Three Most Common Serve Mistakes - Don't Do This! (TENFITMEN - Episode 143)
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2021
- Understand the most common serve mistakes and learn how to fix them // Wondering how to improve your serve? How to hit serve like a pro? How to hit effortless serve like Novak Djokovic? How to hit perfect serve like Roger Federer? How to hit powerful serve like John Isner? How to hit deadly serve like Nick Kyrgios? How to hit more efficient serve? How to hit faster serve?
In this video, Milan from TENFITMEN Tennis Impulse shows you the most common mistakes (and three bonus mistakes) players make on their serve and gives tips on how to fix them. Hope you enjoy it!
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MILAN, first of all my daughter and I whishes you a healthy recovery fra Copenhagen Denmark. This video gives us order in Chaos regarding her serving fundamentals. You are making a huge positive difference in the world wide tennis community with your channel. THANK YOU!!!
wow this is one of the best serve instruction videos on youtube
Incredibly comprehensive, thorough and useful step by step tennis serve instruction. This is debunking the myths that tennis club players have been (erroneously) taught for years. I have already tried some of Milan's serve tips after watching some of his other videos on the serve and I was surprised at how quickly those tips have already helped. I am prepared that it's going to take some time to fully implement the changes. Thank you so much Milan for taking the time to upload these super useful videos!
Easy to understand! Thank-you!
Glad to hear that. Hope it helps as well! :)
I used those in the game just now . Slow down, find the rhyme and no rush! It works! Thanks!
Thanks Milan I have got confused with other videos and serve not getting any better. I will go back to your model wrist position, lag, rotation leg drive etc stick with this for next few weeks and see where I am then. 😊
This is great . Haven’t seen these tips explained so well. Helping my serve a lot
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I've been bringing the arms up together. Thank goodness for your advice. I went on court here in the UK today in the rain, wind, and thunder storm (20 Oct 2021) to test the fix. I got soaked. Everyone went home except me. The storm passed by quickly and the sun came out. Totally unbelievable. My serve is much much better now. Milan, you are a top coach. Many thanks.
Hey Ranjit, that's just awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience, well done for being so resilient and patient. Very glad the video helped and so happy to hear your story, made my day! :)
This was just an excellent summary of the most common basic mistakes in an amateur player’s serve, with useful tips for fixing them also! Bravo, Milan, Especially the mistake #2 (a & b (c)) is symptomatic, endemic in ”okay” level club player serving and elusive/difficult to fix. Even though one might also point out that this mistake is not that much in the simulatneous lifting of both arms as Stan Wawrinka seems to be one of the top ATP pros using this kinda ”syncrionized lifts” (a fact that might also contribute to the ”elusiveness” of the mistake since ”even top pros do that”!) but the actual mistake follows if you don’t adjust immediately like Stan does after the dominant arm is (way too) up and thus drop it lower while also decreasing the elbow angle in the process. - But you are correct that the mistake is endemic for simultaneous lifting of both arms and it might be better to correct the problem from the get go: separating the arms by delaying the racquet arm until the shoulder tilt is achieved/developing. Excellent work. Thank you!
Thanks Jack for sharing your thoughts and for thorough analysis. Seems like you have great understanding of this complex shot. Hope this video helps you a bit in the process of improving your serve and getting to the next level!
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse Yes, I have pretty much checked all the possible slots in my serve. Now trying to get it even more versatile and lethal: spins, placement, disguise, serve +1 tactics, and few extra mphs wouldn’t hurt either in the 1st flat/fast serve. That being said I still struggle with my dominant arm lag, occasionally: in timing its trophy phase late enough, and that happens usually when muscle fatigue kicks in and I start to resort to instinctive shorts-cuts in the execution/backswing. I try and emulate Roger’s current simultaneous ”lift & lag”/”back & forth” backswing which might become pretty tricky when tired. Thus I am not holding the racquet still in its initial low position to delay it, instead I let the arm and racquet make that wide arch signature ”zigzag turn” behind the body before closing the elbow less than 90 degrees in the trophy position. It is not the easiest way to do the lag but it might be the most fluid and mobile one, hah. You have to accept trade-offs in all your choices in tennis anyway! I just have to monitor closely my performance when I feel the urge to simplify the backswing, the delay and timing of the dominant arm/racquet trophy position in the focus. Not too early and not too open! - While I play and work with my own game, I also coach few other players and that might be the most useful way to learn things when trying to make things , flaws and fixes, clear to other players as as myself!
Very useful tips, specially the one about the elbow for me
Absolutely brilliant advice. True gold !!! If you’re able to follow even half of these, Goran is under threat 😋
Thanks a ton for such a great video !
