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Process 2 INSTRUMENTS on SEPARATE Inputs/Outputs/Blocks on HX STOMP
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- In today's video, I show you how you can process 2 separate instruments on 2 separate inputs/outputs with separate blocks/fx on the HX Stomp. This can be done in mono OR stereo inputs and outputs.
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0:00 - Intro
0:46 - Mono Routing
1:46 - Path A and B
2:18 - Split Y
2:54 - Mixer Block
3:38 - Stereo Setup
4:18 - Return In
4:54 - Send Out
5:27 - Stereo Routing
6:03 - HX Stomp Routing
6:33 - HX Stomp Return Block
7:00 - Send Output Block
7:40 - Split A/B
8:18 - Review
8:54 - Stereo Vs Dual Mono
9:33 - Outro
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This IS exactly what I was looking for. You've got the best HX Stomp videos by far. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏
Everytime I search for something like advanced you show up with a great video, You're the man. Love your videos!
Thank you 🙏
Im torn between the headrush mx5 and hx stomp. With this vid, i think i'm sold with the hx. Learned a lot from this. Keep it up Scott! ❤
Good choice! :) I love the stomp 🤘
Definitely go with the Stomp bro
This is perfect! I was just looking for a solution for my bass player to use his electric bass and synth bass simultaneously using the HX Stomp using stereo effects and separate stereo outputs for both. Thanks so much!
Great to hear!
This will work great with bass and vocals to get a bit of effect on my voice. Thanks!
Glad to help 🤘
Great video. Loved how you hit as many troubleshooting points as well. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thank you 🙏
Hell yeah thanks for this! Have two full metal rigs with an overdrive, amp sim, and cabinet for two guitars going direct into the PA!
This was exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks so much.
Thanks a bunch! This is exactly what I was looking for.
Brilliant! Thanks so much, man!
Thanks for the video!
Crystal clear, as usual. 👍
Thank you 😊
Bravo! I was just looking for this info, I use Acoustic and Electric in the show and was looking to do exactly this, thank you!!!
Brilliant video - thank you so much, Scott!
Glad you liked it!
That was really helpful. Great video!
Thanks Brad!
Thanks so much!
I've only just discovered you 4 days ago and now watched at least 10 of your videos. A few of things I had discovered myself through trial and error, but now feel like you've accelerated my one-woman-band mission by leaps and bounds, thank you!
Awesome! Glad to help out 🤘
Hi from Brazil...helped me a lot...thanks!!!Congragulations!!!!!🎉
Thank you!
Ill definitely try this
This is a great video topic. I use a SY-200 synth with my bass and/or guitar and this helps a lot.
Awesome! 🤘
I got an HX Stomp recently and I never had modellers before or complicated set ups of any kind, just my guitar into a number of mono pedals directly to my amp. Your work is amazing and so very helpful. You have a gift for teaching. Any question I have, you have a video that explains it in the most clear and fast way. Thank you very much.
Glad to hear that 🤘🤘
We do this with our HXSTOMP to run two independent guitars to the house. $600 for amp modeling for two guitars… and super compact in our rack. Hard to beat and it’s worked flawlessly for us for a couple years now.
Could we get more DSP with a second HXSTOMP or a quad cortex? Sure…. But we’re kind of a “if it ain’t broke….” philosophy band
Exactly! And that’s awesome you have been using it for two guitars 🤘
how do you do? because i want to do the same with my band, 2 guitarrist on the same hx stomp XL, independent input and output
Perfect video man cheers 👏
Thanks man 🤘
Great info! Almost exactely what I was looking for, only difference is I'm using an HX effects, and that doesn't have the aux send. It does have 2 send and return connections (of which one is already in use, but might be sacraficed) so I guess I can try and replicate this. Have to do some experimenting. Thanks Scott.
Love my stomp! I actually use mine to process 3 separate inputs, albeit 2 of them are not actually being processed by the stomp itself. I use it as an audio interface with my iPad. Guitar in inputs 1/2, vocals in return 1 and slide guitar in return 2. Because I don’t play slide and regular guitar simultaneously, I switch between presets for a quick solo, with a return block at the start of the chain.
