It isn’t any better in Canada or the US.Imo a lot more people should just get the death penalty and save us tax payers money with paying room and board for these POS’s
By u.k logic nobody is guilty of committing crimes, heck Elliot Rodger used terms like "bullied" "traumatize" "mental health issues" So his innocent too right ? A girl pushed him over in 8th grade and it ruined his life, by his own words... So his innocent and justified right ? Wow !
That's what woke feminism does to a society, mate. Nowadays they can decide to screw with all the men around and the latter would be the ones at fault. Be careful who you trust.
@@mebeb6399 I disagree. It is not the most common scenario to be murdered by someone you do not have any associations with. While it is scary that your life can end by the wrong encounter a complete stranger, this is not the only situation that I was referring to. In my comment I also meant that it is scary that people you may meet and become associated with - because you're at a particularly vulnerable point in your life where you are susceptible to manipulators or people with bad intentions etc. can change the course of your life for the worse.
I am so disgusted with these kinds of people, not only are they ruining lives BUT they also make it hard for actual survivors to come out and share their stories because the chances of getting believe are sooo low. I am so mad right now, this inhuman makes my blood boil.
It's just painful that people like her get to walk out almost as if she didn't do anything. She should be in an asylum. Pretty damn sure shes going to reoffend...and do something unimaginable due to her complex mental state but question is..will it be too late then? Who knows...it's scary that people with such fixation to hurt others get to walk around so easily..😬
This is why women who lie with intent to destroy people's lives must be held accountable. 20 years in prison with no parole or equivalent sentence if a man had committed the crime, If we don't stop this nonsense right now, this will signal to other people like her that they are allowed to do this. In fact, it's probably too late judging the number of NBA, NFL, Rappers and other celebrities that are being accused. Just look at the insane rise of women like her and Amber Heard, Christine Blasey Ford, "mattress girl" and thousands of women that are doing this daily that nobody hears about. This will make real victims suffer even more when they have to come out. It's terrible.
@Long John Thilver No it's not but it can be and it is something you have to live with for the rest of your life! People who survived abusive relationships and all that also get called survivors even if their life was never directly in sever danger. I hope you learn to be more empathetic and wish u a nice life, full of love and success
@Long John Thilver That's literally the term you're supposed to use... Someone 'Survives' a horrific thing like ^ape... It's pretty ridiculous that you're trying to act like she didn't say it EXACTLY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAID... And has Always been said. You Gormless soggy sandwich.
She really is. Just absolutely irredeemable. All she has ever done is lie and hurt others. Absolute psycho. I hope people follow her for life and make all of her employers aware of who she really is.
She really is a monster! As an American, I’m fascinated with England’s history. Of course we studied world history, but not in depth. I love Adrian’s videos, because he gives so much background information and so much compassion for the victims!! My favorite channel!
She may have had a mental illness, which caused all this. My daughter was bipolar and took her own life. I don't want to give her excuses but possible because who would do this to themselves
Her family backing up her claims initially made me think they didn't want to believe she did this. However, her mother was recently sued for refusing to return the donation money given to Eleanor, so I feel like they played a huge role in Eleanor turning out this way. What a vile woman. Sadly, she will likely do this again when she's released. She gives narcissist vibes and probably still thinks she's a victim despite ruining so many innocent lives.
How dare she? Not one shred of decency in the lot, it would seem. Everyone who donated to this disgusting farce, out of the goodness of their heart, should be refunded. I can't believe she was able to legally keep the donations. What a pig.
People like this after being released from jail, they quit their country and live somewhere else and transform to a different person of course living a lie life and perhaps her family will support her
They estimate that 1-4% of the populations are clinical psychopaths. Obviously, most of them are not murderers and fly under the radar. But as evidence here, you don’t have to murder to destroy people
What scares me more than Elanor herself is the irrational response from society. Specifically, the actions taken against these innocent men based on one FB post. Truly, humanity as a group could induce more fear than one individual ever could.
That's the reason why religious and political extremism are around. Humans are groomed to be overly emotional these days, so it's no wonder that mobs can form around psychopaths, politicians and psychopathic politicians.
Not only did she do serious psychological damage to these men, but she’s harming TRUE victims of these crimes that might be too scared to come forward out of fear of not being believed.
@@Dionysos- I was SAd as a 4 year at a Presbyterian Church preschool. I don’t know the person and the statute of limitations is way gone, but I am for supporting REAL victims and calling out those that are beyond a doubt lying about what happened.
@@Dionysos- are you looking for "condemn" instead of condone? condone = accept (behaviour that is considered morally wrong or offensive). eg: "the college cannot condone any behaviour that involves illicit drugs"
The damage she did is irreversible. Those men will have to watch their backs for the rest of their lives, because there’s always someone who thinks that there can’t be smoke without fire.
Hopefully she receives rehabilitation and counseling so at least trama can admit to her lies. There are clear signs of trama and send rehabilitation toward admittance of her lies is a good thing.
@@droughdough Oh fck off. I hope she actually receives everything she lied about. Women get away with this stuff too often for virtually no consequences. I'm sick of it.
@@droughdough oh shut the fuck up, she did a crime..why is it that whenever YT's do shit like this, it's everyones fault but their own. Trauma is no excuse for what she did.
Even if she has experienced trauma, what she did is disgusting. Not only did she ruin those men’s lives, but she’s also made it more difficult for actual victims to be taken seriously. She’s revolting, I hope the men involved are able to heal from what has happened to them.
There are so many severely traumatised people who don't do this to others so I don't feel sorry for some c-word still living in the comfortable part of the world who had a bad childhood but obviously enabling parents.
Disgusting women. So very narcissistic and evil beyond belief. Why didn't her prior history be brought to light. All of the lies of previous abuse, shame, shame,shame. Everyone needs to stay away from her.
I can't imagine the sheer panic of someone accusing you of horrific crimes like this. Accusations like that stain you, kind of like being accused of endangering children. The crime is so horrible that just the accusation would rapidly destroy your life before anyone could get to the truth. In fact, I'll bet there are still people who think of the men as guilty even after everything came to light.
I feel terrible for the young man she caused to spend 70 days in jail with real sex offenders. The poor boy would have been terrified and he had to spend his 19th behind bars. I hope he and the others accused can find peace and know we support them.
I wonder if the police actually investigate it or just arrested him off of her word, because a lot of REAL gRAPE victims are told without evidence that the accused can't be arrested. But that's here in the States, idk about in England.
@@christhomson8924, no, it is because she is a women. The African women that burned her ex Dutch and destroyed his body received almost the same sentence as her. If the color was the case this boy will never put in a jail while without any prove. Research for Berlinah Wallace case.
It’s pretty insane that someone would literally hurt themselves to the point of real bruises, red eye, and swollen cheeks all just to create lies to the public. 😱😱😱
False accusations need to have more severe consequences, both for the lives and reputations they destroy, and for the cloud of possible doubt they cast on legitimate ones.
I disagree they have a severe consequence on legitimate sexual assaults the level of investigation required should be high. We must see people innocent until people are found guilty the last few years that has been shifting for the worst and it does nothing good, it gives us the chance to become a MOB and become worse human beings it also hurts people greatly when some girl thinks now they've broken up she needs to punish the guy. For any damage it makes to girls wanting to come forward, i think that is a lie from a lot of girls who want to make up lies who don't have enough evidence and just say that, the few who don't come forward there are normally more issues than just bad PR. And instead of mobbing suspects we should be putting our effort into helping girls come forward asap while evidence is clear.
Victims should absolutely be able to sue civilly when someone knowingly makes false accusations. It's one thing to go to jail, but that doesnt replace the victims lost livelihoods... they are absolutely due financial reparations
@@suonatar1 there's no way that'll ever happen, but at least proper jail time is required even for pretty young girls. What courts and older soft judges who would like to think those girls might do them, is that these people just realize they can get away with a certain amount of stuff and scale back their nastiness.
As a survivor of a sexual assault myself It makes me so angry when people lie about it. It really does seem to make people wonder if it really happened to me.
I have the same feelings, it's hard enough to disclose sexual abuse for fear of being believed and then things like this happen 😓 wishing you all the strength with your healing 🙏
I actually teared up watching this. Those poor men and their families. She's toxic and poisonous to any man who has the unfortunate happenstance to meet her.
Think about the harm caused by men to women in the past. Those tens or thousands of women in the past who suffered at the hands of men? Where is your sympathy for those women? Your misogyny is out in the open for all to see.
@@paulinejackson5861 if a lady harms, she is shown given a lessened punishment, if a man comes up to harmin, he's most likely gonna get jailed think about what you say before what you shout about
I am a survivor, not a victim, and hearing stories like this make me so angry! Even though he stabbed me, beat me, choked me telling me to die, I was still asked if I flirted, what did I have on while walking home.. I still wonder, if I wasn't on deaths door, would I have even been believed? It's because disgusting females like this WE SUFFER MORE THAN ONCE!!
@@Swnsasy Stfu and quit capping. Literally nobody who has been put through the trauma talks about it. ESPECIALLY to this degree. You crave attention and need help, that's literally it.
she will pay when the cold embrace of death takes her in her final moments she will be alone, with no one to hold her hand and tell her they love her. this is a small thing but to me enough. if there is an after life maybe she will redeem herself, but for the remainder of this life, there can be no redemtion.
@@xKevmachinex How nice. She'll die alone. Meanwhile, she can live her entire life free from consequence or care about what she's done. Wah wah. Fucking disgusting that you think that empty platitude is a substitute for actual consequences.
Your presentation and wording is amazing when describing the chain of events . Sad stories but need to be told for the betterment of humanity and justice. Good job man
These men had rock solid alibis and she still destroyed their lives. Imagine what happens with a spiteful ex. I've met countless men who had accusations against them, and even when it gets thrown straight out because of obvious lies, it can take 6-12 months and in that time they've lost their jobs, their houses, and their kids. And several times their lives. We live in a horrible world.
And worst part is that those false accusations will stay with them for next years or even till end of their lives because some people will not believe that they are innocent and did nothing and for some they still will be dangerous and should be in jail or even worse.
The statistics of false accusations is literally so low, without a doubt, some of those dudes are actually guilty. Even when women go forward with something that actually happened it hardly makes it to court, no one is jailed. Women loose there jobs and friends for saying they were raped but yeah being accused is the worst
I heard about this story and it is truly appalling. Trial by publicity is also equally disgusting. The people who harassed these men are nearly as terrible.
@@steppin-razor doesn’t matter. It’s why trial by mob was supposed to be a lesson we learned from the Roman Empire. This isn’t knew and anyone who falls for that shit is scum.
