Why it "felt scripted" is because it came from the heart, soul and mind at the same time and the man was 100% sincere and in the moment. No fear. The man was speaking truth without interference.
@@JohnDoe-bi5cc I went back to rewatch and Lathan was doing that temper tantrum shake while he tried to silence Kanye. You only do that baby shake when you're wrong and desperate but want to sound correct. I grew up around lying, close-minded, and desperate people all of my life and that's just how it is.
OMG Van speaking all my words and expressing all my feelings. I felt the same way about Kanye years back. I was so so glad you spoke up. Keep speaking up. We need more of you.
I took it different, and maybe I misunderstood, but I thought he said slavery is a choice not was. I could be mistaken but I took it as he was referring to the labels and the negative hip hop we glorify, like we are slaves to this fake culture. I honestly don't think he meant slaves on a boat being shipped from Africa. I dont know that's how I took it. 🙏
Kanye a hero van joke ..hello Haitian had a choice stay slaves or fight take over country .do u think American blacks had that choice all fight to the death or. Nah no thanks ..so why ya mad at Kanye I know cause it makes Americans black look chicken. .but don't feel that way ..
@@ladybugjones76 No that's a lie He slandered Harriet Tubman who unlike Kanye worked her entire life, sacrificed and put her own health and freedom at risk consistently to help free slaves. Unlike Ye who only thinks and cares about himself . Bye Troll
Van is a bright brother. I’ve been blessed to have shared space with powerful brown and black folk. They carry themselves a certain way, the speak a certain way, they’re able to express thought beautifully. They took the time to invest in themselves through education and brought it back to the community. Strengthen your voice and your spirit through knowledge, brothers and sisters. Brother Van didn’t just wake up with the right words to say, he worked hard, dedicated hours towards his education, and when the opportunity arose he was able to step up.
respect and honesty....who would've thought the two could co-exist, usually it's i respect this person so i deflect from the truth of wrongdoings or i'm honest about the wrongdoings in a disrespectful fashion, salute to van lathan, his point about being weaponized was spot on
The maturity level, their communicative style, the intelligence they were throwing dn as well as the other side of the brain- speaking not Only Truth, their individual human-ness creating a room (world) full of compassion, identifying true emotional pain felt personally within theirselves and also compassionately Recognizing others and "they" show huge respect ,regardless of whether they agree or not , even of the most sensitive subjects, beliefs that can be addressed or for that matter, not. It was clear that they both chose to Love, disagree and continue growing, moving through this life giving only success in doing so. And..."WE" get to witness as well as Learn with them. Thank you gentlemen. ❤❤
What's clear from this, is that Van was WAAAAAAAY over qualified and his intellect WAS/IS on a whole other level from anything going on over @TMZ. What was he doing over there at that job when he can be working at Democracy Now?!!! SO much respect for Van. Losing that job will be a game changer for ya, Van! It's only upupup from here!
Van is the man, he really shut Yay down in a very intellectual, and coherent way. I was so proud of Vann. Keep moving brother your voice is much needed.
I agree with Trevor 1000% My mom suffered from mental illness as well and was Unmedicated throughout our childhood and most of my adult years. I didn’t truly meet my mother until 2 years before she transitioned and was religiously on her medication. Even suffering dementia and Parkinson’s, she was the mother that I wished I had grown up with but, my grandchildren were blessed to meet a great-grandmother that they could love and who showed a beautiful live for them. It was then, and only then, that I could forgive my mom for my damaged upbringing. But as for Kanye West, it’s shameful that everyone around him, the media and also his fans, are taking advantage of him and using him as entertainment and a media circus event. This poor man has admitted on several occasions in the past, that he suffers from mental illness, genuine mental illness, and no one cares? Hee hee haa haa, Kanye West just said something else insane on the news! Since when is mental illness a joke? People disgust me. When he’s dead from spiraling as far down as he can go, the media and fans will be sooo sad, sooo shocked. Ugh! Disgusting!!
He would have to be CRAZY to say what he said. RIGHT?!?!?! And anyone who looks and says, oh yeah, exactly what he said would happen came true... That person has got IT ALL WRONG, right? Get outta here with that gulag chit.
Is it sooooooo crazy that exactly what he said would happen is now happening? Are YOU too crazy to see the machine that is now taking everything away from him INCLUDING CANCELING HIS GODDAMN BANK ACCOUNT?!?!?!?! I don't know if you are a real person or just another arm of the apparatchik that is whipping the slave boy in front of the world, but either way, you're dead wrong with your claim of mental illness directed at Ye. HIS NAME IS YE NOW! I know you are probably the type that makes sure to call everyone by their pronouns, but you disrespect a man who made it VERY CLEAR that he has changed his name. I do think you should have your head examined though. Your refusal to see reality and your double standards and your hypocrisy are all forms of legitimate mental illness.
No, not all. That's a major problem believing all blk people think the same and if a black person thinks differently, we call them sellouts. We won't reach anywhere with group thinking, every other race can have difference of opinion without being called sellouts. We the only ones who think we she have a hive mind. Democrats did create the kkk and the biggest lie is believing they switched sides. People actually believe that the leaders of confederates/democrats who wanted to keep us enslaved switched sides. The leaders of religion and politics never switch sides, only their followers may switch but the leaders never have in history. If you don't believe it, they still use the same strategy of using race to divide us. They only switched on convincing whites to hate blacks, to blacks to hate whites. They tell us they switched sides so we can hate those that helped us beat them in the civil war.
