SHE PROVED TWICE SHE ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO BE N7 , because she first stop Saren , then read crucible plans and help building it in mass effect 3 and help save galaxy two times in a row , or 3 times if we count rescuing Shepard body from collectors for Lazarus project.
It’s Kai Leng and we play as him In all seriousness though I think it’d be interesting if this was a story of Shepard but it was Shepard post alliance in a sort of retirement broken by whatever ends up happening. It’d explain why military grade gear isn’t available/being worn plus Shepard would have the contacts (Liara, Tali and EDI) to acquire new advanced equipment to handle whatever is going on. There could also be a restructuring of the actual military command like N7’s being integrated into Spectre duties/resources in the wake of Reaper losses and whatnot so they get the super slick fancy new equipment that allows for casual look while infiltrating and so on. Idk just spitballing there but you get the point there are routes they could go to explain the aesthetic change while still going down that path. Hell a two thousand years ago military’s wore togas, leather and maybe some bronze if you could manage it. Things change with tech advancement
(Re: Kai Leng) HA! Good points! You're right that exploring a post-Reaper War galaxy is an intriguing concept, and seeing how Shepard and others are handling the aftermath (more than what a brief cutscene can explain anyway) could be the base for a compelling story. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay Great video 😄 Side thought, it’d also make sense for most people’s playthroughs unless you go renegade fully cause there’s a lot of dialogues in romances and even in the very final cutscene with Anderson where Shepard can talk about wanting to settle down and retire more or less. I even remember a line between Shepard and Garrus during the final mission where you say something to the effect of “This is going to be our last ride one way or another. Either I die here or I live and retire somewhere nice. I think I’ve had my fair share of saving the universe.” or something to that effect
@@JourneyTal1 I'm glad you enjoyed it! You're absolutely right. That's a great catch! It's often overlooked how often Shepard talks about being tired and ready to settle down throughout Mass Effect 3. It would be strange if Shepard returns in the next game and is as pumped to save the galaxy again as in the trilogy-there rightfully should be some pushback. Thanks again for sharing your ideas!
Well, Shepard is already loaded with cybernetics-it's hard to imagine they'll be the same character with even more. Kinda gives me Adam Smasher vibes... And I hope they don't go the freezing route because it doesn't make sense for Shepard. If they did survive the Reaper War, why would they go on ice, waiting for the next mission? Shepard even says in Mass Effect 3 that they don't know how many more times they can save the galaxy. Shepard is exhausted and looking forward to retiring after the war, so for them to be frozen feels like a betrayal of the character established in Mass Effect 3. Only time will tell... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I think Shepard just needs one more story before actually being done. We just need more closure for him and whatever his love interest is (or hers if you chose female shep). Overall Shep just needs/deserves a better ending
I agree! We could use just a bit more time with the character to feel like things are finally wrapped up. Here's hoping! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Honestly I love the idea of being a new character Shepard's story is finished just give them a good ending and let them be an advisor or a character that pops up once or twice on Shepard focused missions
I think this idea makes the most sense for the series in the long term, and I get the feeling Bioware feels the same. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I REALLY hope that it isn't Shepard. The galaxy is SO much bigger than one N7 Human, no matter how remarkable they may be. Good settings can, and will, survive a change in protagonist.
Yes, exactly! I agree 100%. Mass Effect has one of the best sci-fi settings of all time, and there is so much to explore that doesn't require Shepard. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@edselsledge2940 The pivotal difference between God of War and Mass Effect, between Kratos and Shepard, is the profound influence of player choice. This element is not just a feature but a fundamental aspect that shapes the entire experience. When we play as Kratos, we don't make decisions about what he does or says. We can only follow the singular narrative path the developers laid out for the character. When we play as Shepard, we can make many different choices and paths to get the character from the beginning to the end of the journey. We can even make it so the character doesn't survive ME2. In other words, nearly every Mass Effect player has a different idea of who Shepard is based on their decisions. So the story and games aren't really about Shepard at that point-they are more about how we decide to interact with the world and characters. I'm not saying Shepard should never be the player character in future games. On the contrary, I'd love to play as the character, at least one more time. I am saying that just like God of War will inevitably succeed with Atreus as the player character, Mass Effect can thrive when new protagonists are introduced.
@@edselsledge2940 I really think Shepherd deserves retirement, and it doesn't seem like you're invested in all the other aspects of the game. Like all the world building and politics between species
Shepard's story is done and Mass Effect fans need to make their peace with that and stop living in the past. The series is more than Shepard or any one character. It's a story about humanity's role in the milky way.
You make excellent points, and I agree that moving past Shepard is how the franchise will grow into what it has the potential to be. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@charlie-gt8ri Initially, I think having Shepard return could be smart, especially to tie up loose ends. Personally, I'd love to see the character at least once more. Beyond that, the Mass Effect franchise can thrive with Milky Way stories that don't involve Shepard, and this, to me, is the best way to ensure the series can prosper in the long run. Thanks for watching and joining the discussion!
@@RobsRelay No Shepard and a whole new plot and characters to write for ME:A, yet i stopped playing it halfway. How long ago was the last good new Bioware title? People should stop expecting good titles from companies that did something good more then a decade ago. Allot of people that made the tribology have left in 10 years. These days allot of writers don't explore why and how the source material brought the success of the initial IP anymore. Look at Star Wars, I expect nothing so i won't get disappointed.
@@Abb0able I agree that keeping low expectations is a good move. Bioware has lost a lot of goodwill over the past few years, and it will undoubtedly be a struggle to regain that. The good news is that the current Mass Effect team is comprised of many veterans who worked on the trilogy. The devs are earnestly attempting to ease the concerns about the next game, and it appears that all involved with the project have a genuine and deep love for Mass Effect. I have good feelings about the next game, but my optimism is mixed with caution, like you.
@@RobsRelayI agree with him, at least for the next game. Having shepard as this game's protagonist as a great way to get true closure to Shepard and his squad's story and to pass the torch to the next protagonist
If they bring back Shepard they better bring back Joker, Garrus, Ashley and Kaidan. They are my favorite. But if this is not Shepard I kind of want it to be a descendent of his
Ok here’s my theory, it’s clearly woman and clearly in an Asari helmet. Anyone who’s played knows it’s an achievement in game for all 3 episodes. And at the end of 3 she does her little mating game. She is a Shepard and a T’soni. Whom else would be able to continue to take up the mantle there are most likely 3 1. From the consort 2. Benezia’s follower when she did the whole cypher thing, and Liara’s with the first 2 being a tribute to Shepard after learning of his death the consort would have wanted another in the galaxy who held shepards ethics. And the other asari would do it as a life for life situation. Her life was spared and he died so she incorporated his imprint on a child to balance the life debt.
How do you know if you'll like a Mass Effect game without Shepard if you have yet to play one?🤔 Andromeda has its issues, but it's settled into a good experience overall. I think you should check it out if you have the time. Plus, the next game is heavily hinting at exploring the plotlines introduced in Andromeda, so might as well give it a go to have the complete understanding of where the story could go. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@Torsteinhauger Exactly! Funny enough, if there is anything that Mass Effect's themes aspire to teach us, it's to have an open mind. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
If it follow Mass Effect 3 events and if we did the choice to made peace between Geths and Quarians, I hope that the new Mass Effect will give us the posssibility to unlock a Geth as a squadmate again. Legion was cool as a squadmate in ME2 (that we can unlock him early in game with modding tool) and I miss him since he got killed in ME3 so I hope they will give us another Geth again.
I hope so, too. We could use more time with a geth companion, especially one with the new autonomy and individualism they acquired after peace was achieved. Maybe the geth we see in the latest poster (the one wearing knight's armor of some kind) will be a new squadmate. That'd be pretty cool to see. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@CraniamonRoyalKnight It's hidden in the club scene, so you have to zoom in big time. blog.bioware.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/N7D_2023_ART-scaled.jpg You might also want to check out this video from Kala Elizabeth discussing the geth and the angara in the poster. ruclips.net/video/zFu-jze_hi4/видео.html
At minimum we need one more game with Sheperd. To give him or her a proper ending, PERIOD!!! We all know the ME3 ending was B.S. At worst case Sheperd was indoctrinated in the end. Best case Sheperd got lit up and imagined the whole Citadel scene. And he or she barely survived. All the endings were opened ended. Because Bioware must have hired Stephen King to write the original endings inlcuding the add on endings. You know because he can tell a great story but alot of his book's endings suck!!! Just like the ME3 ending
I agree that just a bit more explanation and time with the character are needed to satisfactorily tie up ME3's ending. Here's hoping the next game can provide a more definitive sense of closure. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Great observation! You're probably right. Maybe closer to launch, Bioware will reveal the default facial appearances for the female and male player characters.
There are only a few ways I can think of that would make this new protagonist be shepherd. First and least likely is that the synthesis ending becomes canon and somehow being mixed with synthetic life extends the natural life span of all organic species. But that's very unlikely because even when mixed with machinery I doubt human organic components could last more than 150-200 years at max unless there has been some kind of massive advancement in medical science that slows down the aging process, so even in that case a synthetic shepherd would be too old to be able to continue to do field work. Second would be if this is a descendent of shepherd, like a grandchild. Also kind of unlikely because even though shepherd had romantic interests in the game making one of them a canon partner would kind of destroy player choice in the previous 3 games and the only way it would be a human descendent would be if shepherd got with one of the human romantic interests like ashley or miranda and they survived and happened to find out they were pregnant after the events of the 3rd game. Third would be if it's a shepherd clone. When cerberus got ahold of shepherd the first time and tried to resurrect them it's also possible they may have experimented with cloning them in case the project didn't work as planned, which I wouldn't put past them, and it's possible this clone was just in stasis for a long time and finally released at some point prior to the new story time period starting. But I doubt they would have all of shepherds memories and attachments unless they had a memory implanting process like in that movie the 6th day. Other than that I can't really think of many other ways that they could bring the original shepherd into the new game with the timeline being so far ahead of the 3rd game.
These points make a lot of sense. The fact that we have to go to great lengths to explain why or how this character could be Shepard is the best evidence for why it isn't. In other words, it's much easier to explain that this N7 is an entirely new character. Despite the high likelihood that this is a new character, it doesn't necessarily mean that Shepard can't show up in the next game-it's possible to have a new character and Shepard. How this could play out is anyone's guess, but it's possible. Also, it's important to note that there have yet to be any confirmations of a timeline for the next Mass Effect. Sure, there have been many rumors and hearsay, but no official confirmations. So, we can't assume with any degree of certainty when the game will take place and all the implications of such a detail. Thanks for sharing your well-constructed thoughts about the next game! I appreciate reading other perspectives and theories, and it makes me happy to know others enjoy speculating on these mysteries as much as I do.
I feel Shepard surviving might be low. Thing is they should defo ling ME5 to ME1,2 and 3. That way what ever choices we made reflect in ME5. Maybe they can have us properly select what all previous decisions we made in the previous games similar to how we had that comic version at the start of the previous game. But with that said, some might have gone with the ending of ME3 that resulted in killing of Shepard. So in ME5, for those who went with the ending (like me) to have Shepard survive (Him breathing in the ruble), can have him in game as a side character/mentor/our main character's commander. But for those got the ending where Shepard dies, will have some other character as their Commander. And so we get to play as a completely different character but with strong links to ME1,2 and 3. Please not like ME4
Interesting ideas! Respecting the choices we made throughout the trilogy is definitely an important factor in the next game. It's probably also Bioware's biggest hurdle. I'm excited to see where the devs take us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
The franchise doesn’t really need Shepard to keep it going, I’m always down for the torch to be passed onto another new protagonist. Regardless if whether one agrees or disagrees, a protagonist’s story has to come to an end in some capacity. Personally I don’t think this is Shepard, because they had their whole arc centered around the reapers. Considering what we’ve seen so far, and know of, the reapers are no longer a threat. So what other storyline could you involve Shepard in that doesn’t require another protagonist?
Ngl but i heard similar beliefs in andromedas earliest days when the teaser was released and it was confirmed later it wasnt sheperd at all, as much as id love for it to be our sheperd, i think sheperds character development as well as all our companions had their arcs completed at ME3s ending, sheperds war finished with the reapers end imo, maybe its time for another to rise in his footsteps like any hero always does when needed
Astute observation! I agree-Shepard's time in the spotlight may be at its end, and the time for a new hero is on the horizon. We'll see where Bioware takes us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I honestly think they could do anything. Reverse engineered reaper tech cultivated from millions of years of harvesting could lead to technologically reanimated AI shepard, alternate universes, shepard halleucinated 3s endings, shepards asari offspring, a gethed up shepars doppleganger, anything really
You're right! There are so many different possibilities for moving the series forward. Some paths I'd rather not see come to fruition, but it's interesting to consider those possibilities. We find ourselves in an exciting time where we can freely speculate about the next game, and I've been enjoying all the scenarios we fans have conjured up to explain the mysteries Bioware keeps leaving for us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I don't think it's Shepard (at least not our Shepard, time travel / multiverse bullshit may potentially make /a/ Shepard be in there). If it's some other Shepard (multiverse shit), then it makes sense they'd hide their identity as soon as they learn that Shepard is dead (in one of the several ways to die) I think this N7 is not a soldier, but an operative - like what the Spectres were meant to be, an agent from the shadows, not heavily armed or armored unless the situation calls for it - just an outfit that's practical and allows for concealed carry and maybe a shield generator. "Special tactics and recon" - infiltration, sabotage, intelligence gathering, manipulating events from the shadows. I also figure their helmet is convertible like the nano-tech Ironman suit's - it can entirely deconstruct into a collar or something, and reconstruct into a helmet when needed. What makes me think that is the tight fit of the helmet and the rest of the outfit's looks - it's not armor, so a combat helmet is not necessary either. Instead it's there to mask the wearer's identity. The ability to take it on and off with extreme ease makes it perfect for that, since they can confirm their identity and hide it again in a jiffy.