Don't get me wrong, but i rather live in a world where believe isn't needed. The given story is an important example of why mob mentality can easily get people hurt. I rather see these things get resolved through proper means. And, when that's not possible, separate the parties involved without punishment towards either. I've seen a close friend being ruined by false allegation and I've seen someone who was abused get ruined just the same. I don't want to be responsible for either
She took the story "the boy who cried wolf" to another level. I think the sentence is too short for the number of lives she destroyed and forever scarred due to her lies.
"the one who cried assault", that's what I was thinking.. Then because she "cried assault" so many times and went to such lengths, IF she had actually been a victim it would have more than likely fallen on deaf ears. Almost seemed as thought she wanted it to happen. Maybe instead of having the "S-nature" of committing the act, hers was a "S-nature" of wanting to be acted on. Doe that make sense?
Thank you Adrian! You deserve a coffee and Nero deserves a belly rub I’m sure after working like mad to bring us this case. Relax while we enjoy 💖 Have a great week everyone! ☀️
13:40 I've always heard people say, "they committed suicide so that proves they were guilty". And I've never agreed... Could you imagine being accused of something so horrible and the people you thought were friends don't believe you. Complete strangers throwing hate at you as you try to go about your life. Even if you're cleared of accusations, most people have already decided their own verdict in their own head. The psychological damage would be insane...
I actually lost my brother this way, he left behind an explanation of what he was being accused of and he couldn’t handle the mental turmoil it caused him. Just terrible!!!
I've been falsely accused of sexual assault of children. It nearly drove me to suicide, ESPECIALLY the constant harassment and destruction of property I was subjected to, which was utterly ignored by the police when I tried to file reports with them. This lasted several years, despite no charges ever being filed against me, a fact that for the "pedo hunters" "proves" that you're guilty and the police are protecting you. So yes, I can fully imagine it.
@@OlWhtWmn"out", "out", "out", "out", "walk", "walk", "walk", "walk", "treat", "treat", "treat", "treat" [10 minute break to lick own genitals] "out", "out", etc. etc. on repeat all day
rapists and abusers generally get less than 8 years lol, if they even go away at all. that being said anyone who's this insane needs to be locked up in an institution
@@richydoumbe0 it can be - apparently the Rochdale grooming gang got 77 years total between 9 of them. So her sentence probably is quite hefty for the UK.
Consider this though. If the rare false accusations cause people to not believe other people's statistically very likely to be real accusations, then the problem is that victims are not believed in general. When someone from an oppressed group does something bad and this results in hate crimes, then those people were just looking for an excuse to be awful.
@@Shilanga-w2k Imagine if you were brutally raped and you went to the police and due to insufficient evidence you never got to see justice. The rapist walks free with no consequences to rape others .That happens literally every day. False accusations are incredibly rare this is backed up with data - but rapists walking free is very common.
I heard a story not too long ago.. A girl was hanging out with the "popular" girls group in college when they started talking about being SA'D.. To not feel "left out" She said she was and named the first guy she could think of... They spread this all over this prestigious college and he lost his scholarship, his friends, his everything... When it came out the day that she said it happened was impossible because he was at home, his father's home, with his best friend and the father was filming them gaming and being silly... The college cleared him but people still believed it anyway... He took his life because he couldn't take it and people CHEERED that he was dead... 6yrs later the girl reached out to his best friend to apologize for the LIE she told to just "fit in"..... I am a survivor, not a victim, and hearing stories like this make me so angry! Even though he stabbed me, beat me, choked me telling me to die, I was still asked if I flirted, what did I have on while walking home.. I still wonder, if I wasn't on deaths door, would I have even been believed? It's because disgusting females like this WE SUFFER MORE THAN ONCE!!
Seeing as false allegations of rape don't happen more often than false allegations of any other crime, I seriously doubt that individuals like this monster are the cause.
I’m so glad you shared your story as I was not brave enough to do so publicly. It’s so scary that ill women like this are tarnishing the word of actual victims. I really hope you’re doing better, you deserve the world ♥️
ur narrative is extremely obvious. whilst i wouldnt deny your claims, women arent ruining the spotlight for other victims. its men who choose not to believe most women. thats not the fault of other women who may have "lied" (i take that with a pinch of salt considering the legal justice system and the psychological effects of being SAd - which can cause you to forget entirely) , its the fault of our patriarchal society that will do anything but believe women. the over emphasis on "false rape claims" which are in reality extremely rare- shift the narrative to the victims rather than the perpetrators- who are mostly men.
@@iamerminserbia2283 a classic feminists that hates men spotted , you know you came out of your dad ball's ? In the end of the day say what you wish and try to make men look like the evil antagonist in the story however you want but it won't take away your extra chromosome neither will it take away the reality of the fact that there are evil woman as much as men . Women like the one in the video are only damaging real victims of SA and innocent individuals plus it is quite the opposite from your claim as many times it doesn't take proof or evidence to destroy a man's reputation and life completely but just the accusation of SA is enough to do damage especially if such cases gets traction as this video has showcased , try to live outside your own bubble and traumas , women treat fellow females worst then you can imagine for the most shallow and tiny reasons .
Why would you do this to someone? It's one thing to harm yourself and another one to harm others. I was a compulsive liar all throughout high school because I was sad and lonely, have ptsd, and I was diagnosed with depression but successfully recovered this year. I never wanted to harm anyone else with false accusations, there are no excuses to ruin someone's life.
Thank you for this story, People need to understand that false claims are devastating to all concerned. Real victims loose credibility and those wrongly accused loose their good names - which have forever lasting effects.
It happens all too often sadly. The UK legal system has no protection for those being blamed and automatically people are assumed guilty. Think of the Ulster rugby players lived who were ruined under similar circumstances.
I actually haven't heard of this story, and that's so sad. That poor family that lost their ice cream shop, and those poor people that were affected by her.
I thought hate crimes existed ? Hate speech ? Discrimination ? Islamophobia ? Nah, she's a woman so those laws don't exist ? I already said feminism was cancer ..
I’m so angry at her for tarnishing the word of other victimised women - she’s adding to the small percentage of liars that people use to discredit others. Horrible that these men went through this also, this whole situation is just horrid.
Exactly. The victims of grooming gangs in this country have been through so much and weren't believed and were silenced by police and politicians because they were too scared of being called the R word. And that's another thing that gets me. When she falsely accused men with names like Jordan and Cameron, she got away with it. It took for her to falsely accuse a man called Mohammed for her to face consequences.
I I appreciate that you don't sensationalize the stories and just give a brief. My heart breaks for the men and their families. It is shocking that someone could be so cold and not care about the people her lies would totally destroy. Sadly, I don't see her changing after her sentence unless she gets the help she needs. It doesn't sound like her family will push for her mental care.
well if those victims didn't immediately go to twitter or social media instead of the police then yeah I wouldn't believe them either because thats a dumb ass move and VERY suspicious.
Not really. False accusations are so rare and come from a rare personality type, ppl who compulsively lie and need attention. The reason ppl don’t believe victims, usually female victims, is because of misogyny. They might point to ppl like her to shield the real reason, but that’s why.
My sister tried to do something similar to me. I got diagnosed with PTSD shortly after. I am working to get a protective order against her currently. She has an abusive track record. I’m very happy you are covering this case, it’s important to realize there are always two sides to every story! ❤
Another crappy part of this sort of phenomenon is that the media goes to great lengths to spread claims of the crimes, yet does little to rectify the situation by spreading the vindicating evidence.
Yes!! What the media does is criminal! They take no responsibility in their part of propagating lies and ruining people's lives - all so they can make more money.
Just like that Jussie Smollett guy in Chicago. Everyone was happy to cry about it at first and put blame but no one apologised when they realised it was all fake.
Our Home Secretary is doing the same thing right now- lying about that statistics on grooming to suggest a specific minority group is more likely to offend than others, when they aren't. She should check out how many of her MP colleagues have been convicted of sex offences before attacking other groups. The problems go right to the top.
*SHAME!* on *all* of the people that took it upon themselves to exact "vigilante" justice on those men, that even turned out to be the *"true victims."*
This girl is evil. She took advantage of the fact previous grooming gangs targeted young while girls. 1,200 girls in Rotherham alone were sexed trafficked by these gangs. So people were incensed by this because the police knew about the gangs but turned a blind eye because they didn’t want to be seen as institutionally racist. Look it up for yourself. The police were reprimanded for allowing it to happen. So if the police weren’t prepared to stop these gangs then it falls on the public to do so. Unfortunately for this man he was wrongfully accused and targeted. She deserves way more than 4/8 years in prison!
Someone who can self inflict injuries like that is not sane , all of her behaviors are scary . She needed more than just prison time . She needs actual help so she won’t do this again or something worse .
Reading the comments, I feel like that's the part lots of people are missing. Like you really have to be in a messed up head space to beat yourself up with a hammer ffs. If America has taught us anything, it has taught us that just locking away people doesn't fix anything. You need to actually help people so they don't get worse. Pretty sure if Eleanor doesn't get some kind of psychiatric help, she will not be magically 'better' and 'learn her lesson', no matter how long she is in prison.
Exactly. We had a case where a guy murdered his family and then pretended it was an intruder and to explain why he was the only survivor, he had inflicted injuries on himself with a knife as proof of a "struggle" with the "intruder." However, the self-inflicted injuries were so half-hearted, the the doctor immediately made a note that the injuuries were self-inflicted. It is really very difficult to injure yourself on purpose, however strong the motivation might be, like avoiding a murder charge. Also, how can someone be so totally screwed up and her family never noticed?
Im so glad someone is covering these types of casses as i know personally a few men that have had their loves ruined because a women decided to spread lies about them. Even 1 of these guys being prevented from seeing his own child
Absolutely crazy to me that she was able to get away with SO MANY false accusations against SO MANY different men, and never face any sort of real punishment until the very end, and her sentence was still light
Trust me, one thing I can guarentee you good for her that this was in the UK, false accusations in the balkans will earn her a severe beating from the same people she accuses
@@MadCatLady28 I understand that, but the fact that Adrian knew about all of those different instances means they were documented in some way. The police must have taken reports and figured out she was lying, multiple times
@@trash_bender420 I agree. But sometimes these patterns that are glaringly obvious in retrospect aren't clear until the whole thing is put together. 99% of the time, an unsuccessful rape accusation is down to insufficient evidence, or mistaken identity, not malice. The majority of provably false rape claims made to police don't identify a specific attacker. Most people who make false rape claims about a specific individual do it via the rumour mill instead. What REALLY annoys me about the whole thing is the vigilantes will likely never be charged with anything who couldn't just let the cops do their job and decided to intervene on her say so. Yes, she lied. But she's not responsible for those people who appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner.
One of my coworkers even donated to the cause and when this all came out, she was devastated. People like Eleanor are a danger to others, its heartbreaking what these poor men went through. She's clearly one of those who love to lie to get attention.
