Robert does the best car reviews! None of this "design language" crap. Notices the details that an average non-petrolhead driver cues to. I really appreciate that he's the one who got to do the first drive for Fully Charged.
The best car reviews? You have to be joking or you just haven't seen content from the best automotive journalists in the world, because you are both objectively and subjectively wrong. I like Robert but he is by no means the best at reviewing cars.
I just hope they will refresh the MODEL Y to be the OFF-ROAD brother of the Model 3, and justify the higher price by adding active air suspension, integrated sunroof covers, and maybe even an extra paid option for flood/deep water resistance up to the door handles at least, so we can trully have peace of mind in case of emergencies. (Electric vehicles can be the true conquers of hurricanes and flooding since they don't rely on air intake for driving, and they could introduce shutters for the cabin air intake, to protect it against dirty flood water, and recirculate the cabin air trough propper filters to help the air quality while in deep water.)
You don’t need one, I’ve driven for 5 years without one and never cared. The speed read out is literally easier to see than looking down. You don’t even NEED a HUD since the speedo is within peripheral vision and it’s easy to see, that is if you have a brain cell or two.
Why not? I know for a fact my kids would love to have a screen there. It's completely sperate blue tooth setup so you can connect headphones to it, it's an extremely easy to use to control climate as well. Sounds like you love plastic vents. The question isn't why is it needed, the question is why is it such a problem for you? it's a luxury addition for a sub 40k car and just cause OP has no kids or no friends that sit in the backseat means other people are just like him. MOST have kids that like entertainment, you dolt. @@Eric_Garrison
+cooled seats +lights +noise reduction (hopefuly) +rear display -top speed -blinker and gear selector stick. For me a huge minus not having sticks. I really love the actual control of the stick to activate/deactivate autopilot and set into Neutral and wipers. I am hesitant to replace my M3 when the time comes.
Its stupid to have them stack on top of eachother. Ofcourse stocks are better, but they want to minimize parts, OK THEN PUT THE LEFT SIGNAL ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT.
The lack of turn signal levers is troublesome. There are plenty of roundabouts here in Sweden, and the law here says you blink right when you drive out of the roundabout (lefthand drive in Sweden), and if you don’t you will get fined if you are caught by the police.
Indeed, what is wrong with a stalk? Also, I've only ever driven a Model Y, but where is the drive mode i.e. park, reverse, drive etc. (screen?..) Also how to do you engage autopilot without the drive mode stalk? (screen?...) I think being hell bent on getting rid of something that has been the same on a steering wheel since forever is going in the wrong direction.. With my hand I can flick and press buttons rather quickly instead of fumbling to look for them or think about what button, rotary switch on a rotating steering wheel.. Also what about people who drive multiple vehicles, like a company vehicle? Keeping a few things common with other vehicles is a good thing for familiarity. I like what Tesla has done, but keep a few tactile items at my reach please!
It's really not hard to use the turn indicator buttons. It takes maybe a week to get used to it. I have it on the Model X yoke. It's actually safer in the sense that you can keep both hands on the wheel while pressing the indicator.
You’ll get used to it, you will get used to knowing where they are on the wheel. It takes maybe 3-4 days, maybe 2 weeks if you’re really stupid. Just cause something has been there since the beginning of driving cars, doesn’t mean it can’t be changed, you’re just afraid of it, afraid of learning something new and you don’t like evolution in “the way is always been done” that mentality is weak af, 10 ply really.
The noise is one of my biggest complaints with my previous M3 and current MY. But you have to factor in that the roads in Norway are very noisy too. This summer I was driving in Denmark and I was shocked with how quiet my car suddenly was. So if you feel this on is better than the one you have back in England, it might just be verry quiet.
I find my level jumps up and down depending on the roads here in the UK, but the lack of engine noise to hide the fact they built the road badly is noticeable when you're on a rough one!
Still no speed indicator right behind the wheel though. That's one thing I hated when test driving the Model Y, having to turn my head away from the road just to see how fast I was driving
How often do you need to check your speed? Hopefully you turn your head to check all your mirrors more often than you check your speed. If not you should take a bus.
The speed readout is literally within peripheral vision and you shouldn’t have to turn your head at all if you’re looking forward. The speed readout is large and clear to see from the driver seat.
Look at it (or not) this way. Looking at that number takes less time and eye movement than glancing at *any* manual knob/ lever/ switch/ indicator that you used in the past to change any setting the infotainment, climate or other features..... And you DID look, even if you think you didn't. ALL of that distraction is removed by one scroll button and a voice command.
Love everything except those turning indicator buttons that just are going to be a disaster in roundabouts and other high turning situations where we will be looking for the buttons as was the case with the old horn.
I agree how can the indicator work on a roundabout? It's going to get messy trying to signal to exit a roundabout... or will the car work that bit out?
@@stickleback73 Simple: It doesn't. :) I abandoned the new model S because of this exact same stupid thing. Buttons on the steering wheel simply doesn't work in roundabouts. They're never in the same spot when you need them. Can't be used without looking down.
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneckSo we have the choice between a country with roundabouts or a country where we have to worry about our kids being shot up at school.
Thanks for the review Robert. Indicators on buttons the steering wheel - an absolute car crash in my opinion. I have been using the flappy paddle regen controls on our Ioniq 6 recently to switch modes as I slow down to stop and again when I speed up from stationary, for reasons that aren’t important here. My observation from doing this is that unless the steering wheel is pretty close to its normal resting position, it isn’t possible for me to get my head around where the flappy paddles are, because they are bolted to the back of the steering wheel. When I am slowing down or pulling away from stationary, the steering wheel is often not straight, and it is just not possible to find the paddles. Now think indicators, and think how often you turn them on or off when the wheel is not straight. For example, UK road rules for roundabouts require you to change your indicators mid way round, and for many of the smaller ones, the wheel is nowhere near straight for the duration of being on the roundabout. Now think having to find these indicator buttons that are not where they are supposed to be - and you will be able to imagine just how silly they will be to use. Unless, of course, I am the only person in world who would get thrown off by this. I suppose we will find out.
I think there's a legal/regulation issue in the US with using camera mirrors so they would have to be an option rather than standard. Maybe Tesla decided it wasn't worth doing until the US allows them
See Petrolped's review of the Hyundai IONIQ6 he didn't like them on that at all and with good reasons. Normal mirror you move your head about and what you see changes so you see much more - camera mirrors nothing so right now they are totally inferior.
A huge testament to all your hard work Robert and the team you've built up around you - I'm a follower since I bought my first EV (Nissan Leaf) what feels like a lifetime ago. Congrats on this first drive and thank you for everything you do.
Particularly if they are eyeing the leg room while still wanting the fuel efficiency or their children are getting older like those going from Model 3 to Model Y when it became available.
Hi, do you know you can get a refurbished model3 Ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 17 grand since it's refurbished
@@kalebdaark100 yea man, they're basically discounted and you get them from being a staff or a family member, it's also limited too. I got a referral but I can only grant permission to 3 people to use max
Good review as ever. The deletion of the indicator stalks seems rather dangerous and unintuitive to use requiring eyes off road especially on a round about. Perhaps this is the BMWisation of Tesla. Like the new front end view. Gone is the duck face. How does one indicate when half way around a roundabout? (ie with steering wheel half way around and everything is reversed)
While I'm not sure about the button idea instead of the stalks, the functionality of the indicator switching on the one I've been driving is my least favourite thing. But I'm sure the glass roof will bug me when the Australian summer comes. And the cooling needed to make up for it would have to affect the range. People talking to me on the phone haven't realised that I was driving. So it wasn't an issue.
Yes as a Honolulu, Hawai’i resident I can tell you that the glass roof, even with an extra 35% ceramic tint, I loose range because I have to keep my a/c between 6 & 8 fan speed and between LO & 65°F (17°C) in my ‘23 Model Y. My friend has a Model Y and the screen he bought on Amazon and it cuts the heat much more than just tint, he has 5% ceramic tint on the roof.
Getting rid of the indicator stalk is a mistake , especially in the UK when your going around large roundabouts when you need to change lanes ! Otherwise I want one.
Just got back from 4 days in the UK with my Model X Plaid with the buttons and yoke. Absolutely no problem, and on autopilot it's so easy to have your arm on the door, your hand at the steering wheel, and just push a button to auto change lanes.
I was already not getting one because they're much too expensive, but not adding a drivers screen and making you take your hand off the wheel mid-manoeuvre are real marks against it.
1:14 😅 Franz and the team must of been glad to hear that comment. Headlights are totally different (almost like the Roadster lights), fog lamps have gone, the duck bill has gone, and the air intake is different.
