Special Training Squad and First-Class Squad are extremely useful for Deerknights since the niche is small and most of the ops in it are 5 stars. Qiubai and eventually Viviana are the powerhouses of the niche naturally because they are the only 6 stars, but the 5 stars (Tsukinogi, Nine-Colored Deer, Firewatch, Czerny, and Coldshot) are truly the backbones of the niche, so building them up as soon as possible in a run is very important, especially Tsukinogi and NCD since they are the only healers in the niche.
A fellow deerknights enjoyer I see. Although I have not done much IS4, I can definitely see your point, deers are too spread out in terms of class and they are expensive in terms of hope early on. Reminds me of aZLing only IS3 runs where early game runs into the same problem of lacking necessary hope because the niche is also filled with 5 stars. Anyways I literally cannot wait for Coldshot.
I personally like Special Training, the 3 Obj. Shields are a nice layer of protection in case you fuck something up, since they don't count towards your main health you won't get more Collapse if you leak, plus the free upgrades are incredibly economic, by Floor 4 I usually have 4 to 5 6☆, mostly upgraded and with loads of Hope to recruit more. Out of everything I've tried this might be the safest pick.
prolly underrated that one since value should be comparable to tactical squad, cept you trade fast e2's for objective lives. Makes sense to me why I would cause I definetly favor fast E2 over objective lives stylistically
my favorite is support squad here, because unlike in IS3 you can actually reroll the shop and not rely on a stupid dice which gives you solid nothing. so I'm going full shopping mode. also out of those that I tried 5* squad is strange to deal with. I picked it out of curiosity and it kept promoting either those units that I had at lvl 1 or those that I wouldn't want to use. was already regretting my decision but somehow it managed to give me one operator that I actually wanted so amnesty it is
That's a huge problem with IS in general (and SSS to an extent). We all know it's valuable to have a varied squad, but HG should know damn well that we're not going to raise EVERY operator
@@123goofyking at least other squads usually promote several people to choose from (miss is2 squad with no rng), this on the other hand offered me exactly one. doesn't help that additional starting recruit suggested me freaking kirara
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w its even funnier, because I have a fair ammount of 5 stars on E2, and this shit somehow only gave me ppl I havent raised, even on classes that I have the most E2 in, like Guards and Specialists.
@@ketsura3618 desire sensor is real XD. this squad gave me a really tough choice between e2 kafka (why do I even have e2 maxed kafka?) and e2 yalter for the same price
Free reroll in shop is really great yeah, especially when you're rich and in bosky passage full of traders. That was the reason I spammed +20 ingots +2 hope squad for awhile. Also it might allow you to find some specific items on first floor trader, that you can use to start building your team over it. Like buffs for specific sub-classes.
I still think the People Oriented squad from IS3 is the best IS squad of all time. It's basic effect alone is OP enough. -1 hope to recruit and promote ANY operator might not seem like much but it plays well into IS's hope economy. Early 6* right after first node, can recruit useful 4* like Myrtle, Perfumer, Cutter... for only 1 leftover hope (which is worthless otherwise) and promote them for free. I often end up with whole squads of upgraded 6* and like 15 extra hopes on floor 4-5
@@anhnguyenhoang210 That buff from Survivor contract is insane, several thousands attack on an operator is very impactful. Plus additional relics is good too
@@wisadell It's a random buff which often gets dumped on ops who can't make use of it like Myrtle. This forces the player to either pray to RNG god or make a very condensed and limited squad. The additional relic rarely ever happen to make it useful, unlike the other two squads which have guaranteed effects. Overall too dependent on luck.
First class squad is such a life saver for me. I'm a relatively new player with grand total of 0 (zero) defenders at e2 and sometimes coping with just spot is not enough. Then a random bubble just pops up and save my entire run, got me finished ending 2 for the first time.
It would've been useful had it started you off with 1 index. Since it would neither benefit nor give you a drawback. But starting off with 0 directly hinders your run
@@benedict6962 true. Was so exciting to see 3 unlockable squads only for it to be that?? Like sure maybe we shouldn't have something as broken as insta e2 classes from IS2 (though i loved it) but just 2 index per floor while absolutely shafting your start is kinda ???