Well stated truths and facts from Van Lathan! How can we be healing to each other, versus going at each other in the public’s eye! He’s sincere and loves his people! Salute and respect 💪🏾✡️🙏🏾
The way Kanye handled the response of Van Lathan was very touching. This is one reason I love Kanye so much. Suddenly he said "I think he needs a hug" and then walked up to Van Lathan and hugged him. Then when Van Lathan continued talking his points, Kanye did not react in anger once. It's Kanye's authenticity, compassionate side and realness that makes me love him so much. And then also that he expose the truth and his funny random moments and rants.
Wow! Powerful stuff! Big “ups” to both Talib & Van. I’d seen Van on TMZ, probably a dozen times or so, but I had no idea he was so deep & thoughtful. He definitely needs his own platform to spread his obviously advanced consciousness! This was a FANTASTIC, revealing, deeply intimate, & moving interview! Definitely got a new subscriber here! 👍🏽
Van my man..thank you brothers , this was a.most stimulating dialogue and I to as a negro woman dont like some of the vices or tactics society has put in place to play us against eachother, it saddens me as well to not know what's taking place around us that's why we have to educating ourselves on this world history, black history, and be involved in the right conversations with the right individuals so we can come to and be on common ground moving forward..again thank you for sharing, it was good❤💚🖤
I'm the Gap like Banana Republic and Old Navy and oooh it come out sweeter then Old Sadie. Aye I was a DIEHARD Kanye fan around the years of college dropout and everything up until he started to change. Thank you! For saying what we all were thinking. We ALL were hurt! 💯💯👏
Van is one of the best journalists out here man, and the Kanye situation is underrated. He stood up to Kanye west and Candace Owens when no one wanted to in that TMZ office
18:28 (make sure you listen until at least 18:50)...one of the deepest, most truest things I've heard....that is important and I think it should be spoken of often and loudly......thank you for those words Van.
Van saying "it's me, bro" recalls that scene in The Wire when Wallace tells Dee in the Pit, "This is me, yo, right here" after Dee was trying to tell him that there is a bigger world outside of Baltimore. Like, "I feel you, but this is all I know."
Totally agree with Van about Kanye's cultural importance throughout his career.....the mistake he makes is thinking that Kanye has gone off the rails- he's still very much on point and in 20 years Van will certainly realise this.
Thank you! We all didn't grow up in the same America; same time; same people. It's really how we respond to each others differences that's keeping us apart. It's taught by oppression.
Never be weaponized against other people. That's the game to keep the great divide. Van is correct , have a dialogue so healing and solutions can take place.
"I detest the slaveholder, and almost equally detest the contented slave. They are both enemies of freedom". - Frederick Douglass "Slavery for 400 years, 400 years, that sounds like a choice". - Kanye West "Can you hear it? The restless rustle of harsh terrain, bellowing like trumpets from the sole of a runaway slave, echoing endlessly through my veins". - Yeti the Prophet
I think we need to be careful with our choice of words about brother Kanye I don't approve with white lives matter all lives matter but what he said about the Jews that's the kicker right there
@@charlessmith8328 I don't agree with ANYTHING he's said in the last 15 years... Last thing Kanye said that I agreed with was "George Bush doesn't care about black people".. 😏😂😂😂
@@brainchild8626 I guess that's why you is you and me as me with the entities in this country I like hella what he had to say people just ain't getting it more shall be revealed
I love Ye.... He's so far above the civilians thought process.... I'm glad he's at least TRYING to explain his position but y'all not on his level... No disrespect to any of you... But he's in the stratosphere... Positive
When ever people would say that the KKK came from the democratic party my response was that the democrats were conservatives back then. I've been saying this for the longest. And people would just laugh at me. This is the first time I've heard someone else say this.
Kanye's thinking is light years ahead of the common mind. This has been his greatest challenge; that most cannot comprehend the depth of his statements....
but in actuality, he's actually light years behind the conversation within the black sphere, black intellectuals have been having these particular conversations for a very long time. from Booker t. Washington to adversarial engagement between Marcus Garvey and W. E. B. Du Bois etc( throughout the diaspora). these conversations have been had and understood quite well within the black community.kanye ignorance and is refusal to engage history properly, fuse his hubris that leads him to think He's the only one having this grand assessment and not realizing he's only an agent of history.
Kanye is not a genius he’s a musical artist that has been damaged and has a platform because of wealth / like having a church service on Sundays based on what ? Crazy
@@gamalielfasakin9700 ...why does everything have to be about black for Kanye.Kanye realizes that black people were sold from black people to black people and some white people. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT STRANDS OF WHITE PEOPLE...French,Irish, German,Polish,etc.Yall racist asses can't be that stupid.lol
I first heard Kanye at almost 60 years old and I couldn't quit listening, but I noticed after the car wreck he went south. Seems like the things he talked about was him due to himself.
