LDS Youth Are Struggling - “Let’s Start Here” - Church Leaders
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- What are Latter-day Saint leaders saying about mental health?
To find out, Stephen joins Sister Tamara Runia of the General Young Women's presidency; Elder William K. Jackson, General Authority Seventy; and Sister Reyna E. Aburto, former Relief Society General Presidency counselor.
Our youth are struggling, and we're all wondering what to do. Join us as we explore options for the best way forward.
This was filmed at the Gather Together Conference in August 2023.
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00:00 Chapter 1 - Intro
00:56 Chapter 2 - The relevant experience each panelist has in the field of mental health
05:31 Chapter 3 - Painting the picture: addressing the concerns of two hypothetical teens who are struggling in different ways
09:24 Chapter 4 - The barriers that prevent people from seeking help and the importance of reaching out for support.
11:21 Chapter 5 - Breaking the stigma
11:52 Chapter 6 - The importance of vulnerability, open conversations, and faith in Jesus Christ
13:38 Chapter 7 - The spiritual and physical components of working through challenges
16:58 Chapter 8 - Nephi’s struggles and candidness about difficult emotions
18:45 Chapter 9 - Mental health in the missionary field
22:47 Chapter 10 - Church resources
27:30 Chapter 11 - The importance of building a foundation on Jesus Christ and relying on spiritual experiences
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Too many people accuse the church as being the source of mental health problems. However, the church has been a great support to me. I can honestly say that I wouldn't be alive without it.
For many, the members who are allowed among us and who know how to walk the walk and talk the talk, but are abusers - those are a great source of mental health problems for members. It is more traumatizing to see them get away with it, to know if you say anything you will be "the problem" and get a certain status in the community - so for many members it is easier to leave.
The examples they mentioned seemed like people in abusive situations where the abuse had been "taken out". I have not ever felt the spirit from someone who is bullying me or another person.
Say that to the LGBTQ who are always bashed by other youth and treated like 2nd class citizens. I could name a million reasons why one would want to leave. Just cause it’s good for some doesn’t mean it’s good for everyone.
I 100% agree!!!
We want to listen to those who have these feelings and see how we can help bring peace.
Often what they are really saying is "church member" abused me - and the Church did nothing about it, or enabled the abuser.
Most depression and mental health issues stem from abuse. The culture inside the church is a great set up for an abusive personality to get away with abuse, especially if the abuser knows how to work and manipulate the culture and protocols.
The recent news stories of the church paying victims of abuse, shows they know of the abuse, pay for silence, and not much of anything happens to the abuser.
Victims are aware that "coming out with allegation" will be more traumatic and unsupported than just suffering quietly.
It is hard to watch other people be abused by the abuser, but that is the culture they are in.
Most people who leave the church, leave because they were bullied, abused, or just generally felt they did not fit in somehow - often abusive personalities don't want "new people" or "tattletails" around.
@@soothingstories abusers hide in every organization. Jennifer Roach did a study that showed abuse happens 6x's less in the lds church
The whole world is in a crisis with mental health. It’s not the church, people of other faiths or no faith at all are battling mental health.
I can say The Church has helped me navigate depression and anxiety. Finding Christ through the gospel Plan is the only thing that has kept me alive, literally!
And now I’ve found such healing and hope in Christ!
It’s cause of our diet. Humans were not designed to eat plant food. I had clinical depression all my life. I gave up eating plants, processed food and seed oils and it all went away within 3 weeks. All of it. I was suicidal for years and attempted 6 times.
@@Lomochenko I’m so sorry you had to struggle with that difficult trial for so long, but am so happy you have found a remedy that works so well for you!
Diet forsure has a huge part to play in our mental well being! 👍🏻☀️❤️
We need to place ourselves in paths that bring light. I have learned to identify triggers that cause anxiety or negative thoughts. Prayer with the invitation to walk with Christ each day has been key. Tuning out media, movies, music or conversations that cause the spirit to withdraw, bring Peace. The Lord knows our heart and will use us to be an instrument in his hands, by his design. We do not need to compare ourselves to anyone else. The Lord loves us unconditionally.
Wow, Sister Runia! What a powerhouse! She knows what it feels like.
