Siskel & Ebert Classics - 5/31/89 - "The Movies That Made Us Critics" Special

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  • Gene and Roger outline some of the films that had a major influence on them in this episode from 5/31/89.
    *Home Video Availability*
    DUMBO (Blu-Ray & DVD)
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    A DAY AT THE RACES (DVD)
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    LA DULCE VITA (Criterion Blu-Ray & DVD; box set only, individual release out of print)
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    BONNIE & CLYDE (Blu-Ray & DVD)
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    BLUE VELVET (Criterion Blu-Ray & DVD)
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    BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (Blu-Ray & DVD)
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Комментарии • 254

  • @trulytrekkie
    @trulytrekkie 3 года назад +165

    I don't think I've ever seen Gene more surprised by Roger's reaction than when Roger called "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" a turkey and Gene stuck out his hand for Roger to shake. It really shows they didn't know what the other person was going to say. It's shows how quick witted each one had to be to discuss a film and try to either support or refute an argument in such limited time with no rehearsal. Miss them both.

    • @bucksdiaryfan
      @bucksdiaryfan 3 года назад +5

      it was a great moment!!

    • @jimlang7461
      @jimlang7461 Год назад +4

      @@bucksdiaryfan agreed. Often they disagree and for me, it's always been Gene who was wrong. This was one of the times they were both wrong.

    • @joeski734
      @joeski734 10 месяцев назад +4

      I am struck by how erudite they both are. They were really smart guys. So they got their first critic jobs writing for two huge newspapers when they were 23 and 25! That could never happen today! Neither could discussions at such a high level on regular old TV.

  • @nebulous6660
    @nebulous6660 3 года назад +171

    I'm hooked on these re-runs. They're helping me discover old classics.

    • @hawaiidispenser
      @hawaiidispenser 3 года назад +6

      Thank you, such a good idea. I saw most of their episodes from like 1990 onward, but I bet there are tons of great movies that I could discover by rewatching the whole series.

    • @corbinmccasland7869
      @corbinmccasland7869 3 года назад +2

      Are you aware of the criterion collection?

    • @nebulous6660
      @nebulous6660 3 года назад +5

      @@corbinmccasland7869 No, but thanks I'll check it out.

    • @lanceyt9982
      @lanceyt9982 3 года назад +1

      It is great to rewatch stuff from when I was a kid.

    • @hassambitw
      @hassambitw Год назад +2

      Ebert's "Great Movies" list can be found online, and I'd suggest joining Letterboxd to find other classics too.

  • @marcmaschal2897
    @marcmaschal2897 3 года назад +73

    Yes watching these old S and E is addictive. They were so smart and articulate. Reminds me of when I was young and the world made sense.

    • @ericrosenburg657
      @ericrosenburg657 Год назад +4

      Highest level of artistic criticism. They elevated their language and themes without any fear of being smarter than their audience. Those of us that grew up watching these critics, have a much deeper appreciation for the cinema, thank you!!!

    • @ziton5063
      @ziton5063 Год назад +2

      amen to this comment Marc. I am 26 and sad my current world does not make any sense.

  • @blinkzone1
    @blinkzone1 8 месяцев назад +12

    I miss Siskel & Ebert. They were truly one of a kind

  • @SamJohnsonAZ
    @SamJohnsonAZ Год назад +26

    Roger made a great point about how when you re-watch certain movies when you’re older you see different things and it makes you Realize you’re a different person than you used to be

    • @HarbingerOfBattle
      @HarbingerOfBattle 7 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve been learning that myself. It’s dawned on me that the woke stuff everybody complains about in movies these days are not a new phenomenon, not by a long shot, it can be seen in more subtle ways in these older movies from the 90s and even way back in the days of the silver screen with movies like To Kill a Mockingbird. The big difference, in my opinion, is that the writers seemed to respect the intelligence of the audience, that they could figure out for themselves what the film and characters are trying to say instead of some overly written and long winded monologue right in your face. The way Hollywood makes movies today makes me feel like they must think I’m about as sharp as a piece of wet cardboard.

    • @noisepuppet
      @noisepuppet 6 месяцев назад

      But if the person who watched it years ago is a different person from you, then you're not watching it again. You're watching it for the first time. You could say, "younger me saw this in first run. Now I'm going to see it for the first time." 🙃

  • @clutchkman
    @clutchkman 3 года назад +39

    Watching these as an adult, I’ve noticed how great they were at television. These two didn’t waste a second, and I usually agree with them, but I don’t mind when I don’t. That’s why I loved this show even when I was a kid and hadn’t seen any of the movies they talked about. Now, I think I’ve seen them all, and it’s even better! May they rest.

