RZA gets confronted for using samples in his beats - WU TANG: AN AMERICAN SAGA

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  • @NUK4_K1N6_LXIX
    @NUK4_K1N6_LXIX 7 месяцев назад +39

    Rakim said it best in ‘88 “Don't understand? Here's an example
    On why MCs and DJs sample
    'Cause we don't have a band, it's just my voice and his hands
    That's what hip-hop was, it still stands
    The records we use are from mom and pop's collection
    Find a break from a dope selection
    And go to the store, then buy one more
    So my DJ can mix 'cause that's what his hands are for”

    • @duderistdude6466
      @duderistdude6466 7 месяцев назад +8

      Or when Kane said
      "We sample beats, you sue and try to fight us
      Man, you still be home with arthritis!
      If we didn't revive em, bring back alive
      Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive
      You'd be another memory to us
      Ashes to ashes and dust to dust"

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад +2

      I said It best when I said "rap is not music, it's just some guy talking over music" the cringiest rap is the new York stuff,

    • @kasheem1747
      @kasheem1747 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah I get it but that doesn’t make it right no matter how you rap it

    • @kasheem1747
      @kasheem1747 7 месяцев назад

      @@duderistdude6466 excuses!

  • @NoiseMaker231
    @NoiseMaker231 7 месяцев назад +74

    If people flipping samples puts you out of business you're not a good musician either lol

    • @champagnelp4243
      @champagnelp4243 7 месяцев назад +14

      said perfectly.

    • @KjtheGreatPro
      @KjtheGreatPro 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@champagnelp4243 yeah but it is lazy, sloppy work. If you wrote a hit and then 20 years later some one hit wonder samples you. Youd feel a little like, what the fuck man?

    • @champagnelp4243
      @champagnelp4243 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@KjtheGreatPro no I wouldn't, I'm actually a musician myself, I'd be happy if someone sampled my work, as long as I get my royalties.

    • @lotusberry725
      @lotusberry725 7 месяцев назад

      @@KjtheGreatProlong as i’m paid, i couldn’t care less. art is alot more about what u get out of it rather than what i put into it in my opinion. the fact u can hear my song that i had my own intentions with and completely flip it to how you perceive my sounds is beautiful, it’s like my arts having kids. music isn’t always business, i wish ppl understood that.

  • @BIGZphillybirdfan
    @BIGZphillybirdfan 5 месяцев назад +66

    Samples keep old music alive.. if it weren’t for samples I would not love Hip Hop music, if It weren’t for samples I wouldn’t know who Labi Siffre is, I wouldn’t know most the 60s music I listen to everyday, I wouldn’t know most the 70s music I know… the problem I have with sample, is when they let the mumble rappers with no voice “rap” on a song with an amazing sample, that’s disrespectful to the artist you sampled from.. stop allowing the trash mumble rappers with no voice and nothing to say rap on a sampled beat.. if you can’t match the greatness of the artist you are sampling from, then you’re disrespecting that other artist

  • @freakyfred8366
    @freakyfred8366 7 месяцев назад +43

    If someone made a drawing and tore it apart into tiny pieces then glued it back together into something similar or completely different, it is still ART.

  • @anti-parasocial
    @anti-parasocial 7 месяцев назад +46

    One reason Hip-Hop is my favorite genre of music is because it got me into so many other genres through sampling, if it wasn't for hip-hop I probably would be as into jazz as I am, funk, and a lot of individual musicians from which I liked a sample so much I had to hear the source material.
    I don't even get mad at the people who say hip-hop is uncreative and unoriginal for sampling, but I can't stand it when someone claims producers and rappers "steal" beats besides a few rare instances where royalties weren't paid, I know these people don't know what they're talking about when they don't know that samples have to be cleared and royalties have to paid and besides a few tight ass musicians and their estates, most of them don't care and appreciate it especially if it's produces something good and they get their royalties.

    • @JackieBillyTom
      @JackieBillyTom 7 месяцев назад

      they steal, and they steal because they cant do it themselves, deal with it

    • @austinjones9171
      @austinjones9171 7 месяцев назад +1

      @tommybillyjack5051 Innovation is often born out of restriction and necessity

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад +2

      Hip hop is lame and always will be, it's easily my worst genre

    • @gregc7699
      @gregc7699 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@FiveDORRA why the fuck you watching a hip hop video if you hate it so much then 🤔🤣

    • @morreddie717
      @morreddie717 6 месяцев назад

      @@FiveDORRA Listen to Sing about me then

  • @gregc7699
    @gregc7699 7 месяцев назад +81

    Sampling is an art form in itself

    • @MrRudyc85
      @MrRudyc85 7 месяцев назад +8

      It is there’s this group on Facebook that breaks down the samples used in the songs. How it’s separated, slowed down, sped up, rearranged that’s skill

    • @JackieBillyTom
      @JackieBillyTom 7 месяцев назад +3

      if you cant play an instrument it makes sense that sampling would seem artistic to you

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад +3

      Taking a dump is considered artwork too

    • @madkrixna
      @madkrixna 7 месяцев назад +7

      Just watch a j Dilla doc, if any one can't see the skill they are ignorant. Sampling is like being an editor or conductor. It takes an ear and an understanding of arrangement. Not just some long format loop. But cutting , rearranging, layering etc.