I very recently had a 21 plate Model 3 LR loaner for 3 weeks and it is a fabulous car. I normally drive a Model S and I do like the smaller dimensions of the Model 3. I do miss the extra information that the screen in front of you gives you in the Model S, so I would probably get an aftermarket screen or heads up if/when I move to the Model 3. The improved refinements of the 'facelift' Model 3 will simply make it an even more compelling buy. The combination of better efficiency, longer range and faster charging will make a noticeable change on very long trips.
I had the chance to drive a Model X Plaid from Gothenburg to Vänersborg (about 1 hours drive) and noticed that having indicators on the steering wheel (or yoke in this case) was only a good thing as long as I was driving on the highway, with the yoke more or less straight all the time. As soon as I got on smaller roads with round-abouts, it became a real pain in the backside, since I often had to click the indicator button while it was out of reach when turning the yoke... I like progess and all, but some things are better as they are... The new Model 3 looks very interesting - I have no doubt I will get to drive one of those too very soon.
The comment I was looking for .. this thing sounds like a real pain for Europeans with tons of roundabouts, curvy roads and everything,.. I don't understand why Tesla's can't just be good cars to use, they are deliberately painful to use... (Turn on wipers, open glovebox, use indicators, use Android auto...)
I’d reckon that it’s because Tesla is an American car company and there are hardly any roundabouts in America at all. You’d think Tesla could bother to take feedback from their EU customers or, at least, send some engineers to Europe (or in all parts of the world they sell their cars, since other countries might have differences too) to see how well their designs work in those places. It’s not like they can’t build different spec models, they already adopted the EU plug standard while still using their own proprietary standard in the US (which will be part of the new NACS standard starting in ’24/’25).
Sounds like it was very similar to the previous model 3. The improvements was mostly in areas that was already quite good. The removal of stalks is a huge disappointment, though not surprising. The improvement in cabin noise might be imperceptible, just like it was with the last facelift. Ventilated seats and a new front camera is good improvements. I hope it will get a 360 view.
I don’t own a Tesla. Never have. It’s a beautiful car. As I read through the comments what strikes me is the difficulty people have adjusting to change.. “It’s not like my Chevy!” or “I can’t figure out where the controls are!” - When I see my twenty something kids handle their iPhone and all of its settings I realize my inadequacy at using the iPhone 😀 isn’t an iPhone problem, it’s a me problem. My kids are good at using their iPhone because they handle it frequently. I’m sure the Tesla is the same - you have to use it a few times before you understand it and you have to be willing to adjust to the new normal. I’m not insulting anyone - I’m older than most people reading this. This is wonderful and cool technology created by creative young people - just have to roll with the changes and embrace them.
@@bastianm5478 i click it with my finger..? You do you use the stocks in a round about? With your finger! Also usually you don’t click it in a round about, it stays on with the auto turn signal feature
Gorgeous white ventilated seats, ambient lighting, top class touchscreen system and rear entertainment system, 17 speakers, crazy performance, beautiful design. Model 3 is now truly a luxury car.
They did a lot of things to lower the drag coefficient, due to this the car looks better than the previous version. But.. why did they - yet again - mount asymmetrical and non-directional wheels?The wheels on the passenger side (LHD) are ' rotating the wrong way'. Surely mounting symmetrical wheels would improve drag and wind noise ever so slightly.
It amazes me how that “turn signal button” thing got approved.. going around a roundabout will be next to impossible and probably be responsible for a lot of dangerous situations…
No need to sugarcoat it. People will 100% crash because of this. That alone is a good reason to avoid it if you have roundabouts on your work commute. The question is, will there be aftermarket fixes?
Here in California we have a large roundabout near my residence and I have to admit I’m not sure I ever use the turn signal, it’s not that I’m negligent, it’s just not necessary. Are European roundabouts different than ours in the US ?
@@nicodonald Roundabout are being aggressively deployed in the USA, but they're mostly small ones. So I rarely see any turn-signals other than for a simple right turn .
I dont understand how you will indicate to exit a roundabout, how will this actually work? I already cant turn the windscreen wipers on without asking my partner to do it for me!
On the current Model 3 just press the button on the end of the indicator to make it clean the screen once, then a small menu pops up on the screen and you can select on/off/auto etc (or whatever the options are..)
This is the best review I’ve seen so far of the revised Model 3. Probably because you are a Model 3 owner so really know the cars strengths and weaknesses unlike the majority of reviewers who only get a short time with a car.
Thanks for a great review Robert. I only just got my Model 3 thanks to Fully Charged Harrogate so in many respects I'm selfishly glad the upgrade is evolutional rather than revelational 🤣 I'm (personally) not sold on the indicators as buttons idea though
Being able to fix your own vehicle is an important factor. Wealthy people never bothered, but for the masses, it is important. Mass movement against the elite world is dangerous to EV take up. Backyard industries are important.
I like my vintage hoover, but like Robert, I want this one. And I just noticed why. No stupid holes in the front for air to the brakes or whatever. Who wants to wash that? The best hole is no hole?
I did the same. Had a 2015 Leaf to "learn" how to own an EV. Robert's video on the Gen2 Leaf a few years ago convinced me to upgrade this year. I love my Leaf. But not gonna lie...I'm itching for this latest Model 3 :)
Everytime I drive through Germany it surprises me that I rarely see a Tesla on the road there. All that wihile driving south from Scandinavia where Tesla’s are everywhere.
I remember when the first full screen mobile phones started….and the complains (including me) about the lack of key boards…and here we go…we survived and are well and no complaining
The suspension on the current model 3 is probably the worst aspect of the car, so an improvement is definitely required. If I change to the new version this would certainly be a big reason.
I heard that newer battery technology (announced from CATL?) is coming next year with significantly improved range. If that’s true, then that would be more of a game changer than this. If that’s not the case, then this revision will still be available then (with all the potential first generation issues dealt with).
A lower drag coefficient in turn, means that if it isn't electronically throttled (which I assume the Performance version will not be), it should be even faster!
As a Model Y driver, I have two frustrations with current Teslas: You can't unplug the charge cable without either going into the app or climbing into the car to press the screen, and the lack of support for Android Auto and Apple Player (both of which are superior for media and navigation). Other than that, the car is good to drive and incredibly efficient compared to other electric cars i've owned.
The loss of the turn signal stalk is a total mistake. I'm waiting on a Model Y order and I'm glad I got in before this happens to the Y because I already know it will be my first and last Tesla.
I agree with others, the turn signal buttons is madness! Also I hate the fact that most controls are through the screen. Those 2 things for me mean it’s waaay into deal breaking territory. I was really hoping for a really meaningful upgrade of practical improvements together with much better looks. Tesla should get there act together a lot more than this and I mean pdq!
Tesla should get their act together??? LOL! Tesla is so far ahead that second place needs the hubble telescope to see them. But I guess I am just a fanboy.
Why would you want to repair it? If you have an accident so big it damages the battery then that car is a total write off. The battery will then be recycled for its minerals and materials.
Lack of stalks is a deal breaker. Hopefully this is like the yolk rollout and they eventually provide an option to get a steering wheel with stalks and center mounted horn.
USA-centric design where they don't have roundabouts and/ or understand the need to use indicators mid-turn... One of the stupidest design choices I've seeon on a car and surprised they could even get type approval for it tbh.. I currently have a September '21 SR+ MIC (half way through a lease..), and this certainly would be a deal breaker for any upgrade but largely sick of the build quality anyway (and appalling suspension) so it doesn't really bother me..
Horn in the middle of the steering wheel should come to Model S/X soon. No comment on any review so far about gear selector, so I assume it’s either auto-selected on vision, or swipey-swipey like in the S/X Cooled seats is a big deal for me. Luxury feature. More range is always good. Only negative seems like the indicators. Beautiful upgrade. Can’t wait for Juniper Y!!! ❤
This is definately on my list, especially the standard range with the pricing below £40k! The suspension being softened is welcomed by me due to having a bad neck and feeling every bump!
Always love Roberts reviews, been awhile since he has and glad he was the one to do it. Nothing against Jack just sometimes good to have the every'man' view rather than specialist view. :) Personally I wouldn't buy it and am not a Tesla owner and won't be but appreciate what they have done for the industry as a whole.
I think the indicator switches will just mean tesla drivers won’t indicate on roundabouts. TeslaBjorn found them unworkable. Such an odd decision to make the car less safe.
So much better looking than the first version of the Model 3, but how is anyone going to indicate properly on roundabouts in this car? By all means move the gear selector to the screen, even the wipers, but the indicators should have been left in place. Here in Europe, roundabouts are everywhere, and you’re supposed to signal for safety and traffic-flow reasons. It’s a fantastic car but I’ll stick with the older model for now until the new indicator setup has been tested out in real world conditions.
Tesla is good, but I got BYD atto3, not only 25K cheaper, but the comfort riding, smart system and quality interior, extra screen under steering wheel, power discharge can do electronic barbecue, mov the lawns et al. Blade battery is super resilient, will extensive charging without drop the kms over the time of use.