I also heard Kanye and what he did with the t-shirts I don't approve but what he's saying about the Jews you better think twice as a race of people what's going on everybody coming from around the world we're still talking respirations God bless Kanye ye
I’m just curious, if Eminem came out saying slavery was a choice, would we all be running out to support him? If Em said he admired Hitler, would that be cool? Because, to like & admire Hitler, is supporting white supremacy. Hitler was building an Aryan nation. If Em started talkin madness like that, he’d lose us. Why do we have to stand with Kanye Waste? Just because he’s one of us? Nope! He’s a DOPE! 🙅🏽♀️
I am SURE people feel the SAME about you! If he is a dope ... tell us what MILDSTONES you have done in YOUR life or for the WORLD ... what GIFTS you gave? I know one thing YE made a billion and WE are still slaves .... SO WHO IS A DOPE! SMH See you can't see CLEARLY when you are seeing through ENVY and HATRED! EVERYTHING is a choice ... it maybe a choice between horrible choices but you ALWAYS have a choice.
@@dwe4507 🤣🤣🤣 you’re making a LOT of assumptions. I don’t owe you one iota of an explanation, BUT since you’ve asked, I do a LOT for my community & am actively involved in helping underprivileged youth. And, since you’re over here judging me, I imagine it’s because you do your share to help those who need help, right? Speak for yourself. I’m nobody’s slave. Now move along with your angry & judgmental self. Ciao!
@@ileana6281 So YOU say... I hope you are not working with children, you called a man you don't know, never met and will NEVER met a dope because the media who hates black people told you to. that is insane shows poor judgement and hatefulness. I made no assumptions I simple asked. who is judging you? LMBO YOU are judging YE and sentenced him to for speaking his mind and his truth and THE TRUTH. I would bet money that you have NEVER watched a full interview or any words that came from his mouth because only those that have not are ignorant to the facts that this man is speaking of LOVE , WEALTH and Unity for not only black people but all people. I wish sleepers wake up and stop being a FOLLOWER and do some research ... listen to the words from HIS mouth ... the full sentences not the cut up versions. For these dudes to be talking about YE saying slavery was a choice WITHOUT saying and SHOWING the full understanding of what he said and what he meant is just more buck dancing for massa - PERIOD! WE all have choices! And to survive we chose to be slaves - fact! YE is on different level than every dude in that room and US ... we have no understanding of him, is mind or his greatness. Tilib is lying! He use to be on Twitter calling whites all kinds of names, fighting with them and saying the most craziest mess! I stop following him because it was just nothing but HATE ... and hating on all the blacks that they want us to hate on ...which is how he got this platform .... and he is LYING again KKK was a big part of the DEM party and been using blacks to manipulate blacks into being a part of our own demise for decades! FACT! But he knows his audience ,,, they will not research ...they will just FOLLOW
YOUR WORDS - ''Because, to like & admire Hitler, is supporting white supremacy. Hitler was building an Aryan nation. If Em started talkin madness like that, he’d lose us. Why do we have to stand with Kanye Waste? Just because he’s one of us? Nope! He’s a DOPE! and YOUR WORDS right back at you '' Now move along with your angry & judgmental self. Ciao! SMH
@@tandy3443 And once again, you’re assuming 😏 I’ve listened to many of his interviews in full. I also work with folks that have mental illness. I recognize when someone is in the middle of a manic episode. That, however, doesn’t excuse nor justifies his crappy behavior. Someone can suffer from mental illness & be super kind, and altruistic. Conversely, someone can suffer from mental illness & be a raging narcissistic jerk. The latter describes your hero, Ye. BTW…never had any desire to know the guy & never will. There are plenty of black folks who are great & do great things. Scholars & educators with amazing minds & experiences, but do it out of the limelight. Ye is constantly seeking the media & cannot get out of his own way. As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words. If he is really interested in peace, love & unity, as you are lulled into believing because he’s saying those words, than riddle me this Batman: why has he secured Milo Yiannopoulos as his campaign manager? Why is he choosing to align himself with Nick Fuentes? His actions betray his words. But you go head on & hang on to your hero. I’ll continue on with the charity work I do helping those that are on the margins of society so that they may have a future & a better life. ✌🏽🖖🏽
Funny Van saying what Kayne said he has to deal with while working at TMZ spreading rumors gossip and has a history of reporting shit without all the facts first and other people have to deal with it lol. I wonder if they realize Kanye has been in circles for a while that these dude could never even get close to. He probably seen things he can never speak on. Did they ever think to ask a Kanye why he felt that way, or what has he seen to bring him to those conclusions? I doubt it. Good convo but there are many a holes in those parachutes yaw skydiving with in this discussion.
Yesssssss! See this is the comment I was looking for - use your brain people stop looking for the mouthpiece of our race make your own narrative! Yes to this comment this shows me you're a free thinker!
All you're doing is making excuses for the man. I don't doubt that Kanye has been introduced to culture that 99% if us will never understand. You know what I say to that? Who cares, so what? You want to get real here? Let's get real, the dude is an opiate addict. He's addicted to pharmaceutical opiates and has been ever since his mom died. That shit fucked him up, and I totally get why it fucked him up. She goes in for some plastic surgery and then is dead. Like what the fuck? So he's had some trauma, and he's an addict. That's the problem. It's obvious. Nobody wants to talk about it but it's fucking obvious. He gets clean he's cool Kanye again. Guarantee you that.