    • @gregc7699
      @gregc7699 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@madkrixna also I tell anyone who doesn't believe it is an art form to listen to Entroducing by DJ Shadow a sample masterpiece

  • @obamastolemyvcr1446
    @obamastolemyvcr1446 6 месяцев назад +23

    That dude didn’t even make sense
    He says you’re putting people like him out of work right after he was told he hires people, like him, to play the guitar for him

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann 6 месяцев назад

      Nah he said “he could hire someone” to play it for him if he wanted to hear it- but doesn’t need it.

    • @JaredGivens1
      @JaredGivens1 6 месяцев назад +3

      "I could hire someone"
      "Yeah problem is you don't"
      The reply makes sense, he's dismissing his "I could" to make the point that he doesn't.

    • @thefrog4990
      @thefrog4990 5 месяцев назад +1

      lol as if he was ever in work ain’t nobody care about him

  • @SMP2390
    @SMP2390 10 месяцев назад +81

    Funny cause now a drum machine MPC is considered an instrument in it's own right

    • @omnibusification
      @omnibusification 9 месяцев назад +4

      lol no

    • @philliphouse104
      @philliphouse104 9 месяцев назад +26

      lol yes
      @@omnibusification

    • @willh7352
      @willh7352 8 месяцев назад +4

      ArabMusic is a great example of this

    • @morreddie717
      @morreddie717 7 месяцев назад +1

      Got proof?

    • @avace917
      @avace917 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@morreddie717watch any MPC finger drumming video and you'll see what they mean

  • @savagerez4123
    @savagerez4123 7 месяцев назад +28

    How is he out of work when RZA literally just said he'd pay him?

  • @johndoe6416
    @johndoe6416 7 месяцев назад +43

    old niggas always hatin.

    • @thecollector6746
      @thecollector6746 7 месяцев назад +4

      That's all we got!! HATE HATE HATE!!!!

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад +1

      Either hating or preaching about Jesus

  • @waffletube5707
    @waffletube5707 7 месяцев назад +21

    Damn, I can’t believe they had a film crew there to document this. Respect

  • @SDSOverfiend
    @SDSOverfiend 7 месяцев назад +14

    Willie Mitchell ain’t complaining. He eating good.

  • @nausicaa8179
    @nausicaa8179 6 месяцев назад +27

    This guy was the worst actor they could’ve gotten

    • @michaelmercury1297
      @michaelmercury1297 6 месяцев назад +5

      Which one? They were all bad.

    • @DrVonNostrand
      @DrVonNostrand 6 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah it's a shame what they did

    • @RellyRell-ud3iz
      @RellyRell-ud3iz 6 месяцев назад +1

      Lol sounded nothing like rza

    • @mikechoe97
      @mikechoe97 6 месяцев назад +3

      Ye he didn't even attempt to do the RZA's Brooklyn accent. I think he only landed this role because Moonlight was so acclaimed.

  • @TigerPalmer
    @TigerPalmer 6 месяцев назад +21

    And the Academy Award goes to... none of these actors.

  • @CaptainBackslap22
    @CaptainBackslap22 6 месяцев назад +22

    “A slide what?” The line makes it seem like RZA never hear the word guitar before. Such cheesy writing/acting 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @RellyRell-ud3iz
      @RellyRell-ud3iz 6 месяцев назад +1

      Fr tho

    • @LightSpeedRecords
      @LightSpeedRecords 6 месяцев назад +1

      “A slide guitar” ain’t common known but ok L take

    • @theuniversejr
      @theuniversejr 6 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah it wouldve made better sense for him to say "a what guitar?" Lol

    • @C4LBHitmarkers
      @C4LBHitmarkers 6 месяцев назад

      I feel Ike you’re overthinking it lol

    • @theuniversejr
      @theuniversejr 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@C4LBHitmarkers idk bro his choice of words made it seem like he didn't understand what a guitar was

  • @mojito6629
    @mojito6629 7 месяцев назад +14

    If sampler was available in 1700, probably Bach too would like to use it to make music

  • @Warrentertainment
    @Warrentertainment 7 месяцев назад +16

    My man just looking for a job, but he going about it the wrong way.

  • @theartist359
    @theartist359 6 месяцев назад +17

    Where there's a successful black hip hop artist, there's 1000 black hating mf'ers ready to bring him down.
    --DMX, probably

  • @ItsNotJustRice
    @ItsNotJustRice 11 месяцев назад +656

    bro is mad at bro for hiring musicians and creating jobs.

    • @gillroygarlic3616
      @gillroygarlic3616 11 месяцев назад +102

      “For hiring ‘other’ musicians” . If it was him offered that job he’d change his jaded tone quick 😆

    • @thedopegems
      @thedopegems 9 месяцев назад +25

      @@gillroygarlic3616 Yepp, that's true, the oldhead would be fake as hell

    • @shutapp9958
      @shutapp9958 8 месяцев назад +20

      That was an obvious critique of the mostly wrong, yet existing issue that producers only copy-paste and edit music, which, according to that guy, doesn't need instrument players and drives them out of their jobs. In reality, producers are always in need of this one sound that they can't find anywhere else and will get to instrument players.

    • @strafer8764
      @strafer8764 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@shutapp9958 not in rap. Very few rap albums have live instrumentation or original arrangements especially from the east coast.

    • @morreddie717
      @morreddie717 7 месяцев назад +8

      Oh yeah, what about albums like midnight marauders, the chronic, good kid maad city and to pimp a butterfly, hell even the wu's first album had live instrumentation, if the asr 10, sp1200 and mpc aren't instruments, then what is then?