Lack of indicator stalks and drive selector will take a lot of getting used to. It’s a shame they also didn’t take the opportunity to make it into a hatchback as part of the changes.
Getting used to??? How do you indicate off a tight roundabout when you have a random amout of lock on the steering? Sounds like the sketchiest car out there.
@@devonbikefilms On every different size of roundabout or corner you want to indicate on, the indicator will be in a completely different place.... its like a worse version of someone randomly swapping the stalks, every time you drive the car... People just wont indicate when they have 2 and 3/4 turns of lock on. People just wont do it. This thing is built for simple american instersections and nothing else. Its really poor design for most of the world. Tesla will change it eventually. Guarenteed.
@@InquisitiveBaldMan Even on the same roundabouts and corners you can end up with slightly different amounts of lock. There's alot of people who seem to think they're on a track when driving and keep their hands locked to the wheel, not sure how they manage tight turns but my guess is their experience is in America where that's not a problem.
Not that I'm likely to be able to justify the cost of a new vehicle but those steering wheel buttons for the indicators would be a deal breaker for me. I had a seriously industrial injury in the 80's to my left thumb (Crush injury) and have serious limited movement with it. Also, Those tail lights look nice... Does Polestar know they've nicked them ?
The rear lights are different because they are one piece instead of split, and look good in my opinion. There is also interior lighting strips around the dash and trim. A lot of the upgrades to this car are available as accessories to the current model 3 as current owners will attest.
I got a badass light kit lightning bug tech they're called I highly recommend them!!! 300$ 210 modes, it comes with a drunk light, center console light, dashboard lights, Footwell lights an back seat rest lights!! For my standard range model 3! It's plug n play the rear vent is the power source! So no need to worry about software locked
those new tail lights may be illegal in the US. I believe the regulations require tail light be visible to approaching traffic if the trunk or tailgate is open.
One useful addition (that should be standard on all EVs, actually) would be a charging port on either side of the vehicle. And yes, a Model 2 (small hatchback) and a Model 1 (micro 2-seater? think Smart for2) would be really, really nice.
You mean both sides? With Tesla optimizing for cost I don't see that. For their superchargers they are nearly all built to have it on that spot. For UK I guess it's a downside to have it not on the driver side when you park in your garage. For street charge parking - how is it in UK? closer to the curb but instead a handle sticking out that people in the moment can be enticed to mess with.
@@subwarpspeed in the UK it's probably find, but in countries that drive on the right (i.e. correct :)) side of the street the plug sticks out into the street and becomes a hazard for cyclists. The objectively best place for a charging port would be on the passenger side (as that's where curbside chargers are) somewhere between the A and C pillar (so you need a minimal cable length to reach it, regardless if the charger is in front or behind the car). But since it's just a bunch of cables there should be no problem placing charge ports on both sides. Yes, it's an additional cost, but compared to the price of a car that should be negligible. I'd be happy to pay a little more just for the convenience (and paint protection) of not having to drag a cable under/across the car, in many cases right next to traffic. At the street chargers near to my home I often see Tesla owners park on the left (i.e. against the flow of traffic, which is actually illegal on priority roads here in Austria) just to have the charge port next to the charger.
We have a 2019 Model 3 SR+, and a 2021 Model Y LR. They’re fully featured cars, drive like witches, and we’re going to run them till they drop. Seems this new refreshed Model 3, has come of age…it’s what it always wanted to be. Pure class. We’re pushing 70, and we know we’d get used to those ‘stalkless’ steering wheel controls, in the blink of an eye. If our kid’s were young still, I guess they’d appreciate the rear screen and controls. I believe there’s an LED light strip round the interior, which they’d love…and which I would immediately turn off. This is a tour de force. Hopefully, there’ll be a glut of cheap second hand Teslas on the market as a result.
Brilliant Robert and Team for getting your hands on this! Great video and just too bad you did not show the headlights on as well as turn signals front and rear. No video yet has shown that...did Tesla tell you not to show this? Also, looking forward to seeing you and the gang again next weekend at FCL Vancouver!
I'm really not keen on the indicator and the shift stick going. I really think the parking sensors should have been kept as well. If the Model Y goes the same route when my lease is up I'll get something else.
Looks substantially more mature and handsome than the previous M3 without the fugly front end. Now looks thoroughly well resolved. NOW, I would consider one
Love the interior with the exception of the new rear screen, too small and way too low… motion sickness barf bags should come with the car… plus I dislike the cheaper to make, cheaper looking headlights and bumper assemblies … Miss the marker lights/fog light assemblies along with the low brake cooling intake scoops etc… insurance companies must have been screaming for Tesla to cheapen it up! Not a fan.
That's all it really needs. The last interior refresh was pretty good, too, IMO. Would be nice if they added the power frunk, tho. Hopefully, it will be an option in the Tesla store like the garage door opener.
Lot of things are improved. I'm not sure if like the rear design, removal of fog lamps and big no no is the removal stalks in the steering... thats really bad.
CD = 2.19, very low. Well done. Side impact improvement. Good news. Acoustic glass all around. 2,000,000 Model 3 cars in service. NOW 17 speakers. Loved your review, Sir. .
@@Munkeh102 Agreed - especially in the UK, where I live... and for the vast majority, they're either small enough you indicate before joining (mini-roundabouts, etc), or they're big enough that you don't need to turn the wheel to the point you can't reach the indicator buttons. Don't get me wrong - I'm *not* a fan of this change (and I really prefer the indicator on the right, cos RHD), but I do think there is a bit of over-reaction here.
If you drive the car for about two days, you’ll memorize the button layout without even thinking about it. It’s really not that huge of a deal. I drive my wife’s model x with the yoke from time to time and the steering controls feel great. The only think that was an issue for me is the horn not being under the center “button”. That’s all
I own a 2021 model 3 and my complaints are road noise, suspension is too hard, rough, no ambiant lighting and paint quality! Looking forward to test drive that car! Hope they improved the paint quality
Tesla makes it "stalkless" for manufacturing optimisation, but I'm sure some clever after-market outfit will make "adapt-a-stalk" type add-ons which will link to the car's control system, much like those very popular hexagonal "control buttons" that can be stuck wherever the user wishes.
All mostly improvements, but I saw this coming, the capacitive buttons - especially the turn signals, I was hoping wouldn't make it over. But at least the horn is still in the only acceptable place, rather than where they put it on the other models. Had they made the horn capacitive, that would have been a deal-breaker for me, because that is just plain not safe at all and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Glad some sense made it to the Model 3 regarding that perplexing decision. Minimalism should not impede the use of the vehicle and definitely should not impede the safety.
nothing is safe anymore anyways anymore in this car. indicators on steering wheel and gear selector on the screen by swipe gestures is just a non sense. safety organisations should start to make something about this mess.
Why didnt they put the right turn signal on the right side of the steering wheel. And the left on the left side. Its stupid to have them stack on top of eachother. Ofcourse stocks are better, but they want to minimize parts, OK THEN PUT THE LEFT SIGNAL ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT. ATLEAST THAT. To me this is a HUGE dealbreaker. Zero thought. Even FERRARI has better turning signals & they are known for stupid things in the interior.
@@andrxmeda97 totally agree 100%. I also find the positioning with one on top of the other completely illogical. At least if you want to go digital make it logical and not randomly. LEFT for LEFT and RIGHT for RIGHT. It would still be a mess without STALKS but a bit better than what it is currently. The Ferrari makes more sense. It's still bad but les awkward. Here you really have to see where you put your fingers. While with Ferrari you know immediately where to put them. Gear selector on the main screen is also a masterclass 👌or ergonomic and industrial design. Imagine you are doing a three-point turn in a high traffic boulevard on a Monday morning and your screen is not reactive or is suddenly freezing for a few second. What are you going to do? You pray that the car in front of you going 90km/h will stop soon enough before crashing into you? at this stage i don't know anymore who's more criminal. People who designed that? or safety organisation who allowed that? Anyhow even before that, the lack of instrument cluster, CarPlay and parking sensor were already deal breaker for me. This killed it totally.
@@andrxmeda97With the conventional lever method of turn signals one would raise it to turn right and lower it to turn left… buttons one above the other don’t seem so radically different in concept - nor difficult to master. I guess some people will find it awkward, at first. I doubt that vehicle sales numbers will be negatively affected by this feature. We’ll see though. Cheers.
@@gwarlow The problem comes when the buttons are upside down or sided by side. at 270 degrees of turn the right indicator will be the left button at the bottom of the wheel and the left indicator will be the right button.
