ATEM Mini Pro ISO | Production Workflow
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2020
- The ATEM Mini Pro ISO HDMI Live Stream Switcher from Blackmagic Design is a four-input live production switcher with an integrated control panel designed for multicamera live streaming up to HD video to the internet via Ethernet output. It features a USB output that allows you to record the program output as well as record the individual HDMI inputs to an external USB drive (not included). In addition to recording the program stream and individual inputs, the ATEM Mini Pro ISO also records the embedded audio and analog audio inputs, generating a DaVinci Resolve project file of your live stream. This allows you to take your live production into DaVinci Resolve to make tweaks or adjustments using the source material that is already on your USB drive.
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I am so thankful I found this video - I was way overthinking how I was going to solve my problem. You just saved me a ton of time.
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
I got mine delivered today. It was easy to get up and running with it, but I didn't know the stuff covered in the video. It was exactly what I needed.
That’s amazing technology for the price! Good demo as well. Easy to understand.
Thanks for watching!
Great Info! Concise and well put together. Thanks!
hi.. thank you for the great video. quick question, how do you replace camera angle in the edit timeline (ex. from test cam 4 to test cam 1) thanx
very good video. u gave a great overview for the whole thing and didnt make it to complicated aswell. very happy i watched this video! keep it going dude =)
I checked out the codec used to create the MP4 ISO files. A bit disappointing they didn't use h265. For full HD, I don't think performance would be a problem. Anyway, turns out the audio is 32bit. Thats impressive indeed. No wonder it looks like there is loads of headroom in the audio meters.
What a great, comprehensive video!
Thanks for watching!
brilliantly well explained, thanks very much :)
Having the project file come up in Resolve synced to the original files is great, but I was most impressed with being able to redo the cuts as if you were still live. THAT'S trick! Can you also insert new material ("Inserts") without losing this sync? If I were using the live production for limited content in an expanding documentary? Is that a viable (considered) workflow?
Once you have the project in resolve, you can do anything you want to it. You can change the shots, the timing of the cuts, add transitions, add new material, etc etc etc. You will not lose sync. The live portion of your doc will be the easiest part to put together. Definitely viable.
I missed selecting the video-quality for the recording. Do you have another video that shows how to set the bitrate for each recorded camera?
This is rad, thank you so much!
Is the ATEM ISO, the only option for recording individual feeds, and program?
I have been using the ATEM Mini Pro ISO for a while now, but noticed that some of the cameras are 2 or 3 frames of. Is there a way of syncing the cameras without losing the cuts already in the project?
Can you take the EDL or open the Davinci project in Adobe Premiere Pro?
great video, thanks for your time
Thanks for this! When you replace the ISO recordings with the BRAW files, does it replace the clips in the edited timeline? Also if you didn't have BM cameras, if you recorded on different cameras do you think you could switch that ISO footage out and keep everything in sync? I'm thinking i'd have to trick the metadata and put in a timecode or something
Yes it will replace the clips in the edited timeline. your other question is tricky....you might have to replace each clip manually because I don't think there is a way to extract the timecode from the HDMI....but I'll do some research on this. thanks for watching!
1SourceVideo thanks! I appreciate it. I did some testing. If you make premiere think the ISO files aren’t proxies, you can “reattach full resolution media”. This WOULD work if I could somehow edit the original GH5 files timecode. Although first you need to know what the exact start time of the clip should be by lining it up in a timeline and syncing it first anyway. At which point maybe it is faster to do it manually. But if you have a days shoot across four cameras it would be fast to just change metadata. I haven’t figured out an easy way to change the metadata on the file yet.
Superb review! (Thanks!) ⭐
*Question* : does the *Atem Mini Pro ISO* allow streaming _and_ recording the ISO to external SSD _simultaneously_ ...? ❓
Or do you have to use the USB-C output for streaming and thus cannot record to external at the same time? 🤷♂️
I realize you question is 2 year old, but the answer is yes it records and streams
Also, did you ever do a tutorial with Lumantek’s bigger switcher? Can’t remember the model name off the top of my head but it was a really nice, professional switcher. I think cost was around $3500.
We've highlighted the VS10 in a video, but we haven't done a full walkthrough on it yet. I'll keep it in mind for the future though!
1SourceVideo YES PLEASE DO. I think it has sadly gotten passed over simply bc not enough people even knew about it. It is a total professionally designed switcher. And for that price it is great deal.
Hi, is it a must to have the LAN cable on? I bought a Mini pro ISO and a SanDisk extreme SSD 1TB and when I press record nothing happens. The ISO does recognise the SSD but there is no reaction to me pressing record.
