Fuji 16mm 1.4 vs 16mm 2.8, Detailed comparison
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I've used the 16mm 1.4 for around three years now and it's been my favorite lens of any lens I've ever used. When Fuji released the 16mm 2.8 I was obviously intrigued and anxious to see how it stacked up. I've now been shooting with both for several months and feel I''m ready to give a detailed comparison as well as my thoughts into which of these two excellent lenses may work best for your situation.
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Thanks for posting this! Really helpful.
The portraits you get out of that 16mm 1.4 are where it really shines... or I should say where YOU really shine. They have an energy, and a sense of the world around them that you don't get on a more traditional portrait lens. Something really magic about them that doesn't quite come through on the 2.8 version.
Saying that I'm gonna pick up a 2.8. Because I shoot street and I'm cheap. 😜
Thanks for another great video! I totally agree with your findings when I tested the f/2.8 against f/1.4. A tiny bit sharper but to my eyes also a bit more “processed” rendering! (I am keeping the 1.4😁)
Thanks for an awesome video full of information and a complete lack of sponsors and superfluous b roll. You rock!
You always mention your “love” for a 16mm and how good it is, so I got the f/2.8 (I also got the 35mm f/2 LOL), I couldn't be happier, I’m not a professional, I just shoot for fun (X-T2, my first and only digital camera) and I’m always shooting between f/8 and f/11, I don’t have to tell you how great the lenses are at those apertures. Thank you very much for your tutorials, reviews, advice and opinions.
Thank you for another really stylish, balanced and helpful review! I agree that sharpness is but one criterion and that usability in a range of scenarios is key. I have, and love, the 16mm 1.4, but you have helped me confirm a growing view that it would be helpful to have both. Keep up the great work!!
Thx for this video. Until the end of your video I was thinking about replacing the 1.4 with the 2.8, but I was not sure. You helped me to stick with the 1.4 and eased my mind 👍
I've missed you!
Great video!
Have the 16mm f1.4 and 35mm F2 due to your recommendations and my needs very satisfied! Love these lenses.
Excellent reviews, not only you know your stuff, you're very careful not to upset people of other options, keep it up!
I own both and kept both for the love of the focal length. They both have their time/place. Thanks for this video Andrew ! Awesome as always
Another fantastic lens comparison, Andrew. Was torn between these two - but now I feel pretty confident knowing which one will fit my needs. Many thanks
Glad to hear it Andrew!
That's a very cool waterfall. IMHO, the 16 1.4 is one of the very best wide angle lenses available for any camera. Keen to try the 2.8 as well of course.
Hey Andrew !!! You have the best reviews on youtube, demonstrated practically and very factual your a true pro the way you present your self...im a wide angle shooter as i know you love your 16mm 1.4, i was undecided about the 10-24mm or 16mm 1.4 lens to buy so i bought the 10-24 lens a year ago and i love using it more than any of my other fuji lenses i have. I just love shooting wide... and i still feel guilty i dont have the 16mm 1.4 in my collection!!! Is it a must have lens for fuji wide angle lovers??
Thank you Andrew! One of my favorite things about your channel is “Kindness before cameras.” You make me believe it.
Totally agree with your point on image quality
Thanks for the review, i going to buy the 2.8, and you gave me a lot of info that i was looking for. 👍
My X-T30 loves that 16/f2.8. What a superb little lens. I can live without the little nudge in dof and light gathering. F/2.8 is plenty fast.
I'm lucky to have both of these lenses. I really like the 1.4 and I use it when my day is focussed on either long exposure or landscape photography. However, if I'm going to be doing some street photography or travelling, I will definitely reach for the 2.8. Yes, the 1.4 is better than the 2.8, but it depends on what you need it for. Really appreciate your videos. Always informative. Thank you.
Another top notch review Andrew 👍
Excellent video as always!
Thanks for sharing your opinion Andrew. For me personally, the f2.8 version sounds like a good match and I could use the money I saved to get another lens instead. I think the smaller size and weight are major factors for my run and gun style of photography.
