I just ordered a 15k RPM server HDD to test, and I'll make sure the tape won't hit the arm. Subscribe to see how fast it spins! Thank you for all your comments!
@cskirt can you test it in vacuum somehow? Think of The Action Lab's vid on an Euler's disc in vacuum. But then, don't put a sticker on the disc.. I would try correction tape or something even thinner to reduce imbalance.
@aureliosacchio9252 Sure, I can test one in a vacuum chamber. I don't think correction tape provides enough contrast to the platters tho, but I'll see what I can do
yeah shocking it did over 30k before failing that is insane can you imagine how fast that drive would be if they made them that fast instead of only 7200 rpm🤣
dear passengers this is your captain speaking we have some good news and bad news, good news is we are landing immediately, bad news is, we're crash landing
@@tukezdiDear passengers, this is your captain speaking. I have good and bad news to share with you. The good news is that the engine is running, the bad news is that "engine" isn't a plural.
not really, Avg. HDD spins at 7200 rpm, this drive spins at approximately 34000 rpm, so its 4.722 times faster, the fastest HDD (Toshiba HG11 24TB) which clocks in at 304 MB/s which would equate to 1435 MB/S, and ist just the burst read rate, as long as the Head don't position itself faster, your everyday numbers will be much lower
@@autonomousperson gotta need a 3 phase AC, 40 volts from the PSU to power it adequately, but hey that's a whole roadmap. also SAS taking over SATA at this point.
you can hear the power supply whine in the background if you have headphones on lol you'd also need some decent cooling to make this even close to functional, both HDD and supply, 438W at 64V is around 7A of current
Yeah but how much time untill the bearings and stuff will detroy themselves at such speed ? It wasn't overengineered, the components are simply designed to be durable enough to function over a great number of cycles. Overengineering is basically designing things more expensive than they need to be, so you can be sure it almost never happens.
Seagate or Western Digital had a series of HDDs that had an RPM speed of 15,000. That was about 11 years ago. I think they were called Velocitaptor. Edit: There were 10,000 and 15,000 rpm drives.
Velociraptors had only 10k rpm. They were all 2.5" hdds, and 3.5" version used metal heatsink to fill the space between 2.5" drive and larger form factor. Enterprise hard drives have both 10k adn 15k rpm versions in both 2.5" and 3.5" form factors, for example Seagate Cheetah 15k, but 15ks were only either SCSI or SAS. As far as I know there wasn't ever 15k rpm SATA hard drive, and with a good reason. I had four 15k 3.5" 80GB LVD SCSI-160 drives in a RAID in my home PC at some point. They spun up like a goddamn helicopter, and sounded like box of angry rattlesnakes when reading or writing. No wonder they never got into desktop space. And single SATA 500G drive ended up being actually faster for day to day use. What's also interesting is that some 2.5" 15k drives are labelled "SS" or Short Stroke - they use even smaller (I think 1.8" or 1.6") platters, and yes, and the cost of capacity, to reduce travel of drive heads and increase random I/O and improve latency. These were aimed at database hosts, and held pretty well while SSDs were in early stages.
Bro is no one gonna talk about how the normal HDD startup sound is so nostalgic 🫠 I remember my childhood days whenever I turned on my pc to play some flash games (of course) I would hear that faint noise of the HDD startup sound
given that a 7200 rpm HDD can read data at up to 150 MB/s, if this worked at the rpm it reached, itd be able to read data at 710MB/s. which is actually faster than the about 560MB/s that a sata SSD can do. still nowhere close to an NVME drive though
HDD-s are so incredibly well balanced (and the materials used strong enough) that they probably wouldn't break even at 100k rpm. What breaks is the motor. The motor is built to handle high load for like, 30 seconds or so while spinning up, but once it's at speed, it doesn't take much power to keep the platter spinning at speed. So, the winding wires in an HDD motor are designed to carry something ridiculously small like 0.2A of current continuous or something (the wires are super tiny if you have ever broken apart one of these). If the wires were replaced with thicker wire (which also results in fewer windings per stator tooth), you could make it spin even faster and even longer if you wanted. It literally is simply the fact that HDD motors have been optimized to use the least amount of power possible for their specific target speed.
