On The Hunt Ep.30 Built Ford Tough
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2022
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I decided to take a break from all the bodywork I’ve been doing on #ProjectSnowman to go and look at some potential future projects at the local auction yard. First up is a minty LTL9000 with a B-block Cat. Definitely needs some work but would be an awesome addition to the collection as I love Fords and I actually started out trucking in an L9000 back in the 90’s. The right beside this minty Ford was an old needle-nose Kenworth that was worthy of a look as well. Found a few more beauties and wanted to share some thoughts on the future of the trucking industry.
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If you really truly love the LTL then there is your chance to get it and restore it
@@Westernstarguy4900 ààa no
Check out the truck Wayne from Ol2stroker channel just got ruclips.net/video/svvXf808BVE/видео.html
some early automatics needed you to use the clutch to start and stop, but would shift the rest of the gears for you once underway, without the use of the clutch. Weird.
There’s no “driver shortage “ in the USA but there’s definitely a shortage of driver compensation. Great careers with great pay and benefits don’t have to beg for employees. Every truck going down the highway has an ad on the back begging for help. That’s the first red flag to warn a person that something is terribly wrong with that career.
Well said.
Yup
I'd love to see you restore an LTL, as they definitely are super rare nowadays.
the Cl9000 are even rarer i have yet to see one in person besides one that i saw at an abandoned lot of trucks in NY. I wish i could find the place again
There’s a first generation LTL with the round headlights and the old rounded style hood which is extremely rare near me, old man hauls logs with it, he bought it new around 76’, last I seen it though it was real rough, but still going
@@Thunderchicken69 Always makes my day to see an older rig still running today. It seems that the semi trucks of today have traded character and over good looks for efficiency.
@@mr.capythebara9384 I can't really blame the modern owner operators for that choice. If your on the road for months at a time a nice comfortable truck is a bonus and with fuel being what it is, every mpg less is really going to hurt.
@@KR-hg8be Well of course, I have no doubt that they're more comfortable, they just don't have the same style as a vintage rig.
I have wanted to see an LTL-9000 restored so bad. I drove an 87 model with a B-Cat. Loved it.
Part of the driver shortage is the unwillingness of corporate to pay for QUALIFIED drivers. One of my drivers at work finally gave up a lifetime of being a road jockey to become an inside worker. Said they were cutting pay and hours. God Bless our Men and women of the highway, (as well as our folks in the fields, mining oil and farm,) as they are our life support. They support us, we need to support them!
You open the tachograph wind the clock put a round piece of paper in it and it records your speed and or RPMs so your company knows you're not over speeding the motor and you would usually turn it in with your paper log
There were "needles" that would make marks on the round card that would be inserted in the case, recording hours of service of sorts , ("movement" vs. sitting still,) and speed, (at least the ones that I worked on -- no tach hooked to ours -- just speedometer and a wind-up clock.) In somewhat predictable fashion, some drivers would physically bend the speed needle "down," with a needle-nose so that the recorded speed etched on the card would show lower than the actual speed being driven. In later models, they became electronic so the tampering got more difficult, and I also worked on some that were "eight-day" tachographs, which contained a series of cards for each day, and a knife in the tachograph would "cut" the tape keeping them together and start recording the next day, etc. Pretty crude by today's standards, but they served a purpose back in the sixties & seventies.
The ol' tatletale, goofy damn things!
I heard some drivers call on my tattletale
In Europe it's still in use for trucks with more than 20 years old. As told there's a "pen" that writes on a special paper disc, but in Europe it doesn't record the rpm, only the speed and the driving hours. You cannot pass 9 hours driving per day with a stop of 1 h after 4h30, then 11 hours of nap
@@fuorisagoma most trucks had 2 of them, tach and speed in my days..
I absolutely love Ford commercial trucks! The Louisvilles look great, but the LTL9000 is a cut above the rest in terms of styling. Good video once again!
