The Zohar seems to be very similar to descriptions of the Arc of the Covenant as well. A sort of vessel where the one true God resides that can be used to accomplish anything but will kill anyone who attempts to open it
Really great video and a good summary of what we know before Xenoblade 3. All these connections to deep and interesting themes of religion/philosophy and physics is exactly why I love the Xeno series so much.
The description of the phase shift phenomenon is basically identical to how the Infinite Improbability Drive works in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series. For reference, they were able to invent the Infinite Improbability Drive by finding the exact probability of inventing it, and plugging that into a Finite Improbability Drive (if I recall correctly)
I swear, as this video started and I started to question what the Zohar could be, I said out loud, “oh, a monolith?” Then it hit me why Monolithsoft choose their name!! Hahaha. Years, and I just got that. Then the video kept going explaining this and I laughed even harder!
This is dope, I feel like I haven't seen nearly enough discussion about the Zohar! I've finished all the Xenoblade games now, and I know I need to go back and play Gears and Saga, but those ones seem pretty intimidating to me right now. It's awesome to have resources like this to understand what I need to know about the connections between the Xeno worlds!
Xenosaga’s biblical ties is why I studied Judaism in undergrad, so naturally I find videos like this exciting! Also, me not ever connecting U-DO and Alvis until this video … 🤯.
_Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality')_ I recommend researching 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!! The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till. ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition). SUMMARY: Evil personality: ESFJ (ALL), ESTJ (cluster-b) [Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict (and at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. 🙏🏾 PS: ESFJ are Amber Heard behind the public mask. ___________ #Save_Soil
Based, was raised Catholic and after playing gears decided to do extensive homework on religion in general. It’s amazing what you can grasp from the Xeno series knowing such a thing.
This video really needs to be updated after the XC3 Future Redeemed, at least I could fit some pieces after seeing the XC3 story + Future Redeemed. Great video
Thanks so much to you and all the other lovely commenters! This was definitely one of my favorite videos to make and I definitely have more in the pipeline!
omg I feel the exact same way!! It’s so freaky and makes me not even want to look at it without preparing my mind for the intense rabbit hole this series is 😭😩
Thank you so much for this incredible video!!! I have loved Xenosaga since I was young. I still love it and I am so glad to know what that Zohar actually was. It's more connected to my life than I ever realised. Thank you again!!
4:48 to link Xenoblade X together with the rest, I would suggest the most likely candidate for the Zohar to be the Great One that the Ganglion were searching for. Shame it wasn't properly shown in any cutscenes. (maybe one day we'll get an XCX2)
12:19 I'll talk about it. It's NOT a Zohar. NOT an Emulator. It's literally JUST a power convertor, taking energy from 5th Jerusalem's traditional power grid and converting it to something Omega was designed to use. A bit like a car battery inverter that lets you run household electronics from, well, a car battery. Nowhere near as much 'potential' electricity power mains have, but enough to run your refrigerator for a few hours. I said car battery instead of generator, because it was implied that it had to be 'recharged' between tests.
Fun thing to think about with final boss of Xenosaga 3 being Omega and the possibility of being parallel to Alpha of Xenoblade 3, and the Endless Now/Aionios occurs within that time. Xenosaga series takes place in 2-3 years, ending in 7278 AD. So the Conduit disappearing in Xenoblade 2 (about minimum 15 years difference for Rex to grow up to 18 + time for characters like Glimmer to grow up to 11, at least) makes it convenient for Zohar appearances in Xenosaga.