I'm so glad IS1-4 brings players to use 1 to 3 stars operators more active, and sometimes players still use 3 stars mixed with 6 stars for the final boss. 3 stars operators are useful in IS1-4 than event and story mode.
save runes that lower collapse for when u get one of the bad debuffs (at lv1) Then lower it before it upgrades you will likely get a diffrent debuff next time the collapse increases
I clicked on this video specifically to finally learn what Life Preserving Squad meant with "Clairvoyance now also predicts foldartals" because I'm like, it already fucking did that before?? Played a run with the squad to find out and when changing floors absolutely nothing new happened during the clairvoyance part. Would've never figured out on my own what it actually meant is "Clairvoyance will predict a foldartal every time and never a collapsal."
As someone who hate the debuff (I always want my runs being clear without any obstacles), I always pick the 'eternal hunting' squad. So from diff 4 and up, I always choose this squad and then pick 'as you desire' bc who can't resist free ops when everyone got +1 hope to recruit😂
Scientific Thinking Squad is actually the best, yes the best squad for veteran IS4. It give you so much flexibity to choose your road and scale up. Chinese Dalao go can go full 15 streak with it at N15.
You know I kinda stopped going for the class squads after they made promos random instead of guaranteed, but with there being no way to decrease hope costs now in IS4 like you did with IS3, and this vid, I decided to give em another go.
I like special training squad the most. It saves you a lot of hope in the long run if you use a lot of different classes. I beat every difficulty using it.
Dr. Silvergun: "Life Prioritizing Squad is only worth it, if you like gambling" Me playing a Gacha Game: "Don't think I'm gonna use that squad, I don't really like gambling"
I usually take First Class Squad, and combined with As Your Heart Desires recruitment set, I can get free 2 random 5 and 4 stars, and additional 2 (random class slot) of our choices operators choosen with maximum starting hope available.. I like it as it give me chance to use operator I normally wouldn't use (or even level)..
Medic Sniper E2 feels really good, since you can start with Kal'tsit or Reed (and at E2 if lucky), plus allowing you to pick up the other one later at a discount, and that's before you even recruit any snipers.
Special training and first class is just easy way to to preserve hope i feel the later is better in term of filling your squad, i always finish with more than 20 ops recruited in first class squad run it is better if you have 5* built already, and hoping to get free e2 that usable in early floor (as long its nor merchant/abjurer anything is fine) with those two kind of squad, taking more fight give you more chance deepen your squad comp, bosky is free recruitment most of the time 😂 (as long you know the risk) and you can focus to get relic/runes when shop appears (or you can just rob cannot)
Taking more fights is always reasonable a fight just has a higher value than an encounter the best encounters are just unique emergency fights for this reason
I really like the goofiness of Scientific thinking squad, I want to do a run where I spam Scout nodes and buy any Anti-interference index in shops that I can find, then get that collectible that uncaps Anti-interference index and go wild 😂
I've had that trinket and used foldartals that max out my anti interference on 3 nodes. Turns out the foldartal concord just gives you +6 anti interference, but it was a glorious run lol. Ended up with +72% Hp and Atk which is almost as much as an 8 class old fan.
Spearhead squad used to be my favourite but after knowing that it's light-draining squad in IS3 i never touched it again, wish HG fix this issue in IS4
Special Training squad is funny. First you're like "What's the point of free upgrade if I have no Hope to recruit in the first place" then you're like "I got 36 Hopes tf am I going to use it for?" 😂
Free promotion or any of the dual tactical squads (usually guard/vanguard) will always be my go to since I hate not having hope and those guarantee more promoted operators throughout the run :( the new types unlocked from the cross-culture stuff are too quirky for me
If 1st floor is hard, it is time to play that Defender-Caster-Sniper choice for starter. Unlike past ISs, this IS is defender-heavy unless you want enemy leaks in all over your run.
@@VectoRaith the harmacist one. Her S2 deals ton of aoe damage and heals operator who have her S2 on early stage. S3 deals with crowd of enemies with her chain of explotion.
i use special training squad more often because of how fast i can scale up very very early on. it has led me to difficulty 8 so far and am currently en route to 9 with it. That said, it's value is only as good as the number and variety of 6* you're gonna have on your squad. if you don't have much variety of 6* on your roster, it's better to use the Tactical Squads. The pros of it is allows me to powercreep early and finish stages i would no business perfecting on a regular run. The cons is that if by stage 4, you haven't hit most of your key upgrades, the Squad loses its value significantly. It leaves you with an inflation of Hope you never had the chance to use to recruit your key operators
Have you thought about making other guide/tips-like videos (like this one) with your overall experience with other aspects of IS4? Like, what ops you prefer to start with and what you'd prefer to get along the run, what nodes you prefer to avoid entirely and what nodes you'd like to get as many as possible and so on.
