Combined Action Is A Legit Monster And Looks REALLY Good For Season 22
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Combined Action is one of a kind. First Arc 120. First to have special perks. When range gets normailed in season 22 I believe 120s will find their way into loadouts. With the perks, the origin trait, and more, combined action looks to be really good going forward.
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I really wonder if another adagio 120 comes. *usually* they do, but there's a chance this is it for a while. Thoughts on it?
Maybe they'll Reprise Igneous Hammer with it. Thing would feel like The First Curse with how far away you could get that 2-tap. Super stable too since I.H. stats are monstrous
Try doing the arc mission from Ikora. I got 1 on each character doing this. You just have it complete the mission and you will get it.
@@shayzewright9005what mission is this?
@@sQuaTsiFieD At the beginning of this season Ikora had missions for getting arc, void, and solar exotics. These were the same missions bungie patched because people were abusing the exotic drops. When you completed the arc mission all the way through, she gave you the Combined Action. I did the mission once on each character and got 3 Combined Actions. I don't remember the name of the arc mission, but the void is called Into The Abyss, and solar is called Exalting The Flame. Hope this helps
@shayzewright9005 ok thanks, I thought it just gave exotic armor. Does each subclass have a gun tied to them?
Find it insane that world drops are a genuine contender for most rare/valuable potential in the game. Just because the rng on these things are that bad
This is the price we paid for crafted weapons.
@pneuma9272 hardly. World drops being this valuable has been a "staple" of d2 for awhile. Bungie knows it can't make any real stock for a season or expansion of GOOD weapons so we get one or two world drops that are somehow better than every earnable weapon barring raids. If anything crafted weapons helped relieve the insane pressure of garbage rolls but they flubbed it and made both crafted weapons AND insane rng the only way to get anything usable lmao
@@pneuma9272 Nah, because that's acting like it hasn't been like that before WQ. Seasonal activities and playlist weapons have nearly always had much higher drop rates than WP weapons
@@pneuma9272ast hope was the best pve primary in the game from the time it was released to sunset, it was also a world drop, and was only the best with one specific role. Pre nerf multikill + pre nerf feeding frenzy.
This thing was highly coveted and people would literally spend tens of thousands of legendary shards on rahool engrams to try to get one.
But yea, world drops are definitely only rare after crafting
Also, Banshee loves to sell this thing
Banshee sold this with Adagio several times with various perks in the 3rd column. This thing feels amazing with perks like Perfect Float helping reduce flinch in duels, though Zen Moment will probably make it feel that much better.
I bought and kept this roll from Banshee too, worth it!
Once there's one with Surplus, I am all in. Bottom Dollar shines really well with high stability, high handling. Love this weapon and hoping my dream roll comes out
Bottom Dollar can get surplus, but also one that people aren't talking about is the loud lullaby from the Moon. It can get surplus and kill clip or surplus and explosive payload
It's going to be even better next season
I felt the same way but honestly the field tested weapon perk puts in hella work, you keep yourself alive and the gun just shoots like a dream
Surplus, disruption break on the bottom dollar is top tier for team fights
@@ThePackman627been casually farming for surplus explosive payload since it’s been reissued but no luck, rng be rng
You can get a surplus kill clip loud lullaby
Honestly I’ve always really liked Adagio, pretty slept on perk imo. It’s probably my favorite pure damage perk as just conceptually it’s the most interesting. It’s got a bit of a trade off it’s not just reload and get more damage. The RPM change might throw you off and some might not like that, even if the extra damage usually more than makes up for the RPM drop.
Like it a lot on Autos for sure. Old Sterling, even Firefright has some good perk pairings. Always feels very satisfying as you’re continuously shooting and you get that kill and the shot sound and rpm changes and you just feel more powerful now as you know Adagio’s active~
Yes sir! I still have a Last Breath auto rifle with dynamic sway and adagio. I’ve always liked this roll and your right about it feeling powerful once adagio gets going. 👍
You can get one from doing the Dunemarchers Exotic "Quest" from Ikora.
I've managed to get a couple really good rolls with Adagio! Looking forward to trying out when the Range stats are changed!
a fair bit ago Banshee sold one of these with Hip Fire Grip Offhand Strike. That role is... something. It feels *very* weird to be hip firing a hand cannon at 45-50m out, but with that roll I'm hitting those shots fairly consistently *on controller*. Could be a monster in the hands of someone on M&K who can aim a bit more precisely
This is my favorite hand canon model. My favorite 140 is dire promise so I’m glad we got a 120 version of it!
Bring back Old Fashioned you cowards! lol
@@pippilpdlr I agree. Old Fashioned has been my favorite kinetic 140 for basically all of D2
Suprised that Coolguy didn't mention that HC's are getting a MASSIVE buff in mid season in PvE...is entirely possible this thing will be worth it if you want to use it. I'll be trying all my hand cannons again.
