Rockered Review: 3 v 4 Wheel Katana Skate Frames
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- In this episode we will explore three different Katana frames by Powerslide. I want to talk about how they react, what the main differences are, and what I do and don't like about them.
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I moved from my 100mm Wizard setup to my 76/80/80/76mm rockered FR1's, just for a change, and wow what a difference, took me a little while to adjust ha..
Love your skating skills, awesome to watch
I've still never tried the Wizard frames. Would love to someday.
Thanks a lot for this review! It helps me a lot, in my opinion the best review about PS Katana Frame.
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This video is amazing!
Your pacing is perfect. I highly believe your subs will explode very soon.
Fantastic video -- IMO your best video yet! Super informative and some showing off some super smooth skate moves. I was also shopping for a trinity 4x80 frame a few weeks ago (switching from the 3x90 Katana that were stock with my Taus). I just couldn't get used to the three-wheel rocker -- it just didn't feel as smooth and it was frustrating to always be either forward or back -- it didn't feel natural.
I wound up buying a flat 4x80 trinity frame (Nexus?) and going with a 76/80/80/76 setup and buying an extra set of 80mm wheels in case I want to go flat -- maybe less frustrating than messing with the eccentric axles. The frame was much cheaper too.
Also I suspect that the 4x80 Katana Rockered are probably discontinued as well -- Inline Warehouse had these listed on their site as out of stock until a few weeks ago, but now they aren't even listed there at all.
Ohh... great that they offer some flat setups as well. Only there 3x90 Nexus can be rockered.
great explanation for katana frames, looking to buy one
thanks for these great videos. I'm about to get a HC EVO as well. super excited.(hope i get the size right)
Exhaustive video! Thanks for the details.
Wow one of the best videos I have ever seen. Great explanation on the difference of frames i order both frames. Thanks to your video. I’ll be practicing once I’ll get them and explore the difference thanks
The 3x100 Katana frame that you are reviewing in this video comes a different size. Since it came from your Helios, it is 215mm. But the 3x100 Katana frame also comes in 231mm, which is much more stable and feels closer to the 4x80 size.
Okay here’s the deal as to the unavailability of the 4x80 frame. I see the 2019 evo skate comes with a frame marked as NEXUS. The 2018 skate had a KATANA frame. You got the last of the Katana frames. The Nexus frames are available in all sizes.
I don’t know what the difference is between the two. Maybe the supplier.
Price? Quality?
I’m going to look into a 4X80
Beautiful skating. I wonder what a rockered 125mm would be like
Thank you posting this handsome!! Mine should be in stock may 5th I’m putting this on the swell boot
Excellent video.
I use threadlock on my screws and sometimes it seeps out onto the axle and gets the axle stuck. What I do is undo the screw about 90% out and while keeping the allen wrench in the screw, tap it with the palm of my hand or use a small hammer if it is really stuck. Once the axle gets loose, then I undo the screw completely and life is good again.
Nice review. I hope that in the future you will choose a better bg music or turn it down.
Great video, very informative. I've seen your videos before but you've earned a sub with this one.
Thank you
It seems that the rockered frame only provides benefit when the wheels are completely new? In other words the wheels on the rockered and non-rockered frames will look completely the same over time since what dictates the maintenance of the rocker is the relative rate that the front, middle, and back wheels wear down. Since the rate of wear between the wheels doesn't seem to be changing between the rockered and non-rockered frames eventually they will which reach some equilibrium and look identical. Please correct me if I am wrong.
dude you're worth the money ...have two setups with each dedicated to a favored setup with the movable axel...i realize that's a costly solution but...i refer you to my first sentence
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4 wheel lyfe. I still want you to try double rockering the front, though, it’s the best
Just gotta get some 76mm wheels sometime.
What do you mean by double rockering? You rocker the bolts plus smaller wheels in the front?
