I must say even though their designs are often overkill, the attention to detail is insane. The left rear exhaust reading MMVI (2006) is the year Asus first released ROG branded hardware🤯
Yeah all that attention to detail, and they can’t even add a webcam or advanced Optimus, the details that actually matter not frivolous sht like rear vent design 🤦♂️
@@damontan4749 some people do nat want a webcam! They do not want NSA to watch them while accessing the hidden drive ;) The fact that they did not include Advanced Optimus is really a shame. They need to keep something for the next years model.
That's what the function key is for though, the laptop keyboard engineer people said they need hot keys for things, but they ran out of space. So function key and more functions for the f1-f12 keys.
Props to Jarrod for filming a new b-roll shot for EVERY laptop review where he shows the SAME tools he uses to open it up. Proven ofcourse, by the laptop he's reviewing/overviewing is in the background :)
Heads up, there is a glitch I had that caused my CPU to overheat. Once it hits 100°C, it shuts down. I have the regular Scar 17". The issue is related to Dolby Digital sound when using headphones. I ended up doing a system restore to fix it. I setup the manual setting to turn the fans to 100% by the time it hits 80°C. If you don't, it can heat up faster than Turbo mode scales up the fans then shutdown from excess heat. No problems with GPU temps. The new fancy cooling system on the SE might be strong enough to keep it cool.
I Just received mine yesterday and honestly i couldnt ask for anything better . Very solid gaming laptop and its really a huge upgrade from my 1060 . Thank you for the review
@@batmanonholiday4477 No it doesnt go crazy and its really quiet when you do a simple or regular tasks such as the one you listed but if you are video editor or graphic designer then that's different story .
So far nothing honestly . No back-light bleeding and the cooling system doing great job on keeping the system cool . The highest temp i got was around 85 to 87 and i was playing on 2k max setting and running all sort of apps XD . THE laptop is a beast i can tell you this and i am really satisfied with it
@@Souly995 oh, yes, actually more into 3d animation, some video editing, unreal engine for indy games.. i guess the fans will start working like on any other powerful laptop.. do you feel they hit really high and irritating notes or is it just a hum? i wonder if using a cooling pad can reduce some of that
I wanna say a big thank you. I am game artist and I am looking for someone who tries to benchmarks laptops for 3D creation usage. You are one of them and I freaking love you.
Thanks for your great review Jarrod. I've been waiting for this one for a while, and just ordered one for myself. Its expensive, but I have no doubt I will get every penny worth over the next few years. Love all of your reviews, the best tech site on RUclips.
@The It Factor still loving it! 🙂 It has not failed me once for now. I often have two games running at the same time (one being just idle/incremental, but still). Also, in one game (Soulstone Survivors) I could go farther than most other players did - the game had performance issues the deeper you went due to the increasing number of enemies, bullets and effects, so yeah, I definitely felt it is above average laptop. It's portable enough for me and being able to take this powerhouse with me when visiting parents or in-laws is really great. Though I had to get new backpack, cause my previous laptop was only 15.6''. For now it's still the best screen I have in house, so I enjoy watching tv shows and movies on. Might not be 4k, but still big difference to old FHD.
My man’s completely nailed how corny that UV light thing is. Its the sort of thing that would impress a 7 year old. How many 7 year olds out here with 2000+ for a gaming laptop 😆
This device is certainly really cool a lot of nice features inside it. But on the other hand you can see in the opened shots that there is a lot of unused space inside the device, especially around the battery. Since the battery run time isn´t the best, why didn´t they use this real estate to put in a larger 100wh battery? Or better speakers, more thermal headroom? This device isn´t cheap so anyone buying is expecting the best of the best, this seriously doesn´t feel like it.
My thoughts exactly. At this price point, I'm expecting no compromises and this machine is filled with them. I don't get it. Performance is great, but there has to be more to justify the price IMO.
I hate the fact that vapor chamber cooling is only available on the highest end model i9 + 3080Ti. I'm personally looking for a i7 + 3070Ti (since it will be easier to cool and comes close to 3080 performance without the $) but lack of better thermal options means that the i7 won't be running at its best (at rated speed of 4.7Ghz, or close to it). Or simply just for running components cooler.
@@Heliosvector This device has a 90 watt hour battery, by saying a 100wh I assume Luka is rounding up the 99.9 and questioning why Asus didn't put in the biggest battery they could if the Scar is being branded as the best of the best. There are now a few different laptops that do have 99.9wh batteries which are top of the line, yet this doesn't have one. The original comment's point is that this device has a lot of minor compromises compared to other top spec devices that while they don't sound like much, added together will slightly tarnish the end user experience, compared to a different top end laptop. when it's a 4 grand device, it really shouldn't have any of these drawbacks.
I had to go through 2 returns with this laptop. During first time my GPU was defective ( didn’t go over 100W at all), second time the left hinge was damaged ( probably during shipping). It’s a beast though, I guess I just got unlucky.
Disappointing in the port department for a 17 inch laptop. MSI even adds sd card slots. Gonna be waiting for the Lenovo slim 7i for the mini led screen. Hope that more manufacturers add mini led screens and SD card slot
First, he gets weird samples, almost all SE in every country is sold with 1440p screen and he has a 1080p. Second good thing we still have good old ips, all mini led laptops are all PWM, and it's a bad thing, even if you are not sensitive to PWM it can still cause eye health issue such as dry eys in long run. I fully agree this laptop needs more port though, AT LEAST 1 more USB A.