  • @inspireabundance
    @inspireabundance 6 месяцев назад +39

    I cant get passed the fact that that actor was chosen to play the RZA😂😂😂

    • @richtenamore9718
      @richtenamore9718 6 месяцев назад +15

      Yea there like zero resemblance

    • @jonathanhughes2199
      @jonathanhughes2199 6 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@richtenamore9718doesn't even talk or act like Rza either

    • @kevinseveneleven
      @kevinseveneleven 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jonathanhughes2199 which is so bizarre to me, RZA has a unique voice and in the 90s was a very different type of cat, he created THE sounds and for like 5 years straight he was almost exclusively producing everything for the Wu. I wonder was it too hard to cast for? Or they just didn't really try

    • @yOGlo
      @yOGlo 4 месяца назад +2

      He is a good actor but ya he doesn't really look like rza

    • @yOGlo
      @yOGlo 4 месяца назад

      Yall should also peep LZA n TZA if yall like hip hop n rap

  • @HorribleHomeVideo
    @HorribleHomeVideo 7 месяцев назад +45

    "a slide what?" (rza never heard the word guitar before)

    • @terrycullen3302
      @terrycullen3302 7 месяцев назад +9

      That's just bad writing.

    • @piccolo9365
      @piccolo9365 7 месяцев назад +4

      RZA is so afraid of that word after the Guitar Center incident that even the guy portraying him can’t even say it

    • @77Productions77
      @77Productions77 7 месяцев назад

      Nah it was just his first time hearing about it.

  • @henryzhao4622
    @henryzhao4622 7 месяцев назад +18

    The thing is they’re both right in a way.

  • @SuchandSuchMaui
    @SuchandSuchMaui 7 месяцев назад +23

    Bad actors bad writing bad directors

    • @projectmayhem4376
      @projectmayhem4376 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@user-gb6xs1re1s😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @projectmayhem4376
      @projectmayhem4376 7 месяцев назад

      I think he was better in all day and a night

  • @damoncolquhoun
    @damoncolquhoun 7 месяцев назад +12

    Funny how people never seem to question Rick Rubin, David Geffen, or Jimmy Lovine (3 mega producers who don't play instruments) in the same way.

    • @morreddie717
      @morreddie717 7 месяцев назад +5

      That's probably because they're white.

  • @morrisalanisette9067
    @morrisalanisette9067 6 месяцев назад +12

    this is so bad its like watching something they'd show you in school about not doing drugs

  • @conemen1
    @conemen1 7 месяцев назад +19

    that's really funny they put this in the show; this interaction is why RZA's production (to some) went to absolute shit past the 90's. a damn shame because he of all people should know that sampling is an art just as playing music is. oh well, i like some Bobby Dig shit

  • @richtenamore9718
    @richtenamore9718 6 месяцев назад +16

    Me still bumpin Wu in 2023 also says different

    • @yOGlo
      @yOGlo 4 месяца назад

      2024 🙌💯🔥

  • @sl156im
    @sl156im 7 месяцев назад +21

    The interesting thing is they’re both right.

  • @kano--
    @kano-- 7 месяцев назад +20

    this acting is so unserious

    • @nofood1
      @nofood1 6 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DEANDRE_DTS
      @DEANDRE_DTS 6 месяцев назад

      No only the RZA actor is bad

  • @austinjones9171
    @austinjones9171 7 месяцев назад +21

    the idea thats somebody would still be able to create good music without being able to play it manually really upsets some people I see lol

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад +1

      Rap is not good music, it's just some guy talking over "beats" that's All it is

    • @gregc7699
      @gregc7699 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@FiveDORRA when's your record coming out then? Don't speak on something you don't understand just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's crap

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад

      @@gregc7699 so I can't criticise anything? Great mindset 🤡

    • @anarchistponcho8689
      @anarchistponcho8689 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@FiveDORRAHaving an opinion about something isn't really criticism. Rap is music, whether you believe it is or not, and if you're gonna get mad over a little clap back to your opinion, then you need to touch some grass, fam. Rap follows music theory, but to some, it's more akin to Spoken Word, which you could argue isn't music but poetry.
      What I just did? That's criticism.

    • @bigmacattack7747
      @bigmacattack7747 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@anarchistponcho8689Nah thats constructive criticism/critique.
      Criticism is still criticism when some random dude thinks something sucks.
      Thats why its called a "critical opinion"

  • @razmatazz9310
    @razmatazz9310 7 месяцев назад +11

    "Slide guitar"
    - "Slide WHAT?"
    lol.

  • @digi_tv
    @digi_tv 7 месяцев назад +10

    A master producer can sample and chop any musicians song into multiple dope beats. Unrecognizable and rearranged over chopped up breakbeats. Most if not all successful producers also play instruments and DJ also.

  • @alexandredoyen8227
    @alexandredoyen8227 7 месяцев назад +11

    the path to music mastery takes many different roads. creativity and making music that speaks to people's soul is what matters. HIP HOP is a way that youths in the inner city carved out to escape an oppresive environment and a lack of ressources. graffiti = using the environment to create art / break dancing = using your body to stay fit / hip hop - djing = using whatever equipment you have to create music without having instruments or music theory lessons. this form of expression has taken over the world. you can start with sampling it will lead you on a journey where you will discover many genres of music, open your mind and expand your taste and appreciation. I started with sampling, collecting records then moved to jazz and I am now learning music theory via the piano. I have a whole new level of appreciation not just for jazz giants and their legacy but also for the heroes of my youth: Peter Rock - DITC - Primo and also more recent producers Dilla - Madlib - Alc - DOOM etc... enjoy the journey and remember that: " If you can't pull it, all ya gotta do is Push it along, push it along"

  • @THEANIMALCHIEF
    @THEANIMALCHIEF 7 месяцев назад +18

    if people wanna go with the take "if you sample, then you're not making music" then my take is "if you don't sample, then you're not making HIP-HOP"

    • @jaydee7459
      @jaydee7459 7 месяцев назад +2

      facts

    • @fxlkpunkrapper
      @fxlkpunkrapper 7 месяцев назад +3

      100% agree. those piano beats are soulless

    • @scienz
      @scienz 7 месяцев назад

      oofah

    • @lrnr466
      @lrnr466 6 месяцев назад

      yeah thats the whole point i just dont get. most Hip-Hop beats were made from samples. if there was no sampling it would literally just be bum tss tss for every single beat.

