Viltrox 13mm f1.4 vs Zeiss 12mm f2.8: The Must Own Fuji Lens
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
- What is Fujifilm's best wide prime lens? Fuji's widest prime is actually the 14mm f2.8 released back in 2012! If you want wider, you either have to go with their slow 10-24mm f4 zoom, or the giant and expensive 8-16mm f2.8. That or 3rd party lenses like the Samyang 12mm f2. But the best lenses with the highest fidelity, 3d pop, micro contrast and Toneh, are the Zeiss 12mm f2.8 vs the Viltrox 13mm f1.4. Let's test the autofocus, stabilization, 3d pop, low light, toneh and bokeh, sharpness and character.
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Not used the Zeiss but Viltrox 13 is actually a perfect lens. No breathing, sharp even wide open, has filter thread, silent autofocus, not too heavy and not even expensive!
Fuji users: we really want a 10mm or 12mm f2 (or faster) prime.... Fuji: we hear you loud and clear.. 8mm f3.5 in 2023, that's what you asked for, right?
Fuji: Here’s a 8mm f3.5 and you’re gonna love it.
Ttartisan has a good 10mm f2
i bought the viltrox recently and its absolutely wild how sharp it is even compared to a lot of fuji lenses
viltrox 13mm wins (for me) 😊
Dude, that segment with Eclectic Phoenix was gold
I really wanna find that guy…
the segue' to the fun and games guru was priceless. You know Casey, I have to give you credit for including that. Lots of people would have been annoyed at the interruption, but you went with it-very cool!!
Such a great and enjoyable review. I appreciate the comparisons that actually made for a true informed choice. Also, just enjoyable. Thank you.
Casey, let me break it down for you. The 3D POP is basically a psychological effect created in your mind when you splurged that extra cash on something that's not worth it. :)
It's not. I don't buy 3d pop lenses anymore, but it's essentially micro contrast and fast out of focus roll off.
@@-grey I’ve seen in reviews that certain lenses have nice smooth roll off, the 56 1.2 for example I think, and they say it like it’s a good thing. Is it just personal preference?
@@b3arodactyl Yes. Smooth roll off looks high quality to me. Fast roll off looks like a cheap planar lens to me. It is one of those things that falls under "character vs clinical". A lot of people like character because it feels like a time, communicates an ambiance. This is why big movie productions will purposely mess up high quality lenses to get swirly bokeh, fast fall off, or vignetting. It feels more authentic, like the film days.
You ruined his life philosophy. Shad up 😌😆😜
Damn, you're right on time !!
I was looking for this 13mm Viltrox...
Always great to know your thoughts, dear red-shirt-genius ! ;-))
Thank you very much for your time and words and arm movements.
If you stop the viltrox down to f2 it has the 3D pop, and the colour saturation and contrast is excellent to rival anything at that focal length. I think you lose a bit of pop at f1.4 because it's difficult to make a fast wide prime that is sharp wide open, while simultaneously retaining the micro tonal contrast (pop). I really like to use the Viltrox at f2.4, I think that is its sweetspot.
I just got the Zeiss for $ 500 new. I hope the difference in color rendition and construction quality can pay for the f/2.8 vs f/1.4 and the combustion engine focusing motor…
Thanks for all your good input on these lenses.
The outside shots sealed it for me. Already own the Viltrox 33mm, autofocus is key & the 13mm nails that, as well. Goody.
Maannn not the first time I’m stumble on your video but now I have to subscribe. So cheering vibish review. Those 20minutes were better than any Netflix episode
Outstanding video. Entertaining and a ton of good info. I am a new fan. SUBBED!!!
"life is all about fun". Ironically nearly got killed a minute later 11:32
Thank you, I was thinking about getting fujiflim 14mm f2.8 lens this morning, now I move to viltrox 😊
Viltrox is doing really good. I got the 23mm 1.4 for video and is amazing. Sometimes I don't know what to choose to shoot, the Viltrox 23mm 1.4 or the Fuji XC 35mm 2.0.
