MechWarrior Online Review

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @MandaloreGaming
    @MandaloreGaming  7 лет назад +640

    THE LIST - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_K3ziSxT9zcUUGCddS4sF1uNJTWHSbOwB1CQX2Rx4Uo
    Check out Living Legends: wiki.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/How_to_Install_MWLL
    Their Discord Server: discord.gg/cFKhbdr
    Since the video, the supply cache system has been reworked to reward level progression more and be less convoluted. Also the audio intro is different due to copyright bots.

    • @tonzillaye
      @tonzillaye 7 лет назад +29

      Praise be to the living legends link.

    • @ThePolistiren
      @ThePolistiren 7 лет назад +6

      You Are Empty - Communist budget shooter with art-game elements; really unique in its own way
      The Creed - good luck even finding it on google; dosquest has the only uploads about it on RUclips

    • @Tumoxa89
      @Tumoxa89 7 лет назад +6

      Dawn of War series, daddy please.

    • @morbo5135
      @morbo5135 7 лет назад +7

      So glad you talked about MWLL. You can use this to check playercount - stats.spikx.net/mwll.html (Download links at bottom)
      It doesn't look good, like Mandalore said, the community is SMALL. But I don't think a single day has gone by without a game going.

    • @markmulligan2280
      @markmulligan2280 7 лет назад

      Why not try Borderlands 1 and 2? Or Jet Set Radio and Future?

  • @fl4shblade
    @fl4shblade 7 лет назад +2218

    IMPORTANT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
    Our playerbase already gets a healthy influx because of this vid, but a misunderstanding has arisen!
    DO NOT BUY ANY COPY OF CRYSIS WARS. OUR GAME DOESN'T REQUIRE IT. IT DOESN'T EVEN WORK WITH THE FULL VERSION OF CRYSIS WARS. OUR GAME USES THE CRYSIS WARS DEMO AS A BASE AND IS AS MANDALORE STATED COMPLETELY FREE!

    • @Ms360box
      @Ms360box 7 лет назад +55

      fl4shblade thx for the info very useful!

    • @morbo5135
      @morbo5135 7 лет назад +4

      Presumably the whole system used to circumvent gamespy's shutdown, using something along the lines of gameranger but not. You used to have to type a specific login/password before getting to the in-game server browser (Why I stopped playing - it was inconsistent for me), now it does it all automatically or is completely bypassed

    • @algernonilfracombe
      @algernonilfracombe 6 лет назад +15

      @@Feroce To answer your questions- yes, there is a new version of MWLL that does NOT require any part of Crysis/ Crysis Wars to operate. It is now (as of December 2018) on version 0.10 and can be downloaded independently here: mechlivinglegends.net/ . Enjoy.

    • @Khorne_of_the_Hill
      @Khorne_of_the_Hill 4 года назад +4

      I can't believe i've never heard of this before now!

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek 4 года назад +6

      Does the game have independent damage models for the mech parts ?

  • @thomasderosso5625
    @thomasderosso5625 4 года назад +2719

    "Casual unscripted conversation" is the biggest red flag I've ever seen in my life, and I have a friend who brought back vacation photos from Beijing.

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 3 года назад +138

      That was killer.

    • @allot5530
      @allot5530 3 года назад +139

      That has to be in the most stupidest and yet clever joke I have ever heard

    • @sevenpolar3483
      @sevenpolar3483 3 года назад +225

      Not just a casual conversation, but a casual 'unscripted' conversation.
      He couldn't sound more suspect if he tried, he sounds like a murderer trying to get off on a technicality.

    • @andyhighroller8217
      @andyhighroller8217 2 года назад +6

      😂😂😂😂

    • @notinspectorgadget
      @notinspectorgadget 2 года назад +19

      What the hell does a "casual unscripted conversation" even mean?

  • @shammytv
    @shammytv 7 лет назад +3722

    Damn, those Living Legends modders sound pretty Legendary.

    • @ResskCSF
      @ResskCSF 7 лет назад +90

      They still are! .86 is out and .87 is on its way :D

    • @godisdead4416
      @godisdead4416 7 лет назад +70

      Shammy Since when do you hang around this neck of the woods, owl man?
      Nice to see two good reviewers in the one place

    • @Ssserpentus
      @Ssserpentus 7 лет назад +5

      :D

    • @trfsphone8509
      @trfsphone8509 7 лет назад +24

      Shammy you can say they're ... Living legends

    • @theleviathan2627
      @theleviathan2627 7 лет назад +1

      woah

  • @isaacjones7017
    @isaacjones7017 5 лет назад +2765

    "Australians bring banter to the servers"
    that's how you know this guy is a legit reveiwer

    • @JohnDoe-jn4bz
      @JohnDoe-jn4bz 5 лет назад +115

      I mean, he's not wrong. We DO bring the bants.

    • @DiamondCalibre
      @DiamondCalibre 5 лет назад +102

      the fact that he follows it up with comparing ping to jacob's ladder is just. ugh what a legend.

    • @madmanvarietyshow9605
      @madmanvarietyshow9605 5 лет назад +14

      Gotta love the /bantz/

    • @Khorne_of_the_Hill
      @Khorne_of_the_Hill 4 года назад +127

      Australians are always hugely entertaining lol
      I love how every time British people emigrate to a huge landmass with not much supervision, they just go completely insane

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 4 года назад +6

      Can confirm, bants are plentiful here.

  • @defaultkoala2922
    @defaultkoala2922 2 года назад +387

    I played this game for a short time. Long enough to build a tiny mech with massive laser weapons on it. It would overheat and destroy itself after 2 shots but If I hit right I could kill almost anything with it. Never found a game where I could build an actual glass cannon nearly as accurately.

    • @Lad-c51
      @Lad-c51 Год назад +15

      What you want is MechWarrior 5 with the YAML mod.
      Take a Charger, replace the small lasers with large ones and watch as your mech melts both the enemy and itself.
      Alternatively, you could just get a twin gauss mech to effectively create a headshot machine.

    • @vine01
      @vine01 Год назад +2

      @@Lad-c51 you started very well. MW5 with YAML. you lost it at Charger. even though there might be that one usable chassis, Chargers are trash :D with YAML suite you can build very fast sprinting assaults, Annihilators not excluded :)

    • @angryscotsman93
      @angryscotsman93 Год назад +2

      ​@vine01 chargers, sure. CUDGELS, on the other hand... i want to run a Cudgel with Triple Strength Myomer and MASC so damn bad.