Spoiler for xenoblade 3: Oddly enough, the conduit/ Zohar does not appear. Though, when it disappeared, alrest and xb1’s world set course to remerge. This would destroy both worlds in the collision Odder still, Melia and Mia contracted origin as a super computer that would collect the souls of both worlds and restart them both into a unified one. They basically made their own monolith that is separate from the Zohar, and shaped spherical, but with similar reality changing powers. I assume that the somehow emulated the power of the Zohar to build this gigantic spherical monolith. Unfortunately, like in xenosaga, the collective human unconscious feared losing their lives in the merger and formed a gnosis-like being called moebius that’s full power is contained within origin. It’s strange. It’s as though XB3 intentionally fused several xenogears together. N= Grahf + Id. Noah and Mo= fei and elly. Origin= deus+ gnosis. Moebius Z= the wave existence+ gnosis. Moebius consols= gazel ministry+Cain. Ouroboros fusions and Every feronis= gears
Man, I can see so many parallels in XC3 with Xenogears and Xenosaga; XC1 and XC2 seemed like they established universes with their respective stories, while XC3 tells the true story that Tetsuya Takahashi has always envisioned throughout the Xeno series, using the worlds of XC1 and XC2… The concept of fear, uncertainty, power, regret, human existence, and the will of moving on together hand in hand… I love how his ambition and themes from the past Xeno series is still evidently shown in XC3 through both a modern and nostalgic way :)
I've always seen the names of Xenoblade's Trinity processor much more simply and literally: Logos- the Word Pnuema- the Spirit Ontos- Being (or I am that I am)
wich formed the unvierse of Xenoblade 1 and 2 and reunited in the 3, so that mean the xenoblade could be the past, xenogear the present and xenosaga the future of the timeline ? or everythign could be happening at the same time ?
@@Bayonet1809 the black marker is an alien object which was buried for million of years was found in mexico. It is a source of limitless energy but it has the ability to re animate dead corpse. While the zohar is somewhat benevolent the marker is malevolent
I'm planning on Abridging the Xenoblade Chronicles games and need help with making sure the jokes and whatnot are lore accurate and make sense. I'm also remixing the games OSTs for the project and already have a team of editors voice actors and currently only need a 3d animator for a specific part of the project as well as a few people that know the lore of the games really well like yourself and Luxin who I messaged a while back and might possibly have on board at least partially so far.
Let me know if you would be interested in collaborating on my Abridged Series that intends to cover Xenoblade Chronicles 1, 2, X, and 3, and any and All extra stories.
@@PyraJord You actually get a direct trip to the spirit realm and essentially die. Mira may unironically be in Xenoblade's equivalent of the imaginary domain so that's not even that impossible. I've seen people theorize that Mira is a purgatory of sorts since the release of XCX.
Bender: _"Do you know what I'm going to do before I do it?"_ God: _"Yes."_ Bender: _"What if I do something different?"_ God: _"Then I don't know that."_
Wow. Very good video. Xenosaga has been one of my favorite game series since the first one came out and there's so much to ponder over and discuss. This was a great video to really get the wheels moving again. Thanks is all, I suppose.
This video needs an update. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 has made X part of the mainstream canon. In fact, it ties all the Xeno games together. To be specific, Future Redeemed.
I mean the lifehold core in Xenoblade X did have the conduit shape within it. Whether a fun nod to XC1 which came before it or intentional choice for a XCX2 sequel that never came to be, we will never know. Spoilers for XCX now so stop reading:......It was developed with knowledge of an advanced race so the fact they might have seen the conduit out there is a possibility.
Pretty much the Zohar the consciousness is inside of it is God but somehow also connected to U-DO And I assume they were separate entities , but they’re actually the same thing because the game made it look like they were separate when they were the same thing. Which made it very confusing, because my original theory is they were the same thing. But the game said otherwise, that characters thought U-DO that’s a completely separate entity from God and I just assumed that until now.😅😅😅😅😅🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Now ask yourself what was “Z” in Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Not the Zohar of course, but what was trapped? I believe it’s the U-DO/Wave existence. Z though is fear, hatred and so on trapped inside the games “Zohar” to be released and understood by the party?
Origin is meant to be a sort of new man made Zohar of sorts. In many ways, it’s just as powerful as the conduit/Zohar since it literally made the world of aonios. Considering that it was suppose to absorb the souls of the people who would die when the universe merged, and the fear from those souls created Z, I’d said Z is more like a gnosis. His true presence never leaves origin either, so he’s like a fusion of gnosis from xenosaga and the wave existence of man made origin.
