In some ways maybe it was the best timing... it must be horrific to lose a child especially in such a devastating way, at least you would only have to grieve for weeks to months at most when terminally ill... the grief of a offspring dying can last a life time, I would prefer the grief pain was as short as possible
I am ex flight attendant for Air New Zealand and I have been rostered to sit with families like the mother/father on the aircraft to offer support. It is very humbling.
@@JessieJunction I get what you're saying. My little brother died tragically on New Years Day of 2020. This November of 2024 my mother was diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer. She's been bed ridden since 2015 due to 2 strokes. However, I have never seen someone so okay with facing death. She believes, well we both believe that when we pass we are reunited w loved ones. I don't even think the pain of cancer has had as much of an effect on her as losing my brother. I don't want to lose my mom, but I want her to be ok & at peace for what has probably been a very long time.
The investigator interviewed reminds us of the wonderful professionalism intelligence and empathy of many investigators dealing with such complex cases.
I just can't understand why these programs think it is a good idea to have all the racket and sound effects drowning out the voices. It's totally unnecessary and distracting. At the very least they could put it very low.
.. could a young healthy guy eager to impress leading the production team .. half of pop is the elders who can't talk so fast or loud anymore, ears eyes going out, not eager for loud surprises 😬😬
Life in prison, 26 years minumum. Ridiculous the way he killed that woman, so brutal. In the old days he would have got the death penalty. Life's cheap now. Very sad. 😢
Sending Light ? What are you, a candle or a flashlight ?? douse the light come come in a box?? How do you send light ??? Love and Prayers, ok. But light sounds kinda hard to do.
@@kiwigal8134Learn the meaning of: "If the light within you is Darkness, how great is that Darkness!". For these are the very Words of God exposing those masquerading as 'angels of light'. Be warned!
It's the UK. The epicenter of the woke mind virus. It's a miracle he will serve any jail time at all. It's shocking some of the light sentences criminals receive there.
They are both leftist sham systems that are broke in numerous ways. Those laws need to be worked on, and the "over leniency" for crime(s) needs to be removed. Got to set new sentences and guidelines. Time to stop pitying murders and crooks. There shouldn't be any getting off easy for serious crimes. Will we ever see it? I doubt it.
No such thing in Australia and I'm pretty sure it's the same in Britain unfortunately. The only ones guaranteed to serve life, are those convicted of multiple murders with consecutive life sentences. So wrong.
Life is for premeditation, which this wasn't. First offence as well. Psychologist clearly said he was a nonviolent normal guy just caught up in his awful circumstances.
You go to work so you can do things in life and then someone comes along whose holding a grudge that he got sacked…instead of taking responsibility for why he got sacked…robs the company and for good measure kills a poor innocent woman…we are seriously living in a world full of evil…I still can’t fathom how one human can do these hateful things to another human…animals behave better…RIP Cathy ❤May her family find peace to ❤
Amazing resemblance to Cathy in the female (mom or sister ?) who made the post trial statement under the umbrella. Almost like seeing poor Cathy in that person's face.
Sick Sick tragic loss. I was afraid 😧 her Mom would just give up 😢 Just a fear… And her poor Father and so many people. I didn’t hear anything about her Company helping either. Again, doesn’t mean they didn’t. They were probably too busy about liability / OT for people coming in on Saturdays… I hope not but I’ve been through it in Corp world 🤷♀️ (It wasn’t ME but a close friend at work with a HEAVY load. But I never understood why she didn’t fire up the Company laptop we had with us 24/7 & work remotely (Like me) Nonetheless, my Company FREAKED out & they forced out one of the best.
It's not you. It's people getting more violent, more crazy and more psychotic by the year. It excelled in the last 10 years or so. Ego-maniacs with no regard for human live went drasticly up in numbers.
@@jesterday2222objectively, that simply is not true. Crime is down from the 1970-90s. The explosion of competing news sources online give us the impression that violence is worse, but we are just seeing more stories.
Life in prison with minimum of 26 years. BUT at the end of this episode, it says he was sentenced to 26 years. There's a difference between the two. RIP Kathy 🙏
So tragic. Im feel sorry for Cathy's family who lost a beautiful person who was doing her business she had planned. Horrible evil man took her life for selfish reasons so he could steal. He should have gotten life without parole. Sad for family!😢
Those are generic stock photos. Real photos/videos of crime scenes are indicated as such, like with the CCTV footage of Fagan having "Actual evidence" in the top right corner.