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Год назад +4

      @@vine01​​⁠
      The standard charger is trash. With YAML you can make it amazing. I have a video, “Operation AHAB,” where I pilot my custom Charger CGR-1A1 “Blueshift” that is evidence enough of that claim.

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ 9 месяцев назад

      A charger will destroy you sugar, i promise ​@@vine01

  • @dokidokiduckie
    @dokidokiduckie 4 года назад +446

    The community for this game seemed genuinely fucking awesome. It's really, really rare to see people communicating and coordinating to that degree.

    • @ObiwanNekody
      @ObiwanNekody 2 года назад +11

      Pretty common that you have people that will explain WHY the decisions are being made like that, if you ask.

    • @Gaylent
      @Gaylent 2 года назад +18

      The only other place I've ever seen that kind of thing is private Arma 2/3 servers, where people make absurdly detailed custom missions and you like, elect or roll for commander, and sometimes they're even PVP missions, and mission briefings and strategy meetings take up the first 30 minutes of your 4 hour mission. That probably sounds boring and awful, but it was fun if you had a good mission. My favorite was one that was a team of 8 SEALS versus like 30 or 40 dudes, on a pitch black night mission. All the defenders had were flashlights and street lights and interior building lights, you couldn't see a fucking thing out in the woods in the perimeter without your highly limited aerial flares or your narrow weapon mounted flashlight. You did get two trucks with a floodlight on the back, though. So the goal was to defend a VIP from the SEAL assassins, and they could do shit like sabotage the power to cut the static lights, or just do it as a diversion. The SEALS got night vision and better weapons, though no sniper scopes (made it way too easy since the VIP had a unique model). Some of the most tense and amazing games ever on that map.
      Anyway, I'm so fucking tired of TDM lol.

    • @لمعان-ض9ع
      @لمعان-ض9ع Год назад

      @@Gaylent that sounds awesome

    • @Reziichu
      @Reziichu 7 месяцев назад

      I've been gaming for a very long time, and i love the communication in matches from other players.i don't get it from any other game... I feel like I'm actually part of a WHOLE and not just ONE man on a 12 man squad.

    • @miss_bec
      @miss_bec 3 месяца назад +1

      However many years later, and the community are still fantastic. Granted, the community is too small to be able to be rude, but... well, I like to imagine the love of big robots shooting the hell out of each other is enough to make everyone be friends just for a little while.

  • @NolePTR
    @NolePTR 7 лет назад +1459

    "It's like Caterpillar bought a Gundam factory."
    Best quote ever.

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 5 лет назад +4

      the battletech "Warhammer" was a copy of a Macrosse destroid Tomohawk.. oopsy lol

    • @javkiller
      @javkiller 3 года назад +21

      Not only it's the best quote, it's pretty much canon.

    • @protogenhorde8515
      @protogenhorde8515 3 года назад

      agreed lad

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal 2 года назад +9

      "It's not obvious, but now there's an additional knuckle joint on my tentacle thing."
      -Ross Scott

    • @carlnewcomer3156
      @carlnewcomer3156 2 года назад +4

      I use this to describe the setting to new players

  • @LMGunslinger
    @LMGunslinger 3 года назад +174

    This game has so much potential... something you should never say about a game as old as this.

  • @kdawg2468
    @kdawg2468 4 года назад +577

    A gaming community that actually works together is like a unicorn

    • @KeacePeeper
      @KeacePeeper 3 года назад +7

      pink and fluffy?

    • @kentrellwhittingham3751
      @kentrellwhittingham3751 2 года назад +14

      @@KeacePeeper Rare in nature

    • @TheXell
      @TheXell 2 года назад +1

      It involves virgins.

    • @ghostface5559
      @ghostface5559 2 года назад +1

      because most gamers are casuals that use gaming to unwind

    • @lollypop697
      @lollypop697 2 года назад +10

      @@ghostface5559 True, but that not an excuse to be braindead. You should always at least try during the game.

  • @SkywalkerWroc
    @SkywalkerWroc 2 года назад +76

    Hey,
    just discovered the channel. Happy to see the MWLL being mentioned in the video. I worked on MWLL for over 2 years, quit before MWO was announced, so I missed all the drama. BUT them keeping silent is no surprise, and your deduction is spot on.
    The MWLL team was always split, there were great, extremely helpful people that were out there just for fun and the love of the community. And there were people that were power-hungry and constantly trying to reaffirm their egos.
    Eventually, I just couldn't stand it and quit, they soaked all the fun I had with the mod.
    Eventually I got into MWO, right after it got released. I co-founded one of the largest clans, but the overwhelming corporate greed became too much at some point. Not to mention the fact that they always prioritized features over bugfixes. I tried MWO once again about 2 years ago, just to check how it plays... MY GOD, the bugfest it was.
    Honestly: The game was more fun and had a better new-player experience in the early days than it did few years into the development.
    It's astounding that it's now 2022 and MWO still lives. I really hope that they fired all of the managers and let developers work on the bugfixes, cause if not... I can't imagine the state of the game right now.

    • @LezbionestHere
      @LezbionestHere 2 года назад +14

      Yo! Start of last year they actually kicked their asses into gear. There has largely been a massive amount of rebalancing, making more mechs shine on their own, and there are regular bug fixes. My only complaint really is the sniper meta. It takes all the fun out of the game when blue lasers and AC/2s just rule everything. Its definitely entering a much more healthy state than it has been in... possibly ever. I come across a few bugs annually and the experience is overall really good.

  • @th3b33f
    @th3b33f 7 лет назад +2023

    it's an extremely okay videogame

    • @riv4lm4n
      @riv4lm4n 7 лет назад +11

      m

    • @MandaloreGaming
      @MandaloreGaming  7 лет назад +326

      I love your videos
      I watched a few of them earlier this week

    • @OruzeCruise
      @OruzeCruise 7 лет назад +33

      b33f♂next♂door

    • @AshyGr33n
      @AshyGr33n 7 лет назад +24

      praise the b33f

    • @AutoRiff
      @AutoRiff 7 лет назад +6

      That would have gone bad if they left it in the game without adding melee weapons. 3/4 of the fights end up in brawls, it would have been sooooo spammy and lame if everyone just got knocked down every fight. Hitreg was a huge issue and MWO has one of the most demanded requirements of hitreg in any game ever made. Each mech is like 7 players built into one, in terms of hitreg calculations.