@@jeangrey5952 you’re making a generalization that’s just not fair, saying you can’t believe every single women because some of them lie about being abused is just stupid.
@@astwcsi U can’t just take their word and pics, u can believe someone when u have solid proof. I’ve seen too many men lose their freedom over a woman’s lies.
Talk about crying wolf. This case made me SO mad! The damage she caused others is insane and disgusting. Such a lenient punishment actually makes me even more angry
Agreed! Furthermore I think her family’s choice to still see her as a victim is as bonkers as her initial behaviour…? They are encouraging and facilitating her lies and delusions… they say apples don’t fall far from the tree…? I have every sympathy for someone suffering from mental illnesses… but in my opinion this goes WAY BEYOND that!….. I hope her victim’s manage to find peace…. They are all innocent ❤….
Why do you blame her? Telling lies is objectively less damaging than actual murder. Nobody lost their lives. The damage was caused by others, all she did was say something that wasn't true. The other people did not hVe to believe her. We need to support her and women. We need to keep believing.
as someone actaully suffering from complex ptsd, i am enraged at whoever writes off this narcisstic monster's behavior as stemming from any kind of ptsd
love the variety of content! stories like this add such a nice variety. plus your compassionate retelling and breakdown lend perfectly to all variety of true crime! Thank you so much for your continued amazing content. You're truly the best!
Thank you so much vespertine, I really appreciate that! I definitely had to cover this one. The crowd were so quick to throw these men under the bus, but no one stuck around to help get them back on their feet... Infuriating story. I'm glad you found this story interesting!
My husband’s ex was a psycho. She has a long history of making up lies about men caught in her web just for the attention. Time eventually exposes truth and patterns of behavior. When more than one guy changes his locks or flees the state, it’s made clear who is the actual perpetrator.
I can 100% relate as someone who has been falsely accused of something so heinous and years later I still have not been vindicated. People like this deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I’m not sure what you were falsely accused of but I’m sorry it happened to you ❤
Thank you for creating an awareness about this. I really hope these poor men will heal. Ten years ago, my brother wanted to divorce his wife. She is a master manipulator and convinced my niece, at the age of 12 to say that my brother molested her. It didn't make it to court and she got her way. We all sided with her because she's a woman. For years we didn't talk to our brother like before until my niece turned 16 and convinced us to. She said that at 16, she confronted her mom about it, and she told her that the reason she asked her to lie was because she thought a divorce would have been too traumatic for her and leave childhood scars. Now, make that make sense please. And yes, we did confront him but she made my niece look sad by telling her that daddy wants to break the family apart. He also appeared nervous which makes sense due to embarassment and shock, but it didn't compute at the time. She also showed texts that she sent from his phone to my niece while he was sleeping. Sorry for the long paragraph but some readers here think we simply stopped talking to him without fabricated evidence provided by a master manipulator.
Tbh you and your family sound like pieces of shit knowing she's a master manipulater and just believing her "cause she's a woman". You abandoned your brother in his hardest moment in life. Hope he stays away from you guys.
I feel like this is something that could be made into a 4 hour documentary. We need to hear from the victims, and get their story out there so they can feel at least some semblance of justice and closure. The lesson in all of this is: don't believe everything people post on social media, even if it's trending. Think for yourself damn it!!
@@jamielee7404 fyi when it comes to sa cases and rape or dv cases cops dont take it seriously and the victims are dragged threw the mud so badly even the victim themselves blame themselves by the end of it. So no cops never do the job. What happens around my area is they get an equal punishment or worse. If they raped someone they are either murdered in the most gruesome sexual way or they have their d*ck sucked raw by a calf. If they hurt a child, well they never live but it usually last atleast 4 days and is worse than hell. And of course innocent men are not hurt in any way. Cops are corrupt aholes who only care about their corrupt business. They dont care about citizens.
Social media is really dangerous imo. This story somehow reminded me of the uncle and nephew in Mexico that were falsy accused of being child abducters. The word spread with social media and an angry mob killed them. They were innocent. That was an extreme case but it goes to show how people get influenced by social media. Very good video, important subject. I sometimes wish there was no social media at all..it could literally destroy your life.
I live in Mexico and you speak the truth.... mere words, no matter how false, get people killed and lives ruined, as it was in this case. Some fool above just wrote that if you are innocent you have nothing to fear and that is not the case. Innocent men are accused of awful things all the time and end up paying for crimes they did not commit.
I’m so sorry for you and your family. I had an experience of false accusations being said about my Daddy who spiteful women accused of abusing me, as I got older I asked questions and luckily put this right but it’s made me very cautious of mostly women and their shade of spite that can be triggered by all sorts of things but mostly it’s when they feel badly done too, by a man or men and so they want to cause pain and damage to them or him and that can cause problems to more innocent parties close to them. So you can’t punish someone without creating a problem for innocents too. We all need to choose to act with love no matter what the choice of others, change starts with us. Myself and you and others. Let’s choose to act with love and see if we can spread a love remedy as it’s so important and not spread dis - ease of hate and spite and revenge and if you and I can do it, it’ll give us faith that it’s possible xx I hope your alright and I hope your family are now in a place where they feel only love 😊
Of course they want to keep the donation money! Plus why admit they raised a monster. Surely she had some sexual trauma committed by a family member or friend when she was very young.
@@susanl8478 I’ve just read about the killer of Olivia Pratt Korbel denying his guilt and his family in court braying their support and saying he’s been stitched up. Yeah, right!
I think the family know summits happened to her obv on their watch as they've brought her up so they are probably happy to think someone else is taking the blame for the drinking ect any distraction will do for guilty parties as long as the finger of blame isn't pointed at them it's fine and they stand by the false allegations it paints a nice picture to outsiders
@@hughneutron5303 More like woman is the criminal. For example, they don't report black on black crime, not because black are the victims, but because black are the criminals and people should continue to vote for the left, no matter the casualty.
This is relatively well known, although brief at least it was covered in media, I do believe the gender of the victims contributes to the lack of popularity.
As a victim who suffered years of sexual assault, was gaslit by family members. This woman absolutely infuriates/disgust me. Her actions are unforgivable and her sentence was far too lenient for the damage she caused.😤
I thought the pictures might have been fotoshopped. But she actually inflicted them to herself!!!! How insane! And, yes. I'd like to see more of this kind of stories. As always, great content. 😸 And.... I also talk to my cat. 😉
I was also waiting to be said ...she photoshoped her photos. Couldn't believe she did this to her self. I think I watched a movie few years back don't remember it's name there was a Woman who used to scar her body then claims to the cop's it's her husband
This is a great cover by Coffeehouse Crime. It just shows that we as humans rather believe guilty until proven innocent than innocent until proven guilty. As well as the people who harrassed and sent death threats to the innocent never apologized for their behavior. A sad but real truth. Keep up the great work with the videos!
This story is so important to tell. Thank you so much. we, as a society have to really try to curb “knee jerk reactions” and remember innocent till proven guilty. As a person who has been falsely accused,I know how much faster a lie travels, and how slow slowly the truth is accepted after a lie has been believed. No one likes to feel foolish. Being accused made me feel dirty, worthless and afraid. I think I will always be guarded now. Anyway… I pick up things with my feet too, and talk to my cat 😉
She’s from my town and went to my school. My best friend’s boyfriend almost had a relationship with her, glad he didn’t he could have been put in the same position as some of these men.
I hope the innocent men involved realise that living successful, happy lives is the best revenge and way to find peace. As a survivor who was practically ignored by police when I reported my offenders, this story makes me seethe with anger. I hope Eleanor’s fellow prisoners teach her a lesson or two.
Yes... my thought is a co-existing issue (maybe personality disorder, or just compulsive liar as he stated) besides/due to the "c-ptsd" diagnosed by the one psychiatrist. Most people with mental illnesses do not fabricate entire stories maliciously, but she may have a different subset of a more uncommon disorder. Or maybe she is just a bad person... and we're just looking for reasons why, cause we're human
Thank you, thank you, thank you for spreading the message of slowing down and thinking about the things we read and watch. Reacting emotionally to distressing content doesn't help anyone; we need to stop, breath, and focus on a course of action to make things better instead of just angrily reacting all the time.
Thank you for sharing this. Stories like this make me SO angry. As a survivor of SA when I was 10 years old,I live with the PTSD, anxiety, borderline personality disorder and binge eating disorder that this trauma gave me, Yet people like Ellie make up these stories and can destroy lives of innocent people, and like you said, make real survivors not want to come forward because people will think they are faking it. If she was SA when she was younger, then im sorry for her. Her mind obviously could not cope and into adult hood, this is what happened because of that but 8 years is not enough for the trauma she has caused for others and it certainly is not an excuse for it eiher. I have the above 4 mental disorders however I have not made up accusations. That is a whole new level of sociopathic disorder and she needs to be sectioned when released from prison as she will just do this again when she is released.
@Long John Thilver you dont understand what survivor means. You think of literally physically living through something. Usually, it means more mentally living through something. You physically aren't dead, but your mind is so jacked up that you really aren't living. The word survivor is undèstood by all who are. They totally understand. It's good to know you aren't a survivor. Really, it makes me happy. It means you've never been through something that broke you.
@Aimiee D Sweetheart, you bared your soul to reach out and explain what you went through to help another human being only to be shot down by a 'person' who was so bitter about their own life that they felt the need to call you out as a liar. That 'person' has deep issues that need to be dealt with in order for them to move forward in life. You, on the other hand, are healing, maybe slowly, but you are. Sending so much love and lots of hugs to you. I pray your journey will be peaceful and beautiful from now on because you deserve that.
That is absolutely devastating to hear. Not only to think of how destroyed the lives of these men will be moving forward and the work it'll take to put it back together, but simply how far gone she is to inflict that much damage to herself just to keep up her lies. I hope she gets the help she clearly needs, but I'm glad she went to jail.
I knew someone who was falsely accused of rape and spent 9 months on remand but when it came to the trial the accuser made it all up . And she walked free it totally destroyed the man's life even now to this day .
Same. Someone I knew told a woman he was seeing that he thought it was best they break up.. she wooed him back for breakup sex, then IMMEDIATELY went the cops and cried 'rape', had a kit taken and everything. Like, she had it planned and she made sure that all her text messages during that day could be construed as someone who wasn't eager in hindsight. He did time, before her best friend came fwd saying how she'd confessed to her that she made the whole thing up cos she knew everyone would believe her. It took ages after that for him to be released and she NEVER saw any consequences for any of it.