The zohar in Xenogears is not a gateway, and in xenosaga it is not an energy source. you are combining the lore from different series. in xenogears it is a nearly infinite energy source, in xenosaga it is a gateway used to syphon energy from the upper domain.
It fucking pains me that public perception of the Xeno series and hype for Xenoblade 3 has been sullied, due to Dunkey hating 2 (which tbh I don’t really blame him for disliking that game) and then believing the rest of franchise is just pervy weeb trash. It PAINS me. I’m really excited for Blade 3 and I’m hoping it’s more like 1 in tone than 2
Here’s from the future. It’s definitely more like XB1. Darker in story, and tone, I’d say. It’s conveyed in the muted colors and more somber soundtrack
@@Iriseon He definitely is one of the bigger voices depicting the entire series as weeb trash which is ironic because of his videos was praising Xenogears. Xenoblade has a lot of the same themes and storytelling, but you won't get it at the surface level. You have to replay the games and think carefully about the overall themes and characters to understand what's being told. Even 2 a lot of the criticisms were people brushing it off on a surface level instead of trying to actually understand the story. 2 so far has introduced most of the core lore. 1 gave no context to Onthos until 2 gave it that context. Same for what is a Monado, that is also something clarified in 2. The Zohar, the multiverse, and concepts like how life data can be stored into something and given sentience (Blades), the importance of that life data on the evolution of living creatures. And also themes like how mankind is capable of stepping into the realm of gods and the implications of that. This is expanded on in 3 with Origin where mankind understood the concepts behind core crystals and gained the technology to use them. Also that life data can be recycled indefinitely and leave lasting impacts on the soul of that being (same stuff Takahashi did for Xenogears). How they were able to do this is something that'll likely be explained in the DLC. It's why people saying Aionios doesn't matter is silly. Do you even Takahashi? You have two worlds of people who went through countless reincarnation cycles where they were exposed to constant war and needing to fight for their lives. There will be consequences of that. What that will be, probably that'll be looked at in Xenoblade 4.
@@24hr-GamingThe majority of the current lore, that is. You did not need context to Onthos when Onthos did not even exist yet. I am not saying that the post-XC2 lore is bad or even that the changes that 3 made to it are, but it is very clear that XC1 standalone was actually very diffrent. It was a remix of the concepts employed in Xenogears that is sometimes a direct inversion of what those concepts meant over there, while XC2 swapped it around for the series playing the parallels straight and the endresult differs.
In what way? The only mass-scale change to the lore that I remember is that the world of XC2 is simply a destroyed version of earth while it is another pocket dimension outside the regular universe in 3. And that makes sense, 2 and 3 were both conceptualized and mostly written alongside each other during the production of X, so any changes between them should infact be minimal(As opposed to Torna which was largely written after XC2, so it has a lot more inconsistencies to speak of.)
@@vaporlav No, still hold up. As good as it was to have favorite characters in the party again, the side story leaves the player with more questions than answers! Yes, the easter eggs were fan faivorote, but the actual lore for XC3 was lacking and disappointing.
It was kinda always obvious for it to have nothing to do with the conduit. It left already and it does not make sense to say "yo, it suddenly returned". It is kinda like how a theoretical Xenogears EP6 would have nothing to do with it directly, because the whole point of EP5 was to get rid of it.
Xenosaga had a time loop that served to prevent the end of the universe... A sort of "endless now," huh...
The xeno series raises many deep philosophical questions like "what if god was a rectangle?"
bahahahaha
That is true. People always have a lot of questions about the world.
Haaa, took me a bit to get it, good one.
Always figured he was a triangle considering the trinity lol
My favorite 90s hit single
The Zohar seems to be very similar to descriptions of the Arc of the Covenant as well. A sort of vessel where the one true God resides that can be used to accomplish anything but will kill anyone who attempts to open it
Ohhhh, the year the Zohar was dug up was a 2001: A Space Odyssey reference. Neat.
Hearing you talk about the zohar and the demierge really put xenoblade 1 into perspective with zanza. Thanks for that.
Really great video and a good summary of what we know before Xenoblade 3. All these connections to deep and interesting themes of religion/philosophy and physics is exactly why I love the Xeno series so much.
