I'm using three of the Fishman NEO-D Pickups and get really good results with a little mod: I tape a little metal sheet/coin onto the pickup right underneath the B string - which takes care of the string imbalance issue by weakening the magnetic field from below.
Thanks. I am fishing about for a lite weight sound hole PU. After installing a SD mag/mike, it is apparent the life is sucked out of the top when unplugged. I was not prepared for this!
Yes, that is definitely the downside to Mag pickups. The Mojotone and K&K are fairly lightweight and a little smaller dimensionally but putting things in the soundhole will always have an impact. Thanks for watching :)
The Mojotone had the least nasally mids one often finds in magnetic pickups so i liked it the most. The Fishman really showed its drawbacks. I could work w the K&K given the options.
the Mojotone respects the basic sound of the guitar and with this pickup if you have a quality acoustic guitar you'll never be disappointed. the other 2 pickups certainly have qualities but are much less close to the truth. I play on lowden and martin and since I've had the Mojotone Quietcoil NC-2 I've had the best amplified sound ever on an acoustic guitar. I've experimented with many solutions on the market, mixing piezzo sound hole mic, mic inside the guitar and sometimes all 3 technologies, but Mojotone is the best for me.
Wish we could have heard guitar first with no pickups, then Mic, then pickups? Not knowing natural sound of the guitar makes it tough to judge, but my order would be Fish, Mojo, steam then Gloss for natural sound, but maybe the steam improved the sound of the guitar?
Excellent demo and playing! I agree with your final thoughts. To me the Mojotone had the most overall 'natural' sound of the three and sounded pretty much spot on on all the recordings. The K&K was (is) the most versatile. Some sounds i liked some not so much but given the options it is very tempting to me as i already use the Pure under bridge pickup and various K&K preamps. Given the passive nature of the pickups one def needs a preamp. So, i am on the fork in the road. K&K w my existing preamps or the new Mojotone which might not as well w the K&K preamps..mmm, any advice?
Nice sounding! Can you tell me what I should buy if want get guitar top knocks and slaps to record too? I have Seagull with Godin QIt preamp but it is too thin.
I’ve listened to this so many times just to hear your playing! I’m very interested in the Double Helix and I think your samples have sold me on it. For my style of play, the K&K in Gloss mode is amazing. I also like that it’s passive and relatively easy to add a Pure Mini for a dual source should I choose to do that someday.
Yes, im contemplating getting the K&K. I already have various Pure pickups and K&K preamps, but.. the Mojotone just sounded great in all the recordings..mmm
Installed the K&K DH last night. While I have not tried a ton of soundhole pickups, this is my favorite by far of the 3 I’ve tried. I love that it is passive, dead quiet, and requires very little processing to sound good straight outta the box. So far I’ve only plugged into a Yamaha THR-5a, but I’m literally wowed. I cannot wait to try through my other amps and through a PA!
Waylon....i love the way you caress the acoustic guitar. i am passioanet about it but i feel stuck even with great tutor materials as a prolific song writer. please help me. what can i do. i love the K & K
Great review and playing mate! To me the Mojotone sounds the most natural, but I like the ability to be able to change modes on the K & Ks. You’re right about those extra loud strings using the Fishmans, and the mounting issue sounds like a pain in the ass! They still sound good though. How do you think the Mojotone would go on a twelve string? How much? 🤘🤘
Thanks!, I really loved the Mojotone too, total surprise! I think it would sound awesome on a 12 string (Minimum Soundhole Dia 83.8mm), we have them on our site here mcphersonmusic.site/product/mojotone-quiet-coil-nc-passive-acoustic-guitar-soundhole-pickup/
Which pickup have you found is the least microphonic? Trying to find a pickup that would function well thru a tube amp. I feel like the less microphonic , the better. I use a sunrise right now and I notice it has some microphonic qualities. I can tap the pickup and hear it! I gotta imagine the Double Helix on steam mode would be ideal.
Hello, thank you for this video. Because of this review/comparison, I pulled the trigger on the K&K Sounds Double Helix. I am running it directly into my amp and it sounds great. My only issue is general output. DO you have any advise on that front?
im thinking of adding a pickup to my martin ooo 28 ,, my choices i have narrowed down to the K&K double helix and the Fishman rare earth blend,, which would you recommend? mostly home playing or jamming with a few friends,, maybe an open mic
I liked both the Double Helix and the NC-Passive in your video take. Excellent review that really showcases their tone! Excellent playing too buy the way, For Those Who Wait is easily one of Tommy's most beautiful songs ever! I found the Mojotone to be surprisingly hot or "microphonic" as you said in your video. While the Mojotone does have sound great did you find it overly noisy? I ask because I'm torn between the passive or the NC-2 which actually has a mic built in.
Thanks! They were definitely my favourites as well. The Mojotone will amplify the body t but as far as noise levels go, it was very low noise. I have a test of the NC-2 coming in a few weeks, I'm really looking forward to checking that pickup out!