Some great points, really well explained. Thank you.
Best tennis service advice for club and intermediate players I have ever seen..Simply brilliant technical sound advice and straight to the correct tweaks to improvise on the technique.This is execution with precise advice to help up a person's service game.
Great explanation and illustration. Thanks!
One of the best short online serve course I've ever seen. Thanks a lot !
great video, very helpful thank you
I tried at my house the same mistake comes to me but after seeing I understand what mistake I did and I corrected.All because of you I got tennis well and good.THANKS MAN 👨
All because of you my tennis club friends call pro player and everyone calls me to their team .All were begging to me pls come team like that.THANKS FOR CORRECTING MY MISTAKES THANKS AGAIN
@@tenfitmensachin2313 Thanks, that's just awesome! :)
Thank you, that puts such a big smile on my face. Keep playing, improving and having fun!
Fantastic breakdown of errors and how to fix them !!!!
From all the coaches on youtube you Milan are the most helpfull because you give tips that no one else does and help us think movement and techine with an other point of view. Big thanks to your effort. Would love to see a video about forehand and backhands grips because I struggle alot untill find the correct way to actually hold the racket. When I manage to understand that I could put into practice your tips in a much better way.
Awesome. Best tennis coach on RUclips
Thank you for the wonderful demonstration between the wrong and the correct form of serve. Hopefully I can correct my serve.
Hello milan christos from greece.your videos Helped me a lot i love your passion for this incredible sport called tennis.i realized from this video that if you have the correct swing you do better serve.especially in the beginning of swing if you bring the racket In the trophy position vertically With out opening it I mean to bring the racket in the trophy position end then in the racket drop with the edge the whole movement becomes better and as you say this is supported from the right place of the wrist.thank you very much For your tips about the serve.
Incredibly helpful, I could relate to all of these problems
Thanks, hope you'll be able to improve your serve after watching this video! :)
I have seen many videos about waiter tray error but I found yours particulary pertinent as you point out
thé rôle of the wrist which as crutial as the position of the elbowm
Sorry.. I mean during the whole serve motion
Personnaly a too low elbow when reaching trophy position lead me to open my wrist instead having this right to left move of the forearm over my head
Thanks a lot for your videos
Wow, you explain very well and that's how you help us find our mistakes. We are waiting for as many videos as possible. You can tell me what patent string you have on the 18 × 20 or 16 × 19 blade, what string and what voltage (the configuration looks ok and seems very stable and precise). Many thanks
Excellent demonstration on serve motion. Loved it. first time viewer, subscribed too. 👍👍
Thanks, glad you like it and welcome to TENFITMEN! :)
I am investgating the serve and really the only guy getting on court with a bucket of balls and practising. Those two of your clips on serve are by far the best I've come across (which are more than 50). Great show!!!
Wow, thanks Andreas, that means so much. Happy to hear that you do serve training on your own. It's a must if you want to take it to the next level. Hope this video helps you in that process!
The Pros learn to swing the racquet all around on its edge and only open it just before making contact with the ball. That's why if you don't do it that way and leave the strings all open in the air then that slows head speed down during pronation so the ball takes a second or longer to go down through the court to your opponent and your accuracy also suffers and the pronation won't feel very clean either and feel fuzzy and dull.. When the pronation is nice and crisp and clean the ball will take under a second to get all down there on a good heavy power bomb..
A good feel on the ball to me is when I can actually sense the whole entire ball sitting in the center of the sweetspot.
I don't feel fuzz, I don't feel a soft ball there, I don't feel just a bunch of strings there, instead I feel a complete rock solid round
crisp tennis ball depressing down in the middle of the strings during pronation, you can actually feel the ball
depressing into the stringbed. And you also see that on slow motion cameras the ball making a deep depression in the strings before the ball releases out of the racquet.
I look for this feeling on my serves and also on my forehand when wanting to power drive the ball.
Awesome!
Thanks Pedro, glad you like it!
Hey man you are great tennis coach.
Excellent explanation! Now I try it on court. Thank you . Question : head movement during the serve. Is the head still ?
I like 3 bouns tips and Tks. very useful for me
Excellent video! I have always served with arms going up together - so I tried serving keeping racquet arm down. Takes a bit/lot of getting used to but I can see how it creates far more kinetic power…ball toss had to be higher?
top video, top explained
Thanks so much. Hope it helps!
Brilliant Video bro.:)
Thanks Darren! Hope it helps! :)
Thank you Milan. What are your feelings about having a nice arm shape / space away from the front of the body on the "way down" ( after ball strike), maybe further combining with even a high elbow finish ala Sampras ? Being a 5ft 8 player, I feel like if I'm conscious of this, I can "spike" the ball more into the middle of the service box .