Hey man kinda in a pinch trying ti wire up our podcast room, does the USB -C out have to go to a PC to have the video feeds generate in OBS?
can you monitor the HDMI streams on the MAc computer ?
If I don't shoot in braw, can I still replace the recorded video with the video from camera?
Great video, thank you. I'm trying to record to SSD and use the ATEM software (live stream event) at the same time with a hub. I'm also using the ethernet cable connected to a modem. When I connect the USB-C cable to the MacBook, it disconnects the SSD. Any other ways around this? Currently I do my testing, make sure the audio is fine, then disconnect the ATEM software and do my record, but I would love to be able to access the switcher in case there are any audio issues. Cheers
If the MacBook is connected to the same network as the ATEM, then you should be able to access the ATEM software control without using the USB-C. With the ethernet connection, you should be able to access the software control and stream at the same time. I've never tried to use a hub with the USB-C, so I'm not sure if that should work or not. Thanks for watching!
Great video! One question, If you record in the Samsung SSD 1TB drive, do you select Hyperdeck High quality or Medium or Low if you don't stream? Or do you set the record according to the recording time you need in the SSD?
If streaming is not a concern, I will always go with the Hyperdeck high setting. This is the same quality recording you'll get in the hyperdeck studio mini. You don't save much space by using the medium or low versions. Thanks for watching!
@@1SourceVideo Great! Thank you so much!
Very helpful video. Quick question...lets say you record 3 cams (like you did) then use the atem to cut between the cams. In post, will I have the full footage of the individual cameras? Thank you
Yes, you will have full footage of your individual cameras. You'll also have the full program recording and a timeline of your program with cuts, graphics, and transitions.
@@1SourceVideo I think the footage will be compressed tho, correct? Or does it keep the original prores or braw files straight out of the camera into the Resolve project?
@@directedbytp they are MP4 files so yes they are compressed. If you record separately (in braw) on the pocket cameras, then you can replace the mp4 files in Davinci.
@@1SourceVideo do you need the ISO to be able to do that? Could you just record in camera separately with the mini pro? Or is replacing the files a function of the ISO?
@@directedbytp You can record in the camera separately with the Pro, but it won't create a davinci timeline with all of your cuts.
Wow, thanks so much for this. I’m very impressed but one question I have is: can you do ISO recording and use the HDMI out as Multiview at the same time? For a live event I would need to record up to 4 cameras as ISO, send a live stream to RUclips and view all 4 cameras on a separate HDMI or SDI monitor. Is this possible?
Yes! Output the multiview from the HDMI, stream from the ethernet port, and record your iso feeds using the USB-C port.
@@1SourceVideo Thanks so much for your reply
Great breakdown. Wondering how you are connected to the software control while recording to a seperare ssd which uses up the one usb hub available?
The ATEM Mini Pro ISO can communicate with the ATEM software control through the USB or the ethernet port.
@@1SourceVideo Ok great thank you! So if using a MacBook Pro, I'd need to get a hub that has an ethernet port and then that should work, while freeing up the usb for ssd hub?
Lastly, is it instead possible to just connect to the software control via usb tentatively to "setup" the configuration (i.e sound eq, and iso settings) have those save to the atem mini pro iso switcher, disconnect and connect the ssd and those features would apply?
Apologies if it's a silly question, completely new user. Thank you for your feedback and time!
@@tarasl.9497 Very good questions actually! If you have any others, please ask!
Yes, you can connect the ATEM mini directly to the MacBook with a Thunderbolt/ethernet adapter or connect the atem mini and the computer to the same network (locally using an ethernet switch or across your local network).
Yes, you can make adjustments to the ATEM through USB and then disconnect it. You can save your setting as your start-up default or save an xml file with specific settings to load and use later!
@@1SourceVideo Okay awesome thank you so much for the feedback! Very helpful! Subscribed :)
For the crossfades that you did during the live cut, can you change/delete those in post?
Yes you can!
Hi there,
But where is the bin for the audio files? Looks to me your project file only considered the camera input and its audio, but not the MIC input.
Where have they gone?
Those channels were not active during my demo, if they had been, they would be in the project file.
Great video!
Does the compatiblity with Davinci work with Non BMPCC cameras
Thank you 🙏
You won't be able to do any of the camera controls including triggering cameras and using the same timecode. This will be an issue in davinci if you try to replace the camera's footage with the footage recorded by the iso. Thanks for watching!
Am I able to bring these edits into premiere Pro? Or will I need to start editing in da Vinci resolve?
The project file is a davinci resolve file...but you can open it up in davinci and export an XML file. Then you can edit in premiere. I highly recommend working in davinci though! Its amazing.
So wait… there’s only one usb-c out, so what does that connect to? Is your SSD connected directly to the ATEM Mini Pro ISO or to the computer?