Special Training squad is really good as the game likes to give me vouchers for operators that I want to promote but don't have the hope for it. And yes 3 objective shields are not much but it's useful for the early rush when game doesn't give me a decent vanguard to hold that off.
For a guy who pick random unit voucher the 3 shields doesnt sound so bad. Man i should really stop picking random starting ops but its just so fun. But anyway im a bit disapointed in the unlockable squad
Sir, can you do a 5 star challenge run but you must bring at least two 1 star OP if you have 6 limit squad, if you have 7 limit squad then bring three 1 star OP
Bro i love you and i love your channel, but holy heck it's sometimes hard to keep up with what you're saying. 😂 (not the accent or grammar, but just how you sometimes sound the same between seperate sentences)
I hate scientific thinking squad. I took it and when I reached floor 2 I got the debuff where you lose max life everytime you lose interference index so it got pointless lol
Do you have an idea on the squad medals that you get for beating the specific boss with a squad? I know they get brighter with higher difficulty, but do we know the tiers? Couldnt find the info online.
currently the highest one in global is at difficulty 10 with white-silvery colour and there will be one at difficulty 12 in future. (yes it will be updated in future even you fight at difficulty 12 or above now)
I dont understand why is scientific thinking squad so bad? Sciel always uses it in his max difficulty runs and personally I've had success with it. You get a larger selection of collectibles in the mid-late floors and can move freely through linked nodes and bosky passages. The only potential issue for me is if you don't start with kettle or +2 hope because I rely on yato start
doesn't work well for me Find losing out on value early leads to further loses later, not worth It's bad early game for good late game so if u want that it works but i think that between all the strong runes and good relics in is4 it's very difficult to lose once you get past floor 3 so it's late game value is wasted.
Hmmm, I don't know if you can share your experience playing is when starting from 0, I wonder if you agree?Because I've just started playing is4 from scratch and it's quite difficult, so I need someone to share some experience playing is4. Fact: I'm a 4* only player 🗿
farm is super annoying cause of reduced score gain pinecone click spot is the best 4* start by far and nothing else is worth considering (believe i tried, i'm bored of playing it on stream too :D) gets a lot easier with map knowledge but basically just draft a well rounded team with ETHAN pure defender arts and physical and you should do fine
I actually have a pretty well built account (mlynar, surtr, horn, typhon, nightingale, many others - nearly maxed) , yet I struggle with IS so much. Furthest I made it was start of 4th floor, but I consistently fail on the 2nd floor. The enemies become overwhelming before I get the chance to recruit any of my actually powerful operators. I typically pick horn, kroos, and steward. I always run gathering squad because none of the others are unlocked. If its not the lack of a healer that kills all my ops, its lack of dps/too many enemies to block. Is there something I am missing? I am at least on my 20th run now, and little changes between the runs.
Which stage(s) that often kill the run for you in second floor? You probably can circumvent it by avoiding that stage or play around with deployment order and such Also no healing early on is quite bold. People pick Spot because he's a healing defender, so he can heal when needed
First of all make sure you upgrade those IS4 skill trees, focus on the ATK+ nodes. It'll help you. Second, try to swap your starting roster to Typhon-Spot-Lava. Steward ain't doing much for the group rushes the game throws at you in IS4, I find AoE caster much more useful here than single target except you have eyja. Third: hope that you get vanguard / medic early. Prioritize Ines if you have her, or 2 block vanguard over flagbearer. (Flagbearer only if you have enough lane blocker)
@@johanesbpermadi2016 This one worked. Swapped to typhon, spot, lava, and once I got one more defender it was easy to floor 2. Add on surtr and mylnar e2 and I got the first ending no prob.