Not considered a psychopath, but he looks like an incel. The fact he blames everyone but himself makes me think there is a level of narcissism involved.
Never truer words spoken. I live in southern Louisiana and the crimes we deal with every day never cease to amaze me. People robbing people and then murdering them for no reason. Myself and my family sleep with firearms very close to us because you just don’t know who’s lurking in the dark. I literally have solar emergency lights just Incase our security lights fail. What is this world coming to 😢🥺🥺🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
People who make a difference in our lives are often just regarded as A PART OF LIFE How shameful of us for hardly ever shouting out Scotland Yard's never ending unbelieveable controbution in our troubled society. So " Thank you " to everyone who sacrifices their precious time, family gatherings and sleepless nights. Tanya D. Blake ( just 80 yrs) Queensland Australia.
_Could_ be free. He still has to appear before the parole board, so the decision will be theirs. If he's not deemed suitable for parole then he will stay where he is.
Only thing I don’t like is the so called experts giving their 2cents worth. Would rather listen to the cops talking. Other than that I love the poms shows
Does anyone see the ridiculous sentence here? “Life in prison with a minimum term….” If you plan on paroling this “upstanding citizen” then you cannot use the term “life in prison”. It does not qualify and is a misuse of the term. A better more appropriate sentence would be “sometime in the future the family will have to relive this horrible crime when in a short time we decide he is eligible for parole”.
Life in prison with the possibility of parole. The minimum term is the least amount of time to becserved before becoming eligible to apply for parole. Parole may or may not be granted. It makes a lot of sense.
How TF can you arrest someone just because you think they’re “acting” suspicious? And then the killer gets off with whats essentially a slap on the wrist? Freaking insane.
I believe that he should have gotten live with about the possibility of parole, I don’t understand the UK their sentences are so strange compared to the US 26 years and then he gets to try for parole, what if he gets mad at somebody else because he gets fired and then he kills somebody else. He’s done it once he will do it again! He needs to stay there for the rest of his life.
The murderer looked calm and not disheveled at all when he exited the building. His clothes were neat and clean. Not at all the picture of a man who's had a violent fight and ultimately murdered his bloodied victim. Where did he put the victim's bag? He did not have it in his hands, and if it was in his backpack, he must have stopped to dig it out and dump it on the pavement. Did CCTV pick that up? How strange...
@miavos.....Good points you make here...He obviously had time to clean himself up in the men's toilets, and maybe not have been wearing his anorak/overcoat while he was attacking and killing Kathy. If the handbag was placed on top of the computers in the rucksack, it wouldn't have taken him long to pull it out & discard it when he felt he was safe from cameras..🤷Who knows? Disassociation and cool, calculated behaviour is common in these kinds of murders - the psychologist says he wasn't a psychopath, but he sure exhibited the calm and organised behaviour of one after he had committed the crime. (Cleaning himself up, walking down the street normally as though nothing had happened, getting himself an alibi by going to a hospital in a distant area etc.A psychopath would behave like that, so l don't understand why our psychiatrist considered that he wasn't one.
Also, being criminally insane is an extremely high bar in UK courts. People with antisocial personality disorders are not, generally, insane in a legal sense. They think, feel, and behave in ways that are purely self-interested and unempathic. He clearly suffers from classic signs of narcissistic personality disorder. Why the interviewed psychologist didn't just say that is strange.
Cathy was still young when she was murdered and could have live longer than 26 years so the prison term of 26 years is cheap justice. The murderer was charged less than what he took.
File under the category of "Innocent woman triggers INCEL who flies into rage and murders". How typical of the producers to not touch on that, although the woman at the end does provides a somewhat PC version. And, I'm sorry but 26 years to life is not justice. It only possibly prevents the victimization of another woman for around 26 years. He will spend his days being well fed and sheltered and laying in his cell reliving the event and enjoying a little adrenaline rush each time. He may even find some time for a little online dating. Again, not justice.
Agreed. Why downplay the fact he was an incel at all? It's a huge part of his motive. Deeply troubled, violently misogynistic, and complete losers. RIP, Cathy.