And you absolutely get it!!! Thank you!!! Reading these other comments made me wonder if I’m just sooo different. They are all ok with branding him as crazy rather to stop and think for a moment. So quick to respond but not quick at analysis.
In my opinion, KW's apology was fake. Sometimes people apologize because they know it draws attention to them and softens people's opinion of them at the time.
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Full interview coming Monday! It’s one of the best People’s Party episodes yet
Their all the best!
Good interview talib wheres the rest
Full interviews every Monday morning
UPROXX Video I like how dude thinks ✊🏿
So much ignorance (dictionary definition) on this screen. It's sad my dudes.
So much blindness. The Left is succeeding tremendously.
Why it "felt scripted" is because it came from the heart, soul and mind at the same time and the man was 100% sincere and in the moment. No fear. The man was speaking truth without interference.
Brothers having real conversation about brothers, with real emotions .. 🥺🙏🏾👍🏾
Yoo my exact thought its like walking thru the living room listening to them talk as a kid.
Van is someone that hasn't had the platform to shine. This man is amazing. You know he's been through it and he remains so calm and cool.
He's too small-minded to understand things on the level Kanye is seeing them.
@@JohnDoe-bi5cc no, Kanye is small minded.
@@sillygoose635 if Kanye is small-minded, then this clown having a hissy fit must have no mind at all.
@@JohnDoe-bi5cc yeah, Kanye isn’t crazy at all, you’re right lol
@@JohnDoe-bi5cc I went back to rewatch and Lathan was doing that temper tantrum shake while he tried to silence Kanye. You only do that baby shake when you're wrong and desperate but want to sound correct. I grew up around lying, close-minded, and desperate people all of my life and that's just how it is.
"I didn't call him out, I called him in." Wow, Bar$
That’s a word 🙏🏾💙
BAR$
Word !
Absolutely
people keep waiting on a change....they ain't got sense enough to come in outta the rain 👽🤘
OMG Van speaking all my words and expressing all my feelings. I felt the same way about Kanye years back. I was so so glad you spoke up. Keep speaking up. We need more of you.
I took it different, and maybe I misunderstood, but I thought he said slavery is a choice not was. I could be mistaken but I took it as he was referring to the labels and the negative hip hop we glorify, like we are slaves to this fake culture. I honestly don't think he meant slaves on a boat being shipped from Africa. I dont know that's how I took it. 🙏
Kanye a hero van joke ..hello Haitian had a choice stay slaves or fight take over country .do u think American blacks had that choice all fight to the death or. Nah no thanks ..so why ya mad at Kanye I know cause it makes Americans black look chicken. .but don't feel that way ..
@@Dispatcher813 he did and slavery only lasted a little over 200 years he’s talking about modern day slavery
@@ladybugjones76 No that's a lie He slandered Harriet Tubman who unlike Kanye worked her entire life, sacrificed and put her own health and freedom at risk consistently to help free slaves. Unlike Ye who only thinks and cares about himself . Bye Troll
@@ladybugjones76 LOL! you're a Troll cuz that's too stupid for an actual person . Well you're welcome for a response anyway
Thanks Talib and Van... Disappointment and Anger aren't the same thing. I HEARD YOU GUYS!!!!
This was an excellent conversation. We MUST stick together and help each other heal.
Who is We ?
Great interview! Van needs his own show, he sharp af with the analogies and metaphors that hit straight on the point
2nd that
Anybody that was reaching adulthood when College Dropout & Late Registration dropped knows how Van Lathan feels
Yup. You could tell he was so disappointed.
Facts!
Yes exactly. I’m from Chicago and it hurt me so much when he went through these ups and downs. I still play college drop out.
I was 18 when college dropout dropped. Completely understand and agree with this statement.
Beyond heartbroken
Van is wise well beyond his years. I love seeing him getting shine these days. #OscarWinner
Nah he used to seem that way but exposed himself and fell off hard
Van just telling y’all what y’all want to hear he’s not being real with you or himself……as long as you thinking like him you trapped
I wasn’t surprised that Van came back with that response, Van is a talented intelligent brother.
Van is a bright brother.
I’ve been blessed to have shared space with powerful brown and black folk. They carry themselves a certain way, the speak a certain way, they’re able to express thought beautifully. They took the time to invest in themselves through education and brought it back to the community. Strengthen your voice and your spirit through knowledge, brothers and sisters. Brother Van didn’t just wake up with the right words to say, he worked hard, dedicated hours towards his education, and when the opportunity arose he was able to step up.
that's BRONZE folk...brown folks are from South/West Asia & North Africa...MY people...come awn, now 😂😂😂
@@neilwiththereeldeel brown folks come from the americas, as well, brother.
@@sunnykobe3210 no, those are the red folks…whole different thing.
@@neilwiththereeldeel I’m pretty brown…
Have a nice day.
