This Plugin Saved Me HOURS Every Track (VocaLign)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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I used to do this by hand costing hours upon countless hours. I love vocal align! It sounds natural and works fast. Thanks for the great videos.
well now I need someone that *saves me* from all these plugins 😵💫
LOL. I rarely promote plugins - like - very rarely. This is one that I actually think is really worth it.
@@NathanJamesLarsen
Lol yeah I saw this video pop up in my notifications and I was like, "Wow that's unusual for him."
@@joshuadelaughter haha yep! I am extremely picky about what I talk about in terms of products... unless it's sample libraries.. I can talk about those all day haha
You mean… a sugar daddy? LOL same
I'm drooling 🤤 This is the one plugin on my black friday shopping list this year
Because I want to go in the direction of more vocal productions, this will be invaluable and save hundreds of hours over the year. That's more song made, more reps, faster gains :)
Sounds cool.
Two things, where do I find your music and how do I get started with vocals?
You get the exact same function in Cubase 12 Pro. Super simple and fast.
You are such a cool dude for sharing all this knowledge and experience. You really show yourself to care about the growth of your viewers. I can't thank you enough. I'll always try to support you the best I can with a comment, full view and thumbs up! 👍 👍
💪💪💪🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 thanks so much for that. Really appreciate it!
@@NathanJamesLarsen You are most welcome Nathan, I owe you many thanks for all the help. It's an honor to me. Truly. Thank you. 🤝 🤝 🤝
Seeing how you discovered a new way that contradicts what you said and how you owned up to it shows not only your professionalism but also your humanity and I really do respect that a lot.
Not only am I glad I subscribed,I 'm also glad you don't use the other thumbnails any more. They definitely didn't do you justice.
i just bought their bundle with Repitch and VocAlign since its on sale right now for 30% off. I havent used the VocAlign yet so i was watching tutorial videos, and i can say that when you played it after you processed it, even though you said "you might say i didnt notice too much", i definitely noticed it, and thats actually crazy. I spend so much time on my doubles and harmonies. This actually makes me excited to edit layers now lol
i definitely noticed! if you get it too tight then it dosent sound good. but man i’ve been learning how to record and i definitely spend more time then i would like on getting my vocal rythms aligned, Im gonna buy this with your code my dude! thanks!
Great explanatory video. The reason cutting out the vocal section works is because it ends on an open vowel. I that syllable were to end on a consonant sound --especially a plosive-- it would sound a lot muddier. I think it's totally acceptable on the open vowel. Sounds great!
It’s crazy that this is exactly how I am working right now and I hadn’t found anybody else doing exactly this in Logic until now. This just confirms I’m not screwing up 😂 perfect timing for this video !
Same 😂🙌🏼
Cool plugin - I love tools like this that free up your time to do more fun stuff! This type of tool pays for itself in no time.
Also, it seems that you've mastered the art of RUclips speed talking - you still sound clear and natural without needing to constantly cut. That takes some real skill.
Oh I 100% agree... the hours I have spent vocal editing ... I dont even want to imagine that time. It's hundreds of hours.
And thank you!! Benefit of making hundreds of videos! Get comfortable on camera and working on being articulate.
Hey I got this software two years ago and found it impossible to use. After seeing your video, I downloaded the latest updates and, wow, now it actually works!
Vocalign can introduce a TON of artifacts, I still edit vocals a little bit before using it so the plug-in doesn’t stretch too far
This was superrr helpful. I've been using all kinds of processing along with trying to use vocalign and it was screwing it all up. It's a simple fix but I had no idea I was doing it wrong. Thanks for walking through it!
Absolutely! Glad it helped you!
Only down side : for the time being the ARA version of vocalign only works if you start Logic in Rosetta mode. Can’t wait for native M1 update…
Ahhh yeah... makes sense. ARA is definitely a HUGE benefit.
Thanks my guy! This will save me hours of production!- had to smash that like!