I can’t wait, my top 2 for most used exotic was last word.
Well, yes, but compared to other handcannons that are already better... They'll still be better than Combined Action, post-buff. So its place won't really move much.
@@Johnnjlee I fucking love Last Word.
Cause Sunshot is my boy, and it does anything better than this awful RNG world drop does lol.
Was it not pushed to next season
Something to note about the PvE side of things, I remember reading in an article, maybe a TWID, from a couple weeks ago, where Bungie was considering a change for hand cannons to be good burst damage for a primary weapon, although I can't remember the exact wording or where the quote was from, but either way there could be some potential on something like a Voltshot roll
I really enjoy these field forged weapons, the origin trait is really nice and unique and makes them feel really nice. Also I think the flexibility that hip fire grip gives you up close, paired with how hard it hits especially with adagio could be a play, that's my chase.
This gun is a great contender to be paired with Dragon's Shadow or Speedloader Slacks (If you still remember those exist)
The handling bump makes this feel like it's cosplaying as a 140 while still dropping 104's, it's a little silly
first
also with the normalized ranges I need to see how the high impact autos are going to work out
legit got a goated lodbrock and can't wait to see what happens
Target Lock even after its nerf will give it a real edge, pushing the rangiest autos out of their optimal range, past maybe even high impact pulses and 120s potentially. Definitely exciting.
@@osteohiveporosis6882excited for my perpetual/target lock lodbrok post-patch
You will get shit on by pulses that's what is gonna happen.
I've gotten really lucky and have almost gotten every potential God roll to try out. I definitely reccomend Perfect Float and Adagio. Stability masterwork. It's gold
Did you get a zen roll? And if you did, how does it compare? I’m curious about zen.
@savagecimmerian8442 I got a zen, timed payload that I haven't given time to yet because Adagio was so Crack to play with lol but I will give it a shot tonight and report back, if I remeber
@@ImNot5YearsOldany updates homie?
Banshee sold this thing with hipfire grip / offhand strike and me and my buddies did a wild west showdown hip fire only fight with it, so I'm kinda attached to it from just that lol
Great video!
Could you do a video about the range normalization you’re talking about? I know about the rangefinder changes but not anything else.
This ^
Has anyone got Zen Moment with Timed Payload? I'm wondering if the 2 perks work together in such a way that 1 shot instantly gives 4 Zen Moment stacks.
Some new legendary weapon models would be nice
i love volt shot on this gun for pve. yes its weak compared to the meta but its still fun to play with. and next season with the range and hand cannon changes i think this thing is going to be an absolute monster. and hopefully the voltshot extra damage will scale with the base damage buff. im excited and was happy i found one.
I haven't had an Adagio roll drop for me yet. However, of the one that did drop, I lucked out with kill clip, tunnel vision, rifled barrel, flared mag well, and a range masterwork. The double taps are nasty and precision hits are almost guaranteed.
Shoutout to perfect float/adagio roll for PVP. Eddy Current/Voltshot fell for me as well, but I haven’t given that one a spin.
Thank you for putting these videos together. It makes figuring out what god rolls to hunt for so much easier.
I have a roll with Hipfire Grip and Offhand Strike, and it's honestly super fun. Maybe not meta, but those hipfire three taps are so satisfying.
We call it the Big Iron on our hip.
Same. Love that cowboy playstyle combined with dmt
I've put about 650 kills on the gunsmith roll with Hipfire/Offhand while using Speedloader Slacks. Absolutely cracked gun when you can hipfire out to 40m+
Zen moment and kill clip is the way to go, 2 taps and no flinch
I love this thing when I picked it up from Banshee. I was always iffy on Kill Clip on 120s, but Adagio.. No need for reloads, it 2 taps right away and I don't mind the RPM change at all, since it's a 120 you're pacing your shots anyway.
Bungie cmon, where the FOUNDRY FOCUSING cmooooon.
I have been legit farming for this thing this season. Best way that I know off is to have cross play on. Download the game on a different system or client and don't purchase witchqueen on that account. Then just go between Quagmire and Florescent Canal looking for Lucent HFTs. Kill them and it is a guaranteed purple world drop. Hope this helps!
The roll I'm working with when it did drop was Full Bore-Accurized-Eddie-Adagio not to sure what all others are working with but I like the feel of this one it hits 82 range with 1 proc of Field Tested and feels just nice.
My RNG luck stay dropping this HC for me. The roll I settled on has small bore, accurized rounds, perfect float, and adagio with a handling MW. Played with it for one day in crucible and snagged almost 200 kills in the session I played with it. Its a monster like Cool Guy said and its so damn satisfying 2 tapping and seeing that 104 pop up for damage. Definitely earned its spot in my vault.