    • @rikkidgermano9640
      @rikkidgermano9640 6 месяцев назад +1

      And that's the beauty of it because of the samples, I got into the other artists catalogue.

  • @al_helperin
    @al_helperin 6 месяцев назад +22

    Christ, this was actually aired? It's like something you'd find in the depths of Tubi.

  • @sweetdaddylove
    @sweetdaddylove 7 месяцев назад +18

    Hip hop was created on sampling

    • @DocKaosBeats
      @DocKaosBeats 7 месяцев назад +3

      Facts and nice profile pic lol 😎

    • @sweetdaddylove
      @sweetdaddylove 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@DocKaosBeats right on lol

  • @youtubeistrash2347
    @youtubeistrash2347 7 месяцев назад +8

    If your making music it's music dosnt matter the style or the way you made it so long as that hits deep and you can vibe n move your feet.

  • @kixtonjordan9521
    @kixtonjordan9521 7 месяцев назад +14

    The wig tho😂😂

  • @miguelesteban5768
    @miguelesteban5768 9 месяцев назад +16

    Dude here looked like Popa Wu. At first, i thought that was the direction they were going for since he said he did like his records, but nope, he jus a lowkey hater OG 😂😭

  • @mont-doggBeats
    @mont-doggBeats 10 месяцев назад +17

    Can the dude hating even really play an instrument good. They shoulda had Rza put him on the spot. I mean they added extra stuff to the wu story shoulda had rza hand him the guitar 😂😂

  • @nomoriplex
    @nomoriplex 6 месяцев назад +18

    Tf is this acting💀

  • @TMthe33rd
    @TMthe33rd 8 месяцев назад +20

    He could have just shown his musical skills to RZA, instead of hating like that
    And get credited along the way

    • @MichaelHemotoxin
      @MichaelHemotoxin 7 месяцев назад +1

      Right there in the music lmao

    • @waffletube5707
      @waffletube5707 7 месяцев назад +1

      Actually, later Rza ended up hiring him and they’re best friends now.

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад

      TMthe33rd you don't understand how movie's/TV work do u knucklehead?

  • @ARose47
    @ARose47 6 месяцев назад +12

    They def rushed season 2 bro what's this 😭

  • @karlosman6265
    @karlosman6265 6 месяцев назад +24

    As a Wu fan I literally can not watch this show, its corny and this guy playing RZA is actually terrible!! Looks nothing like him and sounds like a robot when he talks and respectfully they should have gave ODBs son some acting lessons and let him play his dad

    • @Hellwyck
      @Hellwyck 6 месяцев назад

      Well done, you know what literally means... unless you usually metaphorically watch movies.

    • @karlosman6265
      @karlosman6265 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Hellwyck Behave yourself

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 6 месяцев назад

      @@HellwyckPretty sure this is a show bud

  • @gehnzou1
    @gehnzou1 7 месяцев назад +13

    Anyone can play music
    Only artists can shape it

  • @Barrythebarnabas
    @Barrythebarnabas 7 месяцев назад +22

    Nah geezers refusing to adapt is what puts them outta work lmao

    • @presidentpotato222
      @presidentpotato222 7 месяцев назад +1

      Gheezers want to get paid ..

    • @jrobbin24
      @jrobbin24 7 месяцев назад +1

      They don’t want the next generation to lose out on the best joys in life.

  • @joshuaDstarks
    @joshuaDstarks 6 месяцев назад +24

    RZA doesn’t sound like an African DMX.

  • @emmanuelvelasco7876
    @emmanuelvelasco7876 7 месяцев назад +9

    I would lose my mind seeing an uopened 3000 box. You kidding me!!!!

  • @mikeoley13
    @mikeoley13 6 месяцев назад +13

    Whoa, I had no idea this show existed. This was trippy to watch with no context.

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 5 месяцев назад

      lol. Lucky u

    • @yOGlo
      @yOGlo 4 месяца назад

      ​@@newagain9964 how is he lucky ??

    • @alkoholic3216
      @alkoholic3216 3 месяца назад +1

      @@yOGlobecause he gets to watch it now fresh.

  • @phil4ril
    @phil4ril 9 дней назад +4

    Is this the same guitar center he made the beat thang beat?