Thumbs up from me. I had seen the advertisements for it but figured it was not something that I need. And I'm not too hot on perfection. But, the end result is extremely commercial sounding (as in, for better or for worse, that's what people expect to hear on commercial pop records). And damn it's quick. Thanks.
Just re-watched. I bought one year of Landr studio with your Producer Accelerator discount Nathan! And Vocalign is included! ^.^
Okayyy Backstreet Boy Harmonies 👏 god I should have gotten this years ago. Would've saved so much time 😭
Been waiting for someone to do a walkthrough of it like this ty
No prob my dude!
Just bought Vocalign Ultra yesterday saving about $150 for Black Friday 2022 😊
LOL. Yea, it does work pretty good. As long as it’s a lot of vocals. I’ve been deleting parts of words in BGV’s for 30 years. Since Pro Tools 1. If you have two vocal tracks, a lead and one harmony, you have to be careful. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Vocalign is very cool though. Great video.
My man 🙏🏽 just bought vocalign 🎉 such a great guide! Thanks bro
Great video. This plug saves lots of time. Thanks! 👏🏻
I appreciate you & all of the details you include. Proper info presented right 💯
that's my fav song
genius dad
I appriciate your honesty alot, cool plug in, i'll get it
Wow!!!! This is now on my wish list!
You always provide great information. Thanks
I have downloaded a trial of this, just because I didn't want to drop the $150 that it costs blind, but, I am pretty sure that I am going to definitely have to pick it up. The last time I was in the studio, the guy had something similar to this (may have outright been this, but I'm not sure) and it was pretty awesome
You can actually fix that gap timing issue you address in the video with ATB but in Revoice pro
Thanks, Nathan! Was so helpful!
Awesome! thanks!
It does work like magic 😮 I wish it worked with metal screams, think it would?
thanks Nath. used this before but sometimes it didn't work so it tried manually but hopefully it's reliable enough now to use it every single time coz it's such an annoying job aligning vocals haha.
at 6:13 you selected and cut the 2 sound waves.. may I ask those shortcuts ? I use logic as well was very impressed ty 🙏
Love your content! Thanks for the recommendation!
Absolutely! I definitely don't recommend things lightly but this is one I do think is a game-changer
Should we add this to the rack or do we route all the tracks to a bus and do it there? You’re awesome for this man
No routing - put it straight on the tracks themselves like I show in the video.
i use revoice bc it can group process, and it's much faster than vocalign without recording guide and the dub 😭
Ahhh I am literally looking at getting that next.
😁"that actually works pretty darn well." great to the point tutorial. i tried using your affiliate link it got complicated. i cuoldnt find the buy now button.
Since I use Cubase, I just use the audio alignment tool. Great alternative though...
great channel very helpful resource
Thank you!🙂
why is it always only in mono with reaper and you cant choose installation folder, shame on them after spending that much...
Legend!
ty bro liked and subscribed 👑
Hi Nathan, I often thought of purchasing this plugin already, but it’s quite expensive. Now there seems to be a cheaper version, Project 5, that you use and recommend. Still expensive, but perhaps I‘ll afford it. € 129 at Thomann Austria. Thanks for the tutorial. 👍🏻🙏🏻
Thank you...awesome video
How the hell did u bounce multiple tracks in place. I don’t have that option
Nathan, this is a great video. I am still looking for a plugin that let me align vocal with the piano accompaniment, right now I have to do it manually and it will save me hours if I can do most of it automatically. Do you know what plugin could help? Thanks again.
so you pitch corrected them all as one stem after combining them all even if they were different pitches ? sorry for all the questions !
Bro what lights are those 😬
Haha I use PavoTube LED's
What is the difference between vocalign ultra and vocalign project??
Will it align main vocal single track to the main beat or music tracks when there are no backing tracks in a section?
What’s the difference between project 5 and ultra versions of this plugin? Is it worth it to go for the ultra?