  • @CartmanTuttle
    @CartmanTuttle 6 лет назад +602

    "It's like Caterpillar bought a Gundam Factory." I have never been able to explain the Mechwarrior artstyle until now. Thank you.

    • @pontiusporcius8430
      @pontiusporcius8430 2 года назад +5

      There is a non-battletech anime ova series from 1983 that has a faction built around this. They are a bunch of former miners turned revolutionaries.

    • @grandmasgopnik9642
      @grandmasgopnik9642 Год назад +3

      It’s such a cool aesthetic because Ive always liked the genre of gundum but was lukewarm to the mech designs common to shows airing around the 90s and 00s. My Dad designed mechs based more off the scraps around junkyard near our home and it is very reminiscent of this style. Now we both enjoy battle techs style figurines and action figures 😊

  • @theguardianqueen2628
    @theguardianqueen2628 5 лет назад +930

    My aunt actually voiced a character in MechAssault Phantom War

  • @EpicFailer
    @EpicFailer Год назад +75

    I like how this game went from "horrible mess that squeezes money out of people" to one of if not the best vehicle based games that don't tug on the wallet nearly as hard as the competition.

  • @IAmEnormous
    @IAmEnormous 7 лет назад +452

    >kick
    Dark Messiah.

    • @cia4u401
      @cia4u401 7 лет назад +1

      It's not marked in the list tho

    • @IPFreelly604
      @IPFreelly604 7 лет назад +1

      He's changing the rules.

    • @Xarlable
      @Xarlable 7 лет назад +8

      Look what you've done

  • @FirenzeStorm
    @FirenzeStorm 4 года назад +64

    Holy shit I just realised those trailer shots at 1:11 were by Celestial, one of our Unit members back in the competitive days. Im in some of those shots!

  • @fl4shblade
    @fl4shblade 7 лет назад +336

    MWLL dev here.
    Wanted to mention that the still screens were of 3 out of 5 possible new assets coming with the next patch.
    Hope to see you in the field mechwarriors, aerospace pilots, battle armor users and tank commanders!
    Greetings
    CWG Andrew

    • @murderkai9986
      @murderkai9986 7 лет назад

      fl4shblade Great

    • @wetwayne1504
      @wetwayne1504 7 лет назад +1

      Tried MWLL a couple of months ago, I couldn't find very many people playing on the servers. Are the servers a bit more populated now that this video has released? It would also be helpful if you could tell me the time of day that most people play the game to help getting into a populated server. Thanks!

    • @fl4shblade
      @fl4shblade 7 лет назад +11

      Yes the influx has been felt. Right now as I am speaking there are matches played on two servers. Since Mandalore released this there have been nonstop games going so come join us now! If you need any help join the discord and we settle you in. But in general there will pretty much always be games from european prime time to american late night. During the summer there wasn't much going on so you probably tried it back then.
      Greetings
      CWG Andrew

    • @mgbon2
      @mgbon2 7 лет назад +2

      Ndog Noah check out stats.spikx.net/mwll.html for server stats and other useful information

    • @EvilTwinn
      @EvilTwinn 7 лет назад

      What, no love for the Battle Armor guys? For shame.

  • @xxelaxela333
    @xxelaxela333 5 лет назад +411

    I clicked this video because it said " Death Grips viewers like this"
    Apparently your fanbase is noided

    • @madmanvarietyshow9605
      @madmanvarietyshow9605 5 лет назад +31

      It goes it goes it goes

    • @Cleanurself
      @Cleanurself 4 года назад +20

      Alex Myers in Mandy’s Eye divine cybermancy review he uses a clip of culture shock so there’s that

    • @d1agram4
      @d1agram4 4 года назад +2

      Avoid the noid

    • @kafkabigmon
      @kafkabigmon 4 года назад +2

      Too many hoes

    • @cheekibreeki6255
      @cheekibreeki6255 4 года назад +7

      it’s from me watching each video 10 times

  • @pentagonaldodecahedron453
    @pentagonaldodecahedron453 7 лет назад +845

    Dude you MUST do a video about tribes ascend. It's got a huge and horrible history

    • @francesboy2
      @francesboy2 7 лет назад +105

      Hi-Rez are both great and terrible looking back at Tribes ascend and Smite

    • @francesboy2
      @francesboy2 7 лет назад +56

      Great in their premise, bad in their execution and support. They're relatively unique sub genre games that I think were pretty fun when initially played, but ultimately poorly supported and boring in the long run.

    • @wanderingoryx3710
      @wanderingoryx3710 7 лет назад +9

      Galo Sengen

    • @MandaloreGaming
      @MandaloreGaming  7 лет назад +452

      I don't want to reinstall Tribes it'll just make me sad again

    • @Garbomeister
      @Garbomeister 7 лет назад +102

      Well-Coordinated and heavily practiced Reddit team beaten by a rag-tag group of /v/irgins run by a furry tripfag and a BR with 140 ping.

  • @EleonMythos
    @EleonMythos 3 года назад +136

    I remember when this game started you could melee mechs. Players complained about it because it was buggy as fuck. Devs said it was fine, untill the CEO got in a match with the big boys and they just locked him onto the ground unable to do anything. Next patch? Melee removed.
    Hoh and did you know that pretty much the entire team who developed was fired? Now no one understand the source code for major changes.... I love this game, and the franchise, and I like pgi for bringing a game like this to us... but honestly PGI should have asked to work with the MWLL team and make that game a star.
    Gl mech warriors, o7

    • @biggussoupius9713
      @biggussoupius9713 2 года назад +12

      Bit more context, melee wasn't a thing but knockdowns were and they were shit and it made light mechs very undesirable to play as lights were almost always knife fighters and eating dirt because you scraped someones toe was pretty lame. As for the layoffs, not sure about this, I know many devs moved over to MW5 and then moved over to LOTR online.
      Beyond that, not sure. MWO's development team is sorely lacking an engineer who understands the spaghetti ad-hoc Mwo cryengine code though (goid luck finding anyone there) not a big team at all but they add maps, buff/nerf passes and new mechs every now and then. For a 10 year old F2P there are worse positions I guess.