It blows my mind how UK police will arrest anyone without evidence, then let them go with an apology, not caring that their lives can be ruined and always carry the stigma of guilt in some people's eyes, Shouldn't be allowed, arrest only when there's evidence for goodness sake 🙄
Poor friend checking up on Cathy and to get a Accused cause he was overly helpful and charged, this works have cause Extreme Stress and Anxiety and Depression for the poor friend, thank god they got the Evil Monster and he's got lots of time to reflex on what he did to a innocent former deceased work colleague, he's just a Cold Hearted Murderer , Condolences to Cathy Family, Friends All the way from New Zealand,🕊️🕊️🕊️
This happens everywhere witnesses often prompted by police. Evidence planted. Netflix, "the making of a murderer," epitomises this. If a man hadn't gone to the baseball and a show happened to capture him on film. If cell towers hàdnt proved he couldn't have done it. If he didn't have a lawyer who worked tirelessly. Another innocent man doing life or on death row etc etc. corruption everywhere. Murderers free. Especially, so many US cops.
I really liked the young psychologist’s insights. She seems to see and understand the gamut of emotions, reactions, and motivations of the interplay of these two random people colliding so catastrophically. Strange coincidence, too, that both victim and murderer’s surname are incidental characters in Charles Dickens’ Oliver Twist, and a Christmas Carol.
There is so much pressure by employers from their workers to go over and above in their jobs. Maybe Cathy wouldn't have been at work in her holidays and on a Saturday.
That's what I was thinking, they can have the best of police force and all the gadgets to help catch the criminals, but they only get put in prison for 20 yrs?!! Wth.
Yesterday I watched American Nightmare on Netflix and tonight I watched this and the difference in police work was striking. The New Scotland Yard employee brilliant police officers who put a lot of thought and techniques into their cases. The Valleyo Police department in California were hopeless. They just seemed lazy and disinterested in doing any kind of investigation. Instead of investigating the crime they just tried to lay all the blame on the husband and his girlfriend. If it hadn’t been a police woman from a different department investigating the kidnapper of the girlfriend on another case it might never have been solved. I’m sure the New Scotland Yard detectives would have done a much better investigation than the Valleyo department
The guy should have just aborted his computer theft mission and gone back another day. What a sad story. Twenty six years????? Not long enough imo! What a beautiful woman. Tragic!!!! 😢
@@janetpendlebury6808 He was sentenced to life, with a MINIMUM term of 26yrs before being eligible for parole. But parole is NOT guaranteed after the minimum 26 year term ... it's up to the Parole Board to consider whether this monster deserves to be freed. I sincerely hope he ROTS in jail for the rest of his miserable life!! 😡😡😡
What an Evil man and all she was doing is being a valuable employee 😮 But I learned the HARD way it’s NOT worth it. My sincere Condolences 💐 & Prayers for everyone impacted by her passing 🙄🙏❤️🩹✝️🕊️
Only 29 years in jail for murdering an innocent, young woman! Catherine would have been much safer if she stayed in New Zealand. Much aroha to her family
You have nothing to worry about if you are just helping people out. Anyone who finds a body is going to be questioned, if you didn’t commit the crime, you won’t be proven guilty will you!
Wow! Kathy's sister Brenda, could be her twin. So glad the forensic team found enough evidence for the jury to convict him. Evil lives among us daily..❤
@True Crime Central, very poor audio engineering. The narrators voice can be hardly heard, unwanted music being louder than the narrators voice. Please look into it.
26 years for taking a life, and always saying it is someone else's fault! - Yikes, that is a person who should NEVER be let out. So, justice... Uh, only if he dies in prison is that justice.
Why does innocent Catherine get a death sentence (or, a life sentence), and her killer get a mere 26 year sentence? Seems that HIS sentence should be as much, if not more, than hers. No, true justice was not served in this case.
Don't ever call me to check on a mutual friend, they acted as if he'd gone on his own, not he'd been asked to. Their arrest first, ask questions later, has ruined many lives and I think it's 100% wrong. Knowing how rogue UK juries can go, I totally understand the officer's concern. 12 reasonable people get into a jury room and go brain dead, refusing to convict an offender, regardless of the moumtain of evidence given in court against them. It really is mind blowing.
There's a glaring fallacy in suspecting the work mate in that another friend was concerned and called to ask him to go and check on her welfare. The odds that someone would just happen to call the murderer giving him a reason to be on the crime are astronomical unless the worried friend was in cahoots with the workmate but it would make more sense if they had been involved to orchestrate an alibi making themselves seen far from the scene of the crime.
Wow imagine being terminally ill with cancer and just before you leave this earth, your child is brutally murdered. Gosh that is horrific 😢
In some ways maybe it was the best timing... it must be horrific to lose a child especially in such a devastating way, at least you would only have to grieve for weeks to months at most when terminally ill... the grief of a offspring dying can last a life time, I would prefer the grief pain was as short as possible
I am ex flight attendant for Air New Zealand and I have been rostered to sit with families like the mother/father on the aircraft to offer support. It is very humbling.