Leader squad: If you're leaking in the first palce. You're either fucking awful/Not ready for this. Either way this squad is just not good. Provides no real benefit (1 life point recov lmao.) Gathering squad: This squad is significantly more late game oriented. Usually squad size increase are a pain in the ass to come by (deployment limit even more so). This kind of fix that problem. And also makes summoner much better i guess. support squad: Extremely early game oriented. This squad provide little to absurd late game value depends on floor 1 shop. It's not inconsistent but it's ok i guess Just don't take the floor 3 benefit of Remove all ingot for a absolutely gamebreaking 1 uncommon artifact. Spearhead squad: A squad that's actually fucking usable. This squad in IS3 is just fucking unusable because of the way the mechanic work in there. This squad provide your operator a 1.15x multiplier for attack and hp. Which is overall nice for everyone. Tact squad: It's wierd. It's either the BEST squad OR the absolute WORST squad depend on which voucher you get. Special training: it has a overall nice early game (3 shields) and a Powerful late game. Promoting for free is Really good to have. arround -33% hope cost for 1 ops is nothing to scoff at when most of your late game will have 0 hopes if you're going for expensive and strong operator. First class: Ehh... No idea... It has strong early game though and okish late game. Life prio squad: It's sorta cool in that even after 3 collapse effect is on. You'll still be getting runes instead of the game predicting the next collapse you'll get. So Ehhh... I guess... Scientific thinking: F. No competition there. It's defenetly as worse as Spearhead squad in IS3 (This is saying something. Spearhead squad litterally kills your early game completely for a shit lategame with those bad roll you'll get later) he ONLY way to save this squad is to SOMEHOW get the relic that uncaps your anti-interference tools (a BOSS ARTIFACT Mind you) and NEVER use any anti inteference index Eternal hunting squad: So it has no early game value. And only late game value. Cool i guess... But not strong nor weak
@@helmiboboy already tried that, works until that stage where you must face those red-hooded casters and invisible assassin from the last Yan event. Even Matterhorn + Nightingale won't hold. You still can win the battle, but the leaks won't make you survive the boss.
@@VectoRaith That one is easy (even in a emergency node) if you have Deep color tentacles and Roberta (the extra layer defense helps alot) to bait those red hooded assassin Yan
on d15 its still easy to completely steamroll the first 3 floors with almost nothing if you're not restricting what ops you use so scientific is very strong, just use a starting squad that can clear every floor 1 fight leakless like reed popukar orchid
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TLDR
Runes are imba but rng
If not runes get something that gives you hope
Nice. That's what I was planning for my medal trim run
Special Training Squad and First-Class Squad are extremely useful for Deerknights since the niche is small and most of the ops in it are 5 stars. Qiubai and eventually Viviana are the powerhouses of the niche naturally because they are the only 6 stars, but the 5 stars (Tsukinogi, Nine-Colored Deer, Firewatch, Czerny, and Coldshot) are truly the backbones of the niche, so building them up as soon as possible in a run is very important, especially Tsukinogi and NCD since they are the only healers in the niche.
A fellow deerknights enjoyer I see. Although I have not done much IS4, I can definitely see your point, deers are too spread out in terms of class and they are expensive in terms of hope early on. Reminds me of aZLing only IS3 runs where early game runs into the same problem of lacking necessary hope because the niche is also filled with 5 stars. Anyways I literally cannot wait for Coldshot.
I personally like Special Training, the 3 Obj. Shields are a nice layer of protection in case you fuck something up, since they don't count towards your main health you won't get more Collapse if you leak, plus the free upgrades are incredibly economic, by Floor 4 I usually have 4 to 5 6☆, mostly upgraded and with loads of Hope to recruit more.
Out of everything I've tried this might be the safest pick.
prolly underrated that one since value should be comparable to tactical squad, cept you trade fast e2's for objective lives.
Makes sense to me why I would cause I definetly favor fast E2 over objective lives stylistically
Special Training Squad is so good, I hope HG didn't nerf it like they did with the Tactical Squads
Basically same as People-Oriented Squad in IS3 but you can upgrade 2 or 3 op in Rouge Trader
I personally like this on lower difficulties (5 or lower) and Tactical squads on higher difficulties (6 snd above).
First class saves on recruit vouchers, special training saves on hope, and the class specific teams get the middle ground.
my favorite is support squad here, because unlike in IS3 you can actually reroll the shop and not rely on a stupid dice which gives you solid nothing. so I'm going full shopping mode.
also out of those that I tried 5* squad is strange to deal with. I picked it out of curiosity and it kept promoting either those units that I had at lvl 1 or those that I wouldn't want to use. was already regretting my decision but somehow it managed to give me one operator that I actually wanted so amnesty it is
That's a huge problem with IS in general (and SSS to an extent). We all know it's valuable to have a varied squad, but HG should know damn well that we're not going to raise EVERY operator
@@123goofyking at least other squads usually promote several people to choose from (miss is2 squad with no rng), this on the other hand offered me exactly one. doesn't help that additional starting recruit suggested me freaking kirara
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w its even funnier, because I have a fair ammount of 5 stars on E2, and this shit somehow only gave me ppl I havent raised, even on classes that I have the most E2 in, like Guards and Specialists.
