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  • @djJaXx101
    @djJaXx101 Месяц назад +158

    What a contrast: Shogun and Rebel Moon reviews back to back.

    • @lukebatchelor717
      @lukebatchelor717 Месяц назад +11

      One that honors Kurosawa in many ways, and another that desecrates!

    • @quiett6191
      @quiett6191 Месяц назад

      talk about whiplash.

    • @SkyHiltribe
      @SkyHiltribe Месяц назад

      Yeah, sure, whatever you say, Joe. Funny how the movies Joe raved about is mediocre but the ones that Joe ignored gets good reviews.

  • @ThatLadHazzaaa
    @ThatLadHazzaaa Месяц назад +166

    I believe ‘Anjin’ was the word the Japanese used for ‘Pilot’ and not foreigner.

    • @sloesty
      @sloesty Месяц назад +4

      Yeah but the subs are off iirc and they say foreigner or barbarian.

    • @srj607able
      @srj607able Месяц назад +7

      Depending on the context and situation, the meaning differs. You have to understand that at that time , not many foreigners in Japan . Mostly Portuguese monks, Dutch sailors , Portuguese sailors. As Japanese they always categorize themselves and others. So, yes , Anjin means pilot when firstly mentioned , but then when others uses it in different context and situation, it means « that » foreigners or « that » barbarian.

    • @stefanavious
      @stefanavious Месяц назад +18

      There's actually two words they use to refer to John. "Anjin" is what shows up as "Pilot" in the subtitles while "Banjin" is what shows up as "Barbarian/Foreigner."
      Though, I'm not Japanese so it's possible that maybe it's the same word sounding different because of the various accents in the show.

    • @meruk8682
      @meruk8682 Месяц назад +29

      ⁠@@stefanaviousI'm Japanese and you are correct. They do refer to John both as banjin or by his given name Anjin. Banjin (barbarian) and Anjin (Pilot in Old Tongue) are phonetically very similar so it's natural to mishear one from another. By the way, foreigner is Gaijin, and Banjin only means barbaric.

    • @stefanavious
      @stefanavious Месяц назад +4

      @@meruk8682 Thanks for clearing it up, mate. Appreciate it.

  • @abrahamlincoln3181
    @abrahamlincoln3181 Месяц назад +163

    Finally, a show that doesn't waste Hiroyuki Sanada.

    • @SoranotRoxas
      @SoranotRoxas Месяц назад +5

      Couldn't agree more

    • @nighthrashchannel8627
      @nighthrashchannel8627 Месяц назад +11

      Fun fact: shogun is Hiroyuki Sanada debut as a producer.

    • @farmgirlrebel1333
      @farmgirlrebel1333 Месяц назад +8

      Exactly. This man commands just about any scene in any show he is in, has been underutilized for some dumb reason. First time seeing him (for me) was in Last Samurai and his role just stood out because of Sanada's portrayal, he gave it more heft than the script deserved...he was excellent and I am so glad to see him heading up Shogun. It was masterful.

  • @BigDaddyCruz
    @BigDaddyCruz Месяц назад +65

    Fuji stole my heart, Mariko stole my soul!

    • @Ptzou
      @Ptzou 19 дней назад

      Most accurate comment

  • @milioner55
    @milioner55 Месяц назад +301

    OJ in good movies review - 😐
    OJ in bad movies review - 😈🔥😈

    • @JetMC254
      @JetMC254 Месяц назад +16

      We NEED more bad movie reviews

    • @Tarek20x
      @Tarek20x Месяц назад +5

      He doesn't call himself "angry" joe for nothing 😅

    • @kevinmayfield6182
      @kevinmayfield6182 Месяц назад +23

      @@Tarek20x*OJ other joe not AJ

    • @Tarek20x
      @Tarek20x Месяц назад

      @@kevinmayfield6182 *slaps my forehead* silly me

    • @bentucker2301
      @bentucker2301 Месяц назад

      No it's Ongry Joe😂​@@kevinmayfield6182

  • @Uldihaa
    @Uldihaa Месяц назад +107

    They literally had a coach who specialized in body language and movement of the time to help the modern Japanese cast to connect to the Japanese of 1600. Hiroyuki Sanada is absolutely _fantastic_ as Yoshii Toranaga (aka Tokugawa Ieyasu, the founder of the Tokugawa Shogunate which would control Japan until the Meiji Revolution). He dominates his scenes, even when he says nothing.
    The costuming is amazing, and I thought it was funny how so many ended up walking around in rather heavy costumes. And I don't just mean those in armor! The women wore _at least_ five layered kimono, and frequently seven. And one poor woman had to wear ten to twelve layers! It's those layers that actually dictated how women walked. Believe me, you are _NOT_ taking even moderate steps wearing that.
    The sets were incredible and looked, sounded, and 'felt' authentic.
    One of the things that is mentioned in the behind-the-scenes videos that you can watch on RUclips is that the vast majority of the cast, and a good part of the crew, were Japanese. Not Japanese-American, but actors and actresses straight from Japan. I thought it was really cool that Sanada mentions how pleased he was that so many of his fellow Japanese actors finally got to work on a big and expensive Hollywood production. That experience is invaluable, and probably played a big role in enticing Japanese talent to audition.
    And speaking of Sanada again, he was also a producer for the show. Several cast members mention how he would get dressed for a scene, do the scene and then immediate change to rush off to another scene being filmed as producer.

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 Месяц назад +10

      I think it’s also important that this is based in an excellent book by James Clavell who was inspired by the real life story of the English navigator Williams Adams. After Adams proved himself to be incredibly resourceful to Tokugawa Ieyasu, he was appointed as a diplomatic and trade advisor of Japan and became his personal advisor on all matters pertaining to the Western world.
      He was even promoted to become Tokugawa Ieyasu's personal translator and became the first western Samurai.

