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RTX 4070 Super | Rendering Benchmarks in Blender!
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- RTX 4070 Super vs RTX 4070 Rendering Speed Comparison
We test the new 4070 Super and compare to my other GPU benchmark results. Thanks for tuning in, and let me know what other tests you would like to see!
Test Bench Specs:
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite Motherboard
AMD R9 5950X 16 Core CPU
64 GB DDR4 3600 Cl14 RAM
Windows 10 Pro installed on Samsung 870 EVO SSD
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:27 Test Bench
0:47 RTX 4070 Super Classroom Test
1:20 RTX 4070 Super Barbershop Test
2:22 RTX 4070 Super Lone Monk Test
3:10 RTX 4070 Super Scanlands Test
3:30 RTX 4070 Super vs RTX 4070 Rendering Results!
4070 Super - Very respectable benchmarks numbers for the price point. Particularly considering the wattage consumption. Your test bench gives a good reference for the creative audience. Thanks for the content.
It is a decent GPU at reasonable price and physical size. Thanks for watching!
@@ContradictionDesignsir please benchmark rx 7900xtx and rtx cards if possible
@@utkarsh9769 I have a friend who has provided some 7900 XTX benchmarks. I will share them again in a post or video soon.
WE LOOK @ YOU and HAVE TIME too SEE and LEARN ... soo NO STRESS , please... Take your time, IF a long video we can see , this is why we are here... ;)
The balance between too long and too short is very hard to get right haha. But I appreciate you saying this!
Finally
Tq for benchmark 🎉
There were so many shipping delays! You are welcome! I appreciate you watching
thank you for video! looks like 4070s is what i was looking for, a dual budget gpu with good performance/price ratio.
The 4070 super is quick and fits the same profile as the 4070, so it will fit most PCs
@@ContradictionDesign im running right now 1650super 😄 cant wait to change in to 4070s
Oh that will be a huge improvement!
Excited for the NV-Link video! Also, super looks good!
I am working on a scene to use for the NV-link video currently. It is really hard to work with such large files haha. But I am actually going to use the scene for a noise comparison video too! The 4070 Super looks pretty good already. Especially for $600 USD
@@ContradictionDesign sweet!
Hi, Thanks for your efforts. Seeing real numbers is very valuable. One thing, 4070 appears twice in your spreadsheet and the numbers are different. For instance, for the scene Classroom you've got two numbers in rows 7 and 9 and there is a ~20% difference between them.
Yes! the slower results are measured from an old Dell PC while the faster ones are from a modern PC with better specs. This newer one allows the GPU much more bandwidth, so it produces better rendering results.
@@ContradictionDesign Thanks for explanation
@@proteusnexus1428 You are welcome!
@@ContradictionDesignhi. Can you please share the specs of both the old CPU and new CPU configurations. I intend to pair intel Xeon E with a 4070 I want to see how it compares with newer CPUs
@@MercuriMedici oh yeah sure.
Old system: Dell t3600 workstation with xeon e5-2690, 8 core CPU. 64 GB of ddr3 1600 RAM. Runs on a SATA SSD.
New test system: r9 5950x 16 core CPU. 64 GB of ddr4 3600 mhz RAM. Runs on SATA SSD as well.
The biggest change is that some of these dell workstations revert to pcie2.0x16 when they should run in gen 3. The 5950x system runs a full pcie4.0x16 lane, so much higher potential slot bandwidth
Do you have any way to get the performance of the RTX 4070 Ti Super? It would also be interesting to see if the change from ddr4 to ddr5 affects it? Greetings, I love your content.
I would like to get a 7900 GRE and a 4070 ti super sometime soon. But I am not sure when that will happen.
Also, that is a fun question about the RAM. The problem is that very few systems can run both ddr4 and ddr5, and I do not own any of them. I can guarantee you that any new GPU will get better results on the 7950x CPU with DDR5 6000 than on my 5950x with DDR4 3600. It mostly depends on the work load and how the RAM is used. But It would be interesting to test slower RAM vs fast RAM within DDR5, and keep the system the same otherwise.
And thank you for the comment! I appreciate you being here!
What are your thoughts about the 4070 ti? Deciding if i should go between the 4070 super or just go for the 4070 ti due to the 16 gb Vram. The price differences are huge,🥲 was wondering if it's worth it.