Those Zeiss lenses have a unique look to them but that Viltrox shined a few times. Always enjoy the videos buddy. Sometimes I try to ruffle your feathers, but it's all in good fun. Lol.
The smaller the sensor the less pop there will be. Go check 6x7 medium format photos and your mind will blow off. It s a matter of having more compression for the same focal lenght ;)
Ie: mamiya/pentax 100mm is equiv to 50mm on ff, but still have the 100mm compression.
For some reasons, leica and zeiss can bring some of that to ff because of their lesser element count constructions and bokeh transtion.
Cheers
I left a comment about the Contax 120mm macro for the Contax 645 2 1/4 above. That was the 3D lens to have. Especially noticed with transparencies.
Suprised you didn't ask The Church of Fun and Love" what he is going to be filming on Kasey. Come on! Missed opportunity, lol Long time Patreon supporter. Love your content.
Finally!!!! Long waited video
He's too nice to tell the guy he's using the wrong word. "Kind of, yeah. A moving, walking, video podcast." Lol.
The Zeiss color though is really nice
Zeiss image is absolutely better than that of Viltrox. Anyone who thinks it's "distortion" is deluding himself. Voigtlander is the best. Similarly my zeiss batis clearly shows better than my Sony 35mm GM. The sharper lenses produce clinical and boring images. Ugly even.
I have the VILTROX and so far I’m loving it!
Educational and entertaining. Thank you
like your style 👍. Thanks for the comparison.
Love the video!
Hey Casey, if you have a chance, please try some of the Helios lenses. They are famous for swirly bokeh and 3d pop combined!
Voigtlander also makes two lenses for Fuji which are supposed to be good (23 and 35mm 1.2)
Love your videos! Someone should hire you!
Viltrox. The toneh is just too good to overcome!
Viltrox seems the better option, the lack of "3D" is mostly the corrected distortion, if you distort it a tiny bit and illuminate appropiately it will do it plus it's faster which is always better.
Also some old lenses with tons of elements can pop because they did not distort correct, it's all about lighting and it is a skill to reach for it and see it.
lots of zeiss, voight, leica lenses have MAD FIELD CURVATURE with midframe and/or edges taking a back seat to center so boom that's where the pop is, but they suck for landscape and architecture, good for portraits
@@50shadesofNV Well said although i would say some do have both "pop" and lack of massive distortion, for example the 105mm 2.5 Nikkor with the Double Gauss design. Corners are okayish for an old lens but midframe and center are good, blur quality in both fore and background is excellent and distortion is pretty small, you can shoot verticals no problem although not saying much in a telephoto. The Tokina 90mm 2.5 is also similar one but that one has even less distortion, you can scan with it too.
The problem is a good popping wide angle lens, the Zeiss 21mm Distagon is a great lens albeit pretty expensive for what it is and that's about it, the 35mm Nikkors are not quite as decent but i've heard good things of the 24mm Canon EF lenses.
@@bearbearingston7696 SOLID POINTS, yeah, hard to find that MAGIC pop on wide angles, also the Fuji 16 F1.4 OLDIE LENS
TAKE ME TO THE CHURCH OF FUN PLEASE
Such quality content!
Glad you gave the Viltrox another chance! Got it for a couple of weeks now. At the beginning I wasn’t a big fan, because it’s a little bit shaky with the X-S10. But for vlogging with 13mm (had the 18-55 before) it’s such an upgrade as well as for low light. At this price point it’s the best wide angle for Fuji right now 👍🏻
even better than xf 16mm f 1.4?
@@TheBhezard dont know, never used the 16mm because it’s not wide enough for vlogging imo
Boom! I have the Viltrox. Heavy, but good AF for photography. Shot it out (1000+ photos) in Boston this summer . Reliable, few misses. I concur about the green. Not abhorrent mostly fixable in photos. edit:spelling
All I want is the perfect 3D pop! Viltrox was shockingly good!
Love the viltrox. Great for landscape.
I’ve had the Zeiss for years, on Sony, and it’s excellent for landscapes.
I'm not seeing the need for the Zeiss at almost double the price. The difference just would not be worth it for me. Interesting compo man! Thank you!