You make some great points here, and I agree. That's an interesting idea with nanotechnology! The Remnant uses similar nanotechnology, so I wonder if there could be a connection. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts!
What if they make another really well loved and awesome protagonist to launch a new trilogy with? I love Shepard, but I'm okay closing the book where it is for the commander.
I doubt it’s Shepard. But I also doubt it’s some new N7 young buck. It’s probably some peer to Shepard, and possibly someone closely connected to Shepard, like a past squad are or part of the same N7 class. Shepard went the path of a soldier/leader, but this one could have become more of an espionage agent/1 man toppler of empires
Great observation-I think you're probably right. Whether this is a new character or not, the fact that they are an N7 is a huge deal. It's confirmation that they are the best of the best, and their air of confidence supports this. You're also right about the espionage element-it all feels very secretive. I've got a good feeling about the next game's vibes, and I'm excited to see where Bioware takes us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay Sure It's because mass effect (unlike dragon age) from 2007 to 2012 had the same continuous storyline with mostly the same characters but most of all the same protagonist for 3 games straight And ends with What most fans consider to be One of the worst endings in Syfy Made worse by the fact that Casey Hudson specifically said the series would not have an AB or C ending. They then chose to run away from the ending with Andromeda which was mid at best.The original trilogy is a decade-old right now and will more than likely be 20 years old by the time the next game comes out And I simply want 2 things First is proper closure for shepherd And second Is the one more story About the shepherd that the stargazer talked about And because it's taken 20 years I will settle for nothing less
@@lovestospuge666 I see. That's a reasonable stance to take. When Mass Effect 1 first came out, Bioware made it very clear that it was the first in a trilogy, so they kept their word. It's just unfortunate that they didn't stick the landing. Personally, I agree that one more story with Shepard to give a more satisfying conclusion would help restore the fanbase's good graces, and I'd love to be Shepard at least one last time on a new adventure. Let's say we get the game you're asking for-we get one more story with Shepard, which offers proper closure and respects the trilogy. What do you imagine happens next for Mass Effect?
@@lovestospuge666 That's fair. I, on the other hand, would love to see the series continue with a new character (or multiple new player characters) focusing on smaller-scale stories like fighting pirates, overambitious mercenary groups, or new races with hostile intentions (like the Yahg). I'd also be interested in playing stories from different genres set within the Mass Effect universe. Could you imagine a Resident Evil/Dead Space-like survival horror game in Mass Effect's setting? That would be awesome. Mass Effect is brimming with untapped story potential beyond Shepard and the Reaper War, and after one more great story to neatly close up that arc, the series' future will be pretty exciting.
May I offer a small rebuttal I think is an interesting perspective. If I’m remembering right Humans we’re being submitted for specter training soon after Shepherd had achieved the rank once he set a president. The specter’s are the black hand of the Council. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that the cream of the crop are from spec ops and renowned military units like the N7. That said after the reaper war Shepherd would be considered dead. Ceremony and funerals would be held all across the Galaxy for those that couldn’t make it. Anderson, Shepherd, Mordin and the like. So aside from reclaiming a life in the human military where else would someone like Shepherd go after they are discovered alive by a reclamation team? Well if I were a politician I’d dip his file in black ink and then pretend like he’s an entirely new person. No need for ceremony or induction since he already was a specter. Military service to Military Intelligence. Who better than the man who led multiple small squad insertions against the will of gods.
If I understand you correctly, you're theorizing that if Shepard survived ME3, the governments and military would keep their existence a secret so they could assist in covert military operations. Is this what you're saying?
I, too, would like to see Shepard one more time, if only for a few scenes that more satisfyingly tie up their story. I would also be thrilled to play as a new character, especially if the game is great. The developers at Bioware have a lot of work ahead of them, and I'm excited to see where they take us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Honestly I think I would be happy to play a new character but still have Shepard be a part of the story, would be nice to actually choose more about your character including species, similar to what Jedi Academy did.
I concur. Although, choosing your player character's species could make the story very complicated to design. We'll see what Bioware gives us... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@AvoozlPlays Good point. The biggest difference between the two is the story implications. In Jedi Academy, it didn't really matter what race you chose to play as-the story played out exactly the same. On the other hand, every Mass Effect game explores themes of social, cultural, and conflicts between the Milky Way races. Krogans are treated differently than asari. Asari are treated differently than humans, batarians, turians, etc. To make the experience of playing as one of these races engaging and immersive, unique interactions would have to be crafted for every race, and the main story would have to be streamlined so that it makes sense for every race to participate. Consider how Mass Effect 1 allowed us to pick Shepard's background, and NPCs would comment on the one defining event attached to that background. This would need to be done if we play as other races, but it would require at least ten times more writing and scripting work than ME1. I'm not saying it isn't possible-it absolutely is! It would just take a really, really long time to do, and even longer if the devs wanted to do it very well. I don't know about you, but I'd like to play the next Mass Effect within the next four to five years. Not ten.
@@AvoozlPlays You're right. My guess is that the Council races would be the most requested from players. Still, it would be a staggering amount of work even if the only options are human, turian, salarian, and asari. I'm not opposed to the idea of playing as other races-I think it could open the way for some interesting stories and themes to be explored. I'd be concerned that the overall quality of the game could suffer with the amount of attention it would take to pull it off in a compelling fashion. Only time will tell...
So, what i am thinking in ME5 will happen. We all know the citadel is one bigass relay, that has huge ranges (enough to bring reapers from darkspace), i`m thinking they link the two galaxies (andromeda and milky way) through it, there also are a bunch more huge range relays as well (ALPHA relay i think it was called.
Interesting idea! You're right that there are still many unsolved mysteries regarding particular relays, which can be used as a clever way to create new story material for the next game. Thanks for watching and sharing your ideas!
There is no official love interest or canon romance. Mass Effect is an RPG that prioritizes player choice. If the next game releases and retroactively decides that some players made the wrong choice (romancing Garrus, Tali, Miranda, etc.), fans would be heartbroken, to say the least. While we don't know much about the next game, I'm confident that Bioware will prioritize honoring all the love interests players chose in the trilogy. That said, let's entertain the idea that this N7 is the daughter of Shepard and Liara. Any child this couple has would be an asari, which could explain the female presenting figure in the trailer. However, N7 is an Alliance military rank reserved for humans only. Provided Bioware doesn't retcon this detail, it makes the most sense that this character is human. Could they still be biologically related to Shepard? Maybe-but I find this unlikely. It's easier to accept that this is the new player character, who could be whichever gender the player chooses. This trailer happens to show the female presenting version of the character. Of course, it's much too early to say, and we know so little about the next game to make any hard conclusions. We're meant to speculate on this person's identity using our existing knowledge of the franchise. Only time will tell who they really are... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Hmm pretty sure the game will be titled Mass Effect 4, Andromeda was pretty much like a spin-off after all so yeah I think it might be a return of Shepard or maybe a protege?
Interesting! A protege situation could be fascinating to explore. I'm not sure about the title. All the teases for the next Mass Effect indicate that the Andromeda storyline will continue in some fashion, which confirms that Bioware doesn't consider Andromeda a spin-off. In fact, it was never intended to be. I think it's safe to assume that the next game will be a sequel to both the trilogy and Andromeda, so it may make more sense to choose a title along the lines of "Mass Effect" plus some word that describes the story it will tell. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
There is no ending where Shepard is fit to fight anyway. In Control, Refusal, and Synthesis, Shepard straight up dies even in the best-case scenario. For Destroy, they survive just barely, likely with all of their cybernetics ruined, and are dying in the wreckage of the Crucible and Citadel. If they do survive past this scene (Which, imo, they should, otherwise the scene would be worthless) it makes no sense for them to continue serving. Given that Destroy is the most likely "canon" ending for this upcoming game, I think it makes far more sense for Shepard to be in a political position or entirely retired in the next game. As for the N7, they are likely either the new PC or a squadmate. Assuming that they learned from Alec, it can't be anything else. Personally I want them to be a squadmate. Why? I want flexibility with the new PC. Dragon Age Style. Lemme be a different species in a meaningful way.
Thank you for sharing this video! I believe that the N7 character we saw in the trailer will be a new protagonist, and I sincerely hope it includes proper character customization options. My biggest concern is that the controllable character might be a female-only protagonist. While I have nothing against female leads, I've noticed this trend becoming more common in recent games. Personally, I prefer to play as a character that reflects myself, including my gender. If the next Mass Effect adopts a style similar to Star Wars: Outlaws, I fear it might not resonate well with fans.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The next game may be shrouded in mystery, but there is nothing to worry about regarding the player character and customization features. The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation. Every Bioware game for the past 15+ years has offered players the choice to customize their character how they wish, and this remains consistent in the case of the upcoming Dragon Age: The Veilguard. There is zero evidence to suggest that Bioware is even considering abandoning this approach with the next Mass Effect, so there is nothing to fear. That said, I don't see the issue with Femshep or a female-presenting N7 being the poster figure for the game. It's not like doing so means that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your concerns. I appreciate these conversations because they prove that fans still love the series and want the next game to succeed.
I agree, and I think this approach will probably have the best overall result and fan response. We'll see... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
A Mad Max movie without Mad Max. We saw how successful that was. Lesson learned. Imagine a Batman video game without the iconic Batman. I was ripped off with money grab, Andromeda. I won't hold my breath for this one and I'll wait to see the reviews -after- the game releases. Hopefully they have enough OG devs and coders left to crank out a good Mass Effect game again.
I'm hoping you can clarify what point you're trying to make because I'm a bit confused. Furiosa currently has a 90% critic score and an 89% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, and its box office earnings are higher than its budget (it made a profit), so it was actually a huge success. Are you trying to say that a Mass Effect game without Shepard could be very successful? That's what your example indicates... And what about the Halo TV show that features Master Chief? That wasn't a recipe for success... You're wise to wait to purchase the game until you've seen reviews or gameplay that assures its quality. This is an excellent practice for all game purchases. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
the person in mass effect 5's teaser trailer looks a lot slimmer and sleeker almost a little bit like a female body, there can be structures for other beings such as males that can also be quite slim as well but it Extinction looks feminine to me. (sorry for my bad spelling mistakes)
This is true! It's worth noting that there are both female and male versions of Shepard, so if this character is indeed Shepard, we could simply be seeing the Femshep version of the trailer. On the other hand, if this is a brand new character that ends up being the protagonist, we can reasonably deduce that this is the female-presenting version of this N7 in this teaser. There will more than likely be a male version for players to choose from since Bioware games almost always allow the player to customize their character.
@@RobsRelay i do agree with what you are saying Bioware is known for customisable character in there games mostly but and I can be wrong I think this maybe how ever this could be maybe related to commander Shepard aka like a son or daughter depending on which relationship you ended up having with one of your female or male crewmates or hell it could be Shepard's secret sister that we all did not know about, .... know that i think about it it would be cool if that was true but that's my wishful thinking.
man, I really wish this is Shepard, He gotta come back and get his happy ending with Kaiden. I really hope it is, even though I think it definitely isn't ;-;
It would be great to see Shepard return, even briefly, to see a well-earned happy conclusion for the character. It would put a lot of long-held fan anguish to rest. You're probably right that this N7 is an entirely new character, though. Only time will tell... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I agree! With a setting as unique and interesting as Mass Effect's, many stories with many different protagonists can be explored. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I would be cool with Shepard coming back as the character you play but they need to expand it in the sense that you make your own character and choice in race with that alien race having its own backstory depending on what you choose. Like the original Dragon Age or like how Mass Effect 1 allowed you to choose your background story with the choice of picking a different alien Race too.