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I'm surprised you're using full radius 80mm wheels for the kind of skating you do here. My experience doing similar moves proved bullet profile is more appropriate and much closer to ice skating. Maybe it would be a good subject for a future video - bullet vs full radius wheels. Put 4 new bullet radius wheels on left skate and 4 new wheels full radius on the right skate and go for spin. Wheels should be same hardness 80mm, from the same manufacturer, even the same color if possible. Excellent video by the way!
Great vid, thanks!
Thank you for this very informative video! :)
I have ordered a 4x76mm Katana frame after watching your video (still possible to order them in the EU at least). Powerslide should pay you a comission... 😉
That’s awesome! I love my Katana 4x80! It’s my favorite frame!
Can you tell me if those are still available? I really want to get them.
so what should one get to move like that? any rockered 4 wheel skates? some special frame?
Great info here, Dude. I'm considering a set of 4x80 frames for my Reign Kronos which currently sit on the 215mm 3x100 frame. It's unacceptable not to be given the correct info with a set of skates costing £500-600; this is just sub-standard customer service. The axel issue sounds like enough to put me off these even if they were available; I'm not sure rockering is a feature I'd necessarily use anyway, but the 4x80 on a Trinity frame certainly appeals. Will need to decide whether shop around and see what is still available, or put that cash to a set of Adapts. Thanks for sharing.
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To be fair, my statement that “Powerslide is one of the worst offenders” when it comes to not giving enough info is not really true. I’ve since noticed that basically ever major manufacturer is guilty of this.. but that doesn’t make it better. Just means I should not single Powerslide out like that. They replaced the Katana with the Nexus frames, which as I understand are not rockered in 4x80. So that is probably a good option to look into if you’re not concerned about the rocker and want a solid trinity 4x80. I think the Aussie Inline Skater has the Nexus 4x80 on his Kronos Skates and he loves them.
You’re right, I’ve heard about people having issues with other skate brands also, but PS aren’t too forthcoming. I can’t shift one of my trinity frames because the rear bolt has been torqued to death and I’ve stripped the bolt trying to remove it; the response from PS was: drill it out but don’t break it. Didn’t even offer so much as a bolt?! Regardless, I still like their gear. Yeah, Aussie prefers the Nexus 4x80 to the triskate, I’m gonna see if I can find it.
Since my last comment I learned the Nexus is hard to find as well. It seems like it was also discontinued and replaced by the Ego SL. Just FYI.
@@DeezSkates Thanks Dude. It seems the Ego is a stripped down version of the Nexus.
Which wheel is rockered in a 3-wheel-setup? The first one?
I just swapped my Katana 235 3x90 off of my Tau Carbon. because they were just too unstable for me on the edge. Rear wheel tip point seemed out. Now running the Powerslide Elite 4x80 flat. When I get more used to that I lay look for a rockered but for now I just want to learn everythin before even looking at slalam. The axles on katana suck. I wish they did a 4x90 like adapt do
Very helpful video! Have you ever tried skating on 231 mm frame with rockered set up? I can't decide which frame to choose for slalom: 231 mm frame with 4 x 76 or 243 mm frame with 4 x 80. My usual size is 43 EU (foot length is 265 mm)
Thx for the video.
Can you tell me how many millimeters have the rocker axels? Thx
And to get the axles out more easily have you tried giving them just a little lubrication/oil before inserting them.?
I have a seba rockered frame. great for street skates
Nice! I have a Seba frame that allows rocker or flat skating. Love Seba Skates!
hı there, i'm living in Istanbul-Turkiye. i have powerslide zom 100 skate, 231 mm (triskate wheel) i want alternate with an 4 wheeled Trinity Frame (for urban purposes) which katana model will be suited it ? thanks a lot.
Could or would you rocker big wheel frames such as powerslide dh350 that has 2x125 + 2x110?