  • @WilliamLyons-ym7ee
    @WilliamLyons-ym7ee 7 месяцев назад +6

    I miss these guys. I don’t think they will
    ever be topped.
    Ebert taught me more appreciation of cinema.
    I wonder what they would think of today’s films, especially when I saw “Oppenheimer” & “Killers of the Flower Moon” & “Napoleon”.
    Rest in peace.

  • @canuck_gamer3359
    @canuck_gamer3359 3 года назад +64

    That moment when Gene puts out his hand and Roger shakes it....that is just priceless. I tried to shut this video off 3 times but every time they talked about what was on the other side of the break I just had to hear it. God bless them both!

    • @bucksdiaryfan
      @bucksdiaryfan 3 года назад +5

      you bastard!!! You stole EXACTLY what I was going to write! It brought a tear to my eye, especially remembering how Ebert championed Siskel's memory after he passed away so shockingly.... you are right on point!

    • @canuck_gamer3359
      @canuck_gamer3359 3 года назад +2

      @@bucksdiaryfan Who would have thought I would be writing a "thank you" about a message that starts out "you bastard"? LOL. I'm really glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed that moment :)

    • @bucksdiaryfan
      @bucksdiaryfan 3 года назад +5

      @@canuck_gamer3359 It was so subtle, Ebert didn't even break stride, but you could tell Siskel had some cosmic weight lifted from him regarding that review

    • @blacbraun
      @blacbraun 2 года назад

      Reminds me when Batman shakes Robin's hand in the opening credits of the old Batman show.

  • @DJHyeFXOfficial
    @DJHyeFXOfficial Год назад +16

    I never missed an episode of these guys as a kid and now as a Generation X adult, I sure do miss them and those times. My generation was truly blessed to grow up in those times!

  • @bhodges00
    @bhodges00 3 года назад +52

    This was a great episode. I miss these guys.

  • @yodathehutt1557
    @yodathehutt1557 3 года назад +32

    Weren't these two the absolute best

  • @frankgonzalez222
    @frankgonzalez222 Год назад +7

    I loved these two men. I'm forever grateful that I got to see their shows when they were current. Gave me an education on the appreciation and critique of the movies. Always classy and forever remembered.❤

  • @troysuza2065
    @troysuza2065 2 года назад +11

    I miss these guys more than some family members, they had such an impact on my life as a kid. I remember waking up early on Sundays(that's when it came on in my area) just to catch the newest episode of S&E. I grew up like many who thought Gene was more stuck up and loved Roger, but it wasn't till I was grown that I truly see how awesome he was, how funny and quick witted. Gene would be high on movies that Roger didn't like and I also liked for his same reasons. While also laughing when they both got it wrong and praising when they got it right and couldn't wait to see the movie the hailed as one of the best of the years. They truly loved movies as much as me.

  • @Fergie260
    @Fergie260 3 года назад +13

    Ya know I do disagree with both of them about Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid but the way Gene smiled & shook his hand when he found out Roger agreed with him put a big grin on my face too!

  • @JJSmithMedia
    @JJSmithMedia 3 года назад +19

    Gene name-dropping Song Of The South is the most fascinating thing for me.
    Would’ve loved to have seen Gene and Roger review THAT movie...

    • @timothylangston3560
      @timothylangston3560 11 месяцев назад +1

      And Dumbo, considering the modern interpretation of the films context. I mean they just erased Splash Mountain at Disneyland.

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 3 года назад +12

    Omg Dumbo had a HUGE, profound effect on me growing up lol even when I was a little older I broke down crying watching that part of the movie! 😭

  • @jgatzby4263
    @jgatzby4263 3 года назад +11

    Andy, thank you so much for sharing this; watching this felt like listening to the late Siskel and Ebert give a great college lecture.

  • @BolofromAvlis
    @BolofromAvlis 11 месяцев назад +5

    Man, watching these shows again after so many years really reminds me of how great Roger and Gene were, and also how much I've loved films over the years. I still love them just as much, the difference is the movies have changed for the worse. What sticks with me is when Gene talks about movie character being cookie cutter and similar to "made for TV" films and characters.

  • @OronOfMontreal
    @OronOfMontreal 2 года назад +3

    G-d, I loved these guys! They could surprise themselves and each other, even decades after seeing a given movie, and I find this delightful.
    Siskel & Ebert, beginning in the mid-70s on PBS, taught me how to think about cinema, rather than what to think about any particular film.