Robert matches my sentiment here "I don't know if I like it more? I'd say I like it about the same" 👍🏻😁 This is an insane value though in the ev space globally speaking for that price full stop! Bravo to tesla for managing such a feat. 😎 Is that glass roof heavily tinted now? In the driving portions it seemed very dark overall. Nice imo as it lets in so much light&heat in climates like the one I live in(ATL GA.
Thanks for the update, as always. I was hoping it might be a hatchback but clearly not. 5% by improving the Cd reminds me of the early Audi 100 (now A6) which achieved great economy by being the slippiest car in its day, for a saloon car.
Maybe helpful and doesn’t necessarily save the lack of stalks, but the blinkers actually turn themselves off cleverly based on what the camera sees. Maybe they think they can perfect auto blinkers?
I miss that you did not open the frunk og boot. That said I would like a Y/3 hybrid. Essentially a model 3 size with they Y boot and air suspicion so low when driving on highway and high for snow and gravel. Perhaps a extra high setting when exiting and entering the car and to get unstuck driving under 5kph
I know the exterior changes are only subtle but that looks infinitely better than the current Model 3. It's a shame that they don't make an estate version, that would be tough to beat - but maybe by time I'm ready for a new car!
How come 99.9% of these Tesla 3 refresh reviews skip the MOST important "feature" or rather improvement? That being a vehicle where most of it chassis is created using a GIGA press machine, making thousands of small parts obsolete. Also much better electrical connections in this model, 4x better cameras, etc. Seriously, you all review the most obvious and pointless things, which are apparent to the eye. Like new lights and slightly different curves. SERIOUSLY what has reviewing cars become nowadays?
Robert et al, can you clarify something about gear selection? The interface appears different than S and X with the left of screen swipe feature for gear selection. How did it operate in this test vehicle?
Love the interior lighting, rear screen is cool. But I Hate the lack of stalks! Also thought they were finally going to put a small screen in front of the steering wheel or even a HUD.
I waited over a year for a model S and gave up only to be told it wasn’t going to be sold anyway. The one issue I have with model 3’s - everyone’s got one!
They can install airbags that open to the outside, so the car does not take as strong a hit when another car or object hits the body. You should be able to close the door so it's about 2 inches open, then the door takes over and closes itself, without a bang. When all cars become quieter because they no longer use engines, then the sound insulation should not be as relevant. Reduce and eliminate road noise that comes from a rough road by eliminating the sound at the source, the tires, shock absorbers, etc, not after the noise is created.
I really hope Tesla can get their FSD ready and legal soon because they seem to be making their cars less and less drivable. Really dislike the removal of stalks and everything being controlled by a touchscreen or touch-sensitive buttons.
If you drive correctly, your hands are at the right location and it oddly just makes sense. I've just done 6000km with my Model X Plaid and have no real issues with the indicator buttons, and even think they're preferred over the stalks when using autopilot lane changes.
@@WouterHermans As long as you're not using them while making tight turns it's fine. But in roundabouts for example you'll sometimes have to use them while your arms are crossed and they're upside down. I think that's very inconvenient and removes focus from the road.
@@ThorRavnsborg I have one and I disagree. Just keep your hands on the wheel, and oddly enough your thumb ends up right at the right button in each case. It was really an aha moment when I realised my thumb would perfectly line up with the right button.
@@WouterHermans Happy to hear that. Maybe there's hope then. I don't have enough experience with it to know for sure whether I could get used to it but I have spoken to other owners of newer Model S and X who say that they still hate it after having driven their cars for several thousand km.
@@rogerstarkey5390 My guess would be 5 years after they show the first look. Thats based on the Tesla Lorry, CyberTruck, Roadster2. The Model 2 will kill the Model 3 in Europe
Robert does the best car reviews! None of this "design language" crap. Notices the details that an average non-petrolhead driver cues to. I really appreciate that he's the one who got to do the first drive for Fully Charged.
"chunky"... love it, lol.
Great comment, thank you
The best car reviews? You have to be joking or you just haven't seen content from the best automotive journalists in the world, because you are both objectively and subjectively wrong. I like Robert but he is by no means the best at reviewing cars.
"Design language crap" aka the Ionic 6.
100% agree, Excellent review.
Kudos to Robert for first global drive of this car 🎉
Mat Watson would like to talk to you
@@deadpoet566 Mat Watson didn’t drive it …
I just hope they will refresh the MODEL Y to be the OFF-ROAD brother of the Model 3, and justify the higher price by adding active air suspension, integrated sunroof covers, and maybe even an extra paid option for flood/deep water resistance up to the door handles at least, so we can trully have peace of mind in case of emergencies. (Electric vehicles can be the true conquers of hurricanes and flooding since they don't rely on air intake for driving, and they could introduce shutters for the cabin air intake, to protect it against dirty flood water, and recirculate the cabin air trough propper filters to help the air quality while in deep water.)
Mat 'not wowed' Watson did not drive it. @@deadpoet566
@@deadpoet566 Drive - verb: To operate and control the direction and speed of a motor vehicle.
Ex. "he got into his car and drove off"
Screen for the backseat added but not for the driver is insane. Our backseat is empty almost always.
You don’t need one, I’ve driven for 5 years without one and never cared. The speed read out is literally easier to see than looking down. You don’t even NEED a HUD since the speedo is within peripheral vision and it’s easy to see, that is if you have a brain cell or two.
@@MrLSDownlinerok but you still don’t explain how a screen in the back is needed
Why not? I know for a fact my kids would love to have a screen there. It's completely sperate blue tooth setup so you can connect headphones to it, it's an extremely easy to use to control climate as well. Sounds like you love plastic vents. The question isn't why is it needed, the question is why is it such a problem for you? it's a luxury addition for a sub 40k car and just cause OP has no kids or no friends that sit in the backseat means other people are just like him. MOST have kids that like entertainment, you dolt. @@Eric_Garrison
@@Eric_GarrisonObviously not for you. For your passengers comfy and entertaining.
+cooled seats
+lights
+noise reduction (hopefuly)
+rear display
-top speed
-blinker and gear selector stick.
For me a huge minus not having sticks. I really love the actual control of the stick to activate/deactivate autopilot and set into Neutral and wipers.
I am hesitant to replace my M3 when the time comes.
the turn signal buttons on the wheel itself is a deal breaker for me. Stupid design. Even dangerous.
Its stupid to have them stack on top of eachother.
Ofcourse stocks are better, but they want to minimize parts, OK THEN PUT THE LEFT SIGNAL ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT.
The lack of turn signal levers is troublesome. There are plenty of roundabouts here in Sweden, and the law here says you blink right when you drive out of the roundabout (lefthand drive in Sweden), and if you don’t you will get fined if you are caught by the police.
Indeed, what is wrong with a stalk? Also, I've only ever driven a Model Y, but where is the drive mode i.e. park, reverse, drive etc. (screen?..) Also how to do you engage autopilot without the drive mode stalk? (screen?...) I think being hell bent on getting rid of something that has been the same on a steering wheel since forever is going in the wrong direction.. With my hand I can flick and press buttons rather quickly instead of fumbling to look for them or think about what button, rotary switch on a rotating steering wheel.. Also what about people who drive multiple vehicles, like a company vehicle? Keeping a few things common with other vehicles is a good thing for familiarity. I like what Tesla has done, but keep a few tactile items at my reach please!
It's really not hard to use the turn indicator buttons. It takes maybe a week to get used to it. I have it on the Model X yoke. It's actually safer in the sense that you can keep both hands on the wheel while pressing the indicator.
You’ll get used to it, you will get used to knowing where they are on the wheel. It takes maybe 3-4 days, maybe 2 weeks if you’re really stupid. Just cause something has been there since the beginning of driving cars, doesn’t mean it can’t be changed, you’re just afraid of it, afraid of learning something new and you don’t like evolution in “the way is always been done” that mentality is weak af, 10 ply really.
Indeed. There are in fact already companies which have announced that they will offer third party solutions. I think that's a great idea.
Aftermarket coming soon
has a touch of the S in its styling and interior and OOH I love the ultra Red
Would Sir like his Tesla in colour? That'll be £2100 please.
Thankfully, it has a round steering wheel.
Absolutely. First thing I thought: it’s a model S 😂
I thought it was the roadster
@@snitox lol... um.. no..
The noise is one of my biggest complaints with my previous M3 and current MY. But you have to factor in that the roads in Norway are very noisy too. This summer I was driving in Denmark and I was shocked with how quiet my car suddenly was. So if you feel this on is better than the one you have back in England, it might just be verry quiet.
Yea my 2023 Model y is too quiet. It’s 5x more quiet than my old gasser but I need it to be even quieter. Ffs
BMW m3?
@@kevinpeo99m = model
I find my level jumps up and down depending on the roads here in the UK, but the lack of engine noise to hide the fact they built the road badly is noticeable when you're on a rough one!
You haven’t had a ride in my Renault R4 from 69 that’s a noisy ride!!!
