I mean it does because while he won without him it definitely would have changed the dynamics and possible made Jake select a worse answer. How aaron fell to 5 is the craziest thing
@@Whocares66672 It doesn't matter if he has to pick a worse answer if he is still winning even if he takes a 0 there. Now you could argue that someone else could have taken him but IMO in the hypothetical, you just assume nobody took him because nobody else did
@cinco_de_la_tarde someone else definitely does since he was clearly mentioned. And it does matter because he may pick a outfielder for example from a team he got a strong position elsewhere if he doesn't already have aaron. The entire draft changes so it 100% does matter. I don't get how so many people don't understand simple logic
@fuckgoogle9061 dawg, he was the 5th pick and both other players didn't take him after he was mentioned. Imo if it got passed Jake, there would be a gentleman's agreement not to take him. They've done that for big totals in the past
hah loved Johnny Bench as a kid. I met him once at his book signing, asked him if he was wearing his world series ring, he says "this is a hall of fame ring young fella"
He was definitely my knee jerk 1.01 but I did consider whether it might be better to go Eddie Mathews. Big 3B number and no one gets Aaron anyway. IDK what I'd have chosen between them on the spot
@@mse326 I could have sworn Jolly mentioned blocking someone else in conjunction with mentioning Aaron's name and immediately assumed it was to take Matthews at 3B to block someone from picking Aaron.
And apparently forgot that Willie Mays played like 23 years with the Giants, just one season with another team and opted for Bonds, who played like a third of his games for the Pirates.
@@MonsieurBooyah I started the video understood the rules and thought “oh okay so Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and then Willie Mays” watching this kinda hurt my brain. Some teams were obvious who was the best and they just skip over them claiming they are “trying to pick interesting guys” when they mess up.
Because the Schwab died, I would love if you guys could ask questions from that show in honor of him. The dates are old but I would to see the questions asked none the less, and to see who could get what
Teams not picked: - Dodgers, as mentioned (Duke Snider, 389) - Rays (Evan Longoria, 261) - Padres (Nate Colbert, 163) How is that Padres number real...
Pads have never had any legitimate power guys for enough years. Winfield didn't play long enough. Gwynn wasn't a homer guy. It doesn't help them that when they had Phil Nevin and Ryan Kkesko putting up decent power numbers, they reconfigured their ballpark to move the fences back. Maybe Tatis sticks around long enough to surpass Colbert.
@@voncornhole I was playing along drafting in the 2 slot and obviously I had to overlap some teams 9x3 is already all but 3 teams couldn’t go against them all unfortunately and I picked some players before they said them it’s not a perfect list just what I came up with I always try to challenge myself by playing along normally drafting 2nd and pausing the video before the person in my position is making selection
I had to double check Baseball ref to make sure I wasn't going crazy thinking Hank Aaron should be 1.01. Then I had to check again a couple rounds later for Johnny Bench. Still a darn good team by Jake, though
I originally thought all 30 teams would have to be used, but no one said a Dodger or Padre, then I realized that only 27 teams were used, the Rays being the other odd man out
That Dan Uggla pull by Jolly. I’m proud of you! Being a Marlins fan that was my pick for a 2nd baseman everytime. 154 homeruns in 5 years is insane. Pure hitter man
You should do a most hits or RBIs draft all the same rules just different stat. And maybe lowest era draft for pitchers. Love the videos on these drafts
I know WHY they didn’t do it because it’s a research nightmare, but it would have been fun if they only counted years when a player’s primary position was that position - Cal Ripken was the obvious candidate to me, but they named a lot of guys who lose a lot of home run in that format. I think Frank Thomas only gets 200 at 1B in that format.
My list before the video started, of course I'm cheating since I got no one to compete with 😅 C: Johnny Bench - Reds = 389 1B: Mark McGuire - Cardinals = 220 2B: Robinson Cano - Yankees = 204 3B: Mike Schmidt - Phillies = 548 SS: Carl Ripken Jr. - Orioles = 431 OF: Hank Aaron - Atlanta = 733 OF: Sammy Sosa - Cubs = 545 OF: Barry Bonds - Giants = 586 DH: David Ortiz - Red Sox = 483 TOTAL = 4,139
(Respectfully) wtf was Jolly talking about with playing defense in regards to picking Hank Aaron? Is it defense to pick the obvious best possible answer?
Saying that only makes sense if you then draft Eddie Mathews or Chipper Jones to fill third base if you feel it's more difficult. Doing this then prevents the other two from taking Aaron.
I know sometime you guys want to show off a bit or taking your team favourite first, but no reason not to grab Hank Aaron, Babe, Mays first round. Grabbing Bonds over Mays could be an honest mistake because people often remember him as most HR career but not most as a Giants, but Hank is just a no brainer
Do you take Hank Aaron at 733 and block out Eddie Mathews, or do you take Willie Mays at 646 and block out Mel Ott, Barry Bonds, Willie McCovey, and Jeff Kent?