  • @Jim_Wolf
    @Jim_Wolf 3 года назад +18

    'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid' is one of the greatest westerns ever made. Its screenplay was voted by WGA as the 11th greatest American screenplay of all time. It's crazy that both hated it, and so thoroughly too.
    It wasn't unusual for one of them to discount a masterpiece from time to time, but it was rare when both did.

    • @ethanedwards7557
      @ethanedwards7557 3 года назад +6

      Definitely NOT a masterpiece. Hasn’t aged well.

    • @Jim_Wolf
      @Jim_Wolf 3 года назад +13

      Could not disagree more. It has aged like fine wine.

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 года назад +8

      @@ethanedwards7557 the chemistry, charm and charisma of the Newman-Redford pair-ups (the other being "the Sting") does not age and probably never will

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 года назад +5

      @@ethanedwards7557 as much as I love "Butch Cassidy" I would rank "the Searchers" higher on a list of best Westerns, i'll give you that much Ethan Edwards lol

    • @gloriasteele7938
      @gloriasteele7938 Год назад +4

      "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" is a classic.

  • @blerten
    @blerten 3 месяца назад +1

    How I missed this wonderful episode in the original airing I don't know, thanks so much!

  • @jonnybirchyboy1560
    @jonnybirchyboy1560 2 года назад +14

    11:48 so very true on Ebert’s part, except now it’s even worse. Modern Hollywood isn’t concerned with paltry things like “narrative” or “chemistry” anymore like they were in the 90s. Now it’s all about the most marketable IPs, special effects, and whatever cheap gimmicks they can throw on screen.

    • @tarman2752
      @tarman2752 2 года назад +5

      Also can’t forget throwaway political themes that don’t fit with the setting or characters at ALL. All about ideologies rather than art nowadays and it blows

    • @Hexon66
      @Hexon66 Год назад +2

      @@tarman2752 Any examples, or do you just want to leave that milquetoast half-condemnation as it stands? Films have always been political, including the ones presented in this episode. If you're on the wrong side of history, that's something you may need to resolve. The problem with new films, mostly Marvel, is that they are anesthesia to political action. Corporate Hollywood wants people to get their sense of justice in the cinema, and forget about real world problems.

  • @GrindhouseTori
    @GrindhouseTori 2 года назад +6

    What a terrific episode!! It was so fascinating & literally exciting to see what film was up next & listen to the discussion of the cinema which impacted them most. I always find it enthralling to hear my favorite people talk about their favorite, and least favorite, movies. Unfortunately, I missed this particular episode first time ‘round. I was only nine when it aired.

  • @timothygrant7266
    @timothygrant7266 3 года назад +7

    I watched their program in the 80s and 90s, but I never caught this one. Thanks for uploading it. And I shut off Blue Velvet because it made me uncomfortable.

  • @user-cf7pe3qg1c
    @user-cf7pe3qg1c Год назад +3

    I love S & E. I watched them every week.
    As for Dumbo....it is a classic for so many reasons. And if you aren't in tears with "Baby mine" scene you might consider checking with your doctor about your heart.

  • @MDK2_Radio
    @MDK2_Radio 3 года назад +9

    These episodes they had to come up with when the studios weren’t releasing films were often the best. I remember one from the 80s when they focused on cliches. One was car chases. They were in every movie whether it made sense or not, they were always crashing into street vendors, and they illustrated their complaint by finding one movie where a NIGHT chase scene still crashed into a fruit stand. 😂

    • @branagain
      @branagain 2 года назад

      That episode is here: ruclips.net/video/Tsvxk1AIM8E/видео.html

  • @deckofcards87
    @deckofcards87 11 месяцев назад +4

    La Dolce Vita is enormously entertaining and interesting. I started on Fellini recently and I regret not doing that earlier. La Strada and Nights of Cabiria are my favourites so far, just amazing movies.

    • @kaiserrino8774
      @kaiserrino8774 10 месяцев назад

      Watch 8 1/2. It's his magnum opus imo.

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat 8 месяцев назад

      Yep - those are his 3 best films, in my opinion. His later films tend to suffer a bit too much from poor narrative structure.

  • @simonfea2
    @simonfea2 Год назад +1

    Tracking! Im old. Im loving these S & E episodes. These guys are great.

  • @leew1598
    @leew1598 2 года назад +3

    For me as a kid I loved Batman (1989), the Star Wars Trilogy, The Wizard of Oz, Indiana Jones all the big Disney films, the Jungle Book, Robin Hood, , Aladdin, Peter Pan, Snow White,
    When I was about 11 though I watched Predator, The Blair Witch Project and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly which blew me away with how good and how adult they were.