  • @austinjones9171
    @austinjones9171 7 месяцев назад +14

    “a slide what?” Lol has he never heard of a guitar

  • @_rorshack__
    @_rorshack__ 5 месяцев назад +18

    Mpc 3000 is classic! Man I want one so bad

    • @RexDaRaindog
      @RexDaRaindog 5 месяцев назад +4

      just so you know as someone as used it for a while it's a pain in the ass to learn but when you master it it's kind magic 💫

    • @91Definite
      @91Definite 5 месяцев назад +2

      MPC 2000 I would love to have but that shit is money 😞

    • @SergioMartinez-el8kg
      @SergioMartinez-el8kg 4 месяца назад

      @@91Definiteget a job bum

    • @91Definite
      @91Definite Месяц назад

      @@SergioMartinez-el8kg get off my dick migo

    • @phil4ril
      @phil4ril 9 дней назад

      @@91Definite 2000s are the cheapest. I got one for 500 bucks

  • @cowboyquebecanimations3068
    @cowboyquebecanimations3068 2 месяца назад +9

    How many people listend to Do for love after hearing it from Pac, or Weak at the Knees from Dre like my guy they were the first generation of rappers they didnt have anyone else other than themselves like with what RUN DMC would do

  • @EpyonRoyal
    @EpyonRoyal 6 месяцев назад +10

    he got emotional and left his slide guitar? I was trying to hear that on an ODB track.

  • @guiltyuntilproveninnocent.
    @guiltyuntilproveninnocent. 7 месяцев назад +12

    Big difference between a musician and a producer.

    • @NeoAndersonChannel1
      @NeoAndersonChannel1 7 месяцев назад

      Yea but do you even know it? Can you discern which one would be the greater "artist" ?

    • @guiltyuntilproveninnocent.
      @guiltyuntilproveninnocent. 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@NeoAndersonChannel1 That’s a matter of opinion. If you can only play one or two instruments your talent is limited to that degree. Playing an instrument is a physical act, while producing music is mental. Then you have artists that play instruments and produce…

    • @jaymays8800
      @jaymays8800 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@guiltyuntilproveninnocent. Prince comes to mind when it comes to playing and producing. ... J

    • @scripteaze
      @scripteaze 7 месяцев назад

      you are speaking to mostly ignorant people here, dont expect too much

    • @antonioHR23
      @antonioHR23 6 месяцев назад

      in that case, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jnr, Bing Crosby, Judy Garland, Ella Fitzgerald and thousands of others are not musicians either. Ignorance is alive and well in this world@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent.

  • @0oidiedinatimemachineo024
    @0oidiedinatimemachineo024 7 месяцев назад +11

    The thing about lotta old rock dudes is they don't even like innovative rock music or rock music that tries anything new they themselves are still stuck on classic rock (or whatever era they grew up in) and think thats peak music but then they want to talk about other genres of music when they don't even embrace new things in their own music. Boring old boomers. Don't listen to them.

  • @isaiahsmith1944
    @isaiahsmith1944 6 месяцев назад +8

    I swear people watched this and wanted violence not an actual saga on how wutang was created this show was for the fans and rza knew that he made it in his styles

  • @Supreme896
    @Supreme896 27 дней назад +5

    My cousin saw him few years ago at a record shop like this in nyc

  • @ernestocaro9802
    @ernestocaro9802 6 месяцев назад +30

    Music is harmony, rhythm, vocals, etc I don’t get people whom say Rap ain’t music

    • @hemsmooth
      @hemsmooth 6 месяцев назад +2

      Not to be a prick but it's "who", I can't help myself.

    • @ernestocaro9802
      @ernestocaro9802 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@hemsmooth you are not a prick, I appreciate the correction, english is not my first language so any correction is always welcome, thanks!

    • @NaptownClassic
      @NaptownClassic 6 месяцев назад +4

      That wasn't the argument the OG in this was making though. He didn't condemn Rap as not being music. He was specifically claiming that sampling doesn't make you a musician.
      He is wrong, of course. It takes a different KIND of skill, for sure. But it really isn't much different than claiming that a film editor isn't a director or screenwriter.

    • @logik200
      @logik200 3 месяца назад +1

      @@NaptownClassic Correct, it's a different kind of skill. Adrian Younge said it in a panel discussion some years ago...Those who are good at it (sampling), are musicians and the sampler is their instrument...

  • @liothomasart
    @liothomasart 7 месяцев назад +6

    Damn can make me get my Purple Haze cd out of the box!

  • @MikeLaRock88
    @MikeLaRock88 7 месяцев назад +10

    This is depressing

  • @mike902
    @mike902 6 месяцев назад +21

    Glad i didnt bother with this. Looks so bad it seems like it was made here in canada.

    • @mikechoe97
      @mikechoe97 6 месяцев назад +7

      Ye the actor didn't even attempt to sound like RZA

    • @joeroberts2156
      @joeroberts2156 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mikechoe97it's true where's the croakiness?the Brooklyn type accent? etc

    • @dylanjordan4747
      @dylanjordan4747 6 месяцев назад +1

      i watched 4 or 5 eps, it’s not great

    • @wayback1010
      @wayback1010 6 месяцев назад

      ay man a lotta good shit is made here in canada u ignorant shit

  • @DEATHBYPROXYY
    @DEATHBYPROXYY 6 месяцев назад +25

    Always a old black dude hating on a young dude getting it

    • @zoo05zoo
      @zoo05zoo Месяц назад +1

      That's not hating. He's telling him about the music. That's like saying Ghost and Rae were hating on Biggie for biting on Nas.

    • @chuckn4851
      @chuckn4851 11 дней назад

      @@zoo05zoo Bro straight up told RZA he wasn't a musician and he was stealing music. That's hating.

    • @zoo05zoo
      @zoo05zoo 11 дней назад

      @@chuckn4851, he was sampling beats without giving credit. Pointing that out isn't hating. That's telling someone what they are doing.

  • @bigbosshoss2901
    @bigbosshoss2901 11 месяцев назад +69

    tale as old as time oldheads tahmbout something they dont understand

    • @nicktubara
      @nicktubara 7 месяцев назад +2

      Me trying to read your comment tf is tahmbout?