I love my 1.4 but you're right about how much noise it makes focusing, not something I was aware of until I thought about making a minimal setup with an on-board mic and wrecked a bunch of footage, so that was annoying
The 16 1.4 is amazing. It is great for indoor ‘event’ shots. However, I found I rarely packed it due to size and weight. I LOVE the 27 on my X-T2 or X-E3. My other lens is the 35 f2 for indoor family shots. With the 27 I’m usually outdoors so it lives at mid-aperture. Lack of ring no issue here.
This was a great honest comparison. The best I've seen for these lenses. I think the only comment I'd challenge would be the "inconspicuousness" comparison for street. In this time where privacy concern is front and center, shooting street with *anything* is going to raise eyebrows/get smirks, etc. People just seem more sensitive to someone pointing any camera at them. I don't think in this case, and in my street experience, the size makes a noticeable difference. I've gone out with a D810 with no one caring one iota, yet shot with my phone or my XPro with the 18 on it and had people cover their face or shoot me eye daggers. A camera is a camera to those not comfortable with having their pic taken. Anything you put up to your face and point toward someone will get attention. That said , being respectful and even carrying info cards with us can pay dividends when confronted with anyone who approaches us asking questions.
Hmmm. I've had a very different experience to this! While it is true that the best way to take any photo would always be to put the subject at ease (by either calming their worries in advance and explaining, or quickly gesturing and overtly indicating your intentions before snapping)... very many of us are not going to be able to ask every passing stranger if they are happy to be caught in a photo that often isn't really focused on them. And many would not want to take that style of photo in any case. And in those situations where you can't ask... having a smaller inconspicuous camera, that looks pretty much like an everyday tourist taking touristy snaps, definitely draws 10 times less attention or objection. Two or three silent snaps and move on. No one ever really cares.
The social situation is actually somewhat reversed with a small camera or phone camera: short of pointing a camera into someone's face from 2-3 feet away... anyone going after or confronting someone using one in public would be considered a bit of a crank and as behaving slightly unreasonably (even though it is always best to immediately agree to delete any photo in any case!). Meanwhile, I find that ANY lens bigger than a relatively small prime... or ANY camera that starts to even look like a zoom DSLR... draws a very different response when pointed. It has an effect somewhat like pointing a gun randomly around you: people start to duck and dive and try to get out of the line of sight/fire. If you look like an American Tourist (I'm not in the US)... you may still get away with people simply smiley-grimacing or rolling their eyes. But if you hang around taking loud clicky photos... with a big lens overtly pointing it at passing people over and over... it is not unusual for someone to take issue. And onlookers tend to sympathise with the person being randomly photo'd.
Best Comparison video of the 16 1.4 and 16 2.8!!! Ever!!! thank you for this Andrew!!!
Kind words. Thank you
like your balanced approach a lot, thanks!
aaaaaa another lens video from u guys ✨👌
Thanks! i watch all your videos for a long time now and this one helped a lot. i have been wanting the 16mm f1.4 for a long time and have been shooting on fuji for years and have "OK" collection. But after this video sir... i kinda want the 16mm 2.8 for the sharpness and affordability. Bokeh is nice n all but i usually stop down to 5.6 or 8 anyway. the only thing that still has me on the fence is the focal distance and since im now heavily into macro i need to find out how close i can get with the 16mm 2.8 and that will determine my purchase. You rock and have pretty much influenced the majority of my collection and seem to be beautifully a positive soul in general so...well...thanks in general!
Glad to hear I've been able to help you! All the best.
This is awesome babe! Love it!
Great review very balanced. I bought the f2.8 version on release and love it. Even with all the excellence of the f1.4 of which I have had two copies I don’t miss it all, paired with a 35 f2 (my favourite lens) and finished off with the superlative 50-140 I am a very happy shooter. Just bought a XT3 to supplement my XT2 and am surprised at how good it is. However had use of a XH1 recently and loved the balance, phenomenal shutter release and ibis. Very tempted to change my XT2 body for one if these as I probably wont be able to afford the XH2 when it is released. Fuji gets better all the time.
I love my 16mm1.4 , it is my second favourite lens behind the 35f2 . It is such an incredible lens !
Yup, I have both those lenses. And the 35 F2 is awesome! 👍🏻
Would this 16 f1.4 pair well with the 35 f1.4?
@@mydearriley absolutely!