This deserves to be viewed a million times! Please everyone share this video!
That was money! Sister Ruina is so Christ centered! Thx
What an incredible group for a panel!
Excellent discussion - love seeing our leaders chat openly like this.
Wow this was awesome. It was a good reminder as a stay at home mom who homes schools her kids and learning ASL for one of my littles it can be overwhelming, but holding on to jesus and having those talks when its stressful helps. Love this! Would be awesome when one day all these talks will have an interpreter on the side so the deaf community has access to all this great stuff! Thank you for this message 🤟🏽
We need to exercise all the spiritual faith and strength possible but on the other hand our church leaders also need to speak to us straight about temporal issues we face like poor personal decisions, lack of self discipline, lack of initiative, destructive government policies that cause untold damage to all of us. We can pray about all these things for strength to make it through the challenges but none the less the temporal challenges are real as well as spiritual challenges.
Wonderful. Thanks for posting.
I needed this so bad! Thank you all!!! Thanks Bro Stephen Jones!
Powerful stuff Stephen! Thanks so much for all you do, and for bringing up these hard and sensitive topics. That question "Why won't God just heal me?" really hits hard. I love the thought shared by Sister Runia about Paul and his "thorn in the flesh". We so often pray for healing or seek Priesthood blessings and wonder why the Lord doesn't just take our burdens away. One of the General Authorities once said: "Do we have the faith NOT to be healed?", which has always stuck with me. Suffering and trials help refine us and help us turn to God in a way that perhaps nothing else can. Not to mention how they also affect those around us. The suffering and the difficulty will make the day of our resurrection that much more sweet. As Lehi said "for it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things..."
First again again love this show so much
Such an amazing panel. Thank you for this!
I was at a devotional with her a few months ago here in Cedar City. It honestly changed my life for the better. Sister Runia is a very wise person who has been called of God and she is magnifying her calling! 🙏🤍
I really love your channel Stephen and really appreciate all that you’re doing in your perspectives. This is such an important topic and I am so grateful for all the resources that have become available for missionaries - - a lot of these are not available when I served which was between 08 to 10 and so thankful to see that these were able to get rolled out afterwards. My wife’s mission president worked at the new MTC and it’s cool to hear all of the things that implemented there to help with mission mental health as well. I have always loved Sister Aburto’s perspectivesfrom her tough conversion. Background. I wasn’t as familiar with Sister Runia, but really loved her as well. I really respect the work that Elder Jackson is doing and know that is a huge responsibility which isn’t a major understatement to help with the mental/physical health of all the 70,000 missionaries in the field now.
I respectfully felt he could have emphasized more more of that, although it is important for us to be action, focused and do everything in our part we need to do that in context of our relationship with Christ and it’s not the grace kicking in at the end but that makes the whole difference . At least in my experience, it’s harder to go fully headfirst into amfixing a mental health issue in a systematic , organized task-centered way when we have faced a traumatic or major medical event the same way we fix issues when we are mentally and emotionally well . I feel during a mental health crisis it’s sometimes more like we are like Peter on the sea, or the woman with the blood issu who can only reach out to Christ which is a good analogy of giving the small
Widows mite the mentally ill can to ask for medical /professional help-I I found a times for my own mission president wife who also were amazing, but maybe just didn’t know how to be as sensitive to these issues and may have been a generational thing but not intended to be unhelpful and something we are all learning . All in all though, so happy for this discussion and that this is made available and we can continue to learn and grow to help one another with this important issue as Men’s & women’s hearts are increasingly failing so we can allow Christ to heal our hearts.
Thank you for posting ❤this is a very real thing!!!..
Sister Abirto saying she didnt have emotional illness...🤯 I guess everyone is so different but her story is incredibly sad and also hopeful and inspiring.
Our beliefs are often false about ourselves, others, and God. Our beliefs often affect our mental health.
Yes this!
Yes, thoughts are just thoughts, not reality!
Forget / let go of negative thoughts my friends, "seek learning by study and also by faith." Hear Him! / grow in the principle of revelation.