Worst thing is her sister believes her! She even gave interview saying my sis isn’t lying and that there’s corrupt ppl in the force that made Eleanor guilty
Police(especially with daughters) act exactly the opposite,u hurt a young girl and they will get a personal grudge and hunt u down and arrest you roughly
this feels so so similar to Sherri Papini's story... I've known other people who fake trauma or who lie constantly with no real reason to. I'm fascinated by it, whether it's caused by repressed trauma, a need to be seen, or visions of grandeur. It's almost as if she's suffering from Factitious Disorder but instead of illness, she uses trauma, assault and other forms of self-endangerment. It's really sad she won't admit that these are fabrications, and that she won't seek help. Those poor people she's destroyed deserve honesty. They deserve much more than they get.
The fact that this happens so often is truly heartbreaking. And most of the time when the accusations are proven to be false there's no aid for the true victims and the accusers get to walk free with no consequence. There needs to be a better support system in place for cases like this
@@simonw1313 in the last 20 years up to between 2 and 10% of sexual assault accusations were proven to be falsified. However this doesn't take in to account the number of cases that could not prove whether an assault occurred or not for a range of reasons, so sadly the exact percentage will never be known. And 'only 3%' is still far too many. For example between March 2021 and 2022 there were 193,566 reported sexual assaults in England and Wales. So taking your 3% estimate for example still means that on average 5,806 people were proven to have been wrongly accused in one year alone.
no matter what stories you cover, i like the relaxing way you talk, the way you present the stories, your coffeebar background, the window where you see the evening night, and the mood of the cafe, so please never change that , it's so nice and cozy! ☕️❤️
Wow this case is very shocking! Thank you for covering it. I’d be interested in watching other videos of a similar nature. Thank you again for your empathy, care and great research as always
Hey. Just to let you know that I found your channel only last year and I found it to be one of the best channels I've ever watched. I consistently watched your videos and love the dedication, quality and the overall work you put in. Superb job and cannot wait to see more of your work in the future! Have this on me! Get yourself more coffee (and one for me, even though I don't drink coffee. Lol). Have a nice day and stay safe! ;-D
Damn, thank you so much!!! Looks like I am going to be VERY adequately caffeinated tomorrow! haha. I've got lots of awesome things in the works, should have an announcement on that coming in a couple weeks. And thank you for sticking around so long! You're part of the #CoffeehouseVeteran squad!
@@CoffeehouseCrime Nah, man. You've provided the whole Coffeehouse Crime Club with some legitimate brilliant content. I am sure that the future is bright with yourself. Keep up the amazing work. Big up from here in Yorkshire! 😀
I'm from Preston and i remember this. The amount of racism against south Asians and islamaphobia this caused is unbelievable. And the fact that i saw this in the newpapers yet I didnt see the fact that it was all a lie is crazy! I wouldn't have known it was a lie had i not watched this today.
False allegations that can be proven false should be punished w the same punishments the men would have had to endure should he have been found guilty. Including registry as an offender.
You do make me smile, " There is only one problem with Eleanor's story, it was utter bullshit" People like her disgust me. Anyone like her, making up disgusting lies and ruining people's lives should get the same punishment that her victims would have gotten if they had actually carried out what they had been accused of!! This has made my blood boil and made me feel so sad for her victims.
I agree.... also.... 8 counts on averting the course of justice is all she was accused of? her crimes are greater. ruining lives and businesses of innocent people!
Absolutely. The punishment for a fabricated false accusation should equal (or exceed) the sentence that the crime - had it been true - would have carried. There should also be a compensation award from her current and future earnings until restitution is paid to replace what the victims of her lies lost. This makes things much harder for genuine victims too.
@@jeangrey5952 I agree - but also think that also goes for anyone who intentionally, maliciously and falsely accuses someone of a crime they know the person theyre accusing didn't commit.
I remember when my mom told me, "The world isn't like school. In school people will tell lies, do stupid things, and hurt others to be popular." The world has unfortunately become the school she warned me about.
@midwestyle Thank you for your comment. Excellent point, great tip from Mom bc it was true years ago, & I'm sure she agrees with your perspective now. I'll always remember this comment! Thanks, again, from Staten Island, NY. 🇺🇸
Glad you're bringing up a case like this. It happens all the time, people make their judgement before police have even started investigating. And it's easier now with social media, for people like her to spread their lies and ruin other people's lives.
She should get way more time than that! These innocent men’s lives will forever be changed because of her lies! I’m a mother of sons. And this is disgusting and should have very hard sentencing terms.
Letting her out after just 4 years when she hasn't even accepted responsibility and given an apology is an enormous injustice
That's the justice system in the UK for you.
It isn’t any better in Canada or the US.Imo a lot more people should just get the death penalty and save us tax payers money with paying room and board for these POS’s
They should keep an eye on her, but they won’t and she will live to hurt more people.
@@todds79jag unfortunately I think it costs tax payers much more money to sentence someone to death… with all the appeals, lawyers etc…
By u.k logic nobody is guilty of committing crimes, heck Elliot Rodger used terms like "bullied" "traumatize" "mental health issues"
So his innocent too right ? A girl pushed him over in 8th grade and it ruined his life, by his own words...
So his innocent and justified right ?
Wow !
This is legit scary how a total stranger can destroy your life just because you had one interaction with them!
for real, your life can change for the worse by just one wrong chance encounter ...
That's what woke feminism does to a society, mate. Nowadays they can decide to screw with all the men around and the latter would be the ones at fault. Be careful who you trust.
isnt that life ? most people are unalived by those they do not know
@@mebeb6399 I disagree. It is not the most common scenario to be murdered by someone you do not have any associations with. While it is scary that your life can end by the wrong encounter a complete stranger, this is not the only situation that I was referring to. In my comment I also meant that it is scary that people you may meet and become associated with - because you're at a particularly vulnerable point in your life where you are susceptible to manipulators or people with bad intentions etc. can change the course of your life for the worse.
@@mebeb6399 In many cases, sadly, people are often harmed by those, who they do know or are even close with.
I am so disgusted with these kinds of people, not only are they ruining lives BUT they also make it hard for actual survivors to come out and share their stories because the chances of getting believe are sooo low. I am so mad right now, this inhuman makes my blood boil.
It's just painful that people like her get to walk out almost as if she didn't do anything. She should be in an asylum.
Pretty damn sure shes going to reoffend...and do something unimaginable due to her complex mental state but question is..will it be too late then? Who knows...it's scary that people with such fixation to hurt others get to walk around so easily..😬
This is why women who lie with intent to destroy people's lives must be held accountable. 20 years in prison with no parole or equivalent sentence if a man had committed the crime, If we don't stop this nonsense right now, this will signal to other people like her that they are allowed to do this. In fact, it's probably too late judging the number of NBA, NFL, Rappers and other celebrities that are being accused.
Just look at the insane rise of women like her and Amber Heard, Christine Blasey Ford, "mattress girl" and thousands of women that are doing this daily that nobody hears about.
This will make real victims suffer even more when they have to come out. It's terrible.
@Long John Thilver No it's not but it can be and it is something you have to live with for the rest of your life! People who survived abusive relationships and all that also get called survivors even if their life was never directly in sever danger. I hope you learn to be more empathetic and wish u a nice life, full of love and success
@Long John Thilver Scumbag.
@Long John Thilver That's literally the term you're supposed to use... Someone 'Survives' a horrific thing like ^ape... It's pretty ridiculous that you're trying to act like she didn't say it EXACTLY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAID... And has Always been said. You Gormless soggy sandwich.
False accusations should hold the same repercussions that the accused would face period.
So, 3 months in jail.
8 years and 6 months seems way too lenient for the amount of pain this evil woman brought to these innocent men.
Definitely, far too short!
This kind of stuff happens far more often than you’d think. That’s why the whole MeToo movement “believe all women” thing is so dangerous.
She’s a blond white woman who accused men of wrongdoing.
You seriously think she would get a fair punishment? Lol😂
WAY TOO SHORT!!
@@torachan23 Well, it's much more rare in her community.
She’s a monster. I hope her victims find healing and recovery from the trauma she inflicted on them.
She really is. Just absolutely irredeemable. All she has ever done is lie and hurt others. Absolute psycho.
I hope people follow her for life and make all of her employers aware of who she really is.
Its right, if you believe that its not organised crime which can't be ruled out. Have you seen the Pizza gate?
She really is a monster! As an American, I’m fascinated with England’s history. Of course we studied world history, but not in depth. I love Adrian’s videos, because he gives so much background information and so much compassion for the victims!! My favorite channel!
@@mrsshahid5117 I’m curious, are you hinting info about Obama and Hillary Clinton?
She may have had a mental illness, which caused all this. My daughter was bipolar and took her own life. I don't want to give her excuses but possible because who would do this to themselves
Her family backing up her claims initially made me think they didn't want to believe she did this. However, her mother was recently sued for refusing to return the donation money given to Eleanor, so I feel like they played a huge role in Eleanor turning out this way. What a vile woman. Sadly, she will likely do this again when she's released. She gives narcissist vibes and probably still thinks she's a victim despite ruining so many innocent lives.
All entitled
They've enabled her behaviour that's definitely apparent. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree comes to mind.
How dare she? Not one shred of decency in the lot, it would seem. Everyone who donated to this disgusting farce, out of the goodness of their heart, should be refunded. I can't believe she was able to legally keep the donations. What a pig.
she is a narcissist i have one as a mom and 14y and like 6mo of ptsd from her
Yupe. She is a psychopath and 90% of the psychopaths are narcissists. She for one is both.
Those men should at least be financially compensated. Ellie should have to pay them restitution for years.
She needs to be put on a watch list and when she is released the entire community needs to be warned about her because my god. She’s a monster.
People like this after being released from jail, they quit their country and live somewhere else and transform to a different person of course living a lie life and perhaps her family will support her
She needs to be put on the sexual offenders list for life.
she needs to be put down, she has ruined so many lives
I think if she leaves the country she will go either t pakistan or india😂
They shouldn't just release her any time soon. She should get a nice long sentence for what she did.
She's the very definition of a psychopath. Not all psychopaths murder. Some tell lies to destroy the livelihoods and lives of others.
Seriously. Who beats the crap out of themselves with a hammer? She's a lunatic.
They estimate that 1-4% of the populations are clinical psychopaths. Obviously, most of them are not murderers and fly under the radar. But as evidence here, you don’t have to murder to destroy people
So do narcissists.
True, in fact the vast majority of psychopaths dont murder people. But if they do, they really dont care about the hurt they cause!
she not only destroyed some people's life but because of this kind of woman the true victims are sometimes not believed
What scares me more than Elanor herself is the irrational response from society. Specifically, the actions taken against these innocent men based on one FB post. Truly, humanity as a group could induce more fear than one individual ever could.
And that is the danger of accusations; society for the most part jump to believe even before finding out if it's true.
That's the reason why religious and political extremism are around. Humans are groomed to be overly emotional these days, so it's no wonder that mobs can form around psychopaths, politicians and psychopathic politicians.
Cool story bro
Very true. It shows how easy it is to manipulate people with lies.
