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  • @AnthonyRay
    @AnthonyRay  5 месяцев назад

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  • @ingobordewick6480
    @ingobordewick6480 5 месяцев назад +59

    This song alone will be worth their entering into the Rock 'n' Roll hall of fame one day. It's a true masterpiece of 4 geniuses at their craft.

    • @mookiestewart3776
      @mookiestewart3776 5 месяцев назад

      It’s one of those “perfect” songs . There’s a few across different genres and this is one of them

  • @djmir4
    @djmir4 5 месяцев назад +26

    The irony of you sitting there counting syllables right as maynard is singing "over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind." Is a little funny 😂

    • @Erichop108
      @Erichop108 4 месяца назад

      Chat overloaded him information. Should have just chilled and let him enjoy

  • @sean_b_drummer
    @sean_b_drummer 5 месяцев назад +8

    The time signatures of the measures: 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 don't feel clunky because they add up to 24/8, which is divisible by 4. So underneath it all, it can be broken down to a 4/8 feel. 👍🏽🌀

  • @sjashi
    @sjashi 5 месяцев назад +30

    Hahaha I love how "Overthinking overanalyzing seperates the body from the mind" cought you in moment when you were doing that exactly. Once you "brake the code" of numbers, sintax and semantics of this song you will be sucked in spiral and enjoy the sway. Every time you listen to it gets better, trust me.

    • @Enochulator
      @Enochulator 5 месяцев назад

      🙄

    • @grawlix-man463
      @grawlix-man463 4 месяца назад

      ​@@EnochulatorBro hates math

    • @Enochulator
      @Enochulator 4 месяца назад

      @@grawlix-man463 yeah, that's it :)

    • @grawlix-man463
      @grawlix-man463 4 месяца назад

      @@Enochulator I mean I assume anyone who uses digital emojis just to tell someone they think what they're saying is dumb probably doesn't understand math lol

    • @Enochulator
      @Enochulator 4 месяца назад

      @@grawlix-man463 you can make all the assumptions you like. i heard somewhere that a picture is worth a thousand words

  • @jams_world81
    @jams_world81 5 месяцев назад +12

    What makes it more amazing is that the band does the music before Maynard writes the lyrics. Maynard always comes through with connecting emotions with the music and concepts

  • @TheErikBallew
    @TheErikBallew 5 месяцев назад +13

    The real message is not to overthink. Grab on to what bewilders you and KEEP GOING!

    • @edwardmunoz7853
      @edwardmunoz7853 5 месяцев назад

      Well said my friend,well said 👊

  • @nightcrawler5696
    @nightcrawler5696 5 месяцев назад +8

    I don't think I can hear this song without closing my eyes. Most songs you want to sing along, but this one makes me want to play along with them on percussion. Such a mind expanding masterpiece.

  • @douglasgawitt8818
    @douglasgawitt8818 5 месяцев назад +12

    Tool is touring. It’s worth going.

    • @bbailey7740
      @bbailey7740 5 месяцев назад +2

      Just got home from seeing them. Life transforming.

  • @Viccerz
    @Viccerz 5 месяцев назад +8

    This is one of the best songs ever made. Full stop.

  • @xchakeix
    @xchakeix 5 месяцев назад +4

    This album top to bottom is one of the best rock albums ever written. This song in particular is one of my favorites of all time. I'm sad they stopped playing it live, it was amazing to experience.

  • @user-qn3lv5jr8x
    @user-qn3lv5jr8x 5 месяцев назад +7

    Another Ren fan here that loves Tool. They are amazing. Enjoy the ride.

  • @Tbanyas1
    @Tbanyas1 5 месяцев назад +6

    My opinion, one of the best songs ever written in any genre, of all time!!!!
    They were simply amazing Friday night at hard rock 🤘🏼🤘🏼. I literally almost teared up a couple of times because it was so satisfying to my soul. 🌀🌀🌀 enjoy the ride my man #TOOLArmy

    • @bbailey7740
      @bbailey7740 5 месяцев назад

      Just got home from seeing them and it is an emotional ride!