Nice!!
hahahaha mate, watching your videos, I feel HXS is too much to me 😅 what a ton of functionalities !!
How can I do this setup but then also plug into the headphone monitors and hear the two different paths with their different effect blocks. Love your videos they're super in depth and helpful!
Hmmm that I don’t know tbh
Perfect! Very clear too, thanks for this. My XL is arriving tomorrow so I’m doing the usual swatting up before it arrives, but just wondered, do you know if I could process 4 mono synths with separate effect chains, or just the two? Cheers
… hang on, I’m an idiot. L and R panning. Getting too excited
Haha yup just 2. You can do 4 on the full helix which I go over in this video: ruclips.net/video/4gXWdJLMbL0/видео.htmlsi=B5UIOl8VVpFv_J0V
Thanks Scott! With my HX Stomp XL can I monitor myself Stereo using IEMs with Gtr and a Vocal and then send to Front of House separate Channels for them to mix in house?
You can yes, as long as the routing is setup similar to this with 2 in and 2 out. Stomp isn’t really meant for vocals, but it’s definitely possible!
This is freaking genius. I just learned about your channel as I bought a stomp HX to play with a specific band that requires a lot more sounds than what my normal pedalboard configuration allows. Does this concept also work with sending one signal straight to the board with the IR's, and another signal to a powered guitar cabinet? I'm assuming that it does. It looks like the first option could provided I add the IR's to one path.
Thanks! And yea I believe so 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Just looked at one of your other similar videos, and it supports this in theory. Going to try this out. You're an asset to those of us that own this, Line 6 should be paying you!
Thank you for this info! Is it possible to add a toggle to the two paths? I play solo with a guitar that has electric and acoustic options and would like to record my acoustic into the looper, then switch over to the electric sound for solos. Thanks!
Yeah you should be able to with snapshots is my best guess. ruclips.net/video/DG6CwBM9gzk/видео.html
This is super helpful. Thank you! My dilemma though... How can I run a guitar in, split the signal into two (one to an amp, the other to house with cab block) and still have a completely separate microphone I/O path? I have a Stomp XL. Seeming like I need Helix. haha
I believe you need a Helix to do that
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the reply! Was hoping there was a tricky workaround but no big. Thanks for your videos!
Hi! Thank you for the video! Say I wanted to use both stereo inputs, AND then send them as 2 stereo outputs together, how can I do that?
Blending 2 pianos together
I try using the return / aux in but the piano I plug in thru there isn't responding to the blocks
Thanks!
The outputs are TRS so you might be able to use a TRS to 2 TS cable out of each output, but I don’t know if that truly would work. I recommend getting a full helix or helix lt for more advanced stuff
Hey, thx for the great explanation :) One question, can I send output 1 as a mono instrument level and output 2 as a mono line level? can I send the same processed sound to a guitar amp and to a mixer/foh?
That I don’t know to be honest. I do not believe so, but I could be wrong
Can you do separate inputs but same stereo outputs? I already have another pedal hooked in the Aux in ports.
You should be able to 👍
Hi Scott love your videos good job ! I got a question for you I play bass and usually use a a/b pedal to split my signal to a guitar amp using a pog octave to simulate a guitar sound. Just recently got the hx stomp and was wondering if I can achieve that with just the hx stomp only ? So can one instrument have two different path with their own sound send to two different amps, and if so what would be the correct pathway🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You should be able to 🤘 use this video to guide you on how to use the split and merge and if you need more help, try this one: ruclips.net/video/26claKUgneg/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks !
This is great, thank you so much. But for an unknow reason, if if I follow every step. Splitting Balance Left&Right at split point, and doing the same thing at the mixer at the end of the ''chain''. From input 1( L ), I always have a bit of leak at input 2, but no leak from to input 1 when I play from input 2 with all setting panned correctly 😵💫
Oh weird… I’m not sure, try changing cables and something in global settings possibly?
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the reply. Cables are fine, checked the global settings as well. Just wrote to Line6 support to figure. I'll let you know when I get the answer.
Im curious, why not send both outputs to the main stereo out, and pan one path all left and pan the other path all right? So you have two mono output of a mono signal L and R? Thats what I do on my floor, Im trying to figure out if that will work on the stomp when I found your video.