This is a very good and helpful review to me.
awesome explanation!! thanks for sharing.
What be interesting would be the XF 18mm 2 vs the 16mm 2.8.
Would love to see this.
Everything I've read about the 18mm is not so good compared to the other wides. Really interested in that lens until you compare the price to the 16mm 2.8. The 16mm is weather sealed, has a quieter and more accurate auto focus system and is significantly cheaper and apparently sharper. Here in the UK it's about £500 for teh 18mm and £300 for the 16mm 2.8
I love my 18mm. Damn its reputation.
@@MikeScammon same here. I don't understand the hate.
Great vid as always
As a street shooter the 2.8 is what I’m going to get but dam that 1.4 is nice! But hey with the 500 left over I’m also going to pick up the 23 !
Fantastic and useful video....as ever...thank you.
Great video, thanks for making this. Two minor notes: 1) the difference between f1.4 and f2.8 is 2 full stops, not 1.5. 2) the 18mm f2 lens is also smaller dimensionally than the 16mm f2.8. Cheers!
Thanks Joel
What a great review! I love your rationale for IQ not being everything and I share your love of the 16mm f1.4. Even I could tell it was a special lens. Unfortunately I sold mine because I just had too many lenses and as I was offered a good price for it ......
Anyway, I'm after a video lens in that ball park so I've ordered teh f2.8 but now I wish I had my 1.4 back!!
Totally agree with your comment on IQ. Love my 16mm 1.4 though; not likely to swap. Your vid confirmed this.
13:24 - Year 2020
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This video felt like a return to form with concentrated content. :)
Been a Fuji shooter off and on for past 10 years and recently got the XT3 for video and saw everyone raving about the 16mm 1.4 so decided to pick one up. So far it seems to have something about it that makes it stand out from the other lenses similar to my 35mm 1.4. I already have the 23mm 2.0 so don't think I will be getting the 16mm 2.8. Would be more tempting had it been 2.0
Good comparison, I love the 1.4. As I'm contemplating my next purchases, I'd love to see a video that compares the Fuji prime lens fields of view. Can't seem to find one on YT. So, a tripod, a subject, and 16/23/35/50/56/80/90 lenses (you still have most of those, right?!) along with how far the camera is from the subject would be awesome.
My "what Fuji lens to buy first" video gets a few of these
I have a very good copy of 16/1.4 but I want also the f2.8. I use my Fujifilm set mostly for alpinisme and see kayaking (in a water proof case). The question is the weight. I build now up my f2 - f2.8 light prime series. I have already the 23/2 but the next will be the 16/2.8.
really good review!
I loooove your broll as always. The way you cut to the music rocks. And man those red rocks are sooooo beautiful. Love it!!
Id love a comparison of the kit lens at 18mmf2.8 vs the 16mmf2.8
wow so cool work!
The 27mm f2.8 is an absolute pleasure. The sharpness is out of this world. Best walk-around lens imo - but I have yet to try the 16mm f2.8
fyi, the 27mm is about 70 dollars in AU camera pro lol, spectacular value
I agree. The 27 is a sleeper. Keep it mid-aperture & results are excellent.
Hola Andrew, excelente tu presentación comparativa de ambas lentes, me quedó muy claro cual es la que necesito comprar. Todos los aspectos que trataste sobre una y otra fueron muy necesarios y la información proporcionada por ti, lograste complementar perfectamente ofreciendo los pro y los contra de cada objetivo fotográfico. Gracias
other RUclipsrs saying sorry for the echo but this guy just talking in front of a waterfall
Love your channel, love the video, very balanced! Just thought I'd point out a small detail: The difference between 1.4 and 2.8 is not 1.5 stops of light as you mentioned, it's actually 2 stops. I assume it was just a slip of tongue, but I'd say it's a bit significant for people deciding between the two.