    • @bigbosshoss2901
      @bigbosshoss2901 7 месяцев назад

      @@nicktubara tahmbout deez

    • @FiveDORRA
      @FiveDORRA 7 месяцев назад

      I suppose you alphabet youngsters know everything?

    • @bigbosshoss2901
      @bigbosshoss2901 7 месяцев назад

      ur mom knows deez @@FiveDORRA

    • @ljj734
      @ljj734 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@nicktubarabro why do ppl like u gotta troll

  • @kaylons
    @kaylons 7 месяцев назад +10

    Unfortunately, music is treated like a job rather than an actual art (yay economics). You don't _have_ to learn how to play the instruments you are lifting, sampling, what have you. And fighting over who is a "real" musician just invalidates somebody else's work bc of short-sightedness. Snobbery doesnt get you anywhere either, bc you think you're better than someone based on an arbritarily valued skill someone else can dunk on you for.
    Sampling is instrumentation, but in a new way. Learn how to sample is a skill much like learning the guitar. A controller IS an instrument, full stop. You build your knowledge of music theory using a sampler/controller, and theory is also part of culture too. Hip hop from Black musicians/producers came from urban life, social situations, discrimination, prejudice, generational trauma... but also values coming from your family and those surrounding you.
    Paying musicians to play on your project is also an industry standard. Session work is a real and valid thing to do, and some famous musicians are/were/did session work. And without hip hop, sampling wouldnt have been used and widespread.
    Just another way to do music. Both the geezer and RZA are musicians. Not one or the other.

  • @darthryder6744
    @darthryder6744 6 месяцев назад +13

    why are all the comments so recent lmao

    • @ARose47
      @ARose47 6 месяцев назад +1

      😭😭

    • @asamonte
      @asamonte 6 месяцев назад +1

      👁

  • @djBangzWell
    @djBangzWell 7 месяцев назад +21

    I like the idea of it ….its just the execution of this series is all bad. It’s just not believable.

  • @Gmenpg
    @Gmenpg 6 месяцев назад +7

    why didn't they have Rza talk like the RZA.. Kinda talks like a baby.

  • @Mega866
    @Mega866 7 месяцев назад +14

    Who casted this cat as RZA? Not even close looking like a skinnny xibit

    • @nikoxsaint
      @nikoxsaint 7 месяцев назад +7

      he dont even look like xzibit either lmao

    • @Bj-re4wt
      @Bj-re4wt 7 месяцев назад +2

      I believe RZA himself had a big part in casting

    • @Mega866
      @Mega866 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bj-re4wteven worse.

    • @Inspirmentalist
      @Inspirmentalist 7 месяцев назад

      this made me lol lmfao

  • @deltahomicide9300
    @deltahomicide9300 6 месяцев назад +15

    Are Sam Ash employees friendlier than Guitar centers? You start fiddling with an mpc at guitar center they hover over you like hurry up and buy

    • @rbrivers1731
      @rbrivers1731 6 месяцев назад

      They not like that in my city!

    • @jduke93
      @jduke93 6 месяцев назад

      Mpc 500$ you pay now

  • @CubensisEnjoyer
    @CubensisEnjoyer 6 месяцев назад +7

    "That's not RZA" and "this not real Wu" my brother in christ, RZA created the show. I blame it on him and the producers, I think he focused too much on the wrong things getting this show to the finish line. Ashton Sanders is not some bum actor, this sounds like he's being forced to deliver the lines how a director wants not like he just sucks at playing the character.

    • @joeroberts2156
      @joeroberts2156 6 месяцев назад

      The casting is terrible, dude looks nothing like Robert Diggs.

  • @adrone2669
    @adrone2669 6 месяцев назад +20

    "Hip-hop is not made up from scratch. The music, and the foundation of the music of hip-hop, comes from records that we found in our parents' crates, you know what I mean?
    Old funk and soul grooves.
    We've given new life to artists like james brown and isaac hayes and sly and the family stone and george clinton and parliament and funkadelic, and so many other groups, because we rapping over they beats, okay?
    So hip-hop didn't invent anything, but hip-hop reinvented everything."

    • @dominique8662
      @dominique8662 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, because freestyling isn't from scratch at all right. Rap didn't just start. Who cares what you think honestly. Yall always hating in some shape form or fashion

    • @adrone2669
      @adrone2669 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@dominique8662 not hating at all, you completely misunderstood. This is also a KRS-One quote, you played yourself my guy

    • @nat_hayes
      @nat_hayes 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@adrone2669😂😂😂😂

  • @eva_pilot
    @eva_pilot 6 месяцев назад +14

    *HORRIBLE ARGUMENT*
    1st: dude doesn't WANT to b a "real" musician
    2nd: how many records u sell or how much money u got doesn't make u a real musician either
    3rd: how tf does it keep that guy out of business? nothin's stopin ol head from makin music or playin it
    4th: listen to Daft Punks Discovery n tell me that samplin isn't creative n artistic af

    • @SamHoodie3k
      @SamHoodie3k 6 месяцев назад +1

      One of the reasons so many people complain about music now, and not just older people, a lot of younger people, is because so many people have left behind "real" musicianship. Repetitive loops and artificial perfect timing taking over music, makes a lot of the music sound dead (which doesn't mean it sounds bad. Music isn't so disposable now just because there's a plethora of it and streaming makes for easy access, it's disposable because a lot musicianship has been lost, especially within Black America, which has always been the true innovative force in music for the last 100 plus years.