I’d love to see you do your own head to head with the X-H2s vs X-H2
Lol. Made my day with the lowlight toilet troll! 😂😂😂
Hi Kasey, the Viltrox is indeed a 3d pop lens.. at least looking via my ipad at 2160p.. stunning.. i agree..
Man, I could listen to and watch the slow mo people on the street forever. Love your beats man. Also, Zeiss wins for colors, Viltrox for everything else in my opinion.
I have a full video on that coming next week :)
@@cameraconspiracies Hell yeah! Keep up the good work. You crack me up daily. Sadly I sit here with nothing but an old Nikon D3200, so almost nothing you talk about is relevant to me, but I don't care because it's so damn entertaining. You've got me searching for used X-T4s though.... Thanks for that....
The colors and contrast on the Zeiss are just so nice, I can’t afford it but those bee shots the bokeh was so pleasing and overall just less distracting and feels like you’re actually in the world. Viltrox almost felt like the iPhone portrait mode digital blur lol, so disconnected from reality
Do you have it? No?
Question: do you believe in the phenomena of SLOW POP? (The condition wherein one must lust so badly for 3d pop that one begins to see pop slowly over time even when lens has no pop.)
Hey! 18-135mm for Fuji, any thought?
I liked the Zeiss.. something about the skin tones pleased my plebeian rods & cones
I was so close for getting returning my X-T4 for an X-H2s and thankfully I won't be doing that! I feel the X-H2s will have it's place but I do wonder what the regular X-H2 would be like overall as a hybrid camera especially against the X-T4 and new coming X-T5
Eclectic phoenix was popping out of my TV. Zeiss for me
From estetic point of view Zeiss is more filmic like (looks more natural and pleasing to the eye) vs Viltrox sterile image. There is clearly contrast advantage on the Zeiss lens.
I really need "3D pop" and "micro contrast" properly defined and demonstrated. I know a certain crackpot creep likes to throw around those terms.
"you cant get worse than that" LMFAOOOOOO omg that was a sneaky good one mate... hahahah you're seriously lowkey GOATed
Zeiss had much better color and a bit more of the separation
Dang, I kinda miss when Fuji made the subject toneh every other minute -- really gave the system some character 😂
Those slomo bee shots were amazing!
Man that 12mm samyang is only $400 right now and its the lightest. I might go for that one. my widest fuji is the 18 F2
Can you Use the arca swiss plates on the Ulanzi quick release ? or are they incompatible ?
Good question +1
@@bradl2636 curious about the actual PD plates (I’d assume so since they rip them off)
I’m starting to see the 3D. I think it has something to do with the type of toneh that the lens produces. The Scientologists must have gotten to me somehow.
The stabilization frankly was fine o the Fuji. It was totally acceptable and watchable.
im liking the viltrox here...looks good
Xh2s seemed to have less floppy conner on wider lens. Will you get the xh2?
I've got a theory about pop that I'd like evidence for or against.... It seems to me that the images without 3D pop feel as though they have a quite square-edged depth of field and the unfocussed areas seem uniformly out of focus. (I know they're not, but they seem it..) Whereas the poppy images seem to smoothly go out of focus with distance. ???
Viltrox 13mm is the first lens I've bought on my first camera. It's a no brainer.
The sad thing Kasey is that you're not going to see the 3D pop on small LED screens through YT mathematics.
However. My neighbor showed me some fire truck shots he took of some across the street from me on his new Iphone. I was knocked out. The screen....so not the screen as much as youtube. Then again, always wait a day to view high res youtubes.
Ok ‘cause nobody else is brave enough to admit they are an ignorant sod… what is “YT mathematics”? I might know this by another name.
Still looking for the answer on what is the best glass to view the glass that is taking all these poppy pictures.
Have the viltrox 13mm its magnificent it's high end compared to rest viltrox glass.
The Viltrox looks really nice and its worth is way higher its price tag!
This is definetly one of the reviews.
Very important topic
The Vitrox is good but not great. If you can afford, just go for the Zeiss. There's a reason why it is much more expensive.