@@sunnykobe3210 no you’re not…you are BRONZE, a mix of white and red…learn basic anthropology before you speak
I been looking for Van,yes indeed he needs his own platform 💪🏽👑👑👸🏾
respect and honesty....who would've thought the two could co-exist, usually it's i respect this person so i deflect from the truth of wrongdoings or i'm honest about the wrongdoings in a disrespectful fashion, salute to van lathan, his point about being weaponized was spot on
The maturity level, their communicative style, the intelligence they were throwing dn as well as the other side of the brain- speaking not Only Truth, their individual human-ness creating a room (world) full of compassion, identifying true emotional pain felt personally within theirselves and also compassionately Recognizing others and "they" show huge respect ,regardless of whether they agree or not , even of the most sensitive subjects, beliefs that can be addressed or for that matter, not.
It was clear that they both chose to Love, disagree and continue growing, moving through this life giving only success in doing so.
And..."WE" get to witness as well as Learn with them.
Thank you gentlemen. ❤❤
Who the hell is "we"? And, who the hell are "them"? 🤨
Salute to Van for standing up in that moment.
Wow!!! This is one of the best interviews I've seen! Big up!
What's clear from this, is that Van was WAAAAAAAY over qualified and his intellect WAS/IS on a whole other level from anything going on over @TMZ. What was he doing over there at that job when he can be working at Democracy Now?!!! SO much respect for Van. Losing that job will be a game changer for ya, Van! It's only upupup from here!
I was just thinking the same thing!
Did Van loose his job with tmz after he spoke with Kanye?
@@shanecoulston7304 good question
@@CeeWorld69 Thanks 😊
@@shanecoulston7304 he allegedly got into it with a coworker.
Thank you, Van, for not lowering yourself to use the word n_gga. We need to end that insanity. You're a class act.
Just found this. Loved these two gentlemen. Thank you for intelligent information and for being real and kind.
Van is the man, he really shut Yay down in a very intellectual, and coherent way. I was so proud of Vann. Keep moving brother your voice is much needed.
That's when van put himself on the map and showed that he shouldn't be at TMZ he needs his own platform.
This is the first platform on the internet that I have heard that speaks so positive.. thank you guys 💯💯💯💯💯💯
The interview of interviews, which stated the truth the whole truth and nothin but. Van was 100% real and honest!!!
FACTS
Such an enlightening conversation. I love the dialogue.
I agree with Trevor 1000%
My mom suffered from mental illness as well and was Unmedicated throughout our childhood and most of my adult years. I didn’t truly meet my mother until 2 years before she transitioned and was religiously on her medication.
Even suffering dementia and Parkinson’s, she was the mother that I wished I had grown up with but, my grandchildren were blessed to meet a great-grandmother that they could love and who showed a beautiful live for them.
It was then, and only then, that I could forgive my mom for my damaged upbringing.
But as for Kanye West, it’s shameful that everyone around him, the media and also his fans, are taking advantage of him and using him as entertainment and a media circus event.
This poor man has admitted on several occasions in the past, that he suffers from mental illness, genuine mental illness, and no one cares?
Hee hee haa haa, Kanye West just said something else insane on the news!
Since when is mental illness a joke?
People disgust me.
When he’s dead from spiraling as far down as he can go, the media and fans will be sooo sad, sooo shocked. Ugh! Disgusting!!
❤️❤️😥
He would have to be CRAZY to say what he said.
RIGHT?!?!?!
And anyone who looks and says, oh yeah, exactly what he said would happen came true...
That person has got IT ALL WRONG, right?
Get outta here with that gulag chit.
@@jussayinnit So true. Kanye knows exactly what he was saying, as if it wasn't, he would still stand behind what he said and not apologize.
Is it sooooooo crazy that exactly what he said would happen is now happening?
Are YOU too crazy to see the machine that is now taking everything away from him INCLUDING CANCELING HIS GODDAMN BANK ACCOUNT?!?!?!?!
I don't know if you are a real person or just another arm of the apparatchik that is whipping the slave boy in front of the world, but either way, you're dead wrong with your claim of mental illness directed at Ye.
HIS NAME IS YE NOW!
I know you are probably the type that makes sure to call everyone by their pronouns, but you disrespect a man who made it VERY CLEAR that he has changed his name.
I do think you should have your head examined though. Your refusal to see reality and your double standards and your hypocrisy are all forms of legitimate mental illness.
The media sad don’t be soft they have no emotion
Van is The Shit! You told Kanye what we were all thinking. 👍✊🤘🤟💜
No, not all. That's a major problem believing all blk people think the same and if a black person thinks differently, we call them sellouts. We won't reach anywhere with group thinking, every other race can have difference of opinion without being called sellouts. We the only ones who think we she have a hive mind. Democrats did create the kkk and the biggest lie is believing they switched sides. People actually believe that the leaders of confederates/democrats who wanted to keep us enslaved switched sides. The leaders of religion and politics never switch sides, only their followers may switch but the leaders never have in history. If you don't believe it, they still use the same strategy of using race to divide us.
They only switched on convincing whites to hate blacks, to blacks to hate whites. They tell us they switched sides so we can hate those that helped us beat them in the civil war.
SUCH A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN. WHOSE AWAKE, KNOWS WHO HE IS AND THINK BEYOUND HIS YEARS!!❣️🙏🏽
I like the authenticity of this brotha
LOL at the hard ass scruface Van makes for Pusha T. He feelin it
YUGGHCK!