Playing as other races could be a fascinating route to go down! Although, I'm afraid developing a game with those features could take quite a long time, especially if we want it to have the kind of character depth it deserves. Could you imagine waiting another ten years for the next Mass Effect? That thought bums me out, personally... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
This is true-on several occasions, Bioware devs have stated that Shepard's story is done. Even franchise director Michael Gamble is on the record as having said something to this effect. However, the hints and teases that the next game will have at least a little something to do with Shepard-the N7 2023 Bioware Blog post, for example. Your skepticism is valid, though. I'm not sure we'll get another game with Shepard as a protagonist, either. In any case, it's much too early to say one way or the other with any degree of certainty. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Me too. This N7 has to be some kind of covert operative, carrying out more secretive assignments than combat-heavy military operations. The tone of all the teasers thus far has evoked a sense of mystery, too, so I'm leaning more toward the detective side of your observation. A detective/mystery thriller is an excellent idea to explore in the world of Mass Effect, and I'm excited to see where Bioware takes us. Thanks for watching and sharing your observations!
ME 4* looks interesting, and as others said ME only works with Shepard. *I say ME4 because this is a direct continuation of the first three Shepard based games. Andromeda is it's own thing and not the same as Shepard's ME games.
I beg to differ! Plenty of other Mass Effect stories work very well without Shepard as the protagonist. The setting and themes are the series' defining features-this keeps fans returning to the games, not one character in particular. Moreover, we don't know that the next game will continue the story told in the trilogy. N7 Day 2023 had more than a few details pointing to the Mass Effect Andromeda, so it's just as valid to believe the game will continue that story somehow. Ultimately, it's far too early to say what the game will be with any degree of certainty, so it's best to avoid setting any rigid expectations. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I love Shepard as much as next Mass Effect fan, but OG trilogy was Shepard's story, there is no need to mess with it and potentially antagonize a lot of people. I hope than not only we get new MC, but can chose from different races (at least humanoid one's). It was one of my biggest letdowns in Andromeda, we literally go to another galaxy in ships full of people of different races, yet are forced to play good old boring human.
We'll never be able to choose different species in a single player mass effect. A multiplayer one of course but it's just too many variables to account for when you're trying to tell a specific story
@@thecreed1212 Very wise take! There is already so much player choice and consequence baked into Mass Effect-adding even one more playable race could quadruple the number of variables the developers and writers must deal with. At the core of Mass Effect's themes is humanity's place in the galaxy-how humans can keep up with the other races. The Illusive Man and Cerberus' take on this issue is to dominate the other races. Shepard's take on the issue is to cooperate and become an asset that harmonizes with them. Alec Ryder's solution is to implement AI to enhance human abilities. Playing as a human is a crucial part of exploring this theme, and I'm hesitant to say that Bioware is willing to let go of that. Thank you both for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I hope this game is gonna be on PS4. It wouldn’t make sense if it’s gonna be on PS five I mean I have the whole collection about this. It would be complete.😢
I'm sorry to say, but I don't have high hopes that the next Mass Effect will make it to PS4. The game is still several years away, and we'll probably be in the PS6 generation by then, so it would have a very tough time running on old hardware. Don't worry - your collection can still be complete even if you have the game on different platforms!
I think it’s best if BioWare come up with a new protagonist and jump 200 years forward after the Reaper War and combine the classic trilogy with Andromeda. Liara, Wrex and Grunt are still around to bring nostalgia and reference the past, helping the new character with their establishment. New characters bring new life into the Mass Effect and can be used for the future games. Over focusing on Shepard means living in the past. The franchise should move forward.
This is a very wise take, and I concur. Once we can finally let Shepard rest, there is so much more to be explored in Mass Effect, and I'm excited to get to that point. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Nah dude I want him to be alive I just wanna keep my promise to Miranda and come see her again my guy had so much war in life let the man have a happy ending!!!
I sympathize! I'd love to see my Shepard back with their love interest, at least once. And a happy ending wouldn't hurt either. We'll see! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
No. The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation across every Bioware title. Featuring Femshep or a female presenting N7 as the poster figure for the trailers does not mean that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters.
If Bioware wants the Mass Effect series to truly move on and get the backing of the fans, they NEED to make this next game a closure of Shepard's story. Shepard needs to be the playable protagonist with VERY satisfying ending, A very HAPPY ENDING!
There's a lot of truth to what you say here. So many of us fans have lingering questions and are dissatisfied with Shepard's ending from Mass Effect 3. The N7 Day 2023 blog post has cheeky references to these exact things. Mike Gamble writes, "We’ve asked ourselves many of the same questions you’ve asked us over the years! What happened to everyone you know and love in the games? Who really died? Who had kids with whom? What does a baby volus sound like? What about all the galaxies? The endings! What the heck is going on with our asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker? What about S- nevermind…you get the idea. And of course, to those questions, there are answers, but you’ll have to wait to hear them." The very fact that the devs are hinting at these details is a good enough reason to assume that Shepard's ending will be addressed in the next game. I'm excited to see where Bioware takes things! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Something id like is where you can choose the Heritage of your character like for example because of how many different romance options like your predominant ancestors is shepard but you can choose your other ancestor
This is a really neat idea! Implementing a feature like this would probably be very difficult due to the sheer number of narrative possibilities it creates, but it's a clever way to solve the issue of a "canon romance" option. I'm glad you shared this idea because I haven't seen it before, and I love hearing new ideas for the next game. Thanks so much for watching and adding to the conversation!
@RobsRelay see thats one of the reasons it works because of the possibilities we have seen Backstories in other bio were titles like dragon age for example so yes it would be hard to implement but simple at the same time in general it would fun to see yes we still play a shepard the dependent of the original a possibility of game play is some like the krogan actually rembering shepard for good or bad actually knowing the original shepard an treating you accordingly do to the actions that where picked or selected depending on if there is a choice in that regard
@@Shepard_N7 Haha! 🤣 Isn't that sad, though? Chief definitely earned a retirement, but he was brought back, and the quality of the narrative for those games dipped (Halo 4 and on). I'm concerned the same could happen with Shepard. But who knows? Maybe Shepard won't get their retirement and will be the player character in the next game, and it'll get a 100 Metacritic score! We'll see...
True, poor Chief does deserve a retirement. The halo series did get a little rough after 4. I think Infinite was pretty good imo. I'd personally like to see Shepard's arc wrapped up a little bit better. There's so many open-ended elements at the end of ME3. Like the whole indoctrination theory. I think we should get one more ride with Shep! @RobsRelay
@@Shepard_N7 I agree entirely! I would love at least a bit more time with my Shepard and the crew to feel a definitive sense of closure. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I think it could be a offspring of shepherd and who ever the play hard a relationship with in mass effect 1 to 3 if the continued the relationship with Lara
This would be difficult to explain in cases like the Femshep romance with Garrus or the male Shepard romance with Tali, but anything's possible. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Mass Effect should continue on with number 4, if its a continuation of the "Red" (True) ending of ME3. I'm also open to an another "side story" like Andromeda.
The title of the next game is a fascinating topic. I get the feeling that it will likely be something similar to Andromeda-"Mass Effect" plus some other word that describes the story it will tell. Being a numbered entry is challenging because it creates such a heavy expectation for the game to live up to the trilogy, which I sincerely hope it does. To be clear, Andromeda wasn't intended to be a side story. It is a full-fledged Mass Effect game that sought to move the franchise forward while maintaining the integrity of the players' choices from the trilogy. Unfortunately, things didn't pan out as the developers anticipated... I also want to point out that ME3 has no "True" ending. Personally, I enjoy Perfect Destroy the most, but I would never deny someone who believes Control is the best ending for their Shepard. Of course, the themes and implications of each ending are fun to respectfully discuss, and that's the best part of having multiple endings. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay Andromeda was quite a....Show. It was hampered with being forced to play on a completely new engine, WHICH did lead to future progress for EA...But the Studio paid dearly for it. "True" ending Only the "Destroy" ending has Shepard breathing under rubble, every other ending is an utopian "UNITY" ending that would have the reapers laughing to the bank. They're too perfect, as if...SHEPARD WAS INDOCTRINATED!!!... which is why i like the Red coloured ending more because it is the most interesting with some ongoing conflict.
wouldnt it be total lame, if we would never get the Chance to play as someone from the other Races? We have a universe full of cool species here, and some people just want to play a Human again? ME is can be more then that.
You're right that it's somewhat of a missed opportunity, but that's only so far-it's entirely possible that we can get a game like this in the future, so don't lose hope! The only trouble comes from the idea of being able to select between multiple races in one game. The complexity this would add to the development process shouldn't be overlooked. However, I think any hurdles could be avoided if we had a game where we could only play as a turian (or whatever race that would best suit the story the developers want to explore). That said, I understand the arguments for only playing as a human. One of the central themes of the series is humanity's relationship to the rest of the Milky Way, which is addressed in the intro text for nearly every game. Plus, humans are the characters we relate to most, for obvious reasons, so it brings us that much closer to the player character. We'd be giving this up if we played as salarians, asari, etc. At the end of the day, I'm down for anything as long as it's a great story and it's fun to play. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@Quadnt True! Still, BG3 had a very unusual development process and was in early access for about three years. These factors paved the way for the game to be as massive and thorough as it is now. It's unlikely the next Mass Effect will have that same treatment. Plus, I don't imagine many fans would be okay with having an early-access version of the game for a few years before the full release. The next game really needs to be practically flawless to win back the fan faith lost during the release of Andromeda, and sticking to a more traditional development timeline seems like the smartest way to achieve that.
This is an intriguing idea! It would certainly open the way to exploring themes of identity, asking questions that get to the core of who we really are and what makes us a person. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
curious on if anyone else has picked up on the fact none of mass effect 3's endings are now cannon, due to the fact ending 1 has you control the reapers, ending 2 has you combining organic and synthetic life together and ending 3 has you wipe all synthetic and ai based forms, there fore having geth in mass effect 5 wouldn't make sense as if you chose ending 3 you wiped them out along side the reapers, and you can't have ending 1 or ending 2 because the next mass effect game shows dead reapers. there-fore as much as it will break peoples hearts, Commander John shepard will not make a return as mass effect 5 would not be following any of the set timelines
We don't know anything for sure, so I'd hold off on saying anything is a fact just yet. Even after a few years of teasers, we don't know anything concrete about the next game's setting or placement on the timeline. Perhaps you're right that this game will be on a new timeline and act as a reboot, but it's all speculation at this point. Only time will tell, but for now, we cannot say with any degree of certainty if any ME3 ending is canon, not canon, or otherwise. I'm very excited to see where Bioware takes us, though... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
i wish they would let my bother rest. but these ppl just keep dragging his name through everything trying to make him the only sole character in which we can play. Andromeda was good for trying to branch the story further by showing us that all the species in the milky way had other plans to keep their ppl alive (sending colony ships to a different galaxy escaping the Reaper threat that they didn't know if they could win) & Ryder & other pathfinders mission is to make sure that their efforts were not in vain. then all of a sudden these so called fans just trashed the game.. why? because it wasn't shepherd & wasn't the aftermath story & or anything they thought it was so they throw a childish tantrum review bombing without giving the story a fair chance to even tell the story they tried to show acting like graphics are a necessity to tell a story. & now the new mass effect is going to have the same problem if they want to tell a new characters story. tantrums, review bombing & nothing but hate if shepherd isn't in it. at this point i am just disappointed to even consider myself a huge fan die hard even. this game was the reason i fell in love with story driven games with great characters be they random npc or companions in 1 amazing universe. it's to a point i don't even call myself a fan because of those types of ppl. you are not a fan if you don't give it a fair & unbiased chance to be what it can. A story of a character can only go so fair so stop dragging Shepherd around like a dam dog & let him rest something he needs & deserves. if anything i would have loved to yes meet them in the new game & if not maybe his children & spouse (whoever you chose). maybe even be one of his child's squad mate & or relative... something like that. but let shepherd's story be complete like dam he had 3 full amazing games which told his story.
I completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree entirely. It truly is disheartening to see so many supposed Mass Effect fans eagerly trash a game, let alone a yet-to-be-released game about which we know very little. However, I don't believe these individuals are even fans since they cannot seem to grasp what the series is actually about. I made my channel for fans like you-people who want to openly and thoughtfully discuss Mass Effect in a positive way. Your perspectives and ideas are valuable, and I encourage viewers to be open-minded about the future of the series and all the exciting possibilities that can be explored in the rich setting that Bioware has created. So, even though reading so much hate and silly tantrums about Mass Effect is disappointing, don't lose hope. The folks who love these games and stories are here-I'm one of 'em! The noise all the fake fans kick up always inevitably dies down, and what's left are those who appreciate what Mass Effect really stands for. Stick around, and I guarantee you'll find a home here amongst the fans who want to see the series thrive. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and frustrations with the fanbase. I hope you come back for more and engage in thoughtful conversations about this series we hold so dear.
I understand where you're coming from, and being cautious is wise. For better or worse, EA will always be involved in Mass Effect, so as fans, we have to come to terms with this in whatever way we think best. I stand with cautious optimism, and I'm interested to see what happens. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Companies need to quit starting over in tge first place. So many people invested on the trilogy they would buy #4 even if its bad. Like Saints Row even if the gameplay was bad if it continued with the same characters people would have forgave the bad things
You're oversimplifying the situation a bit. The game must still be good; otherwise, most players won't be interested in playing. The fans you're speaking of, those who'll forgive the rough parts of a game, are already sold-fans like this are already more than likely going to pick up the next game no matter what. This is, unfortunately, a small number compared to the casual fans or people completely new to the series. Making a genuinely incredible game (new characters or old) is a much better move than making a mediocre one.