People need to get over their problems and push through them! Everyone has problems its called Mortality ❗️💜🙏🏻✨️
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One thing that helps me in the morning when I’m in bed and my OCD and anxiety are feeding on each other and creating depression, is remembering Christ’s atonement. His atonement is infinite, and it helps the world in infinite ways, and on infinite paths, and for each individual, including the worst people and the best people, you and me. “Come unto me all ye that labour (mentally, physically, morally, spiritually) and are heavy laden…and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you…and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
I've suffered since 10 from mental and physical problems. Some meds have worked, but since my hysterectomy, depression became much worse. Lost most of my family, suffered abuse, and church members reject me, and I feel isolated and alone. I've tried a lot of things because I can't hear the Lord. It makes me feel like He doesn't care. Tried TMS, which gave me hope for a while. I praised God, and then after a short time, it stopped working. I've had so much opposition, and yet I've helped so many because of my compassion. I can't seem to feel good anymore, and told the Lord I can't live this way anymore. Still He won't heal me after all I've suffered. I've had few happy days. I'm grateful I had goodly parents and a loving grandma, but they are all gone. He left me all alone. People in the church don't care or understand. 😢
I think so many of us are wrapped up in our own stuff that we don’t look out enough. Thanks for the reminder that we all need to be more aware of the people around us. My heart aches for you. I probably can’t reach out to you, but I can reach out to someone of my acquaintance. I’ll do it today thinking of you.
It is truly hard when you feel alone. I have often wondered why some of us struggle so much. I have come to realize that we face struggles for many reasons. First we struggle because we are mortal and live in an imperfect world. Second we think if we are not healed God doesn't love us which isn't true. Sometimes our trials and struggles are to reach others. Keep trying and have faith. I know you can find Peace in Christ. Keep searching, praying, following God, and find ways to quietly serve others. Seek for help! I know how hard it is to suffer and feel alone. You are not alone. God is out there and there is help. Please remember that Jesus Christ understands your suffering even if nobody else does. Also oftentimes people are distant because they don't know or understand. They may want to help but just don't have the words. We are all trying to press forward in our weaknesses.
You are not alone. Your loved ones are watching over you! You are beautiful ❤️
Thank you for your kindness. I wish I could see my loved ones, but maybe they aren't allowed to visit. I have helped others, but I keep hoping the Lord will heal me, as I've done almost everything possible. 💗
Thank you. I've also reached out to others suffering and in need. It often makes me feel better. ❤️
I lost my wife to depression, she’s still alive today, but she lost all sense of everything.
I'm in the same exact boat with my wife. I don't have any great advice for you or anything. Just wanted you to know you're not alone.
Bummer. Totally there with ya. But bummer. May I suggest finding ways to help her to help others ? It seems that lifting another’s burden in any small way helps lift our own. What does she enjoy that she could share easily and naturally ? Even taking a friend an ice cream or a plant can help. Good luck !
We all have.
Depression and anxiety is not an exclusive problem to LDS Youth. If you talk to any teacher working in a school system, you will find it’s pretty widespread among youth of all backgrounds. I suffered from it as a youth in the 70s and I was not LDS then. Thank goodness social media did not exist then or I would not have survived.
You should get Jeremy Guthrie on here!! He was an amazing mission president and get church leader now!!
Who can members go to when leaders don't care or believe someone is depressed?
Some youth in all religions have trouble when there non member friends want them to do other things on Sundays but lots are returning back to church and the church is growing because the don't like the hate and exagerations in these antimormon podcasts it's bad when you never say just one nice thing about a beautiful church
I am an exmormon and don’t have depression at all. I live a full happy life and I enjoy every minute. Blaming antis for depression is ridiculous.
While the youth are struggling, adult men are actually struggling more. The demographic in the Church with the highest risk of self-harm is members of the Elder's quorum, especially the recently divorced.
If we stop pandering to feminists and fix our families. These issues will solve themselves.
Everyone in the world is having strain and trials. BUT.. if you took the statistics of all the members in the world and found which area has the highest in depression and other mental disorders, I would bet money that Utah leads in every statistic. There is a bubble there that is hard to explain. Most of the youth in general don’t have to develop thicker skin because they are surrounded by their same faith. Development of emotional strength from friction, handling social differences. The competition alone for best in class mixed with self judgment would cause anyone to have issues.