Well the 4070 Ti only has 12 GB, so for 16 you need the 4070 Ti Super. The 4070 Ti Super will be nearly as fast as a 4080. I think that would be a fantastic GPU for any use. If you want to go with 12 GB VRAM, the 4070 Super will match a 4070 Ti. So it really depends on the VRAM you need.
If you had to choose between the rtx 3090 and the rtx 4070 Super which one is the better card for 3d modeling?
The 4070 has only 12 GB
And the 3090 has 24 GB
Does it make a big difference when it comes to rendering?
The 3090 is slightly faster, but obviously more VRAM and much more power draw and larger size. Honestly the VRAM decision comes down to your scenes. If you want to worry less, just get a 3090. If you want to make realistic scenes with many objects, the VRAM is key. If you want to do lower complexity Eevee scenes, you won't need the VRAM as much.
Do you use optix for denoising? And do you have tested running optix and cuda checked both in the settings?does it make any sense in some render situations?
I use Optix denoiser and Optix Render API. If you render with Cuda API, Optix denoise should still work with a compatible NVIDIA GPU.
I had a school project that I had to render in Maya, I had to borrow a family members computer which had a 3060TI. Exported at 1080p in Arnold renderer and after tweaking some settings got around 30-35 seconds a frame. Really wonder how much better a newer card would have done
Interesting project. Were you in school for 3D work? I did not have any formal learning in 3d, so it is always interesting to hear how people's experiences were in school.
Well the newer GPUs are of course faster. But at the same time, 30 seconds per frame is probably fast enough if you do not have to run renders all the time. The speed difference is not important until the hardware is the bottleneck. For me normally, I am still the bottleneck haha.
@@ContradictionDesign Yeah! Intro to 3D design class, final project was a 1 minute ish, 5000-6000 frame animation. Had to find our own assets or scratch build. I was so not prepared for the export render times being around 5-6 hours for 400-500 frames.
With my laptop it ended up being almost 4-5 minutes per frame, it was insane.
@@Revan- Yeah it takes a lot of hardware and electricity to render a full animation for sure.
I have a friend from YT who had a similar issue, where he was out of time to run his final render. So he rendered low resolution frames and then plugged them into an AI upscaler software to get them looking better. Cut his render time and looked OK according to him.
Please upload video about animation and it physics in blender
I will do some fluid simulations and animations for sure. I can add a rigid body physics tutorial too!
@@ContradictionDesign thank you sir ❤️❤️❤️
@@movie_review_hindi You are welcome! Are there any specific topics you want to learn about?
@@ContradictionDesign yes better lighting and more realistic colouring, actually you explain very well can I have your contact number 😊😊😊
Haha I can work on that video! All contact shall remain on RUclips for now haha. But I may actually start up my Discord server eventually
Hey bro!. finally, i got my new pc. its been a couple weeks since its build. and i am quite happy for it. havent try anything with editing. just some easy stuff. not to fast but not that slow. this will do for me now, and thanks for the consultation and everything. your opinion is really straightforward and clear.
i got the
rx 6600 with ryzen 5 7500f and 16 gigs of ram.
will you acctually made the tutorial for blender stuff? like from basic... but i'm interested more on vfx and cgi stuff.. moddelling? not so much.. but i know i had to learn that too. so.. i would appreciate it if u made one.
and again. Thanks!
Hey I am glad you got the PC! It will be great! I have wanted to learn some vfx, but I don't know it yet. I think eventually I will be able to do it. I hope to have more time someday to learn
For 3D Rendering, do you recommend me buying the 3090 24gb or the 4070 Super 12gb? They are both at the same price
Well the 4070 super is much more efficient, so if the VRAM is enough then I would go for it. The 24 GB is necessary for me personally though
@@ContradictionDesign Thank you for the quick reply! Also, for what reason would one need 24gb vram (+12gb over 4070s)? I thought 10gb was enough for rendering.
@@Feoryc Higher density scenes, high res textures, etc. the more stuff you have in the scene, the harder it is to render and the bigger the VRAM requirements are. For instance, my characters use about 10 GB each, without even having a scene. Mostly due to hair strands
Do you think 4070 ti super would be worth to get over the 4070 super? ive been almost sure about getting the 4070 super, but latetly Ive been checking out if getting the 4070 ti super its worth to get eventhough it cost around 200$ more for me.