    • @richardvlasek2445
      @richardvlasek2445 2 года назад +14

      melee was never a thing, knockdowns were and they were so fucking awful they removed them within weeks of the original alpha's launch
      idk why the mwo community has such a pathological tendency to lie about things anyone with an internet access can look up

    • @CELINExDION
      @CELINExDION 2 года назад +9

      @@richardvlasek2445 more of a redditor tendency than anything tbh

    • @MNewton
      @MNewton 2 года назад +2

      Dragon Bowling!

  • @fluffydestroyer8336
    @fluffydestroyer8336 7 лет назад +44

    the mwll discord is overflowing with new people who just watched your video. you done a good

  • @thefeet
    @thefeet 7 лет назад +2

    tyvm for this! 9:10 folks is where it gets GOOD! I downloaded MWLL and am loving it! TY so much for taking the time to make this video and posting it! Very well done!

  • @Serasphiel
    @Serasphiel 2 года назад +28

    Since this video came out 4 years ago. MechWarrior Online has had a good bit of development, the grind has been reduced as well. New modes, skill system overhaul, new maps, actually new mechs and bug fixes galore.
    There's been a really good roster of events over the past years as well. The the rewards give generous amounts of premium currency, cutting down on the p2w aspect alot.
    Playing for free is viable and I think it's worth your time nowadays. Hope to see you on the battlefield! o7

    • @Sekijoe
      @Sekijoe 2 года назад +5

      This was the exact kinda comment I was hoping for

    • @guyincognito959
      @guyincognito959 Год назад

      Yeah, thanks for this comment, I think you just made me interested in it again. I played before and the f2p was the worst. Unfortunately. But here is hope, cheers!

  • @KhadaKuraki
    @KhadaKuraki 7 лет назад +18

    MandaloreGaming Dude, your reviews are my favorite by far. It's partly because you cover loads of interesting games to a suitable depth and with sufficient insight, but mostly it's because you don't talk to me like I'm a fucking moron; you don't shout at me, you don't act like everything is astonishing, and you don't coo at me like a patronizing mother. You talk to me like I'm a real person and you're a real person, and it's fucking depressing that it's a a breath of fresh air to be treated that way.
    Never ever change that.

  • @fullmetalpoitato5190
    @fullmetalpoitato5190 7 лет назад +16

    What an accurate summation on MWO. I have shared and on and off again love/hate relationship with this game and you really hit the nail on the head. +1 to you sir you have earned my sub!

  • @KazeOfKami
    @KazeOfKami 7 лет назад +185

    Cheers for the accurate history behind MWLL and what happened with PGI. Unfortunately there's one extra thing to add to that bit of history, but I can never say. I'm happy to have passed on the hat to the MWLL Community team and I have also moved onto my own project.

    • @fl4shblade
      @fl4shblade 7 лет назад +20

      Our founder's new project is solarwardengame.com
      Greetings
      CWG Andrew

  • @shuntaro2408
    @shuntaro2408 7 лет назад +21

    Loved the Robotech Battlecry intro. Gave me frikking goosebumps

  • @theblackpantslegion
    @theblackpantslegion 7 лет назад +368

    Its only missing Duncan Fisher saying "Well, I guess they outlawed fun. IM duncan Fisher, see you on Solaris in the next game" followed by whatever passes for the NFL theme on Sol-VII

    • @LincolnFStern
      @LincolnFStern 7 лет назад +13

      For Duncan, play Solaris Arena in MW:LL

    • @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
      @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 7 лет назад +1

      As the previous poster stated Duncan Fisher indeed features in MWLL's SA mode.

    • @LincolnFStern
      @LincolnFStern 7 лет назад +23

      "That guy was fighting like he was on fire.
      Of course, now, he is LITERALLY on fire."

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion 7 лет назад +7

      I love duncan/George Ledoux. Its why I hired him for my channel

    • @terryforsdyke306
      @terryforsdyke306 7 лет назад +4

      Solaris is intended for MWO early next year, and apparently they are trying to get George Ledoux to reprise his role as Duncan Fisher for that game mode

  • @agisuru
    @agisuru 3 месяца назад +4

    Fun fact! The Chuck E. Cheese on Pineville-Matthews Road had a MechWarrior arcade machine where you sit in a little yellow bubble cockpit thing that moves around while you play. I dunno if it's still there. If you can borrow a child so you don't look weird going there, I invite you to check for me, Mandy, since I'm not in the area anymore.

  • @RPGojira23
    @RPGojira23 7 лет назад +15

    The "live action" skit with the mini's was AMAZING! Wonderful work, and a great review.

    • @tomtheconqerur
      @tomtheconqerur 5 месяцев назад

      It needs its video because MechWarrior Gachimuchi edition is hilarious.

  • @CMWick
    @CMWick 5 лет назад +199

    Hey! The beginning music changed! It used to be the pacific rim theme.

    • @TheIrishCampFire432
      @TheIrishCampFire432 5 лет назад +47

      Probably changed for copyright claims

    • @Cubinator73
      @Cubinator73 5 лет назад +8

      Still is for the first few seconds.

    • @ShermTank7272
      @ShermTank7272 4 года назад +4

      jpc1918 - the RUclips editor is much less elegant than other editors out there. But on the plus side it allows you to edit videos post-upload to avoid copyright claims.

  • @bird_thing1444
    @bird_thing1444 7 лет назад +5

    Thank you so much for including MWLL in your vid Mandy!!
    For any newcomers to MWLL: Please join both the discord server, and the in-game Huntress Training Server. You can test out any asset as many times as you like in the training server (infinite cash), and ask in discord for someone to join you and show you the ropes.
    Again, thank you so much!

  • @WizardCat-ux8he
    @WizardCat-ux8he 6 лет назад +83

    So, Robotech as the background music at the beginning, as a reference to the infamous lawsuit from Harmony Gold? Cool

    • @alexhayden507
      @alexhayden507 4 года назад +15

      Harmony Gold have ruined so much shit with legal threats. Fuck them.

    • @ianbowden3370
      @ianbowden3370 4 года назад +1

      Which robotech theme?