  • @mendronesg
    @mendronesg 5 месяцев назад +4

    The guitar switches up before the chorus hits, but if you focus on the hihat, you'll find the tempo, and from that point on you won't miss another beat.
    The tempo of this song specifically is timed on Danny's hihat.

  • @douglasdrain
    @douglasdrain 5 месяцев назад +3

    The lyrics also follow the Fibonacci sequence in which the syllables are counted as the sequence itself !!!

  • @garrettmarshall1288
    @garrettmarshall1288 5 месяцев назад +9

    the Fibonacci sequence is represented in nature by the golden ratio. (Nautilus shells, the spiral of our galaxy, the proportions of your face,etc) it’s a spiral.
    At the last section of the song did you hear the bass mimicking a spiral when it was making that warbling sound, AS Maynard was literally saying SPIRAL OUT? It’s why your head started bobbing in a spiral pattern. I love it! Spiral Out! 🌀

    • @j.t.3798
      @j.t.3798 5 месяцев назад

      There is a difference between the golden ratio and Fibonacci. Their both interesting but not the same.

    • @erinraecowin
      @erinraecowin 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@j.t.3798the golden ratio is derived from the Fibonacci sequence

  • @scottmayo7545
    @scottmayo7545 5 месяцев назад +5

    That's my favorite, most inspirational song.

  • @dogfish2859
    @dogfish2859 5 месяцев назад +10

    Amazing, after watching you fall in love with Ren, it's great to see you fall in love with one of my other favourites!

  • @MrBriansween
    @MrBriansween 5 месяцев назад +3

    Lots of cool stuff here. Yes you read right about moving in the versions of 8 with instruments, and maynards voice instrument also ascends and descends fib with his syllable counts. And the outro and overall message of riding the spirals out farther and farther pull from the finonacci when drawn out into the golden spiral (sea shells to galaxies). Cool on so many levels!

  • @MrBurnout22
    @MrBurnout22 5 месяцев назад +3

    Im so pissed I missed this one on the live stream! Theres a perfect couple min video that does a quick overview of the complexity of this song, which is perfect to watch right after your first listen because it will make the light bulb go off and ohhhh wow i see now damn this is crazy! And Anthony literally in deep thought analyzing the time signature as Maynard is singing over thinking over analying separates the body from the mind..which i took as Manyard trolling all of us, right ? cus here we are trying to figure out the math of the song yet we havent even stopped to sit back and enjoy the actual song! lol I wouldnt put it past Maynard to troll us all like that. Hes saying guys its not that serious your missing the opportunity to just vibe along with the song lol So good!

  • @TheKlamad
    @TheKlamad 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love it, lyrics be like overthinking, overanalyzing separates the body from the mind. Anthony be like... analyzing, overthinking

    • @maynarddrivesfast804
      @maynarddrivesfast804 5 месяцев назад +1

      Maynard has said that was the whole intention behind the lyrics: don't overthink it or you lose yourself in the minutiae. The Tool army tends to be very pretentious in this regard, and he has been quoted as saying that they often get on his nerves because of that fact. I say this as a 25 year long Tool fan who also plays in progressive metal bands myself.

  • @jams_world81
    @jams_world81 5 месяцев назад +4

    Watching other people discover Tool is my favorite new thing!! Haha 😂

  • @jimbojones8978
    @jimbojones8978 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hearing you learning about the song ahead of time before you go into it. I think you're gonna love it, but as far as Tool messing around with Time signatures, THIS is the song that is purposefully genius. Most of their other songs that switch up the time signatures is less manipulated, but still just as amazing.

  • @Ninjabob568
    @Ninjabob568 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ah this song gets me literally every single time. I'm happy you appreciated it. My son heard this and said "I feel like Im going somewhere.'"

  • @Anonymous-wd2yg
    @Anonymous-wd2yg 5 месяцев назад +1

    1: Black
    1: Then
    2: White are
    3: All I see
    5: In my infancy
    8: Red and yellow then came to be
    Repeated 5 (Reaching out to me), then 3 (let's me see),
    as the Fibonacci pattern cascades downward (reverse).
    13: As below so above and beyond I imagine
    8: Drawn beyond the lines of reason
    5: Push the envelope
    3: Watch it bend
    👍🏼🔥🌀🤘🏼
    They also do 3 different time signatures 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 in sequential bars then repeat. 987 is also a number in the Fib sequence

  • @Emilie-one
    @Emilie-one 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love that he not only uses the Fibonacci sequence for the music, but also the syllables in the lyrics .