Can the ATEM Mini Pro ISO record in 4k UHD?
Let's say I wanted to do a Multicam edit on the fly (for example I want to cut a three person interview together and save time on editing afterwards) but not go live on any streaming platform. Is that possible? Thank you!
Yes, definitely!
I do not have the iso record all inputs. Can you please help me get that option
I had an inexpensive 4TB external laptop hard drive so I thought it probably wouldn't keep up with the ISO recordings. Turned out fine. Fairly surprised I got away with that. Mind you, I am not doing braw.
Can you let me know how to record all my videocameras to external ssd when I have to connect the same USB C port to my laptop to use the softawre control
I can't use a hub to connect both to the switcher because it doen't work with both connected to my switcher. My laptop has only USB C ports
Please let me know soon thank you.
You need a USB-C to ethernet adapter for your laptop. Then you can do a direct connection to the atem or you can connect both the laptop and switcher over a local network.
What’s the maximum record resolution??
And what’s the maximum live stream resolution ??
Súper bien
im sorry I couldn't understand but what happened at the end? with the raw files?
I replaced the MP4 files that were recorded by the ISO with the Blackmagic raw files that were recorded in the cameras.
will the ISO record from ANY HDMI cameras or just the Blackmagic PCC ?
It will record any video source you put into it!
Thx !
Was hoping to learn about the hardware and buttons but this centered on the program side 🙃
I have sony, panasonic, canon dslr's! can I still record from them to be used in bm studio using this atem?
Do you mean...can you take the files recorded on those cameras and replace them in DaVinci? I don't think you'll be able to replace them automatically because they will not have the same timecode as timeline. Currently, I don't believe there is a solution to push the timecode out of the ISO.
I mean can I record from a non blackmagic camera to the sd card on the atem and then be able to use that in davinci resolve?
@@bulcub Yes you can.
Thanks bro
@@bulcub Thanks for watching.
Thanks I have ITEM mini Pro ISO. Is it possible to use it on Skype and still be able somehow to record all 4 cameras, ?
(knowing that this ITEM doesn't work with USB-C for recording as this USB-C must be used for Skype? )
You can't do it with just the ISO, but if you purchase a Blackmagic Ultrastudio Recorder 3G, then you can output the program feed from the ISO's HDMI port and convert it to Thunderbolt 3. Pretty affordable solution.
videoproducts4less.com/blackmagic-design-ultrastudio-recorder-3g.html
@@1SourceVideo thank you very much for your response.
@@1SourceVideo is it any way to use Streaming Bridge( not yet in sale) for it?
My idea is to convert one of SDI - BNC connectors *video OUT* of Streaming Bridge or HDMI and convert it to USB and than connect it to Computer?
You technically COULD do this, but it would be an extra step. Unless you were really trying to save your HDMI output for multiview (which I would understand). The streaming bridge from the ethernet and then converting the SDI or HDMI output to USB C using an ultra studio Recorder 3G should work just fine.
According to the Blackmagic Design manual for the Atem Mini Pro Iso you ARE in fact able to stream to a platform like zoom or skype and also record all 4 cameras. The key is to make use of the Ethernet port. I'll quote page 9 of the manual under "Getting Started>Connect Your Computer".
"When recording to disk using ATEM Mini Pro, the USB connector will be busy recording to a disk so it won’t be free to use as a webcam output. However the ATEM Mini Pro model also has live streaming direct via its Ethernet connection. If you want to use the USB connection to record to a disk you can use the Ethernet connection for streaming. You can even use the Ethernet for external control using ATEM Software Control. Please refer to the ‘additional features on ATEM Mini Pro’ section for more information."
I've not tried this to verify but I've seen others in the community comment that this works for them.....fwiw
holy f%ck!!!! this is awesome. replace mp4 with the braw files is awesome.
Great. BUT..... Only one USBC port. SO cant have software going on a laptop and record to a Solid state drive at the same time. Honestly this is a MAJOR flaw
ISO is NOT ISO! Please help us as a community. The ISO recordings are only Video ISOs!! The audio is totally corrupted, as all ISO recordings have Program mixed audio tracks. What you have to do is go into the Audio ISO folder to find the, let's say CAM 3 audio. The problem is is that there is no easy way to re-sync the ISO audio with the ISO video clip because as the audio track on the ISO video recording does not have the same waveform to referent to, because it is corrupted as a program audio mix. What's up with that? and can you tell us all how to fix this terrible oversight by Black Magic?
I've been searching for this.Any luck on a solution or workaround?
Good information. But. The background music on this video is distracting and annoying.
This guy kinda sounds like Mark Ruffalo
Can you choose a directory on your computer for recording ISO?