@@JessieJunction I get what you're saying. My little brother died tragically on New Years Day of 2020. This November of 2024 my mother was diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer. She's been bed ridden since 2015 due to 2 strokes. However, I have never seen someone so okay with facing death. She believes, well we both believe that when we pass we are reunited w loved ones. I don't even think the pain of cancer has had as much of an effect on her as losing my brother. I don't want to lose my mom, but I want her to be ok & at peace for what has probably been a very long time.
The investigator interviewed reminds us of the wonderful professionalism intelligence and empathy of many investigators dealing with such complex cases.
Amazing diligence, efficiency and hard work by Scotland Yard!
An eye for such detail is what other detectives need to learn!
I just can't understand why these programs think it is a good idea to have all the racket and sound effects drowning out the voices. It's totally unnecessary and distracting. At the very least they could put it very low.
No music please
NO MUSIC, TOO DISTRACTING.
They need it to confuse algorithms for putting up video.
.. could a young healthy guy eager to impress leading the production team
.. half of pop is the elders who can't talk so fast or loud anymore, ears eyes going out, not eager for loud surprises 😬😬
It’s pirated so of poor quality .
26yrs is not enough. He should never be let out.
minimum 26 years. not sure but i believe that if a murderer does not admit his/her guilt, they never get out. life = life
Agreed. You take away a life on purpose, you then forfeit your own life. Simple.
Poor Cathy. To cross the path of this foul thing and lose your life so horribly. My condoleances to her family. Great forensic work yet again.
And 26 years? 😔
So noisy all this sounds ☹️☹️☹️
@@evelynpedersen7945 Do you here voices, too?
26 years in jail for intentionally murdering someone! Why isn't it life in prison?
I watch alot of these shows that take place in Britain. Murderers never get life in prison without parole!
@@jamiegrace9192 They do.
Most of courts are leftists.
Life in prison, 26 years minumum. Ridiculous the way he killed that woman, so brutal. In the old days he would have got the death penalty. Life's cheap now. Very sad. 😢
Sending light and love to her family here in NZ💜
Sending Light ? What are you, a candle or a flashlight ?? douse the light come come in a box?? How do you send light ??? Love and Prayers, ok. But light sounds kinda hard to do.
@@joepeanut6827 🔦🕯 light drives out darkness💜
Jesus is the light of the world, and he drives out darkness.@@kiwigal8134
@joepeanut6827 Ha ha..I was going to ask her something along the same lines m'self... Good to know not everyone can suffer such empty words.
@@kiwigal8134Learn the meaning of: "If the light within you is Darkness, how great is that Darkness!". For these are the very Words of God exposing those masquerading as 'angels of light'. Be warned!
I don't think twenty-six years in jail is enough. That is not a life sentence, a life sentence is fifty to seventy-five years in prison.
minimum 26 years. not sure but i believe that if a murderer does not admit his/her guilt, they never get out. life = life
It's the UK. The epicenter of the woke mind virus. It's a miracle he will serve any jail time at all. It's shocking some of the light sentences criminals receive there.
A life sentence is kicking off in your cell.
I thought Canadian judicial system was a joke. But then British judicial system raised the toast to another level.
Truly mind boggling ...
They’re both from the same root
Canada is from the Commonwealth, so essentially a very close judicial system
They are both leftist sham systems that are broke in numerous ways. Those laws need to be worked on, and the "over leniency" for crime(s) needs to be removed. Got to set new sentences and guidelines. Time to stop pitying murders and crooks. There shouldn't be any getting off easy for serious crimes. Will we ever see it? I doubt it.
No coincidence that we are LORDED OVER BY THE SAME CROWN! SMH
@@simonejuneau2143 Sorry about your luck.
A measly 26 years, so unfair.He should rot in prison for life!
It's a MINIMUM of 26 years, and he'll probably never get out, especially if he never admits culpability.
26 years? He should have gotten life- no parole!!
No such thing in Australia and I'm pretty sure it's the same in Britain unfortunately. The only ones guaranteed to serve life, are those convicted of multiple murders with consecutive life sentences. So wrong.
They don’t do that in the UK.
Life is for premeditation, which this wasn't. First offence as well. Psychologist clearly said he was a nonviolent normal guy just caught up in his awful circumstances.
@@feralkat9370I disagree. It was premeditated. He took a weapon, makes it premeditated.