Another great review. Thank you. A couple of questions. Did you notice any noise with the mojotone? I've been checking that one out in other videos and noticed some buzz, almost a single coil hum. Second question, how would you compare these to the Sunrise and Duncan Magmic in your other review? Is there any great advantage to going passive over active. Thanks again!
Thanks! I did not notice any noise issues at all, often excessive noise all comes down to incorrect gain structure. For my needs the K&K and the Magmic are my favourites, I will eventually build a new rig with the K&K. The biggest advantage is no battery and a simplified internal wiring setup, honestly active has way more advantages though except you can essentially make any passive setup active with a good external preamp, cheers!
I bought that mojotone pickup last year and had to send it back with the excessive hissing it was causing, I was so disappointed because the reviews were so good
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar i wanted a pickup that was completely silent because a sound engineer told me at a gig there was a quiet hiss off my mag mic so I went and bought the mojotone and that was 10 times worse. Is that just the deal with these pickups? They're never fully silent or am I doing something wrong?
Hi @@eilisniaisi5954, Thanks for the message! Part of my day job involves working with musicians and their gear to get the best out of it. When it comes to noise issues like hissing, hums and buzzing often the issue is gain structure related and not actually anything to do with the pickup or gear they are using. I found the Mojotone noise levels super low and I have gigged for years with a Magmic, loads of different venues and SPL, with no problems and I would 100% gig with the Mojotone. If you can optimise your gain structure most of your noise issues will be sorted. I hope that helps, cheers!
Hi, these 3 pickups sense all 6 strings so they cannot be used like the Submarine, I will be building a Submarine style pick up in an upcoming video so subscribe :)
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🎸Do you guys have a favourite?❤
I'm using three of the Fishman NEO-D Pickups and get really good results with a little mod: I tape a little metal sheet/coin onto the pickup right underneath the B string - which takes care of the string imbalance issue by weakening the magnetic field from below.
Thorough & helpful. Thank you
The Mojotone caught me surprise! It’s right there w the K&K
Beautiful playing, Waylon. The melodic lines in the hybrid mode are enchanting.
Thanks, yeah I love that Tommy tune :)
Thanks.
I am fishing about for a lite weight sound hole PU.
After installing a SD mag/mike, it is apparent the life is sucked out of the top when unplugged. I was not prepared for this!
Yes, that is definitely the downside to Mag pickups. The Mojotone and K&K are fairly lightweight and a little smaller dimensionally but putting things in the soundhole will always have an impact. Thanks for watching :)
The Mojotone had the least nasally mids one often finds in magnetic pickups so i liked it the most. The Fishman really showed its drawbacks. I could work w the K&K given the options.
the Mojotone respects the basic sound of the guitar and with this pickup if you have a quality acoustic guitar you'll never be disappointed. the other 2 pickups certainly have qualities but are much less close to the truth. I play on lowden and martin and since I've had the Mojotone Quietcoil NC-2 I've had the best amplified sound ever on an acoustic guitar.
I've experimented with many solutions on the market, mixing piezzo sound hole mic, mic inside the guitar and sometimes all 3 technologies, but Mojotone is the best for me.
Wish we could have heard guitar first with no pickups, then Mic, then pickups? Not knowing natural sound of the guitar makes it tough to judge, but my order would be Fish, Mojo, steam then Gloss for natural sound, but maybe the steam improved the sound of the guitar?
Great demo, thanks for that 👍
Excellent demo and playing! I agree with your final thoughts. To me the Mojotone had the most overall 'natural' sound of the three and sounded pretty much spot on on all the recordings. The K&K was (is) the most versatile. Some sounds i liked some not so much but given the options it is very tempting to me as i already use the Pure under bridge pickup and various K&K preamps.
Given the passive nature of the pickups one def needs a preamp. So, i am on the fork in the road. K&K w my existing preamps or the new Mojotone which might not as well w the K&K preamps..mmm, any advice?
Thanks! I would stick with K&K if you are already running a Pure, I think the combo would be pretty amazing!! cheers!
Nice sounding! Can you tell me what I should buy if want get guitar top knocks and slaps to record too? I have Seagull with Godin QIt preamp but it is too thin.
By the way, I would choose the K&K as my favorite of these three. Great info about the Fishman challenges as well.
Yes, same here. The Mojotone was great but the K&K would fit into my multi-source setup a lot better :)
I’ve listened to this so many times just to hear your playing! I’m very interested in the Double Helix and I think your samples have sold me on it. For my style of play, the K&K in Gloss mode is amazing. I also like that it’s passive and relatively easy to add a Pure Mini for a dual source should I choose to do that someday.
Thanks :) Yes, I love the K&K super versatile!