Awesome video! Love to hear about the lore of the Xeno series. Hoping Xenoblade 3 adds to an already amazing series
But really, Xenoblade 3^2=9.
Ohoho it did
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged The lore dump radio cometh.
The description of the phase shift phenomenon is basically identical to how the Infinite Improbability Drive works in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series.
For reference, they were able to invent the Infinite Improbability Drive by finding the exact probability of inventing it, and plugging that into a Finite Improbability Drive (if I recall correctly)
I swear, as this video started and I started to question what the Zohar could be, I said out loud, “oh, a monolith?” Then it hit me why Monolithsoft choose their name!! Hahaha. Years, and I just got that. Then the video kept going explaining this and I laughed even harder!
This is dope, I feel like I haven't seen nearly enough discussion about the Zohar! I've finished all the Xenoblade games now, and I know I need to go back and play Gears and Saga, but those ones seem pretty intimidating to me right now. It's awesome to have resources like this to understand what I need to know about the connections between the Xeno worlds!
I have always loved stories involving ancient relics that have like a universe level significance. The Zohar/conduit is one of my favourites.
Xenosaga’s biblical ties is why I studied Judaism in undergrad, so naturally I find videos like this exciting! Also, me not ever connecting U-DO and Alvis until this video … 🤯.
_Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality')_
I recommend researching 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)!
European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!
The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till.
ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition).
SUMMARY:
Evil personality: ESFJ (ALL), ESTJ (cluster-b)
[Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL).
☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict (and at other people's expense, truly evil).
Spread the word! Thank you. 🙏🏾
PS: ESFJ are Amber Heard behind the public mask.
___________
#Save_Soil
Based, was raised Catholic and after playing gears decided to do extensive homework on religion in general. It’s amazing what you can grasp from the Xeno series knowing such a thing.
This is Gnosticism.
@@Human_01making a call to rationality while using the MBTI is truely camp.
Awesome video, great recap of all we know about the Zohar so far. I can’t wait to learn more about it in September when XC3 comes out!
Edit: JULY!!!!!
I just found this channel and I love it already
This video really needs to be updated after the XC3 Future Redeemed, at least I could fit some pieces after seeing the XC3 story + Future Redeemed. Great video
Seriously underrated video, cannot believe there are so few views.
So well made
I have a Zohar USB flash drive.
Bro is trying to destroy the universe 😭
@@door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978 custom made or just bought? I also want to tease the option of pulling a Klaus.
@@personontheinternet2164 with a malware that can rekt the universe data base
Bravo! Excellent summary demonstrating a deep understanding of Takahashi's vision for this crux of the Xenoverse! More please!
Thanks so much to you and all the other lovely commenters! This was definitely one of my favorite videos to make and I definitely have more in the pipeline!
Dragonball confirmed connected
The life-pods in Xenoblade X are Zohar shaped I think
i love seeing more xeno lore videos
Love this content and the way you present it is amazing too
Agreed
God Zohar is such a badass and ominous name I can't see it or say it without chills of something greater than me running down my back
omg I feel the exact same way!! It’s so freaky and makes me not even want to look at it without preparing my mind for the intense rabbit hole this series is 😭😩
Don't Mess with the Zohar
@@CraigOrangeSodaDISCO DISCO!
Man I can’t believe this series started on the Nintendo Polystation! Such a promising start and it’s been quality all the way
Well except maybe Saga II
Ok I’ll admit it I just wanted to say “Nintendo Polystation” because muh funny bootlegs
Thank you so much for this incredible video!!! I have loved Xenosaga since I was young. I still love it and I am so glad to know what that Zohar actually was. It's more connected to my life than I ever realised. Thank you again!!
"In this life, you must be oh-so clever or oh-so pleasant. Now for years I was clever; I recommend pleasant."
4:48 to link Xenoblade X together with the rest, I would suggest the most likely candidate for the Zohar to be the Great One that the Ganglion were searching for. Shame it wasn't properly shown in any cutscenes. (maybe one day we'll get an XCX2)
12:19 I'll talk about it. It's NOT a Zohar. NOT an Emulator.