Still no speed indicator right behind the wheel though. That's one thing I hated when test driving the Model Y, having to turn my head away from the road just to see how fast I was driving
You get used to it really quickly and it's closer to your line of sight than the rear view mirror.
How often do you need to check your speed? Hopefully you turn your head to check all your mirrors more often than you check your speed. If not you should take a bus.
The speed readout is literally within peripheral vision and you shouldn’t have to turn your head at all if you’re looking forward. The speed readout is large and clear to see from the driver seat.
Take a look at the new "Mini" (it's not!)
Centre Speedo.
Let's see how many moan about it?
Look at it (or not) this way.
Looking at that number takes less time and eye movement than glancing at *any* manual knob/ lever/ switch/ indicator that you used in the past to change any setting the infotainment, climate or other features..... And you DID look, even if you think you didn't.
ALL of that distraction is removed by one scroll button and a voice command.
Love everything except those turning indicator buttons that just are going to be a disaster in roundabouts and other high turning situations where we will be looking for the buttons as was the case with the old horn.
Tesla wants to punish drivers who make the mistake of living in a country with roundabouts!💩
I agree how can the indicator work on a roundabout? It's going to get messy trying to signal to exit a roundabout... or will the car work that bit out?
@@stickleback73 Simple: It doesn't. :) I abandoned the new model S because of this exact same stupid thing. Buttons on the steering wheel simply doesn't work in roundabouts. They're never in the same spot when you need them. Can't be used without looking down.
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneckSo we have the choice between a country with roundabouts or a country where we have to worry about our kids being shot up at school.
Seems straightforward - could be mistaken.
Thanks for the review Robert. Indicators on buttons the steering wheel - an absolute car crash in my opinion. I have been using the flappy paddle regen controls on our Ioniq 6 recently to switch modes as I slow down to stop and again when I speed up from stationary, for reasons that aren’t important here. My observation from doing this is that unless the steering wheel is pretty close to its normal resting position, it isn’t possible for me to get my head around where the flappy paddles are, because they are bolted to the back of the steering wheel. When I am slowing down or pulling away from stationary, the steering wheel is often not straight, and it is just not possible to find the paddles. Now think indicators, and think how often you turn them on or off when the wheel is not straight. For example, UK road rules for roundabouts require you to change your indicators mid way round, and for many of the smaller ones, the wheel is nowhere near straight for the duration of being on the roundabout. Now think having to find these indicator buttons that are not where they are supposed to be - and you will be able to imagine just how silly they will be to use. Unless, of course, I am the only person in world who would get thrown off by this. I suppose we will find out.
I agree the indicators just wont be safe on UK roads. Surely this cant be allowed?
Looks better,
No indicator/whiper stalk is a bad direction.
No camera mirrors yet 😟
I think there's a legal/regulation issue in the US with using camera mirrors so they would have to be an option rather than standard. Maybe Tesla decided it wasn't worth doing until the US allows them
See Petrolped's review of the Hyundai IONIQ6 he didn't like them on that at all and with good reasons. Normal mirror you move your head about and what you see changes so you see much more - camera mirrors nothing so right now they are totally inferior.
A huge testament to all your hard work Robert and the team you've built up around you - I'm a follower since I bought my first EV (Nissan Leaf) what feels like a lifetime ago. Congrats on this first drive and thank you for everything you do.
Good grief. You do know that he isn't going to have sex with you, right?
@@lukedogwalker I think you’ve grossly misunderstood how car reviews work
@@lukedogwalker Kryton would definitely clean his clogs...
Do you think you’re gonna buy a Tesla someday?
@@chezchezchezchez Perhaps - my family need a little more legroom on the second row so I’m absolutely delighted with our Mustang right now.
Another possible benefit might be that, a bunch more model 3s will hit the second hand market.
And all those who were saying
"WAH!!! can't afford an EV!!" will be dropping their upper price another 5k....
Particularly if they are eyeing the leg room while still wanting the fuel efficiency or their children are getting older like those going from Model 3 to Model Y when it became available.
Hi, do you know you can get a refurbished model3 Ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 17 grand since it's refurbished
Well, I'm not sure about the £17k, but yes I did know Tesla sells second hand Tesla cars. Kind of the point of my original comment. @@a.ctlyzer
@@kalebdaark100 yea man, they're basically discounted and you get them from being a staff or a family member, it's also limited too. I got a referral but I can only grant permission to 3 people to use max
Good review as ever. The deletion of the indicator stalks seems rather dangerous and unintuitive to use requiring eyes off road especially on a round about. Perhaps this is the BMWisation of Tesla. Like the new front end view. Gone is the duck face. How does one indicate when half way around a roundabout? (ie with steering wheel half way around and everything is reversed)
Because they want to compare Ferrari.
@@GF-mf7ml Cheers. Tesla are no Ferrari, mondoe's with interiors by Ikea perhaps.
While I'm not sure about the button idea instead of the stalks, the functionality of the indicator switching on the one I've been driving is my least favourite thing.
But I'm sure the glass roof will bug me when the Australian summer comes. And the cooling needed to make up for it would have to affect the range.
People talking to me on the phone haven't realised that I was driving. So it wasn't an issue.
does the shades make much of a difference?
Yes as a Honolulu, Hawai’i resident I can tell you that the glass roof, even with an extra 35% ceramic tint, I loose range because I have to keep my a/c between 6 & 8 fan speed and between LO & 65°F (17°C) in my ‘23 Model Y.
My friend has a Model Y and the screen he bought on Amazon and it cuts the heat much more than just tint, he has 5% ceramic tint on the roof.
@@pakosouthparkyes the one from Amazon does help
@@J.Young808 window tint isn't against sun heat-up, even the opposite because the colour. Good for sun-ray,uv,privacy
Getting rid of the indicator stalk is a mistake , especially in the UK when your going around large roundabouts when you need to change lanes ! Otherwise I want one.
I've never seen a stork indicating but I guess they flap their wing differently to indicate they're turning in that direction... 😁
@@stepheneyles2198 sorry, spelling mistake corrected !
Just got back from 4 days in the UK with my Model X Plaid with the buttons and yoke. Absolutely no problem, and on autopilot it's so easy to have your arm on the door, your hand at the steering wheel, and just push a button to auto change lanes.
I was already not getting one because they're much too expensive, but not adding a drivers screen and making you take your hand off the wheel mid-manoeuvre are real marks against it.
1:14 😅 Franz and the team must of been glad to hear that comment. Headlights are totally different (almost like the Roadster lights), fog lamps have gone, the duck bill has gone, and the air intake is different.
I very recently had a 21 plate Model 3 LR loaner for 3 weeks and it is a fabulous car. I normally drive a Model S and I do like the smaller dimensions of the Model 3. I do miss the extra information that the screen in front of you gives you in the Model S, so I would probably get an aftermarket screen or heads up if/when I move to the Model 3. The improved refinements of the 'facelift' Model 3 will simply make it an even more compelling buy. The combination of better efficiency, longer range and faster charging will make a noticeable change on very long trips.
I had the chance to drive a Model X Plaid from Gothenburg to Vänersborg (about 1 hours drive) and noticed that having indicators on the steering wheel (or yoke in this case) was only a good thing as long as I was driving on the highway, with the yoke more or less straight all the time. As soon as I got on smaller roads with round-abouts, it became a real pain in the backside, since I often had to click the indicator button while it was out of reach when turning the yoke... I like progess and all, but some things are better as they are... The new Model 3 looks very interesting - I have no doubt I will get to drive one of those too very soon.
The comment I was looking for .. this thing sounds like a real pain for Europeans with tons of roundabouts, curvy roads and everything,..
I don't understand why Tesla's can't just be good cars to use, they are deliberately painful to use... (Turn on wipers, open glovebox, use indicators, use Android auto...)
I’d reckon that it’s because Tesla is an American car company and there are hardly any roundabouts in America at all. You’d think Tesla could bother to take feedback from their EU customers or, at least, send some engineers to Europe (or in all parts of the world they sell their cars, since other countries might have differences too) to see how well their designs work in those places. It’s not like they can’t build different spec models, they already adopted the EU plug standard while still using their own proprietary standard in the US (which will be part of the new NACS standard starting in ’24/’25).
Sounds like it was very similar to the previous model 3. The improvements was mostly in areas that was already quite good. The removal of stalks is a huge disappointment, though not surprising. The improvement in cabin noise might be imperceptible, just like it was with the last facelift. Ventilated seats and a new front camera is good improvements. I hope it will get a 360 view.
Just like Toyota Hilux. They are almost the same.
the removal of stalks is a showstopper for me. They are always cutting corners over convenience to the customer.
What is wrong with removing the stalks?