Hey I’m having trouble separating vocAlign from my versus and chorus because I don’t use a lead track, do you have any tips?
Do you like the vocalign ultra version or do you prefer a different 3rd party pitch correction plug
Is there any reason this wouldn’t work on real orchestral brass and woodwind instruments?
after bouncing them do i delete the vocalign plug in?
yeah but the ARA wont work in logic unless you open it in Rosetta
6:30 mind thinking fuck, i've been wasting some time.. hahaha
Isn't there a feature in logic that quantices selected tracks to one predetermined track?
Nah - flex time is their time algorithm but it basically sucks in my opinion. And it isn't for aligning across tracks
What about having the lead vocal serve as the groove track for the other vocals? I’ve used that a bit for tightening up tracks to the drums.
How do you use this with melodyne
Am I the only one who thinks the workflow is conufsing? How do you get multiple vocals in and aligned at once? Tbh I think this thing is clunky and would rather just perform and arrange differently than have to do this.
nice 👍
It seems like there’s an overlap with Melodyne with some similar features and some that are different. Is it then valuable to have both in the toolkit?
Yeah you'd want both - Melodyne isn't gonna synchronize multiple different tracks together like this.
I just published my first song and learning to use this. As I wrote in my comment above I first tuned the lead vocal and one harmony with Melodyne and then let Vocalign Ultra to tune the rest of the backing vocals as octaves. I am on M1 Mac, so of course it took time to first play the tracks to the plugin and then bounce in place, but no way I couldn't have got this result fixing everything manually. One of my backing singer was just my neighbor without any experience recording anything but with Vocalign his voice fits the rest perfectly.
@@petrikaivanto That's good feedback. I've published 2 albums and working on number 3, so I love hearing positive feedback on plugins that save time. Most out there bring color or function. Great feedback.
Does this plug work on instrumental performances too?
Ehhhh not as great but it can. As long as the transients are clear.
For a second I thought I was listening to 80s Steve Winwood or something....
Definitely think this is worth the $150 if you’re a pro and do this everyday. It’s like magic. Being a hobbiest, I can just admire it from a distance.
Fair enough :)
The link to VocaLign is not working.
Huh I just checked and it's working...
I brought thus 3yrs ago and I can not get it to install
Have you reached out to their support?
Everything was far from aligned @5.36. It did sound tight though.
Yeah I shouldn't have said it was perfect - it is still correctable if you want it even tighter to actually slightly tweak those after you print the Vocalign processing down, though!
@@NathanJamesLarsen no, it sounded great, I just didn't notice much difference on the waveforms. Good plug-in to have, thanks for the tip.
Do you usually edit timing with vocalign before pitch correction? Is that a preference thing? Or is there a technical reason.
Cakewalk can do this natively and for free... ;-)
it's a nice plugin if it's your kind of thing I guess
I mean, there has been some great tracks over the years which are not perfectly aligned. Just saying
I guess it's a good plugin if you produce 20 track per day and don't have the time to align the transients yourself.
I love your videos and have subscribed to your channel, but dude, you talk so fast it actually makes me anxious. How many Red Bulls did you have today?
Lol! None - don't drink energy drinks haha / just talk fast I guess. Glad you still love the videos and my talking fast doesn't totally turn you away 😂
@@NathanJamesLarsen I’m here for good! You present some of the best content in a really easy to understand way. Thanks for sharing.
7:08 Too much reverb.
"Pay" is not limited to currency. If you were given something for free, you were paid. I don't mind that you got something and I'm not suggesting you were bought off for your opinion. But it's dishonest to claim you weren't paid.
Shut up nerd
Crybaby
Thanks tips!