A rule of thumb for those who are curious: Aperture follows an exponential scale where the number doubles every two stops, meaning if you start at f/1, going up whole stops gives you f/1.4, f/2 (two times f/1), f/2.8 (two times f/1.4), f/4, f/5.6, f/8 and so forth :p
Thanks for the reminder
I love this review. I love all your reviews. Very honest and detailed. I was debating over these two for a while and in the end, my needs led me to the 2.8 version. I am so happy with my choice and I rented the 1.4 to be sure. While I love the pluses you defined on the 1.4 and the shooting day I had with it, I agree with getting the RIGHT lens for your style of shooting and pocketbook. I will be using this primarily for travel and street photography as I lean more on my 10-24 f4 for landscapes. Thank you for the excellent comparison and advice. For the record, I do watch other reviews, but I almost never make a purchase without consulting YOURS first. :) Thanks and Keep 'em coming!
High praise. Thanks Tammy
That 16 2.8 looks so cute with hood.
I would love to see the 16mm f1.4 updated with a quieter focusing motor. I am returning the 16mm f2.8 because of the focus hunting for video, even when it was on a tripod.
Great review! I've been shooting the 1.4 for 2 years now... what's your opinion for best landscape lens Fuji offers? Cheers
Been waiting for this video. I rented the 2.8 a couple of months ago. Loved it and will be picking it up most likely.
Thank you for the video. 16mm 1.4 is what I'm gonna get. I do street photography mainly at night in Bangkok. Thanks
Can you compare 16mm f2.8 to 14mm f2.8 in terms of IQ and handling?
You said the 16mm f2.8 is wider than the 16mm f1.4; is it closer to 14mm wide or 16mm f1.4 wide ?
Greate comparision! Thanks a lot! At 13:04 - I can not see any significant differences in focus breathing. It looks for me as if 16mm F2.8 doesn't have it like 16mm F1.4.
I think 16 2.8 is better to use with XT30/20 series on the street, where the light is good and you want something light and compact.
Whereas 16 1.4 is better for indoor, close up for detail.
I have both, the f1.4 is in a different league!!!
I did a test comparing a full frame 24 mm 1.8 G Nikon on a full frame body (D750) vs the 16 / 2.8 on a Fuji body (XE-2S), and it seems to me that the Fuji 16 mm is atleast 5 degrees wider (not a real measurement, just an estimate I made by eye). It places the 16 2.8 somewhere in between the 14 2.8 (21 mm equivalent) and a 24 mm equivalent (16 1.4). My suspicion is that the 16 2.8 is like a 22 mm or 22.5 mm equivalent.
I had the 16mm 2.8 first and literally got the 16mm 1.4 few days ago. I can say that they are both very different lenses for very different purposes. I don’t feel silly for having both.
2.8 for more video focused work
1.4 for low light photography like events and weddings
Hi, nice video. Which lens do you recommend for wild angle landscape and architectural photography on a XT-30? In addition if we can do wild angle portrait that nice. Should I go for a Fujinon 16mm 1,4 or the manuel focus Laowa 9mm 2,8 for fuji? I am concidering both but not sure which one will be more useful. Or another tie breaker?
16 1.4 is a good semi macro lens and I use it for stills while the 16 2.8 I use for video. Best to have both...that way you have the advantages of both.
Quiet AF? LOL - I had two copies and both were louder than my other "Fujicron" lenses. I had bad experiences with the 16 2.8 unfortunately...particularly auto focus issues using the XT2, it often failed to focus for no reason so I ended up returning it for a full refund. I think it can be better with a firmware update. But I feel like the lens was rushed. I will agree with you though, it was sharp as heck and the contrast for b&w was absolutely crazy! Great review Andrew.
Thanks for this video! I am intrigued with your opening statement that if you are a landscape photographer, these are not the lenses you would choose. Curious, what do you prefer on Fuji X for landscape? I am undecided about a zoom (and maybe even the kit) or a wide prime and the 16mm range prime since most of my landscape on my Canon is in the range of 20-24.
My point was just that if you plan to be primarily a landscape photographer, you don't need some of the benefits a prime lens gives you (specifically low aperture number) because you're shooting in higher apertures (f8-f16). And at those apertures most Fuji lenses to be very sharp, you get no advantage from shooting with a prime for IQ. But flexibility of a zoom is very important. You never really know ahead of time what a scene will offer to you, and you need as much flexibility to compose as possible. Having said that, I shoot plenty of landscape with my 16mm lenses, simply because they are what I have. But I am also a documentary photographer first, landscape photographer second. Or maybe more like 5th. :)
I like to shoot relay wide and my fav in the fuji X series is the 14mm.2.8.The 16mm 1.4 is a little narrow and to heavy for me,it reminds me of a old big SLR camera lenses weight, who i went away from.