  • @kevenbridges9433
    @kevenbridges9433 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not only do the lyrics follow the sequence. Also the time changes , The drums and the style changes in the song all follow the sequence in some way.The title track, "Lateralus", incorporates the Fibonacci sequence.[29] The theme of the song describes the desire of humans to explore and to expand for more knowledge and a deeper understanding of everything. The lyrics "spiral out" refer to this desire and also to the Fibonacci spiral, which is formed by creating and arranging squares for each number in the sequence's 1,1,2,3,5,8,... pattern, and drawing a curve that connects to two corners of each square. This would, allowed to continue onwards, theoretically create a never-ending and infinitely expanding spiral. Related to this, the song's main theme features successive time signatures 9/8, 8/8, and 7/8.[30] The number 987 is the sixteenth integer of the Fibonacci sequence.

  • @northwestalternativemedia2125
    @northwestalternativemedia2125 5 месяцев назад +2

    "I'm not ready for this" had me laugh 😆 I don't think I was ready for the lifelong journey this song has taken me either

  • @michaeldinsen7641
    @michaeldinsen7641 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you have not seen a live show from Tool put it on a bucket list. Greatest live band in History

  • @hailzmoon4659
    @hailzmoon4659 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tool are the most incredible band hands down!

  • @abelinkinxvi1735
    @abelinkinxvi1735 5 месяцев назад +2

    Their original title was 987. Brilliant no matter the title.

  • @MBP208
    @MBP208 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s so hard to not label this the greatest Tool song ever

  • @cultivatinggrace
    @cultivatinggrace 5 месяцев назад

    As a 20-year Tool fan, and a long time fan of yours-this is my favorite reaction of yours ever!

  • @scottybeats5328
    @scottybeats5328 5 месяцев назад +1

    not only are the syllables scaling the sequence, but he repeats the first verse for the second verse as well, indicating 1 and 1, before starting the actual 2nd verse. shit is nuts.

  • @buckeyechad1
    @buckeyechad1 5 месяцев назад

    I went skydiving because of this song. It inspired me to finally do for 50th BDay. Wore my Lateralus shirt& jeans. No skydiving suit. 1 of the best things I ever did. Pushed the envelope, wasn’t afraid at all. 1st out of plane. What was the worst, die happy.

  • @KWC33
    @KWC33 16 дней назад

    I really want musicians to react to this song without being told the Fibonacci sequence beforehand to watch them at first confused, bewildered, amused, and then possibly the lightbulb goes on, realizing the mathematical connection to the song

  • @ted1976hailspiralout
    @ted1976hailspiralout 5 месяцев назад

    Might be one of the greatest songs ever written! Even after listening to this song over a hundred times, you still learn and/or hear something new. It’s mind blowing 🤘🏻🌀

  • @chrisstabile3243
    @chrisstabile3243 5 месяцев назад +4

    I wish Tool fans would stop telling reactors about all the fibonacci stuff prior to listening - it mostly just distracts the shit out of them, which is kinda hilarious in and of itself, but still

  • @Objective_Piece8285
    @Objective_Piece8285 Месяц назад

    "This is genius who thinks of this stuff?"
    Maynard: yeah that Fibonaci sequence thing was completley on accident

  • @DarkHellDog
    @DarkHellDog 5 месяцев назад +1

    You don't need to think or analyze when you listen Tool. Just connect and enjoy the moment when the song opens up your third eye.
    Spiral Out! 🌀

  • @graymain
    @graymain 5 месяцев назад

    Tool coming to the O2 arena in London on June 3rd got tickets gonna love it. went to the same venue last year was so high up i nearly got vertigo. This time lower down :P

  • @Fuerwahrhalunke
    @Fuerwahrhalunke 4 месяца назад

    This song making everyone listening to it with the background information feel like a little detective lmao! "Hold on, let me investigate!"