Good old "Tachograph", it took a round carbon paper disc which two needles sat on and scratched out the engine rpm, and the speedometer speed onto the disc which was driven around by a clock work motor drive, from that you could tell the travelled distance, speed and gear range and time driven by looking at the chart and comparing it to a map route. D.O.T. loved these for checking on brake check stops and rest periods. Many times you would find the charts laying on the side of the road after and accident, almost unreadable because the driver removed the chart and stepped on it like a cigarette butt to make it unreadable by enforcement staff. Mechanics loved them because it showed if a guy was "hot dogging" the truck, over revving or speed shifting. Most of the time the key was removed before a trip by management once a new chart disc was installed so the driver couldn't get into it to change the disc. Old boys would drive a set "shuttle route" and have a spare disc or two and swapped out the disc for a "preused" disc with a "clean run" etched into the chart when they parked and take the new disc with them for "later use"..lol You could say this was the true precursor to G.P.S. tracking, guys who analyzed these could tell you almost exactly where the truck was at any given time from the chart disc and a map. Amazing old tech that was hard to defeat in the day..
Thanks for the video Mark stay safe & Cheers!
The old tachographs we used had a razor in the housing that would put a tiny cut in the edge of the disc when it was put into the tachograph at the beginning of a drivers shift....it kept everyone honest in case someone had a duplicate key.They had tachograph magnifying scopes in the office in which to study the disc charts, and they used them regularly.
I came across a guy with two LTL 9000. Both were on a jobsite and were in mint condition. He worked them every day. I made a point of stopping to talk to the owner and show my appreciation for his love for his trucks
the transmission was a Fuller Ultra Shift, it was actually a 9 speed transmission below the floor with no shift tower on it Mechanically it was the same but the computer shifted for you. You did have to press the clutch when coming to a stop and taking off. there is a video of @greg_a Peterbilt came with a ultrashift in it and they swapped it out with a 18 speed.
Yea what i said sounds like my friends truck
Not to be a douche and split hairs, but it's an Autoshift. the Ultrashifts only had 2 pedals, whereas the Autoshifts had 3. There was an option Kenworth had, that included a console so to speak of that had a "cobrahead" (Eaton's words, not mine) shifter. Functioned the same as the keypad, but the lever moved and had the up/down buttons on the left thumb area. The fleet I used to mechanic for had a bunch, and I liked them, other than the XY shifters going bad on the Gen 2 trannies. For gen 3, they flipped the Y axis and got the electric motor away from the heat of the exhaust, and were pretty much trouble free.
The school I attended to get my CDL used an later fld that had the same set. They used it to train new drivers for take off and stops as well as backing once you passed in that one you could move on to a full manual .
@@DieselDoc78 😂😂😂😂don't worry about it, I aint got time to worry about arguing over an automatic🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have done so many clutch’s in the ultra shifts. What happens is the guys start off and second fully loaded and then burn the clutches out my advice is don’t buy an Eaton ultra or auto shift.
That Ford was decked out !
The orange interior is the giveaway!
Hope the next owner restores it!
The early “automated” transmissions still had the clutch for starting and stopping, but shifted themselves.
They still do
@@Mathewwoods178 current Eaton Fullers don't. I've got a clutchless behind my x15. I hate it but I didn't get a say.
Drove an old international that had one and it was awful.
Even earlier they had one that would auto shift the last two gears as in a 10 speed the stick stopped at 9 and the computer gave you the 10th. Hence most of the time you didn't have to downshift on slight grades.
Those first autoshifts were absolute trash
You gotta love the old ford trucks they made some bloody nice rigs hi mark from Australia home your having a good day
The Ford CL-9000 (COE) and LTL-9000 were Ford's last entry into the class 8 truck field. They were definitely the best of the Ford breed, well built, well designed and well styled. Ford used a lot of steel in their cabs as opposed to fiberglass and aluminum. They were sturdy, but steel rusts.
Gotta agree on the woes of the trucking industry. It used to be a vocation in which one could earn a good living without having a college degree, and be quite independent. But from what I understand, it's becoming a hard job, working for the big shipping companies, and for not a lot of money. The days of the independent trucker, driving his customized home on wheels, is pretty much over.
Didn’t they restyle the Aeromax / Louisville shortly before they sold heavy truck to Freightshaker/Benz?