    • @eva_pilot
      @eva_pilot 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SamHoodie3k only "real" musicians care about musicianship, artists only care about what sounds good n what makes em feel good, musicianship is something most music artists dgaf about n the same with fans

    • @SamHoodie3k
      @SamHoodie3k 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@eva_pilot It the music becomes less good because of it. Even if fans don't know they care about it, they do, which is why music is so much more disposable now. Same with singing, same with rapping. As the skills diminish people care less, and they spend less, which means music artists get paid less, and those artists are seeing their pockets dry up right now.

    • @eva_pilot
      @eva_pilot 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SamHoodie3k music becomin "less good" is subjective, musicianship doesn't automatically make good music, artists will always make good music n also u thinkin it's more disposable is also subjective, u need to get out more, music is changin whether u like it or not n just cuz artists don't play guitar doesn't mean thr music doesn't sound good

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@eva_pilotits a fact that music has gotten more disposable. Just look at how much faster songs nowadays drop of the billboard top 100. That's proof that people are not listening to songs for as long as they use to so the songs are disposed of quicker. The fact people aren't listening to songs as long as they used to also proves that the music isn't as good.

  • @otakudesuka7376
    @otakudesuka7376 6 месяцев назад +7

    Jealous black "brother" in a nutshell.

  • @XShollaj
    @XShollaj 6 месяцев назад +11

    Love Wu Tang , but this show looks like its AI generated. Also I started loving soul because of rap samples , just like many others - so thank you RZA and others for introducing us to that music

    • @bedeckt
      @bedeckt 6 месяцев назад

      AI-Generated? No. AI isn't nearly there yet.

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@bedecktHe’s saying the writing is so bad that an AI must have written it and I tend to agree

    • @bedeckt
      @bedeckt 6 месяцев назад

      @@corvus8638 ah I completely got it wrong. Gotta use my brain more. thanks for letting me know!
      Would you say the series is worth watching? Maybe I'll check it out at some point

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 6 месяцев назад

      @@bedeckt Can’t tell you as I haven’t watched the show

  • @choossuck7653
    @choossuck7653 18 дней назад +3

    They couldn't find anyone that could actually play the genius?

  • @blackjesus804
    @blackjesus804 7 месяцев назад +19

    The writing and acting are awful.

  • @hotties4jesus
    @hotties4jesus 7 месяцев назад +3

    My answer to the guy would be to ask him what he played and give him a shot at some studio work. I deeply admire RZA btw.

  • @jannivannibell
    @jannivannibell 6 месяцев назад +11

    Some of these actors are just not great- dude playing rza i'm talkin about you

  • @atlientelevision
    @atlientelevision 6 месяцев назад +14

    1:20 this moment could’ve been used to exchange phone numbers and create jobs for at least one musician

    • @chuckn4851
      @chuckn4851 11 дней назад

      If he had approached RZA better, RZA probably would've initiated that. Instead the old head started hating and lost his own opportunity.

  • @grandblank
    @grandblank 6 месяцев назад +2

    Every Sam Ash employee in the history of the company would call that a Lap Steel.

  • @br3akstuff
    @br3akstuff 6 месяцев назад +17

    Kinda obsessed with how the actor looks nothing like RZA

    • @WookieGolgberg
      @WookieGolgberg 6 месяцев назад +2

      I was waiting for RZA to show up the entire time.

    • @br3akstuff
      @br3akstuff 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WookieGolgberg The acting is very "community theatre" as well

    • @WookieGolgberg
      @WookieGolgberg 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@br3akstuff yup. Or like an anti drug PSA

  • @don8244
    @don8244 6 месяцев назад +8

    OG is now miserable at home on his medicare plan

  • @KingBrahma-xw6mt
    @KingBrahma-xw6mt 6 месяцев назад +17

    Idc lol Rza don’t talk like that he talk like Elmer Fudd

  • @folyfield187
    @folyfield187 6 месяцев назад +2

    And Bobby Digital was born.

  • @fleesti_fit
    @fleesti_fit 6 месяцев назад +11

    Sampling records creates a paychecks for other artists whose records aren’t being streamed and recreating samples creates jobs for musicians. Win Win

  • @goon009
    @goon009 6 месяцев назад +5

    The funny thing is the artist formerly known as Prince would also tell him that he is not a musician he wouldn't be hating on him but he'll just be saying its a matter of fact that you are not a musician.

    • @eyespy3001
      @eyespy3001 6 месяцев назад +1

      If you’re making music, you are a musician. The medium isn’t the message.

    • @goon009
      @goon009 6 месяцев назад

      @@eyespy3001 just because you play a "sport" doesn't mean your an athlete.

    • @papahellmann
      @papahellmann 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yea it does actually in every way, excluding esports
      You hella stupid, for saying that dumb shit that sounded smart to you

    • @eyespy3001
      @eyespy3001 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@goon009 Yes it does. You may not be a _professional_ athlete, which just means you get paid, but if you play a sport, and you take it seriously (meaning you train and condition yourself) and are athletic…you’re an athlete. By definition, an athlete is someone who is proficient in sports. Not that high of a bar to pass.
      By your narrow-minded rationale, someone like J Dilla isn’t a musician, despite making some of the most influential music of the past 25 years. By your rationale, the entirety of Kraftwerk aren’t musicians, despite making some of the most influential music of the past 50 years. Just because these artists don’t use conventional instruments it doesn’t mean that they don’t create. Hell, even The Beatles were using samples to create original songs every time they used their Mellotron.