    • @Pintheshadows
      @Pintheshadows Месяц назад +8

      The Japanese they speak is also period accurate. It's a very impressive production all round.

    • @Leonnie13
      @Leonnie13 Месяц назад +3

      This is why I hope they release a Blu-ray with all the special features.

    • @Nostromo2144
      @Nostromo2144 Месяц назад +1

      I didn't like Cosmo as Blacktorne to start with, but he's growing on me after 4 eps (waiting for the finale to so I can binge the rest).
      I wasn't sure about Anna Sawai either, but I must give credit where it's due - she plays the Japanese woman of the time with consummate grace.
      Sanada is epic as always, but I also really like Asano's character portrayal so far.

    • @targe762
      @targe762 Месяц назад +3

      Sanada is also the most qualified martial artist of the actors on set and was frequently involved with helping them learn katana and naganata work

  • @mongooseunleashed
    @mongooseunleashed Месяц назад +98

    Japan had a serious bandit problem.

    • @supernova582
      @supernova582 Месяц назад +1

      America had a bad outlaw problem. same thing except they had swords and knives and the outlaws of the wild West had guns and knives.

    • @mongooseunleashed
      @mongooseunleashed Месяц назад +17

      @@supernova582 You didn't watch the show, huh?

    • @supernova582
      @supernova582 Месяц назад

      @@mongooseunleashed no I kinda read the books tho I didn't realize it became a show

    • @mongooseunleashed
      @mongooseunleashed Месяц назад +23

      @supernova582 Well, the joke is every time someone is assassinated they blame it on bandits.

    • @DamienTheCat
      @DamienTheCat Месяц назад

      ​@mongooseunleashed Whether he meant this or not, America did stuff like that constantly. If you don't think the Mafia killed people on behalf of the government, then you are delusional

  • @nickwiley9647
    @nickwiley9647 Месяц назад +422

    Is nobody gonna talk about how the priest looks EXACTLY like Alex?!?! It’s literally all I can think about when he’s on screen!

    • @GunSwordGaming
      @GunSwordGaming Месяц назад +18

      oh wow, didn't notice but I see it now

    • @Eskeletor_210
      @Eskeletor_210 Месяц назад +1

      Hahaha Martin

    • @Maggbba
      @Maggbba Месяц назад +1

      The scene where he asks who are the women standing not far from him is hilarious.

    • @Blaze3691
      @Blaze3691 Месяц назад +2

      I have been wondering why the priest looks so familiar as if I see his face every week. Now I know why.😂

    • @micknightmare3
      @micknightmare3 Месяц назад +2

      😂😂😂

  • @ReconMarine-lv2kj
    @ReconMarine-lv2kj Месяц назад +129

    I am Japanese and I love Sengoku era(16-17 century) dramas. This show is one of the best with Hiroyuki Sanada's great acting. Maybe it is little bit hard for you guys(non Japanese people) to understand those names and historical background but still, it is a great show.

    • @kayhappy613
      @kayhappy613 Месяц назад +6

      I speak English and Japanese too.
      The culture of seppuku and many other things are difficult for foreigners to understand.
      And, again, I think it is almost impossible to translate the old Japanese into English with its original nuances.
      Japanese is a very beautiful language, though

    • @Ecclesia_
      @Ecclesia_ Месяц назад +3

      It was the game Nioh that first intrigued me into Sengoku period. Even though the show is based on a book with fictional names, it is quite clear that it is based on actual history with 5 regents, one of which becomes the eventual shogun. There are some big parallels with real history. For example John Blackthorne (William Adams in real history) came to Japan on the ship Erasmus in book/tv show, but in reality William Adams came on the ship 'De Liefde' (The Love) which was not the original name of the ship, that was actually 'Erasmus' (Dutch philosopher).

    • @ReconMarine-lv2kj
      @ReconMarine-lv2kj Месяц назад +2

      @@kayhappy613 そうですね。英語字幕もちょっと確認してみましたが、「やっぱり英訳は難しかったか」という箇所もちらほら。ですが最近の大河ドラマには無い緊張感と優れた照明や美術で目が離せないですね。真田さんも時代考証には結構意見を出したとか。

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад

      The thing is that the show is very good at explaining any major moving parts even to people with 0 historical knowledge of the period.
      I went into it with what i would call a cursory knowledge of Sengoku era Japan, although Shogun takes place a bit further on from where my knowledge ends. So i'm decently well situated, but need a few pointers that the show can seamlessly add to the script.
      My mother who's watching with me has exactly 0 knowledge of japanese history other than the fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened in WWII. So she has absolutely 0 clue about the culture or generally conflicts of the time period, but with cleverly written questions from Blackthorne she got to grips with the important parts of the show's background.

    • @Isnogood12
      @Isnogood12 Месяц назад

      @@kayhappy613 Yeah except this was written in English by an Englishman. If anything, the Japanese is the problem in the series. :)

  • @NYGiantsfan230
    @NYGiantsfan230 Месяц назад +163

    “There’s a lot to shit” - Amgry Joe

    • @TheRealSlickGoku
      @TheRealSlickGoku Месяц назад +2

      Exactly

    • @Vlad_85
      @Vlad_85 Месяц назад +9

      While watching this masterpiece? Definitely. I keep my ass clenched tight but there’s a lot of pressure nearly the whole duration of an episode.