Therez still some of us doing it the old school way. They cant shut down the Owner Op's even if they wanted. We make up 95% of the industry
That Needle Nose KW would look perfect at your place Mark! 😍
Hi Mark, The Cummins in the KW looks like an NHK 220, this is the same engine as in my 1973 Foden S80, currently under restoration. Built at Darlington in the North East of England, these were the small cam 743 cu in (12.17 Litre engines) The Darlington plant is still woroking today.
Mark, the title gave it away. I've been looking for a LTL9000 with a factory sleeper on it. I can't seem to find one. Looks like I might have to make a trip to Canada to find one. That would be a real sharp looking truck fixed up!
Peg would LOVE that old Fird!
I'd love to have that LTL9000, or even better would be a CLT9000 cabover with the 110" cab. I'm a Ford guy anyway, but just saying those were the best looking, most modern looking trucks on the road back in the day. And yeah, I was blown away the first time I saw one of those automated manuals. Had a lever rather than buttons, but still had a clutch pedal. I swore I'd never drive an automatic class 8 truck, and a 13 speed Eaton will always be my favorite. Have to admit though, now that I'm doing local, the i-Shift in the Volvo is nice to have in traffic. And hell, bobtailing I can keep up with traffic. It starts out in 5th and then will skip gears. Kind of freaks people out that a big truck can launch from a traffic light and keep up with them.
Would love to see really any sort of a Ford get restored here! Especially that LTL9000!
That Ford LTL9000 is cool & the 1964 Needle nose Kenworth is so sweet.
I found an 87 LTL a couple years ago I use as a dump truck. Probably my most prized possession and never want to part with it. Big cam 400 Cummins....old school! You should make that your next project!
Some of the first automatics were actually computer automated manuals. You had to use the clutch to put in gear and to take off. It was very possible to stall and when it broke, you had to crawl it back to the yard.
My first 'hood' was a 1987 Ford 9grand. 400Cummins Big Cam motor with a 10speed and 3:70 rears. It had a fairly large aerodyne sleeper on it. It was special ordered at a Ford auto dealership where the owner's son was a friend. He called me one day, yelling Help, Help!! So I went down there and traded in my 1983 International cabover. Had that rascal a tad over two years and 250thousand miles and not one problem. Traded it in at the big midwest truck show at Louisville for a new 1990 much customized Freightliner conventional.
The Tachograph took a round sort of paper disk and recorded the RPM and that served as your log instead of a log book, you still had to wright on it where you stopped and that sort of thing, depending on the company you worked for, I used one when I was delivering Gasoline in a tanker
We were a MC between 2007-2011. Best part-time job ever! The brokers ate all the profits that were needed to continue operating and when fuel hit $5 per gallon, no one seemed to understand what a fuel surcharge meant. I would rather drive home empty before hauling a load that paid less than my cost to operate the truck.
I love these trucks
The old N/A Cummins had a good bark to them. Ran a 72 Autocar with a 220 "slightly" turned up. Screamer!
The old LTLs were ahead of their time imo, the interior was much sportier than anything else back then
Sweet truck that Ford.,,, please restore that old queen
My first truck was an LTL9000 with a Western Star bunk on it. 350 Cat,13spd ,244inch and drove it dedicated local for a year and made good money and little downtime. The cab leaked air on a windy day so bad you might as well leave the door open. That soft spot on the cab has friends.
Oh man I was hoping you'd by the ford, and the old needle nose next to it. Love the on the hunt episode's.
The fld 1st gen auto shift for taking off and backing up which was a better design I thought 👍👍👍
I am from 🇦🇬 grew up around heavy duty equipment since I was in pampers !love your channel dude.
20:35 "Want a beer ray?" 😂😂
My parents had a LTL 9000 aerodyne when I was a kid. I was so hoping you would buy that and restore it. I love those old ford's.
My dad had a ford ltl with a 60 in stand up bunk growing up amongst his kw cabover’s loved that truck!
The Freightliner had an Eaton autoshift.
It's a standard 18 speed with an air shift box bolted on top. You need the clutch to start and stop but it'll shift automatically. They were great because when it broke you just put in a shifter and off you went.