  • @streetracer11000
    @streetracer11000 5 месяцев назад

    Dude man! Been following you for a minute! Dope as hell you went through NF journey and started Tool. I would definitely recommend "wings for marie" and "10,000 days" ten thousand days follows wings for marie

  • @bruun1974
    @bruun1974 5 месяцев назад

    The syllable sequencing
    1 Black
    1 Then
    2 White are
    3 All I see
    5 In my infancy
    8 Red and yellow then came to be
    5 Reaching out to me
    3 Lets me see
    13 As below so above and beyond I imagine
    8 Drawn beyond the lines of reason
    5 Push the envelope
    3 Watch it bend

  • @caliban007
    @caliban007 5 месяцев назад +2

    Would love to see your reaction to H. From TOOL, that one always seems forgotten.

  • @EarthyBlendPOV
    @EarthyBlendPOV 5 месяцев назад +1

    One of my fave songs ever. Thanks for the entertainment!

  • @carlakane3313
    @carlakane3313 5 месяцев назад +1

    1 Black
    1 then
    2 white are
    3 all I see
    5 in my infancy
    8 red and yellow then came to be
    13 lets me see. As below, so above, I imagine

  • @erinraecowin
    @erinraecowin 5 месяцев назад +1

    And thats why i got my spiral tattoo

  • @vamprosmortimer5133
    @vamprosmortimer5133 5 месяцев назад

    Where is one that will blow your mind... The colours named are deliberate.
    It was first noted by a guy called William Gladstone, who noted while reading Homer's Odyssey that the colour Blue is never named once. He tallied up all the colours named and the number of times they are used and the top 4 colours were black, white, red and yellow in that order.
    Then some bright spark took that idea and expanded it to pretty much every culture of that time period and the same thing, with those 4 colours being the top 4 colours named.
    So it's a multi layered message with this song with it being said that those 4 colours are from the infancy of humanity, and it's believed to be the order of colour we see after birth.

  • @DJMAERZ
    @DJMAERZ 5 месяцев назад

    First run through dont worry about the specifics, just simply take it all in and enjoy something you will never be able to experience again.

  • @jeremiahzambrotta5580
    @jeremiahzambrotta5580 5 месяцев назад

    @anthonyrayreacts
    Also the lyrics. His syllables follow the pattern also!!
    1
    2
    3
    5
    8
    Bonkers. Then he goes badckwards from 8 to 1 at points with the words.
    Insane...

  • @KatSnow11
    @KatSnow11 5 месяцев назад

    Love this song!

  • @debrastuart4357
    @debrastuart4357 5 месяцев назад +3

    you be hooked ;)) happy daze x

  • @chriswebb7822
    @chriswebb7822 5 месяцев назад

    Tool's magnum opus shrouded in distraction...Wait till you hear it with your eyes closed and without distraction of any type, then you'll 'get it', Tool's music basically demands it.

  • @heyskipj
    @heyskipj 5 месяцев назад

    Loved this song so much more before I heard it was written to Fibonacci.

  • @Ninjabob568
    @Ninjabob568 5 месяцев назад +2

    Side note,
    Polyphia - ego death 😉

  • @dan.j.boydzkreationz
    @dan.j.boydzkreationz 5 месяцев назад

    The guy's name was Bonacci, and he used the Phi ratio to achieve his spiral.
    Phi in Italian is Fi, therefore Fi-Bonacci

  • @gamerforever4837
    @gamerforever4837 4 месяца назад

    It's the words, that are in the fibonacci sequence...

  • @IamGrootOG
    @IamGrootOG 5 месяцев назад

    My favorite Tool song!

  • @hyplerai
    @hyplerai 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bro I never clicked so fast. Parabol/Parabola has to be next. I’m excited for you. You’re welcome.

    • @hyplerai
      @hyplerai 5 месяцев назад

      Make sure to play them consecutive since they are one long song.

  • @patriciamilholand3585
    @patriciamilholand3585 5 месяцев назад +1

    You should listen to Brass Against cover of this! It's awesome!

  • @inspectorquaalude714
    @inspectorquaalude714 5 месяцев назад

    He only goes up to to 13 syllables in the sequence and the band goes thru 5 time signatures in the song lol😂🥳

  • @alshurdom6917
    @alshurdom6917 5 месяцев назад

    Don't get bogged down in the fibonacci stuff this early on...enjoy the music. That's the gift that Tool gives us. Every time you listen to them you hear something new.