It's literally JUST a power convertor, taking energy from 5th Jerusalem's traditional power grid and converting it to something Omega was designed to use.
A bit like a car battery inverter that lets you run household electronics from, well, a car battery.
Nowhere near as much 'potential' electricity power mains have, but enough to run your refrigerator for a few hours. I said car battery instead of generator, because it was implied that it had to be 'recharged' between tests.
Thanks for this guys.
Big fan of the Genre since
1991.
Fun thing to think about with final boss of Xenosaga 3 being Omega and the possibility of being parallel to Alpha of Xenoblade 3, and the Endless Now/Aionios occurs within that time. Xenosaga series takes place in 2-3 years, ending in 7278 AD. So the Conduit disappearing in Xenoblade 2 (about minimum 15 years difference for Rex to grow up to 18 + time for characters like Glimmer to grow up to 11, at least) makes it convenient for Zohar appearances in Xenosaga.
Ahh the ‘Xeno’ series, my favorite game series and 2001: A Space Odyssey, my favorite movie (alongside End of Evangelion)
Spoiler for xenoblade 3:
Oddly enough, the conduit/ Zohar does not appear. Though, when it disappeared, alrest and xb1’s world set course to remerge. This would destroy both worlds in the collision Odder still, Melia and Mia contracted origin as a super computer that would collect the souls of both worlds and restart them both into a unified one. They basically made their own monolith that is separate from the Zohar, and shaped spherical, but with similar reality changing powers. I assume that the somehow emulated the power of the Zohar to build this gigantic spherical monolith. Unfortunately, like in xenosaga, the collective human unconscious feared losing their lives in the merger and formed a gnosis-like being called moebius that’s full power is contained within origin.
It’s strange. It’s as though XB3 intentionally fused several xenogears together. N= Grahf + Id. Noah and Mo= fei and elly. Origin= deus+ gnosis. Moebius Z= the wave existence+ gnosis. Moebius consols= gazel ministry+Cain. Ouroboros fusions and Every feronis= gears
Man, I can see so many parallels in XC3 with Xenogears and Xenosaga;
XC1 and XC2 seemed like they established universes with their respective stories, while XC3 tells the true story that Tetsuya Takahashi has always envisioned throughout the Xeno series, using the worlds of XC1 and XC2… The concept of fear, uncertainty, power, regret, human existence, and the will of moving on together hand in hand…
I love how his ambition and themes from the past Xeno series is still evidently shown in XC3 through both a modern and nostalgic way :)
After playing 3 and knowing the broader concepts of the metaverse, Ouroboros is Monolith giving us mech combat back. That's awesome
@@pyrojinn Xenoblade X: "What am I, chopped liver?"
Origin was created using the crystal of Ontos (Alvis).
it maybe exists in XCX too because all those weird shits that happens in Mira.
I've always seen the names of Xenoblade's Trinity processor much more simply and literally:
Logos- the Word
Pnuema- the Spirit
Ontos- Being (or I am that I am)
See you in 3 xenosaga games
I had no idea Xenobits was a Bamco character
The earth disappearing in Xenosaga was Klaus' Experiment
wich formed the unvierse of Xenoblade 1 and 2 and reunited in the 3, so that mean the xenoblade could be the past, xenogear the present and xenosaga the future of the timeline ?
or everythign could be happening at the same time ?
"You Don't Mess With The Zohar"
4:45 include dead space in that list too😂
Forgive my ignorance, but how does Dead Space relate?
@@Bayonet1809 the black marker is an alien object which was buried for million of years was found in mexico. It is a source of limitless energy but it has the ability to re animate dead corpse. While the zohar is somewhat benevolent the marker is malevolent
@@Bayonet1809 although the black marker was destroyed by
Michael altman humans were able to replicate them. They are called red markers
@@dhruvo100 I see, so red markers are kind of like Zohar Emulators.