Just saved me money, thank you sir! Have the Zeiss 32mm & I believe I am the only person who loves it. Would the Viltrox still render ok on x-h2? Why does mega pixels effect lens out put? Damn so many questions in life don’t you think?
You should invite Eclectic to the next review. Asking a person who doesn’t know much about photography equipment and photography which “image” looks better for him would be the final verdict on your video. We buy whatever Eclectic tells us what’s best 😅
Zeiss definitely have more 3D pop, maybe not the 3D popiest zeiss. Colors looks more pleasing.. and toneh is less distracting
You need to get that Phoenix for the show
I wasn’t aware Fuji actually made a lens that was BEST…😂
I will watch this later when I’m allowed 😉
Love that guy, I smiled, kind soul. Phinics good luck.
I shoot corporate and non-profit documentaries. Do you think the xt4 or xh2s autofocus are usable for run and gun broll / doc shooting? What lenses would you pair?
Morning.. I hope your friday morning is going swell ...
Zeiss is better.in term of color & depth rendition. The color more vibrant,less distortion,no ghosting/glaring or flare on back light..The sunstar on the high number aperture is sharp & pronounced,the min focus is better than the viltrox.overall it's a great wide lens for Fujifilm.love it 👍🏼
Of course doesn't have same 3D pop compare to Voigtlander lens becase there's different lighting scenarios and/or probably more vignete on the lav microphone muff shot. That's why lighting is such an powerful tool.
Sorry phoenix we are already followers of the great 3D pop
I vaguely remember seeing a Fuji 8mm f3.5 on the updated roadmap recently... which means we will probably see it in 2027
Hey, lower the volume of your voice even more compared to the intro, it's pleasant af.
Even though Fuji shooters are the great unwashed of the imaging world that Viltrox looks pretty good to me.
Can Viltrox make us a Sigma 18-35 native X mount lens? That would be neat of them.
Curious if he would review that lens, crazy that there’s 1.8 zooms
@@b3arodactyl need to make f1 zooms and quite hamstringing us 😆
The thing about 1.4? Just gives you pictures that cant be done with other lenses, and improves the quality of pictures that you can do with others.
One more thing, please please please can we have more Angry Dad walking scenes, they’re the best of your newer content, just like the OG Cripple Hammer and Movie scenes were! Angry Dad walking all the way!!!
"3D pop" is simply the added feeling of dimensionality. To get that feeling you need an exceptionally sharp lens and sufficient depth of field. How the scene is staged will also matter too as you prefferably want as much front to back sharpness as possible throughout the image. This is probably easier with photos. But I imagine if you also added further seperation through lighting you could achieve a similar effect. Finaly compression will also ruin this effect.
Tamron was very sharp and had 2.8 and had less 3D pop than 16-35 zeiss
review the pentax 28mm pls
Is this 4k SDI, 3,840 vertical lines, and 2,160 horizontal lines?
The Viltrox just ‘looks’ so much nicer than the Ziess. Who would have thought?
How about comparing Viltrox 13mm f1.4 vs Zeiss 12mm f2.8 vs Fujifilm 8mm f3.5?
You gotta love this man! 😂
the zeiss looks better to my eye !
As a looser, hobo photographer, I will never understand 3-D pop. That being said, I'd be curious if you find pop in the Fuji 18mm f/1.4. I know its a little tight for vloging, but I would be curious to see a "Pop Study" on this lens.
I use a Nikon Z62 with the 24-70 F/4 kit lens and I was wondering if you could recommend a filter for using it as a webcam/teleconference camera. I have South and West facing windows in my home office, and I also have a fishtank with a very blue light. Thanks so much for your channels, you make me happy! I also bought a tripod using your link and code. Also, if your suggestion is to get a real lens like the NIKKOR Z 20mm f/1.8 S and you just happened to have an affiliate link "in the description below" when you include this comment in your next answering scrub photographers questions video, I just might have to pick it up.
Gettin Jesus-y out here. You and C Frost should collab
At first I thought I liked the Zeiss better, but I don't think so. It makes everything orange. My big decision is xf 14/2.8 or Viltrox 13mm. I want the small size, but also the faster lens...lol.