Excellent review with precise and comprehensive description of all the pros and cons, and a lot of good-to-know details : only here have I read that the vapor chamber is only on the 3080 model. Great work which helps me making a decision.
Awesome video Jarrod. I’m really interested in getting a 17 in. Gaming laptop with a 3070Ti and a better than FHD screen. Can you take a look at the 2022 HP Omen 17 inch builds with newest intel/Nvidia stuff? There’s a few configurations like that on Amazon for $2000.
I just bought one for 119990 THB or around 3300 USD. The lack of gaming laptop options in my country with RTX 3080/Ti forced me down to either go with ginormous Titan GT77 or a very large Scar 17 SE. That gutsy salesman actually gave me good discount on Scar 17 SE so it costed pretty much the same as top specs Scar 15. And yes I did get one with 1440p 240 Hz screen like Jarrod recommended. Can't wait to see how well this thing do on Emulation!
Hi buddy, I bought the same laptop, I installed a fresh win 11 and now overclocking tab is missing in armory crate, I searched and found out I need some files called esupport, can u please send me yours?
I got this laptop at the beginning of May this review was long overdo. :) That said I do not have the same hinge issues on my unit. I ended up swapping the memory to a 64GB crucial kit and replacing the two 1TB M.2 with 2TB Samsung 980 Pros in raid 0. Couldnt be happier.
That’s a good move. Did you have to clone the SSD with system info to a Slot that has one of the 980 pros put in before inserting both 980 pros? I wanna get this laptop kind of sort of already purchased it but i wanna max it out on the storage and Mem too
@@fabc9841 I ended up using a desktop PC with Acronis to clone the OS 2TB raid 0 pairing onto the 4TB 980 pro m.2 pairing and it worked flawlessly. Did a factory "reset" on the new pairing and its like it came that way from ASUS.
@@Rs8tails I see man. Is Acronis like Macrium? I ask because i have recently cloned my 256 SSD to a 2TB SSD from my now old Predator 17 that way. However had to get a Omicrom SSD holder to do it which thankfully ended up working but then the Omicron SSD case just stopped working so I retuned it. See I thought I would just take out one of the 1TB SSDs that doesnt have the OS and C drive out of the Strix which is arriving soon and then insert the Samsung 980 pro to then clone it ? I really wish the Strix SE came with a Third Nvme SSD slot like my Titan GT 76. I want to do what you did on ur Strix SE sby starting with upgrading both 1tb ssds to 980 pros and i hope i can do it like i just told u 😅
I dont think you can do it that way because the preinstalled OS comes 50/50 on both of the M.2 since its in raid 0 configuration. You could either clone both of those raid 0 onto a single 2TB M.2 or if you wanted raid 0 it would also already need to be paired through the BIOS. I havent used Macrium. You could probably do the cloning with a M.2 PCIE addin card on a desktop but my motherboard supports ASUS ROG DIMM M.2 Module so I can have 5 SSD on my motherboard.
@@Rs8tails That is unnecessary🤔 why would they equally distribute the O/S on both 1tb SSDs. I am not very familiar with what Raid 0 means and all that but i guess its a memory configuration?Anyway what u said concerns me because it doesn’t sound like ill just be able to add in the 980 into the slot where the O/S isn’t installed to do a clone. So i would have to purchase another SSD external enclosure to attempt to transfer the O/S which is needlessly installed 50/50 on both 1TB SSDs to the 980 pro. Which sucks. I might just return the Strix SE and get the Titan Gt 77 which has much better upgrade options
I am of a mind that all of these Notebooks with sick displays should have a DP input for when the internal hardware becomes obsolete. I have one of the first Zephyrus M's (GM501) i7-8750H/GTX-1060 , it's a great notebook (one of the first with a MUX). A beautiful 144Hz 1080p G-sync IPS display is mostly wasted on the 1060 with AAA games, Be nice to be able to use the display natively on current gen hardware.
One last thing I would like to see some faster ddr5 ram and see how much of a difference it would make once ddr5 improves and normalizes further. Something like 6400 or higher speeds. Just something interesting for one to know if it's worth it bothering with it at all
6400 will take at least 1-2 years for laptops, I heard they will release 5600hz for next gen laptops. enough for me as I am holding on my 10th gen heating throttling HP envy 15 😖
Another great review Jarrod, I can't really explain how happy the depth and detail in your reviews make me!👏 Was tempted by this before but it's £4,000 in UK (exactly as you stated). Managed to pick up a Legion 7i 2022 (3080ti/2TB etc) for £3,300, so hoping I made the correct choice but until it gets here or you review it, I could be a chump! Have you managed to get any luck with Lenovo on your end? Whether you reply or not, please don't stop doing what you are doing, the amount of people your reviews make a positive difference to grows every day and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend your channel to anyone needing guidance! 🥳
@@elcheapo017 Hi! It was from Lenovos UK website, became available sometime around midday on the 12th, had gone back to "coming soon" at some point on the 13th.