Wow, really great! What an honest interview about confronting Kanye with Van Lathan. Props from Germany to you all guys, thanks for sharing.
His words at the end touched my heart. God bless you Mr. Lathan.
I just finally watched Kanye’s whole rant that day and thank goodness Van was there to represent.
Wow- that’s right Van, call him in👊🏽Together we stand.. Divided we fall.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Pretty cathartic for a disappointed Kanye stan that's been a fan since Slow Jamz...
The real hip hop channel...💪💪
Mr. Van Lathan speaks like a highly intelligent man. This is my first time hearing and seeing him.
AND I AM GLAD HE IS OFF TMZ BECAUSE THAT SHOW WAS BENEATH HIM AND I STOPPED WATCHING IT ONCE HE WAS GONE
Van, I have respect for what you just said not to be used against your people that is so true.
"They like it when we eat Crow" Uff, I felt that one. Awesome comment.
"I didn't call him out, I was trying to call him in"
-powerful, Van
Van is Underrated but never Unappreciated! ★Keep Grinding★
Well stated truths and facts from Van Lathan! How can we be healing to each other, versus going at each other in the public’s eye! He’s sincere and loves his people! Salute and respect 💪🏾✡️🙏🏾
Amazing clip. Get Willie D on the podcast!
Do It Like It G.O. Had that cassette tape back in high school, one of my favorite albums!
Bet. That would a great two piece combo.
saturncrush literally cuz Willie d was a boxer 😂😂
Very nice
The way Kanye handled the response of Van Lathan was very touching. This is one reason I love Kanye so much. Suddenly he said "I think he needs a hug" and then walked up to Van Lathan and hugged him. Then when Van Lathan continued talking his points, Kanye did not react in anger once. It's Kanye's authenticity, compassionate side and realness that makes me love him so much. And then also that he expose the truth and his funny random moments and rants.
Wow! Powerful stuff! Big “ups” to both Talib & Van.
I’d seen Van on TMZ, probably a dozen times or so, but I had no idea he was so deep & thoughtful.
He definitely needs his own platform to spread his obviously advanced consciousness!
This was a FANTASTIC, revealing, deeply intimate, & moving interview!
Definitely got a new subscriber here! 👍🏽
This is how your true friends talk about you when you’re not around. Talib 💯🙏🏿
Van Lathan encapsulated so well what many of us feel regarding Kanye.
All sellouts
out of everything i heard this is a very good message coming from this young man now he speaks truth
Amazing interview!!!!
This was a great conversation, there should be more of these to define things.
Excellent clip!!! Shout out to Kweli!!
Amazing Interview. Van’s voice is more than needed in our community and America as a whole.
Van my man..thank you brothers , this was a.most stimulating dialogue and I to as a negro woman dont like some of the vices or tactics society has put in place to play us against eachother, it saddens me as well to not know what's taking place around us that's why we have to educating ourselves on this world history, black history, and be involved in the right conversations with the right individuals so we can come to and be on common ground moving forward..again thank you for sharing, it was good❤💚🖤
I'm the Gap like Banana Republic and Old Navy and oooh it come out sweeter then Old Sadie. Aye I was a DIEHARD Kanye fan around the years of college dropout and everything up until he started to change. Thank you! For saying what we all were thinking. We ALL were hurt! 💯💯👏
3 years later... still here
All I know is that I'm so thankful for my people to articulate for us on these platforms 😇👏👏
Van Lathan is a very eloquent speaker
Van is one of the best journalists out here man, and the Kanye situation is underrated. He stood up to Kanye west and Candace Owens when no one wanted to in that TMZ office
Kayne & Van look like long lost Brothers 😆..i ALWAYS thought this.
18:28 (make sure you listen until at least 18:50)...one of the deepest, most truest things I've heard....that is important and I think it should be spoken of often and loudly......thank you for those words Van.
Straight up culturally connected 💗here to heal don’t call out call in checkin help each other.
PTL…good discussion, stay encouraged 💯💌!
When Van left tmz, I left tmz !
HARVEY IS A FAUX. FULL GOP, CHEETO LOVER.
Salute this is really important! This basically sets the record straight of what is acceptable in our culture.
Van saying "it's me, bro" recalls that scene in The Wire when Wallace tells Dee in the Pit, "This is me, yo, right here" after Dee was trying to tell him that there is a bigger world outside of Baltimore. Like, "I feel you, but this is all I know."
Totally agree with Van about Kanye's cultural importance throughout his career.....the mistake he makes is thinking that Kanye has gone off the rails- he's still very much on point and in 20 years Van will certainly realise this.
I agree that youre on rails ...
Thank you! We all didn't grow up in the same America; same time; same people. It's really how we respond to each others differences that's keeping us apart. It's taught by oppression.
That fools off the rails
Never be weaponized against other people. That's the game to keep the great divide. Van is correct , have a dialogue so healing and solutions can take place.
Wow, I'm always impressed when I find an "artist" who's fame goes far beyond their actual talent, so way to go Talib.
"I detest the slaveholder, and almost equally detest the contented slave. They are both enemies of freedom".