    • @WizardCat-ux8he
      @WizardCat-ux8he 4 года назад +5

      @@ianbowden3370 in the video, at around the 45 second mark this song started ruclips.net/video/VE4ilEMBpXw/видео.html

    • @DynastyMaster62492
      @DynastyMaster62492 4 года назад +2

      Thank you! I couldn't figure out why that music triggered something in my brain. I couldn't figure out where on Earth I'd heard it before!

  • @toster41
    @toster41 7 лет назад +390

    MECH♂NEXT♂HANGAR♂

  • @Giesus3
    @Giesus3 7 лет назад +2

    I really like that it appears your channel has now "found a direction" and is running strong with it, I just recently found your channel but looking through your post history it really show; so kudos for that. You are uploading really good products with well thought out points and criticisms and I really appreciate that more than anything else, that and your occasional dry humor. It's refreshing. You have my sub.

  • @LucaEnzo
    @LucaEnzo 7 лет назад +262

    You definitly needed subtitles for the Australian bit

    • @FarmingtonS9
      @FarmingtonS9 7 лет назад +95

      8:54 Atlas is taking it up the ass, don't you worry about that! Right up the pooper! (the laughing makes it hard to understand the Aussie)
      8:59 Alright, that's it from me, BigDick1 over and out!

    • @jamestapp8576
      @jamestapp8576 7 лет назад +18

      Big ups to my fellow Australians
      \

    • @Zelousmarineinspace
      @Zelousmarineinspace 7 лет назад +11

      Enzo
      What's the matter? Don't understand English?

    • @khamulthewack4732
      @khamulthewack4732 7 лет назад +14

      The only bit I had trouble understanding was when he said "BigDick1." Thought he might have said "Big Dick Wallaby" but I'm pretty sure that was just wishful thinking on my part.

  • @ostegonation
    @ostegonation 7 лет назад +11

    This was an amazing review, thank you sir, thank you so much!
    I've been doing MWO builds to show people that they don't have to go with the "Meta" either, so that is something important for people to understand too.
    I think I will check out MW LL, I thought it was perma-dead as well.

  • @Wobble9000
    @Wobble9000 7 лет назад +72

    Well, I'm going to see what mechwarrior living legends is like. Thanks for informing me on this!

  • @komplaints7893
    @komplaints7893 7 лет назад +160

    me at the start - oh a mech game, I'm interested!
    me at the end - damn I'm avoiding that crap!

    • @jmjedi923
      @jmjedi923 10 месяцев назад +2

      If you haven't heard of it in 6 years, mechwarrior 5 is this game but singleplayer with coop. Decent modding scene too

  • @peterbarabas3996
    @peterbarabas3996 7 лет назад +6

    Thanks for mentioning Living Legends. It was tons of fun even 6 years ago.

  • @fenrissilverfang8419
    @fenrissilverfang8419 7 месяцев назад +4

    Got this re-recommended today and watching it again, I'm glad how much MWO changed for the better in especially the last year. Redone skill trees to be better, removed lackluster game modes, really really generous events every month with more on top that overlap often enough (free mechs , premium time and enough MC to buy whatever you want in the span of an event or two), new chassis, maps, weapons. Good stuff.

    • @hagamablabla
      @hagamablabla 5 месяцев назад +1

      Good to hear, I came back to this video to see if things have changed. I guess I'll give it a try again.

    • @fenrissilverfang8419
      @fenrissilverfang8419 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@hagamablabla Summer lootbag event is due to start as well for some neat freebies like the monthly mech giveaway (this time 2). As good as its gonna get to come back to ^^

  • @96Iheb
    @96Iheb 7 лет назад +59

    when the lord blesses us

  • @GloomRng
    @GloomRng 7 лет назад +2

    Dude i found you yesterday and chain watched all your reviews, absolutely spot on content, please keep creating!

  • @nightmagnus7595
    @nightmagnus7595 5 лет назад +87

    RIP pacific rim theme, never forget

  • @bunyan2422
    @bunyan2422 7 лет назад +1

    Mandalore you make some awesome content, glad a buddy showed my your channel

  • @StephenBlane
    @StephenBlane 7 лет назад +5

    I confused this for Steel Battalion and waited to hear what you thought about it's controller. I have never played this game but it certainly seems a lot of fun when you aren't fighting it's bugs or paid progression system.
    I love mech games, there aren't enough of them and having one that gives you overheat safety and an ability to bypass that system is really awesome to see. I will definitely look into Living Legends since that sounds excellent!
    Thanks Mandalore!

  • @whimsical.creature
    @whimsical.creature 5 лет назад +20

    Reactor: online.
    Sensors: online.
    Weapons: online.
    Yep... It's gamer time

    • @MrSpartanspud
      @MrSpartanspud 3 года назад

      But you forgot to engage your override. 👀

  • @mw4222
    @mw4222 7 лет назад +83

    14:20 you missed the fact that each weight class has strengths and weaknesses, and a 100t mech can be easily taken down by a 20t locust

    • @terryforsdyke306
      @terryforsdyke306 7 лет назад +35

      absolutely, but if the Loucst makes 1 mistake it is dead.
      the Locust is rather overgunned for its size but has so little armor that if a heavy or assualt Mech lands a good hit you are dead or crippled (and crippled in any light means most likely dead in a few seconds).
      I much prefer the Spider, less guns but can jump is about as hard to hit and can suvive a bit of damage
      the major weekness of the heavier assualt Mechs is low speed, Lights have a good chance of getting out of a bad situation, Mediums and Heavies have a reasionable chance, a 100 ton Mech has almost no chance of getting out of a bad situation (e.g. walking around a corner to be faced with 6+ enemies) before the large group of enemies reduce it to scrap.
      even the biggest Mechs sometimes go from fresh to scrap inside 5 seconds

    • @RaithSienar
      @RaithSienar 5 лет назад +7

      @@terryforsdyke306 Kinda irrelevant to the fact that Mandalore is misrepresenting the game and hinting that it's P2W by suggesting that an Assault mech is inherently superior to a Light mech when in many match-ups the Assault is going to be dead on the ground while the light took little to no damage.