    • @0owmjapo0
      @0owmjapo0 Месяц назад +1

      A lot to shit on... He's so used to being disappointed when watching a show haha

    • @runi5413
      @runi5413 Месяц назад +2

      Roger Ebert ain't got shit on him

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext Месяц назад +1

      There is indeed

  • @Pintheshadows
    @Pintheshadows Месяц назад +26

    The only show that can make drawing a map in some sand one of the most compelling scenes I have ever seen.

  • @SoldierSpiderx
    @SoldierSpiderx Месяц назад +32

    Hollywood should have given Hiroyuki Sanada lead role a long time ago. It’s great to see him finally show his full potential and get the recognition he deserves and also when I saw them boil that guy alive I said to myself, "I am happy to be born when I was born." Lol

    • @zerochill4326
      @zerochill4326 Месяц назад +3

      He put in his contract to only do the show if the correctly done, and accurate to the history also explains why you see him credited as a producer.

  • @ProjectMathesar
    @ProjectMathesar Месяц назад +211

    The 9th episode was the most explosive I've seen in 2024.

  • @lorenzo1319
    @lorenzo1319 Месяц назад +302

    That 9th episode was jaw dropping

  • @cinemapigeon4898
    @cinemapigeon4898 Месяц назад +28

    About time they finally made a series about Total War Shogun

  • @LuxFidelis
    @LuxFidelis Месяц назад +26

    Man I saved 7,8,9 for a 1 night marathon. This show made me cry almost the way those all played out and at once. 100/10 show
    Also the 1980 original is also a gem

  • @mercAltiar
    @mercAltiar Месяц назад +26

    It really is that good. This show definitely needs to get more recognition, the end result is incredibly faithful and cinematic

    • @RealParadox85
      @RealParadox85 27 дней назад

      What was GOOD? It was a solid show, sure. But really good? Mehh.

  • @LizardSpork
    @LizardSpork Месяц назад +25

    Anna Sawai who plays Mariko also starred in Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, and I haaaaaated her character on that show.
    Just goes to show how a great actor can be brought low or elevated by the strength of the writing.

    • @boxtears
      @boxtears Месяц назад +2

      And directing.

  • @CarlWheatley-wi2cl
    @CarlWheatley-wi2cl Месяц назад +74

    Episode 9 was an absolute masterclass in how to do the "strong" female character. Terrific series.

    • @italianwaffle5592
      @italianwaffle5592 Месяц назад +2

      I’m so curious as to why you brought up “strong” female characters instead of just saying it was a fantastic character piece?

    • @1nightonekn1ght87
      @1nightonekn1ght87 Месяц назад +18

      @@italianwaffle5592 Because modern movies and shows have lots of Mary Sues. Western ones at least anyway

    • @italianwaffle5592
      @italianwaffle5592 Месяц назад +1

      @@1nightonekn1ght87 A ton of Gary Stu’s too. It’s a trope. Why is it just called a good realistic character if it’s a dude though?

    • @1nightonekn1ght87
      @1nightonekn1ght87 Месяц назад +2

      @@italianwaffle5592 Well I wouldn't say Gary Stus are good or realistic either. You're not wrong to say whether a character is a good character without mentioning gender. I guess what I'm trying to say is It's just nice to see grounded characters like the ones in Shogun.
      Blackthorne's a cunning seaman and a decent shot with his gun but he'd be no good in a swordfight against a trained swordsman. Meanwhile, Mariko can hold her own in a fight with her naginata but can do so much against multiple opponents.
      Despite their flaws, they're cool believable characters.

    • @vidmasterK1
      @vidmasterK1 Месяц назад +1

      Are you woke? Have you seriously gone wOkE, carl?

  • @ClipMania01
    @ClipMania01 Месяц назад +40

    Can't wait for the finale on Tuesday. This show is awesome and definitely a must watch.

  • @TheMimeGogo
    @TheMimeGogo Месяц назад +13

    Anyone else notice that Yabushige Sama was one of Thors guys in the MCU?

    • @MentalLiberation
      @MentalLiberation Месяц назад +1

      I noticed. And I loved that he was here. I also noticed that he was Raiden and Sanada was Scorpion in the MK reboot film. Anyone notice that John was in Peaky Blinders?

  • @sociomatt_
    @sociomatt_ Месяц назад +9

    After you watch all the episodes (because looks like slight spoilers for later episodes), watch the behind the scenes cause its amazing what went into everything and how much Hiroyuki Sanada did. He has to be one of the most misused/underrated actors in all of hollywood

  • @chazjohannsen
    @chazjohannsen Месяц назад +9

    Between this and last winter’s Blue Eye Samurai, it’s a great time for samurai television.

  • @clayu.9150
    @clayu.9150 Месяц назад +63

    Toranaga: That's the same actor that played scorpion in the mortal kombat movie I believe.

    • @ayapapaya5693
      @ayapapaya5693 Месяц назад +20

      Also the same guy who played Ujio in The Last Samurai

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 Месяц назад +20

      Yes, Hiroyuki Sanada, he's been in tons of movies, like Last Samurai, Bullet Train, Rush Hour 3 etc.
      He's a classically trained actor AND martial arts experts.

    • @sixwings8278
      @sixwings8278 Месяц назад +2

      did you know the guy who play kashigi , also play raiden in MK?

    • @xBonafidexProdigy
      @xBonafidexProdigy Месяц назад +8

      John Wick 4 as Well, Mr. Sanada has been in a lot of films

    • @user-je5hk8sz9t
      @user-je5hk8sz9t Месяц назад +6

      John wick too

  • @DeathNRebirth
    @DeathNRebirth Месяц назад +31

    My favorite show since The Expanse honestly

    • @bigdreams5554
      @bigdreams5554 Месяц назад +2

      High praise! I will need to watch it then. The Expanse was itself a masterpiece

    • @srj607able
      @srj607able Месяц назад +4

      The expanse is such underrated

    • @cjx22
      @cjx22 Месяц назад

      I'm still on S5 for the Expanse but I heard the show got cancelled without being concluded properly

    • @luremus70
      @luremus70 Месяц назад

      @@cjx22 Just read the books, 7 - 9 cover the rest of the story. There is some different deaths in the show vs books, but its not very important for the overall story.