@@feralkat9370 It is, what it is!
You go to work so you can do things in life and then someone comes along whose holding a grudge that he got sacked…instead of taking responsibility for why he got sacked…robs the company and for good measure kills a poor innocent woman…we are seriously living in a world full of evil…I still can’t fathom how one human can do these hateful things to another human…animals behave better…RIP Cathy ❤May her family find peace to ❤
The world seems full of narcissists who don’t want to work for what they achieve. Want handouts and feel entitled.
The world seems full of narcissists who don’t want to work for what they achieve. Want handouts and feel entitled.
It’s not evil. It’s illness. That created by the society we all live in, that everyone contributes to, even those who apathetically cruise along.
Amazing resemblance to Cathy in the female (mom or sister ?) who made the post trial statement under the umbrella. Almost like seeing poor Cathy in that person's face.
Sick Sick tragic loss. I was afraid 😧 her Mom would just give up 😢 Just a fear… And her poor Father and so many people. I didn’t hear anything about her Company helping either. Again, doesn’t mean they didn’t.
They were probably too busy about liability / OT for people coming in on Saturdays… I hope not but I’ve been through it in Corp world 🤷♀️ (It wasn’t ME but a close friend at work with a HEAVY load. But I never understood why she didn’t fire up the Company laptop we had with us 24/7 & work remotely (Like me)
Nonetheless, my Company FREAKED out & they forced out one of the best.
RIP Cathy, my heart goes out to her family and friends.
So terribly tragic!!! The older I get the more I don't understand! Why and who does something like this?
Such a beautiful woman.
ikr !
It's not you. It's people getting more violent, more crazy and more psychotic by the year. It excelled in the last 10 years or so. Ego-maniacs with no regard for human live went drasticly up in numbers.
@@jesterday2222objectively, that simply is not true. Crime is down from the 1970-90s. The explosion of competing news sources online give us the impression that violence is worse, but we are just seeing more stories.
Beauty has absolutely nothing to do with it.
The Untermensch
Life in prison with minimum of 26 years. BUT at the end of this episode, it says he was sentenced to 26 years. There's a difference between the two. RIP Kathy 🙏
Cathy
So tragic. Im feel sorry for Cathy's family who lost a beautiful person who was doing her business she had planned. Horrible evil man took her life for selfish reasons so he could steal. He should have gotten life without parole. Sad for family!😢
very sad for her family here in Aotearoa.
Heartbreaking to see her blood dripping on the wall and on the ground.
This is a shocking case. Really was ‘cross paths with a monster’
So sorry❤
Those are generic stock photos. Real photos/videos of crime scenes are indicated as such, like with the CCTV footage of Fagan having "Actual evidence" in the top right corner.
26 years? Ridiculous! How about 100 years (if not the death penalty).
Well the UK isn't a backward 3rd-world country like the U.S.
Not considered a psychopath, but he looks like an incel. The fact he blames everyone but himself makes me think there is a level of narcissism involved.
Great police work. You can truly see the dedication and sacrifice that police officer made. Thank you.
Minimum 26 years! It should have been a minimum of twice that!
What a SICK PERSON, how Sad for this young woman and family and friends.
Cathy’s poor family, so much loss at the same time. My heart goes out to them. NSY-admirable institution!
Horrific and extremely sad story!!! R.I.P. Cathy🌹
I'm so GLAD he is behind BARS!!! She definitely was an innocent woman in the right place wrong time. RIP
Another narcissistic Pyschopath, there are too many of those in the world it’s scary
+1 .. The former US President DJT is precisely that, a narcissistic psychopath. ..
Never truer words spoken. I live in southern Louisiana and the crimes we deal with every day never cease to amaze me. People robbing people and then murdering them for no reason. Myself and my family sleep with firearms very close to us because you just don’t know who’s lurking in the dark. I literally have solar emergency lights just Incase our security lights fail. What is this world coming to 😢🥺🥺🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
People who make a difference in our lives are often just regarded as A PART OF LIFE How shameful of us for hardly ever shouting out Scotland Yard's never ending unbelieveable controbution in our troubled society.
So " Thank you " to everyone who sacrifices their precious time, family gatherings and sleepless nights.
Tanya D. Blake ( just 80 yrs) Queensland Australia.
I used to hear my gramps say that, then later, my father "what's this world coming to"😊
The sound effects and the "music" makes it difficult to hear in many places in this video! Takes away from the quality of the video.
Truth be told!