34K RPM!!! Whoaah!! If this were potentially "working" as a rotation speed per minute, I would be curious to see what the average access times and read/write throughputs would be in sequential (and 4KB random)😅
and for the plate too... the external point of the ssd plate is the one suffering the most stress of all spinning components (which is where the centrifugal force applies the most force) and once a small indent forms... it REALLY shatters the entire plate in a fraction of a second...
The read head is always the limit on read/write performance, not the rpm of the disc, the read head takes a very long time to move to position and even at just 7200rpm the disc has spun many many times before the read/write head can move a few mm. The controllers are the next bottleneck and this one is extreme, even if the read/write head could keep up, the controllers are not going to handle even a 5% increase in throughput they are already overloaded lol
You would be hitting physical limits on how fast the head could move. You would need a more linear storage algorythm to use such high speeds. For "standard" HDDs you could go up to 15k RPM but I doubt faster would be possible
@@AlpineTheHusky Why have the read head move at all. Just make a read head that spans the entire width and digitally move where it is active. No movement required. Bottleneck removed?
3.5" usually aren't glass ;) but metal or more like aluminum I guess or something similar. But not glass because it don't shatters like glass. The smaller 2.5 notebook HDD platters are made of glass.
That tape is going to be severely limiting the speed, believe it or not. This is not because of the weight, but because it’s clipping the needle. Edit: by needle I mean head… omg…
@@enderlore1337 that tape might cause some drag but the 'needle' is nowhere near the disk. if it were anywhere near the disk, that 'needle' would become a projectile.
I did this about 18 years ago, with one that had a FDB bearing in it, at around 12krpm it started to loose the oil so it became much harder to get up to sped to such extreme that the winding in it started to smoke a few seconds later. I filled it up with thin oils in an amount way over what it should and came up to about the same rpm when the coils started to smoke and shorted out and oil covered as a mist everywhere around it.
When I was a teenager I took apart an iPod that had stopped working, I found one of these discs inside and tried to prise it out using a screwdriver thinking it was made of metal. It shattered into my face and into my eye. I had to go to hospital to get the glass fragment out of my eye. I was a stupid kid!
I was subconsciously trying to block my head while watching this... lol I was so ready for the disk to explode. Pretty shocking it stayed intact at that RPM.
I just ordered a 15k RPM server HDD to test, and I'll make sure the tape won't hit the arm. Subscribe to see how fast it spins! Thank you for all your comments!
Nice
@cskirt can you test it in vacuum somehow? Think of The Action Lab's vid on an Euler's disc in vacuum. But then, don't put a sticker on the disc.. I would try correction tape or something even thinner to reduce imbalance.
Dont use tape it will make it out of balance......
@aureliosacchio9252 Sure, I can test one in a vacuum chamber. I don't think correction tape provides enough contrast to the platters tho, but I'll see what I can do
@@Cskirt 🙏please try at those speed it sincerely think it would have a impact
With that sound, I was waiting for it to fly through my screen!
Its vin Diesel laptop HDD
Often used in diy plane modeling
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
fr same
Yup. Got the feeling
Im impressed that that motor didnt give up earlier. A motor designed for 10w consumption having to deal with 300w uncooled is impressive
yeah shocking it did over 30k before failing that is insane can you imagine how fast that drive would be if they made them that fast instead of only 7200 rpm🤣
@raven4k998 except the heads wouldn't be able to keep up 😅
I was half expecting the platters to give up before the motor did
@jasonmurawski5877 same here 😂
@@raven4k998 hahaha 10 gigabit per second!!! XD
Bros turning hdd into gpu in terms of power consumption 😅
And fan noises
it might be at 33k rpm but still slower then my SSD
@@punker4Real i do not believe it!!!