True. I bought Vocalign Ultra and used it on my wife's latest song. It's really magical. I used Melodyne first to fix the tuning of the lead vocal and then ONE track of the harmony and then let Vocalign to do the rest. For octaves it works just fine. The only downside is that you need to bounce everything, but still this is a huge timesaver!
ruclips.net/video/KABB5z0UG9Q/видео.html
If you have Melodyne too why bother with ultra?
Been running Melodyne studio and vocalign project as I feel it’s primary strength is in
It’s, well, vocal aligning
You can run a single take through any harmonizer or octaves for the effect I have been seeing in ultra (the pitch stuff)
But nothing beats vocalign for stacked tracks, without overdoing it otherwise it just loses the natural
Human quality and sounds like a demon barbershop quartet
@@gitarman666 I didn't use Vocalign as harmonizer, but tuned first the lead vocal and one harmony vocal with Melodyne and then let Vocalign to do the aligning and the tuning of the other 10+ background tracks (incl. real octave doublings), but of course not too tight to keep it natural sounding. Of course, the most expensive version ReVoice 4 Pro would do everything, but since I already had Melodyne, I didn't want to buy that.
😂🙏🏿💯
It’s very cool but not if you get paid hourly 😂
LOL
Good point! Although I'd rather save the time and spend it doing more fun stuff on the track...
Absolutely buggy. Stopped using it after many session crashes. It would also lose my edits and cause issues with the edited melodyne content
This is why you do not use it with other plugins as I mention in the video... probably why you're having issues.
You should always align first - then bounce/print those tracks BEFORE any pitch correction or any other processing.
He said re-record the takes lol. I just cut and fade the ends. No one will ever know.
LOL - in most cases I would re-record, I was demonstrating another alternative haha. But I was even a bit surprised that it worked that well - often times it won't work that well and it'll sound very odd...
But I've said it before (and it's true) - backup vocals are a lot easier to get away with aggressive editing than lead vocals because they are "tucked away" a bit more.
Hahahahaha my most used plugin ever hahahahah you can even fix the timing of a good take, you just record a take where he or she sings it again in time (it doesn’t need to be well preform) and use for aligning the good take that’s out of timing 👍🏻 hahahaha and like this you can fix the timing super easy and safe
With all due respect, your videos are abit quiet
not using ur link I don't want ya to get kicked in the back... kinda sound like b urie
WHY are you worried about that? YOU WANT it to sound like BACKGROUND vocals... Stevie wonder's "with each beat of my heart" for example. Or "prince." OR you align the crap till its spot on and its nothing but a vocoder effort that could replace you with ease..
AND THATS why they DO. STOP trying to make humans sound like Vocoders... and more like Boys2men... the end
You clearly don’t get it, people are allowed to make the art they want, the way they want. You’re like the painter who is angry at the camera being invented, or angry about pitch correction, or angry that guitarists use pedals and not just an acoustic guitar. Make your art and let others make theirs, you’re not forced to do anything to your own stuff.
as an audio person, I would expect you to balance your speaking voice with the music. your speaking voice is very low and the vocal demo is super loud. I would want RUclipsrs to respect our ears more. we don't have a built-in compressor or a vocal rider on youtube. you guys should consider this for next videos since you guys are making money from these videos but all of the watchers are producers who need to take good care of their ears .
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Guy .. BREATHE! are you on a run? It's really hard to follow such fast speaking.
artists and explaining stuff.. 🤣😆
don't go that deep
Why do people make theses videos you seem to be skipping frames you cut off your words in your editing it looks like your face is-jumping around i wish people would edit with out skipping would make it more fun to watch i guess there all doing it this way .
Does it also align vocals to tempo in case you record delayed vocals due to high buffer recording ?
@@SuperPoopUnicorn no - your lead vocal needs to be already aligned - you can easily drag any parts back onto the grid and the use Vocalign
Bro this plugin useless for logic x and garageband cuz they already has flex time
Flex Pitch is terrible. I used to use it but over the last 12 months Flex has been totally unusable for professional productions. Actually planning on making a video on that because it is a really big problem.