As a practicing physician for as long as he has, he has injured missionaries mandating the jab. 🤦🏼♀️ when will it stop?!
Our child suffered severe anxiety on their mission. They had very little anxiety before they went. The only help they got was the mission president contacting Elder Kevin Pearson who told him "send them home!" Thanks a lot Kevin! Almost every missionary we've know who has come home early makes up some physical ailment so they aren't shunned by the membership.
I wish I never got the jab & it gave me complications.
I was at a park once & heard people arguing about their Prophet if they should get the Jab or not. One person said they prayed about it & it didn’t feel right. Another person said that the Prophet represents Christ & should get it.
I only listen to God & I felt I shouldn’t get it but if I didn’t I couldn’t go to a family gathering. I found out some of my cousins didn’t get the Jab & some got the virus visiting an Amish store they think.
Yeah the church leaders are full blown western medicine/vax/pharma drugs. They forget their roots
Who can a member go to when leaders don't care or believe someone with depression?
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It’s kinda of odd to shift the blame on Kevin for a member’s decision to not be honest about why they’ve returned home from their mission, that’s on the individual. If people were more honest about the real reason for coming home there would be less of a stigma. I don’t see why his counsel for the missionary to go home is a bad thing, perhaps it’s case by case. Can’t really assume he tells every missionary struggling with anxiety the same thing
24:27. In The Endowment...
How can I get this in a format for my son on a mission. RUclips is not allowed. Any help to share other ways would be awesome.
Can you copy the transcript onto Word for him?
Using my husband's account to comment--What is the info about counseling available through the church now, that is no charge?
It would be nice if it would end. What is He waiting for.
Can you copy the transcript into a Word document for him?
Remind the youth of who they are. Sons and daughters of God. He loves them and wants them to be happy and to succeed. Every day they need to be hearing this. Teach them that they need to be blameless and that comes because of repentance every day. And because we repent we become righteous this is all because of Jesus Christ the Holy Son of God. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. That whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
When our youth are being bombed everyday with negitive things. That they are something or someone they are not, we need to remind them other wise over and over again.
I don't think that we have the right framework to deal with the core issues around self worth problems that we percieve are within us.
Identify and then Eradicate these false opinions or stories we have within us, and connecting with ourself, Christ and others is way easier. One must learn to love thenself first, before we can love another.
Experts such as Dr Gabor Maté, Tony Robbins, or Marissa Peers are some excellent sources of expertise on this topic.
*Latter-day Saint Youth
The Church of Jesus Christ 's youth😊
Mormon kids is the correct term.
Depression is from a lack of vitamins, minerals, hormones, neurotransmitters. Typically after a long winter, vitamin D3 is deficient and 200 processes in the body can't function without vitamin D3. One can't absorb Vitamin D without magnesium. And if one doesn't have vitamin D, they can not absorb Testosterone, nor can they absorb Cortisol, the stress hormone. And doctors are doing a great disservice by not testing all vitamins and minerals, hormones and neurotransmitters to figure out what is wrong with people.
AMEN to that!!!
Some of these comments are so frustrating. They are completely missing the point and over simplifying the problem. These comments only increase stigma.
Saying that Jesus is the answer is not always the answer. Let's put it this way. I absolutely know that. God the father lives and he loves me and I know Jesus Christ without hesitation. When I have to do a certain job which requires me to be in a lift up 20 ft the noise of the anxiety while being in that position is so loud that the anxiety shakes me to the point where I almost give up. Our weaknesses are for a purpose, and we chose these weaknesses while we were in the pre-existence and we need to appreciate them and embrace them so that we can become strong.
Solution: YOUTH, LOSE YOUR SMARTPHONE
Show us how.
No speaking about really changing your diet, meditation, exercises, proper thinking, getting in nature, helpful and beneficial hobbies. Just drugs and health professionals.
Those are important things. But I think there is still a section of the population who thinks medication for mental health is taboo, yet there are situations where medication is important.
@@hayteren medication is not just taboo its a band-aid.
Did you overlook the comments about being guided and healed by the Son of God ¿¿ What is "meditation" when compared to heaven sent power and grace ¿¿