The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation. That said, I don't see the issue with a Femshep or female-presenting N7 being the poster figure for the game. It's not like doing so means that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters.
Maybe! However, the N7 outfit leads me to believe that this character is a human since only humans in the Alliance military can earn N7 status. Things may have changed after the events of Mass Effect 3, though. Only time will tell... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Maybe! However, the N7 outfit leads me to believe that this character is a human since only humans in the Alliance military can earn N7 status. Things may have changed after the events of Mass Effect 3, though. Only time will tell... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Why is everyone calling it mass effect 5? If its a direct sequel of the original trilogy it will be ME4. If its a continuation of andromeda it would be Andromeda 2. If its neither, it will be its own thing.
It's not really as big of a deal as you may think. The next game will be the fifth Mass Effect game in the series, so it makes sense to simply refer to it as ME5 for now. It is not a hard confirmation that it will be the official title. We don't have very many concrete details about the next game's plot, so we can't say with any degree of certainty if it will continue the trilogy or Andromeda. However, many clues point to it continuing both games' stories. If I had to guess, you're right that it will likely be its own title, "Mass Effect: (fill in the blank)." If it were titled ME4 or Andromeda 2, there would be so much baggage attached, so I think that would be avoided altogether.
I doubt that we will be playing shealerd again but I do think they will be part of the story weather main or dlc If we are playing someone new I would love it if the asari companion we will have will be libra and sheaperds daughter because honestly most if not all of us chose to go for liara as a romance. I hope that somehow the geth are being rebuilt and repaired after destroy
I agree about wanting the geth to be rebuilt if the Destroy ending is made canon. It’s the simplest explanation for how to bring them back, but there are some significant challenges, like the Reaper code added to the geth in Mass Effect 3 (depending on the outcome of the war for Rannoch). Liara coming back as a crew member would also be really cool! Bioware released statistics for common choices made through the Legendary Edition, but romance choices weren’t included, so there’s no definitive way to tell which character was romanced most. For those who romanced Garrus or Tali, it would be pretty disheartening if Bioware made Liara the canon romance. So, I doubt we would get a Shepard daughter as a companion.
Great video. You nailed it about the non-military design. I honestly don't think Shepard will be the protagonist. I think searching for him/her will be a great B plot to whatever new A plot they come up with. Something more personal for Liara to lead the charge on. Honestly I think making it a game where you play as the crew of the normandy would be optimal. Playing a game as Garrus and Tali and the rest would be tops in my book. If they want to focus on the Normandy still that's fine but I agree with the sentiment that Shepard had his/her time. Mass Effect needs it's TNG/DS9.
Thanks for the kind words! I agree 100% that the next game would benefit from a more personal story that’s smaller in scale compared to the trilogy. Leaning on Star Trek for inspiration could be a great move as well.
I doubt it's Liara for a few reasons. One-the N7 designation is reserved for humans in the Alliance Military, so it's unlikely for an asari to be sporting the N7 logo and gear, no matter how impressive her background is. Second-yes, this character appears feminine. Still, there are more women in the Mass Effect series than Liara, and there is always the possibility that this is a new feminine character or the feminine version of the new player character. I understand that Liara has been front and center in many of the teases for the next game, but I believe this trailer isn't trying to invoke Liara. Instead, this teaser adds a new piece to the puzzle for us to figure out and speculate on. However, let's entertain the idea that it is, in fact, Liara. This raises many questions: Why is she wearing the N7 logo? Does the Alliance allow asari into their ranks when this game takes place? If so, why-what has changed since the trilogy? Why is she on this mission? What even is this mission? Only time will tell... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I love Thane, too! It's incredible how we develop feelings for these characters. Hopefully, the next game will have many more characters just as memorable and loveable as Thane. Sorry to bring up the sad memories, but thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Liara with shepard me3 was probably canon. It is not shephard. It is his son or daughter from liara. This also means it is not liara in the first trailer. It could have been his offspring.
I don't know. I highly doubt Bioware would canonize something as crucial as Shepard's love interest. Imagine how disappointed Garrus or Tali romancers would be if they had to play Mass Effect 5, knowing their choices from previous games meant nothing. Moreover, this new N7 character is doubtful to be any race other than human simply because the N7 designation is exclusively reserved for Alliance Military personnel. In other words, there cannot be an asari N7. Maybe this rule could change in the next game, and I'd be curious to discover what caused this change. Until then, it's safe to assume this character is human and probably not a child of Shepard. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay Thanks for waking me from my nightmare I had. I am totally a Tali fan. Dont like Liara at all. But luckily you have good valid points. Thanks.
I have to say I disagree! With the exception of the helmet, I quite like this character's look. It appears to be an indication of tone as well, signaling that the next game will be less of a military shooter and more of a spy thriller. This sounds like a very exciting prospect for the franchise, and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes from it. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
If shepard still alive in the next game, it will be the stupidest decision ever made. Make his sacrifice an epic, to then make a mockery of it is beyond idiotic.
You're right that bringing back Shepard risks undercutting the awe and importance of their role in the trilogy. It's a very thin line that Bioware must tread for the next game, and I wish the devs all the best and good luck in handling this can of worms. I'm sure they're feeling the pressure... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Shepard IS the "Mass Effect". He/She influenced the galaxy as much as the relays. I believe they will be back to lead a crew in the new game, can't wait.
After what happened with Andromeda, I'm sure the devs will be much more careful with the next game. Maybe this time, Bioware will make a more convincing protagonist than Ryder, supported by quality writing faithful to the trilogy's tone. As long as the trilogy is honored and the characters are written well for their setting, I think the game will turn out pretty well. The franchise director has indicated that all this has been considered for the next game, so I feel we're in good hands. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@alexanderluthi4028 How do you explain the breath in the Perfect Destroy Ending? This is the only ending in which we are led to believe that Shepard survives the Crucible blast...
@@alexanderluthi4028 Maybe-maybe not. The intention was to leave the possibility of Shepard's survival open for the fans who wanted that to be their Shepard's ending. If you wish your Shepard to have perished in the Crucible blast, that's great! If someone else wants their Shepard to have survived the explosion and live on in some fashion, that's also great! This is where the issue with open-ended conclusions comes in. We fans all have our own endings for our Shepards, and now Bioware has to sort it all out to find a way forward. The devs have a lot of work ahead of them, which I do not envy.
Perhaps, but I'm of the mindset that this is unlikely since the N7 designation is exclusive to humans in the Alliance military. However, the next game can introduce new ideas into the established lore, so we'll see... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I would much rather have Shepard return as a sort of mentor, one that doesn't get killed for shock effect.
This would be a fascinating route to explore. You're right that it's been a trope in stories lately where the "classic" character returns to teach a new generation and is then killed off-a bad trope at that. If Shepard is brought back, they've earned the right to live out their days. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Nah, We want our lord and saviour Shepard back
Yup, that's what I've been saying. Shep should take the place of Andersson.... Without being offed in the end.
@@Audentia89 Exactly! Shepard taking on an Anderson-like role would have so much symbolic weight-it's too good not to include in the next game. Thanks for joining the discussion and sharing your thoughts!
Yeah we need one more story where Shepard finally gets his happy ending he so rightly deserves.
If they do that I hope they use the saves to determine whom he does end up with if anyone at all.
I agree. Some form of save reading has to happen in this case, especially with the release of the Legendary Edition. It's so convenient that it'd be silly if this wasn't pursued.
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Perhaps the N7 agent will be a squadmate? Maybe even on a mission knowing they’ll need Shepard for it?
This is an exciting idea. What kind of mission could call for Shepard to return? It would certainly have to be something big. I'm curious to see how things play out.
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Looks like Edi got the upgrades and with EDI's capabilities she can pretty much upgrade herself or if the sheps got their personalities upgraded/downloaded with the help of SAM
If Shepard lives I think making her an admiral or the human counselor would be the best outcome. If anyone in the galaxy deserves to retire from military life it’s Shepard. How many times do you need to save the galaxy to get at least a promotion
Exactly! She deserves a break from the fighting. Although, entering the ring of galactic politics doesn't sound like much of a vacation to me...
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clone or maybe shepards kid charicter creator could be based on who ever we romanced so maybe we could chose what species this Shepard is
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That’s a great idea especially when we can create how they look and pick and to add more hairstyles like locs n others
Hell no!
@peteramaranth85 But not all couples can have children. For example, Garrus and FemShepard
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m adoption is an option in that case, after all there would be alot of orphans from the reaper war
I feel like the legend of Shepard will be imported but he won’t be in it… I suspect it’ll be reuniting a fractured galaxy post-Reapers
This makes a lot of sense! It would be a very intriguing setting for the game, with so many political situations to manage and chaos to sort out.
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It seems like they’re going for a detective story. Noir heroes can fight, but that’s not their main strength. They also are often depicted wearing long coats and carry a small side arm. The character is lithe, so they’re not a lumbering muscle man, so it’s either not shep at all, or that’s femshep.
I think you're right that the next game will be a detective story. A common thread connecting all the teasers we've seen so far is that the fans must piece together what's happening-we're becoming detectives, solving the mystery of Mass Effect 5. I quite enjoy it, and I think a noir/detective story suits the series very well.
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This universe only works with shepherd. I don’t think making us play as someone else is wise
I don't see it this way. Don't get me wrong, though-I would love to see Shepard in Mass Effect 5, but I don't think the series needs them as the player character for every game moving forward. My worry is that too much Shepard will cause fatigue and eventually tarnish the high esteem we hold the character.
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The entire lore and galaxy revolves around shepherd? I think your worshipping Shep too much
@@edselsledge2940You're comparing a different protagonist to an entirely different galaxy
@@edselsledge2940 The situation is much more nuanced than you're making it out to be. Mass Effect Andromeda had numerous issues, and Ryder's role as the protagonist was not the game's biggest problem. It's too easy to attribute the game's negative reception to this choice.
Assuming the next game's success hinges solely on Shepard's return is a misstep. The game's quality is a result of a myriad of factors, and it's our responsibility to consider them all, rather than issuing ultimatums or creating dogmatic analyses.
Shepard is unique-no one can deny that. They served as the vehicle to show us a rich sci-fi setting in the trilogy. Another character-someone completely new-can do the same, so long as the setting is as fascinating to explore as it was in the trilogy. At the end of the day, the quality of the world and the writing of the character within it is what will make the next Mass Effect remarkable.
@Dankus_Memeus_II Agreed.
Shepard = Mass Effect
I feel like if Shepard is in this game, he’d be introduced similarly to Marcus Fenix in Gears 4 and might not be a main protagonist but as a side character or squadmate.
Fantastic comparison! This seems to be the most straightforward route to Shepard's return, but Bioware may surprise us all with an option we couldn't imagine. I'm excited to find out/
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Would prefer Shepard to either not be present in the next game or appear as an older human who is a mentor/advisor or an Alliance Admiral/General or something.
I wouldn't mind the new game being set hundreds of years in the future either, and meet a matron or matriarch Liara and hear her stories about Shepard. That distance in time would also let the civilizations in the galaxy plausibly reverse-engineer some reaper tech and rebuild the mass relay network and it could introduce new alien species that joined the galactic community after the reapers were defeated.
These are great ideas! This path would lead to some really intriguing narrative ideas to explore, in my opinion, and it would probably be best for the series' long-term health.
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Sheperd gets downloaded into an Edi-like body? Or his body is replaced by a cybernetic body, leaner, meaner, faster with the SAM Upgrades and jump jets, that has been my theory after seeing this.
It's an interesting thought, and it definitely opens up some complicated philosophical questions to explore. We'll see...
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No jump jets please. Made sense for Andromeda since they are explorers but would retcon the older games
We don't want Shepard to be back as the PC. We just want a satisfying ending for him/her. I want to move on with a new character while not ignoring the past. *cough* Andromeda *cough*
Personally I'd love for a sci-fi spy thriller Mass Effect game and honestly the new N7 design fits perfectly for that.
This makes a lot of sense, and I hope this ends up being how things are handled in Mass Effect 5.
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Let Shep enjoy retirement. Returning Shep would be fan service nostalgia bait
@@angeloalvarez5520 that's what I said.
I like the idea too of a mission that feels hopeless, but someone takes up Shepard's name to inspire hope while keeping their true identity hidden.
This would give a new interpretation to the dialogue in the Stargazer scene where the child refers to "The Shepard." Maybe it becomes a mantle of sorts...Interesting idea!
It's Liara for sure , sneaking around for the next adventure
I'm not too sure. N7 is a designation reserved for members of the Alliance Military, i.e., humans. It isn't very likely for an asari to be an N7, but anything is possible for the next game.
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IKR. I saw this trailer before, but right now it just hit me. She looks like Liara.