  • @bbailey7740
    @bbailey7740 5 месяцев назад

    Just saw tool tonight. Go if you can. One of the best musical experiences EVER.

  • @susiejo143
    @susiejo143 5 месяцев назад

    Ohhhh yes!!! Please please Parabol/Parabola TOGETHER ❤️ it's my musical therapy!! NO other band like Tool nor will there ever be,....fn legends❤!!!!

  • @xXMr.WiGGleZzXx
    @xXMr.WiGGleZzXx 5 месяцев назад

    Hope you got to listen to it again after. This is one of their best songs lyrically as well.
    If you haven’t yet check out Cullin Boices by them

  • @edwardmunoz7853
    @edwardmunoz7853 5 месяцев назад

    Maynard said it was just a coincidence with the Fibby sequence

  • @RoloDacat
    @RoloDacat 5 месяцев назад

    now youre ready for Parabol/Parabola!!!!

  • @douglasdrain
    @douglasdrain 5 месяцев назад

    You NEED to look up “ How TOOL used math to create LATERALUS “. This video will give you a greater insight into how deep this song goes. LOOK IT UP !!!

  • @user-ll5si8uh4r
    @user-ll5si8uh4r 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lost keys 1st then Rosetta Stoned 2nd! It'll blow ur fucking mind

  • @AirwavesEnglish
    @AirwavesEnglish 5 месяцев назад

    Careful bro, if this keeps up any longer you're gonna turn into one of us full-blown Metalheads.🤘😎🤟

    • @AnthonyRay
      @AnthonyRay  5 месяцев назад

      And I will gladly do so, my friend

  • @christinebrown4777
    @christinebrown4777 5 месяцев назад +2

    I just saw them live on Friday and it was the most amazing show I have ever seen. If you get the chance do skip a concert.

  • @Yvonne-rb6mb
    @Yvonne-rb6mb 5 месяцев назад

    Most classical music uses the fibonacci sequence. Mozart as an example. The members of Tool like to mess with their fans. Tell you not to overthink then they make you do just that. I'm a huge fan of Tool but I can appreciate the humor.

  • @user-ll5si8uh4r
    @user-ll5si8uh4r 5 месяцев назад

    It's not the time signatures it's the syllables in the beginning

  • @kali9850
    @kali9850 5 месяцев назад

    Also, Knox Hill ised the Fibonacci sequence in one of his somgs, but differently. I don't remember which one.

  • @MrOmfgtacos
    @MrOmfgtacos 5 месяцев назад

  • @daveboutilier-wx1et
    @daveboutilier-wx1et 4 месяца назад

    And now you know why some describe prog rock/metal is for “those who like math homework”

  • @tonysweeney2075
    @tonysweeney2075 5 месяцев назад

    Check out Knox..He disects it brilliantly..

  • @kevinb-rad20
    @kevinb-rad20 5 месяцев назад

    You gotta do Right in Two soon! Spiral out brother 🌀

  • @scottybeats5328
    @scottybeats5328 5 месяцев назад

    the disrespectful when your chat is asking you to listen to lesser music while listening to one of the best bands of all time on one of their most iconic tracks. :P

  • @dulogmaz
    @dulogmaz 5 месяцев назад

    1 black
    1 then
    2 white are
    3 all i see
    5 in my infancy
    8 red and yellow then came to be
    5 reaching out to me
    3 lets me see

  • @mflambert
    @mflambert 5 месяцев назад

    Black / Then / White are / All I see / In my infancy / Red and yellow then came to be / :)

  • @aweejobby788
    @aweejobby788 5 месяцев назад

    love your vids AR,Tool is an amazing band,gotta not go into deep shit like drum patterns and the fibonacci sequence on your first listen though it just distracts from just listening to this amazing song,that shit can come later.

  • @alexfrank6534
    @alexfrank6534 5 месяцев назад

    Watching dude over think and over analyze…while missing the song….this is what the song warns against!!!
    Classic TOOL humor

  • @aweejobby788
    @aweejobby788 5 месяцев назад +3

    why is there so many Ren fans that are also big Tool fans?im one of them too,just curious. 2 very different styles but they seem to be very similar in a strange way.