I have that same problem with the axles on my katana frames it’s a bitch to get them to fit right you also I use a small screwdriver that fits in the axel to pop it out I just hit the end with my skate tool and it usually comes out the first strike idk if that might be easier than a pen if it doesn’t always come out the first time
I belive that the Catana frame are going to be replaced by Nexus Frame. Maybe that is the reason why it is hard to find cantana frames.
Göran Jönsson any chance that the Nexus frame has better screws than D was talking about?
I do not think so since I have the Nexus frame and I am experience simular problems.
I'm an ice skater and just ordered inline skates after using quad skates during lockdown. Do you think I'd be happier if I rocker the wheels right away to replicate ice skating more? Are rockered wheels still good for skating the streets?
Yes, and yes. 😉
Did you figure out the issue with the bolts? Tx.
Interesting video! I have a Seba frame 3x110 setup, that I just rockered by putting a new 100mm wheel at the front. The other two 110 are pretty worn-out so I'd say there is like 5mm difference. Still pretty unstable on these big wheels.
I'm interested in getting the HC Evo's, but I don't slalom. Have you tried 110/125 setups on your HC Evo's?
I haven’t used anything that big, but my city skate frame is a rockered 3x100 frame and it’s awesome. The Evo is a great universal boot, good for many applications other than Slalom.
I'm still cut I can't get these frames.
I have the exact same axle problem on my Tau:s... I could go for the Nexus but Katana is so much better looking :) ... anyone knows if its possible to buy these dark stock wheels anywhere in Europe?
That's something weird about the (2018) Taus -- they come with these black Undercover wheels stock but they don't seem to be available after market. www.undercover-wheels.com
Are you able to skate on a circle with a flat triskate setup? I tried a rockered 4 wheel setup 2 weeks ago and have been practicing skating on a circle. With a rocker it feels natural. With my triskates it feels like the skates are fighting against me, and I can't really do it.
I can do it. However, it takes a lot more pushing power and work from the hips and knees. The flatter your setup, the more physics demands from your form.
@@DeezSkates Sorry, I just realized my mistake. I can do a 2 foot glide with no issue. It's a 1 foot glide I was talking about. Do you encounter issues with a 1 foot outside edge glide as well? The skate wants to go straight, and off the top of my head, when I do sorta of skate a smaller circle, it requires lifting my toe a little. So it's not a smooth 1 foot glide, and I can't balance for as long before putting my other foot down.
rocker by different size wheels?
No. The Katana frames have a rotating axel that raises and lowers the wheel positions.
in 4 wheels you also got just 2 contact wheels at time not 3 like youre saying
Huh? I never said that. I said it has three points of contact, which is a front, center, and back rocking position, each with two wheels touching at a time.
Hey, did you by any chance get this frame from Inlinewarehouse? Great video btw!
I was watching them on Inline Warehouse (at $130 which would be $109 with my member discount), but when I went to purchase they sold out. I got the last one I could find at Skate Pro and paid almost $170. 😞
Oh okay I placed and order 2 weeks ago on inlinewarehouse but they messed up the order and now are saying that they are not even able to order 4x80 katana frame from Powerslide at all. It seems that Powerslide is not on top of their game as far as manufacturing goes. 😬 I wanted to purchase this frame for my HC Evo Pro and also try them with my Reign Helios when playing roller hockey.
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@@LRKusa93 I suspect the 4x80 Katanas have been discontinued.
I think it's the 231mm that can't be rockered...not the 225mm. I've seen the 225 rockered. I have a 231mm that can't be rockered the tri-skates.
I was referring to the wheel size, not the frame length. It is the 3x125 mm that can’t be rockered, but I don’t know the length of that frame.
Deez, Oh sorry...my mistake. Hey after I missed out on getting your size 41 boots, you inspired me to go out and find another pair. I found a slightly used pair of size 41 Powerslide HC Evo Pro Trinity skates on Ebay. A seller from California that I've bought a pair of Reign Hockey skates from before. Can't wait to get the new skates. Really excited. They looks so sweet and well made.
Nice! You’re going to love them! They’re fantastic skates!