@@RobsRelay maybe ,but DR. Liara T'soni aka. Shadow broker helps understand crucible plans and build it , and earlier save the galaxy when stops Saren in Mass Effect 1 - she made more than enough to be an exception and be N7 , especially if developers made Liara ,,loved one" of Shepard as canon for next game , so they would have chance to use Shepard name as Access to N7 , like use Shepard as access to be exception and vote herself to be N7 , as Shepard was first human specter , she can be first asari to be N7 , like exception because SHE PROVED TWICE SHE ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO BE N7 , because she first stop Saren , then read crucible plans and help building it in mass effect 3 and help save galaxy two times in a row , or 3 times if we count rescuing Shepard body from collectors for Lazarus project.
@@RobsRelayMaybe she wears it as a memento,Maybe its the same N7 plague she found on Caldera
I mean who is gonna stop her wearing at this point 😅
It’s Kai Leng and we play as him
In all seriousness though I think it’d be interesting if this was a story of Shepard but it was Shepard post alliance in a sort of retirement broken by whatever ends up happening. It’d explain why military grade gear isn’t available/being worn plus Shepard would have the contacts (Liara, Tali and EDI) to acquire new advanced equipment to handle whatever is going on. There could also be a restructuring of the actual military command like N7’s being integrated into Spectre duties/resources in the wake of Reaper losses and whatnot so they get the super slick fancy new equipment that allows for casual look while infiltrating and so on. Idk just spitballing there but you get the point there are routes they could go to explain the aesthetic change while still going down that path. Hell a two thousand years ago military’s wore togas, leather and maybe some bronze if you could manage it. Things change with tech advancement
(Re: Kai Leng) HA!
Good points! You're right that exploring a post-Reaper War galaxy is an intriguing concept, and seeing how Shepard and others are handling the aftermath (more than what a brief cutscene can explain anyway) could be the base for a compelling story.
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@@RobsRelay Great video 😄
Side thought, it’d also make sense for most people’s playthroughs unless you go renegade fully cause there’s a lot of dialogues in romances and even in the very final cutscene with Anderson where Shepard can talk about wanting to settle down and retire more or less. I even remember a line between Shepard and Garrus during the final mission where you say something to the effect of “This is going to be our last ride one way or another. Either I die here or I live and retire somewhere nice. I think I’ve had my fair share of saving the universe.” or something to that effect
@@JourneyTal1 I'm glad you enjoyed it!
You're absolutely right. That's a great catch! It's often overlooked how often Shepard talks about being tired and ready to settle down throughout Mass Effect 3. It would be strange if Shepard returns in the next game and is as pumped to save the galaxy again as in the trilogy-there rightfully should be some pushback.
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The only way I’d see shepherd coming back is like a robotic version/ cyborg or ice freeze him then unfreeze when he’s ready
Well, Shepard is already loaded with cybernetics-it's hard to imagine they'll be the same character with even more. Kinda gives me Adam Smasher vibes...
And I hope they don't go the freezing route because it doesn't make sense for Shepard. If they did survive the Reaper War, why would they go on ice, waiting for the next mission? Shepard even says in Mass Effect 3 that they don't know how many more times they can save the galaxy. Shepard is exhausted and looking forward to retiring after the war, so for them to be frozen feels like a betrayal of the character established in Mass Effect 3. Only time will tell...
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I think Shepard just needs one more story before actually being done. We just need more closure for him and whatever his love interest is (or hers if you chose female shep). Overall Shep just needs/deserves a better ending
I agree! We could use just a bit more time with the character to feel like things are finally wrapped up. Here's hoping!
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Honestly I love the idea of being a new character Shepard's story is finished just give them a good ending and let them be an advisor or a character that pops up once or twice on Shepard focused missions
I think this idea makes the most sense for the series in the long term, and I get the feeling Bioware feels the same.
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I REALLY hope that it isn't Shepard. The galaxy is SO much bigger than one N7 Human, no matter how remarkable they may be. Good settings can, and will, survive a change in protagonist.
Yes, exactly! I agree 100%. Mass Effect has one of the best sci-fi settings of all time, and there is so much to explore that doesn't require Shepard.
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@@edselsledge2940 The pivotal difference between God of War and Mass Effect, between Kratos and Shepard, is the profound influence of player choice. This element is not just a feature but a fundamental aspect that shapes the entire experience.
When we play as Kratos, we don't make decisions about what he does or says. We can only follow the singular narrative path the developers laid out for the character. When we play as Shepard, we can make many different choices and paths to get the character from the beginning to the end of the journey. We can even make it so the character doesn't survive ME2.
In other words, nearly every Mass Effect player has a different idea of who Shepard is based on their decisions. So the story and games aren't really about Shepard at that point-they are more about how we decide to interact with the world and characters.
I'm not saying Shepard should never be the player character in future games. On the contrary, I'd love to play as the character, at least one more time. I am saying that just like God of War will inevitably succeed with Atreus as the player character, Mass Effect can thrive when new protagonists are introduced.
Agreed. People are too attached
@@edselsledge2940shepherd wouldn't even have the same writer. It would be nostalgia bait
@@edselsledge2940 I really think Shepherd deserves retirement, and it doesn't seem like you're invested in all the other aspects of the game. Like all the world building and politics between species
Shepard's story is done and Mass Effect fans need to make their peace with that and stop living in the past. The series is more than Shepard or any one character. It's a story about humanity's role in the milky way.
You make excellent points, and I agree that moving past Shepard is how the franchise will grow into what it has the potential to be.
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whether you like it or not they won’t continue the story in the milky way without shep
@@charlie-gt8ri Initially, I think having Shepard return could be smart, especially to tie up loose ends. Personally, I'd love to see the character at least once more. Beyond that, the Mass Effect franchise can thrive with Milky Way stories that don't involve Shepard, and this, to me, is the best way to ensure the series can prosper in the long run.
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@@RobsRelay No Shepard and a whole new plot and characters to write for ME:A, yet i stopped playing it halfway.
How long ago was the last good new Bioware title? People should stop expecting good titles from companies that did something good more then a decade ago. Allot of people that made the tribology have left in 10 years. These days allot of writers don't explore why and how the source material brought the success of the initial IP anymore. Look at Star Wars, I expect nothing so i won't get disappointed.
@@Abb0able I agree that keeping low expectations is a good move. Bioware has lost a lot of goodwill over the past few years, and it will undoubtedly be a struggle to regain that. The good news is that the current Mass Effect team is comprised of many veterans who worked on the trilogy. The devs are earnestly attempting to ease the concerns about the next game, and it appears that all involved with the project have a genuine and deep love for Mass Effect. I have good feelings about the next game, but my optimism is mixed with caution, like you.
I can't accept anyone but Shepard as main character. Story just doesn't work with him/her
This is a regrettable stance to take. How can you be so sure when we don't even know the story of the next game?
@@RobsRelayI agree with him, at least for the next game. Having shepard as this game's protagonist as a great way to get true closure to Shepard and his squad's story and to pass the torch to the next protagonist
If they bring back Shepard they better bring back Joker, Garrus, Ashley and Kaidan. They are my favorite. But if this is not Shepard I kind of want it to be a descendent of his
Ok here’s my theory, it’s clearly woman and clearly in an Asari helmet. Anyone who’s played knows it’s an achievement in game for all 3 episodes. And at the end of 3 she does her little mating game. She is a Shepard and a T’soni. Whom else would be able to continue to take up the mantle there are most likely 3 1. From the consort 2. Benezia’s follower when she did the whole cypher thing, and Liara’s with the first 2 being a tribute to Shepard after learning of his death the consort would have wanted another in the galaxy who held shepards ethics. And the other asari would do it as a life for life situation. Her life was spared and he died so she incorporated his imprint on a child to balance the life debt.
Wow-there's a lot to unpack here...
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Yikes
If it’s not Shepard I won’t play like I haven’t played Andromeda
How do you know if you'll like a Mass Effect game without Shepard if you have yet to play one?🤔
Andromeda has its issues, but it's settled into a good experience overall. I think you should check it out if you have the time. Plus, the next game is heavily hinting at exploring the plotlines introduced in Andromeda, so might as well give it a go to have the complete understanding of where the story could go.
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@@RobsRelay I agree. ME Andromeda gets way too much of hate for being not like the trilogy. We need to approach it with a open mind.
@@Torsteinhauger Exactly! Funny enough, if there is anything that Mass Effect's themes aspire to teach us, it's to have an open mind.
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If it follow Mass Effect 3 events and if we did the choice to made peace between Geths and Quarians, I hope that the new Mass Effect will give us the posssibility to unlock a Geth as a squadmate again. Legion was cool as a squadmate in ME2 (that we can unlock him early in game with modding tool) and I miss him since he got killed in ME3 so I hope they will give us another Geth again.
I hope so, too. We could use more time with a geth companion, especially one with the new autonomy and individualism they acquired after peace was achieved. Maybe the geth we see in the latest poster (the one wearing knight's armor of some kind) will be a new squadmate. That'd be pretty cool to see.
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@@RobsRelay I didn't see the one from poster. Do you have the link of it please?
@@CraniamonRoyalKnight It's hidden in the club scene, so you have to zoom in big time.
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You might also want to check out this video from Kala Elizabeth discussing the geth and the angara in the poster.
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@@RobsRelay Thank you!
@@CraniamonRoyalKnight No problem!
At minimum we need one more game with Sheperd. To give him or her a proper ending, PERIOD!!! We all know the ME3 ending was B.S. At worst case Sheperd was indoctrinated in the end. Best case Sheperd got lit up and imagined the whole Citadel scene. And he or she barely survived. All the endings were opened ended. Because Bioware must have hired Stephen King to write the original endings inlcuding the add on endings. You know because he can tell a great story but alot of his book's endings suck!!! Just like the ME3 ending
I agree that just a bit more explanation and time with the character are needed to satisfactorily tie up ME3's ending. Here's hoping the next game can provide a more definitive sense of closure.
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IT ending was really weird.
Maybe the helmet is used for a similar reason as the beginning of Mass Effect 2 since you didn't choose your character design yet.
Great observation! You're probably right. Maybe closer to launch, Bioware will reveal the default facial appearances for the female and male player characters.
Shepherd = Dracula = Way Maker = Path Finder
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There are only a few ways I can think of that would make this new protagonist be shepherd.
First and least likely is that the synthesis ending becomes canon and somehow being mixed with synthetic life extends the natural life span of all organic species. But that's very unlikely because even when mixed with machinery I doubt human organic components could last more than 150-200 years at max unless there has been some kind of massive advancement in medical science that slows down the aging process, so even in that case a synthetic shepherd would be too old to be able to continue to do field work.
Second would be if this is a descendent of shepherd, like a grandchild. Also kind of unlikely because even though shepherd had romantic interests in the game making one of them a canon partner would kind of destroy player choice in the previous 3 games and the only way it would be a human descendent would be if shepherd got with one of the human romantic interests like ashley or miranda and they survived and happened to find out they were pregnant after the events of the 3rd game.
Third would be if it's a shepherd clone. When cerberus got ahold of shepherd the first time and tried to resurrect them it's also possible they may have experimented with cloning them in case the project didn't work as planned, which I wouldn't put past them, and it's possible this clone was just in stasis for a long time and finally released at some point prior to the new story time period starting. But I doubt they would have all of shepherds memories and attachments unless they had a memory implanting process like in that movie the 6th day.
Other than that I can't really think of many other ways that they could bring the original shepherd into the new game with the timeline being so far ahead of the 3rd game.
These points make a lot of sense. The fact that we have to go to great lengths to explain why or how this character could be Shepard is the best evidence for why it isn't. In other words, it's much easier to explain that this N7 is an entirely new character.
Despite the high likelihood that this is a new character, it doesn't necessarily mean that Shepard can't show up in the next game-it's possible to have a new character and Shepard. How this could play out is anyone's guess, but it's possible. Also, it's important to note that there have yet to be any confirmations of a timeline for the next Mass Effect. Sure, there have been many rumors and hearsay, but no official confirmations. So, we can't assume with any degree of certainty when the game will take place and all the implications of such a detail.
Thanks for sharing your well-constructed thoughts about the next game! I appreciate reading other perspectives and theories, and it makes me happy to know others enjoy speculating on these mysteries as much as I do.
I feel Shepard surviving might be low. Thing is they should defo ling ME5 to ME1,2 and 3. That way what ever choices we made reflect in ME5. Maybe they can have us properly select what all previous decisions we made in the previous games similar to how we had that comic version at the start of the previous game.
But with that said, some might have gone with the ending of ME3 that resulted in killing of Shepard. So in ME5, for those who went with the ending (like me) to have Shepard survive (Him breathing in the ruble), can have him in game as a side character/mentor/our main character's commander. But for those got the ending where Shepard dies, will have some other character as their Commander.
And so we get to play as a completely different character but with strong links to ME1,2 and 3. Please not like ME4
Interesting ideas! Respecting the choices we made throughout the trilogy is definitely an important factor in the next game. It's probably also Bioware's biggest hurdle. I'm excited to see where the devs take us.