If you like the 16mm F1.4 for the close focusing distance, you should try the Laowa 15mm Macro lens
My comments are admittedly trivial, but... I have a Pro3 and three "Fujicrons," for it. Great for street work, i.e., during the day. But I really like shooting ARCRO in the evening or at night and for that I bought an X-H1 (still the best buy right now anywhere.) For that large body I prefer the faster but larger lenses. I have the 35 f1.4, 56 F1.2 and 90. I was needing something wider, so, what to do?
I think you may have either gotten a off copy of the 16mm f1.4. No one likes to hear that but I'm speculating. Other tests I've seen rate the f1.4 version the best Fuji lens hands down and after breaking the tie got one and agree. The trivial part that I mentioned is that the f1.4 version just fits the H1 where the f2.8 version looks silly. I know...don't say it. I guess I won't mention the cool looking lens hood that's available then.
Since I wanted the most versatility with the 16mm focal length I went with the f1.4 for better IQ (in my experience) but also for that extra TWO full stops of speed. I like my night shots to have as little noise as possible. F1.4 backed up by IBIS is fantastic. Two stops for me is worth $500, and the 1:4 near macro doesn't hurt either. I would NOT buy a lens because of the really cool looking square lens hood I could get. Really. No, really. Why are you looking at me?
Some like Fuji's version of noise and it does render it very cleverly as grain, I get that. I just don't if I can help it...so I helped it with the unexpected Christmas bonus from my company which just happened to be $500. I took this as a clear sign from God. He knows Protestants have difficulty spending money on luxury items and I'm no exception. If I don't have a plausible utilitarian reason then I make one up and by the time I get home from the store I actually believe it.
Besides, I like looking at the front of that huge glass and expecting HAL from the movie, 2001, to ask if there is anything he can do for me. "Thank you for asking, HAL Yes there is. We're leaving the ship tonight to collect photographic samples of the inhabitants of the planet below and I'm depending on you to be enthusiastic about the mission."
I found the 2.8 to have more yellow than the 1.4 in the images you presented, especially the river shoot.
Xpro body with that 2.8 is a killer combo, especially as a travel camera where you'll be shooting wide scenes/landscapes and you want that wide field of view and don't want all that weight of the 1.4. Honestly the 2.8 should appeal to everyone, if you make money with your gear then go with the 1.4
I am choosing one of these lenses for my architectural photography work. Is there any lens distortion issue with the F2.8 compare to the 1.4? Because I need lines to be as straight as possible for architecture shooting. I owned the F1.4 lens previous and ,other than size, this is an amazing lens.
I own the XF-35mm f1.4 and I noticed that I barely use/need it wide open. Adding that to the price and the size of the 16mm siblings the f2.8 was my choice.
I don’t mind the manual focus “issue” since I prefer to use it at f8 with the focus point about 3m away (hyperfocal distance) anyway.
Morning is when all the best stuff happens!
Great review old chap
Which gimbal would be the best for the X-T3? Cheers!
Andrew's cap game is strong.. also you are right. The 16/1.4 is less sharp around the edges... Such a bummer..
Great video.
What camera do you shoot the video from?
what the chromatic abberration and the instigation of the reverberation in the station for the information
Hi thank you for another great comparison. quick question, what kind of tripod are you using in the video?
It's a benro
What about chromatic aberrations?
The 16 1.4 has (at least mine lens) a lot of problem with that, exatly in low light situations at 1.4 i get tons of aberrations, also i read about COMA problems, and i've seen that too on my shots.
Hey.. just quick question...
Fuzi 16.mm 2.8 vs fuzi 16 to 55 mm 2.8 at 16.mm are both same. Specially at close focus??? I am looking for new fuzi xs 10.
Is it possible the 16mm is wider because it's shorter? Thank you for your informative videos.
I think the micro contrast is better on the newer lenses, they really pop. I can live with the darker vignetting
I wonder if the length of the 2.8 lens lends it to be a bit wider than the 1.4.