@@batmanonholiday4477 its a fantastic laptop absolutely no issue's at all. Because the cooling is really good its not a loud laptop. Alot of games I run in silent mode and you can't hear any fans. More demanding games I run in performance or turbo mode even then its not bad at all as gaming laptops go. It's by far the best laptop I've owned
@@batmanonholiday4477 definitely, it's a way better machine. Its faster then the x17 r2 and cheaper. I have nothing but good things to say about this laptop
Hey Jarrod - thank you so much for all the incredible work you do. You've helped me navigate my next upgrade. Moving from a 5 year old Surface Book (1) to the XMG Neo 15 E22. I'll probably notice a slight difference 🤣. Just wondering where the XMG Neo 15 lands in these graph comparisons?
Summary: MSI Gt77 performs better in GPU for most results, however this one performs better in CPU However, Titan has more memory / NVMe slots, and is a bit cooler, especially in idle it's a full 20c lower compared to this one, not to mention the mechanical keys (big plus). Pro, this one is cheaper though
I purchased the SE a few months back, and saw the Gt77 as well. It feels comparatively bulky in its design, so the performance being near equal is impressive for the Scar imo. They were both monsters, I was impressed by both of them.
I feel like I remember the hinges are easily adjusted once you're opened up? I also discovered how even $20-30 Logitech cameras are better than built in solutions.
I think that really good game for testing cpus is "squad"...maybe it's not that popular as other games but it really shows the performance difference between cpus...especially single core performance
My favorite laptop, I already watched all youtube video about the rog strix scar 17 SE . I liked your video (even if I sometimes have a feeling of déjà vu)
My Strix Scar 17 lid doesn't begin to close itself until much further down, just to note. My touchpad also doesn't have the right side wobble like your demo model has. I'm not sure if this is because yours is a heavily used demo model or not.
I hate when they decided to remove the mechanical keyboard and switch to regular standard rubber dome keyboard. Also if you pay attention carefully, the last year mechanical switch has a lot better lighting, no light leaks i found (like razer keyboard).
that chasis is a powerful flex from vjs though, i could also use that flashlight to fast check if some bills are fake or not, but well... neither is for gamers haha
This is weird.. I ran cinebench and my P cores in the MSI 15" GE67 are at 4.2, then they drop to 4.1 at 95 degrees and stay there. I have just raised ceiling to 98 degrees for throttle which I think is still safe. The processor is a 12800HX. And also just a 15" chassis. OLED screens are incredible and this is the first I have ever seen, but this laptop has a TON of problems which I'll go into in your inevitable coming review. But that said, yeah, Asus power limits must be very low? 3.2ghz is terrible at 89 degrees when I am getting 4.1hghz at 6 degrees more. That's almost an entire ghz more. My CBR20 is 8700, haven't tested R23 yet. That's the highest result I have ever personally had on any PC with CBR20. My previous best was the Legion 7i at 5700. Note, this has double the cores but not double the threads, it has 8 more threads, and the legion 7i can sit at 4.6ghz on all cores all day without a sweat, so I guess that is about right as far as scaling for the MSI 12800HX goes vs the 11800H overclocked. MSI have locked this unlocked processor down, I can't change multipliers or anything which SUCKS.. I would have loved to set to 3.8 to avoid throttle. Whatever! EDIT, oh ok, your 3.2ghz was with GPU loaded too.. You get much better scores when cpu only, will probably kill mine. However! Why do you not show what GHZ you hit with an 100% cpu only load?
Hey Jarrod, Would love to know what sort of performance you can get out of these machines with a 100w USB C charger attached. Or is the performance the same as if it's on battery?
I just got mine slightly different I got the 1440p one but the USB C charging can only be used for task like google, movies etc. which fucking sucksss !!!
Potentially with the AMG CPU GPU combo, it will get around 15% increased performance and if done right, it will be able to run the CPU at full wattage since the eGPU has its own power supply. Also it could potentially run drastically cooler as it only needs to power the CPU
Nice. But the nits are still to low. My favorite laptop is the creator z17 but that one getting to hot. 4 month's looking pros en cons and hoping for a little price drop.
hey jarrod, will you be reviewing the 2022 strix g15 or g17? i would love to see your thoughts on their more "budget" strix line. btw i love your vids, they were a major factor in picking out which laptop to get!
The 12950HX has a higher base clock of 2.5 vs 2.3 on the 12900HX. For those that like to disable turbo, that matters. Do Asus have the processor unlocked with access in XTU? I have been looking at this again as it is quite compelling, but there is no option I can see in AU but the 1080P screen. Big mistake in a laptop this powerful. Sales are obviously proving this, as this is still in stock everywhere whereas almost all other Asus laptops are sold out everywhere. I can almost get past lack of webcam and any kind of windows hello support, but for close to 6K AUD I just don't think I can get past lack of better screen options.
I was wonder what laptop i should get, my budget is $2000 and wondering if i should get the ASUS - Strix SCAR 15 G533 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i9 - 16 GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 512 GB SSD from best buy for $1,799 Or One of the asus zephyrus models Any advice would be appreciated
I have thr scar 17 2022 model but got it as soon as they annouced this. I would have gotten this one but then again, next year will come fast and will announce another new model.