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The franchise doesn’t really need Shepard to keep it going, I’m always down for the torch to be passed onto another new protagonist. Regardless if whether one agrees or disagrees, a protagonist’s story has to come to an end in some capacity.
Personally I don’t think this is Shepard, because they had their whole arc centered around the reapers.
Considering what we’ve seen so far, and know of, the reapers are no longer a threat. So what other storyline could you involve Shepard in that doesn’t require another protagonist?
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Ngl but i heard similar beliefs in andromedas earliest days when the teaser was released and it was confirmed later it wasnt sheperd at all, as much as id love for it to be our sheperd, i think sheperds character development as well as all our companions had their arcs completed at ME3s ending, sheperds war finished with the reapers end imo, maybe its time for another to rise in his footsteps like any hero always does when needed
Astute observation! I agree-Shepard's time in the spotlight may be at its end, and the time for a new hero is on the horizon. We'll see where Bioware takes us.
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I honestly think they could do anything. Reverse engineered reaper tech cultivated from millions of years of harvesting could lead to technologically reanimated AI shepard, alternate universes, shepard halleucinated 3s endings, shepards asari offspring, a gethed up shepars doppleganger, anything really
You're right! There are so many different possibilities for moving the series forward. Some paths I'd rather not see come to fruition, but it's interesting to consider those possibilities. We find ourselves in an exciting time where we can freely speculate about the next game, and I've been enjoying all the scenarios we fans have conjured up to explain the mysteries Bioware keeps leaving for us.
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@@RobsRelay i did share my thoughts
@@carmenlynn5441 I know-I thanked you for doing so. 🙂
@@RobsRelay oops read it as share
I don't think it's Shepard (at least not our Shepard, time travel / multiverse bullshit may potentially make /a/ Shepard be in there). If it's some other Shepard (multiverse shit), then it makes sense they'd hide their identity as soon as they learn that Shepard is dead (in one of the several ways to die)
I think this N7 is not a soldier, but an operative - like what the Spectres were meant to be, an agent from the shadows, not heavily armed or armored unless the situation calls for it - just an outfit that's practical and allows for concealed carry and maybe a shield generator. "Special tactics and recon" - infiltration, sabotage, intelligence gathering, manipulating events from the shadows.
I also figure their helmet is convertible like the nano-tech Ironman suit's - it can entirely deconstruct into a collar or something, and reconstruct into a helmet when needed. What makes me think that is the tight fit of the helmet and the rest of the outfit's looks - it's not armor, so a combat helmet is not necessary either. Instead it's there to mask the wearer's identity. The ability to take it on and off with extreme ease makes it perfect for that, since they can confirm their identity and hide it again in a jiffy.
You make some great points here, and I agree. That's an interesting idea with nanotechnology! The Remnant uses similar nanotechnology, so I wonder if there could be a connection.
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What if they make another really well loved and awesome protagonist to launch a new trilogy with? I love Shepard, but I'm okay closing the book where it is for the commander.
I agree, and a new protagonist sounds really enticing to me. I'm excited to see where Bioware takes us.
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I doubt it’s Shepard. But I also doubt it’s some new N7 young buck. It’s probably some peer to Shepard, and possibly someone closely connected to Shepard, like a past squad are or part of the same N7 class. Shepard went the path of a soldier/leader, but this one could have become more of an espionage agent/1 man toppler of empires
Great observation-I think you're probably right. Whether this is a new character or not, the fact that they are an N7 is a huge deal. It's confirmation that they are the best of the best, and their air of confidence supports this. You're also right about the espionage element-it all feels very secretive.
I've got a good feeling about the next game's vibes, and I'm excited to see where Bioware takes us. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
If shepherd isn't coming back then I'm not either
Could you explain why you feel this way? I'm curious.
@@RobsRelay Sure It's because mass effect (unlike dragon age) from 2007 to 2012 had the same continuous storyline with mostly the same characters but most of all the same protagonist for 3 games straight And ends with What most fans consider to be One of the worst endings in Syfy Made worse by the fact that Casey Hudson specifically said the series would not have an AB or C ending. They then chose to run away from the ending with Andromeda which was mid at best.The original trilogy is a decade-old right now and will more than likely be 20 years old by the time the next game comes out And I simply want 2 things First is proper closure for shepherd And second Is the one more story About the shepherd that the stargazer talked about And because it's taken 20 years I will settle for nothing less
@@lovestospuge666 I see. That's a reasonable stance to take. When Mass Effect 1 first came out, Bioware made it very clear that it was the first in a trilogy, so they kept their word. It's just unfortunate that they didn't stick the landing. Personally, I agree that one more story with Shepard to give a more satisfying conclusion would help restore the fanbase's good graces, and I'd love to be Shepard at least one last time on a new adventure.
Let's say we get the game you're asking for-we get one more story with Shepard, which offers proper closure and respects the trilogy. What do you imagine happens next for Mass Effect?
@@RobsRelay To be honest Im done after the next one
@@lovestospuge666 That's fair. I, on the other hand, would love to see the series continue with a new character (or multiple new player characters) focusing on smaller-scale stories like fighting pirates, overambitious mercenary groups, or new races with hostile intentions (like the Yahg). I'd also be interested in playing stories from different genres set within the Mass Effect universe. Could you imagine a Resident Evil/Dead Space-like survival horror game in Mass Effect's setting? That would be awesome.
Mass Effect is brimming with untapped story potential beyond Shepard and the Reaper War, and after one more great story to neatly close up that arc, the series' future will be pretty exciting.
May I offer a small rebuttal I think is an interesting perspective. If I’m remembering right Humans we’re being submitted for specter training soon after Shepherd had achieved the rank once he set a president. The specter’s are the black hand of the Council. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that the cream of the crop are from spec ops and renowned military units like the N7. That said after the reaper war Shepherd would be considered dead. Ceremony and funerals would be held all across the Galaxy for those that couldn’t make it. Anderson, Shepherd, Mordin and the like. So aside from reclaiming a life in the human military where else would someone like Shepherd go after they are discovered alive by a reclamation team? Well if I were a politician I’d dip his file in black ink and then pretend like he’s an entirely new person. No need for ceremony or induction since he already was a specter. Military service to Military Intelligence. Who better than the man who led multiple small squad insertions against the will of gods.
If I understand you correctly, you're theorizing that if Shepard survived ME3, the governments and military would keep their existence a secret so they could assist in covert military operations. Is this what you're saying?
In my personal opinion, i want shepherd back. I wouldn't mind if they changed it to a new character. I'll still play if it's good.
I, too, would like to see Shepard one more time, if only for a few scenes that more satisfyingly tie up their story. I would also be thrilled to play as a new character, especially if the game is great. The developers at Bioware have a lot of work ahead of them, and I'm excited to see where they take us.
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It would be funny if the next protag was called ghost _______ Ghost.
Im commander ghost & this is my favorite comment on the citadel
Funny!
I think Shepard will return maybe not as the playable character but they will be in the game in some sort of fashion
I like this prediction. This route may be Bioware's cleanest path forward, but only time will tell.
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Honestly I think I would be happy to play a new character but still have Shepard be a part of the story, would be nice to actually choose more about your character including species, similar to what Jedi Academy did.
I concur. Although, choosing your player character's species could make the story very complicated to design. We'll see what Bioware gives us...
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@@AvoozlPlays Good point. The biggest difference between the two is the story implications. In Jedi Academy, it didn't really matter what race you chose to play as-the story played out exactly the same. On the other hand, every Mass Effect game explores themes of social, cultural, and conflicts between the Milky Way races. Krogans are treated differently than asari. Asari are treated differently than humans, batarians, turians, etc.
To make the experience of playing as one of these races engaging and immersive, unique interactions would have to be crafted for every race, and the main story would have to be streamlined so that it makes sense for every race to participate. Consider how Mass Effect 1 allowed us to pick Shepard's background, and NPCs would comment on the one defining event attached to that background. This would need to be done if we play as other races, but it would require at least ten times more writing and scripting work than ME1.
I'm not saying it isn't possible-it absolutely is! It would just take a really, really long time to do, and even longer if the devs wanted to do it very well. I don't know about you, but I'd like to play the next Mass Effect within the next four to five years. Not ten.
It's not like they have to cover every race though, a few extras wouldn't hurt, maybe just the popular races.
@@AvoozlPlays You're right. My guess is that the Council races would be the most requested from players. Still, it would be a staggering amount of work even if the only options are human, turian, salarian, and asari. I'm not opposed to the idea of playing as other races-I think it could open the way for some interesting stories and themes to be explored. I'd be concerned that the overall quality of the game could suffer with the amount of attention it would take to pull it off in a compelling fashion. Only time will tell...
If Shepard is back I'll play it as long as its not for a modern audience .
What does a "modern audience" mean to you? I'm curious.
So, what i am thinking in ME5 will happen. We all know the citadel is one bigass relay, that has huge ranges (enough to bring reapers from darkspace), i`m thinking they link the two galaxies (andromeda and milky way) through it, there also are a bunch more huge range relays as well (ALPHA relay i think it was called.
Interesting idea! You're right that there are still many unsolved mysteries regarding particular relays, which can be used as a clever way to create new story material for the next game.
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Seen as Liara was meant to be the offical love interest what if the N7 character is Shepard and Liars daughter?
There is no official love interest or canon romance. Mass Effect is an RPG that prioritizes player choice. If the next game releases and retroactively decides that some players made the wrong choice (romancing Garrus, Tali, Miranda, etc.), fans would be heartbroken, to say the least. While we don't know much about the next game, I'm confident that Bioware will prioritize honoring all the love interests players chose in the trilogy.
That said, let's entertain the idea that this N7 is the daughter of Shepard and Liara. Any child this couple has would be an asari, which could explain the female presenting figure in the trailer. However, N7 is an Alliance military rank reserved for humans only. Provided Bioware doesn't retcon this detail, it makes the most sense that this character is human.
Could they still be biologically related to Shepard? Maybe-but I find this unlikely. It's easier to accept that this is the new player character, who could be whichever gender the player chooses. This trailer happens to show the female presenting version of the character.
Of course, it's much too early to say, and we know so little about the next game to make any hard conclusions. We're meant to speculate on this person's identity using our existing knowledge of the franchise. Only time will tell who they really are...
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Hmm pretty sure the game will be titled Mass Effect 4, Andromeda was pretty much like a spin-off after all so yeah I think it might be a return of Shepard or maybe a protege?
Interesting! A protege situation could be fascinating to explore.
I'm not sure about the title. All the teases for the next Mass Effect indicate that the Andromeda storyline will continue in some fashion, which confirms that Bioware doesn't consider Andromeda a spin-off. In fact, it was never intended to be. I think it's safe to assume that the next game will be a sequel to both the trilogy and Andromeda, so it may make more sense to choose a title along the lines of "Mass Effect" plus some word that describes the story it will tell.
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There is no ending where Shepard is fit to fight anyway. In Control, Refusal, and Synthesis, Shepard straight up dies even in the best-case scenario. For Destroy, they survive just barely, likely with all of their cybernetics ruined, and are dying in the wreckage of the Crucible and Citadel. If they do survive past this scene (Which, imo, they should, otherwise the scene would be worthless) it makes no sense for them to continue serving. Given that Destroy is the most likely "canon" ending for this upcoming game, I think it makes far more sense for Shepard to be in a political position or entirely retired in the next game.
As for the N7, they are likely either the new PC or a squadmate. Assuming that they learned from Alec, it can't be anything else.
Personally I want them to be a squadmate. Why? I want flexibility with the new PC. Dragon Age Style. Lemme be a different species in a meaningful way.
I agree entirely. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Thank you for sharing this video! I believe that the N7 character we saw in the trailer will be a new protagonist, and I sincerely hope it includes proper character customization options. My biggest concern is that the controllable character might be a female-only protagonist. While I have nothing against female leads, I've noticed this trend becoming more common in recent games. Personally, I prefer to play as a character that reflects myself, including my gender. If the next Mass Effect adopts a style similar to Star Wars: Outlaws, I fear it might not resonate well with fans.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The next game may be shrouded in mystery, but there is nothing to worry about regarding the player character and customization features. The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation.
Every Bioware game for the past 15+ years has offered players the choice to customize their character how they wish, and this remains consistent in the case of the upcoming Dragon Age: The Veilguard. There is zero evidence to suggest that Bioware is even considering abandoning this approach with the next Mass Effect, so there is nothing to fear.
That said, I don't see the issue with Femshep or a female-presenting N7 being the poster figure for the game. It's not like doing so means that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing your concerns. I appreciate these conversations because they prove that fans still love the series and want the next game to succeed.
I definitely want the next game to finally giev us a satisfying ending for Shepard but i would love for them yo have a role similar to Hawks in DA:I
I agree, and I think this approach will probably have the best overall result and fan response. We'll see...