Facebook nerds are the fucking worst
This is why lying about sexual assault should carry the same prison term as the accused would have gotten.
The accused barely gets real justice . Let's be real! most cases never make it to court and most accused that end up being convicted barely get time.
yeah because two of them tried to end their lives , they should treat it like cyber trolls who convince people to end their lives
Exactly
Plus an extra for weaponizing the justice and destroy society
@@danifranc7011Where are you living? In Africa? Because what you saying doesn't happen in civilized world.
Not only did she do serious psychological damage to these men, but she’s harming TRUE victims of these crimes that might be too scared to come forward out of fear of not being believed.
Exactly
The issue is that people need to publicly condone this behaviour and shame them. Especially activists and other women.
She and others like her set back real victims, she single handedly did so much damage. She's horrible. Should've been given 40 years
@@Dionysos- I was SAd as a 4 year at a Presbyterian Church preschool. I don’t know the person and the statute of limitations is way gone, but I am for supporting REAL victims and calling out those that are beyond a doubt lying about what happened.
@@Dionysos- are you looking for "condemn" instead of condone?
condone = accept (behaviour that is considered morally wrong or offensive).
eg: "the college cannot condone any behaviour that involves illicit drugs"
The damage she did is irreversible. Those men will have to watch their backs for the rest of their lives, because there’s always someone who thinks that there can’t be smoke without fire.
Hopefully she receives rehabilitation and counseling so at least trama can admit to her lies. There are clear signs of trama and send rehabilitation toward admittance of her lies is a good thing.
@@droughdough Oh fck off. I hope she actually receives everything she lied about. Women get away with this stuff too often for virtually no consequences. I'm sick of it.
@@droughdough Hopefully she suffers for her dishonesty. Glad she went to prison though based on the actual reports.
@@droughdough oh shut the fuck up, she did a crime..why is it that whenever YT's do shit like this, it's everyones fault but their own. Trauma is no excuse for what she did.
You nailed it. Well said.
Even if she has experienced trauma, what she did is disgusting. Not only did she ruin those men’s lives, but she’s also made it more difficult for actual victims to be taken seriously. She’s revolting, I hope the men involved are able to heal from what has happened to them.
Exactly
There are so many severely traumatised people who don't do this to others so I don't feel sorry for some c-word still living in the comfortable part of the world who had a bad childhood but obviously enabling parents.
Disgusting women. So very narcissistic and evil beyond belief. Why didn't her prior history be brought to light. All of the lies of previous abuse, shame, shame,shame. Everyone needs to stay away from her.
She’s a racist disgusting liar I have no sympathy for such a trifling Karen
I can't imagine the sheer panic of someone accusing you of horrific crimes like this. Accusations like that stain you, kind of like being accused of endangering children. The crime is so horrible that just the accusation would rapidly destroy your life before anyone could get to the truth. In fact, I'll bet there are still people who think of the men as guilty even after everything came to light.
I feel terrible for the young man she caused to spend 70 days in jail with real sex offenders. The poor boy would have been terrified and he had to spend his 19th behind bars. I hope he and the others accused can find peace and know we support them.
I wonder if the police actually investigate it or just arrested him off of her word, because a lot of REAL gRAPE victims are told without evidence that the accused can't be arrested. But that's here in the States, idk about in England.
@@kitthecat6543 a word is enough to be arrested and jailed.
ellie got only 8 years cos shes white
@@christhomson8924 ok clown
@@christhomson8924, no, it is because she is a women. The African women that burned her ex Dutch and destroyed his body received almost the same sentence as her. If the color was the case this boy will never put in a jail while without any prove. Research for Berlinah Wallace case.
It’s pretty insane that someone would literally hurt themselves to the point of real bruises, red eye, and swollen cheeks all just to create lies to the public. 😱😱😱
Literally? as opposed to figuratively?
Always a smartass in the comment section!
AND a partially severed finger...that means she partially cut off her OWN finger. 😱
That is definitely “Extra”!
Yeh I really don’t get it
False accusations need to have more severe consequences, both for the lives and reputations they destroy, and for the cloud of possible doubt they cast on legitimate ones.
I disagree they have a severe consequence on legitimate sexual assaults the level of investigation required should be high.
We must see people innocent until people are found guilty the last few years that has been shifting for the worst and it does nothing good, it gives us the chance to become a MOB and become worse human beings it also hurts people greatly when some girl thinks now they've broken up she needs to punish the guy.
For any damage it makes to girls wanting to come forward, i think that is a lie from a lot of girls who want to make up lies who don't have enough evidence and just say that, the few who don't come forward there are normally more issues than just bad PR.
And instead of mobbing suspects we should be putting our effort into helping girls come forward asap while evidence is clear.
I agree.
Victims should absolutely be able to sue civilly when someone knowingly makes false accusations. It's one thing to go to jail, but that doesnt replace the victims lost livelihoods... they are absolutely due financial reparations
I think the false accuser should face similar punishment that the crimes she/he is accusing of.
@@suonatar1 there's no way that'll ever happen, but at least proper jail time is required even for pretty young girls.
What courts and older soft judges who would like to think those girls might do them, is that these people just realize they can get away with a certain amount of stuff and scale back their nastiness.
Women like this make it absolutely horrendous for real victims. This woman makes me angry. What a horrible person. Just shameful.
IKR What of women who were actual DV survivors who want to come out and come forward?! Eleanor ruined it all.
As a survivor of a sexual assault myself It makes me so angry when people lie about it. It really does seem to make people wonder if it really happened to me.
I concur, I'm hoping your well supported ❤
@@jr7845 Thank you. I have a wonderful family that has been my rock.
Same on both
I have the same feelings, it's hard enough to disclose sexual abuse for fear of being believed and then things like this happen 😓 wishing you all the strength with your healing 🙏
@@areiaaphrodite I am so glad you had that experience as well. So many don't
I actually teared up watching this. Those poor men and their families. She's toxic and poisonous to any man who has the unfortunate happenstance to meet her.
With the guy at the club you don't even have to meet her.
3 of the falsely accused tried to take their own lives 😢😢
Think about the harm caused by men to women in the past. Those tens or thousands of women in the past who suffered at the hands of men? Where is your sympathy for those women?
Your misogyny is out in the open for all to see.
@@paulinejackson5861 Who are you replying to?
@@paulinejackson5861 if a lady harms, she is shown given a lessened punishment, if a man comes up to harmin, he's most likely gonna get jailed
think about what you say before what you shout about
Her disgusting actions only makes it harder for real victims of SA and trafficking. How terribly sad for the lives she forever changed.
I am a survivor, not a victim, and hearing stories like this make me so angry! Even though he stabbed me, beat me, choked me telling me to die, I was still asked if I flirted, what did I have on while walking home.. I still wonder, if I wasn't on deaths door, would I have even been believed? It's because disgusting females like this WE SUFFER MORE THAN ONCE!!
@@Swnsasy Stfu and quit capping. Literally nobody who has been put through the trauma talks about it. ESPECIALLY to this degree. You crave attention and need help, that's literally it.
she will pay when the cold embrace of death takes her in her final moments she will be alone, with no one to hold her hand and tell her they love her. this is a small thing but to me enough. if there is an after life maybe she will redeem herself, but for the remainder of this life, there can be no redemtion.
@@xKevmachinex How nice. She'll die alone. Meanwhile, she can live her entire life free from consequence or care about what she's done. Wah wah.
Fucking disgusting that you think that empty platitude is a substitute for actual consequences.
Not sure if she’s a psychopath and a narcissist or a sociopath and a narcissist.
Your presentation and wording is amazing when describing the chain of events .
Sad stories but need to be told for the betterment of humanity and justice.
Good job man
These men had rock solid alibis and she still destroyed their lives. Imagine what happens with a spiteful ex. I've met countless men who had accusations against them, and even when it gets thrown straight out because of obvious lies, it can take 6-12 months and in that time they've lost their jobs, their houses, and their kids. And several times their lives. We live in a horrible world.
It’s women like this that turn men off being with women. As well make people less likely to believe women who are genuinely abused
And worst part is that those false accusations will stay with them for next years or even till end of their lives because some people will not believe that they are innocent and did nothing and for some they still will be dangerous and should be in jail or even worse.
The statistics of false accusations is literally so low, without a doubt, some of those dudes are actually guilty. Even when women go forward with something that actually happened it hardly makes it to court, no one is jailed. Women loose there jobs and friends for saying they were raped but yeah being accused is the worst
The number of false allegations women make about men, would actually outnumber the bad things men actually do to women. I have zero doubt.
@kennymoon1810 stop looking at statistics, it's nonsensical. Living in the real world and meeting various people you realize just how common this is.
I heard about this story and it is truly appalling. Trial by publicity is also equally disgusting. The people who harassed these men are nearly as terrible.
I haven't finished it yet, but I mean they thought they were standing up for a victim right?
@@steppin-razor yes but people are innocent until proven quilty for a reason
@@steppin-razor doesn’t matter. It’s why trial by mob was supposed to be a lesson we learned from the Roman Empire. This isn’t knew and anyone who falls for that shit is scum.
@@MikeOxtinks guilty until proven innocent is the new meta for all the twitter users
@@steppin-razor people would side with someone fast despite without proper proof yet.
Coming from someone who was physically abused many years, this makes me SO mad! She makes it less likely others will be believed.
I have been there also, and I agree, her actions were horrific! (Stay strong beautiful!)
Many such cases
@@tehjamerz way too many! 😥
@@ninalove3044 thank you pretty lady! You too ❤️🥰
Don't get me wrong, but i rather live in a world where believe isn't needed. The given story is an important example of why mob mentality can easily get people hurt. I rather see these things get resolved through proper means. And, when that's not possible, separate the parties involved without punishment towards either.
I've seen a close friend being ruined by false allegation and I've seen someone who was abused get ruined just the same. I don't want to be responsible for either
No, please, no to parole for this young woman. She needs long term mental health care before being considered for parole.
She took the story "the boy who cried wolf" to another level. I think the sentence is too short for the number of lives she destroyed and forever scarred due to her lies.
"the one who cried assault", that's what I was thinking.. Then because she "cried assault" so many times and went to such lengths, IF she had actually been a victim it would have more than likely fallen on deaf ears. Almost seemed as thought she wanted it to happen. Maybe instead of having the "S-nature" of committing the act, hers was a "S-nature" of wanting to be acted on. Doe that make sense?
I'm not an expert but I feel like she should be kept under surveillance or in a psychiatric institute after her sentence.
Just a white woman in her natural habitat, accusing pocs of hurting her. They have the stereotype of being Karen’s for a reason
Thank you Adrian! You deserve a coffee and Nero deserves a belly rub I’m sure after working like mad to bring us this case. Relax while we enjoy 💖 Have a great week everyone! ☀️
Hey thank you so much! I'll grab a coffee with this tomorrow morning :) He's working very hard right now by sleeping next to my keyboard, haha!