    • @perimiter
      @perimiter Месяц назад

      @@cjx22 the show ends at a good point. after the ending of the show, there is a big time jump of 30 years or so and it's covered by books 7-9.

  • @katiepersons6575
    @katiepersons6575 Месяц назад +36

    "Nobody's a prisoner here, you just need a pass."
    Getting a pass be like:

    • @garethsnaim8174
      @garethsnaim8174 Месяц назад +7

      multipass?

    • @zixoon
      @zixoon Месяц назад

      ​@@garethsnaim8174exactly! A tap on the shoulder.

  • @montana0307
    @montana0307 Месяц назад +4

    Not sure if anyone mentioned it but the English they’re talking (that we hear) is actually Portuguese or Dutch at times when John Blackthorne is talking with Mariko or his crew etc.

  • @Kitsune9Yokai
    @Kitsune9Yokai Месяц назад +12

    Anjin means Pilot, Gaijin means foreigner

  • @SumtingWong343
    @SumtingWong343 Месяц назад +10

    Episode 9 had on the edge of my seat for waaaay to long 😭 That ending had me speechless for a good 5 min... Amazing show!!

  • @fernando-sl7qm
    @fernando-sl7qm Месяц назад +26

    Finally you guys watched this

  • @gruntzone3605
    @gruntzone3605 Месяц назад +6

    Yeah, I REALLY hate it when someone says they don't want to watch something because they have to read. People like that just watch stuff to turn off their brain.

  • @Cander5142
    @Cander5142 Месяц назад +8

    Looking forward the finale. Show has been fantastic. But I don’t think we are going to see some grand epic battle so hopefully people don’t expect that. Maybe a battle montage if anything.

    • @magnum482
      @magnum482 Месяц назад +5

      I hope we get at least a little bit. Sekigahara was the biggest battle ever fought on Japan - 160000 men

  • @BirdsFlyinHigh
    @BirdsFlyinHigh Месяц назад +6

    After Blue Eyed Samurai, this was such a welcome show to break into. It gives me faith for a ghost of tsushima show or movie.

  • @Saiegel
    @Saiegel Месяц назад +4

    The moment I saw that Hiroyuki Sanada was going to be in the series I had to watch it and I was not disappointed. He is doing amazing job and I'm hoping for Disney and Hulu to not fuble the series in the long run.

  • @Nhexturtle
    @Nhexturtle Месяц назад +1

    The priest is Joaquim de Almeida a portuguese actor. The iconic Salazar and the villain of one of 24's seasons. And villain in tons of more movies.

  • @kekohokko7213
    @kekohokko7213 Месяц назад +1

    I think we got off easy in that (as I understand) the show is not run in Japanese and Portuguese, the latter being the language Blackthorne talks to most non-Japanese people in the book. Anjin just means pilot (as in the one piloting the ship). I read Clavell's book multiple times and still got something out of the 80's TV series with Richard Chamberlain, if just for the setting and a different look at the characters of Toranaga, Mariko, Yabu and Blackthorne.

  • @cardboardconflicts
    @cardboardconflicts Месяц назад +6

    This NEEDS to be subtitled. The Japanese language for immersion is needed IMO.

    • @Freevo_Lowse
      @Freevo_Lowse Месяц назад

      I watched on disney plus snd it's subtitled

  • @FrozzenK
    @FrozzenK Месяц назад +15

    13:55 Episode 1 is called Anjin which means pilot, not foreigner. Blackthorne is called this because he is a pilot. This is explained in the show. Not to be confused with Ajin. Don't kill my weeb heart.

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Месяц назад +4

      I thought it was just a clever spin on a TV pilot.. and they called it anjin instead.

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@firstlast9846No, he's called Anjin because he's the navigator and also the character is based on a real historical person.
      William Adams AKA "Miura Anjin", the first Englishman who travelled to Japan.
      He served the Shogun, Tokugawa Ieyasu as a military/naval advisor and was made a Samurai.
      He's a highly regarded figure in Japan, to this day.

    • @SuperScarface83
      @SuperScarface83 Месяц назад +4

      @@doublep1980 I think you're both right. Obviously, Blackthorne is Anjin, but the showrunners were probably going for a hidden pun by picking "Anjin" as the title for the first episode.

    • @kevinmayfield6182
      @kevinmayfield6182 Месяц назад +1

      @@SuperScarface83The name accomplishes many things and is one of the various reasons why it works so well

    • @svenskhund3603
      @svenskhund3603 Месяц назад

      They switch from Anjin to Banjin throughout the show. Banjin meaning barbarian or foreigner. It depends on the context.

  • @stevemartegani
    @stevemartegani Месяц назад

    Hulu does have a dubbed version (partially dubbed, they don't dub the scenes with English and Japanese translation going on) and there is also a visually impaired Audio track too.

  • @LiveAus
    @LiveAus Месяц назад +1

    Btw, the Franciscan priest you recognized is Joaquim de Almeida, and he played (among other roles) as Bucho in the movie Desperado with Antonio Banderas

    • @MentalLiberation
      @MentalLiberation Месяц назад

      YES! He was in a bunch of great films. I had no idea he was actually Portuguese. Talk about adding to the flavor. Great casting!