On their site Asus do differentiate between the Nebula and Nebula HDR like HDR is 1100 peak nits and regular Nebula has 500 nits brightness big difference in contrast ratio and 10 bits colour debt in the HDR v 8 bits color debt in the regular Nebula. From what I can see the HDR is fitted only to the high end scar which is at least some 1k more expensive then the strix which has the regular 500 nit Nebula. I have also seen lower end Asus G18 laptops without the Nebula screen which are advertised having 7ms instead of the 3ms Nebulas and are lower priced
Hello Jarrod, nice review. What laptop would you pick? Eluktronics Mech-15 G3R with i7-12700H and 3070ti (External water cooler included) or the Scar 15 with i7-12700H and 3070ti?
The newer 2023 version is even crazier with 16/32 thread Ryzen CPU 🤯 ruclips.net/video/TjvQ1ZezOXY/видео.html
Considering the laptop can double as a desk lamp, I say it's a pretty good deal.
😂😂😂
Best comment 😆
actually desk lamps cost 1 dollar
@@Dr_Steal_Computer r/wooosh
@@Dr_Steal_Computer 🤓
Yet another episode of cant afford but still watching :)
One day you will!
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@@amirulizzat2114 by then there would be something better than this.
@@cyberdude274 however, the price will most likely remain around the same if we adjust for inflation
@@ed32568 True
I must say even though their designs are often overkill, the attention to detail is insane. The left rear exhaust reading MMVI (2006) is the year Asus first released ROG branded hardware🤯
yeah i´ve noticed this too, such a small thing yet really cool
This is on mine too. Rog strix 2021 (cheaper version than scar)
This is why although ROG Strix design were flashy, it kinda works for people who want something flashy (I still love my ROG Strix G17 2021 till today)
Yeah all that attention to detail, and they can’t even add a webcam or advanced Optimus, the details that actually matter not frivolous sht like rear vent design 🤦♂️
@@damontan4749 some people do nat want a webcam! They do not want NSA to watch them while accessing the hidden drive ;)
The fact that they did not include Advanced Optimus is really a shame. They need to keep something for the next years model.
Asus: “We’ve added the webcam back to our laptops this year!”
The Strix and Strix Scar series: *But it’s opposite day.*
5 years ago I bought scar 2 gl504 watching your video and now I will buy this after watching this video. Feels good to be around you ❤️🦀
3:43 - The main functions of the F keys ARE the F1-F12, not what each brand decides they should be.
That's what the function key is for though, the laptop keyboard engineer people said they need hot keys for things, but they ran out of space. So function key and more functions for the f1-f12 keys.
ASUS Engineer: We need a larger power supply
Other ASUS Engineer: For the GPU?
ASUS Engineer: For the RGB
Probably the biggest and heaviest power supply I ever seen for a laptop.
This is literally everything I needed to know about this rig, with no filler and no bs. Subscribed.
Props to Jarrod for filming a new b-roll shot for EVERY laptop review where he shows the SAME tools he uses to open it up. Proven ofcourse, by the laptop he's reviewing/overviewing is in the background :)
I'm glad someone noticed :D
Legion 7 gen 7 squad. But Asus is always welcome too
Wow just in time Jarrod, I was researching about this laptop earlier today! I think this is my first choice for my next upgrade.
What a generic comment. I guess the name checks out
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@@HanmaHeiro What? No way!
@@unknownpawner1994 😅
Heads up, there is a glitch I had that caused my CPU to overheat. Once it hits 100°C, it shuts down. I have the regular Scar 17". The issue is related to Dolby Digital sound when using headphones. I ended up doing a system restore to fix it. I setup the manual setting to turn the fans to 100% by the time it hits 80°C. If you don't, it can heat up faster than Turbo mode scales up the fans then shutdown from excess heat. No problems with GPU temps. The new fancy cooling system on the SE might be strong enough to keep it cool.
Send me your former one 🤲🏽
I Just received mine yesterday and honestly i couldnt ask for anything better . Very solid gaming laptop and its really a huge upgrade from my 1060 . Thank you for the review
how is the noise though? This is what i am wondering about... does it go crazy if you do simple web browsing and youtube, word typing?
Also, have you encountered any issues so far? screen back-light bleed or overheating?
@@batmanonholiday4477 No it doesnt go crazy and its really quiet when you do a simple or regular tasks such as the one you listed but if you are video editor or graphic designer then that's different story .
So far nothing honestly . No back-light bleeding and the cooling system doing great job on keeping the system cool . The highest temp i got was around 85 to 87 and i was playing on 2k max setting and running all sort of apps XD . THE laptop is a beast i can tell you this and i am really satisfied with it
@@Souly995 oh, yes, actually more into 3d animation, some video editing, unreal engine for indy games.. i guess the fans will start working like on any other powerful laptop.. do you feel they hit really high and irritating notes or is it just a hum? i wonder if using a cooling pad can reduce some of that
I wanna say a big thank you. I am game artist and I am looking for someone who tries to benchmarks laptops for 3D creation usage. You are one of them and I freaking love you.
Absolutely man, there is this ben kaiser who reviews laptops for artists too, but nothing on asus scar from him so far. what machine do you use?
Thanks for your great review Jarrod. I've been waiting for this one for a while, and just ordered one for myself. Its expensive, but I have no doubt I will get every penny worth over the next few years. Love all of your reviews, the best tech site on RUclips.
how much you paid for it and configurations, can you also share the link please thank you
@@markfordham3143 There's a few left on Amazon. Just ordered one myself.