Hey! I did just test a 4070 ti super on the channel here! The ti super is a bit faster. I think the speed difference is close to the price difference, so it comes down to budget and VRAM needs. They are both really good GPUs tho for 3d
@@ContradictionDesign Just saw the video, do you think 4gb more of VRAM are a real game changer tho? Being honest rn im starting to do 3d renders, video editing and more. Im using my laptop rn and this would be my first build, from what ive seen the VRAM always comes up when talking about games (which even if i do play some, the most demanding game i probably will play would be overwatch) but i dont want to build the pc for games but rather what i said above and the result dont seem to differ that much from the 4070 super. Or what do you think? is it really worth the extra 200?
@@jokerfever2590 Realistically, they are both very good value for productivity tasks. I think if you get the 4070 super you will love it and never worry about it until you upgrade in a few years.
I would say until you know you need more VRAM for sure, the 12 GB is plenty. For 4K res and above, 16 GB is going to be the standard sooner or later for games. 12 is basically enough right now, and that is at max settings. So with some tuning you can stay below 12 GB in games pretty easily.
If you are starting out with Blender, you should try learning to optimize geometry and settings to make your scene efficient, and then some day later you could upgrade the GPU if you still need more VRAM. But you would be shocked at how little VRAM you can get away with, as long as you know how to optimize.
For instance, don't automatically grab 8K textures for everything, try to use 1k or 2k for most objects, and only use higher texture resolutions for things that are really close, or really important to the camera.
@@ContradictionDesign Hey, sorry to bother you again. But i was debating if i downgrade my cpu from an i7 13700k to a i7 12700k, i could go with the 4070 ti super, do you think this would be a fair trade-off? or is it just better to stick with the 13th gen i7 and 4070 super?
@@jokerfever2590 no problem at all! I think that would be a good move to make. The CPU will not slow you down in most Blender work nowadays. If you do lots of simulation then the CPU would matter more, but 12 to 13 gen is probably not a huge difference in Blender. So I think getting the lower CPU and 4070 ti super would be a good move!
Do you ever plan to transfer that spreadsheet to google docs so everyone can view it live?
I can do that! My friend @edgartheface has worked on a Google form that people could use to submit test results too!
@@ContradictionDesign awesome! Thank you so much
@@milkywayish9315 you are welcome!
@@ContradictionDesign Yo, I am curious if it has it been done or nah?
I got like 800USD to spend, was considering 4070 super, is there anything better in this amount of money?
Depending on where you are, 800USD could get you the 4070 ti super. That GPU is fantastic, and still has somewhat reasonable power draw. Otherwise, The 4070 Super has been on sale in the US lately for about $590. The 4070 super is also a fantastic GPU. From everything I do with GPUs, the 4070 series gpus are very efficient and incredibly fast for their price. So either of these options would be great.
Are you using this GPU for rendering?
Yes, this 4070super got many cores from what i see. They are more expensive here in Poland.
@@szaka9395 I see. I think the 4070 Super sounds like a good option for you then!
I tried these runs on my Asus Dual OC 4070 Super. Classroom 11.01 seconds. Barbershop 52.50 seconds. Lone Mark 2:17.96 seconds. Scanlands 31.75 seconds. Power usage by GPU was around 180W on all tests.
Awesome thanks! Its good to have other tests to compare to
Thank you for doing the tests and creating the video. It's great to validate the cards you've tested.
I'm impressed with the performance to power usage of the 4070 Super and how the Dual runs fairly quiet when stressed.
@@schifoso you're welcome! The 4070 and 4070 super seem to be the best GPUs in value right now for Blender at least. Power draw at 200 watts seems small these days haha
Witch one is better for 3ds max rendering 3090 or 4070 super
3090 is nice because of the VRAM but it uses 50% more power for about the same speed as the 4070. So depends on VRAM needs really
What was the render sample setting for the Classroom scene render?
The classroom ran with 300 samples
148 Seconds = 2.47 Minutes = 2 Minute and 28 Seconds ; Lone Monk Scene - RTX 4090 97 Seconds = 1.62 Minutes = 1 Minute and 37 Seconds -
IF you can wait 1 Minute you save 1000 USD.