  • @cinnamonshiva
    @cinnamonshiva Месяц назад +4

    I was wondering why you haven't talked about this until now lmao. Likely gonna be the best show of the year and win a whole bunch of awards, honestly.

  • @kevinlau1904
    @kevinlau1904 Месяц назад +7

    Gotta give a tv show " tokyo vice " a shout out too!!

    • @Maggbba
      @Maggbba Месяц назад

      I thought it sucked ass but I think it's because of the actor playing the main character, I can't stand him.

    • @kevinlau1904
      @kevinlau1904 Месяц назад

      @@Maggbba I couldnt stand him at first but the main baddie is such badass. And ken Watanabe is still cool af

    • @kevinlau1904
      @kevinlau1904 Месяц назад

      @@Maggbba by the by I'm watching baby reindeer on netflix. Is sooooo creepy! Give it a watch if u haven't

  • @buzzy-ears
    @buzzy-ears Месяц назад +2

    The book is intimidatingly big, but abso-freaking-lutely worth the effort. Read it! And I don't even read that much, TO BE FAIR
    29:52 That "thwp" sound effect was ON POINT 😂

  • @nighthrashchannel8627
    @nighthrashchannel8627 Месяц назад +1

    Shogun is actually Hiroyuki Sanada (Lord Yoshii Toranaga) producer debut. And what an amazing start as a producer. Hopefully we see more of him producing in the near future because this is flawless.

  • @techmaster9123
    @techmaster9123 Месяц назад +7

    Toranaga made him dive so many times cause he refused to shower, Toranaga wanted to clean him this way, im kinda sure 😂

    • @FrankLucas-pw5hs
      @FrankLucas-pw5hs Месяц назад

      hmm I didn't think of that. Quite funny

    • @BackToWar100
      @BackToWar100 Месяц назад

      Wrong, just Bert Kreischer is that tarded and thinks that staying in a pool is a a shower.

    • @techmaster9123
      @techmaster9123 Месяц назад

      @@BackToWar100 never thought I would see a Bert reference under the Shogun video of blindwave

  • @mr.heisenberg1570
    @mr.heisenberg1570 Месяц назад +40

    Shogun, Blue Eye Samurai, and Fallout have all been absolutely spectacular. I’m so happy we’ve been given a lot of good tv lately.

    • @giovannifoulmouth7205
      @giovannifoulmouth7205 Месяц назад +9

      you need to watch 3 Body Problem, another amazing new series

    • @mr.heisenberg1570
      @mr.heisenberg1570 Месяц назад

      @@giovannifoulmouth7205 I just started watching it, so far I am really liking it.

    • @Maggbba
      @Maggbba Месяц назад +7

      I hated Blue Eye Samurai because you could tell it was made by westerners.

    • @hughgeek5592
      @hughgeek5592 Месяц назад +4

      Give Toyky Vice a try. Great stuff as well.

    • @TanThighsYum
      @TanThighsYum Месяц назад +6

      Fallout Is okay, but I think people have lowered their standards because of most being garbage. I definitely don't feel like it's anywhere near amazing, just good enough.

  • @ThunderBlake
    @ThunderBlake Месяц назад

    I remember watching Shogun's 1980 version back at my grandparents house, crazy to think we now have 'remakes' of tv series

  • @devinmausia4939
    @devinmausia4939 Месяц назад +2

    I wish you guys could review Black Sails. Some of the best writing I have ever seen and the actors are incredibly picked for each role. This show will transport you to another world like Shogun.

  • @GATMAN713
    @GATMAN713 Месяц назад +2

    They do have it in english, under extras they have the Dubbed episodes.

  • @garkisbloodlust9234
    @garkisbloodlust9234 Месяц назад +3

    You guys should watch the old 80s TV show because its completely different due to the fact it is told totally from Blackthorn's PoV. Like same book and stuff, but it's so different because we just see everything through John's eyes.

    • @jdpc9391
      @jdpc9391 Месяц назад

      Which is kind a better wait to do it cause the book's goal is basically to make you discover Japan and it's culture from the point of view of an occidental. By the end of the book, Blackthorne is Japanese and you feel like it when you close the book. I think the storyline that suffered the most in this new version is actually the Anjin part of the story. They changed so much stuff into it. All the Japanese part is way closer to the book (apart from the Ochiba taking control). But everything with the europeen (Blackthorne, The portugese, is less good in this series to me... Blackthorne and Rodriguez relationship especially).

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@jdpc9391 I'm not familiar with either the novel or the old adaptation, but this version is clearly more interested in laying out a complex political struggle for Japan, with Blackthorne being a bit of a wild card in Toranaga's hand.
      It doesn't really immerse you in the culture as i imagine it would if it focused more on Blackthorne's perspective and experience, but it allows for a grander picture of feudal Japan to be painted.

    • @jdpc9391
      @jdpc9391 Месяц назад

      @@Spike2276 Yeah, the focus in this one is the Japanese. The main character of this series is Toranaga, not Blackthorne. The fact that we see him in the second scene of the series shows that he's the focus of the series. In the book, It only appears as a character in the second part out of 5. The Story still revolves around him but always through the eyes of Blackthorne. The perfect representation of the book would be to have the Blackthrone story told as in the old show but all the Japanese parts from the five first episodes of this show. (Cause midway through the show start changing so much stuff. There is no Ochiba/Ishido marriage. Ochiba is a really super secondary character in the book and there is NO way that in feodal Japan a woman could "take" control of the politics of the land even if she's the leader's widow and the heir's mother. This is a change from the era we are living in right now. I sound like i don't like this new show but i do. It's not a 10/10 for me as a guy who read the book a least 5 times. It's my favorite novel ever... so I'm a bit hard to please and i know it lol.