I finally picked one up from Banshee the other day, being world drop loot it has always slipped my mind, but man this thing feels good. It isn't a 'perfect' roll by any means with HF/SR/PF/KC and stability MW, but I have come to love this thing so much. Time to keep my eyes peeled for more Banshee drops and make sacrifices to even get it as a world drop.
Good call, i had no idea this gun existed I’ve probably dismantled a good one lol ill keep an eye out thanks!
4:03 NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [BIG SHOT]
I got one with zen moment, hammer forged, acquirized rounds, kill clip, and range masterwork. I got a very decent 120 that I can use before I get an ingenuous
I’ve got the tunnel vision/kill clip roll. KC isn’t my favorite perk but the gun feels good to shoot so I’m happy with it. I stopped playing for a few weeks so missed out on the Banshee Adagio roll.
I think you missed something, and its the roll I'm still chasing. zen moment + timed payload. only 120 to do it currently. the synergy here is valid, your shots double stack zen moment and field tested as there's two separate impacts. haven't had it drop yet so I can't speak to the efficacy, but this seems like a roll worth trying when it finally does drop
"You just play" "legit monster" yep this is a cg video
Yep, my only Adagio roll is a roll Banshee sold with Perfect Float, would rather No Distractions but it still cleans up house great.
Adagio is one of the most underrated perks in the game right now. I understand why some people don't like it--the RPM shift can be jarring to deal with. Additionally, Adagio doesn't shift the time-to-kill (or even make it worse) on certain archetypes
But there are certain weapon archetypes that greatly benefit from Adagio, especially with the range rework coming up.
Some examples include precision auto rifles. Adagio brings it down from 0.8 ttk to 0.64.
Same for aggressive sidearms like Empirical Evidence: 0.73 down to 0.53
In other words, don't sleep on Adagio for specific archetypes, especially for next season
Got it with zen moment, adagio, steady rounds, hammer forged, range mw. I never used it, maybe now I need to.
I love the video! My favorite parts were at minute mark 6:59, 7:18, and 7:40.
I like Perfect Float on something you're going to be using often. People seem to forget that it adds Stability, not just better AE. Even if you never take aerial shots, that bonus Stability is going to be helpful in combating flinch.
The best roll was at banshee. Too bad for people who missed out
I got one with hammer forged, accurized, perfect float, adagio, and a stability masterwork, can't remember if it was a banshee roll or not, but it's a lot of fun.
Dude this gun is my baby. I got perfect float+adagio from banshee and I’m closing in on 2K kills with it already lol
Forgot my exact roll, but mine has fluted, something, zen moment, time payload. One of my favourite 120s
An adagio roll is also super fun
Adagio doing 30% suprised me!! Well done weapons team
Literally any and every Hand Cannon is PvE viable thanks to Lucky Pants. Yes, there are MORE viable options, but if you are looking for something to experiment with and see if you like the FEEL of more, then Lucky Pants are there to do some heavy lifting for you. I use Round Robin on Strand with Lucky Pants and can put in a lot of work in a lot of different content. I am sure this can do the same or better on Arc.
I got an Adagio/Eddy Current CA. It's nice but it feels like shooting a Shotgun out of a Revolver. Also has Accurized Rounds and Full Bore for Range.
Its interesting that this is actually the first arc 120 _ever_
CoolGuy lists all the arc handcannons but leaves out the S tier handcannon. Waking Vigil. Waking vigil is so good, it started life as a 150, is now a 140, but might as well be a 120. That puppy hits so hard and fast your enemies will never know what hit them. In fact the kill feed just says “ooof” because there was nothing you could do against the might of the waking vigil. /s
Have a tunnel vision kill clip roll, I like it. For both
It's got my favorite hand cannon model like Dire Promise, which is a plus, but 120s always felt a bit slow to me.
I would love it if world drop weapons could be farmed from specific heroic public events or zones on all planets.
I actually have one with full bore/appended with no distractions/adagio which brings it to 70 range but 16 stability.. might have to mess with this, it looks super fun!
Has anyone else ever noticed @CoolGuyGames has that Tucker Carlson cadence to his narration?
If i remember correctly, TWAB said these things are gonna be able to reach someone to abouut 40m
120s are definitely gonna be wild
I'm kinda sad it wasn't talked about because I love the roll but hip fire grip/offhand strike with freehand grip has me hitting for perfect accuracy hipfire dealing full damage at 45 metres(on my roll)
"We have First Curse at home."