@@ketsura3618 desire sensor is real XD. this squad gave me a really tough choice between e2 kafka (why do I even have e2 maxed kafka?) and e2 yalter for the same price
Free reroll in shop is really great yeah, especially when you're rich and in bosky passage full of traders. That was the reason I spammed +20 ingots +2 hope squad for awhile.
Also it might allow you to find some specific items on first floor trader, that you can use to start building your team over it. Like buffs for specific sub-classes.
I still think the People Oriented squad from IS3 is the best IS squad of all time. It's basic effect alone is OP enough. -1 hope to recruit and promote ANY operator might not seem like much but it plays well into IS's hope economy.
Early 6* right after first node, can recruit useful 4* like Myrtle, Perfumer, Cutter... for only 1 leftover hope (which is worthless otherwise) and promote them for free. I often end up with whole squads of upgraded 6* and like 15 extra hopes on floor 4-5
Nah, Mind over matter squad is better
@@wisadell Proof?
@@anhnguyenhoang210 That buff from Survivor contract is insane, several thousands attack on an operator is very impactful. Plus additional relics is good too
@@wisadell
It's a random buff which often gets dumped on ops who can't make use of it like Myrtle. This forces the player to either pray to RNG god or make a very condensed and limited squad. The additional relic rarely ever happen to make it useful, unlike the other two squads which have guaranteed effects.
Overall too dependent on luck.
@@anhnguyenhoang210 The buff can make even not otherwise strong unit a very durable powerhouse, which is always useful
First class squad is such a life saver for me. I'm a relatively new player with grand total of 0 (zero) defenders at e2 and sometimes coping with just spot is not enough. Then a random bubble just pops up and save my entire run, got me finished ending 2 for the first time.
Scientific Thinking Squad makes the think scientifically on how such a trash squad was able to exist in the first place
I want to like it, but those early floors are too tough.
If it was at least -1 index instead of 0, I'd see a lot more viability
It would've been useful had it started you off with 1 index. Since it would neither benefit nor give you a drawback. But starting off with 0 directly hinders your run
@@erfanthered9801 it's actually so terrifying to look at, I never had index at 0 but true blindness and the darker atmosphere was scary
@@benedict6962 true. Was so exciting to see 3 unlockable squads only for it to be that?? Like sure maybe we shouldn't have something as broken as insta e2 classes from IS2 (though i loved it) but just 2 index per floor while absolutely shafting your start is kinda ???
That's because you're took the wrong approach by thinking scientifically. If you need to think Scientifically, immediately run away, leave Sami.
I'm so glad IS1-4 brings players to use 1 to 3 stars operators more active, and sometimes players still use 3 stars mixed with 6 stars for the final boss.
3 stars operators are useful in IS1-4 than event and story mode.
I like the collapse squad because I experienced -40% DP with -60% HP on deploy... and I dont wanna ever experience that again
save runes that lower collapse for when u get one of the bad debuffs (at lv1)
Then lower it before it upgrades
you will likely get a diffrent debuff next time the collapse increases
I clicked on this video specifically to finally learn what Life Preserving Squad meant with "Clairvoyance now also predicts foldartals" because I'm like, it already fucking did that before?? Played a run with the squad to find out and when changing floors absolutely nothing new happened during the clairvoyance part.
Would've never figured out on my own what it actually meant is "Clairvoyance will predict a foldartal every time and never a collapsal."
to be fair it basically already gives a u rune every time
collapse effects are rare
As someone who hate the debuff (I always want my runs being clear without any obstacles), I always pick the 'eternal hunting' squad. So from diff 4 and up, I always choose this squad and then pick 'as you desire' bc who can't resist free ops when everyone got +1 hope to recruit😂
Thanks. My favorite is the Tactical Assault Squad. Start with Gavial Alter and work from there.
Scientific Thinking Squad is actually the best, yes the best squad for veteran IS4. It give you so much flexibity to choose your road and scale up. Chinese Dalao go can go full 15 streak with it at N15.