  • @user-yj9rk9oz9p
    @user-yj9rk9oz9p 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sigh. I miss Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert so much. They didn't merely tell me, as a teenager, where my limited dollars should go. They taught me how to think about movies individually and about Cinema as an art form. Like many TV programs that began on Public Television, they taught us critical thinking skills.
    Gene and Roger deserved much happier endings to their stories. I would love, love, Love to see a biopic of their lives, including some of their nastier arguments. It would take a Stanley Kubrick or an Orson Welles to properly integrate them into the story of the Cinema. Perhaps Guillermo Del Toro could do them justice, while reminding us why Cinema was so important in our lives.

    • @WilliamLyons-ym7ee
      @WilliamLyons-ym7ee 7 месяцев назад +2

      No movie about them yet, but there is a new biography out on them, a book called “Opposable Thumbs” by Matt Singer.
      Check it out.

    • @raszze
      @raszze 6 месяцев назад

      Isn’t Tarantino making one about him in his new film?

  • @tonk82
    @tonk82 2 года назад +7

    The Turner comment is savage xD

  • @verraque
    @verraque Год назад

    something wonderful about watching two intelligent grown men talking about their passion and what got them there. seeing them light up talking about these movies is special to be recorded

  • @Tirgo69
    @Tirgo69 11 месяцев назад +6

    I love the shot at Ted Turner 😂

  • @ktkat1949
    @ktkat1949 10 месяцев назад

    This was such a great show and these guys were so terrific together. I learned so much about movies from them. (Although who would believe they didn't think much of Butch!!)Sad to think both of them are gone now. Won't see their like again.

  • @reneedennis2011
    @reneedennis2011 3 года назад +8

    Great episode!

  • @kenthunter6850
    @kenthunter6850 3 года назад +3

    What they don't seem to miss as experts, and they are experts, is that most of us aren't. We like what we like for a variety of reasons. Many times great acting and great directors and producers create great art, that everyday Joe's just can't appreciate it. Meanwhile, other more shallow entertainment hits us right in the heart. And that's what makes these shows fun. Both then and now.

    • @jonnybirchyboy1560
      @jonnybirchyboy1560 2 года назад +1

      Idk, I think the idea that “great art” is only reserved for intellectuals is just another myth created by boujee folk. The greatest arts always came from the common people.

  • @clintbronson5
    @clintbronson5 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love you Gene Love you Roger but I also Loved Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

  • @goregrindisthebestgenre
    @goregrindisthebestgenre 4 месяца назад +1

    I MISS THESE TWO!!! 😢😭

  • @bucksdiaryfan
    @bucksdiaryfan 3 года назад +8

    Siskel's written reviews were always more populist in nature -- the everyman point of view, whereas Ebert was a gifted essayist and a bit more intellectual... I love reading his "Great Movies" posts

  • @thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117
    @thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117 3 года назад +4

    Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid was a goofy adventure like Raiders of the Lost Ark more than a Western with something to say like The Searchers or Unforgiven. I think they viewed it too hard through a critic's lens, when it's basically a high budget cartoon. It's also an obvious comedy. Sometimes movies are just made to be fun.

  • @kamuelalee
    @kamuelalee 3 года назад +5

    Great video by two great film critics gone too soon.
    However, both Siskel and Ebert were so, so wrong about the greatness of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" -- my favorite movie as a little boy in the years before 1977's "Star Wars."

  • @VanishedPNW
    @VanishedPNW 3 года назад +7

    "Arm around a girl" sheeeiiit Roger. Mista Big.

    • @TBP1212
      @TBP1212 3 года назад

      Ebert was a real horndog, by all accounts

    • @kamuelalee
      @kamuelalee 3 года назад +2

      @@TBP1212 And Siskel bought Travolta's Saturday Night Fever outfit.

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 2 года назад +1

    These guys were great. Well informed, intelligent and educated in the field they comment on, and always honest. But that was the old days. Now, with the internet, it is so much better. We have adults who play dress up and make 7 hour podcasts about how the latest Star Wars remake was or was not similar to the original. That’s progress.

  • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
    @littlekingtrashmouth9219 11 месяцев назад +2

    When I saw Bonnie and Clyde with my girlfriend in college, we were laughing at it. We got the DVD from the library. We stopped about 3/4 of the way through because it was getting too late. I was the only one who saw the last 20 minutes the following day, which turned the movie from a B movie into a masterpiece. I told her she should’ve watched the ending. Why didn’t she? Good question.