I don’t own a Tesla. Never have. It’s a beautiful car. As I read through the comments what strikes me is the difficulty people have adjusting to change.. “It’s not like my Chevy!” or “I can’t figure out where the controls are!” - When I see my twenty something kids handle their iPhone and all of its settings I realize my inadequacy at using the iPhone 😀 isn’t an iPhone problem, it’s a me problem. My kids are good at using their iPhone because they handle it frequently. I’m sure the Tesla is the same - you have to use it a few times before you understand it and you have to be willing to adjust to the new normal. I’m not insulting anyone - I’m older than most people reading this. This is wonderful and cool technology created by creative young people - just have to roll with the changes and embrace them.
I love this refresh but hate no stalks..everything else is fire
Having no stocks is great, one you get used to it after a week. You will hate going back to stocks
@@calebbarry3977and how do you indicate in a roundabout?
@@bastianm5478exactly, the muppet above is still thinking about it 😂 Just another delusional Tesla fanboy
@@bastianm5478 i click it with my finger..? You do you use the stocks in a round about? With your finger! Also usually you don’t click it in a round about, it stays on with the auto turn signal feature
@@calebbarry3977 How to you singnal your exit if your not using the indicator on the roundabout?
Bloody amazing folks from RUclips and EV focused channel’s are getting first go’s at these cars.
Channels*
stand corrected @@davidmorse6290
Gorgeous white ventilated seats, ambient lighting, top class touchscreen system and rear entertainment system, 17 speakers, crazy performance, beautiful design. Model 3 is now truly a luxury car.
This is a joke,right?
They did a lot of things to lower the drag coefficient, due to this the car looks better than the previous version.
But.. why did they - yet again - mount asymmetrical and non-directional wheels?The wheels on the passenger side (LHD) are ' rotating the wrong way'. Surely mounting symmetrical wheels would improve drag and wind noise ever so slightly.
It amazes me how that “turn signal button” thing got approved.. going around a roundabout will be next to impossible and probably be responsible for a lot of dangerous situations…
No need to sugarcoat it. People will 100% crash because of this. That alone is a good reason to avoid it if you have roundabouts on your work commute. The question is, will there be aftermarket fixes?
Yes, US don't have roundabouts but here in Europe...
@@nicodonaldThe US is a very big country and there are roundabouts. We just may not always use our turn signals 😅
Here in California we have a large roundabout near my residence and I have to admit I’m not sure I ever use the turn signal, it’s not that I’m negligent, it’s just not necessary. Are European roundabouts different than ours in the US ?
@@nicodonald Roundabout are being aggressively deployed in the USA, but they're mostly small ones. So I rarely see any turn-signals other than for a simple right turn .
The first thing I noticed was the absence of front fog lights. Subtle changes. I like it.
Hot car
The fog lights are built into the headlight units. How efffective - dunno.
@@anxiousappliance yep, daylight/running, always on and work for fog too it looks like.
I thought they were going to put the turn button on the bottom of either side. That's intuitive.
Nice looking car, but those lack of stalks will drive me mad. Be interested to see what the ride quality is like….
Tesla always seem to get a free pass from the fans with stupid design decisions like that.
I dont understand how you will indicate to exit a roundabout, how will this actually work? I already cant turn the windscreen wipers on without asking my partner to do it for me!
On the current Model 3 just press the button on the end of the indicator to make it clean the screen once, then a small menu pops up on the screen and you can select on/off/auto etc (or whatever the options are..)
This is the best review I’ve seen so far of the revised Model 3. Probably because you are a Model 3 owner so really know the cars strengths and weaknesses unlike the majority of reviewers who only get a short time with a car.
Thanks for a great review Robert. I only just got my Model 3 thanks to Fully Charged Harrogate so in many respects I'm selfishly glad the upgrade is evolutional rather than revelational 🤣 I'm (personally) not sold on the indicators as buttons idea though
I was thinking of changing my model S to a three but seeing that it now has no stalks has changed my purchase decision.
Needs a hatchback, sad that stalks are gone, hud would be nice
The Y is a hatchback
Lack of indicator stalks is a big issue for me.
It's barely a hiccup to me
How do you activate the screen wash? 🤷🏻♂️
Being able to fix your own vehicle is an important factor.
Wealthy people never bothered, but for the masses, it is important.
Mass movement against the elite world is dangerous to EV take up.
Backyard industries are important.
Front end no longer looks like a fish faced vintage hoover so that’s a bonus!
I like my vintage hoover, but like Robert, I want this one. And I just noticed why. No stupid holes in the front for air to the brakes or whatever. Who wants to wash that? The best hole is no hole?
💯
Thanks Robert. I bought a used Nissan Leaf after watching many of your video's. I hope it becomes more affordable to buy a Tesla in the future.
Once these hit the UK the early model 3s will be more affordable on the used market. They've already come down a fair bit this year.
I did the same. Had a 2015 Leaf to "learn" how to own an EV. Robert's video on the Gen2 Leaf a few years ago convinced me to upgrade this year. I love my Leaf. But not gonna lie...I'm itching for this latest Model 3 :)
Tesla are woefully incapable of making affordable cars.
Except the lack of stocks for turn signal and gear. I think it's definitely improved
It’s a nice car but this is the reason I’ll never buy a model 3
*stalks not stocks
@@swiaxy I know, but apparently autocorrect doesn't
Everytime I drive through Germany it surprises me that I rarely see a Tesla on the road there. All that wihile driving south from Scandinavia where Tesla’s are everywhere.
I remember when the first full screen mobile phones started….and the complains (including me) about the lack of key boards…and here we go…we survived and are well and no complaining
I’d have liked to hear what the ride is now like with the improvements to the suspension.
Indeed
Well, without driving old and new, on roads that you know, on the same day, preferably with a meter, that's quite hard to determine, isn't it?
It's night and day difference. Got a test ride at the Tesla event in Norway earlier today.
@@leanderkim assuming it was on the LR with the upgraded 19" right?
The suspension on the current model 3 is probably the worst aspect of the car, so an improvement is definitely required. If I change to the new version this would certainly be a big reason.
I heard that newer battery technology (announced from CATL?) is coming next year with significantly improved range. If that’s true, then that would be more of a game changer than this. If that’s not the case, then this revision will still be available then (with all the potential first generation issues dealt with).
A lower drag coefficient in turn, means that if it isn't electronically throttled (which I assume the Performance version will not be), it should be even faster!
In essence, ALL EVs are electronically throttled, since that is the whole of the signal.
As a Model Y driver, I have two frustrations with current Teslas: You can't unplug the charge cable without either going into the app or climbing into the car to press the screen, and the lack of support for Android Auto and Apple Player (both of which are superior for media and navigation). Other than that, the car is good to drive and incredibly efficient compared to other electric cars i've owned.
The loss of the turn signal stalk is a total mistake. I'm waiting on a Model Y order and I'm glad I got in before this happens to the Y because I already know it will be my first and last Tesla.
I agree with others, the turn signal buttons is madness! Also I hate the fact that most controls are through the screen. Those 2 things for me mean it’s waaay into deal breaking territory. I was really hoping for a really meaningful upgrade of practical improvements together with much better looks. Tesla should get there act together a lot more than this and I mean pdq!
You can do most things via voice controls too
Tesla should get their act together??? LOL! Tesla is so far ahead that second place needs the hubble telescope to see them. But I guess I am just a fanboy.
Heads up speed display would have been a great improvement.
@@BasementTracks Yes, you are
Still the iPad instead of real controls.😢
10/10 video 🔥
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Why would you want to repair it? If you have an accident so big it damages the battery then that car is a total write off. The battery will then be recycled for its minerals and materials.
Lack of stalks is a deal breaker. Hopefully this is like the yolk rollout and they eventually provide an option to get a steering wheel with stalks and center mounted horn.
It has a center mounted horn.
Deal breaker for me too. Why did they do this?
USA-centric design where they don't have roundabouts and/ or understand the need to use indicators mid-turn... One of the stupidest design choices I've seeon on a car and surprised they could even get type approval for it tbh..
I currently have a September '21 SR+ MIC (half way through a lease..), and this certainly would be a deal breaker for any upgrade but largely sick of the build quality anyway (and appalling suspension) so it doesn't really bother me..
Absolutely a dealbreaker for me.
Not a big deal! People afraid of change.
Horn in the middle of the steering wheel should come to Model S/X soon.
No comment on any review so far about gear selector, so I assume it’s either auto-selected on vision, or swipey-swipey like in the S/X
Cooled seats is a big deal for me. Luxury feature. More range is always good.
Only negative seems like the indicators.
Beautiful upgrade. Can’t wait for Juniper Y!!! ❤
This is definately on my list, especially the standard range with the pricing below £40k! The suspension being softened is welcomed by me due to having a bad neck and feeling every bump!