@@itzjp777 i have one, you wont be dissapointed , has run everything ive thrown at it so far and hasnt broken a sweat
Mine is arriving today so hyped
@@Warscar. have fun... You are lucky
Week ago I got it though with 3070Ti and QHD screen. Loving it!
@The It Factor still loving it! 🙂
It has not failed me once for now. I often have two games running at the same time (one being just idle/incremental, but still). Also, in one game (Soulstone Survivors) I could go farther than most other players did - the game had performance issues the deeper you went due to the increasing number of enemies, bullets and effects, so yeah, I definitely felt it is above average laptop.
It's portable enough for me and being able to take this powerhouse with me when visiting parents or in-laws is really great. Though I had to get new backpack, cause my previous laptop was only 15.6''.
For now it's still the best screen I have in house, so I enjoy watching tv shows and movies on. Might not be 4k, but still big difference to old FHD.
@@Shikao87 awesome! Enjoy 💗
The loose hinges that causes the screen to close is actually a power saving feature developed for intel cpus 😂
WHAT! SERIOUSLY?
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Hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahaha
@@Rihaan_Thakkar Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahajahshaha
'Is not a bug, is a feature' :))
Your assumption is correct about its price: it should match the MSI at USD 4000. It's a little over USD 4000 in Romania right now.
My man’s completely nailed how corny that UV light thing is. Its the sort of thing that would impress a 7 year old. How many 7 year olds out here with 2000+ for a gaming laptop 😆
Many rich kids out there.
@@blueryxfalls7949 Sure. But enough to market towards whist alienating anyone with self respect?
university kids with shit tons of money to spare
Me im the 7 year old 🤓💀
Jeremy Clarkson: "More power!".
Jarrod: "There's more to life than just raw power".
Amazing review as always Jarrod 👏🏾 this is gonna be my next laptop!
This device is certainly really cool a lot of nice features inside it. But on the other hand you can see in the opened shots that there is a lot of unused space inside the device, especially around the battery. Since the battery run time isn´t the best, why didn´t they use this real estate to put in a larger 100wh battery? Or better speakers, more thermal headroom? This device isn´t cheap so anyone buying is expecting the best of the best, this seriously doesn´t feel like it.
My thoughts exactly. At this price point, I'm expecting no compromises and this machine is filled with them. I don't get it. Performance is great, but there has to be more to justify the price IMO.
agreed
Because you can’t have a larger than 99.99whr battery otherwise it won’t be allowed on planes, so no one designs them larger.
I hate the fact that vapor chamber cooling is only available on the highest end model i9 + 3080Ti. I'm personally looking for a i7 + 3070Ti (since it will be easier to cool and comes close to 3080 performance without the $) but lack of better thermal options means that the i7 won't be running at its best (at rated speed of 4.7Ghz, or close to it). Or simply just for running components cooler.
@@Heliosvector This device has a 90 watt hour battery, by saying a 100wh I assume Luka is rounding up the 99.9 and questioning why Asus didn't put in the biggest battery they could if the Scar is being branded as the best of the best. There are now a few different laptops that do have 99.9wh batteries which are top of the line, yet this doesn't have one. The original comment's point is that this device has a lot of minor compromises compared to other top spec devices that while they don't sound like much, added together will slightly tarnish the end user experience, compared to a different top end laptop. when it's a 4 grand device, it really shouldn't have any of these drawbacks.
Screen is the biggest downside. Why 1080p with 3080 ti? It must have been 1440p with 240hz instead.
There is 1440p version. You can check their website.
yessssss have been waiting for this review since you teased the laptop
Great video. I hope you can review the new acer Helios 300 soon since you’re the only laptop reviewer I trust
Good God, another review. Thank you so much! 🙏🙏
I had to go through 2 returns with this laptop. During first time my GPU was defective ( didn’t go over 100W at all), second time the left hinge was damaged ( probably during shipping). It’s a beast though, I guess I just got unlucky.
What was the price
@@thecompetitor4418 for the first one I paid 3.699 plus tax, the second one was 3.499 plus tax
@@andriikryvoruchko1666 USD or Euros?
@@kennetha6594 USD
Yeah unlucky mine is working fine atm like a king nothin wrong rn, hope you get yours fixed or replaced its amazing
0:28 bro that was funny and also practical. Imagine a friend of yours flexing it in a houseparty with a torchlight 😂😂
OMG!! They put a 1440p panel on this? FINALLY they listened! I am seriously considering one of these.
They put 1440p panel on previous model too. 165Hz 1440p
Disappointing in the port department for a 17 inch laptop. MSI even adds sd card slots. Gonna be waiting for the Lenovo slim 7i for the mini led screen. Hope that more manufacturers add mini led screens and SD card slot
First, he gets weird samples, almost all SE in every country is sold with 1440p screen and he has a 1080p. Second good thing we still have good old ips, all mini led laptops are all PWM, and it's a bad thing, even if you are not sensitive to PWM it can still cause eye health issue such as dry eys in long run. I fully agree this laptop needs more port though, AT LEAST 1 more USB A.
i have been waiting for this review for a while, and happy to see my purchase hasnt fallen behind on the jarrod scoreboard
Nah, still waiting on the legion 7. That's just a total package for me.
Excellent review with precise and comprehensive description of all the pros and cons, and a lot of good-to-know details : only here have I read that the vapor chamber is only on the 3080 model. Great work which helps me making a decision.