@@roronoazoro9228 I had a server that had 6 10k rpm fans it sounded like a Jet engine
@@logandehaven8537 there's no fan, that's purely the disk
engine one checked, captain.
engine two failed!!...
Mayday! Mayday! we're going down!!
dear passengers this is your captain speaking we have some good news and bad news, good news is we are landing immediately, bad news is, we're crash landing
@@tukezdiDear passengers, this is your captain speaking. I have good and bad news to share with you.
The good news is that the engine is running, the bad news is that "engine" isn't a plural.
EDJECT EDJECT EDJECT
RIP humble motor. You worked to save our memories in eternity, and died to entertain us in a moment before we swipe this video.
and it exploded😱
That HDD will read data faster than NVMe drives ☠️
not really, Avg. HDD spins at 7200 rpm, this drive spins at approximately 34000 rpm, so its 4.722 times faster, the fastest HDD (Toshiba HG11 24TB) which clocks in at 304 MB/s which would equate to 1435 MB/S, and ist just the burst read rate, as long as the Head don't position itself faster, your everyday numbers will be much lower
damn, i had high confidence its gonna beat the gen5 NVMe drive
@@thomasmair93 what does this mean in basic human terms?
@@Lenevor 3 Bananas times 4.722 is not 150 Bananas
@@thomasmair93bro it’a a joke
All the files and data run to the edge
Compressed Data.
IMAGINE MY HDD SUCKING IN 400+ WATTS 😂
It die for it 😅
That's one nice motor to be able to run 400w burst like that
@@autonomousperson gotta need a 3 phase AC, 40 volts from the PSU to power it adequately, but hey that's a whole roadmap. also SAS taking over SATA at this point.
you can hear the power supply whine in the background if you have headphones on lol
you'd also need some decent cooling to make this even close to functional, both HDD and supply, 438W at 64V is around 7A of current
@@SilverSpoon_ speed controller for a brushless RC car would work excellent for these
Bro i was squinting at the screen the whole time. I swear that shit was going to explode. 300W and 30k rpm is mental!
GTA 6 HDD requirements:
So that's why it isn't out yet. 😂
12 TB HDD @ 33K RPM
thats why u wanna buy a SSD,
faster and better
@@Nvidia_GeForce_RTX4090 No u dont want ssd they are bad nowadays u want an nvme drive they are very cheap and one of the best
@@keiith69 ???
nvme drives are ssds...
that motor available to eat 400w is insane)
Overengineered to withstand five times more forces than in a normal operation (5 x 7500). It's amazing.
Alot more than 5 times the force
Yeah but how much time untill the bearings and stuff will detroy themselves at such speed ?
It wasn't overengineered, the components are simply designed to be durable enough to function over a great number of cycles.
Overengineering is basically designing things more expensive than they need to be, so you can be sure it almost never happens.
7200
Not 5 times a=v²/r so it need stand 25 times the force
Yet gets absolutely demolished when you accidentally drop it at half a meter
HDD revving harder than a 1000cc superbike
This HDD need a watercooling 😂
and support power 500w
And soundproof case
No bro it's needd liquid nitrogen extra nitrogen cooler system
No joke HDD waterblocks were actually a thing in the late 2000's, koolance made a few models
I was expecting it to come apart but it worked flawlessly ... Precision construction
Bro turned an HDD into an SSD
Edit: first time reaching 100 likes on a comment 😮 thank yal
lol
no SSD have no moving parts
It's a joke bruh@@derniko1992
Fr😂 no way
@@derniko1992you didn't get the joke man
We all wait for the gear shift
Seagate or Western Digital had a series of HDDs that had an RPM speed of 15,000. That was about 11 years ago. I think they were called Velocitaptor.
Edit: There were 10,000 and 15,000 rpm drives.