    • @AnthonyRay
      @AnthonyRay  5 месяцев назад +3

      Good question, I've noticed it too. Might be because Ren is very rhythmic and has meticulous lyricism. His songs are also on the longer side, which would be appreciated by Tool fans I'd assume.

    • @JasonTurner-uk9rk
      @JasonTurner-uk9rk 5 месяцев назад +1

      For me it’s because of lyricism and musicianship. The both use so many double and triple entendres. I think they are both thinking peoples music.

    • @Spaztiq
      @Spaztiq 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@AnthonyRay You nailed it. Genius levels of depth and detail are shared between them. I appreciate the incredible amount of effort they put into their art. I've honestly not been able to hear music the same way since I discovered Tool in the early-mid 90's; they made me a "bit" of a music-snob by showing me what is truly possible if you care passionately about what you're creating. I despise easy/cheap pop music that fit formulas purely for $$$, it's "icky" - LOL. I like your vibes, sub'd!

  • @thomastaylor9579
    @thomastaylor9579 5 месяцев назад

    Maynard can count to 10 and make it sound amazing !!!!!

  • @alshurdom6917
    @alshurdom6917 5 месяцев назад

    Firstly, I'm subscribing because you may be Borat/Sacha Baron Cohen. Secondly, yes, Maynard's lyrics goes to Fibonacci to 13 and back down.

  • @xXMr.WiGGleZzXx
    @xXMr.WiGGleZzXx 5 месяцев назад

    Welcome to the spiral 🌀

  • @markwillis675
    @markwillis675 5 месяцев назад

    There's a video that has all of this in it. Makes it easier to follow. 🌀☝️🇺🇲🤘

    • @markwillis675
      @markwillis675 5 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/uOHkeH2VaE0/видео.htmlsi=HSPLjbCp_cg3AMhP

  • @user-wv9co1oq6p
    @user-wv9co1oq6p 5 месяцев назад

    You should listen to sleep token. I recommend The summoning or Ascensionism .

    • @bbailey7740
      @bbailey7740 5 месяцев назад

      Good band, but they’re not tool.

  • @jamesshelldubstep
    @jamesshelldubstep 5 месяцев назад

    You need to watch the video!! 😂

  • @Irmelinis
    @Irmelinis 5 месяцев назад +1

    Watch Knox Hill's reaction to this song, he counts and analyzes everything, really interesting!!

    • @AnthonyRay
      @AnthonyRay  5 месяцев назад

      Maybe when I have time. I don't watch other reactions.

  • @andalucianm00n
    @andalucianm00n 5 месяцев назад

    Over thinking... over analyzing separate the body from the mind... let that sink in without counting it on your fingers😜
    Spiral out

  • @b_nes6093
    @b_nes6093 5 месяцев назад

    Lolol. I don't think I've seen AR this baffled before. Good stuff. Keep it up bro. U will get it. Love ur reactions 💯🔥💪🤘✌️🫶 fyi watch Knox reaction I think it will help ya 👍

  • @northof4912
    @northof4912 5 месяцев назад

    The time sequence is not the Fibonacci sequence, it’s the syllables in the lyrics. And all music is mathematical.
    OK - I wrote this before you mentioned it….

  • @flexygoo1295
    @flexygoo1295 3 месяца назад

    Spiral out

  • @user-ll5si8uh4r
    @user-ll5si8uh4r 5 месяцев назад

    Sorry didn't make it that far before I posted

  • @shiznitshnitzel4
    @shiznitshnitzel4 5 месяцев назад

    Black=1, Then=1 (1+0=1), White Are=2 (1+1=2), All I See=3 (2+1=3), In My Infancy=5 (3+2=5) .... so on and so forth. The guy on your chat explained it wrong.

  • @thomastaylor9579
    @thomastaylor9579 5 месяцев назад

    .........tool army est.1993............tool army est.1993.............tool army est.1993................tool army est.1993..........

  • @ryderjohnson1293
    @ryderjohnson1293 Месяц назад

    Will never get tired of people trying to disect rhyme or reason from Tool. Ive been at it for 30 years lol.