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A Mad Max movie without Mad Max. We saw how successful that was. Lesson learned. Imagine a Batman video game without the iconic Batman. I was ripped off with money grab, Andromeda. I won't hold my breath for this one and I'll wait to see the reviews -after- the game releases. Hopefully they have enough OG devs and coders left to crank out a good Mass Effect game again.
I'm hoping you can clarify what point you're trying to make because I'm a bit confused. Furiosa currently has a 90% critic score and an 89% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, and its box office earnings are higher than its budget (it made a profit), so it was actually a huge success. Are you trying to say that a Mass Effect game without Shepard could be very successful? That's what your example indicates...
And what about the Halo TV show that features Master Chief? That wasn't a recipe for success...
You're wise to wait to purchase the game until you've seen reviews or gameplay that assures its quality. This is an excellent practice for all game purchases. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
the person in mass effect 5's teaser trailer looks a lot slimmer and sleeker almost a little bit like a female body, there can be structures for other beings such as males that can also be quite slim as well but it Extinction looks feminine to me. (sorry for my bad spelling mistakes)
This is true! It's worth noting that there are both female and male versions of Shepard, so if this character is indeed Shepard, we could simply be seeing the Femshep version of the trailer. On the other hand, if this is a brand new character that ends up being the protagonist, we can reasonably deduce that this is the female-presenting version of this N7 in this teaser. There will more than likely be a male version for players to choose from since Bioware games almost always allow the player to customize their character.
@@RobsRelay i do agree with what you are saying Bioware is known for customisable character in there games mostly but and I can be wrong I think this maybe how ever this could be maybe related to commander Shepard aka like a son or daughter depending on which relationship you ended up having with one of your female or male crewmates or hell it could be Shepard's secret sister that we all did not know about, .... know that i think about it it would be cool if that was true but that's my wishful thinking.
@@insanegorilla4874 Interesting idea-we'll see where Bioware takes us...
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man, I really wish this is Shepard, He gotta come back and get his happy ending with Kaiden. I really hope it is, even though I think it definitely isn't ;-;
It would be great to see Shepard return, even briefly, to see a well-earned happy conclusion for the character. It would put a lot of long-held fan anguish to rest. You're probably right that this N7 is an entirely new character, though. Only time will tell...
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As much as I love having Shepherd as the main character they can replace him. If the story is well written, unlike andromeda, it will be fine
I agree! With a setting as unique and interesting as Mass Effect's, many stories with many different protagonists can be explored.
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I would be cool with Shepard coming back as the character you play but they need to expand it in the sense that you make your own character and choice in race with that alien race having its own backstory depending on what you choose. Like the original Dragon Age or like how Mass Effect 1 allowed you to choose your background story with the choice of picking a different alien Race too.
Playing as other races could be a fascinating route to go down! Although, I'm afraid developing a game with those features could take quite a long time, especially if we want it to have the kind of character depth it deserves. Could you imagine waiting another ten years for the next Mass Effect? That thought bums me out, personally...
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I can’t say I’m convinced. Pretty sure BioWare have said shepards story is finished
This is true-on several occasions, Bioware devs have stated that Shepard's story is done. Even franchise director Michael Gamble is on the record as having said something to this effect. However, the hints and teases that the next game will have at least a little something to do with Shepard-the N7 2023 Bioware Blog post, for example.
Your skepticism is valid, though. I'm not sure we'll get another game with Shepard as a protagonist, either. In any case, it's much too early to say one way or the other with any degree of certainty.
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@@RobsRelay you’re welcome! Good video
@@NovaG0 I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I am getting a detective or assassin vibe from this new look
Me too. This N7 has to be some kind of covert operative, carrying out more secretive assignments than combat-heavy military operations. The tone of all the teasers thus far has evoked a sense of mystery, too, so I'm leaning more toward the detective side of your observation. A detective/mystery thriller is an excellent idea to explore in the world of Mass Effect, and I'm excited to see where Bioware takes us.
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@@RobsRelay I am down for it and hopefully we get to play as other races
ME 4* looks interesting, and as others said ME only works with Shepard.
*I say ME4 because this is a direct continuation of the first three Shepard based games.
Andromeda is it's own thing and not the same as Shepard's ME games.
I beg to differ! Plenty of other Mass Effect stories work very well without Shepard as the protagonist. The setting and themes are the series' defining features-this keeps fans returning to the games, not one character in particular.
Moreover, we don't know that the next game will continue the story told in the trilogy. N7 Day 2023 had more than a few details pointing to the Mass Effect Andromeda, so it's just as valid to believe the game will continue that story somehow.
Ultimately, it's far too early to say what the game will be with any degree of certainty, so it's best to avoid setting any rigid expectations.
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I love Shepard as much as next Mass Effect fan, but OG trilogy was Shepard's story, there is no need to mess with it and potentially antagonize a lot of people. I hope than not only we get new MC, but can chose from different races (at least humanoid one's). It was one of my biggest letdowns in Andromeda, we literally go to another galaxy in ships full of people of different races, yet are forced to play good old boring human.
We'll never be able to choose different species in a single player mass effect. A multiplayer one of course but it's just too many variables to account for when you're trying to tell a specific story
@@thecreed1212 Very wise take! There is already so much player choice and consequence baked into Mass Effect-adding even one more playable race could quadruple the number of variables the developers and writers must deal with.
At the core of Mass Effect's themes is humanity's place in the galaxy-how humans can keep up with the other races. The Illusive Man and Cerberus' take on this issue is to dominate the other races. Shepard's take on the issue is to cooperate and become an asset that harmonizes with them. Alec Ryder's solution is to implement AI to enhance human abilities. Playing as a human is a crucial part of exploring this theme, and I'm hesitant to say that Bioware is willing to let go of that.
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I hope this game is gonna be on PS4. It wouldn’t make sense if it’s gonna be on PS five I mean I have the whole collection about this. It would be complete.😢
I'm sorry to say, but I don't have high hopes that the next Mass Effect will make it to PS4. The game is still several years away, and we'll probably be in the PS6 generation by then, so it would have a very tough time running on old hardware. Don't worry - your collection can still be complete even if you have the game on different platforms!
I think it’s best if BioWare come up with a new protagonist and jump 200 years forward after the Reaper War and combine the classic trilogy with Andromeda.
Liara, Wrex and Grunt are still around to bring nostalgia and reference the past, helping the new character with their establishment. New characters bring new life into the Mass Effect and can be used for the future games.
Over focusing on Shepard means living in the past. The franchise should move forward.
This is a very wise take, and I concur. Once we can finally let Shepard rest, there is so much more to be explored in Mass Effect, and I'm excited to get to that point.
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Too bad my Shepard now hang out with Reaper now for 50k years😂
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Nah dude I want him to be alive I just wanna keep my promise to Miranda and come see her again my guy had so much war in life let the man have a happy ending!!!
I sympathize! I'd love to see my Shepard back with their love interest, at least once. And a happy ending wouldn't hurt either. We'll see!
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It's EA. They never miss an opportunity to turn great art into an expensive turd.
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If so, does that mean that Fem-Shep is canon?
No. The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation across every Bioware title.
Featuring Femshep or a female presenting N7 as the poster figure for the trailers does not mean that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters.
@RobsRelay yaay! Thank goodness for that, at least then. Here's hoping they stay their path. Thnx for the info.
If Bioware wants the Mass Effect series to truly move on and get the backing of the fans, they NEED to make this next game a closure of Shepard's story. Shepard needs to be the playable protagonist with VERY satisfying ending, A very HAPPY ENDING!
There's a lot of truth to what you say here. So many of us fans have lingering questions and are dissatisfied with Shepard's ending from Mass Effect 3. The N7 Day 2023 blog post has cheeky references to these exact things.
Mike Gamble writes, "We’ve asked ourselves many of the same questions you’ve asked us over the years! What happened to everyone you know and love in the games? Who really died? Who had kids with whom? What does a baby volus sound like? What about all the galaxies? The endings! What the heck is going on with our asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker? What about S- nevermind…you get the idea. And of course, to those questions, there are answers, but you’ll have to wait to hear them."
The very fact that the devs are hinting at these details is a good enough reason to assume that Shepard's ending will be addressed in the next game. I'm excited to see where Bioware takes things!
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if it's not Shepard I'm not Buying it
Could you explain why you feel this way? I'm curious.
Something id like is where you can choose the Heritage of your character like for example because of how many different romance options like your predominant ancestors is shepard but you can choose your other ancestor
This is a really neat idea! Implementing a feature like this would probably be very difficult due to the sheer number of narrative possibilities it creates, but it's a clever way to solve the issue of a "canon romance" option. I'm glad you shared this idea because I haven't seen it before, and I love hearing new ideas for the next game. Thanks so much for watching and adding to the conversation!
@RobsRelay see thats one of the reasons it works because of the possibilities we have seen Backstories in other bio were titles like dragon age for example so yes it would be hard to implement but simple at the same time in general it would fun to see yes we still play a shepard the dependent of the original a possibility of game play is some like the krogan actually rembering shepard for good or bad actually knowing the original shepard an treating you accordingly do to the actions that where picked or selected depending on if there is a choice in that regard
Let Shepherd enjoy his/her retirement
They certainly deserve it!
Master Chief didn't get one. 😂
@@Shepard_N7 Haha! 🤣
Isn't that sad, though? Chief definitely earned a retirement, but he was brought back, and the quality of the narrative for those games dipped (Halo 4 and on).
I'm concerned the same could happen with Shepard. But who knows? Maybe Shepard won't get their retirement and will be the player character in the next game, and it'll get a 100 Metacritic score! We'll see...
True, poor Chief does deserve a retirement. The halo series did get a little rough after 4. I think Infinite was pretty good imo.
I'd personally like to see Shepard's arc wrapped up a little bit better. There's so many open-ended elements at the end of ME3. Like the whole indoctrination theory. I think we should get one more ride with Shep! @RobsRelay
@@Shepard_N7 I agree entirely! I would love at least a bit more time with my Shepard and the crew to feel a definitive sense of closure.
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It's Conrad Verner.
You might be onto something... 🤔
I think it could be a offspring of shepherd and who ever the play hard a relationship with in mass effect 1 to 3 if the continued the relationship with Lara
This would be difficult to explain in cases like the Femshep romance with Garrus or the male Shepard romance with Tali, but anything's possible.
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Mass Effect should continue on with number 4, if its a continuation of the "Red" (True) ending of ME3.
I'm also open to an another "side story" like Andromeda.
The title of the next game is a fascinating topic. I get the feeling that it will likely be something similar to Andromeda-"Mass Effect" plus some other word that describes the story it will tell. Being a numbered entry is challenging because it creates such a heavy expectation for the game to live up to the trilogy, which I sincerely hope it does.
To be clear, Andromeda wasn't intended to be a side story. It is a full-fledged Mass Effect game that sought to move the franchise forward while maintaining the integrity of the players' choices from the trilogy. Unfortunately, things didn't pan out as the developers anticipated...
I also want to point out that ME3 has no "True" ending. Personally, I enjoy Perfect Destroy the most, but I would never deny someone who believes Control is the best ending for their Shepard. Of course, the themes and implications of each ending are fun to respectfully discuss, and that's the best part of having multiple endings.
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@@RobsRelay
Andromeda was quite a....Show.
It was hampered with being forced to play on a completely new engine, WHICH did lead to future progress for EA...But the Studio paid dearly for it.
"True" ending
Only the "Destroy" ending has Shepard breathing under rubble, every other ending is an utopian "UNITY" ending that would have the reapers laughing to the bank. They're too perfect, as if...SHEPARD WAS INDOCTRINATED!!!...
which is why i like the Red coloured ending more because it is the most interesting with some ongoing conflict.
@@hunn20004 I concur. Perfect Destroy leaves the series intriguingly positioned to continue. We'll see how Bioware handles this can of worms...
It’s Liara all along🎶
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wouldnt it be total lame, if we would never get the Chance to play as someone from the other Races? We have a universe full of cool species here, and some people just want to play a Human again? ME is can be more then that.
You're right that it's somewhat of a missed opportunity, but that's only so far-it's entirely possible that we can get a game like this in the future, so don't lose hope!
The only trouble comes from the idea of being able to select between multiple races in one game. The complexity this would add to the development process shouldn't be overlooked. However, I think any hurdles could be avoided if we had a game where we could only play as a turian (or whatever race that would best suit the story the developers want to explore).
That said, I understand the arguments for only playing as a human. One of the central themes of the series is humanity's relationship to the rest of the Milky Way, which is addressed in the intro text for nearly every game. Plus, humans are the characters we relate to most, for obvious reasons, so it brings us that much closer to the player character. We'd be giving this up if we played as salarians, asari, etc.
At the end of the day, I'm down for anything as long as it's a great story and it's fun to play. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay i dont see a problem with that. look at Baldurs Gate 3. There it worked very fine.
@@Quadnt True! Still, BG3 had a very unusual development process and was in early access for about three years. These factors paved the way for the game to be as massive and thorough as it is now. It's unlikely the next Mass Effect will have that same treatment. Plus, I don't imagine many fans would be okay with having an early-access version of the game for a few years before the full release. The next game really needs to be practically flawless to win back the fan faith lost during the release of Andromeda, and sticking to a more traditional development timeline seems like the smartest way to achieve that.