- Frederick Douglass
"Slavery for 400 years, 400 years, that sounds like a choice".
- Kanye West
"Can you hear it? The restless rustle of harsh terrain, bellowing like trumpets from the sole of a runaway slave, echoing endlessly through my veins".
- Yeti the Prophet
400 years where? Not in America... I guess they're counting Africa and England, too..
Slavery at this point is absolutely a choice
After the initial KNOCK IN THE *^$^^ HEAD, if you are NOT WILLING TO DIE, it's A CHOICE!!!!!!
@@KtotheG You really need to get a proper history education.
Too bad blacks were sold by blacks to blacks and other races.We all slaves.U guys don't pay attention?lol.Unbelievable!
Van Lathan said what I think a lot of us black people felt at that time about Kanye... It's like he telepathically linked to Black America!! 😂😂🤣🤣
I think we need to be careful with our choice of words about brother Kanye I don't approve with white lives matter all lives matter but what he said about the Jews that's the kicker right there
@@charlessmith8328 I don't agree with ANYTHING he's said in the last 15 years... Last thing Kanye said that I agreed with was "George Bush doesn't care about black people".. 😏😂😂😂
@@brainchild8626 I guess that's why you is you and me as me with the entities in this country I like hella what he had to say people just ain't getting it more shall be revealed
Not all so called black ppl agree with what Van Latham said to Ye.
@@ctcstores9159 Right
VAN LATHAN! I'LL BE HERE WHEN YOU GIT YOUR IWN SHOW..❤YOU VAN! THE STRUGLE IS REAL & SO ARE YOU..💪🏿✊🏿👍🏿🎂🙏🏿🤗😘
Real talk. Great interview
The Don is From Queens since day one showed love to everyone
His response to koonye, was BIBLICAL!
I love Ye.... He's so far above the civilians thought process.... I'm glad he's at least TRYING to explain his position but y'all not on his level... No disrespect to any of you... But he's in the stratosphere... Positive
Positive!❤️🧿🌹
When ever people would say that the KKK came from the democratic party my response was that the democrats were conservatives back then. I've been saying this for the longest. And people would just laugh at me. This is the first time I've heard someone else say this.
True... but the parties have switched places. Point, blank, period
@@yvonnepingleton5063 that's what I just said 🤷
When Kanye stood up there and let Trump call him his African American.. Like a house nxxxx.. Broke my heart bro...
you’re low IQ
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Fast forward to October 2022. Imagine how disappointed Van must be in him now ! 🤯
Peace and Blessings well said 💕
He is being clear. Emotions got us missing it.
He summed up my thoughts as a whole....period!
Kanye's thinking is light years ahead of the common mind. This has been his greatest challenge; that most cannot comprehend the depth of his statements....
but in actuality, he's actually light years behind the conversation within the black sphere, black intellectuals have been having these particular conversations for a very long time. from Booker t. Washington to adversarial engagement between Marcus Garvey and W. E. B. Du Bois etc( throughout the diaspora). these conversations have been had and understood quite well within the black community.kanye ignorance and is refusal to engage history properly, fuse his hubris that leads him to think He's the only one having this grand assessment and not realizing he's only an agent of history.
Kanye is not a genius he’s a musical artist that has been damaged and has a platform because of wealth / like having a church service on Sundays based on what ? Crazy
@@gamalielfasakin9700 ...why does everything have to be about black for Kanye.Kanye realizes that black people were sold from black people to black people and some white people. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT STRANDS OF WHITE PEOPLE...French,Irish, German,Polish,etc.Yall racist asses can't be that stupid.lol
Love this interview👏🏼👏🏻👏🏽👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿💯🤝🏾
My eyes are on this Van dude. Can't wait to see where he takes it.
This was an amazing interview ❤
I'd love to hear these two after the nore interview
Talib... your platform is everything it needs to be. Salute to you and your supporting team man!! #SUNSETPARK #theset6145
Fa real Van needs his own show articulate nuff love nuff respect ✊ ✊ more blessings
I first heard Kanye at almost 60 years old and I couldn't quit listening, but I noticed after the car wreck he went south. Seems like the things he talked about was him due to himself.
I also heard Kanye and what he did with the t-shirts I don't approve but what he's saying about the Jews you better think twice as a race of people what's going on everybody coming from around the world we're still talking respirations God bless Kanye ye
For show that
as a upper middle class Foundational Black America and he just spoke My language and my world.
I’m just curious, if Eminem came out saying slavery was a choice, would we all be running out to support him? If Em said he admired Hitler, would that be cool? Because, to like & admire Hitler, is supporting white supremacy. Hitler was building an Aryan nation. If Em started talkin madness like that, he’d lose us. Why do we have to stand with Kanye Waste? Just because he’s one of us? Nope! He’s a DOPE! 🙅🏽♀️
I am SURE people feel the SAME about you! If he is a dope ... tell us what MILDSTONES you have done in YOUR life or for the WORLD ... what GIFTS you gave? I know one thing YE made a billion and WE are still slaves .... SO WHO IS A DOPE! SMH
See you can't see CLEARLY when you are seeing through ENVY and HATRED! EVERYTHING is a choice ... it maybe a choice between horrible choices but you ALWAYS have a choice.