I remember this case from an episode of "Vengeance: Killer Co-workers", but it was good to see such a tragic case be covered by another good show.
I’ve actually had the thought about someone strangling me with a scarf…I don’t wear the long ones much…her poor mother with that on her heart 😔
Most people use their hands. ..Wear scarves.
If it hadn’t been her scarf, he’d have done it some other way. So tragic!
This killer monster should be given life imprisonment .
Peter Bleksley . Great narration .
I like the way that the police respectfully use her full name, Catherine. They are not her buddies, so do not call her Cathy.
It's v scary that just 8 years from now, this murderer would be free!
Did this happen in 2005?
_Could_ be free. He still has to appear before the parole board, so the decision will be theirs. If he's not deemed suitable for parole then he will stay where he is.
No he wouldn't. Minimum term of 26 years is not halved or altered.
Only thing I don’t like is the so called experts giving their 2cents worth. Would rather listen to the cops talking. Other than that I love the poms shows
Twenty six years for a life so brutally taken without cause or reason, no justice.
Does anyone see the ridiculous sentence here?
“Life in prison with a minimum term….”
If you plan on paroling this “upstanding citizen” then you cannot use the term “life in prison”.
It does not qualify and is a misuse of the term.
A better more appropriate sentence would be “sometime in the future the family will have to relive this horrible crime when in a short time we decide he is eligible for parole”.
Life in prison with the possibility of parole. The minimum term is the least amount of time to becserved before becoming eligible to apply for parole. Parole may or may not be granted.
It makes a lot of sense.
EXACTLY.... LIKE BEING MURDERED BY THE COURT SYSTEM 😢
I hope the guy who stole her bank card was jailed also!
He didn’t steal it. He found it. And while it was wrong to use it, he did cooperate with police.
@@RickyMaveety if it's not yours and you take it, and use it, it's stealing. Especially someone's bank card that's pretty serious actually.
@@daveallen63 True, but finding something is still different from stealing it. I’m an attorney, and there is a distinction in the law.
@@RickyMaveety Legal distinction or not it doesn't make it alright. I'm a private citizen and it makes a difference to me.
@@daveallen63 Glad to hear that. Make sure you never find something. Straight to jail for you! That penny in the street, life in prison for you!
How TF can you arrest someone just because you think they’re “acting” suspicious? And then the killer gets off with whats essentially a slap on the wrist?
Freaking insane.
- Good investigation work. -
I believe that he should have gotten live with about the possibility of parole, I don’t understand the UK their sentences are so strange compared to the US 26 years and then he gets to try for parole, what if he gets mad at somebody else because he gets fired and then he kills somebody else. He’s done it once he will do it again! He needs to stay there for the rest of his life.
The US has 25 to life as a common sentence.
The murderer looked calm and not disheveled at all when he exited the building. His clothes were neat and clean. Not at all the picture of a man who's had a violent fight and ultimately murdered his bloodied victim. Where did he put the victim's bag? He did not have it in his hands, and if it was in his backpack, he must have stopped to dig it out and dump it on the pavement. Did CCTV pick that up? How strange...
@miavos.....Good points you make here...He obviously had time to clean himself up in the men's toilets, and maybe not have been wearing his anorak/overcoat while he was attacking and killing Kathy. If the handbag was placed on top of the computers in the rucksack, it wouldn't have taken him long to pull it out & discard it when he felt he was safe from cameras..🤷Who knows? Disassociation and cool, calculated behaviour is common in these kinds of murders - the psychologist says he wasn't a psychopath, but he sure exhibited the calm and organised behaviour of one after he had committed the crime. (Cleaning himself up, walking down the street normally as though nothing had happened, getting himself an alibi by going to a hospital in a distant area etc.A psychopath would behave like that, so l don't understand why our psychiatrist considered that he wasn't one.
Also, being criminally insane is an extremely high bar in UK courts.
People with antisocial personality disorders are not, generally, insane in a legal sense. They think, feel, and behave in ways that are purely self-interested and unempathic.
He clearly suffers from classic signs of narcissistic personality disorder. Why the interviewed psychologist didn't just say that is strange.
Cathy was still young when she was murdered and could have live longer than 26 years so the prison term of 26 years is cheap justice. The murderer was charged less than what he took.
May you rest peacefully Cathy... 26 years in jail should be a life term, for his evil rage.