You know I kinda stopped going for the class squads after they made promos random instead of guaranteed, but with there being no way to decrease hope costs now in IS4 like you did with IS3, and this vid, I decided to give em another go.
I like special training squad the most. It saves you a lot of hope in the long run if you use a lot of different classes. I beat every difficulty using it.
Dr. Silvergun: "Life Prioritizing Squad is only worth it, if you like gambling"
Me playing a Gacha Game: "Don't think I'm gonna use that squad, I don't really like gambling"
I usually take First Class Squad, and combined with As Your Heart Desires recruitment set, I can get free 2 random 5 and 4 stars, and additional 2 (random class slot) of our choices operators choosen with maximum starting hope available..
I like it as it give me chance to use operator I normally wouldn't use (or even level)..
I know it's a very small nuance, but a Perfect is not losing HP. You can leak and it will count as a Perfect if you have shield available.
Medic Sniper E2 feels really good, since you can start with Kal'tsit or Reed (and at E2 if lucky), plus allowing you to pick up the other one later at a discount, and that's before you even recruit any snipers.
Special training and first class is just easy way to to preserve hope
i feel the later is better in term of filling your squad, i always finish with more than 20 ops recruited in first class squad run
it is better if you have 5* built already, and hoping to get free e2 that usable in early floor (as long its nor merchant/abjurer anything is fine)
with those two kind of squad, taking more fight give you more chance deepen your squad comp, bosky is free recruitment most of the time 😂 (as long you know the risk)
and you can focus to get relic/runes when shop appears (or you can just rob cannot)
Taking more fights is always reasonable
a fight just has a higher value than an encounter
the best encounters are just unique emergency fights for this reason
I really like the goofiness of Scientific thinking squad, I want to do a run where I spam Scout nodes and buy any Anti-interference index in shops that I can find, then get that collectible that uncaps Anti-interference index and go wild 😂
what does the uncapped Anti Inference index do since that item doesn't appear in my blind run yet .
@@helmiboboy Increases the HP and ATK of all friendly units by 8% for every Anti-Interference index past the cap at 6
I've had that trinket and used foldartals that max out my anti interference on 3 nodes. Turns out the foldartal concord just gives you +6 anti interference, but it was a glorious run lol. Ended up with +72% Hp and Atk which is almost as much as an 8 class old fan.
Spearhead squad used to be my favourite but after knowing that it's light-draining squad in IS3 i never touched it again, wish HG fix this issue in IS4
in is4 only leaking punishes you
HG already fixed it by not having Collapse Value directly linked to your current LP state
Special Training squad is funny. First you're like "What's the point of free upgrade if I have no Hope to recruit in the first place" then you're like "I got 36 Hopes tf am I going to use it for?" 😂
I fucking love Special Training Squad since I have the most success of clearing a run with that squad. Free promotion is godsend.
Free promotion or any of the dual tactical squads (usually guard/vanguard) will always be my go to since I hate not having hope and those guarantee more promoted operators throughout the run :( the new types unlocked from the cross-culture stuff are too quirky for me
Oh i needed this video badly, thankyou!
youve become one of my fav ak creators now
thank you for your work!
This is good content sir ☕
Me who still can’t beat the first floor🗿
If 1st floor is hard, it is time to play that Defender-Caster-Sniper choice for starter. Unlike past ISs, this IS is defender-heavy unless you want enemy leaks in all over your run.
Try getting Reed if you're not running a niche, she's great for the first floor stages (and the rest of it too).
@@awes5893 which Reed? The vanguard or harmacist one?
@@VectoRaith Harmacist. Her S2 and S3 both work wonders depending on the stage. I've found more use for her S3 though (it's funny).
@@VectoRaith the harmacist one. Her S2 deals ton of aoe damage and heals operator who have her S2 on early stage. S3 deals with crowd of enemies with her chain of explotion.