I'm trying so much n so hard to finde a second hand one for long I'm keeping on asking so many people in the USA but no one wud halp me til today.i keep on watching ur videos I love it n I respect u alot for ur hard work keep on moving brother good bless u
Hellow mark I drive a truck and watch your videos yes iam down in Tennessee
15:50. I have driven quite a few trucks and the beige International Eagle interior shown here is, hands down, the nicest interior of any truck I have ever driven. It is the only interior I would want in a truck if I ever went back to OTR work. It was always nice to wake up in a nice bright interior, instead of these dreary charcoal/grey/blue interiors of other brands.
That was fun to 👀 the different 🚚's. Thanks, keep up the gr8 work.
love the old Ford those were sweet truck back in the day 🤘😎
I would love to see an LTL build from you. I love them trucks.
How you doing mark good to see you again buddy good luck
Just got back from a trip across the USA in a four wheeler. Coming back on I-80, you sure wouldn't think there was a driver shortage.
That last rig would be perfect for hosting Friends of the Road.
Like that 9000 buddy
Listen here.....I grew up in a 9000 late 80s - mid 90s. 350hp 3406. My dad hauled milk. Tough job back roads of maine in the wintertime. It would absolutely make my day if you redid one.
I drove a 78 LTL 9000 444 big cam cummins twin compound “ air research” turbos. 18 speed eaton. 4.10 Rockwell rears custom Mack camel back springs for heavy hauling! Mainly I bulled a coal wagon up in Northern West Virginia.. I retired in 2008.. the old girl is still on the road!
Have loved LTLs as long as I have been old enough to know what a truck is. And clean ones are just so hard to find. Definite bucket list truck for me. 8k seems like a decent price for it, especially with a (presumably) healthy B model.
I have an 89 LTL in Australia. Great trucks.
Mine is still working too.
If I'm not mistaken the reason that blue freightliner had a clutch pedal but an automatic shifter is because it's an early automated manual that requires the driver to still use the clutch pedal for starting the truck and stopping.
For the freightliner FLD120sd, the clutch pedal on automatic that you found weird is probably actually one of the models that nobody really heard about. It's an automatic but you have to clutch in to put it in first and start going. Some company made those for some years and suddenly stop doing them. I don't know why, but they where pretty cool.
Nice.truck
Ltls are one of the coolest trucks built
love that ol' kenworth
In regards to the clutch pedal on the FLD, an Auto shift has a clutch pedal to start out with so you come to a stop sign you have to push it in, the Ultra shift has no pedal.
Love the Old LTL9000.
Great Video the LTL and Ol'Kenny were super and yeah for space you can't touch a Western Star inside super roomier especially on a long haul.
Now that would look gr8 in your stable
20:30. Nice shot of Paul Cox’s Kenworth K100C Aerodyne ‘Big Lucy’.
Great restoration videos there if you’re interested.
Had and 88 ford for 18 years never let me down
That needle nose was minty!!
Tachograph had a circular disc you labelled and placed inside. Your 'shift operation' was recorded ( graph style, hence the name) as the disc rotated.
that ford sold for just 8000??????
you should’ve bought it man…it’s a steal!!!!!
i really like the styling on the older fords👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I will be getting my CDL next year in June and will be driving for Frozen Food Express both of my parents retired after 32 years of driving in 2019 safe travels and God Bless Twin Stick enjoy watching your videos From Colorado From Kidd Trouble
14:34 lots of early autos had a manual clutch for starting and stopping only.
When I started driving in ‘89 everyone had those ratty 9000’s from the mid 70’s.
Thats what I learned on, Cat 3208 naturally aspirated with a 5 &4. Gutless !!
The Cummins powered trucks had the engine mounted on a slant towards the drivers side. I hated those damn trucks. Couldn’t wait to drive anything but a Ford.
Last one I drove looked like that one, with square headlights. Had a Cat I believe, and a 5&4 double over. ( the last 2 gears on the main trans H pattern are reversed)
Hello I like what your teaching keep pressing forward.
those NA cummins sound wicked with a straight pipe
The freightliner has a auto shift in it. You still use the clutch for starting and stopping. You heard wrong I was just in commiefornia fuel was around $7 a gallon.