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад +2

      @@jdpc9391 Yeah, Toranaga is certainly the star of this show. Blackthorne is often the perspective character, but he's clearly just seeing Toranaga's story.
      As for changes, well, like i said, i wouldn't know. But as for the Ochiba plot it's not the most egregious thing ever, as she doesn't directly take power but instead holds hostage the regents. And what gives her power isn't the fact that she's the Tayko's widow, but rather the Tayko's mother. So there's a little more wiggle room there for an aggressive takeover, and it's not a story without precedent in medieval times (for Europe, at least. I'm almost 100% sure nothing like it ever happened in japan. But the concept isn't alien to a western audience).
      With all of that said, i can see why you would be upset with changes such as bringing Toranaga into the spotlight at the cost of Blackthorne. But for someone with no previous knowledge, i do feel like the direction they took is more interesting for a TV series.

    • @scottneil1187
      @scottneil1187 Месяц назад

      I watched it when it aired, loved it, that and Tenko.

  • @NimbleBard48
    @NimbleBard48 Месяц назад +1

    10:45 AJ, the 1980 version was an easy 9/10 series as well. All 3 main characters of Blackthorne, Toranaga and Mariko were played out fabulously.

  • @EpicListening7
    @EpicListening7 Месяц назад +4

    Mariko is the best female character the last 5 years.

  • @TNM001
    @TNM001 Месяц назад +3

    just watched the last episode...i have mixed feelings.
    its well done, no question. characters all have their motivations, but it ends in exposition. thats right, the last episode is tell don't show.
    also, it may be unsatisfying for some how the stories end. it is deeply "utilitarian" in nature, meaning ppl just serve a goal, like tools. so, mixed message.
    even if you don't love the story or underlying message of it, the show is well done and acted, no question.

  • @sabihrashid252
    @sabihrashid252 Месяц назад

    I was JUST thinking about wanting you guys to do a review of this! It's brilliant!

  • @LiveAus
    @LiveAus Месяц назад +2

    Being portuguese, at first it bothered me to see the characters speaking english pretending to be speaking in portuguese, but i realise that otherwise the whole series would have subtitles and that probably would cut viewership in the USA. They made the right choice, this series deserves to be enjoyed by everyone

  • @leintati
    @leintati Месяц назад +6

    One thing they did intentionally get wrong were the footwear. It was decided to be impractical to use the footwear of that time iirc.

  • @awesomeguyvigil
    @awesomeguyvigil Месяц назад +3

    9th episode might be my favorite episode of television ever tbh

  • @emennt7656
    @emennt7656 Месяц назад +1

    Those documents (ship logs and Blackthorne's diary) from the ship that Mariko is to translate would be in English or Dutch not Portuguese, she only knows Portuguese ... did i miss something here ?

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад

      It's a little fudged. The book he used to actually navigate to Japan was stolen from a spanish sailor (who could feasibly be working for the portuguese and be keeping a portuguese log). But yeah, Blackthorne's own notes and records of his ship's travels (particularly any mention of piracy on his part) would most likely be in english, which no one other than him and his crew can speak.
      That's the one detail that doesn't make sense, and Blackthorne's logs kind of get lumped with the book he stole from the spanish.

  • @sw0rdz
    @sw0rdz Месяц назад +2

    They even use the time period japanese! I was so confused when I watched this series because I recognize little of the japanese. After some research, I find out the japanese is appropriate for the time period.

    • @KojiCT
      @KojiCT Месяц назад

      Yes but actually no

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 Месяц назад +13

    The Blackthorne actor is doing his best Tom Hardy impression.

    • @kurtschaaf2165
      @kurtschaaf2165 Месяц назад +4

      He doesn’t act like Tom at all, and I can actually understand him unlike a lot of Tom’s movies 😅

    • @lordythegreat88
      @lordythegreat88 Месяц назад +4

      I like him a lot, but there is a "We have Tom Hardy at home" aspect to it 😆

    • @GaudiaCertaminisGaming
      @GaudiaCertaminisGaming Месяц назад +2

      He’s like a cross between Tom Hardy and the guy who plays Grimes in Walking Dead.

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад

      ​@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming That's... Actually way more accurate than it sounds.

    • @sheenMoney1
      @sheenMoney1 Месяц назад +1

      Look up the great English actor Richard Burton. His voice is exactly the same.

  • @anthonyi.3118
    @anthonyi.3118 Месяц назад +3

    I think Anjin means pilot in japanese

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Месяц назад

    Anjin means “pilot,” like the guy that commands a ship and crew. They called him by his job. That was actually pretty much common practice with non-nobility at the time in Japan.

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago1 Месяц назад +2

    Lots of period pieces this year, One Love, Cabrini, Shogun, Masters of the Air, Manhunt, Franklin, and Ungentlemanly Warfare

    • @MentalLiberation
      @MentalLiberation Месяц назад

      Should we give a look to Palm Royale as well? So many funny people in that...

  • @dormammusubjective5774
    @dormammusubjective5774 Месяц назад +17

    Shogun and Invincible are my favorite shows of the year. Maybe the decade, so far.

    • @buddybarlow9604
      @buddybarlow9604 Месяц назад +4

      I just fucking hated how they split it into 2 halves...shouldve never happened

    • @mr.heisenberg1570
      @mr.heisenberg1570 Месяц назад +4

      You should really watch Blue Eye Samurai, it was easily the best show I’ve seen last year.

    • @dormammusubjective5774
      @dormammusubjective5774 Месяц назад +1

      @@buddybarlow9604 That was the worst release schedule I've yet encountered. Returning to the show with ad's was also salt on the wound.