Nero is Absolutely adorable
@@CoffeehouseCrime You are an outstanding story teller, and a credit to the internet. Bravo!
@@tomperry1048 couldn't agree more.
13:40 I've always heard people say, "they committed suicide so that proves they were guilty". And I've never agreed... Could you imagine being accused of something so horrible and the people you thought were friends don't believe you. Complete strangers throwing hate at you as you try to go about your life. Even if you're cleared of accusations, most people have already decided their own verdict in their own head. The psychological damage would be insane...
I actually lost my brother this way, he left behind an explanation of what he was being accused of and he couldn’t handle the mental turmoil it caused him. Just terrible!!!
Sorry to hear this
@@maliat9204 words can't even....my condolences. 🙏🏽
I've been falsely accused of sexual assault of children. It nearly drove me to suicide, ESPECIALLY the constant harassment and destruction of property I was subjected to, which was utterly ignored by the police when I tried to file reports with them.
This lasted several years, despite no charges ever being filed against me, a fact that for the "pedo hunters" "proves" that you're guilty and the police are protecting you.
So yes, I can fully imagine it.
ellie got only 8 years cos shes white
I loved that you admitted to a few strange habits, Adrian. I taught my dog to push buttons to talk and regretted it immediately.
What did the dog have to say?
@@OlWhtWmn"out", "out", "out", "out", "walk", "walk", "walk", "walk", "treat", "treat", "treat", "treat" [10 minute break to lick own genitals] "out", "out", etc. etc. on repeat all day
@@OlWhtWmn Nothing fun. Outside outside treat treat. And if you tell him no treat, he will push Yes yes yes. Too smart
@@OlWhtWmn sausages
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She needs to spend the same amount of time in jail that the men she accused would’ve if they were actually guilty
rapists and abusers generally get less than 8 years lol, if they even go away at all. that being said anyone who's this insane needs to be locked up in an institution
they wouldnt get 8 years, alot of rape cases get 5 years or go free.
She needs to be in jail for life
@@EmyEgy31 is that right even if was a part of a gang as she lied about?
@@richydoumbe0 it can be - apparently the Rochdale grooming gang got 77 years total between 9 of them. So her sentence probably is quite hefty for the UK.
People who do things like these disgust me. Real victims aren't taken seriously because of frauds like these.
Consider this though. If the rare false accusations cause people to not believe other people's statistically very likely to be real accusations, then the problem is that victims are not believed in general. When someone from an oppressed group does something bad and this results in hate crimes, then those people were just looking for an excuse to be awful.
@@Shilanga-w2k Imagine if you were brutally raped and you went to the police and due to insufficient evidence you never got to see justice. The rapist walks free with no consequences to rape others .That happens literally every day. False accusations are incredibly rare this is backed up with data - but rapists walking free is very common.
I heard a story not too long ago.. A girl was hanging out with the "popular" girls group in college when they started talking about being SA'D.. To not feel "left out" She said she was and named the first guy she could think of... They spread this all over this prestigious college and he lost his scholarship, his friends, his everything... When it came out the day that she said it happened was impossible because he was at home, his father's home, with his best friend and the father was filming them gaming and being silly... The college cleared him but people still believed it anyway... He took his life because he couldn't take it and people CHEERED that he was dead... 6yrs later the girl reached out to his best friend to apologize for the LIE she told to just "fit in".....
I am a survivor, not a victim, and hearing stories like this make me so angry! Even though he stabbed me, beat me, choked me telling me to die, I was still asked if I flirted, what did I have on while walking home.. I still wonder, if I wasn't on deaths door, would I have even been believed? It's because disgusting females like this WE SUFFER MORE THAN ONCE!!
Seeing as false allegations of rape don't happen more often than false allegations of any other crime, I seriously doubt that individuals like this monster are the cause.
I’m so glad you shared your story as I was not brave enough to do so publicly. It’s so scary that ill women like this are tarnishing the word of actual victims. I really hope you’re doing better, you deserve the world ♥️
@@headmelter Thank you so very much for your comment. That really, REALLY means a lot to me.. 🤗❤️🤗
ur narrative is extremely obvious. whilst i wouldnt deny your claims, women arent ruining the spotlight for other victims. its men who choose not to believe most women. thats not the fault of other women who may have "lied" (i take that with a pinch of salt considering the legal justice system and the psychological effects of being SAd - which can cause you to forget entirely) , its the fault of our patriarchal society that will do anything but believe women. the over emphasis on "false rape claims" which are in reality extremely rare- shift the narrative to the victims rather than the perpetrators- who are mostly men.
@@iamerminserbia2283 a classic feminists that hates men spotted , you know you came out of your dad ball's ? In the end of the day say what you wish and try to make men look like the evil antagonist in the story however you want but it won't take away your extra chromosome neither will it take away the reality of the fact that there are evil woman as much as men .
Women like the one in the video are only damaging real victims of SA and innocent individuals plus it is quite the opposite from your claim as many times it doesn't take proof or evidence to destroy a man's reputation and life completely but just the accusation of SA is enough to do damage especially if such cases gets traction as this video has showcased , try to live outside your own bubble and traumas , women treat fellow females worst then you can imagine for the most shallow and tiny reasons .
Why would you do this to someone? It's one thing to harm yourself and another one to harm others.
I was a compulsive liar all throughout high school because I was sad and lonely, have ptsd, and I was diagnosed with depression but successfully recovered this year. I never wanted to harm anyone else with false accusations, there are no excuses to ruin someone's life.
I'm so glad those gentlemen did not succeed in taking their lives. I really hope there is healing for them and a healthy future ahead.
Thank you for this story, People need to understand that false claims are devastating to all concerned. Real victims loose credibility and those wrongly accused loose their good names - which have forever lasting effects.
"lose", not "loose". "Loose" is the opposite of "tight", or something you do with an arrow when practising archery.
Absolutely, she has damaged so many more people than her tiny brain could possibly imagine.
@@woopimagpie Thankyou. Why am I seeing all of a sudden a tonne of people who can't spell 'lose' and are constantly writing loose?
It happens all too often sadly. The UK legal system has no protection for those being blamed and automatically people are assumed guilty. Think of the Ulster rugby players lived who were ruined under similar circumstances.
Yes. Even the accusation alone is damning.
I actually haven't heard of this story, and that's so sad. That poor family that lost their ice cream shop, and those poor people that were affected by her.
@@dizzyd8754 yep, you're dizzy all right!
@@dizzyd8754 obvious bait
I thought hate crimes existed ? Hate speech ? Discrimination ? Islamophobia ?
Nah, she's a woman so those laws don't exist ?
I already said feminism was cancer ..
My ex did the same to me and I'm still recovering. Women do this more often than its being reported...
Because it's counter narrative to women empowerment and feminist narrative, men is evil and women all saint.
Love that u posted this type of crime I think it fits the channel very well and gives some variety. Hope you keep posting also this type
I’m so angry at her for tarnishing the word of other victimised women - she’s adding to the small percentage of liars that people use to discredit others. Horrible that these men went through this also, this whole situation is just horrid.
Exactly. The victims of grooming gangs in this country have been through so much and weren't believed and were silenced by police and politicians because they were too scared of being called the R word. And that's another thing that gets me. When she falsely accused men with names like Jordan and Cameron, she got away with it. It took for her to falsely accuse a man called Mohammed for her to face consequences.
I I appreciate that you don't sensationalize the stories and just give a brief. My heart breaks for the men and their families. It is shocking that someone could be so cold and not care about the people her lies would totally destroy. Sadly, I don't see her changing after her sentence unless she gets the help she needs. It doesn't sound like her family will push for her mental care.
And people like her are why its so hard for actual victims of assault to get recognized or taken seriously 😊
well if those victims didn't immediately go to twitter or social media instead of the police then yeah I wouldn't believe them either because thats a dumb ass move and VERY suspicious.
@@richmondvand147 Who says they do? Many often confide in their closest loved ones if they do. Tell me you like to victim blame without telling me.
@@sweetluvgurlExactly. Some of them are to afraid to tell anyone, let alone go through the trial.
Not really. False accusations are so rare and come from a rare personality type, ppl who compulsively lie and need attention. The reason ppl don’t believe victims, usually female victims, is because of misogyny. They might point to ppl like her to shield the real reason, but that’s why.
Except that her story was instantly believed by almost everyone?
My sister tried to do something similar to me. I got diagnosed with PTSD shortly after. I am working to get a protective order against her currently. She has an abusive track record. I’m very happy you are covering this case, it’s important to realize there are always two sides to every story! ❤
Another crappy part of this sort of phenomenon is that the media goes to great lengths to spread claims of the crimes, yet does little to rectify the situation by spreading the vindicating evidence.
Exactly
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Yes!! What the media does is criminal! They take no responsibility in their part of propagating lies and ruining people's lives - all so they can make more money.
Just like that Jussie Smollett guy in Chicago. Everyone was happy to cry about it at first and put blame but no one apologised when they realised it was all fake.
Our Home Secretary is doing the same thing right now- lying about that statistics on grooming to suggest a specific minority group is more likely to offend than others, when they aren't. She should check out how many of her MP colleagues have been convicted of sex offences before attacking other groups. The problems go right to the top.
*SHAME!* on *all* of the people that took it upon themselves to exact "vigilante" justice on those men, that even turned out to be the *"true victims."*
This girl is evil. She took advantage of the fact previous grooming gangs targeted young while girls. 1,200 girls in Rotherham alone were sexed trafficked by these gangs. So people were incensed by this because the police knew about the gangs but turned a blind eye because they didn’t want to be seen as institutionally racist. Look it up for yourself. The police were reprimanded for allowing it to happen. So if the police weren’t prepared to stop these gangs then it falls on the public to do so. Unfortunately for this man he was wrongfully accused and targeted. She deserves way more than 4/8 years in prison!
Someone who can self inflict injuries like that is not sane , all of her behaviors are scary . She needed more than just prison time . She needs actual help so she won’t do this again or something worse .
Agreed. This lady is completely insane. Maybe borderline personality or a psychopath. Something’s not right here.
Reading the comments, I feel like that's the part lots of people are missing. Like you really have to be in a messed up head space to beat yourself up with a hammer ffs. If America has taught us anything, it has taught us that just locking away people doesn't fix anything. You need to actually help people so they don't get worse. Pretty sure if Eleanor doesn't get some kind of psychiatric help, she will not be magically 'better' and 'learn her lesson', no matter how long she is in prison.
Yup, this woman is going to kill someone directly or indirectly. She's a textbook psychopath
@@aregisa2349 if America has taught us anything its that baseball is boring
Exactly. We had a case where a guy murdered his family and then pretended it was an intruder and to explain why he was the only survivor, he had inflicted injuries on himself with a knife as proof of a "struggle" with the "intruder." However, the self-inflicted injuries were so half-hearted, the the doctor immediately made a note that the injuuries were self-inflicted.