Special Training Square works miracles for me
"Life Prioritizing Squad is only good if you like gambling"
WE GACHA PLAYERS OR NAH???
i use special training squad more often because of how fast i can scale up very very early on. it has led me to difficulty 8 so far and am currently en route to 9 with it. That said, it's value is only as good as the number and variety of 6* you're gonna have on your squad. if you don't have much variety of 6* on your roster, it's better to use the Tactical Squads. The pros of it is allows me to powercreep early and finish stages i would no business perfecting on a regular run. The cons is that if by stage 4, you haven't hit most of your key upgrades, the Squad loses its value significantly. It leaves you with an inflation of Hope you never had the chance to use to recruit your key operators
Starting a run with zero Index/Equipment at floor 1 is scary 😨
Ngl DP regen debuff is enough for me to place Eternal hunting in the S tier, without DP relics or multiple vanguards it can ruin the run pretty easily
lol im forget to use research point XD
Been stuck on difficulty 13 but my most good squad is the tactical ranged squad reed start is too good
Have you thought about making other guide/tips-like videos (like this one) with your overall experience with other aspects of IS4? Like, what ops you prefer to start with and what you'd prefer to get along the run, what nodes you prefer to avoid entirely and what nodes you'd like to get as many as possible and so on.
I can talk about but I don't play it with 6* so my experience will be a bit off from what a normal player has
@@DrSilvergun but that's the best part, no? 🙂
Special Training squad is really good as the game likes to give me vouchers for operators that I want to promote but don't have the hope for it.
And yes 3 objective shields are not much but it's useful for the early rush when game doesn't give me a decent vanguard to hold that off.
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For a guy who pick random unit voucher the 3 shields doesnt sound so bad. Man i should really stop picking random starting ops but its just so fun. But anyway im a bit disapointed in the unlockable squad
is it known there will be upgrades for the special squads in the future like with the Dice squad in IS3?
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Thx for the video!
Hey Silvergun, you're saying rune combos are broken? Can I ask which combos? Just for future reference, I'm still stuck on IS3 lol
too many to count when you have an excess of runes
Most imba one is human + migrate (selects a bunch of nodes and turns them into bossky passge)
Upper red rune and +50aspd, just steamroll the boss
You can still get a perfect with a leak if you have enough shield no?
yeah objective lives don't count
Sir, can you do a 5 star challenge run but you must bring at least two 1 star OP if you have 6 limit squad, if you have 7 limit squad then bring three 1 star OP
Bro i love you and i love your channel, but holy heck it's sometimes hard to keep up with what you're saying. 😂
(not the accent or grammar, but just how you sometimes sound the same between seperate sentences)
I hate scientific thinking squad. I took it and when I reached floor 2 I got the debuff where you lose max life everytime you lose interference index so it got pointless lol
Do you have an idea on the squad medals that you get for beating the specific boss with a squad?
I know they get brighter with higher difficulty, but do we know the tiers? Couldnt find the info online.
currently the highest one in global is at difficulty 10 with white-silvery colour and there will be one at difficulty 12 in future. (yes it will be updated in future even you fight at difficulty 12 or above now)
Thanks a lot for the info, you a hero, may you get free temporary młynar@stupldworm
I dont understand why is scientific thinking squad so bad? Sciel always uses it in his max difficulty runs and personally I've had success with it. You get a larger selection of collectibles in the mid-late floors and can move freely through linked nodes and bosky passages. The only potential issue for me is if you don't start with kettle or +2 hope because I rely on yato start
doesn't work well for me
Find losing out on value early leads to further loses later, not worth
It's bad early game for good late game so if u want that it works
but i think that between all the strong runes and good relics in is4 it's very difficult to lose once you get past floor 3
so it's late game value is wasted.
Hmmm, I don't know if you can share your experience playing is when starting from 0, I wonder if you agree?Because I've just started playing is4 from scratch and it's quite difficult, so I need someone to share some experience playing is4.
Fact: I'm a 4* only player 🗿
farm is super annoying cause of reduced score gain
pinecone click spot is the best 4* start by far and nothing else is worth considering (believe i tried, i'm bored of playing it on stream too :D)
gets a lot easier with map knowledge but basically just draft a well rounded team with ETHAN pure defender arts and physical and you should do fine
I actually have a pretty well built account (mlynar, surtr, horn, typhon, nightingale, many others - nearly maxed) , yet I struggle with IS so much.
Furthest I made it was start of 4th floor, but I consistently fail on the 2nd floor. The enemies become overwhelming before I get the chance to recruit any of my actually powerful operators.
I typically pick horn, kroos, and steward. I always run gathering squad because none of the others are unlocked.
If its not the lack of a healer that kills all my ops, its lack of dps/too many enemies to block.
Is there something I am missing? I am at least on my 20th run now, and little changes between the runs.