You can do that too 👍
you get a lot out if the stomp. sure limits how many blocks for each. the helix and quad cortex support this kind of thing pretty well.
Yup, it depends how many blocks you need and how portable you want it. I often find that my hx stomp works really well for what I need 🤘
Hello and thanks for the very helpful information. the one issue i'm experiencing trying the second method is:
when running two separate paths, the option of using a "return L/R" block is unavailable. even if i create the block and then change the signal path option at the top of the chain, it just revert to either USB or Main L/R. any idea how this could be solved?
thanks for your time and this very useful channel!
Oh interesting… that I don’t know. I guess it makes sense because the send now becomes the 2nd output at the end, so it can’t get a return. So I don’t believe there would be a way to fix that. But I’ve honestly never tried it
Thank you for these useful videos. I bought an hx stomp box and I use it with other pedals (strimon riverside, ehx pog, mega distortion boss, zoom ms 70, hologram microcosm) through a real amp (vintage vox ac15 alnico blue or orange ad30 unfortunately both without send and return). I would like to add some pc plugins to complete my effects (especially midi guitar 2 jam origin but also other vst plugins). Depending to the preset, Some plugins should run 100 wet without the guitar sound (es jam origin when emulates a synth or a cello), others should be mixed with the guitar sound and line 6 effects (eg a slicer). I was wondering if and how I can integrate them through the stomp box. Can it do that or should I need to buy a helix lt /floor or other pedalboards (fractal, quad cortex)? Can you kindly say how should it be connected? Thank you in advance, Luca
It just depends on how many blocks you need. Stomp has 1 send/return option, whereas the full helix has 4 send and returns. Hope that helps 👍
Hey, this is really so cool. I wonder though why I cannot hear both signals via the headphone-out?! My goal is to have my bass through the main-in plus a stereo-in-ear-monitoring-signal (the one the body pack usually receives) into the returns. I'd like to run solely my bass out of the main-out and listen to both the bass and the monitoring via the headphone-out. Am I missing something or did I do something wrong in the global-settings? Anyway, maybe you don't have time for this, your video is spectacular :-)
Interesting… that I don’t know. I don’t use the headphone out often so I’m not sure
Could I use an ABY pedal wih my guitar in a way that it splits a "path A" for external pedals into the input A of the Stomp, and a "path B" that is clean into the input B? That way I could bypass all the pedals I have connected to my stomp through the first input with just one foot switch? I'm not sure if there's some setting on the stomp that I should pay attention to so the signal is equal for both inputs or something? Great video, btw. Didn't know you could do so much with the FX loop inputs
Interesting… that I’m not sure about if I understand your question correctly
@@ScottUhlMusic I'll try to be as clar as possible lol:
So, I have my guitar running into a chain of pedals that then goes to the first input of my Stomp that I use mainly for amp+cab. I would like to bypass those external pedals at any given time by one press of a footswitch, since for some situations I have like 3 or 4 of those engaged at once, and instead of turning them off one by one, I had the idea, thanks to your video, to have the the guitar using the two inputs in the Stomp, by running through an ABY pedal first (that I don't have right now, so this is all theory) that divides the signal in:
A) Guitar to ABY pedal, to "path A" running external pedals into input 1 of the Stomp
B) Guitar to ABY pedal to "path B" directly into the input 2 of the Stomp
That way I could use the Aby pedal switch to choose between the two channels offered by the ABY pedal. Again, this is all theory and I'm not sure if it would work, or if the Stomp would requiere any settings like balancing or something like in your video. Do you see it possible?
I hope that made sense and it's more clear haha. Cheers
Hi Scott. What you say in 9:15 is precisely what happens to me. I connect my HX Stomp to my Audiobox USB 96, using the two outputs of the HX to the two inputs of the interface and I can't get it to sound stereo. If I plug my headphones into the headphone output of the HX it sounds stereo or if I use a DAW and record something it also sounds stereo (the recording), but I haven't been able to get the interface to make my stereo signal sounds stereo!! My setup is HX Stomp -Audiobox USB 96- Presonus Monitors .