On mistake 2 if you position the head straightforward you can only can hold the shoulders straight. So if you tilt you head in and up early with the shoulders your aim is more balanced
Thanks working on mistake 2 so to get separate arm movement keeps me from stopping service in the middle.
Great stuff, Milan, thank you. You have big arms and shoulders, does that help you with serve power or injury prevention?
Hi there
Love all your videos
Do you have a video for the plus 1 ball / short ball after the serve?
That’s what I struggle with at times
I hit a good serve then get a nice floaty short ball then end up doing nothing with it or hitting it out or in the net 😬
Milan, this video has helped a lot. It's funny when you demonstrate the incorrect ways to serve because you are showing an amazing impersonation of my USTA 4.0 leagues (myself included). It wouldn't be fun for you but it would be fun for me to see you play a 4.0 match with two knee braces, two elbow braces and still beat everyone 6-0 6-0.
Great vid Milan...I do have a fairly decent serve but I videod myself serving yesterday and my elbow does get a bit high on take back as in your mistake 2.....and just like in golf....practice makes perfect..,.....off to the courts to rectify so thanks a bunch and greetings from Brisbane.
I just realized I have similar issue, I guess. Now, it turn to correct my serve
Thanks for sharing Kevin. Curious to hear how did it go in your practice? As you said, it will take lots of time and effort. Good luck!
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Good job on your training Milan, you look in top form and ready to smoke some winners down the line.
Nice tips brate , i have a question. The drop happens by itself when we lead up elbow? Or we force drop by me? Greetings from Greece! Keep going!
Arms up together is not necessarily bad. Depends on the body mechanics. Rafter did this, and he won two US opens.
Thank you. Where does the racket hit the ball? I mean where is the contact point on the ball? 30% of my serves are long and 30% are in the net so is my problem the wrong contact point? Thank you.
How about the serve of RF? It looks like he is tossing the ball at the same time with the racket. The same alsonas Andy Roddick?
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Would it be fair to say that the wrist stays really quiet and inactive in order to stop early pronation?
Finding out problem is easy. Fixing is hard. I have the problem with open racket (eg when it should flare). The real problem is I did it WITHOUT me FEELING it subconsciously. Must have been a chronic muscle memory. The wrist just open automatically. How do I fix it?
These tips are of course all correct but with training pupils it is so specific who the student is. You can't give tips in general without specifying the type of student or at least the level they are playing. If you are a starter than you can't expect them to have the right grip. For a starter the forehand grip makes a lot of sense. So does the stance (feet more next to eachother). Especially the serve is such a complex motion. Balance, timing, coordination. It depends so much on your motor skills. It takes ages to make small improvements and for certain people it is just unfair to show a professional serve and tell them to do it like that. They will have to work with what they've got. So a pancake serve will never be an ATP serve with hip and torso rotation, with a racket drop and pronation etc. They can find improvements though. Just not this way. I know teaching through video's can be helpful but it can also be harmful.
is this in hong kong?
Wheee do you offer in person class in Shanghai?
Just curious are you at China?
I checked him serving at the beginning and instantly saw these mistakes: 1. stance is wrong (ironically he starts to teach stance at the beginning (I only watched less than a minute this video) 2. he tosses and lifts racket at the same time 3. he raises racket .. well just wrongly. 3. his timing is bad 4. he dont release coil tension fully (he never had much anyway). 5. he doesnt lift his leg at the end, and the list goes on.
He is not serving first time but is still very beginner what comes to serving.
Any modifications to the racket??
Not so far. But I'm planning to do it. Any recommendations? :)
@@tenfitmentennisimpulseI put 4 x 1.5g strips of lead on each of the four sides of the handle and another 4 x 1.5gs strips of lead on the 2-4 and 8-10 of the head. This will keep the balance of the racket the same for the most part. Leather grip. And a some silicone in the handle. I like the setup overall as it produces easy power while still maneuverable. Still experimenting with the strings...been using the full bed of ALU power at 55lbs. let us know what you plan to experiment with 💪👍
Even your incorrect serve looks better than mine 🤣🤣🤣
why does everyone talk about having a loose wrist and you are talking about having a locked wrist?
i wish you were my coach
Thanks, that's very nice to hear Chris. It would be my pleasure one day! :)
Hey Milan, Stan the man here. Are you saying I’m doing it wrong with my both arms going up together??
Ah by the way the best server ever Sampras didn’t have that on edge drop from trophy position you know that, right? He actually has an “ugly” open racket face drop!