OMG XD
Saved my old wd velociraptor's just for nostalgia. I currently run a crucial t700 4tb and samsung 990 pro 2tb
I remember seeing those for sale
Velociraptors had only 10k rpm. They were all 2.5" hdds, and 3.5" version used metal heatsink to fill the space between 2.5" drive and larger form factor.
Enterprise hard drives have both 10k adn 15k rpm versions in both 2.5" and 3.5" form factors, for example Seagate Cheetah 15k, but 15ks were only either SCSI or SAS. As far as I know there wasn't ever 15k rpm SATA hard drive, and with a good reason.
I had four 15k 3.5" 80GB LVD SCSI-160 drives in a RAID in my home PC at some point. They spun up like a goddamn helicopter, and sounded like box of angry rattlesnakes when reading or writing. No wonder they never got into desktop space. And single SATA 500G drive ended up being actually faster for day to day use.
What's also interesting is that some 2.5" 15k drives are labelled "SS" or Short Stroke - they use even smaller (I think 1.8" or 1.6") platters, and yes, and the cost of capacity, to reduce travel of drive heads and increase random I/O and improve latency. These were aimed at database hosts, and held pretty well while SSDs were in early stages.
Velociraptor => 10.000rpm, Seagate Cheetah => 15.000rpm
Bro is no one gonna talk about how the normal HDD startup sound is so nostalgic 🫠
I remember my childhood days whenever I turned on my pc to play some flash games (of course) I would hear that faint noise of the HDD startup sound
I still use them they are music to the ears when starting up and stoping
I'm a SATA HDD.
No wait, i'm now a SAS HDD
Wait wait no i'm a SSD now
given that a 7200 rpm HDD can read data at up to 150 MB/s, if this worked at the rpm it reached, itd be able to read data at 710MB/s. which is actually faster than the about 560MB/s that a sata SSD can do. still nowhere close to an NVME drive though
"I identify as an SSD" 😂
Kawasaki silently marvels while standing on the side...
I calculated it and it's speed is 740 km/h 💀
It should be 351.561,6 km/h
Ik se ik physics ke mahan log bhare phade heh🥲💡
Nah 740 kmh on the edge of the disc looks correct. Circumference =piD= approx 40cm x 30000= 12000m/mn = 720 kmh@@dingweijin5832
At what distance from the center, rotational speed has nothing to do with distance traveled
@@Zaydmeperifheral speed, but you need to know the diameter of the disc...
When you need to download BlackOps 6 as fast as possible.
HDD turned into a f1 car💀
I was waiting for the gear shift.
@@PC_797 it's automatic 😂
It's was CVT
you know you have to liquid cool the motor or that hard disk won't last that those higher rpms for long dude💀
First time I think that is Car Engine RPM Monitor lol
i honestly waited for it to shatter like a cd would do. man, hdd discs are sturdy!
until you pick up the drive or move it or look at it lmao
@TomaTomohawk24 not always
Now i can throw my slow SSD away. Thanks for showing this awesome trick.
not so fast that is spin rate he didn't show what the read and write speeds were at those higher rpm rates🤣
@@raven4k998probably "whoa man slow the hell down!" 😂
that sounded like💨🚁✈️🛫🏎️🏎️📢🔊
Your hdd more power need than my GPU😂
My GPU: So i am not the only one.....
HDD-s are so incredibly well balanced (and the materials used strong enough) that they probably wouldn't break even at 100k rpm. What breaks is the motor. The motor is built to handle high load for like, 30 seconds or so while spinning up, but once it's at speed, it doesn't take much power to keep the platter spinning at speed. So, the winding wires in an HDD motor are designed to carry something ridiculously small like 0.2A of current continuous or something (the wires are super tiny if you have ever broken apart one of these). If the wires were replaced with thicker wire (which also results in fewer windings per stator tooth), you could make it spin even faster and even longer if you wanted. It literally is simply the fact that HDD motors have been optimized to use the least amount of power possible for their specific target speed.