  • @minouche5702
    @minouche5702 Год назад +2

    Love this show

  • @pazza4555
    @pazza4555 11 месяцев назад +4

    Last Tango -- What they didn't know was that Maria Schneider was indeed showing real emotion because she was sexually assaulted on screen. Brando and Bertolucci decided to have Brando do that to get a big emotional response. Schneider's niece has spoken and written about what Schneider went through and how it affected her over time. The tears and begging for Brando to stop was her genuine reaction to the assault. While this was particularly extreme, I've heard way too many stories about actors and directors doing things to women without their permission to provoke a response. Dustin Hoffman did that to Meryl Streep in Kramer vs Kramer when he smashed a glass against a wall, not warning her in advance. He got a reaction all right, scaring her and getting broken glass shards in her hair. Another is Brooke Shields having a director painfully twist her big toe without warning or permission to get her to look like she was having an orgasm in Endless Love. It's all so gross, with Maria Schneider's experience being absolutely horrifying.

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow 10 месяцев назад +1

      1928's Joan of Arc was the mother of all these scenarios. I consider it the best female performance ever, yet everything you see is real due to the sadistic director. It was such a horrific experience she never made another film. ruclips.net/video/uVFcOb9VcAY/видео.html&ab_channel=JoshWinter-OnTheScreen

  • @hungwilliam44
    @hungwilliam44 3 года назад +3

    I remember seeing the Marx Brothers in Go West on TV when I was 6 and the finale on the train blew my mind.

    • @kamuelalee
      @kamuelalee 3 года назад +1

      Marx Brothers were among my favorite as a kid...100 years ago.

  • @ShadowJuanathan
    @ShadowJuanathan 3 года назад +7

    That Ted Turner burn! Wow!

    • @alexstewart839
      @alexstewart839 11 месяцев назад

      I love that he had to fight not to laugh after dropping that bomb.

  • @joesimon2029
    @joesimon2029 2 года назад +3

    My UNpopular opinion movie is (gasp!) "Back to the Future". I hate hate hate that movie. It reminds me of a made-for Sci-Fi channel movie with a little bit bigger budget. I know people that WORSHIP it !

    • @postmodernrecycler
      @postmodernrecycler Год назад +1

      It's fine popcorn entertainment. The kids that obsessed over this movie went on to popularize Marvel movies the last 20 years.

  • @piper888
    @piper888 2 года назад +2

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    POSTING
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  • @HarbingerOfBattle
    @HarbingerOfBattle 7 месяцев назад

    The first movie I remember seeing is not only the first movie I saw in a theater, but the first movie that made a big impression on me. It was Fantasia during it’s rerelease in October 1990. It sparked in me a fascination with orchestral music and big spectacles. The dinosaurs were great of course, but the part that I particularly remember was the Night on Bald Mountain sequence which was a whirlwind of scary imagery that warped my 4 year old mind.

  • @andrewtoole1222
    @andrewtoole1222 Год назад +1

    I love Roger's point that there were no visionaries in Hollywood at that moment. Talk about a great time for Tarantino to come on the scene 3 years later.

  • @kevinmarcus5125
    @kevinmarcus5125 Год назад +1

    I miss the days when we had REAL Film Critics like Siskel & Ebert. I didn’t always agree with them, but they knew and loved film more than any so-called Rotten Tomatoes meter or review! FYI -
    Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid is one of my all time favorites, and even though neither of them liked it, that’s okay. Really sad that they are
    gone as are the days of new and original films.

  • @Mafon2
    @Mafon2 Год назад +1

    What a heartwarming ending.

  • @TheDevilElvisShow
    @TheDevilElvisShow 3 года назад +1

    thanks for fixing the tracking :)

  • @oldcougar65
    @oldcougar65 9 месяцев назад

    "A Day at the Races" - also my first Marx Bros flick at age 8. I laughed for a week. I was from a large family, but my mother and I were the only movie fanatics. I used to take her to the big theaters downtown (now there are no such things.) We went to "The Egyptian" when I was 7. Still remember it. I came home from college 10+ years later and took her to "Those Magnificent men..." My mom loved the movies.
    My brother and I used to go to the creature feature every week at the Tower Theater. 40 cents for 4 bus tickets. 70 cents for two movie seats, 70 cents for 2 hots dogs and 2 orange sodas: Kiddie double feature in the morning, adult double feature in the afternoon. Leave at 9am, be home by 6pm. A great life for 10 year olds. College years, the film that drew me in mentally, emotionally, changed my attitude toward movies: Blow Up

  • @n.w.1803
    @n.w.1803 3 года назад +5

    "..Ted Turner owns MGM now. If he had the Monolith, he'd probably colorize it pink and use it as a desk.."
    Colorize...hahaaa!