Somewhere along your chain you have something converting it to mono is likely what’s happening
Brilliant content as always. 👍 I use the Exp 1/2 - FS 3/4 Inputs on my HX Stomp to change Snapshots up and down. As such, I can't connect an Expression Pedal to that Jack. But, I'd still like to connect an Expression Pedal to my HX Stomp to adjust Parameters on different Presets. I'm not using my "Return/Aux In" Jacks for anything. Would it be possible to connect an Expression Pedal to the Aux In and control any of a Preset's Parameters? If it can be done, how should I set that up? Thanks
No, you have to use the expression input to use an expression pedal 👍 However, you can switch to using midi to control the snapshots via the midi port and then that opens up the exp port
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@@picksalot1 try the MVAVE Chocolate wireless MIDI controller. It adds 4 buttons and an expression jack, and you still have the FS1/FS2 for the other switches!
@@BluesJammer Thanks for the tip. 👍 It looks like the device could actually do what I want!
Did you ever try to play 2 guitars at once with the same signal chain? Everytime I plug a second guitar I hear the signal lowering and not be as powerful, did you notice it aswell?
I didn’t try with two guitars specifically, but you can always adjust the input or output or add a gain block to compensate for volume loss
I want to process my parker mags and piezo on separate paths, but for one gig to a mono output. Is it possible to do this using tbe stereo inputs? The jacks for my effecrts loop on the side are blocked.
Yes you can, just do a separate patch for that one gig where you need mono output
@@ScottUhlMusic how do I set the splitter so the left input stays only on path 1 and the right input only goes to path 2 until I merge them back together to share delay and reverb?
If I play 2 instruments thru hx stomp, can I get both guitar and stereo keys signals into the looper?
Yes I believe so
Do you get a drop in volume when splitting between two instruments. I've done this with my electric and accoustic guitar and it drops some DBs when I do this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
You can, that’s why they have the gain compensation at the end and you can control the volume/gain on each path digitally to fix it 👍
A quick newbie question, when I used my HX stomp as sole pedalboard without using any amp and cab sims, direct to marshall jcm2000 head. the output was pretty low. Global settings output was on the instrument level. However, when I bypassed the HX stomp, the sound came back to normal with the other drive pedals! Could you please help to fix the problem?
For now, I am using the power amp of the marshall amp and using the return to plug in my output of the HX stomp and use it by removing the cab sims!
Could you please make a video on how to use HX stomp as stompboxes directly with an amp?
My video coming out next week is called “why I sold all my amps”, so unfortunately I wouldn’t be the guy for that haha. But I don’t know why you would be getting that low of volume. I would check the global settings, you might have turned something on there. Also try a blank preset and see if it still does it
@@ScottUhlMusic Oops! I should try that too! Will do that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hello, greetings from Argentina, I want to ask you if it is possible, seeing as there are so many possibilities of inputs and outputs, to be able to connect the guitar and output in stereo, have the possibility of inputting an auxiliary signal (audio) and not having it output through the general outputs, The idea is to monitor myself and be able to listen to the mix (audio) while being able to use the headphone output. but only the guitar comes out, not the audio mix I receive... I hope you can understand me... thank you very much.
I have not tried that. But if I understand you correctly, I believe you can accomplish that using the send/return ports. But I’m not 100% positive
@@ScottUhlMusic Of course... I have the helix floor and I do it for quite some time and it sounds very good... I enter the send, but I don't know what it would be like in the stomp. being able to monitor myself from the headset and play at the same time.
I can't understand what I'm doing wrong. I need two separate outputs for the same instrument, one clean to the mixer and one with effect to my amp. So I created a Y split creating two path, one with all my fx chain and a clean one. On the mixer section at the end I panned the fx path (B) on the right, the clean path (A) on the left but if I switch the overdrive on it goes on on both out. Could somebody explain me why?
Yeah anything that happens before the split will be applied to both outputs, so you just have to think of the routing and which ones you want going out one and which ones you want going out both 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic But even if I have a distortion on the B Path and the B path output is set 100% on the right out why I continue to have the distortion on the left out?
I have tested it first with only one cable in the stomp box and discovered ..... Hell it doesn't work . Finally I came up with the idea that maybe it works only with 2 cables connected..... 🙂
Hahahahahaha, funny how that works 🤣
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