34K RPM!!! Whoaah!! If this were potentially "working" as a rotation speed per minute, I would be curious to see what the average access times and read/write throughputs would be in sequential (and 4KB random)😅
The arm couldnt move fast enough. They arent even using the arm in this test just spinning the disk
@@JonLasaga
Get in the sea and stay there.
I didn't ask for a side of British babble
400 watts is crazy thats literally drawing more than my graphics card
props to that bearing for not desintegrating
and for the plate too... the external point of the ssd plate is the one suffering the most stress of all spinning components (which is where the centrifugal force applies the most force) and once a small indent forms... it REALLY shatters the entire plate in a fraction of a second...
Most modern HDDs use hydrodynamic bearings, which have no physical contact while spinning
Its preparing for it's role in the next final destination movie
Bro, that HDD must be producing 1 terabyte per second.
If the read-write head could keep up and not get eaten by the disks, yeah, lol.
this is the sound of a pc burning
Next idea for video: how many torque can it reach
How it sounds when you start Minecraft on a schoolcomputer
64.8v and 438 watts.
That's crazy😮😮😮
6.7Amper
Incredibly good. I could not help but cover my head anticipating what kind of supersonic chips would fly away at any moment.
The fact that it peaked out at nearly half a kilowatt is impressive! Did the controller just run out of headroom to drive it?
Motor cooked itself to death
*_I'm just glad people aren't making circular saws outta it..._*
I can only imagine how fast you'd be able to read data at that speed 😂
The clock of the controller wouldn’t be fast enough for these speeds. So endless you do some extreme overclocking, good luck.
@external316 I figured the controller(s) wouldn't be able to keep up, but just imagine if they could. That's all I'm trying to say.
The read head is always the limit on read/write performance, not the rpm of the disc, the read head takes a very long time to move to position and even at just 7200rpm the disc has spun many many times before the read/write head can move a few mm. The controllers are the next bottleneck and this one is extreme, even if the read/write head could keep up, the controllers are not going to handle even a 5% increase in throughput they are already overloaded lol
You would be hitting physical limits on how fast the head could move. You would need a more linear storage algorythm to use such high speeds. For "standard" HDDs you could go up to 15k RPM but I doubt faster would be possible
@@AlpineTheHusky Why have the read head move at all. Just make a read head that spans the entire width and digitally move where it is active. No movement required. Bottleneck removed?
What a great channel. Looking forward for server hdd test 🎉
Finally a new way to download much more faster
this is mad funny! liked and subbed
Based on the HDD disk 💿 shatter like glass this can't be a safe experiment with the centrifugal force in 50k rpm 😶
3.5" usually aren't glass ;) but metal or more like aluminum I guess or something similar. But not glass because it don't shatters like glass. The smaller 2.5 notebook HDD platters are made of glass.
@@gumpi5 still unsafe though
It's a ferromagnetic material....
How did you came up with glass? 💀
Guys calm down he said shatter LIKE glass, keyword being LIKE.
I'm pretty sure the cameraman has isolated himself from the experiment, if not, well, cameramen never die (as long as they're recording)
The definition of over engineered. It's amazing
dude the sound of the sticker hitting the arm is amazing!
всё для эффективного разгона )))
"If i buy it i will fully use it" aah guy
Wow!
Did not expect that!
I mean is that even possible?
They are 12 volts!
How it didn't burn!?
probably he have lab psu and inceased only volts and keep the amps same, very impressive it reached 65 volts and almost 340 watts at 34104 rpm
@LordLab Watt is W = V * I so when we say 340w = 65 * 5
65V and 5 Amps is too much for a hard drive
@@mohsenbarati3960 it did not blow up , you saw the video
@@LordLab Hence my first main comment!
32552 RPM with 302W is wild, its probably 7TB/s fast! faster than an SSD NVME
Jetzt ist die HDD so schnell wie eine SSD 😂
What amazes me is how the read/write head is able to modify the correct sector as it flies by spinning.