It is really very difficult to injure yourself on purpose, however strong the motivation might be, like avoiding a murder charge.
Also, how can someone be so totally screwed up and her family never noticed?
Im so glad someone is covering these types of casses as i know personally a few men that have had their loves ruined because a women decided to spread lies about them. Even 1 of these guys being prevented from seeing his own child
Absolutely crazy to me that she was able to get away with SO MANY false accusations against SO MANY different men, and never face any sort of real punishment until the very end, and her sentence was still light
Trust me, one thing I can guarentee you good for her that this was in the UK, false accusations in the balkans will earn her a severe beating from the same people she accuses
It happens a lot. Plenty of killers don't get caught for years.
@@MadCatLady28 I understand that, but the fact that Adrian knew about all of those different instances means they were documented in some way. The police must have taken reports and figured out she was lying, multiple times
@@trash_bender420 I agree. But sometimes these patterns that are glaringly obvious in retrospect aren't clear until the whole thing is put together. 99% of the time, an unsuccessful rape accusation is down to insufficient evidence, or mistaken identity, not malice. The majority of provably false rape claims made to police don't identify a specific attacker. Most people who make false rape claims about a specific individual do it via the rumour mill instead. What REALLY annoys me about the whole thing is the vigilantes will likely never be charged with anything who couldn't just let the cops do their job and decided to intervene on her say so. Yes, she lied. But she's not responsible for those people who appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner.
How is this crazy to you?
One of my coworkers even donated to the cause and when this all came out, she was devastated. People like Eleanor are a danger to others, its heartbreaking what these poor men went through. She's clearly one of those who love to lie to get attention.
These women always post these things online and get donations, all of of lies, u can never trust these women on what they say.
@@jeangrey5952 you’re making a generalization that’s just not fair, saying you can’t believe every single women because some of them lie about being abused is just stupid.
@@astwcsi U can’t just take their word and pics, u can believe someone when u have solid proof. I’ve seen too many men lose their freedom over a woman’s lies.
@@jeangrey5952 idk I got bullied by both genders 😂😂😂 or got scammed by a male and female from their MLM.
@@AshWilliams-v3e Sorry to hear that, but u need to stand up for yourself.
Talk about crying wolf. This case made me SO mad! The damage she caused others is insane and disgusting. Such a lenient punishment actually makes me even more angry
World would be a better place without her.
Agreed!
Furthermore I think her family’s choice to still see her as a victim is as bonkers as her initial behaviour…?
They are encouraging and facilitating her lies and delusions… they say apples don’t fall far from the tree…?
I have every sympathy for someone suffering from mental illnesses… but in my opinion this goes WAY BEYOND that!…..
I hope her victim’s manage to find peace…. They are all innocent ❤….
I agree. It's such a shame, especially since victims can be hesitant to come forward b/c they are scared they won't be believed.
Why do you blame her? Telling lies is objectively less damaging than actual murder. Nobody lost their lives.
The damage was caused by others, all she did was say something that wasn't true. The other people did not hVe to believe her.
We need to support her and women. We need to keep believing.
@@paulinejackson5861 your crazy, lies like these damage men permanently!
as someone actaully suffering from complex ptsd, i am enraged at whoever writes off this narcisstic monster's behavior as stemming from any kind of ptsd
love the variety of content! stories like this add such a nice variety. plus your compassionate retelling and breakdown lend perfectly to all variety of true crime! Thank you so much for your continued amazing content. You're truly the best!
Thank you so much vespertine, I really appreciate that! I definitely had to cover this one. The crowd were so quick to throw these men under the bus, but no one stuck around to help get them back on their feet... Infuriating story. I'm glad you found this story interesting!
As someone who has been falsely accused, this resonated hard with me, and felt a little bit of the pain these men had
I'm sorry, this happened to you.
hope you're doing alright
My husband’s ex was a psycho. She has a long history of making up lies about men caught in her web just for the attention. Time eventually exposes truth and patterns of behavior. When more than one guy changes his locks or flees the state, it’s made clear who is the actual perpetrator.
wishing u peace
I can 100% relate as someone who has been falsely accused of something so heinous and years later I still have not been vindicated. People like this deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I’m not sure what you were falsely accused of but I’m sorry it happened to you ❤
Thank you for creating an awareness about this. I really hope these poor men will heal. Ten years ago, my brother wanted to divorce his wife. She is a master manipulator and convinced my niece, at the age of 12 to say that my brother molested her. It didn't make it to court and she got her way. We all sided with her because she's a woman. For years we didn't talk to our brother like before until my niece turned 16 and convinced us to. She said that at 16, she confronted her mom about it, and she told her that the reason she asked her to lie was because she thought a divorce would have been too traumatic for her and leave childhood scars. Now, make that make sense please. And yes, we did confront him but she made my niece look sad by telling her that daddy wants to break the family apart. He also appeared nervous which makes sense due to embarassment and shock, but it didn't compute at the time. She also showed texts that she sent from his phone to my niece while he was sleeping. Sorry for the long paragraph but some readers here think we simply stopped talking to him without fabricated evidence provided by a master manipulator.
You sided with her because she's a woman? Not because you believed your brother molested his daughter?
wow...That's wild...that's just evil!
did you not at least question him at all or thought my brother would not do something like that ?
Tbh you and your family sound like pieces of shit knowing she's a master manipulater and just believing her "cause she's a woman". You abandoned your brother in his hardest moment in life. Hope he stays away from you guys.
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Just found your Canal and got addicted to it!
I talk with my cat, too 😂 and The cat answer me!🎉
I feel like this is something that could be made into a 4 hour documentary. We need to hear from the victims, and get their story out there so they can feel at least some semblance of justice and closure. The lesson in all of this is: don't believe everything people post on social media, even if it's trending. Think for yourself damn it!!
More like, let police do their job. I understand that they do screw up a lot but we can't make any judgements because we usually only hear one side
Well, that's up to the victims. I am guessing that Jordan, Mohammed, Oliver, etc want nothing to do with this case anymore.
We live in an era of fake victimhood. People are encouraged to "tell their story" and we must "believe" all.
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@@jamielee7404 fyi when it comes to sa cases and rape or dv cases cops dont take it seriously and the victims are dragged threw the mud so badly even the victim themselves blame themselves by the end of it. So no cops never do the job. What happens around my area is they get an equal punishment or worse. If they raped someone they are either murdered in the most gruesome sexual way or they have their d*ck sucked raw by a calf. If they hurt a child, well they never live but it usually last atleast 4 days and is worse than hell. And of course innocent men are not hurt in any way. Cops are corrupt aholes who only care about their corrupt business. They dont care about citizens.
My sympathy to her victims. I hope they are getting the support they need.
How are you doing today
Believe all women😂
@@Dionysos- men deserve to have balls removed
They will struggle for the rest of their lives
@@williamssmith2842 😊
Social media is really dangerous imo. This story somehow reminded me of the uncle and nephew in Mexico that were falsy accused of being child abducters. The word spread with social media and an angry mob killed them. They were innocent. That was an extreme case but it goes to show how people get influenced by social media. Very good video, important subject. I sometimes wish there was no social media at all..it could literally destroy your life.
I live in Mexico and you speak the truth.... mere words, no matter how false, get people killed and lives ruined, as it was in this case. Some fool above just wrote that if you are innocent you have nothing to fear and that is not the case. Innocent men are accused of awful things all the time and end up paying for crimes they did not commit.
Is that case where mob perpetrators were livestreaming the murders? Absolutely horrendous what they did to those poor men!
So stop using it
i agree
I’m so sorry for you and your family. I had an experience of false accusations being said about my Daddy who spiteful women accused of abusing me, as I got older I asked questions and luckily put this right but it’s made me very cautious of mostly women and their shade of spite that can be triggered by all sorts of things but mostly it’s when they feel badly done too, by a man or men and so they want to cause pain and damage to them or him and that can cause problems to more innocent parties close to them. So you can’t punish someone without creating a problem for innocents too. We all need to choose to act with love no matter what the choice of others, change starts with us. Myself and you and others. Let’s choose to act with love and see if we can spread a love remedy as it’s so important and not spread dis - ease of hate and spite and revenge and if you and I can do it, it’ll give us faith that it’s possible xx I hope your alright and I hope your family are now in a place where they feel only love 😊
People who blindly believed her in the first place are more dangerous than her tbh
Exactly...why do they/we just follow along....
Her family went to court... Saw all the evidence against her... And they still believe she was a victim? Are we serious?
The mother refused to hand back the money, says it all. Scumbags!
Anglos are like that.
Of course they want to keep the donation money! Plus why admit they raised a monster. Surely she had some sexual trauma committed by a family member or friend when she was very young.
@@susanl8478 I’ve just read about the killer of Olivia Pratt Korbel denying his guilt and his family in court braying their support and saying he’s been stitched up. Yeah, right!
I think the family know summits happened to her obv on their watch as they've brought her up so they are probably happy to think someone else is taking the blame for the drinking ect any distraction will do for guilty parties as long as the finger of blame isn't pointed at them it's fine and they stand by the false allegations it paints a nice picture to outsiders
This story was insane I can't believe more people aren't talking about it. Thanks for telling the world about it.
they aren't talking about it because men are the only victims in this case
@@hughneutron5303 More like woman is the criminal. For example, they don't report black on black crime, not because black are the victims, but because black are the criminals and people should continue to vote for the left, no matter the casualty.
@@hughneutron5303 it was all over the news
This is relatively well known, although brief at least it was covered in media, I do believe the gender of the victims contributes to the lack of popularity.
It’s literally everywhere, what do you mean? I’ve seen like 6 videos on it this week
As a victim who suffered years of sexual assault, was gaslit by family members. This woman absolutely infuriates/disgust me. Her actions are unforgivable and her sentence was far too lenient for the damage she caused.😤
I thought the pictures might have been fotoshopped. But she actually inflicted them to herself!!!! How insane! And, yes. I'd like to see more of this kind of stories. As always, great content. 😸
And.... I also talk to my cat.
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I thought everyone had conversations with their cats lol that's my buddy
I was also waiting to be said ...she photoshoped her photos. Couldn't believe she did this to her self. I think I watched a movie few years back don't remember it's name there was a Woman who used to scar her body then claims to the cop's it's her husband
I thought some of it was make up . still not totally sure it wasn't
This is a great cover by Coffeehouse Crime. It just shows that we as humans rather believe guilty until proven innocent than innocent until proven guilty. As well as the people who harrassed and sent death threats to the innocent never apologized for their behavior. A sad but real truth. Keep up the great work with the videos!