  • @Hexon66
    @Hexon66 Год назад +2

    I remember my first impression of Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid being mixed. I like the chemistry between Redford and Newman and some of the goofiness, but the NYC montage really took me out of it. But the biggest issue for me was, what some people seem to love, Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head. I get there's a value to creating incongruity in a period piece, but I just didn't care for it. Same for other films of that era like Kelly's Heroes, which used awkwardly contemporary music for a WWII setting. Funnily enough I think it worked much later on for Tarantino in Inglourious Basterds with the Bowie song. But that was very much integral to the character and situation.

  • @johnfitzpatrick3094
    @johnfitzpatrick3094 2 года назад +1

    I remember watching this episode when it first aired.

  • @wsjustice
    @wsjustice 11 месяцев назад +3

    La Dolce Vida, the moment Ebert turned into a horndog.

    • @65g4
      @65g4 4 месяца назад

      La Dolce Vita not Vida

  • @eargasm1072
    @eargasm1072 3 года назад +3

    Ebert states that 20th century Fox heads walked out of the "Butch Cassidy" screening in silence muttering they didn't understand how this film would make money lol seems the public then felt differently...my take is that a light-hearted, serio-comic Western with the music and lens of its era just went over their heads! It was unlike any Western made then or since

    • @sahej6939
      @sahej6939 Год назад

      lighthearted , def not the old style

  • @realplayer54
    @realplayer54 2 года назад +2

    If they did this show about 8 years later, the negative review that was least popular would have been the Usual Suspects.

  • @jadentrez
    @jadentrez 4 месяца назад

    I loved Butch Cassidy and Sundance the first time or two I saw it. But I noticed that I couldn't watch it anymore after that. A few minutes in and I find myself switching to something else.

  • @meropetied
    @meropetied 9 месяцев назад

    I love how they didn't pull their punches on a classic at the end there. I just wish they had more time with each of these brief essays and analyses. There's so much to say about these interesting moments and movies. It was just the hurried format of the show that had to hurdle them along through so many quick stops, I suppose. Most movies don't require that long to make good points. But I'd have loved to have heard more from them on Butch Cassidy and La Dolce Vita, for instance.

  • @pdxtim97209
    @pdxtim97209 8 месяцев назад

    It's nice to know that the movie that had the biggest impact on me was the same as Gene's: 2001.

  • @stevensatanson
    @stevensatanson 2 месяца назад

    Fascinated by the Butch Cassidy discourse between these two, and here in the comments. I saw it as a teenager (in the 90s) and hated every minute (i can remember) of it. Maybe it was dated by then? Maybe movies like Josey Wales or the wild bunch are more my speed? After seeing their review, I really can't think of a reason to give it another shot.

  • @bencox5994
    @bencox5994 5 месяцев назад

    Just amazing. I miss those guys

  • @TheVagolfer
    @TheVagolfer Год назад +2

    Critics look at movies differently than the average movie goer, they look for the complex messages and symbolism, most people just want to escape the world for a just a while.

  • @Shorty_Lickens
    @Shorty_Lickens Год назад +2

    "So many movies today are bland and safe!"
    Ohhhhh buddy. Wait til you see Bad Lieutenant.

  • @Jim222001
    @Jim222001 2 месяца назад

    I guess I shouldn’t feel bad for never seeing Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I never did because I know how it ends

  • @Casper50002
    @Casper50002 18 дней назад

    Having recently watched No Country for old Men, i really enjoyed it. Ebert liked it. I think Gene would have liked it too, even though Gene seems more "anti - violence"

  • @bucksdiaryfan
    @bucksdiaryfan 3 года назад +3

    If someone is from Chicago during the rise of Siskel and Ebert at their respective papers, how were they viewed by their reading audience prior to becoming or on their way to becoming famous?

    • @jeffcanar7294
      @jeffcanar7294 2 года назад +4

      Great question, and so much to consider. In their early career, there was no internet. No VHS/Beta. No cable (in most places anyway), just OTA analog channels. The only way to know about movies was commercials, trailers or written reviews. Also, as most from Chicago would tell you, you either read the Sun Times or Tribune, but not both. (By then the Chicago Daily News was defunct). So, when you watched these two, you may well have been familiar with how one felt, but you had no idea about the other. The show worked on so many levels. It was a show about movies. It went beyond the trailers and commercials you saw on t.v. It was local PBS, so there were no commercials. Just honest dialog, by two guys, about movies. And they both wrote columns and "starred" in a show that everyone at least knew about, was familiar with, and talked about. Very early in their career they were cultural icons in Chicago before the show was syndicated, and their reviews became more nationally known.