It's gone down recently, a friend told me he saw almost 9 a gallon for diesel at a station up in northern CA in the spring
That LTL definitely had possibilities and it went for a good price. and that old KW was amazing, it's hard to find ones that are that complete. it still had the Sangamo tachograph, I haven't seen one those in a really long time. it looked like possibly a 290 Cummins, that was long before the formula and NTC engines. and it twin straights on it I'll bet that thing was noisy. and that Freightliner with the automatic, I'm guessing that a person used the clutch to start from a standing stop. that Peterbilt with the bull bumper on it was a 359. all the extended hood Peterbilt's are 379s. I didn't like the steering wheel on that particular one. some of those old cornbinders weren't such bad trucks. I drove an LTL 9000 for an Asphalt Paving company, it was a heavy hauler dump and pup with a three axle trailer and a drop axle on the tractor. it had a 3406B with an eighteen speed transmission. it was a runner it could easily run right along with any other truck out there. it was one of the best trucks I have ever driven.
I'm digging that old kw. Friend of mine has his dad's old 1958 kw was forsale.
Minty!
You know what's my dream truck, a Hayes to participate in the Lesco show.
I drove L-8000s way back when. City tractors; still a favorite. Cat eight cylinder engines.
I’m 19 years old and I can tell you now trucking is my dream and my passion.. I joined the illinois national guard as a truck driver.. and I’ll never do anything else well
Waving that hand from Dallas Tx....30yrs and almost 4 million miles. I'm only 52...But the ride is almost over. Ain't what it once was...8yrs to go and I'm out..if I'm lucky !!
22:40 "Its the way of the road there Bubs" LMFAO!!! Always enjoy the vidjas Mark!! Keep showing us that old iron!!😁👍
Earlier automatics used the clutch to take off only. My dad had one in a freightliner.
Back in the late 80’s my dad had an ‘86 LTL 9000 with a 60 inch stand-up sleeper. Loved that truck. Before that he had a ‘78 CL 9000 that cabover with the big bunk that he had bought new. After running that for a few years he bought an ‘83 CL 9000. I believe the CL 9000 cabovers had Detroits and the LTL had a Cat.
Omg, I was truly awaiting 2 see that part done
I love my 85 LTL she’s retired now just does the odd truck show pulling a 40 ft bogey pan we’re decking out as mobile home
Love those Ford trucks
Love the LTL's. The needle nose has the NH 220 Cummins. I have a T/A 1964 LCF Fargo 1000 with the same engine.
Mark I saw a 1963 Canadian Kenworth dump truck. on vancouver Island it was made in vancouver b.c.
Beautiful trucks,thank you for the video.
Love that Ford
Some cool old iron there, enjoyed this On the Hunt even know I've watched it on Patreon already. Keep up the great work Mark and can't wait to see what next on Patreon and Snowman.
Man the LTL 9000 would look good in the driveway
I LOVE IT !!!
I cut my teeth on a 1984 LTL9000, old yellow ryder truck 350 Cat- spring ride. Rode nice loaded but horrific empty. Govenor'd at 65 mph so the cruise control was throttle cable pulled all the way out.
Nice old kenwood hello from finland ; )
LOVEEE that LTL 9... bad ass truck!
That old Cummins has that throaty sound because it's not running through a turbo, which not only has silencing qualities it also blends the exhaust pulses into one synchronous sound,hence the need for less exhaust silencing on turbo diesels. Can't beat the exhaust note of a big NA diesel.
Just wanted to say hi mark ,I enjoy your videos and can’t wait to see snowman finished your going an awesome job
Hats off the the Old Guard who remember butterfly hoods and tachographs. Respect
Bostrom rubber block suspension seats, standard steering, straight cut gears, camel back or hendrickson spring suspension. The list could go on.
Bunch of tough, skilled ole boys.
I did it. June I passed my Class 1 (CDL) bought a truck and am working to get it on the road, a 2 axle rigid to start but I got to start somewhere. I have always wanted my licence. I think the driving school was getting roughly 10 people a week through and qualified. Anyways I am loving it so far and have to thank a few guys on the internet who keep it positive and have been a real inspiration and driving force behind getting started. Mark is one of those guys.
Thanks Mark!
Edit: I know they are not everyones cup of tea but I quite like the Western Stars.
The early ultra-shift style transmissions you had to still actuate the clutch when starting and stopping.
That’s so cool!