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda 5 лет назад +9

      I hate/respect light 'Mech pilots so much. Bastards. 😂

    • @Usersunited
      @Usersunited 5 лет назад +19

      @@RaithSienar The only reason a light mech survives 1v1 against a competently configured heavy/assault is if their aim is bad, or its already been mostly stripped. Its not as bad as MW4 was with hitscan fulldamage lasers, but it still holds true.
      Hero mechs by definition makes the game P2W. However minuscule you might think that is, Some hero makes are the definitive variant of said mech. Likewise, enjoy the XP and progression systems without buying additional bays or converting XP.

    • @thermallance7947
      @thermallance7947 5 лет назад +7

      Erm. It is pay to win. =/ Sure you can EVENTUALLY get what you want for free.... key word is EVENTUALLY. As in... gotta spend a LOOOOOT of time grinding for that mech you want that might cost over 4,000,000 ingame currency. Then the parts and weapons (Of course everytime you switch... it drains you of cash. You cannot buy and store weapons.) and finally the skills. At the end you play with people that get quite a headstart compared to you. A big one. So you are left with 2 choices. Grind forever or pay. While technically it isn't pay-to-win. It might as well be called as such given what the game asks from free players.Besides... if we want to speak about better = more expensive. Just look at the different variants.

  • @eldritchautomaton
    @eldritchautomaton 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you for mentioning the Living Legends team, I definitely am going to go check that out.

  • @OruzeCruise
    @OruzeCruise 7 лет назад +203

    I'M♂FUCKING♂EJECTING

    • @francesboy2
      @francesboy2 7 лет назад +63

      Fucking mechs GET♂YOUR♂ASS♂BACK♂HERE

    • @faceless2302
      @faceless2302 7 лет назад +38

      BOY♂NEXT♂DOOR

    • @Amutsal
      @Amutsal 7 лет назад +7

      FUCK♂YOU

  • @anibalgonzalez7990
    @anibalgonzalez7990 3 года назад +5

    0:49 That nostalgia hit with the Robotech intro.

  • @BombdogStudios
    @BombdogStudios 7 лет назад +9

    This was a great video and likely the most honest review I have ever seen. If you are ever wanting to check out a Mech game without that F2P grind, let me know and I can make sure you get a copy of MAV.

  • @EJFreelancer
    @EJFreelancer 3 года назад +4

    I’ve been auto playing Mandalore videos and suddenly the Robotech Battlecry menu music popped up in my head. Got my attention.

    • @eddapultstab2078
      @eddapultstab2078 10 месяцев назад

      I remember that game and i immediately noticed the theme too.

  • @Kartoffelsnacks
    @Kartoffelsnacks 7 лет назад +6

    I've had your videos in my recommendations for like a month now but never watched them because to be honest your thumbnails looked clickbaity.
    Well after watching your F.E.A.R. review 2 days ago and realising my mistake now I'm done watching every single one of your reviews, you make some great quality content man can't wait for more.
    PLEASE add the Gothic series to your list man. It's not that wildly known outside of Germany, the Czech Republic and maybe a bit in the US but it's such a great RPG with it's own charm. (It is made by piranha bytes outside of Germany probably better known for their series Risen or maybe their soon to be released game Elex)
    If you are intested I'm happy to help with the research especially with stuff written in German.
    Anyway thanks for the fun content man cheers.

    • @Kartoffelsnacks
      @Kartoffelsnacks 7 лет назад

      Also since you already covered War of the Ring and I just found Gothic on your list, do Battle Realms! :)

    • @MandaloreGaming
      @MandaloreGaming  7 лет назад +1

      I actually try to make thumbnails *not* clickbaity and as minimal as possible. So could you tell me what you think makes them that way so I could tweak them a bit?

    • @Kartoffelsnacks
      @Kartoffelsnacks 7 лет назад

      Well it's not your fault, it's more my prior experiences with people using similar thumbnails to hide their lame content behind it. I don't think the majority of people regard your thumbnails as clickbaity my friend just told me he doesn't, it's just me don't worry about it.

    • @MandaloreGaming
      @MandaloreGaming  7 лет назад

      Alright, I just wanted to be sure! I definitely want to get around to Gothic when I get a chance.

    • @Kartoffelsnacks
      @Kartoffelsnacks 7 лет назад

      Cool man! Can't wait :)

  • @Monkey6K
    @Monkey6K 7 лет назад +2

    You just got a new subscriber. Not necessarily for this video but loved all your reviews. I glanced over the "list" you're working on and practically every single game on it is amazing. Can't wait for these reviews. You do an excellent job!
    (I'm especially looking forward to factorio and EDF 4.1)

  • @Bdakkon
    @Bdakkon 4 года назад +19

    The grind is the exact reason I stopped playing MWO. I loved everything about the game while playing but it was absolutely clear very early on that it was a loot box fueled grind fest that as someone that wants everything so I can build custom mechs for the fun of it would take FAR to long. If it was something like spend 100 bucks and you basically will have everything you'll need then I would most likely cave but EACH mech is like 20 bucks which is absolutely INSANE.

    • @EleonMythos
      @EleonMythos 3 года назад

      Dont know if you are still interested or not, but with the ammount of events they make and loot crates you get after x matches, its way easier to buy all the stuff you want without spending a dime.

  • @KubinWielki
    @KubinWielki 6 лет назад +61

    Those skill trees remind me of Path of Exile. "Oh, look! We have a 1000 skills!" .. Yeah, and 42 of them are +2% casting speed, 80 +1% attack damage etc.

  • @dreamyrhodes
    @dreamyrhodes 7 лет назад +5

    wow that was actually pretty great and accurate. I played MWO in an unit for a year and have experienced like everything you mentioned. I was a fan of MechWarrior and that was the only reason I was sticking around. But then the unit started to have issues too (mostly due to top tier players and some leading officers leaving because of boredom in the game's repetitiveness and unsophisticated game modes) and I finally uninstalled and never came back.

  • @daveinjapan
    @daveinjapan 7 лет назад +1

    As a MWO Legendary Founder I have this to say: Yes. Best MWO review yet, Thank you!

  • @CdrMcNeil
    @CdrMcNeil 7 лет назад +102

    Wait... wait...wait..... MWLL....is.....back!? *Runs to the Googles*

  • @superlurkeable
    @superlurkeable 6 лет назад

    Dat Caesar 3 soundtrack at 14:57 doe!!
    (ps: awesome video and as entertaining to watch as always!)

