Woke Pastor vs. Sean McDowell???? | FTMonthly 18
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- January's FTMonthly Josh tackles a recent dialogue about LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church between @SeanMcDowell and Brandan Robertson, Why a 400 pound woman is suing Lyft and more.
"Woke" in this title refers to the fact that people have chastised Sean for having Robertson on by saying things about Robertson like why have a "woke heretic" on your show. It is not intended as pejorative.
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Original videos:
Andrew Wilson-Brandan Robertson debate: www.youtube.co... (explicit language)
Sean McDowell-Brandan Robertson conversation: • Queer & Christian - Br...
Sean McDowell-Preston Sprinkle conversation: • Christians and Gay Ide...
Jordan Peterson admits Jesus is God? - • Jordan B Peterson: You...
Gayle Rubin "Thinking Sex" essay: bpb-us-e2.wpmu...
Michel Foucault on pederasty: thecritic.co.u...
Michel Foucault petition against age of consent laws: en.wikipedia.o....
Woman sues Lyft: nypost.com/202...
Discarded IVF Jewelry: protestia.com/...
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I really appreciate this discussion about the conversation between Sean and Brandon. Thanks for your insight.
Great neccessary content Josh!
Sean did a great job not only exposing both Preston and Brandon's theology, but refuting both worldviews.
Brandon seems to be a new kind of preogressive in which he is willing to "bite the bullet" of his ideology taken to its logical conclusions-but he is unashamedly bold about imposing it on the church.
I just got to the end about IVF and really appreciated what you said, but a question came up in my mind. A friend of mine recently adopted an embryo and gave birth to a sweet baby girl. At first, I thought "wow that's amazing." But the more I think about it, I wonder what that child will do in 20 years...will she search for her parents and siblings, and how will she feel about that. Maybe you guys have covered that topic and I missed it. What are your thoughts on IVF adoption?
It seems to us that IVF adoption could be a noble endeavor considering the other option for the unused embryo is only to be discarded. While a Christian isn't required to do so it would seem that it is not ethically immoral to do so you save the live and provide the child with an opportunity to live and grow with "adopted" parents.
This is referenced in your own post, the child in question GETS TO live 20 years and then perhaps search for her "biological" parents, without the adoption she would never live at all to get that opportunity.
Josh did not address this in the video thanks for asking!
I think this might have to do with the T in TULIP, the notion that sin has ontologocal being and is an innnate part of identity, rather than being a deficiency of holiness.
Josh, it is highly disappointing that you labeled your video "woke pastor vs Sean McDowell????" That is dehumanizing, because that "woke pastor" has a name, Brandan Robertson. Though you disagree with things that he believes to be true, you can still be respectful of him as a person created in God's image.
The point of the title is that people were upset with Sean for having Brandan on his channel as a "woke" pastor. Josh's point, at the very beginning of the episode was that people should not be upset at Sean for having a conversation with Brandan on his channel. Also, Josh never called Brandan woke in the episode and sought to be respectful while dealing with Brandan's assertions while also seeking to prove them wrong, sometimes pointedly.
The question marks in the title are meant to indicate this very thing. Finally, Brandan has not historically run from the label himself, even posting that God is Woke on Twitter before. Also, note that the use of the word "woke" is addressed in the description of the video.
Thanks for the comment.