First Curse at home:
My second drop was smallbore, accurized, no distraction, adagio and range mw. Been holding onto just in case, might pull it out for a spin now
Don’t forget the hand cannon pve buff legendary hcs will totally be viable soon
Banshee dropped adagio tunnel vision roll 🙌
You are really missing out on the hip fire grip off-hand strike roll
Im not sure why but adagio doesnt feel like it slows the RoF of this weapon. It could be just a feel thing or it could have cap to where it can slow it fully. Also i was hoping someone would say something about this gun.
I've had like 2 drop lol I would really love a craftable handcannon with this dire promise model. Don't care about the RPM or burn, just want this model!
I got corkscrew Tac mag P. Float and Adagio on mine, with a Stab MW. It's amazing... but im bad on Handcannons.
In PVE, there are going to be some damage buffs to Hand cannons. Supposedly its going to be a 70% damage buff but who knows.
Mine dropped with voltshot and that perk that speeds up reload when amplified
Hand cannons actually feel decent in pve atm and are getting a buff soon, but its the 120 part that kills it for me in that area. The fire rate and reload are just painful for the current pace of the game. They need to be chunking majors and one shotting red bars to even be worth considering.
I have a zen moment, explosive roll i love. Masterwork is stab but i think i like it
Man they’ve gotta do something for these world drops. Some kind of focusing for just world loot. It’s so hard to get the one you want.
Ive been having fun with my offhand strike and hipfire gripe roll. I treat it like a legendary last word.
i have one with explosive payload and it's just a beast! for someone who vouch for EP on hand canons i just love this HC so much
It only rolls with Timed Payload, EP would be amazing though.
Am I the only one who sees his perk recommendations sometimes and goes "Shit, did I delete that roll?..."
Bro nothing gets CG heated like world loot. Louder for the Bungos in the back!
My big goal is adagio zen with arrowhead or corkscrew tac mag or accurized and either a handling mw or stability
I have a roll that 2 taps, it's pretty nice
I've grinded for a kill clip 120 since the moon 120 was reprised. Never got it. Got the pattern for neomuna's 120, never used it, then had this drop with tunnel vision / kill clip day 1 of the season. Still haven't used it, but I have it!
I got a KC roll recently as well but I prefer adagio as it doesn’t require any reloading to 2 tap.
Adagio goes really well with mantle of battle harmony in pve
Banshee’s Corkscrew/Accurized/PerfectFloat & Adagio has felt great in PvP. Voltshot in pve is interesting but ultimately unnecessary.
I said "Just like me!" out loud at the same time and it freaked me out 0:43
I got a few of these zen explosive. And zen adagio are great in pvp
I play a fair bit and this is still greyed out in my collections. Will have to keep an eye out at the Gunsmith.
I got one with hipfire grip and offhand strike. Fun to meme with
Got a 61 stability tv/kc with 18 handling.. And a 51 stability tv/adagio with 28 handling... Probably done looking but wishing for a handling exotic on Titan..
For PVE, hard to compete with Nation of Beasts as an arc hand cannon crafting enhanced Dragonfly + Voltshot…
Been chasing this adagio roll...missed the vendor drop one :(. Field tested as an amazing trait for pve. The passive buffs are amazing, (tho better on rapid fire weps)
Why did umbral engrams have to die just to be replaced with nothing for focusing world drops?
And hell gunsmith rep has been butchered so badly (not that it was good to begin with) that you're lucky if you get a single engram from Banshee a week.
I got lucky and got fluted, accurized, noe distractions and adagio with range masterwork.
There is no longer a way to farm for neomuna guns anymore so I can't craft a round robin. Guess imma pray for a decent Combined Action. Ha. Ha. :)
I enjoy my voltshot roll of it alot
Was the gunsmith Kill Clip/Tunnel Vision? That's what I have.
I got three different rolls, no distractions/KC, Tunnel Vision/KC and Eddy Current Volt Shot. But I struggle with the recoil pattern.
I heard you mention Battle Scar. Video coming soon?
I have one with zen moment and timed payload and let me tell you, it feels very sticky... feels good for a 120! I don't know about adagio because I don't have one but if I ever get one then I'm gonna try it and see how it feels...
Would you go arrowhead for 100 recoil 64 range 27 stability + master or corkscrew for more range 69 and stability 32 +master
I wish there was a way to actually force drops more effectively
Crimil’s dagger will have adagio
I feel like I’m in the minority with this gun. I really, really don’t like it.
Maybe I’m spoiled because I have a few well rolled Igneous’ and a (in my opinion) perfect Steady Hand so other 120s just don’t feel as good as them.
Also with Adagio specifically I’m not a big fan of my rate of fire changing, I had a similar issue with Desperado despite it being absolutely busted, it just throws off my rhythm.
So many cool weapons we can't craft. What a shame.
I got one with zen moment and adagio I haven’t tried it out yet but I’m going to now
Another weapon I didnt even know existed because of how bad tge world loot pool is