Always love Roberts reviews, been awhile since he has and glad he was the one to do it. Nothing against Jack just sometimes good to have the every'man' view rather than specialist view. :) Personally I wouldn't buy it and am not a Tesla owner and won't be but appreciate what they have done for the industry as a whole.
I think the indicator switches will just mean tesla drivers won’t indicate on roundabouts. TeslaBjorn found them unworkable. Such an odd decision to make the car less safe.
Just like an Audi driver then 😉
So much better looking than the first version of the Model 3, but how is anyone going to indicate properly on roundabouts in this car? By all means move the gear selector to the screen, even the wipers, but the indicators should have been left in place. Here in Europe, roundabouts are everywhere, and you’re supposed to signal for safety and traffic-flow reasons. It’s a fantastic car but I’ll stick with the older model for now until the new indicator setup has been tested out in real world conditions.
1:30 - Fog lamp is fog lamp only if it is as low, close to the ground as possible, where fog is less dense because of warmer ground.
Tesla is good, but I got BYD atto3, not only 25K cheaper, but the comfort riding, smart system and quality interior, extra screen under steering wheel, power discharge can do electronic barbecue, mov the lawns et al. Blade battery is super resilient, will extensive charging without drop the kms over the time of use.
Lack of indicator stalks and drive selector will take a lot of getting used to. It’s a shame they also didn’t take the opportunity to make it into a hatchback as part of the changes.
Getting used to??? How do you indicate off a tight roundabout when you have a random amout of lock on the steering? Sounds like the sketchiest car out there.
@@InquisitiveBaldManThat won’t be a problem for BMW drivers then … 😂
@@InquisitiveBaldMan we are humans, we adapt quickly but we don’t like change. It’s one of our dichotomies 😂
@@devonbikefilms On every different size of roundabout or corner you want to indicate on, the indicator will be in a completely different place.... its like a worse version of someone randomly swapping the stalks, every time you drive the car... People just wont indicate when they have 2 and 3/4 turns of lock on. People just wont do it. This thing is built for simple american instersections and nothing else. Its really poor design for most of the world. Tesla will change it eventually. Guarenteed.
@@InquisitiveBaldMan Even on the same roundabouts and corners you can end up with slightly different amounts of lock. There's alot of people who seem to think they're on a track when driving and keep their hands locked to the wheel, not sure how they manage tight turns but my guess is their experience is in America where that's not a problem.
Came for the excitement about a new tesla, stayed for this hilarious dude :D
He seems like a great guy, but he’s not very funny
Kryten would disagree 😂
Not that I'm likely to be able to justify the cost of a new vehicle but those steering wheel buttons for the indicators would be a deal breaker for me.
I had a seriously industrial injury in the 80's to my left thumb (Crush injury) and have serious limited movement with it.
Also, Those tail lights look nice... Does Polestar know they've nicked them ?
Do a cross count of tech "nicked" by each.
Tesla probably has more complaint?
The rear lights are different because they are one piece instead of split, and look good in my opinion. There is also interior lighting strips around the dash and trim. A lot of the upgrades to this car are available as accessories to the current model 3 as current owners will attest.
I got a badass light kit lightning bug tech they're called I highly recommend them!!! 300$ 210 modes, it comes with a drunk light, center console light, dashboard lights, Footwell lights an back seat rest lights!! For my standard range model 3! It's plug n play the rear vent is the power source! So no need to worry about software locked
Looks pretty cool and a fairly easy install.@@MadmaxMusic93
those new tail lights may be illegal in the US. I believe the regulations require tail light be visible to approaching traffic if the trunk or tailgate is open.
Wow watched this last night at 12.15 just after you put it up. We have now just ordered one. :) 😀
One useful addition (that should be standard on all EVs, actually) would be a charging port on either side of the vehicle.
And yes, a Model 2 (small hatchback) and a Model 1 (micro 2-seater? think Smart for2) would be really, really nice.
You mean both sides?
With Tesla optimizing for cost I don't see that. For their superchargers they are nearly all built to have it on that spot.
For UK I guess it's a downside to have it not on the driver side when you park in your garage.
For street charge parking - how is it in UK? closer to the curb but instead a handle sticking out that people in the moment can be enticed to mess with.
@@subwarpspeed in the UK it's probably find, but in countries that drive on the right (i.e. correct :)) side of the street the plug sticks out into the street and becomes a hazard for cyclists.
The objectively best place for a charging port would be on the passenger side (as that's where curbside chargers are) somewhere between the A and C pillar (so you need a minimal cable length to reach it, regardless if the charger is in front or behind the car). But since it's just a bunch of cables there should be no problem placing charge ports on both sides.
Yes, it's an additional cost, but compared to the price of a car that should be negligible. I'd be happy to pay a little more just for the convenience (and paint protection) of not having to drag a cable under/across the car, in many cases right next to traffic. At the street chargers near to my home I often see Tesla owners park on the left (i.e. against the flow of traffic, which is actually illegal on priority roads here in Austria) just to have the charge port next to the charger.
a charging port on either side of the vehicle. ......Not to mention FRONT AND REAR (Larry-Ergonomics has spoken)
We have a 2019 Model 3 SR+, and a 2021 Model Y LR. They’re fully featured cars, drive like witches, and we’re going to run them till they drop.
Seems this new refreshed Model 3, has come of age…it’s what it always wanted to be. Pure class.
We’re pushing 70, and we know we’d get used to those ‘stalkless’ steering wheel controls, in the blink of an eye.
If our kid’s were young still, I guess they’d appreciate the rear screen and controls. I believe there’s an LED light strip round the interior, which they’d love…and which I would immediately turn off.
This is a tour de force.
Hopefully, there’ll be a glut of cheap second hand Teslas on the market as a result.
Brilliant Robert and Team for getting your hands on this! Great video and just too bad you did not show the headlights on as well as turn signals front and rear. No video yet has shown that...did Tesla tell you not to show this? Also, looking forward to seeing you and the gang again next weekend at FCL Vancouver!
IMO Robert has the best expression of every auto reviewers.
I'm really not keen on the indicator and the shift stick going. I really think the parking sensors should have been kept as well. If the Model Y goes the same route when my lease is up I'll get something else.
Looks substantially more mature and handsome than the previous M3 without the fugly front end. Now looks thoroughly well resolved. NOW, I would consider one
Can we stop calling this a m3? Thats no bmw, and model 3 isnt so long to write
Love the interior with the exception of the new rear screen, too small and way too low… motion sickness barf bags should come with the car… plus I dislike the cheaper to make, cheaper looking headlights and bumper assemblies … Miss the marker lights/fog light assemblies along with the low brake cooling intake scoops etc… insurance companies must have been screaming for Tesla to cheapen it up! Not a fan.
Well said! I read the new bumper is even disliked by the car’s original designer…
@@MyEyesBled I own three, best cars ever made!
sounds like a quality evolution of the 3 vs a revolutionary change
Every Tesla undergoes periodic "revolutionary charge" without fanfare.
That's all it really needs. The last interior refresh was pretty good, too, IMO. Would be nice if they added the power frunk, tho. Hopefully, it will be an option in the Tesla store like the garage door opener.
it’s a facelift nothing more. not even V2L. and they removed the stalks.
they could have done better imho
Lot of things are improved. I'm not sure if like the rear design, removal of fog lamps and big no no is the removal stalks in the steering... thats really bad.
CD = 2.19, very low. Well done. Side impact improvement. Good news. Acoustic glass all around. 2,000,000 Model 3 cars in service. NOW 17 speakers. Loved your review, Sir.
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looks sleek in white. even though i like the "old" version, its refreshing to have a new one
Great to see a "Robert" review on fully charged! I am loving this Model 3 refresh!
Ferrari tried putting the indicators on the wheel instead of the stalk, and everyone hated it. When you turn the wheel it's rubbish.
Technically, you should be indicating *before* you turn :p
Of course, this ignores taking a turn that's on a corner, and other edge-cases...
@@logicalChimp Most of the world uses roundabouts...
@@logicalChimpnot if you are already turning like say on a roundabout
@@makkapacca Yeah you can tell Tesla is an American product...
@@Munkeh102 Agreed - especially in the UK, where I live... and for the vast majority, they're either small enough you indicate before joining (mini-roundabouts, etc), or they're big enough that you don't need to turn the wheel to the point you can't reach the indicator buttons.
Don't get me wrong - I'm *not* a fan of this change (and I really prefer the indicator on the right, cos RHD), but I do think there is a bit of over-reaction here.
If you drive the car for about two days, you’ll memorize the button layout without even thinking about it. It’s really not that huge of a deal. I drive my wife’s model x with the yoke from time to time and the steering controls feel great. The only think that was an issue for me is the horn not being under the center “button”. That’s all
I own a 2021 model 3 and my complaints are road noise, suspension is too hard, rough, no ambiant lighting and paint quality! Looking forward to test drive that car! Hope they improved the paint quality
I'm so glad Robert hosted this episode.