    • @charliesmash
      @charliesmash Месяц назад

      @@buddybarlow9604wow you had to wait… get over it.

    • @lofilazy.
      @lofilazy. Месяц назад +1

      ​@@mr.heisenberg1570 Blue Eye Samurai is amazing

  • @Spike2276
    @Spike2276 Месяц назад +4

    This show is so good it actually got my mom to read japanese subtitles.
    But honestly, Toranaga himself is the start of the show. He doesn't actually appear on screen as much as you think, but each time he is there his presence is given meaning, along with every word that comes out of the man's mouth. His view on the world and other people reminds me a lot of Askeladd from Vinland Saga, and if your show reminds me of Vinland Saga in any way then you're doing something very right.
    I also love how Blackthorne's nature is what makes him stand out. He's a survivor, and unlike the honor-bound japanese who will die over the smallest cracks in their honor, Blackthorne values life, and not just his own life at that. He learns to respect the way that the japanese are so willing to sacrifice themselves at the altar of honor and loyalty, while at the same time having his own clashing view of "leave no man behind". He's kind of an asshole sometimes, but he's also a man of principle and that makes him likeable even at his absolute worst.
    And to round out the praise for the main characters Mariko is the perfect balance of firm, feminine, strong willed, and conflicted. She's a logical thinker who's bound in a three way split between her loyalty, love, and religion, and it's a joy to watch her figure out her own self.

    • @darrenjones1413
      @darrenjones1413 Месяц назад

      Another good show with subtitles Gomorrah my brother refused to watch it because of subtitles modern day Italian mafia old mafia meets young generation 6 seasons if I remember

  • @benjambreeg
    @benjambreeg Месяц назад +1

    strongly recommend reading the book. really fleshes out John , Mariko and Toranagas arcs way better.

  • @mat3714
    @mat3714 Месяц назад +5

    Alex is the Portuguese priest. Just look at him !!

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 Месяц назад +24

    This show is way better than Fallout

    • @Bobsob
      @Bobsob Месяц назад +3

      Totally different genres I enjoyed both equally, though I find the Shogun scenes a tad too long.

    • @stayderpn
      @stayderpn Месяц назад +14

      It doesn’t have to be a competition bro they are both great shows in their own right

    • @Melodicroger
      @Melodicroger Месяц назад +3

      Why not both?

    • @mrmr-qx4jq
      @mrmr-qx4jq Месяц назад

      I like tyrtles 🐢

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Месяц назад +6

      It's not even funny how much better this is. Fallout is an amateur production at every level compared to this

  • @mikebmade-it4218
    @mikebmade-it4218 Месяц назад

    So glad y’all decided to review this! Been watching week to week but I unfortunately hadn’t been seeing many people talk about it but glad y’all are!

  • @panad0r
    @panad0r Месяц назад +1

    It's good, however as a book adaptation I'm torn. I actually started watching the show before I read the book, only started after episode 3, but finished the book around episode 7. The first 3-4 episodes follow the book rather well, but from then on it diverges more and more with each episode. :( Especially Blackthorne is missing A LOT of character development he has in the books.
    I still enjoy it, but I also have issues with it. I wish they'd stuck to the book as they did in the beginning.

  • @Thrashifice
    @Thrashifice Месяц назад +5

    When Alex says something is a 10/10, it is a 50/10.

  • @gutchie7
    @gutchie7 Месяц назад +9

    Joe only knows Episodes 1 to 5. That is why his favorite characters are Toranaga, Blackthorne, and Mariko. We all know that his favorite characters will become Fuji, Kiku, Ochiba, and Mariko. It is truly a great story of strong women. Their strength actually resonates in men's hearts.

    • @Leonnie13
      @Leonnie13 Месяц назад

      This show perfectly depicted compelling, strong women.

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Leonnie13 It's almost like showing women going through adversities that are specific to women, and overcoming them by being clever and quick thinking makes for actually strong female characters. And it's almost like men can sympathize for the uniquely female struggles that they face.
      Oh well, i guess this was a nice little reprieve, let's get back to the usual routine and see who's the next infallible girl boss of the moment...

    • @ASR1nc
      @ASR1nc Месяц назад

      He said he watched more episodes than OJ and Alex.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Месяц назад

      Who cares, we like the story not your feminism or woke bullshit

  • @oscarchavez8527
    @oscarchavez8527 Месяц назад +1

    I actually watched the original Shogun back in the 80's and it was, for its time, a pretty damn good show. Amazing production value for sure, and the quality was top notch.

  • @Twest91x
    @Twest91x Месяц назад +3

    Shogun is good, but Fallout takes the cake for best show of 2024.

  • @michaelkenos
    @michaelkenos Месяц назад

    I'm trying to do a bit, where you buy that armor from? @AngryJoeShow

    • @Automaton2337
      @Automaton2337 Месяц назад

      I want the armor as well it would look good with the exact same Katana he owns which I conveniently have.

  • @KP-vr6sm
    @KP-vr6sm Месяц назад

    Great review Gus and I really hope when you have nothing to do you could do a blue eyed samurai review

  • @slappydoodle
    @slappydoodle Месяц назад +4

    Guys what r we talking about.....PLEASE IF U READ THIS DONT GET TRICKED
    There is really no episode that has good action
    U get a death here and there. IT IS 100% NOT A 10/10 SERIES
    At best its a 6 good costumes good actors but the writing is weird
    Characters who legitimately have no purpose r introduced late and r gone nxt episode
    The main guy who I guess is supposed to b the audience coming into the Japanese world is TRULY TURRIBLE. His facial expression is the exact same
    Dumbfounded
    Idk what they r talking about

    • @thervn4485
      @thervn4485 Месяц назад

      Nice try, Syder Fans. I'm sure you get wet from Rebel Moon part II.