I have heard of 3200rpm drives, but not 32,000rpm drives 💀
Woooaa! That was exciting! It felt like when you're in the waiting moment just before the roller coaster is about to launch at full speed !!!🥴
That tape is going to be severely limiting the speed, believe it or not. This is not because of the weight, but because it’s clipping the needle.
Edit: by needle I mean head… omg…
what needle
Is this serious or satire?
@@enderlore1337 that tape might cause some drag but the 'needle' is nowhere near the disk. if it were anywhere near the disk, that 'needle' would become a projectile.
@@_Pirate-King that was what i was thinking but the way he worded the comment makes me debate whether or not he was joking
@@enderlore1337 by needle I mean head, sorry.
если бы он не клеил белый скотч, а нарисовал метки белым маркером - возможно, диск разогнался бы больше с меньшими энергозатратами...
HDD go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Amazing that at this high speed it is able to read out data. A technical masterpiece
This bro just put HDD into a dyno like a car😂
It sounds like glass breaking in slow motion
That's very useful info. Thank you.
The fact a hard drive got to 34000 RPM and the motor gave out before the platters disintegrated is a feat of engineering on the parts of these drives.
Insane balance in the discs :)
Bro needs a dedicated psu for his hdd now 😂
So be aware that my HDD revs more than your supercar
That right there says a lot to how well made and balanced a hard drive is.
its pretty wild how extremely balanced the platters are on mech hard drives.
I finally know where my PS4 noise is coming from
Just me, or did anyone else duck like crazy thinking it was either about to take off, or fly right at me through the monitor 😂
After spinning so fast also it is slower that a ssd 😂
finally, youtube short i actually find entertaining
They're balanced very well, that's for sure.
I am not even there and I felt the anxiety rising and the feeling of the the disk flying through the screen and hitting me on the face
Damn I hope you were behind a blast shield! Awesome stuff.
OWWW a parity bit just hit me in the head
That's how my pc run at 50v 💀
Love that sound! 33000 rpm is insane lol
Finally getting SSD write/read speeds in that puppy.
Bro took "your pc sounds like a v6 twin supercharged engine when starting" to a whole nother level💀
I did this about 18 years ago, with one that had a FDB bearing in it, at around 12krpm it started to loose the oil so it became much harder to get up to sped to such extreme that the winding in it started to smoke a few seconds later. I filled it up with thin oils in an amount way over what it should and came up to about the same rpm when the coils started to smoke and shorted out and oil covered as a mist everywhere around it.
😂 Damn I think someone got scared at the end there lmao.😅 I would of probably done the same haha this HDD is fast as fuck boy!
When I was a teenager I took apart an iPod that had stopped working, I found one of these discs inside and tried to prise it out using a screwdriver thinking it was made of metal. It shattered into my face and into my eye. I had to go to hospital to get the glass fragment out of my eye. I was a stupid kid!
As a child I always thought that in the future, we would have such fast rotating CDs and hard drives... Yes I am old.
Wow that was stunning never guess that it could handle so much voltage
I was amazed not by the rotational speed but the motor that was designed for 12 volts could handle 60 volts without immediately burnt up.
Shit had me flinching back from my monitor waiting for it to blow.
"What's the data transfer?"
Here, there and gone. It's got the speed of infinity and beyond.
LOL nearly 440 watts into that little spindle motor. Awesome :D
It's incredible the discs don't break apart I was beginning to hold my phone further away from me
engineer:if you can spin it slowly,than you can spin it quickly.
I’ve seen these completely give in other tests, holy shit that this stayed intact!
whole new meaning to Seagate's Barracuda, It's our new V-8 drive
Impressive, i'd only known of the the 10K ones of ancient history.
Having the shield off during this is terrifying.
this thing sounds like an air raid siren
When it got louder my speakers sounded like an actual fan
So that’s why my old computer sounds like that, it’s probably the HDD!
I was subconsciously trying to block my head while watching this... lol I was so ready for the disk to explode. Pretty shocking it stayed intact at that RPM.