I'm so happy with what they did to the front end and the headlights.
Great review! I'm not sure my wife would go for the no-stalk, button controls, might be a deal breaker.
Get a new wife...🤣🤣😉
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I have had the issue with phone key every once in a while, but I like my Performance Model 3 so much I can’t see changing anything soon…? 🤷🏽🧐
Tesla makes it "stalkless" for manufacturing optimisation, but I'm sure some clever after-market outfit will make "adapt-a-stalk" type add-ons which will link to the car's control system, much like those very popular hexagonal "control buttons" that can be stuck wherever the user wishes.
All mostly improvements, but I saw this coming, the capacitive buttons - especially the turn signals, I was hoping wouldn't make it over. But at least the horn is still in the only acceptable place, rather than where they put it on the other models. Had they made the horn capacitive, that would have been a deal-breaker for me, because that is just plain not safe at all and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Glad some sense made it to the Model 3 regarding that perplexing decision. Minimalism should not impede the use of the vehicle and definitely should not impede the safety.
nothing is safe anymore anyways anymore in this car. indicators on steering wheel and gear selector on the screen by swipe gestures is just a non sense. safety organisations should start to make something about this mess.
Why didnt they put the right turn signal on the right side of the steering wheel. And the left on the left side. Its stupid to have them stack on top of eachother.
Ofcourse stocks are better, but they want to minimize parts, OK THEN PUT THE LEFT SIGNAL ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT. ATLEAST THAT.
To me this is a HUGE dealbreaker. Zero thought. Even FERRARI has better turning signals & they are known for stupid things in the interior.
@@andrxmeda97 totally agree 100%. I also find the positioning with one on top of the other completely illogical. At least if you want to go digital make it logical and not randomly.
LEFT for LEFT and RIGHT for RIGHT. It would still be a mess without STALKS but a bit better than what it is currently.
The Ferrari makes more sense. It's still bad but les awkward. Here you really have to see where you put your fingers. While with Ferrari you know immediately where to put them.
Gear selector on the main screen is also a masterclass 👌or ergonomic and industrial design.
Imagine you are doing a three-point turn in a high traffic boulevard on a Monday morning and your screen is not reactive or is suddenly freezing for a few second.
What are you going to do? You pray that the car in front of you going 90km/h will stop soon enough before crashing into you?
at this stage i don't know anymore who's more criminal. People who designed that? or safety organisation who allowed that?
Anyhow even before that, the lack of instrument cluster, CarPlay and parking sensor were already deal breaker for me. This killed it totally.
@@andrxmeda97With the conventional lever method of turn signals one would raise it to turn right and lower it to turn left… buttons one above the other don’t seem so radically different in concept - nor difficult to master. I guess some people will find it awkward, at first. I doubt that vehicle sales numbers will be negatively affected by this feature. We’ll see though. Cheers.
@@gwarlow The problem comes when the buttons are upside down or sided by side. at 270 degrees of turn the right indicator will be the left button at the bottom of the wheel and the left indicator will be the right button.
Robert matches my sentiment here "I don't know if I like it more? I'd say I like it about the same" 👍🏻😁
This is an insane value though in the ev space globally speaking for that price full stop! Bravo to tesla for managing such a feat. 😎
Is that glass roof heavily tinted now? In the driving portions it seemed very dark overall. Nice imo as it lets in so much light&heat in climates like the one I live in(ATL GA.
It does have UV protection. Don't know if the previous one didn't though.
Previous one did
Thanks for the update, as always. I was hoping it might be a hatchback but clearly not. 5% by improving the Cd reminds me of the early Audi 100 (now A6) which achieved great economy by being the slippiest car in its day, for a saloon car.
CD 0.30...Audi made such a big deal of it...
@@okeyezeilo6187 Times change, technology improves. VDT and all that.
Yeah, I'd want a hatchback. But that would cut into the Model Y's sales ... Elon has thought this out. Gotta have Capitalism
Maybe helpful and doesn’t necessarily save the lack of stalks, but the blinkers actually turn themselves off cleverly based on what the camera sees. Maybe they think they can perfect auto blinkers?
I miss that you did not open the frunk og boot. That said I would like a Y/3 hybrid. Essentially a model 3 size with they Y boot and air suspicion so low when driving on highway and high for snow and gravel. Perhaps a extra high setting when exiting and entering the car and to get unstuck driving under 5kph
Interior led wrap around and overall looks is like a starship cockpit. ❤
I would imagine that when driving in really dark areas that the position of the mood lighting would be very distracting.
Stupid implementation. Will be very distracting when driving in the dark.
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You can turn it off...
@@ogzombieblunt4626 So what's the point. If you like mood lighting then they should have placed it lower in the car.
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The point is you can easily turn it off if ur in a dark area. I wouldn't find it anymlre distracting than the screen or a HUD.
I know the exterior changes are only subtle but that looks infinitely better than the current Model 3.
It's a shame that they don't make an estate version, that would be tough to beat - but maybe by time I'm ready for a new car!
An estate version would cannibalize model Y market. They are also not that poplar in US due to association with the 80's station wagons.
How come 99.9% of these Tesla 3 refresh reviews skip the MOST important "feature" or rather improvement? That being a vehicle where most of it chassis is created using a GIGA press machine, making thousands of small parts obsolete. Also much better electrical connections in this model, 4x better cameras, etc. Seriously, you all review the most obvious and pointless things, which are apparent to the eye. Like new lights and slightly different curves. SERIOUSLY what has reviewing cars become nowadays?
The revised model 3 doesn’t yet use the Giga casting.
Robert et al, can you clarify something about gear selection? The interface appears different than S and X with the left of screen swipe feature for gear selection. How did it operate in this test vehicle?
Keeping the same design means economy of scale and cheaper production.
Early buyers feel included in the rollout of the newest vehicle. 😊😊😊😊
Great review made even better by Robert’s ability to compare with his own Model 3.
Love the interior lighting, rear screen is cool. But I Hate the lack of stalks!
Also thought they were finally going to put a small screen in front of the steering wheel or even a HUD.
Agree, nothing must have that would make me want to upgrade and a few things I wouldnt want. Not an improvement in my view.
‘Vegan leather’ is a euphemism for plastic.
I waited over a year for a model S and gave up only to be told it wasn’t going to be sold anyway. The one issue I have with model 3’s - everyone’s got one!
They can install airbags that open to the outside, so the car does not take as strong a hit when another car or object hits the body.
You should be able to close the door so it's about 2 inches open, then the door takes over and closes itself, without a bang.
When all cars become quieter because they no longer use engines, then the sound insulation should not be as relevant. Reduce and eliminate road noise that comes from a rough road by eliminating the sound at the source, the tires, shock absorbers, etc, not after the noise is created.
I really hope Tesla can get their FSD ready and legal soon because they seem to be making their cars less and less drivable. Really dislike the removal of stalks and everything being controlled by a touchscreen or touch-sensitive buttons.
Love everything about the new Model 3 refresh except the indicator buttons. They are horrible and a safety hazard, especially in roundabouts.
If you drive correctly, your hands are at the right location and it oddly just makes sense. I've just done 6000km with my Model X Plaid and have no real issues with the indicator buttons, and even think they're preferred over the stalks when using autopilot lane changes.
@@WouterHermans As long as you're not using them while making tight turns it's fine. But in roundabouts for example you'll sometimes have to use them while your arms are crossed and they're upside down. I think that's very inconvenient and removes focus from the road.
@@WouterHermansThey're not in the correct position for roundabouts, and there's a fuck load of those in northern Europe
@@ThorRavnsborg I have one and I disagree. Just keep your hands on the wheel, and oddly enough your thumb ends up right at the right button in each case. It was really an aha moment when I realised my thumb would perfectly line up with the right button.
@@WouterHermans Happy to hear that. Maybe there's hope then. I don't have enough experience with it to know for sure whether I could get used to it but I have spoken to other owners of newer Model S and X who say that they still hate it after having driven their cars for several thousand km.
Really hope the model 2 comes out soon so I can pick up a used one in a few years once I've had my MG4 for a while !!
Best guess
Q2-4 2025.
(15 Month site clearance, factory build, 4 month fitout/ first production)
If they prove me wrong, FANTASTIC
Buying a unicorn at the pet shop will be more likely
@@rogerstarkey5390 My guess would be 5 years after they show the first look. Thats based on the Tesla Lorry, CyberTruck, Roadster2. The Model 2 will kill the Model 3 in Europe
The turn indicator buttons are good for countries where you are required to indicate before a roundabout and not in the middle of it.
How does indicating off a tight roundabout work when the buttons are on the steering wheel? Massive design floor.