  • @saladcollective3380
    @saladcollective3380 Год назад +6

    Playing in 2023 and the community is still very active and just as cooperative and talkative as when reviewed. Real good fun

  • @Xw3dn3sd4yX
    @Xw3dn3sd4yX 2 года назад +1

    "It's like if Caterpillar bought a Gundam factory."
    This is the exact reason I love the Battletech look, too!

  • @DiamondCalibre
    @DiamondCalibre 5 лет назад +45

    Shadow2001 sounds like a grizzled veteran talking through a ham radio. He's probably just 18, considering his username lmao.

    • @Mecha_Hitler
      @Mecha_Hitler 5 лет назад +15

      How do you know he didnt start playing the game in 2001

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 5 лет назад +8

      He could have created his email in 2001, you see that a lot with late '90s/early 2000s new internet users. But you're probably right.

    • @ghostoflazlo
      @ghostoflazlo 3 года назад +1

      Or he just based af

  • @jessierine3981
    @jessierine3981 4 года назад +7

    God this makes me miss Hawken.. such a good game just straight up died one day. Im so sad

  • @blarg35
    @blarg35 4 года назад +19

    i played this game for year, loved every hour of it, would not recomend

  • @DarkBladeX98
    @DarkBladeX98 7 лет назад

    Damn son. Super glad you mentioned Living Legends. Will have to start spreading the word to all my mech-lovin' brothers :D

  • @slingshotmcoy
    @slingshotmcoy 7 лет назад +26

    Living legends sounds rad and i'm not even a Battletech fan.

    • @junioraltamontent.7582
      @junioraltamontent.7582 4 года назад

      It's not. If you aren't as good, you'll stay piloting light mechs and get mopped up by experienced players. MWO is a much better game.

  • @warriorsofftime2782
    @warriorsofftime2782 4 года назад +7

    0:05 copy right strike mandalor?

  • @Dr.Strangelewd
    @Dr.Strangelewd 7 лет назад +70

    A kick, huh? Dark Messiah?

  • @HumanAnalyst257
    @HumanAnalyst257 4 года назад +30

    I just wanna know how many people actually recognized the Macross theme at the begging.

    • @Gothmetalhead13
      @Gothmetalhead13 3 года назад

      Probably more than know the origins of half the classics

  • @brandonford1753
    @brandonford1753 3 года назад +3

    Mech assault 2 Lone Wolf was one of my absolute favorite games on the original Xbox as a kid. Played through it so many times

    • @siegfriedgottz698
      @siegfriedgottz698 2 года назад

      One of the first games I ever played ayrd on xbox that and fable and kotr. You ever play a game called freedom fighters?

  • @inkmime
    @inkmime 6 лет назад +2

    Your review style almost kind of reminds me of Ross Scott in some ways. You always keep a cool head, tend to look at games with an equal amount of objectivity and personal opinion, some very witty jokes. I love it.

  • @RighBread
    @RighBread 5 лет назад +11

    I've loved BattleTech since I was 6 years old, so this game was a dream came true when I first heard about it. Slowly, over time, the cracks began to show. The biggest, most glaring problem at this point is a combination of power creep and loadout meta. With the introduction of Clanners (which I dreaded from the beginning, and for good reason), Inner Sphere tech became more or less obsolete. They tried to balance it in a way, but it just didn't work, and doesn't even fit the canon of the series. Loadout meta was a problem from day 1, and I honestly wish they would have either made 'mech customization either absurdly expensive or gotten rid of it altogether. The impact of seeing certain 'mech chassis crest a hill is completely diminished because they can essentially have anything on them, so you don't really know what you're up against. Additionally, min-maxers - while common in games like this - would quickly figure out the absolute best set-up with each new patch, and ridiculous loadouts would become commonplace. A Stalker with three LRM 20s was a staple in the game, and became such an overpowered joke that the devs nerfed LRMs to discourage that kind of play. Then later they buffed LRMs because nobody used them. Then nerfed them again once the missile boats came back. Then nerfed them again. Then you have Daishi pilots that strap on 3 Ultra Autocannon 20s and you just have to wonder why the fuck you're playing anymore. Years of baffling decisions by developers and shitty money-grabs turned me off forever. I wish someone else got ahold of this IP and did something good with it for a change.

    • @OneBiasedOpinion
      @OneBiasedOpinion 2 года назад

      And now it has Piranhas and Vipers skidding about the map at 130+ kph, loaded to the gills with Clan Heavy MGs and micro-lasers that can burst down assaults from full armor in 5 seconds or less if nobody swats them away quickly enough.
      The game’s lost any semblance of decent balance or impact.

  • @Joos2000
    @Joos2000 5 лет назад +1

    The background track around 6:50 is from one of my favourite childhood platfom shootemups, Turrican 2.

  • @lonewolfsx29
    @lonewolfsx29 4 года назад +5

    what happened to the intro? I vaguely remember watching this years ago and hearing the cha-ching sounds, and different music? I guess the youtube copyright bots got it from something?

  • @captainforrix956
    @captainforrix956 4 года назад

    During the mod section around 16:00 is that Ace Combat music? It sounds so familiar but I'm not sure

  • @Polaf3456
    @Polaf3456 Год назад +3

    MechWarrior Living Legends is still up, and it does still get updates sometimes.
    It could really use more players too.
    Play it.

  • @XAlt95Ray
    @XAlt95Ray 6 лет назад +1

    "The chains are too tight" moment sold your channel to me. RIP Billy Herrington

  • @lordwhippleton9734
    @lordwhippleton9734 6 лет назад +5

    If you want to get some better sounds out of the game I found Za Ku’s weapon sound pack helps immensely. Sound mods are a great way to freshen the game.

  • @stinky1895
    @stinky1895 4 года назад

    I love this video so much. All of your videos are absolute gold, but the Jackie Chan Adventures intro joke about pop-in is just one of the funniest comparisons I've ever heard. It's one of those jokes I come back to this video just to hear

  • @lethalfelix
    @lethalfelix 7 лет назад +4

    Just a heads up, Living Legends can sometimes be... tricky to get working. Here's a link to the discord server where you can get some questions answered if you need help: discord.gg/tuaBpVg

  • @ericklecorbeau8341
    @ericklecorbeau8341 Год назад +1

    THANK YOU for reminding me of MW Living Legends !