Yes for one frame that is true. But imagine rendering 10 minutes of animation at 24 fps. That is 14,400 frames x 1 minute, which is 240 hours (14,400 minutes) of difference. So for studios or people who produce animations frequently, the speed boost is very valuable. Plus, believe it or not, but he 4090 is the most efficient power per frame. So you would save on power over time too, which is not a problem for some people, but a huge problem for others.
But I do understand what you mean. The other thing is, most people can run renders over night, and get by fine with a cheaper GPU to save money.
But this data is here to help people decide what matters to them. Hopefully it is useful!
@@ContradictionDesign IF say so I understand you - so do (I) we need the RTX A 6000 or the TITAN ???? something, Prizing @ 10 k - 25 K , - I would love to buy this GPU - but I only wait for my LOTTO # to Kick in so I can buy what I want ... is not easy today to be a normal low-pay worker whit monthly sh**T salary, ... so I wait and let you know IF I win the LOTTO ... /// THX ... /// McRoman ;)
@@mcroman-superfeat Oh no most people should not buy the high end GPUs. They are ridiculous expensive. My car cost less than an Rtx 6000 ada haha. The pro GPUs are similar to the gaming ones, except all cores unlocked, and more, but slower VRAM. So they are very close in performance to their gaming piers, across the same chip. So 4090 is very close performance to Rtx 6000 Ada, except where twice the VRAM is limiting factor
@@ContradictionDesign THX 4 your reply back ... /// McRoman ... ;)
is this same for ZOTAC RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB?
The results should be nearly identical for the zotac version
thanks so much for this but It would be much better if the 3060 were there somewhere as the 3060 was one of the most popular GPUs for rendering due to the price and 12gb.
I can get one to add to the data. I used to have one, but sold it to a friend. Thanks!
Classroom / 4060M-OPTIX : 22.21 secs
Perhaps ~2080TI on PC.
Thanks for the data! Will add it to the list
which is better 7800xt or 4060 in render blender
I think the 7800 XT is probably just a little faster for Blender.
Does it matter if I get a 2 fan gpu vs 3 fan?
For lower wattage GPUs like the 4070 SUPER, the cooler design will make less of a difference. I have achieved better temps on my MSI 4070 Ventus 3X than on my dual fan PNY model. So three fans will likely cool a little bit better, but the GPU will probably perform similarly.
Dude, is 4070 (non super) faster than 3090?
The 4070 and the 3090 are pretty close, with the 3090 pulling ahead slightly. But keep in mind that the 4070 uses much less electricity to achieve this, so it runs cooler and has a smaller size.
@@ContradictionDesign i saw your previous video that you do benchmark comparing 4070,3080 dan 3090 and the result 4070 is slower than 3090 and 3080, so is that incorrect?
@@zonaeksperimen3449 The 4070 is close to the 3080 in some tests, and slightly slower in some tests. So on average, I believe the 4070 is a little bit slower than the 3080 yes.
The 4070 super is closer to the 3090. That must be what I was remembering.
You ALWAYS have to render two times because the first time is slow
Yes for the one frame test. Just because normally when I'm testing I have new drivers and haven't loaded the scene yet. Did I forget to in this video?
4070 super will do the job or i should get 4080?
The 4080 is quite a bit faster and has more VRAM. If you can swing it, the 4080 is definitely better.
@@ContradictionDesign my job is video editing and I will use blender and Maya too so 4080 will be a good investment for me actually am thinking to get 4080 super
@@Qwickxilver Yeah that sounds like a better plan. The 4080 super should be cheaper too
@@ContradictionDesign almost getting on same price of 4080
@@ContradictionDesign and one more thing am very confused I should pair it with i7 14700k or amd 7800x3d?
nice!
Thanks!
Must say it is fast.
But it mighe be worth getting the 4070 Ti Super for the extra VRAM, if you have the money.
The question is if the 4060 Ti 16 GB might be better in some cases.
It is just so much slower (165% the time) but I think it is more like 150$ cheaper.
Yeah the VRAM would be nice. I really want a GPU with more VRAM and a slower core for cheap. Like a 32 GB 4060 ti would be nice. Then they could fit in servers and use lower power.