@@Bayonet1809 yes
I'm planning on Abridging the Xenoblade Chronicles games and need help with making sure the jokes and whatnot are lore accurate and make sense. I'm also remixing the games OSTs for the project and already have a team of editors voice actors and currently only need a 3d animator for a specific part of the project as well as a few people that know the lore of the games really well like yourself and Luxin who I messaged a while back and might possibly have on board at least partially so far.
Let me know if you would be interested in collaborating on my Abridged Series that intends to cover Xenoblade Chronicles 1, 2, X, and 3, and any and All extra stories.
Did this plan go somewhere?
@lpfan4491 it's still in the works I have just been extremely busy with life I should have some time soon starting around October
Before the radio: This is cool!
Post radio: .... well
XC 3 will finally allow us to touch Conduit
Bet on it
Please do not touch you will die.
If you touch the conduit... you disappear. Where do you go? Mira...
'Its something about this planet'
😂😂
@@PyraJord You actually get a direct trip to the spirit realm and essentially die. Mira may unironically be in Xenoblade's equivalent of the imaginary domain so that's not even that impossible. I've seen people theorize that Mira is a purgatory of sorts since the release of XCX.
@@XenoBits touch funny shape, fuck it we ball.
Expanding the lore through the Zohar
Monolith Soft: "I sleep."
Expanding the lore through a random radio
Monolith Soft: "REAL SH*T!!!"
Bender: _"Do you know what I'm going to do before I do it?"_
God: _"Yes."_
Bender: _"What if I do something different?"_
God: _"Then I don't know that."_
One of the greatest shows ever made.
@@XenoBits Agreed, plus every time sometime mentions god, I think of that quote. 😹
This vid is amazing
This aged very well.
Love the zohar videos.
Ha shulk had one o these in his lab till Reyne cut it in half in Xenoblade
Lovely reference.
Awsome
Wow. Very good video. Xenosaga has been one of my favorite game series since the first one came out and there's so much to ponder over and discuss. This was a great video to really get the wheels moving again. Thanks is all, I suppose.
>How many times has it been now...?
Xenogears music, luv it
So the Zohar being like the Monolith wasn’t just a coincidence? They were even both found in Africa if I remember correctly.
This video needs an update. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 has made X part of the mainstream canon. In fact, it ties all the Xeno games together.
To be specific, Future Redeemed.
I mean the lifehold core in Xenoblade X did have the conduit shape within it. Whether a fun nod to XC1 which came before it or intentional choice for a XCX2 sequel that never came to be, we will never know.
Spoilers for XCX now so stop reading:......It was developed with knowledge of an advanced race so the fact they might have seen the conduit out there is a possibility.
Criminally under viewed video
Pretty much the Zohar the consciousness is inside of it is God but somehow also connected to U-DO
And I assume they were separate entities , but they’re actually the same thing because the game made it look like they were separate when they were the same thing.
Which made it very confusing, because my original theory is they were the same thing.
But the game said otherwise, that characters thought U-DO that’s a completely separate entity from God and I just assumed that until now.😅😅😅😅😅🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ontos returns
I got here trying to find potato recipes on RUclips 😂 but I'm totally amazed at the thought that God is associated with a Conduit-Chip Device? 😳
Now ask yourself what was “Z” in Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Not the Zohar of course, but what was trapped?
I believe it’s the U-DO/Wave existence.
Z though is fear, hatred and so on trapped inside the games “Zohar” to be released and understood by the party?
Origin is meant to be a sort of new man made Zohar of sorts. In many ways, it’s just as powerful as the conduit/Zohar since it literally made the world of aonios. Considering that it was suppose to absorb the souls of the people who would die when the universe merged, and the fear from those souls created Z, I’d said Z is more like a gnosis. His true presence never leaves origin either, so he’s like a fusion of gnosis from xenosaga and the wave existence of man made origin.
this game a lot of religious references
The zohar in Xenogears is not a gateway, and in xenosaga it is not an energy source. you are combining the lore from different series. in xenogears it is a nearly infinite energy source, in xenosaga it is a gateway used to syphon energy from the upper domain.
Perfect video to watch in bed
Exactly what I'm going
Heh. Watch XCX DE somehow tie into this.