  • @lordcorgi6481
    @lordcorgi6481 Месяц назад +4

    Shogun is the 2nd best show easily. Only Invincible is better. Then that's about it.

    • @bigdingus5359
      @bigdingus5359 Месяц назад +5

      Shogun is leagues better than Invincible. I love Invincible.

  • @jonm4324
    @jonm4324 Месяц назад +1

    I have the original 80's tv show on DVD right next to me. Its a classic. Waiting for the whole season to finish so i can marathon this!!! Glad to hear it's great!

    • @jdpc9391
      @jdpc9391 Месяц назад +1

      I love the new show, Be the old one is closer to the book. It's my favorite book of all time and I will never have enough Shogun content but the old show is still the best book to TV adaptation. The new one is Gorgeous and the action scene is fucking good. There are Amazing Book to tv adaptations with the Japanese character, but for me, all the Blackthorne part of the story is a bit of a letdown for me. I'm not saying the new show is not good. I'm just so much of a fan of the book (read it 5 times) that I'm probably a difficult fan to please. Would be happy to have your thoughts on whether you prefer the new or old one after a watch.

  • @shoutoutboxden9757
    @shoutoutboxden9757 Месяц назад +2

    Ep 8 is gut wrenching, no pun.. 9 is soul shattering.. I hope 10 puts the bow on it.

  • @dirtmike6258
    @dirtmike6258 Месяц назад +2

    shogun, fallout, house of ninjas ... god damn, some really great shows lately

  • @Whizzer_
    @Whizzer_ Месяц назад +1

    Your subscription services in the US have ads unless you upgrade!?! 😂😂😂😂

  • @Soniti1324
    @Soniti1324 Месяц назад +1

    The only person who loves this show more than me is my wife.
    As a lifelong Japanese learner, this has been so fun watching, and translating literally what they've chosen to alter significantly in the telling.
    The performances in this show are breathtaking. Yabushige. Mariko. Blackthorne. Ochiba.
    (Also, sidebar: something was up with OJ's audio in this video. It sounded blown out or just EQ'ed weird, maybe take a look at it.

  • @m0nk3yl0v3r
    @m0nk3yl0v3r Месяц назад +1

    Has a real early 'when-it-was-good' Game of Thrones vibes about it - so good.

  • @keithhutchings86
    @keithhutchings86 Месяц назад

    On disney plus there are no ads (in the uk)

  • @BehrmanTheBeerman
    @BehrmanTheBeerman Месяц назад

    I was starting to think this review wasn't coming!

  • @ryanreis7998
    @ryanreis7998 Месяц назад

    In the book, the character is referred to as Yabu, which may be easier to remember for your next series review.

  • @TearDownGenesis
    @TearDownGenesis Месяц назад +1

    10 out of 10 for me. I love it. second have is even better.
    I think one reason (of many) that this is so good is because it 1. Has clear source material. 2. Respect for the source material. 3. Has a clear season run, they aren't trying to hold stuff back to milk it until it dies a slow death.

  • @sweatyzeusgaming
    @sweatyzeusgaming 29 дней назад

    Did no one else notice the show just starts episode 5 in English dub after being Japanese for the prior 4 episodes? It REALLY bothered me how Japanese to Japanese speech became dubbed out of nowhere after I acclimated to the subtitles. I can’t find where anyone else even noticed it… I thought maybe I accidentally changed something.

  • @Yoxu-0
    @Yoxu-0 Месяц назад

    Ima have to check it out thanks!

  • @djJaXx101
    @djJaXx101 Месяц назад

    Final episode this monday for me, cant wait!

  • @whoodat5986
    @whoodat5986 Месяц назад +1

    makes me want to play Nioh 1 again. William Adams and Tokugawa Ieyasu

  • @JohnJames-yt1gh
    @JohnJames-yt1gh Месяц назад

    I get what they are saying about the subtitles and foreign parts should be in their natural language. It never bothers me when certain parts are subtitled. I just tend to struggle when the whole movie is in subtitles. I don’t read very fast, which causes me to have to stop and rewind often. The subtitles leave the screen to fast sometimes and I miss things.

  • @j.f.fisher5318
    @j.f.fisher5318 Месяц назад

    In the book, Sekigahara happens off screen. The epilogue is chilling though.

  • @SHEEMBA
    @SHEEMBA Месяц назад

    Damn. About time yall talked about this.

  • @kemoselimagic1479
    @kemoselimagic1479 Месяц назад

    I love how powerful firearms and canons look in this show. They aren’t used a lot but when they are man do they look intense. Especially a scene later in the show where a pistol is used quite a bit

  • @MangoTangoFox
    @MangoTangoFox Месяц назад +1

    This show is so good at the end of the episode each week I'm basically tearing up like NO DON'T END! You guys already disagreed with this, but I think Fallout was similarly addictive, just an entirely different tone and approach of course but great in it's own way.

  • @kevinlehmann3364
    @kevinlehmann3364 Месяц назад +1

    Just happy a popular channel is finally reviewing this series. This show and 3 Body Problem definitely were overlooked by reviewers

    • @scottneil1187
      @scottneil1187 Месяц назад +1

      Not remotely, there's a billion reviews of both all over RUclips.

  • @blacsk8r666
    @blacsk8r666 Месяц назад

    I was wondering when yall were gonna review this

  • @kjlphotographyvideolyrical6125
    @kjlphotographyvideolyrical6125 Месяц назад

    I was waiting on you guys to review this so long. It's awesome