  • @johnwanner1446
    @johnwanner1446 3 года назад +2

    First of all, I love movies, and everything about them. I also respect other peoples opinions and tastes, but for the life of me, I could never understand the appeal of Butch Cassidy. It's just one of those movies that I never warmed up to. It looks like I'm in good company.

  • @malafakka8530
    @malafakka8530 3 года назад

    I disagree with them on Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid but I still enjoy hearing their opinion. Maybe that's what makes a good or great critic.

  • @bencox5994
    @bencox5994 5 месяцев назад

    That jab at Twd Turner😂

  • @lynnturman8157
    @lynnturman8157 11 месяцев назад +3

    Neither Siskel or Ebert liked BUTCH CASSIDY? And I'm just finding this out now? Why the hell did I watch these guys every week for 20 years? Say it ain't so.

    • @malafakka8530
      @malafakka8530 29 дней назад

      It isn't the end of the world and it's okay that they didn't like it.

  • @MSantosMusic
    @MSantosMusic 10 месяцев назад

    Podcast before podcasts.

  • @brianscottmednick235
    @brianscottmednick235 3 года назад +6

    Gene's parents died within the same year and he was raised by his aunt and uncle. Interesting he did not mention this.

  • @johngiles132
    @johngiles132 3 года назад +1

    I really like the posse chase section of "Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid," which lasts around 20-25 minutes, from the moment the posse leaves the train to the moment Butch and Kid jump off the cliff into the river. That's some great adventure. Without that section, however, I find the film not so entertaining.

    • @VegimorphtheMovieBoy
      @VegimorphtheMovieBoy 2 года назад

      Yeah, I just couldn't get into it myself. The Sting I think is a way better movie AND Newman and Redford pairing.

  • @gheller2261
    @gheller2261 Год назад +1

    I don’t care for Butch Cassidy either for the same reasons as Gene.

  • @jedijones
    @jedijones 3 года назад +2

    IMDB says the original air date of this is 11/12/1988. I'm going to guess it was rerun in 1989 too.

    • @andyfilm5785
      @andyfilm5785  3 года назад +4

      Every date I list is from my own tape's recording, approximated.

    • @7Jstamper
      @7Jstamper 3 года назад +2

      Cut the guy a break on the dates. Jesus. He’s uploading so much great stuff and has brought me so much joy being able to rewatch these from my childhood. I thought these were lost to time. It just seems so petty to bust his balls on the date. Who gives a shit? You should just be saying thank you, so Andy, just wanted to say here, thanks so much and keep up the good work. I watch your channel more than any others.

  • @djtforever1414
    @djtforever1414 2 года назад +3

    These guys were complaining how much films had devolved by 1989. 2022 could not hope to match 1989 films.

    • @Al_NERi
      @Al_NERi Год назад +1

      If S&E weren't both already deceased they would probably have retired by now simply due to the lack of anything worth reviewing. Cinema is a dead art form.

    • @at1212b
      @at1212b 10 месяцев назад

      In fairness, 80s was bad. 90s had a lot of freshness like Tarantino, Cohen Brothers, Scorecesi made a 'comeback'. Speilberg got his 2nd wind.

  • @benskelly8892
    @benskelly8892 6 месяцев назад

    RIP both of them…but they were sooooo wrong about “Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid”

  • @johnbrowne2170
    @johnbrowne2170 11 месяцев назад +1

    They both took Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid way too seriously.
    I never failed to see a movie they both liked. However, I loved Butch Cassidy.

  • @dhfes9735
    @dhfes9735 Год назад

    imdb评分8.6绝对的经典节目

  • @todd3563
    @todd3563 Год назад

    I don't think Roger had a funny bone but I do like watching Siskel and Ebert.

  • @notsure1277
    @notsure1277 3 года назад +3

    If I had to name one film as the greatest ever, then I would probably say 2001.

    • @shazid1891
      @shazid1891 3 года назад +1

      Shining is the best movie of all time, period.

    • @notsure1277
      @notsure1277 3 года назад +1

      @@shazid1891 Well, The Shining was good, but it was almost the same film as 2001.

    • @shazid1891
      @shazid1891 3 года назад +1

      @@notsure1277 what do you mean it was the same it is two very different movies, not the same at all in anyway, none of Kubrick’s films are the same

    • @notsure1277
      @notsure1277 3 года назад

      @@shazid1891 Well, have you actually watched 2001? The whole movie? If not, then I would recommend that you do. The parallels between 2001 and The Shining are very obvious.