It fucking pains me that public perception of the Xeno series and hype for Xenoblade 3 has been sullied, due to Dunkey hating 2 (which tbh I don’t really blame him for disliking that game) and then believing the rest of franchise is just pervy weeb trash.
It PAINS me.
I’m really excited for Blade 3 and I’m hoping it’s more like 1 in tone than 2
Here’s from the future. It’s definitely more like XB1. Darker in story, and tone, I’d say. It’s conveyed in the muted colors and more somber soundtrack
It's has the seriousness Gears has at times.
Imagine thinking Dunkey influences normal people against Xenoblade 3, especially after seeing how many copies it sold.
@@Iriseon He definitely is one of the bigger voices depicting the entire series as weeb trash which is ironic because of his videos was praising Xenogears. Xenoblade has a lot of the same themes and storytelling, but you won't get it at the surface level. You have to replay the games and think carefully about the overall themes and characters to understand what's being told. Even 2 a lot of the criticisms were people brushing it off on a surface level instead of trying to actually understand the story.
2 so far has introduced most of the core lore. 1 gave no context to Onthos until 2 gave it that context. Same for what is a Monado, that is also something clarified in 2. The Zohar, the multiverse, and concepts like how life data can be stored into something and given sentience (Blades), the importance of that life data on the evolution of living creatures. And also themes like how mankind is capable of stepping into the realm of gods and the implications of that.
This is expanded on in 3 with Origin where mankind understood the concepts behind core crystals and gained the technology to use them. Also that life data can be recycled indefinitely and leave lasting impacts on the soul of that being (same stuff Takahashi did for Xenogears). How they were able to do this is something that'll likely be explained in the DLC. It's why people saying Aionios doesn't matter is silly. Do you even Takahashi? You have two worlds of people who went through countless reincarnation cycles where they were exposed to constant war and needing to fight for their lives. There will be consequences of that. What that will be, probably that'll be looked at in Xenoblade 4.
@@24hr-GamingThe majority of the current lore, that is. You did not need context to Onthos when Onthos did not even exist yet. I am not saying that the post-XC2 lore is bad or even that the changes that 3 made to it are, but it is very clear that XC1 standalone was actually very diffrent.
It was a remix of the concepts employed in Xenogears that is sometimes a direct inversion of what those concepts meant over there, while XC2 swapped it around for the series playing the parallels straight and the endresult differs.
Well so much for that story with the multiverse theories and all. Xenoblade 3 ended all that . New beginnings now
XC3 really butchered the lore and had the weakest story out of all the Xeno games.
In what way? The only mass-scale change to the lore that I remember is that the world of XC2 is simply a destroyed version of earth while it is another pocket dimension outside the regular universe in 3. And that makes sense, 2 and 3 were both conceptualized and mostly written alongside each other during the production of X, so any changes between them should infact be minimal(As opposed to Torna which was largely written after XC2, so it has a lot more inconsistencies to speak of.)
23:40 Man, you must have been disappointed when XC3 came out as it has the weakest lore and nothing to do with the conduit.
this aged kinda poorly now that we have future redeemed 😭
@@vaporlav No, still hold up. As good as it was to have favorite characters in the party again, the side story leaves the player with more questions than answers!
Yes, the easter eggs were fan faivorote, but the actual lore for XC3 was lacking and disappointing.
It was kinda always obvious for it to have nothing to do with the conduit. It left already and it does not make sense to say "yo, it suddenly returned". It is kinda like how a theoretical Xenogears EP6 would have nothing to do with it directly, because the whole point of EP5 was to get rid of it.
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Xenogears Zohar >>>>>>>> every other Zohar.
Also, Big Joe.
...welp time to understand and infodump about every facet of xeno like dudes with metal gear. stealing copies of saga and gears...eventually.
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Why did his voice go from regular guy to very high pitched and weird mid video? Kind of threw me off
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Its a different person lmao. 😊
I couldn’t stand xenogears it’s so full of itself it’s unbearable
As opposed to the garbage that is the xenoblades? Gears was a masterpiece.
Imagine being either of those standpoints.