Glad it was helpful!
so no vapor chamber on 3070 model?? sorry I prolly missed it while watching
@@heartwire666 nope, only in G733CX 3080Ti.
Nice! more of these Jarrod. Budget one's would be nice too.
Awesome video Jarrod. I’m really interested in getting a 17 in. Gaming laptop with a 3070Ti and a better than FHD screen. Can you take a look at the 2022 HP Omen 17 inch builds with newest intel/Nvidia stuff? There’s a few configurations like that on Amazon for $2000.
Thanks! HP have some new system and aren't able to ship me stuff from US to Australia easily, they're trying to work it out
always waiting for this. pls make video between Asus and Lenovo Size comparison
When will the detailed Lenovo Legion 7 Gen 7 review arrive?
I just bought one for 119990 THB or around 3300 USD.
The lack of gaming laptop options in my country with RTX 3080/Ti forced me down to either go with ginormous Titan GT77 or a very large Scar 17 SE.
That gutsy salesman actually gave me good discount on Scar 17 SE so it costed pretty much the same as top specs Scar 15.
And yes I did get one with 1440p 240 Hz screen like Jarrod recommended.
Can't wait to see how well this thing do on Emulation!
Hi buddy, I bought the same laptop, I installed a fresh win 11 and now overclocking tab is missing in armory crate, I searched and found out I need some files called esupport, can u please send me yours?
Ooh, using that UV light suddenly on another person's laptop might produce, well.. not the outcome one might have had in mind.
Who the hell busts all over their laptop?
😂
0:31 love the acting, probably rich kid at school.
I got this laptop at the beginning of May this review was long overdo. :) That said I do not have the same hinge issues on my unit. I ended up swapping the memory to a 64GB crucial kit and replacing the two 1TB M.2 with 2TB Samsung 980 Pros in raid 0. Couldnt be happier.
That’s a good move. Did you have to clone the SSD with system info to a Slot that has one of the 980 pros put in before inserting both 980 pros? I wanna get this laptop kind of sort of already purchased it but i wanna max it out on the storage and Mem too
@@fabc9841 I ended up using a desktop PC with Acronis to clone the OS 2TB raid 0 pairing onto the 4TB 980 pro m.2 pairing and it worked flawlessly. Did a factory "reset" on the new pairing and its like it came that way from ASUS.
@@Rs8tails I see man. Is Acronis like Macrium? I ask because i have recently cloned my 256 SSD to a 2TB SSD from my now old Predator 17 that way. However had to get a Omicrom SSD holder to do it which thankfully ended up working but then the Omicron SSD case just stopped working so I retuned it. See I thought I would just take out one of the 1TB SSDs that doesnt have the OS and C drive out of the Strix which is arriving soon and then insert the Samsung 980 pro to then clone it ? I really wish the Strix SE came with a Third Nvme SSD slot like my Titan GT 76. I want to do what you did on ur Strix SE sby starting with upgrading both 1tb ssds to 980 pros and i hope i can do it like i just told u 😅
I dont think you can do it that way because the preinstalled OS comes 50/50 on both of the M.2 since its in raid 0 configuration. You could either clone both of those raid 0 onto a single 2TB M.2 or if you wanted raid 0 it would also already need to be paired through the BIOS. I havent used Macrium. You could probably do the cloning with a M.2 PCIE addin card on a desktop but my motherboard supports ASUS ROG DIMM M.2 Module so I can have 5 SSD on my motherboard.
@@Rs8tails That is unnecessary🤔 why would they equally distribute the O/S on both 1tb SSDs. I am not very familiar with what Raid 0 means and all that but i guess its a memory configuration?Anyway what u said concerns me because it doesn’t sound like ill just be able to add in the 980 into the slot where the O/S isn’t installed to do a clone. So i would have to purchase another SSD external enclosure to attempt to transfer the O/S which is needlessly installed 50/50 on both 1TB SSDs to the 980 pro. Which sucks. I might just return the Strix SE and get the Titan Gt 77 which has much better upgrade options
6:12 About that issue, I have that problem on my scar 15 too, I just clicked on "Optimize" button on game in geforce and games runs great after that.
I am of a mind that all of these Notebooks with sick displays should have a DP input for when the internal hardware becomes obsolete. I have one of the first Zephyrus M's (GM501) i7-8750H/GTX-1060 , it's a great notebook (one of the first with a MUX). A beautiful 144Hz 1080p G-sync IPS display is mostly wasted on the 1060 with AAA games, Be nice to be able to use the display natively on current gen hardware.
The "RGB ---> huge performance" joke never dissapoints :P
Yep this is the laptop of all laptops! Benchmarks were nuts when I saw that 23.3k acote score 2009 single core score I about shit my pants haha.
When are we gona see an automatically openin and closing of a laptop Lid, future Tecs gona be amazing
Thank you so much you spend a lot of time to created this video and I finally bought this laptop.👏👏
What do you do for a living?
@@apimpnamedstreetmeat work 12 hours 7 day a week on McDonald's
One last thing I would like to see some faster ddr5 ram and see how much of a difference it would make once ddr5 improves and normalizes further. Something like 6400 or higher speeds. Just something interesting for one to know if it's worth it bothering with it at all
6400 will take at least 1-2 years for laptops, I heard they will release 5600hz for next gen laptops. enough for me as I am holding on my 10th gen heating throttling HP envy 15 😖
@@zagranzon2464 hz?💀
@@ekdkchisns7503 Hertz, the clock speed, the number of transfers of data in between the cpu and ram per second, aka the cycles per second
@@zagranzon2464 That's what I learned too. I wonder how it will impact laptops with AMD cpu and cpu+gpu has they'll support DDR5 5200 Mhz.