RIP Cathy 🤍🤍🤍🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Fly high with the heavenly Angles 🙏🏻
File under the category of "Innocent woman triggers INCEL who flies into rage and murders". How typical of the producers to not touch on that, although the woman at the end does provides a somewhat PC version. And, I'm sorry but 26 years to life is not justice. It only possibly prevents the victimization of another woman for around 26 years. He will spend his days being well fed and sheltered and laying in his cell reliving the event and enjoying a little adrenaline rush each time. He may even find some time for a little online dating. Again, not justice.
Agreed. Why downplay the fact he was an incel at all? It's a huge part of his motive. Deeply troubled, violently misogynistic, and complete losers. RIP, Cathy.
26yrs? That monster should've gotten no less than life without the possibility of parole! Justice was not served completely!
Never go to work on the weekend if you can avoid it
Love the investigator scratching his head at 8:06 😂
It blows my mind how UK police will arrest anyone without evidence, then let them go with an apology, not caring that their lives can be ruined and always carry the stigma of guilt in some people's eyes,
Shouldn't be allowed, arrest only when there's evidence for goodness sake 🙄
Poor friend checking up on Cathy and to get a Accused cause he was overly helpful and charged, this works have cause Extreme Stress and Anxiety and Depression for the poor friend, thank god they got the Evil Monster and he's got lots of time to reflex on what he did to a innocent former deceased work colleague, he's just a Cold Hearted Murderer , Condolences to Cathy Family, Friends All the way from New Zealand,🕊️🕊️🕊️
The US police can do the same and they can legally lie to you. Which is a good way of getting false confessions. Police should not be allowed to lie.
This happens everywhere witnesses often prompted by police. Evidence planted. Netflix, "the making of a murderer," epitomises this. If a man hadn't gone to the baseball and a show happened to capture him on film. If cell towers hàdnt proved he couldn't have done it. If he didn't have a lawyer who worked tirelessly. Another innocent man doing life or on death row etc etc. corruption everywhere. Murderers free. Especially, so many US cops.
I really liked the young psychologist’s insights. She seems to see and understand the gamut of emotions, reactions, and motivations of the interplay of these two random people colliding so catastrophically. Strange coincidence, too, that both victim and murderer’s surname are incidental characters in Charles Dickens’ Oliver Twist, and a Christmas Carol.
Gamut, not gambit 🙂
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@theakeane • The characters names are Fagin & Marley, not Fagan & Marlow. Just sayin’.
Thanks for the warning I’ve heard that before too. I’m not even going to watch this if this is the case on this one thank you!
Saddest video
Eternal Rest Grant Unto to Her & Let Perpetual Light Shine Upon Her
May She Rest In Heavenly Peace
Watching from New Zealand
There is so much pressure by employers from their workers to go over and above in their jobs. Maybe Cathy wouldn't have been at work in her holidays and on a Saturday.
She looked just like her mom. 😞💔
I would think that was Katherine's sister. They stated in the video that her mum died before the trial.
It said that it was Debbie, her sister. Her mother had died
@@always_b_natural703 Thank you. 💜
@@lesleyhughes3174 Thank you. 💜
This dude took a life for ....laptops? I will never understand such evil. He should have gotten life in prison.
Send my condolence to Cathy's family ❤❤❤
Did I hear him say 20 years in jail for a beautiful life this beautiful woman is gone and he only gets 20 years in jail where's your justice system
That's what I was thinking, they can have the best of police force and all the gadgets to help catch the criminals, but they only get put in prison for 20 yrs?!! Wth.
No, he got life, with the POSSBILITY, not certainty, of parole after 26 years.
Wow, that's why people are afraid to say something when you see something😮. Either you are friends with he killer or the killer. Shame!
Police is highly incompetent
That psychologist could benefit from a glass of brandy and a square meal.
Yes, really it's synonymous with excellence in crime solving
Yesterday I watched American Nightmare on Netflix and tonight I watched this and the difference in police work was striking. The New Scotland Yard employee brilliant police officers who put a lot of thought and techniques into their cases. The Valleyo Police department in California were hopeless. They just seemed lazy and disinterested in doing any kind of investigation. Instead of investigating the crime they just tried to lay all the blame on the husband and his girlfriend. If it hadn’t been a police woman from a different department investigating the kidnapper of the girlfriend on another case it might never have been solved. I’m sure the New Scotland Yard detectives would have done a much better investigation than the Valleyo department
Americans r lazy 😂
Am obsessed with crime show but ur right Uk police are brilliant
The guy should have just aborted his computer theft mission and gone back another day. What a sad story. Twenty six years????? Not long enough imo!