@@dwe4507 🤣🤣🤣 you’re making a LOT of assumptions. I don’t owe you one iota of an explanation, BUT since you’ve asked, I do a LOT for my community & am actively involved in helping underprivileged youth. And, since you’re over here judging me, I imagine it’s because you do your share to help those who need help, right?
Speak for yourself. I’m nobody’s slave. Now move along with your angry & judgmental self. Ciao!
@@ileana6281 So YOU say... I hope you are not working with children, you called a man you don't know, never met and will NEVER met a dope because the media who hates black people told you to. that is insane shows poor judgement and hatefulness. I made no assumptions I simple asked. who is judging you? LMBO YOU are judging YE and sentenced him to for speaking his mind and his truth and THE TRUTH. I would bet money that you have NEVER watched a full interview or any words that came from his mouth because only those that have not are ignorant to the facts that this man is speaking of LOVE , WEALTH and Unity for not only black people but all people. I wish sleepers wake up and stop being a FOLLOWER and do some research ... listen to the words from HIS mouth ... the full sentences not the cut up versions. For these dudes to be talking about YE saying slavery was a choice WITHOUT saying and SHOWING the full understanding of what he said and what he meant is just more buck dancing for massa - PERIOD! WE all have choices! And to survive we chose to be slaves - fact! YE is on different level than every dude in that room and US ... we have no understanding of him, is mind or his greatness. Tilib is lying! He use to be on Twitter calling whites all kinds of names, fighting with them and saying the most craziest mess! I stop following him because it was just nothing but HATE ... and hating on all the blacks that they want us to hate on ...which is how he got this platform .... and he is LYING again KKK was a big part of the DEM party and been using blacks to manipulate blacks into being a part of our own demise for decades! FACT! But he knows his audience ,,, they will not research ...they will just FOLLOW
YOUR WORDS - ''Because, to like & admire Hitler, is supporting white supremacy. Hitler was building an Aryan nation. If Em started talkin madness like that, he’d lose us. Why do we have to stand with Kanye Waste? Just because he’s one of us? Nope! He’s a DOPE! and YOUR WORDS right back at you '' Now move along with your angry & judgmental self. Ciao!
SMH
@@tandy3443 And once again, you’re assuming 😏 I’ve listened to many of his interviews in full. I also work with folks that have mental illness. I recognize when someone is in the middle of a manic episode. That, however, doesn’t excuse nor justifies his crappy behavior. Someone can suffer from mental illness & be super kind, and altruistic. Conversely, someone can suffer from mental illness & be a raging narcissistic jerk. The latter describes your hero, Ye. BTW…never had any desire to know the guy & never will. There are plenty of black folks who are great & do great things. Scholars & educators with amazing minds & experiences, but do it out of the limelight. Ye is constantly seeking the media & cannot get out of his own way.
As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words. If he is really interested in peace, love & unity, as you are lulled into believing because he’s saying those words, than riddle me this Batman: why has he secured Milo Yiannopoulos as his campaign manager? Why is he choosing to align himself with Nick Fuentes? His actions betray his words. But you go head on & hang on to your hero. I’ll continue on with the charity work I do helping those that are on the margins of society so that they may have a future & a better life. ✌🏽🖖🏽
We love Ye and let him know i am praying for him diligently🙏🙏🙏
Funny Van saying what Kayne said he has to deal with while working at TMZ spreading rumors gossip and has a history of reporting shit without all the facts first and other people have to deal with it lol. I wonder if they realize Kanye has been in circles for a while that these dude could never even get close to. He probably seen things he can never speak on. Did they ever think to ask a Kanye why he felt that way, or what has he seen to bring him to those conclusions? I doubt it. Good convo but there are many a holes in those parachutes yaw skydiving with in this discussion.
Yesssssss! See this is the comment I was looking for - use your brain people stop looking for the mouthpiece of our race make your own narrative! Yes to this comment this shows me you're a free thinker!
TMZ spreads Gossip
All you're doing is making excuses for the man. I don't doubt that Kanye has been introduced to culture that 99% if us will never understand. You know what I say to that? Who cares, so what? You want to get real here? Let's get real, the dude is an opiate addict. He's addicted to pharmaceutical opiates and has been ever since his mom died. That shit fucked him up, and I totally get why it fucked him up. She goes in for some plastic surgery and then is dead. Like what the fuck? So he's had some trauma, and he's an addict. That's the problem. It's obvious. Nobody wants to talk about it but it's fucking obvious. He gets clean he's cool Kanye again. Guarantee you that.
And you absolutely get it!!! Thank you!!! Reading these other comments made me wonder if I’m just sooo different. They are all ok with branding him as crazy rather to stop and think for a moment. So quick to respond but not quick at analysis.
Thank you Van
VAN THE MAN! THE ONLY BLACK MAN EVER TO SPEAK BLACKNESS ON TMZ.
Great interview my brother’s
This is the difference between knowing facts, and talking out your ass. Thanks Talib.
In my opinion, KW's apology was fake. Sometimes people apologize because they know it draws attention to them and softens people's opinion of them at the time.
His One of the greatest rappers of all time