Does the Fuji XS-10 with IBIS eliminate the 1.4 advantage indoor in low light? As yu can use the 2.8 and significantly lower shutter speeds.
I guess it comes down to what you photograph as to witch lens will work best, for the people that say it is a large or heavy lens should spend some time photographing with a camera like the Pentax K1 MKII with the 24-70 f2.8 or any prime like the Pentax 85mm f1.4. That is a heavy setup. I don't have the 85mm but I do have the 24-70 along with Pentax and Sigma primes and zoom lenses I used for event photography so the XT5 with the 16mm f1.4 is light weight in comparison.
Great, I will go for 2.8.
Awesome video, love that you mentioned colors. Most people don’t bring that up. Do you ever struggle with the colors being different between the 1.4s vs f2s since you have a mixed bag?
The differences are extremely subtle. Only something I noticed after comparing six different headshots taken on both 1.2 and f2s (and several others). Most people would not see the difference and I can't think of a time it would really matter.
I was just thinking today that I haven’t seen a video from you in awhile
Jay Macro Photos did we ever find out who won that lens from the giveaway video?
JoeyShip I don’t remember seeing a winner
Jay Macro Photos so you’re saying I still have a chance...haha.
JoeyShip lol yep
Hey folks, I have a problem.
I had the 35mm 1.4 from the start of my fuji-life but I bought the 35mm 2 lately and the plan was to figure out which lens to sell and to keep the better one.
I love the small size and the looks of the 35mm 2 and the much quicker auto focus. And it is also not as noisy. (But still kinda noisy...)
The 35mm 1.4 looks a bit shotty (but still cool) and the auto focus sounds like it's broken. But I also totally love the image look.
I can't decide!
I need help!
ThisIsWideAngle Do you shoot a lot of indoor or event with bad light or need bokeh? 35 1.4. Do you usually shoot in good light and need something more oriented for getting quick shots like on the street or in rain? 35 2. Nothing wrong with having both if your budget allows.
Nice to see a detailed comparison of the two, although I have to playfully ask.... There seems to be one thing missing... Which one takes the nicer photos of motorcycles? ^_^
I may never know. Selling the bike :(
Andrew, a random thought on true focal length of the ‘15’ mm f2.8 you discovered. When comparing it to the 10-24mm (and of course the prime is better) to get the same size frame, with my test shots I had to set the zoom to 14mm! Would be interesting to see what focal lengths we are actually buying and why don’t manufacturers just state what they are rather than conforming to the old statutory focal lengths of 18, 24, 35, to 50mm etc. I don’t mind buying a 17mm wide angle, or even a 15mm. Just a thought.
Very interesting!
Where would you need to set the zoom to overlap with the 14mm prime.
mmgull Having used the 14mm (crop) a few years ago I never felt it was as wide as my Nikon 21mm (35mm equiv.) so I would guess around 13mm on the 10-24.
The way in which you use your 16mm f1.4 is the reason I'm so torn between the two "16"mm options. I LOVE getting close and I want a wider, indoor capable lens, but I also long for something that is compact... Also worth noting, the 16mm f1.4 is priced very well on the used market, and really only about $200 more than a used 16mm f2.8.
I was thinking on buying the 16-55 f2.8 for versatility, with that one I can shoot pretty much everything, but don' know if eventually would be better to instead get the 10-24 for landscape and the 16 f1.4. I know both are $1K lenses. I have already the 23 f2 and 35 f1.4, so it would also mean selling one of those two. Was looking for some advise, hopefully.
I am really an enthusiast. I do not profit from this hobbie on a regular basis and I prefer to shoot mainly landscape but I like shooting everything, really (portraits not so much).
What ND filter are you using for the 16mm f1.4 lens?
Was thinking the 16mm f2.8 for landscape, but you say there is much better options for landscape. What would you suggest? 14mm f2.8? 18mm f2? Or do you rec a zoom? I have the 18-55mm kit already, but looking for something a bit wider.
awesome - got more film vids coming up? Actually I really feel like shooting film but gotta wait for the year to be over lol
Definitely. :)
1.4 is a 2-stop difference from 2.8, not a stop and a half. Good review, just saying. Cheers :)