Who ever that is, I want that trench coat
Same!
Just bring back Shepard
I completely understand the desire to see Shepard return. We'll see what Bioware does...
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I think its q mix of shepard and a ai,maybe a ai who thinks hes the origional shepard or shepard who lived longer through cybernetics.
This is an intriguing idea! It would certainly open the way to exploring themes of identity, asking questions that get to the core of who we really are and what makes us a person.
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curious on if anyone else has picked up on the fact none of mass effect 3's endings are now cannon, due to the fact ending 1 has you control the reapers, ending 2 has you combining organic and synthetic life together and ending 3 has you wipe all synthetic and ai based forms, there fore having geth in mass effect 5 wouldn't make sense as if you chose ending 3 you wiped them out along side the reapers, and you can't have ending 1 or ending 2 because the next mass effect game shows dead reapers. there-fore as much as it will break peoples hearts, Commander John shepard will not make a return as mass effect 5 would not be following any of the set timelines
We don't know anything for sure, so I'd hold off on saying anything is a fact just yet. Even after a few years of teasers, we don't know anything concrete about the next game's setting or placement on the timeline. Perhaps you're right that this game will be on a new timeline and act as a reboot, but it's all speculation at this point. Only time will tell, but for now, we cannot say with any degree of certainty if any ME3 ending is canon, not canon, or otherwise. I'm very excited to see where Bioware takes us, though...
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i wish they would let my bother rest. but these ppl just keep dragging his name through everything trying to make him the only sole character in which we can play.
Andromeda was good for trying to branch the story further by showing us that all the species in the milky way had other plans to keep their ppl alive (sending colony ships to a different galaxy escaping the Reaper threat that they didn't know if they could win) & Ryder & other pathfinders mission is to make sure that their efforts were not in vain.
then all of a sudden these so called fans just trashed the game..
why? because it wasn't shepherd & wasn't the aftermath story & or anything they thought it was so they throw a childish tantrum review bombing without giving the story a fair chance to even tell the story they tried to show acting like graphics are a necessity to tell a story.
& now the new mass effect is going to have the same problem if they want to tell a new characters story. tantrums, review bombing & nothing but hate if shepherd isn't in it. at this point i am just disappointed to even consider myself a huge fan die hard even. this game was the reason i fell in love with story driven games with great characters be they random npc or companions in 1 amazing universe.
it's to a point i don't even call myself a fan because of those types of ppl. you are not a fan if you don't give it a fair & unbiased chance to be what it can. A story of a character can only go so fair so stop dragging Shepherd around like a dam dog & let him rest something he needs & deserves.
if anything i would have loved to yes meet them in the new game & if not maybe his children & spouse (whoever you chose). maybe even be one of his child's squad mate & or relative... something like that. but let shepherd's story be complete like dam he had 3 full amazing games which told his story.
I completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree entirely. It truly is disheartening to see so many supposed Mass Effect fans eagerly trash a game, let alone a yet-to-be-released game about which we know very little. However, I don't believe these individuals are even fans since they cannot seem to grasp what the series is actually about.
I made my channel for fans like you-people who want to openly and thoughtfully discuss Mass Effect in a positive way. Your perspectives and ideas are valuable, and I encourage viewers to be open-minded about the future of the series and all the exciting possibilities that can be explored in the rich setting that Bioware has created.
So, even though reading so much hate and silly tantrums about Mass Effect is disappointing, don't lose hope. The folks who love these games and stories are here-I'm one of 'em! The noise all the fake fans kick up always inevitably dies down, and what's left are those who appreciate what Mass Effect really stands for. Stick around, and I guarantee you'll find a home here amongst the fans who want to see the series thrive.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and frustrations with the fanbase. I hope you come back for more and engage in thoughtful conversations about this series we hold so dear.
As much I want to be hype for this I won’t as long as EA is evolve.
I understand where you're coming from, and being cautious is wise. For better or worse, EA will always be involved in Mass Effect, so as fans, we have to come to terms with this in whatever way we think best. I stand with cautious optimism, and I'm interested to see what happens.
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Companies need to quit starting over in tge first place. So many people invested on the trilogy they would buy #4 even if its bad.
Like Saints Row even if the gameplay was bad if it continued with the same characters people would have forgave the bad things
You're oversimplifying the situation a bit. The game must still be good; otherwise, most players won't be interested in playing. The fans you're speaking of, those who'll forgive the rough parts of a game, are already sold-fans like this are already more than likely going to pick up the next game no matter what. This is, unfortunately, a small number compared to the casual fans or people completely new to the series. Making a genuinely incredible game (new characters or old) is a much better move than making a mediocre one.
I hope they don’t go pushing a female shepherd as the main either. Most people played as male shepherd.
The developers clarified in interviews and the book "Stories and Secrets from 25 Years of Game Development" that the studio will not prioritize a gender for any protagonist moving forward. In other words, there will not be a canon gender for the main character. There will be equal representation.
That said, I don't see the issue with a Femshep or female-presenting N7 being the poster figure for the game. It's not like doing so means that male Shepard doesn't exist or is somehow less valid. Ultimately, whatever the gender of the character used in marketing materials is a non-issue because who YOU play as in-game is what really matters.
New N7 is Liara
Maybe! However, the N7 outfit leads me to believe that this character is a human since only humans in the Alliance military can earn N7 status. Things may have changed after the events of Mass Effect 3, though. Only time will tell...
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I think that's Liara
Maybe! However, the N7 outfit leads me to believe that this character is a human since only humans in the Alliance military can earn N7 status. Things may have changed after the events of Mass Effect 3, though. Only time will tell...
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Why is everyone calling it mass effect 5? If its a direct sequel of the original trilogy it will be ME4. If its a continuation of andromeda it would be Andromeda 2. If its neither, it will be its own thing.
It's not really as big of a deal as you may think. The next game will be the fifth Mass Effect game in the series, so it makes sense to simply refer to it as ME5 for now. It is not a hard confirmation that it will be the official title. We don't have very many concrete details about the next game's plot, so we can't say with any degree of certainty if it will continue the trilogy or Andromeda. However, many clues point to it continuing both games' stories.
If I had to guess, you're right that it will likely be its own title, "Mass Effect: (fill in the blank)." If it were titled ME4 or Andromeda 2, there would be so much baggage attached, so I think that would be avoided altogether.
I doubt that we will be playing shealerd again but I do think they will be part of the story weather main or dlc
If we are playing someone new I would love it if the asari companion we will have will be libra and sheaperds daughter because honestly most if not all of us chose to go for liara as a romance. I hope that somehow the geth are being rebuilt and repaired after destroy
I agree about wanting the geth to be rebuilt if the Destroy ending is made canon. It’s the simplest explanation for how to bring them back, but there are some significant challenges, like the Reaper code added to the geth in Mass Effect 3 (depending on the outcome of the war for Rannoch).
Liara coming back as a crew member would also be really cool! Bioware released statistics for common choices made through the Legendary Edition, but romance choices weren’t included, so there’s no definitive way to tell which character was romanced most. For those who romanced Garrus or Tali, it would be pretty disheartening if Bioware made Liara the canon romance. So, I doubt we would get a Shepard daughter as a companion.
Great video. You nailed it about the non-military design. I honestly don't think Shepard will be the protagonist. I think searching for him/her will be a great B plot to whatever new A plot they come up with. Something more personal for Liara to lead the charge on. Honestly I think making it a game where you play as the crew of the normandy would be optimal. Playing a game as Garrus and Tali and the rest would be tops in my book. If they want to focus on the Normandy still that's fine but I agree with the sentiment that Shepard had his/her time. Mass Effect needs it's TNG/DS9.
Thanks for the kind words! I agree 100% that the next game would benefit from a more personal story that’s smaller in scale compared to the trilogy. Leaning on Star Trek for inspiration could be a great move as well.
We already know that it will take place over 600 years after the trilogy, because they're involving MEA lore in the story
what if it's Lara? Seems feminine in shape.
I doubt it's Liara for a few reasons. One-the N7 designation is reserved for humans in the Alliance Military, so it's unlikely for an asari to be sporting the N7 logo and gear, no matter how impressive her background is.
Second-yes, this character appears feminine. Still, there are more women in the Mass Effect series than Liara, and there is always the possibility that this is a new feminine character or the feminine version of the new player character.
I understand that Liara has been front and center in many of the teases for the next game, but I believe this trailer isn't trying to invoke Liara. Instead, this teaser adds a new piece to the puzzle for us to figure out and speculate on.
However, let's entertain the idea that it is, in fact, Liara. This raises many questions: Why is she wearing the N7 logo? Does the Alliance allow asari into their ranks when this game takes place? If so, why-what has changed since the trilogy? Why is she on this mission? What even is this mission?
Only time will tell...
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Now u made me sad when u mentioned thane😢 I liked him
I love Thane, too! It's incredible how we develop feelings for these characters. Hopefully, the next game will have many more characters just as memorable and loveable as Thane. Sorry to bring up the sad memories, but thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@RobsRelay it’s ok it’s sad how he died though at least he died a hero
@@CiaraC-hh7rm Indeed. RIP Thane.
I hope that is a NEW character. I want new.
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Liara with shepard me3 was probably canon. It is not shephard. It is his son or daughter from liara. This also means it is not liara in the first trailer. It could have been his offspring.
Asari can’t have male children since all asari are female plus when they do have children they will always be asari
@@Dankus_Memeus_II exactly. Still explaining the asari on the trailer.
I don't know. I highly doubt Bioware would canonize something as crucial as Shepard's love interest. Imagine how disappointed Garrus or Tali romancers would be if they had to play Mass Effect 5, knowing their choices from previous games meant nothing.
Moreover, this new N7 character is doubtful to be any race other than human simply because the N7 designation is exclusively reserved for Alliance Military personnel. In other words, there cannot be an asari N7. Maybe this rule could change in the next game, and I'd be curious to discover what caused this change. Until then, it's safe to assume this character is human and probably not a child of Shepard.
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@@RobsRelay Thanks for waking me from my nightmare I had. I am totally a Tali fan. Dont like Liara at all. But luckily you have good valid points. Thanks.
@mizmera The developers confirmed that in the 2020 teaser it was Liara
I bet you they knew Shepard
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Hate the stupid trenchcoats/ capes
I have to say I disagree! With the exception of the helmet, I quite like this character's look. It appears to be an indication of tone as well, signaling that the next game will be less of a military shooter and more of a spy thriller. This sounds like a very exciting prospect for the franchise, and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes from it.
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I dont think it’s Shepard.
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If shepard still alive in the next game, it will be the stupidest decision ever made. Make his sacrifice an epic, to then make a mockery of it is beyond idiotic.
You're right that bringing back Shepard risks undercutting the awe and importance of their role in the trilogy. It's a very thin line that Bioware must tread for the next game, and I wish the devs all the best and good luck in handling this can of worms. I'm sure they're feeling the pressure...
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No is another character.
You might be right, and I'm inclined to agree.
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I would really like it to be Shepard or Shepard's daughter in the next game.
It would be nice to see Shepard for one last ride. We'll see!
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Shepard IS the "Mass Effect". He/She influenced the galaxy as much as the relays. I believe they will be back to lead a crew in the new game, can't wait.
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well ryder experiment failed so what next? 🤣😂😅 create a new ryder?
After what happened with Andromeda, I'm sure the devs will be much more careful with the next game. Maybe this time, Bioware will make a more convincing protagonist than Ryder, supported by quality writing faithful to the trilogy's tone. As long as the trilogy is honored and the characters are written well for their setting, I think the game will turn out pretty well. The franchise director has indicated that all this has been considered for the next game, so I feel we're in good hands.
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I don't want this to be Shepard
Something about this character just doesn't feel like Shepard to me as well, but we'll see...
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@@RobsRelay Shepard died in me 3 he shouldn't come back no matter which flavor of explosion he was in
@@alexanderluthi4028 How do you explain the breath in the Perfect Destroy Ending? This is the only ending in which we are led to believe that Shepard survives the Crucible blast...
@@RobsRelay even if he survived he would still die of injuries and because he was 70% robot he wasn't going to survive anyway
@@alexanderluthi4028 Maybe-maybe not. The intention was to leave the possibility of Shepard's survival open for the fans who wanted that to be their Shepard's ending. If you wish your Shepard to have perished in the Crucible blast, that's great! If someone else wants their Shepard to have survived the explosion and live on in some fashion, that's also great!
This is where the issue with open-ended conclusions comes in. We fans all have our own endings for our Shepards, and now Bioware has to sort it all out to find a way forward. The devs have a lot of work ahead of them, which I do not envy.
Shepard and Liara's blue child?
Perhaps, but I'm of the mindset that this is unlikely since the N7 designation is exclusive to humans in the Alliance military. However, the next game can introduce new ideas into the established lore, so we'll see...
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