What a beautiful woman. Tragic!!!! 😢
He got life, not 26 years.
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He was sentenced to life, with a MINIMUM term of 26yrs before being eligible for parole.
But parole is NOT guaranteed after the minimum 26 year term ... it's up to the Parole Board to consider whether this monster deserves to be freed.
I sincerely hope he ROTS in jail for the rest of his miserable life!!
😡😡😡
I agree cut the music and other sounds
Oh my God, the music in the background is so disturbing!!!!!
He needed life in prison without parole. Bless her and her family. 🎉
What an Evil man and all she was doing is being a valuable employee 😮 But I learned the HARD way it’s NOT worth it. My sincere Condolences 💐 & Prayers for everyone impacted by her passing 🙄🙏❤️🩹✝️🕊️
Only 29 years in jail for murdering an innocent, young woman! Catherine would have been much safer if she stayed in New Zealand. Much aroha to her family
Not only a very loud music, covering the voice, but even a cacophonic one! Terrible!
13:00 I sure hope that the over-helpful guy wasn’t the murderer. I’m always offering help. I’ll have to think twice now 😅
No he wasn't. You keep on being helpful 👍
Never be overly helpful that makes you vulnerable to usury
You have nothing to worry about if you are just helping people out. Anyone who finds a body is going to be questioned, if you didn’t commit the crime, you won’t be proven guilty will you!
Turn down background music
Wrong place wrong time!
Wow! Kathy's sister Brenda, could be her twin. So glad the forensic team found enough evidence for the jury to convict him. Evil lives among us daily..❤
Scotty yard cracks me up... They just start arresting, that guy...nOpe...that guy....Nope...."Ooze next Scottie"
Great video, but whoever mixed the audio needs to be fired. The narration is way quieter than the rest of the piece.
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Arrest the one sent to check on her without any proof? This is why people stay out of a tragic scene like this.
Surely there is no call for loud music!
@True Crime Central, very poor audio engineering. The narrators voice can be hardly heard, unwanted music being louder than the narrators voice. Please look into it.
There's no cameras in that building with all of them employees.?
It was 2007.
@@melissaharris3389 And that means what? they were invented then?😄
26 years for taking a life, and always saying it is someone else's fault! - Yikes, that is a person who should NEVER be let out. So, justice... Uh, only if he dies in prison is that justice.
SO SORRY BEAUTIFUL LADY. EVIL DRESSED IN SHEEPS CLOTHING WAS IN THE BUILDING WITH YOU 😢
Today I learnt not to go to work on a Saturday, and not to be 'overly helpful' towards the police.
The lesson here,don't go into the office,when noone's around
Why does innocent Catherine get a death sentence (or, a life sentence), and her killer get a mere 26 year sentence? Seems that HIS sentence should be as much, if not more, than hers. No, true justice was not served in this case.
The sound engineer really took mixing to a whole BAD level..
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There will never be justice until victims have more rights than criminals.
WORD!
Don't ever call me to check on a mutual friend, they acted as if he'd gone on his own, not he'd been asked to. Their arrest first, ask questions later, has ruined many lives and I think it's 100% wrong. Knowing how rogue UK juries can go, I totally understand the officer's concern. 12 reasonable people get into a jury room and go brain dead, refusing to convict an offender, regardless of the moumtain of evidence given in court against them. It really is mind blowing.
There's a glaring fallacy in suspecting the work mate in that another friend was concerned and called to ask him to go and check on her welfare. The odds that someone would just happen to call the murderer giving him a reason to be on the crime are astronomical unless the worried friend was in cahoots with the workmate but it would make more sense if they had been involved to orchestrate an alibi making themselves seen far from the scene of the crime.
This video is so disjointed and appears like many US shows with repetition, inappropriate music for added drama.😏😏
They should of known it was someone who worked there the killer obviously knew the building
26 years for Taking a LIFE!! He will get out of prison and still have a LIfe!!! HOW is this JUSTICE???
I think he panicked then all of his 'I'm a victim' rage came out on the poor girl.
Why are the officers open on Saturday or Sunday without a porter and no CVTV ????
Nowdays it's very important to install because too much crimes.
It happened in 2007. Now there definitely would be cameras in the entry and hallways.
But why were the doors unlocked to this building, how did he get in.
Yes. Just sad.
Sorry, I mean SO sad.
Wouldn't she also have known him?
Not necessarily―only if she had been working there for more than 10 months.
Very sad
Poor Catherine...just horrible..