  • @TorricRoma
    @TorricRoma 5 лет назад +6

    0:40 when actual audio starts, RUclips claimed the first 40 seconds

  • @d_p2371
    @d_p2371 Год назад +2

    I find it interesting that MWO just rebranded to "Legends" from "Solaris 7". Maybe a pre-emptive copywrite, as it seems like a Living Legends 2 project is currently in development.

    • @SuperGhettoBob
      @SuperGhettoBob Год назад

      Is Living Legends 2 in development? They have not provided an update in a year. I thought that game had a chance when it was a PvP multiplayer mod for MechWarrior 5, but that is no longer the case.

  • @xaroxero
    @xaroxero 7 лет назад +3

    I love me some Living Legends. Wish more people knew about it.

  • @BearlyAwakeTV
    @BearlyAwakeTV 2 года назад +1

    Watching this again 4 years later only to recognize the Battletech anime theme in the background.

  • @TheGamerUnknown
    @TheGamerUnknown 7 лет назад +18

    Never seen those technical issues before. I've never even heard of them before. The standalone launcher is screwed up though, the steam version is better. Also, the "golden 'mech skins" weren't just skins, and they were also part of a time when PGI had a publisher - infinite games publishing. They pushed them to do that, not PGI's choice. Also, living legends didn't spawn MWO. And living legends is still in active development.

    • @R31aySe7en
      @R31aySe7en 7 лет назад +2

      All true, I just wish MWO could make that last push and go from dissapointing to amazing. Hopefully we will get new maps after MW5 is done and PGI gets their map designers back.

    • @lupvirga
      @lupvirga 5 лет назад

      @@R31aySe7en it's hard to do when the balance is all over the place.

  • @Petronious
    @Petronious 7 лет назад +1

    There's something soothing about seeing giant mechs get blown up to the sound of the Croc soundtrack.

  • @Insuff
    @Insuff 7 лет назад +5

    I play MWO and I don't experience so many bugs. I don't use the Steam client but the download client from MWO's website though.
    Also European and North American servers have a lot more players and you will find Faction Play matches. Depends on the time of the day ofc.

  • @cendregaming3200
    @cendregaming3200 7 лет назад

    I love that ace Combat music at 15:45 :) I believe that's the escort mission music from Ace Combat 4

  • @Pokemonmovemaster
    @Pokemonmovemaster 7 лет назад +9

    I'll explain Heroes/Champions and the whole currency/skill tree system being borderline P2W(WARNING: Long post and I'm not going to tl;dr):
    Champions are community made builds that are voted on in the forums every once in a while. (Not that Reinforcement pack you called a Champion pack at 13:47. That's actually 2 more variants you can get on top of the ) PGI hosts a thread for the mech(s) chosen and people post there and in like 2 weeks or so they release a variant. They all have the same weapon hardpoints compared to the originals(though clans are different because Omnipods). Essentially, you can buy what you could grind to make. Champions have a C-bill bonus, though. (This was my biggest issue with the video was not understanding Champions, which is fine because the store really isn't organized that well).
    Heroes are just lore-based variants that come out every so often. They tend to be middle of the road (Usually most of the older ones), with only some OP ones (Marauder IIC-Scorch to name one). Again, C-Bill bonus.
    Mechpacks can be hit or miss. You might get a Mech whose hitboxes cause the damage to naturally roll and/or have really good hardpoint positions (MAD-IIC/Kodiak) or you could get a mech who has all his hardpoints in its arms and they easily get popped off (Phoenix Hawk). Every non-Hero variant eventually gets put on the C-Bills market.
    Atlas's costing like 20Mil C-bills is a lore thing. In the Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries offline campaign you could buy Mechs off of an in-game shop with C-Bills earned from missions, which increased in price based off of tonnage. Also, Inner Sphere being less than Clan is supposed to "balance" them, but not really.
    Skill tree actually is terrible. However, before that, you needed to buy 3 of a different variant of the same Mech to maximize your performance for that one variant and you needed to grind out the other 2 as well, which could be hell if you didn't like the other two. The older system of 3 of a kind was much cleaner and arguably better though.
    MW:O's shtick is mostly just pay to avoid grind/get stuff early, which I guess would be more passable if the grind wasn't as difficult. The main thing people tell you to do is to just use MC to get Mechbays, which is where I guess the game get even closer to P2W. The events are really what's holding this game back from being full on P2W.

    • @grzegorzzapotoczny6599
      @grzegorzzapotoczny6599 7 лет назад +1

      Hythreon yea but u can get mechbays in fraction play. They are free then

    • @Pokemonmovemaster
      @Pokemonmovemaster 7 лет назад

      Oh! Forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me! I don't play Faction play much, so it slipped my mind.

  • @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787
    @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787 3 года назад

    Ahh finally you just helped me identify some old figures I got a long time ago from a neighbor but never knew what they were from, they were firm this franchise

  • @stryker5055
    @stryker5055 6 лет назад +9

    6:30
    That boomer getting really into it is emblematic of the entirety of Battletech.

    • @doomguy1167
      @doomguy1167 4 года назад +1

      I know, it put a big smile on my face, he's getting so into it even if he sounds unenthusiased

  • @julthefool150
    @julthefool150 5 лет назад +2

    I just Love the ace combat Soundtracks in the background at like 18 Minutes in

  • @Denazon
    @Denazon 7 лет назад +13

    Great review. You hit the nail on the head, it's a great feeling and playing game but far too many micro-transactions and some bugs which are a shame. The community, however, is probably one of if not the best online communities I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with.

    • @Wolfsheim23
      @Wolfsheim23 6 лет назад

      I sure hope we can get such a community in Battletech the Turn Based game, In multiplayer I mean and expanding on that platform.

  • @YoBadMama
    @YoBadMama 6 лет назад

    Wow. Did not expect Robotech music. That made me profoundly happy.

  • @Jetiko27
    @Jetiko27 7 лет назад +15

    Oh, lemme guess. Is the game we "might get a kick out of" Dark Messiah?

    • @sigma6656
      @sigma6656 7 лет назад +1

      Damnit, Why didn't i think of that...

  • @EminemLovesGrapes
    @EminemLovesGrapes 4 года назад +2

    Imagine if they redid monetization like Waframe. Would fit too. Research weapons for your "frames" with resources you grind. Multiple frames, weapons etc. Probably could've lasted much longer, along with some TLC of course.