    • @shazid1891
      @shazid1891 3 года назад +1

      @@notsure1277 Ofc I have watched 2001, why do you think I am stating something if I had not watched the movie it self, but what do you even mean with that they are similar movies, the story is different, the timeline is different, the genre is different, the characters are different. So no, they are not similar in anyway.

  • @timothylangston3560
    @timothylangston3560 11 месяцев назад

    Dumbo?
    Wow.
    Surprised Ebert didn't balk at the Black caricatures with the Crows.

  • @oldfashionedguy1368
    @oldfashionedguy1368 3 года назад +3

    I've always found their opinions on Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid quite controversial.

    • @toucansam3
      @toucansam3 3 года назад +1

      Probably my favorite movie of the 60's. I don't understand what about it they could have hated so much.

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 года назад

      @@toucansam3 it's the Western for those who don't even like or appreciate Western films...I don't get it either. Yet Ebert seems to have loved "the Sting"....both are great in my book

    • @richardcanedo1614
      @richardcanedo1614 3 года назад

      I respect both of these critics very much, but what they disliked so much about Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid baffles me. (I will try to look up their original reviews, if they're out there someplace.) I mean, I get if they didn't LOVE it, maybe, but why such antipathy? In addition to a script that I think is great, a wonderful sense of humor throughout the film, and great chemistry between Newman and Redford, it also essentially invented a new genre, the "buddy picture," that endures to this day.

    • @toucansam3
      @toucansam3 3 года назад

      @@eargasm1072 That definitely describes me as I am not a fan of Westerns but love that film. I wasn't a fan of The Sting, always felt it was an extremely overrated film.

  • @TTM9691
    @TTM9691 2 года назад +2

    Great episode......and, as usual, I'm yelling at both of these guys: "Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid" is great!

  • @jjbeerj
    @jjbeerj 10 месяцев назад

    I, too, have wondered the appeal of Butch & Sundance.

  • @timothylangston3560
    @timothylangston3560 11 месяцев назад

    Use that tracking button!
    Lol.
    Vhs/Vrc tech as legit as it gets!

  • @WaitingtoHit
    @WaitingtoHit 4 дня назад

    Raisinets: Use as directed.

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez 8 месяцев назад

    The ape scenes in 2001 make me feel embarrassed I’m their ancestor.

  • @garytruthteller2606
    @garytruthteller2606 2 месяца назад

    I miss the guys, but their bashing of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - Way off, fellas. One of the most quotable movies ever - (plus).

  • @MilesBellas
    @MilesBellas 26 дней назад

    The destruction of props and models from 2001 was deliberate.
    Private ownership of 2001 models would have been awful for the producers.
    The goal was to create mystery.

  • @derekwatchesmovies
    @derekwatchesmovies Год назад +1

    Haha this is great!

  • @hungwilliam44
    @hungwilliam44 3 года назад +4

    It was interesting when Roger talked about his anger at Blue Velvet...check out his review of Kids in the Hall Brain Candy. He was REALLY angry at that movie. I'll bet it had something to do with the Cancer Boy bit in the movie and the fact Gene had brain cancer. Also Brain Candy/brain cancer.

    • @sahej6939
      @sahej6939 Год назад

      but it’s not interesting

  • @ErnestIII83
    @ErnestIII83 Год назад +6

    Interesting Ebert didn't have a problem with Last Tango In Paris but criticized Blue Velvet for (among other things) feeling that Rossellini was probably forced to do things in it that she didn't really want to do.

    • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
      @littlekingtrashmouth9219 11 месяцев назад

      Exactly. In the interviews, she seemed to be on board and giving ideas. If it were that bad, she’d have walked off set

    • @ghr8184
      @ghr8184 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think - I could be wrong about this - that the really troubling behind-the-scenes stuff on Last Tango wasn't common knowledge until years later. I don't think the actress spoke out right away. Ebert might not have been aware of that. But, yes, it is an interesting contrast since Rossellini didn't feel upset by Blue Velvet, but Maria Schneider did.

  • @mournblade1066
    @mournblade1066 3 года назад +11

    Blue Velvet is an amazing film. I'm sorry, but Ebert totally dropped the ball on that review.

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 года назад

      Roger seems to have had a particular aversion to David Lynch's films, style and imagery lol

    • @josephine1465
      @josephine1465 3 года назад +3

      @@eargasm1072 He loves Mulholland Drive though.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 3 года назад +2

      @@josephine1465 And The Straight Story.

    • @sahej6939
      @sahej6939 Год назад

      It stinks