Yes, im contemplating getting the K&K. I already have various Pure pickups and K&K preamps, but.. the Mojotone just sounded great in all the recordings..mmm
@@egoncorneliscallery9535 Yes, there are way too many great options nowadays, l just posted a video of the Mojotone NC2 as well😎
Installed the K&K DH last night. While I have not tried a ton of soundhole pickups, this is my favorite by far of the 3 I’ve tried. I love that it is passive, dead quiet, and requires very little processing to sound good straight outta the box. So far I’ve only plugged into a Yamaha THR-5a, but I’m literally wowed. I cannot wait to try through my other amps and through a PA!
Waylon....i love the way you caress the acoustic guitar. i am passioanet about it but i feel stuck even with great tutor materials as a prolific song writer. please help me. what can i do. i love the K & K
Hey. Can we plug-in these pickups into our audio interface and record guitar into Our DAW like FL studio protools ?
Great review and playing mate! To me the Mojotone sounds the most natural, but I like the ability to be able to change modes on the K & Ks. You’re right about those extra loud strings using the Fishmans, and the mounting issue sounds like a pain in the ass! They still sound good though.
How do you think the Mojotone would go on a twelve string? How much? 🤘🤘
Thanks!, I really loved the Mojotone too, total surprise! I think it would sound awesome on a 12 string (Minimum Soundhole Dia 83.8mm), we have them on our site here mcphersonmusic.site/product/mojotone-quiet-coil-nc-passive-acoustic-guitar-soundhole-pickup/
If you slap the top string do these pick that up well?
Which pickup have you found is the least microphonic? Trying to find a pickup that would function well thru a tube amp. I feel like the less microphonic , the better. I use a sunrise right now and I notice it has some microphonic qualities. I can tap the pickup and hear it! I gotta imagine the Double Helix on steam mode would be ideal.
Hi, I would say the K&K would be the go, check it out :)
Hello, thank you for this video. Because of this review/comparison, I pulled the trigger on the K&K Sounds Double Helix. I am running it directly into my amp and it sounds great. My only issue is general output. DO you have any advise on that front?
Cool, Great pickup. Try and get it as close to the strings as you practically can (It comes with some additional spacers), cheers!
im thinking of adding a pickup to my martin ooo 28 ,, my choices i have narrowed down to the K&K double helix and the Fishman rare earth blend,, which would you recommend? mostly home playing or jamming with a few friends,, maybe an open mic
I liked both the Double Helix and the NC-Passive in your video take. Excellent review that really showcases their tone! Excellent playing too buy the way, For Those Who Wait is easily one of Tommy's most beautiful songs ever! I found the Mojotone to be surprisingly hot or "microphonic" as you said in your video. While the Mojotone does have sound great did you find it overly noisy? I ask because I'm torn between the passive or the NC-2 which actually has a mic built in.
Thanks! They were definitely my favourites as well. The Mojotone will amplify the body t but as far as noise levels go, it was very low noise. I have a test of the NC-2 coming in a few weeks, I'm really looking forward to checking that pickup out!
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar I’ll be waiting for that review! Subbed!
Thanks :)@@smandez2023
Another great review. Thank you. A couple of questions. Did you notice any noise with the mojotone? I've been checking that one out in other videos and noticed some buzz, almost a single coil hum. Second question, how would you compare these to the Sunrise and Duncan Magmic in your other review? Is there any great advantage to going passive over active. Thanks again!
Thanks! I did not notice any noise issues at all, often excessive noise all comes down to incorrect gain structure. For my needs the K&K and the Magmic are my favourites, I will eventually build a new rig with the K&K. The biggest advantage is no battery and a simplified internal wiring setup, honestly active has way more advantages though except you can essentially make any passive setup active with a good external preamp, cheers!
I bought that mojotone pickup last year and had to send it back with the excessive hissing it was causing, I was so disappointed because the reviews were so good
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar i wanted a pickup that was completely silent because a sound engineer told me at a gig there was a quiet hiss off my mag mic so I went and bought the mojotone and that was 10 times worse. Is that just the deal with these pickups? They're never fully silent or am I doing something wrong?
Hi @@eilisniaisi5954, Thanks for the message! Part of my day job involves working with musicians and their gear to get the best out of it. When it comes to noise issues like hissing, hums and buzzing often the issue is gain structure related and not actually anything to do with the pickup or gear they are using. I found the Mojotone noise levels super low and I have gigged for years with a Magmic, loads of different venues and SPL, with no problems and I would 100% gig with the Mojotone. If you can optimise your gain structure most of your noise issues will be sorted. I hope that helps, cheers!
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitarthanks for the reply. I might just buy give the mojotone a second chance so!
Can these pickups can be used like a submarine pickup?
Hi, these 3 pickups sense all 6 strings so they cannot be used like the Submarine, I will be building a Submarine style pick up in an upcoming video so subscribe :)
imo they all sound like Japanese Strats
Stupid statement.
Fishman and Mojotone sound the same