Which stage(s) that often kill the run for you in second floor? You probably can circumvent it by avoiding that stage or play around with deployment order and such
Also no healing early on is quite bold. People pick Spot because he's a healing defender, so he can heal when needed
First of all make sure you upgrade those IS4 skill trees, focus on the ATK+ nodes. It'll help you.
Second, try to swap your starting roster to Typhon-Spot-Lava. Steward ain't doing much for the group rushes the game throws at you in IS4, I find AoE caster much more useful here than single target except you have eyja.
Third: hope that you get vanguard / medic early. Prioritize Ines if you have her, or 2 block vanguard over flagbearer. (Flagbearer only if you have enough lane blocker)
@@johanesbpermadi2016 This one worked.
Swapped to typhon, spot, lava, and once I got one more defender it was easy to floor 2. Add on surtr and mylnar e2 and I got the first ending no prob.
@@cleveland2286 awesome! glad to help
You had 292 ingots invested in the shop at the end of the stream but now you have 505 invested how did you invest so much so fast?
Probably spamming Support squad, reach the shop, donate all, abandon expedition and repeat
@@C19H38 Yeah I also think so. I want to do the same but it's so boring to do
@@C19H38 Yeah I also think so. I want to do it too but it's so boring to do
this also I randomly got to invest 38 ingots in 1 run and it still didn't lock the shop
@@DrSilvergun Yeah thought so. I also want to invest ingots in the same way but it still takes so much time and is so fucking boring to do
Me with only two unlocked 😮
Leader squad: If you're leaking in the first palce. You're either fucking awful/Not ready for this. Either way this squad is just not good. Provides no real benefit (1 life point recov lmao.)
Gathering squad: This squad is significantly more late game oriented. Usually squad size increase are a pain in the ass to come by (deployment limit even more so). This kind of fix that problem. And also makes summoner much better i guess.
support squad: Extremely early game oriented. This squad provide little to absurd late game value depends on floor 1 shop. It's not inconsistent but it's ok i guess Just don't take the floor 3 benefit of Remove all ingot for a absolutely gamebreaking 1 uncommon artifact.
Spearhead squad: A squad that's actually fucking usable. This squad in IS3 is just fucking unusable because of the way the mechanic work in there. This squad provide your operator a 1.15x multiplier for attack and hp. Which is overall nice for everyone.
Tact squad: It's wierd. It's either the BEST squad OR the absolute WORST squad depend on which voucher you get.
Special training: it has a overall nice early game (3 shields) and a Powerful late game. Promoting for free is Really good to have. arround -33% hope cost for 1 ops is nothing to scoff at when most of your late game will have 0 hopes if you're going for expensive and strong operator.
First class: Ehh... No idea... It has strong early game though and okish late game.
Life prio squad: It's sorta cool in that even after 3 collapse effect is on. You'll still be getting runes instead of the game predicting the next collapse you'll get. So Ehhh... I guess...
Scientific thinking: F. No competition there. It's defenetly as worse as Spearhead squad in IS3 (This is saying something. Spearhead squad litterally kills your early game completely for a shit lategame with those bad roll you'll get later) he ONLY way to save this squad is to SOMEHOW get the relic that uncaps your anti-interference tools (a BOSS ARTIFACT Mind you) and NEVER use any anti inteference index
Eternal hunting squad: So it has no early game value. And only late game value. Cool i guess... But not strong nor weak
Until today I still can't devise a plan that doesn't require a 6-star Defender unit being deployed once you reach 3rd stage.
It's almost like 3rd stage dares you to not get a 6* defender so it can F your run lol.
meh, *4 Stars Defenders is enough for me lol
Dur-Nar is hella busted with those arts damage w
@@helmiboboy already tried that, works until that stage where you must face those red-hooded casters and invisible assassin from the last Yan event. Even Matterhorn + Nightingale won't hold. You still can win the battle, but the leaks won't make you survive the boss.
Bison is enough for me, granted I have him maxed so yeah.
Sometimes I pick Heavyrain, Firewhistle, or Shalem for variety choices though.
@@VectoRaith That one is easy (even in a emergency node) if you have Deep color tentacles and Roberta (the extra layer defense helps alot) to bait those red hooded assassin Yan
on d15 its still easy to completely steamroll the first 3 floors with almost nothing if you're not restricting what ops you use so scientific is very strong, just use a starting squad that can clear every floor 1 fight leakless like reed popukar orchid