Is that.... a gaming laptop with ports in the back! What a miracle 😭🙏
Love your Vids! Keep up the good work!
Another great review Jarrod, I can't really explain how happy the depth and detail in your reviews make me!👏 Was tempted by this before but it's £4,000 in UK (exactly as you stated). Managed to pick up a Legion 7i 2022 (3080ti/2TB etc) for £3,300, so hoping I made the correct choice but until it gets here or you review it, I could be a chump!
Have you managed to get any luck with Lenovo on your end? Whether you reply or not, please don't stop doing what you are doing, the amount of people your reviews make a positive difference to grows every day and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend your channel to anyone needing guidance! 🥳
What uk retailer did you get the legion 7i from?
@@elcheapo017 Hi! It was from Lenovos UK website, became available sometime around midday on the 12th, had gone back to "coming soon" at some point on the 13th.
No luck with Lenovo yet, hopefully soon!
for linux try to use manjaro linux, it's better without outdated drivers etc. Personally tested by me
Legion 7i gen7 i can't wait👌
2:05 wow 🤩 a soft close toilet 🚽 seat function on a laptop 💻 who woulda thunk it 🤣😂😅😉
Got mine this morning after watching your review. Early impressions are this a very good machine. 👍
have you encountered any issues so far? how about the noise?
@@batmanonholiday4477 its a fantastic laptop absolutely no issue's at all. Because the cooling is really good its not a loud laptop. Alot of games I run in silent mode and you can't hear any fans. More demanding games I run in performance or turbo mode even then its not bad at all as gaming laptops go. It's by far the best laptop I've owned
@@stephenm6058 glad to hear about this, i think i will go for this one.. top performance for around 1000k + less than alienware hehe
@@batmanonholiday4477 definitely, it's a way better machine. Its faster then the x17 r2 and cheaper. I have nothing but good things to say about this laptop
Love your video's ❤️keep it up and can you make a video on it how to use manual mode in armoury crates software for good performance in game 🙂
great vid
Hey Jarrod - thank you so much for all the incredible work you do. You've helped me navigate my next upgrade. Moving from a 5 year old Surface Book (1) to the XMG Neo 15 E22. I'll probably notice a slight difference 🤣. Just wondering where the XMG Neo 15 lands in these graph comparisons?
haha just a slight difference. The Neo 15 is in the gaming section (11:58), though this is with the Oasis (water cooler)
Great video Jarrod! Thank you! ❤️🔥🤘
Summary: MSI Gt77 performs better in GPU for most results, however this one performs better in CPU
However, Titan has more memory / NVMe slots, and is a bit cooler, especially in idle it's a full 20c lower compared to this one, not to mention the mechanical keys (big plus).
Pro, this one is cheaper though
I purchased the SE a few months back, and saw the Gt77 as well. It feels comparatively bulky in its design, so the performance being near equal is impressive for the Scar imo. They were both monsters, I was impressed by both of them.
I feel like I remember the hinges are easily adjusted once you're opened up? I also discovered how even $20-30 Logitech cameras are better than built in solutions.
I think that really good game for testing cpus is "squad"...maybe it's not that popular as other games but it really shows the performance difference between cpus...especially single core performance
for something that big, should be on par with gt77 2022 on upgradeability.
My favorite laptop, I already watched all youtube video about the rog strix scar 17 SE . I liked your video (even if I sometimes have a feeling of déjà vu)
I would absolutely love to see a full review of the Flow X16 - must absolutely see that one before I decide.
I'm still waiting on asus to send that one
It is way cheaper in USA than in Europe, In the EU is 4400$ in USA is only 3600$ lol. Almost 1000$ difference, it's freaking huge.
The lack of g sync is disappointing but as always thanks for the in depth review.
My Strix Scar 17 lid doesn't begin to close itself until much further down, just to note. My touchpad also doesn't have the right side wobble like your demo model has. I'm not sure if this is because yours is a heavily used demo model or not.
I hate when they decided to remove the mechanical keyboard and switch to regular standard rubber dome keyboard. Also if you pay attention carefully, the last year mechanical switch has a lot better lighting, no light leaks i found (like razer keyboard).
Bro nailed it. This is my new daily driver. Idk if this laptop already available in my country Philippines
I personally prefer the Titan, the better upgradability and higher personalisation is what i keep wishing from Laptop Manufacturers.
Its $3400 for the 2tb 1440p model, much more affordable than msi.
My office has a black light ambience setting, the laptop would be so bright in there
I came for the reviews, I stayed for the epic band t-shirts.
that chasis is a powerful flex from vjs though, i could also use that flashlight to fast check if some bills are fake or not, but well... neither is for gamers haha
no more desktops, THIS is the first time you can genuinely say that.
This is weird.. I ran cinebench and my P cores in the MSI 15" GE67 are at 4.2, then they drop to 4.1 at 95 degrees and stay there. I have just raised ceiling to 98 degrees for throttle which I think is still safe. The processor is a 12800HX.