This story is so important to tell. Thank you so much. we, as a society have to really try to curb “knee jerk reactions” and remember innocent till proven guilty. As a person who has been falsely accused,I know how much faster a lie travels, and how slow slowly the truth is accepted after a lie has been believed. No one likes to feel foolish. Being accused made me feel dirty, worthless and afraid. I think I will always be guarded now. Anyway… I pick up things with my feet too, and talk to my cat 😉
"I am not a psychopath" she said after she made false accusations as a means to harm her victims
She’s from my town and went to my school. My best friend’s boyfriend almost had a relationship with her, glad he didn’t he could have been put in the same position as some of these men.
Always one
My best friend's uncles cousin's step son's piano teacher walked past her once. Glad he's okay
Great story... 8 years is not long enough for trying to destroy someone's life. Please do more stories like this.
Female privilege. I love feminism😂❤
Male privilege. Suicides
Her sentence was light considering her crime and the lives she ruined. Absolutely a judicial catastrophe.
I hope the innocent men involved realise that living successful, happy lives is the best revenge and way to find peace. As a survivor who was practically ignored by police when I reported my offenders, this story makes me seethe with anger. I hope Eleanor’s fellow prisoners teach her a lesson or two.
I also want to point out, that as someone who has c-ptsd, having this diagnosis does not mean that someone is likely to accuse or harm others!
Yes... my thought is a co-existing issue (maybe personality disorder, or just compulsive liar as he stated) besides/due to the "c-ptsd" diagnosed by the one psychiatrist. Most people with mental illnesses do not fabricate entire stories maliciously, but she may have a different subset of a more uncommon disorder. Or maybe she is just a bad person... and we're just looking for reasons why, cause we're human
Curious because I'm under informed on it, what is c-ptsd if you don't mind me asking?
Just got to that part of the video lol. Complex, got it
I hope you’re doing well and living your best life!
I agree! I was diagnosed with c-PTSD and what this woman did isn’t likely to happen
Thank you, thank you, thank you for spreading the message of slowing down and thinking about the things we read and watch. Reacting emotionally to distressing content doesn't help anyone; we need to stop, breath, and focus on a course of action to make things better instead of just angrily reacting all the time.
Thank you for sharing this. Stories like this make me SO angry. As a survivor of SA when I was 10 years old,I live with the PTSD, anxiety, borderline personality disorder and binge eating disorder that this trauma gave me, Yet people like Ellie make up these stories and can destroy lives of innocent people, and like you said, make real survivors not want to come forward because people will think they are faking it.
If she was SA when she was younger, then im sorry for her. Her mind obviously could not cope and into adult hood, this is what happened because of that but 8 years is not enough for the trauma she has caused for others and it certainly is not an excuse for it eiher. I have the above 4 mental disorders however I have not made up accusations. That is a whole new level of sociopathic disorder and she needs to be sectioned when released from prison as she will just do this again when she is released.
@Long John Thilver you dont understand what survivor means. You think of literally physically living through something. Usually, it means more mentally living through something. You physically aren't dead, but your mind is so jacked up that you really aren't living. The word survivor is undèstood by all who are. They totally understand.
It's good to know you aren't a survivor. Really, it makes me happy. It means you've never been through something that broke you.
@Long John Thilver troll
@@leannmeddings4068 Thanks for defence
@Aimiee D Sweetheart, you bared your soul to reach out and explain what you went through to help another human being only to be shot down by a 'person' who was so bitter about their own life that they felt the need to call you out as a liar. That 'person' has deep issues that need to be dealt with in order for them to move forward in life. You, on the other hand, are healing, maybe slowly, but you are. Sending so much love and lots of hugs to you. I pray your journey will be peaceful and beautiful from now on because you deserve that.
You're not a compulsive liar though. You're not accusing the innocent of doing these things to you.
I'm disgusted to be from the same town as her. It's just awful the lies she and her family told.
That is absolutely devastating to hear. Not only to think of how destroyed the lives of these men will be moving forward and the work it'll take to put it back together, but simply how far gone she is to inflict that much damage to herself just to keep up her lies. I hope she gets the help she clearly needs, but I'm glad she went to jail.
I knew someone who was falsely accused of rape and spent 9 months on remand but when it came to the trial the accuser made it all up . And she walked free it totally destroyed the man's life even now to this day .
She will be raped in most horrific way .. I'm pissed off 😡😡
I think like blood money, she should be responsible to pay every month for 18 years…
These women MUST be prosecuted. This is outrageous.
@@cathybassett6432 they almost never are. The ones that are, are so rare they make headlines themselves.
Same. Someone I knew told a woman he was seeing that he thought it was best they break up.. she wooed him back for breakup sex, then IMMEDIATELY went the cops and cried 'rape', had a kit taken and everything. Like, she had it planned and she made sure that all her text messages during that day could be construed as someone who wasn't eager in hindsight. He did time, before her best friend came fwd saying how she'd confessed to her that she made the whole thing up cos she knew everyone would believe her. It took ages after that for him to be released and she NEVER saw any consequences for any of it.
Full blown conversations with your cat doesn't make you strange, it makes you wonderful!
Agreed !
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Also, studies say that people who talk to themselves are smart.
@@quatzxice you're not talking to yourself, you're talking to your cat. Talking to yourself is a whole different linguistic skill. 😉
I have conversations with my cats too, they meow back so i feel as if they understand me. My cats are cooler then most humans I know.
Women like her undermine the real victims
I don’t usually comment but this is a shocking story. You do a fantastic job covering all these morbid stories Adrian, especially this one. Thanks!
Worst thing is her sister believes her! She even gave interview saying my sis isn’t lying and that there’s corrupt ppl in the force that made Eleanor guilty
Sounds like the whole family are insane
@@KippaxInThailand insane or in denial that someone would go to such lengths to concoct a story
Police(especially with daughters) act exactly the opposite,u hurt a young girl and they will get a personal grudge and hunt u down and arrest you roughly
this feels so so similar to Sherri Papini's story... I've known other people who fake trauma or who lie constantly with no real reason to. I'm fascinated by it, whether it's caused by repressed trauma, a need to be seen, or visions of grandeur. It's almost as if she's suffering from Factitious Disorder but instead of illness, she uses trauma, assault and other forms of self-endangerment. It's really sad she won't admit that these are fabrications, and that she won't seek help. Those poor people she's destroyed deserve honesty. They deserve much more than they get.
The fact that this happens so often is truly heartbreaking. And most of the time when the accusations are proven to be false there's no aid for the true victims and the accusers get to walk free with no consequence. There needs to be a better support system in place for cases like this
How often does it happen? I gather that best estimates of false accusations of rape make up around 3% of claims of rape.
@@simonw1313 in the last 20 years up to between 2 and 10% of sexual assault accusations were proven to be falsified. However this doesn't take in to account the number of cases that could not prove whether an assault occurred or not for a range of reasons, so sadly the exact percentage will never be known. And 'only 3%' is still far too many. For example between March 2021 and 2022 there were 193,566 reported sexual assaults in England and Wales. So taking your 3% estimate for example still means that on average 5,806 people were proven to have been wrongly accused in one year alone.
I think this was a very important story to cover. With the massive rise in popularity of true crime false accusations are a terrifying risk
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This is why I love you, you show the reality of people who do wrong regardless of gender. It's important to show the reality.
Wow this case is very shocking! Thank you for covering it. I’d be interested in watching other videos of a similar nature.
Thank you again for your empathy, care and great research as always
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Damn, thank you so much!!! Looks like I am going to be VERY adequately caffeinated tomorrow! haha. I've got lots of awesome things in the works, should have an announcement on that coming in a couple weeks. And thank you for sticking around so long! You're part of the #CoffeehouseVeteran squad!
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I'm from Preston and i remember this. The amount of racism against south Asians and islamaphobia this caused is unbelievable. And the fact that i saw this in the newpapers yet I didnt see the fact that it was all a lie is crazy! I wouldn't have known it was a lie had i not watched this today.
Am not saying its justifies but no one is more racist than asian.. And technically it's their country
It was all over the news and the BBC did a documentary on it which was on iPlayer
Yes! I would love to see more like this. Those poor men. This really saddens me that someone could be so cruel.
False allegations that can be proven false should be punished w the same punishments the men would have had to endure should he have been found guilty. Including registry as an offender.
You do make me smile, " There is only one problem with Eleanor's story, it was utter bullshit" People like her disgust me. Anyone like her, making up disgusting lies and ruining people's lives should get the same punishment that her victims would have gotten if they had actually carried out what they had been accused of!! This has made my blood boil and made me feel so sad for her victims.
I agree.... also.... 8 counts on averting the course of justice is all she was accused of? her crimes are greater. ruining lives and businesses of innocent people!
Absolutely. The punishment for a fabricated false accusation should equal (or exceed) the sentence that the crime - had it been true - would have carried. There should also be a compensation award from her current and future earnings until restitution is paid to replace what the victims of her lies lost. This makes things much harder for genuine victims too.
@@ChrisAndCats I think that’s the only way to stop these women from lying, they need to fear the harsh sentences of caught lying.
@@jeangrey5952 I agree - but also think that also goes for anyone who intentionally, maliciously and falsely accuses someone of a crime they know the person theyre accusing didn't commit.
@@ChrisAndCats I agree
I really liked you covering this story, Adrian! Those men deserve to have their innocence acknowledged 💜
they should sue
@@dizzyd8754 ?????
"But there was one slight small and pivotal problem for Eleanor.. and that was that her story was absolute bs." Lmaoooo deadddd
This is a great example why the public shouldn't jump to conclusions until the whole story comes out.
I remember when my mom told me, "The world isn't like school. In school people will tell lies, do stupid things, and hurt others to be popular."
The world has unfortunately become the school she warned me about.
Yes 😔
@midwestyle Thank you for your comment. Excellent point, great tip from Mom bc it was true years ago, & I'm sure she agrees with your perspective now. I'll always remember this comment! Thanks, again, from Staten Island, NY. 🇺🇸
School is a mini society, why would it be different outside ? Adults are just less blunt than kids but they are as evil.
Glad you're bringing up a case like this. It happens all the time, people make their judgement before police have even started investigating. And it's easier now with social media, for people like her to spread their lies and ruin other people's lives.
She should get way more time than that! These innocent men’s lives will forever be changed because of her lies! I’m a mother of sons. And this is disgusting and should have very hard sentencing terms.
So sad that one sick person can cause so much harm to so many 😳😵💫
The injuries she inflicted on herself are shocking, you can't be rite in the head to hit your own eye that hard with a 🛠hammer!
Exactly. She should be locked up for good. Clearly she knew what she was doing
@@Luna-xr3dk well not in a prison - an asylum where people know to not believe her crap
Severed finger
Cocaine's one hellava drug
Thats what i came to say!!!!