  • @willh7352
    @willh7352 6 месяцев назад +4

    I watched the entire two seasons :D definitely enjoyed it
    would be nice if they touched a little on the Bobby Digital era

    • @khwarizmatic437
      @khwarizmatic437 6 месяцев назад +1

      And Gravediggas

    • @zeem313
      @zeem313 6 месяцев назад

      There’s one more season!

    • @elijaharvinger1178
      @elijaharvinger1178 6 месяцев назад

      They spent soooo much time slow rolling the first season they had to rush the second season. Too bad. I think RZA thought he would get at least 4 seasons and by the time he found out that wasn't going to be the case it was too late.

    • @Ok-tl1dv
      @Ok-tl1dv 6 месяцев назад

      He did name bobby digital

  • @davidvincenthuffman
    @davidvincenthuffman 7 месяцев назад +8

    For the comments about acting....Its a genuine story, not always about acting all the time, sometimes the story is whats to be seen imo

  • @HardCoreGarage
    @HardCoreGarage 6 месяцев назад +8

    Music, Art, is about how it makes you feel. Nothing else.

  • @alZiiHardstylez
    @alZiiHardstylez 6 месяцев назад +10

    Even though it's a show, I understand hating on samples, old heads growing up in the 70s and seeing all their classics being put on rap. Especially black music from the 90s onwards that have less than ideal messaging.
    (When I was younger producing, I literally had a folder with maybe 10000 different samples, so like, y'know. Just playing the other side but I totally get it)

    • @morrisalanisette9067
      @morrisalanisette9067 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think there's nothing wrong with sampling but I do think that real composers / performers should get more respect. even though making beats is a serious craft and all, and maybe the same level of artistry if done really well, but it's just not the same in terms of depth.

    • @rbrivers1731
      @rbrivers1731 6 месяцев назад

      @@morrisalanisette9067 No it isn't! Not even close! There is a huge difference between Teddy Reilly, Jimmy Jam vs Kanye and RZA! Pep[le like Teddy Reilly create chords, melodies, base lines! While RZA and Kanye sample the melodies, basslines, chords and other shit real composers create!

    • @morrisalanisette9067
      @morrisalanisette9067 6 месяцев назад

      yeah but they are still composers there's just less complexity with music theory. to me producers who use samples is kind of like collage artist compared to painters. But keep in mind many producers aren't just using samples especially nowadays. Also a lot of producers are actually bonafide musicians but they just make beats because there is no incentive to 'whip it out' so to speak. It's not the 70s nobody wants to hear a key solo or complex structures. It kinda sucks but thats how it is @@rbrivers1731

  • @anthonyrowland9072
    @anthonyrowland9072 7 месяцев назад +6

    did bro miss the previous 15 years of hip hop?

  • @grawakendream8980
    @grawakendream8980 6 месяцев назад +19

    this seems made up

    • @galedribble9535
      @galedribble9535 6 месяцев назад +4

      I believe the members of the Wu said they used some creative license in telling the story in a way that fits neatly into hour long episodes

    • @grawakendream8980
      @grawakendream8980 6 месяцев назад +1

      in the sense that their story is more so boring maybe@@galedribble9535

    • @tdup191
      @tdup191 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@illdrumatik391show was great and they've had many documentaries done on them already.

    • @namesshmames
      @namesshmames 6 месяцев назад

      Yea this is a really bizarre situation to have ever happened like this

  • @thefutureisbread
    @thefutureisbread 6 месяцев назад +15

    As a Wu-Tang fan this show looks like hot garbage

    • @khwarizmatic437
      @khwarizmatic437 6 месяцев назад

      @@LightsCameraPantssssno, by hollycrap

  • @Pierrecommentary
    @Pierrecommentary 6 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t know why the scene is so funny to me 😊

    • @Salacecon
      @Salacecon 6 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂

  • @magneto44
    @magneto44 7 месяцев назад +12

    if it makes sound, you are playing an instrument 🤷‍♂️

  • @MncMarcos
    @MncMarcos 6 месяцев назад +11

    It's kinda contradictory to say to someone that they are not real musicians but then say they enjoyed some of their tracks, wu tang never claimed to be musicians, they are rappers and producers, and that's just another way of seeing it, if beethoven or mozart could hear what the "real" jazz musicians played, they would probably say that's not real music either, this is just a generational cycle, and it keeps happening nowadays.

    • @jeanmember
      @jeanmember 6 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t think it’s the same. I think the classical artists would find the use of chords in jazz interesting. Without artists there’s nothing to sample.

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 6 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t put Beethoven in the same paragraph as some rapper

    • @audreyharris7643
      @audreyharris7643 2 месяца назад

      ​@@corvus8638why not?

    • @corvus8638
      @corvus8638 2 месяца назад

      @@audreyharris7643 He was an actual genius. Rappers are stupid af

    • @audreyharris7643
      @audreyharris7643 2 месяца назад

      @@corvus8638 there not all stupid

  • @SecondStage1983
    @SecondStage1983 7 месяцев назад +4

    Sam ash??? What year is this??

  • @UncleMichaelable
    @UncleMichaelable 6 месяцев назад +19

    Sure glad I didn’t watch this.

    • @sk1rr627
      @sk1rr627 6 месяцев назад +9

      theres is no creature that could ever live that could ever care

    • @UncleMichaelable
      @UncleMichaelable 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@sk1rr627 but you commented so you must.

    • @C4LBHitmarkers
      @C4LBHitmarkers 6 месяцев назад

      Nobody gives a shit about you

  • @ljschannel3226
    @ljschannel3226 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Anyone' Can be a musician

    • @kasheem1747
      @kasheem1747 7 месяцев назад +4

      Anyone can do what rza did as well