And also just a 15" chassis. OLED screens are incredible and this is the first I have ever seen, but this laptop has a TON of problems which I'll go into in your inevitable coming review.
But that said, yeah, Asus power limits must be very low? 3.2ghz is terrible at 89 degrees when I am getting 4.1hghz at 6 degrees more. That's almost an entire ghz more.
My CBR20 is 8700, haven't tested R23 yet. That's the highest result I have ever personally had on any PC with CBR20.
My previous best was the Legion 7i at 5700. Note, this has double the cores but not double the threads, it has 8 more threads, and the legion 7i can sit at 4.6ghz on all cores all day without a sweat, so I guess that is about right as far as scaling for the MSI 12800HX goes vs the 11800H overclocked.
MSI have locked this unlocked processor down, I can't change multipliers or anything which SUCKS.. I would have loved to set to 3.8 to avoid throttle. Whatever!
EDIT, oh ok, your 3.2ghz was with GPU loaded too.. You get much better scores when cpu only, will probably kill mine. However! Why do you not show what GHZ you hit with an 100% cpu only load?
Still love my Legion 5 5800H with 3070 that cost £1200.Think I'll stick with that for a while.
I love watching this that I can't afford 😂
Hey Jarrod,
Would love to know what sort of performance you can get out of these machines with a 100w USB C charger attached. Or is the performance the same as if it's on battery?
I just got mine slightly different I got the 1440p one but the USB C charging can only be used for task like google, movies etc. which fucking sucksss !!!
The biggest hype of this video is that the flow 16 review mist be coming soon!!!
Please show the performance with and without the external GPU
Potentially with the AMG CPU GPU combo, it will get around 15% increased performance and if done right, it will be able to run the CPU at full wattage since the eGPU has its own power supply.
Also it could potentially run drastically cooler as it only needs to power the CPU
Still haven't received the Flow x16 for testing unfortunately.
@@JarrodsTech
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Is there any ETA?
Where did you get that led HDMI cable?! That s exactly what I need to compliment my gaming set up!
Given its price tag you'd think it would come in full metal finish and not just on the top.
I gotta say that uv light is biggest flex u can do 😂
Nice. But the nits are still to low.
My favorite laptop is the creator z17 but that one getting to hot. 4 month's looking pros en cons and hoping for a little price drop.
The UV reacting coating looks awesome
Only one thing is missing here - the 18"(16:10) screen
Love the Linux compatibility test, everyone should do that, so these companies will pay more attention to Linux support.
Do you know what kind of Linux that is, it looks interesting.
@@proxima9563 I think he mentions it, Ubuntu Linux 22.04 (they have 2 releases a year and this one came in April).
hey jarrod, will you be reviewing the 2022 strix g15 or g17? i would love to see your thoughts on their more "budget" strix line.
btw i love your vids, they were a major factor in picking out which laptop to get!
Add in windows hello and a webcam and sold! Hopefully when the 40 series comes out that will be the case! Thank you Jarrod!
So many details, yet they forget something as simple as an ir camera for Windows Hello or a finger print reader....unacceptable for the price.
Glad to see you're fully on board will all of your tech spying on you
Can't wait for the Zen 4 Dragon range laptops like this with 16 cores. Having 5950x performance in a laptop is gonna be insane.
This IS 5950x performance on a laptop. I have a 5950x so I'm not a hater.
if Asus doesn't include a webcam on the laptop the least they could do for that price is include a USB one in the box.
The 12950HX has a higher base clock of 2.5 vs 2.3 on the 12900HX. For those that like to disable turbo, that matters.
Do Asus have the processor unlocked with access in XTU?
I have been looking at this again as it is quite compelling, but there is no option I can see in AU but the 1080P screen. Big mistake in a laptop this powerful.
Sales are obviously proving this, as this is still in stock everywhere whereas almost all other Asus laptops are sold out everywhere. I can almost get past lack of webcam and any kind of windows hello support, but for close to 6K AUD I just don't think I can get past lack of better screen options.
The uv thing could be cooler if it was a 3M reflective coating instead
I was wonder what laptop i should get, my budget is $2000 and wondering if i should get the
ASUS - Strix SCAR 15 G533 15.6"
Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i9 - 16 GB
Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 -
512 GB SSD from best buy for $1,799
Or
One of the asus zephyrus models
Any advice would be appreciated
I should add that im focusing on gaming and running game engines like unity.
I have thr scar 17 2022 model but got it as soon as they annouced this. I would have gotten this one but then again, next year will come fast and will announce another new model.
On their site Asus do differentiate between the Nebula and Nebula HDR like HDR is 1100 peak nits and regular Nebula has 500 nits brightness big difference in contrast ratio and 10 bits colour debt in the HDR v 8 bits color debt in the regular Nebula. From what I can see the HDR is fitted only to the high end scar which is at least some 1k more expensive then the strix which has the regular 500 nit Nebula. I have also seen lower end Asus G18 laptops without the Nebula screen which are advertised having 7ms instead of the 3ms Nebulas and are lower priced
Jarrod flexing with the UV torch 🤣👍
Hello Jarrod, nice review.
What laptop would you pick? Eluktronics Mech-15 G3R with i7-12700H and 3070ti (External water cooler included) or the Scar 15 with i7-12700H and 3070ti?