@@ContradictionDesign I think we have to wait a long time for a 32 GB card. There might be some extreme modders that can change the RAM chips on a card and mod the bios to recognize the extra RAM. But it takes time to do a mod like that, and time is money, thus it might just be cheaper to bay a RTX 5000 Ada or RTX 6000 Ada. But now we are talking Threadripper money again, and that is only relevant for people who make money using there PCs.
When it comes to using less power there are a few things to keep in minde. Yes a 4090, 4080 Super or 4070 Ti Super do pull a lot of power, thus you will need a big PSU, and a tower that can cool that amount of power. But you pay for the Energy not the Power, thus we should be "total system efficiency" and the 4060 Ti will take 2.6 time a long as the 4090 to do the same job. And in all that time the rest of the system will also need to pull power. Assuming 100W for the rest of the system and 450W on the 4090 and 160W on the 4060 Ti, you get 550W vs 260W*2.6=676. So if the 4090 takes one hour to do the job it will use 0.55 kWh and the 4060 Ti will need 2.6 hours to do the same and use 0.676 kWh. Thus in this estimated example the 4090 would actually be better. That sad, the CPU might use more power on the 4090 setup, because it needs to keep up with the 4090, thus it might be a little close. Also I just used TDP values for the 4090 and the 4060 Ti, they may pull a different amount of power under a blender work load. So do not just storm out a bay a 4090. The 100W is also just a guess.
But I know that you know this because of you video on getting a server to fit more GPU in the same mashine to save on power usage.😀
Also it might be possible to under voltage both the 4090 and the 4060 Ti and thereby obtain better efficiencies.
Also the 4080, 4080 Super might be more efficient than the 4090, due to the slightly lower clock, but again, you could probably make the 4090 a little more efficient. 🙂
Gamer Nexus has a good chart on GPU efficiency in the 4070 Ti Super video.
Now it is time to view 7600 XT reviews 🙂 (what a week )
@@Petch85 Haha yeah I am definitely a big fan of the 4090. It is most efficient overall.
I will get an SXM type server someday, so the gpus can all share VRAM via NVLINK. But these systems are far more expensive than even threadrippers.
I have concluded over time that many small cards is always worse than few big ones.
And yes, I am still hoping to get a 7600 XT, but have not ordered one yet.
@@ContradictionDesignSLI are not really a ting anymore, and linking cards has become very expensive. And there is not a lot to choose between.
The 7600 XT looks a little disappointing for the price to me.
I think the 4060 ti 16 GB is better for the price, if the budget allows for it. (The price is very close where I live)
@@Petch85 Yeah I think the 4060 Ti may be a better choice than the 7600 XT. And the 7600 XT has a tdp of 195 Watt, which is way too much for its performance. The 4060 Ti is 165 so much better for multi gpu.
NVlink is still usable on 3090, so I want to try to prove its worth in Blender. However, I do not think the VRAM actually pools in Blender, even though it does have a setting to enable it. I think only some softwares for ML have the proper coding to add the VRAM. But people have asked, so I figure I'd try it again.
Fore the : RTX 4090 14 sec faster ::: THAN the RTX 4070 Super - YOO PAY 1000 Dollare more for 14 sec time save .- /// THX for the coffee ...
Yes, but it really depends on how many frames you are rendering. See the other reply for more breakdown, but animations have thousands of frames, so the time adds up really fast.
what about the quality of ROLEX bracket?
Oh man I forgot to mention it. I also forgot to go through the system specs, but nobody has asked about it yet.
@@ContradictionDesign You should describe it in detail. Your grandson will inherit it in the future.
yeeeyyyyyy🎉
Pretty fun stuff!
Not bad, but in Europe 115$ more for super with no bigger improvement (VRAM).
Yeah that's the biggest thing. If you can't get it for within 20% of the 4070, there isn't enough difference to justify it.
@@ContradictionDesign After all, those 4gb vram more convinced me more. Of couse you can find 4070 ti super with 16gb vram, but it's roughly 400€ more here. Of course, 2x faster, but for my case it does not really matter. Maybe next year we will have something better with 20gb++ vram :) 4070 super would have been great, but those 12 gb vram killed the vibe.
Yeah I hope for 32 GB 5090, 20 GB 5080, 16 GB 5070.... etc. More is better for 3D, but you know they will rather push us toward their professional GPUs instead of add VRAM.