Banks was probably a better 1st rounder than Bench since you'd lose like ~150 by getting someone like Pudge or Gary Carter or Campanella compared to the ~250-300 you'd lose stepping down from Banks to Yount or Tulo
Jolly mentioning Henry Aaron, saying “no” out loud, and then picking Sammy Sosa is legitimately insane.
Love Jolly, but that was such a dumb moment. No way he’s trying to win by doing that😂
How in the world is Hank Aaron not a top 2 pick in this draft
only thing I can think is that he considered the milwaukee braves and atlanta braves different teams
@@crochetODif he did, then he doesn’t know ball. Same franchise. Boston -> Milwaukee -> Atlanta
Ya this is ludicrous
I'm ready for this series to continue with every single stat imaginable
This. Baseball tracks EVERYTHING.
i'd be super interested in one for a general hitting stat like wOBA, though OPS is probably easier for a video
Let's get really nasty and do a holds draft next
I really want Stolen Bases personally 😁
All time stolen bases after the 7th inning stretch in a close game team.
Jolly doesn’t realize baseball existed before 1990
He does it on purpose
Most of them don't know baseball existed before 2012, to be fair lol
Well. Sorry. Thats way before my time 😂
I know. I was shouting at him to take Johnny Bench after the Piazza pick.
@@bigfloridapimpthey’ve been watching since like 2000 what u on
I love that the Hank Aaron gaff mostly didn't matter considering even without him, Jake still won. Just an absolute slaughter by the co-founder of JM
I mean it does because while he won without him it definitely would have changed the dynamics and possible made Jake select a worse answer. How aaron fell to 5 is the craziest thing
@@Whocares66672 It doesn't matter if he has to pick a worse answer if he is still winning even if he takes a 0 there. Now you could argue that someone else could have taken him but IMO in the hypothetical, you just assume nobody took him because nobody else did
@cinco_de_la_tarde someone else definitely does since he was clearly mentioned. And it does matter because he may pick a outfielder for example from a team he got a strong position elsewhere if he doesn't already have aaron. The entire draft changes so it 100% does matter. I don't get how so many people don't understand simple logic
@fuckgoogle9061 dawg, he was the 5th pick and both other players didn't take him after he was mentioned. Imo if it got passed Jake, there would be a gentleman's agreement not to take him. They've done that for big totals in the past
@@cinco_de_la_tarde6th pick lol
Was screaming Johnny Bench internally lol
Same. lol
hah loved Johnny Bench as a kid. I met him once at his book signing, asked him if he was wearing his world series ring, he says "this is a hall of fame ring young fella"
How in the hell did Hank Aaron not go 1.01
I was SCREAMING at them my god
We were all Lucas in this video lol. Jolly even said his name…..
He was definitely my knee jerk 1.01 but I did consider whether it might be better to go Eddie Mathews. Big 3B number and no one gets Aaron anyway. IDK what I'd have chosen between them on the spot
And Willie Mays
@@mse326 I could have sworn Jolly mentioned blocking someone else in conjunction with mentioning Aaron's name and immediately assumed it was to take Matthews at 3B to block someone from picking Aaron.
Carlos Delgado is an insane pull for this game. Like absolutely wild.
the kind of guy that people should remember
Yeah but the guy who pulled him passed on Hank Aaron twice.
And apparently forgot that Willie Mays played like 23 years with the Giants, just one season with another team and opted for Bonds, who played like a third of his games for the Pirates.
@@harrisonbaylor1432 and none of them picked teddy ballgame or willy mays
@@MonsieurBooyah I started the video understood the rules and thought “oh okay so Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and then Willie Mays” watching this kinda hurt my brain. Some teams were obvious who was the best and they just skip over them claiming they are “trying to pick interesting guys” when they mess up.
Jolly: Craig Biggio had more homeruns than Altuve?
Well no freaking duh one guy played 20 years the other has played 13 years.
The Aaron fumble was straight up criminal. This is a good format tho, it gets really tough to get good picks late.
This is a great way to do it. The team elimination is awesome
Jolly screwed himself out of a win after his first two picks.
I was in the middle of watching Jake throw ass on instagram when I got this notification.
I like this Jake Sorielli guy. seems like he knows ball
I cannot explain how much I was screaming at my TV that no one was picking Hank Aaron.
You should do an all time draft at the end of this series and put your teams into OOTP
jolly never fails to disappoint me by choosing the "fun" player instead of the obvious choice
Because the Schwab died, I would love if you guys could ask questions from that show in honor of him. The dates are old but I would to see the questions asked none the less, and to see who could get what
Great idea!
3:46 Jolly loves defense so much he even plays it against himself 😬
Jolly is so hilariously bad at these when he doesnt look up all the answers beforehand
Shelfy and Jolly both whiffed on Duke Snider for outfield or DH. He hit 389 homers as a Dodger and has the most in franchise history.
Thank you for spending a little time on the final wrap up and ultimate teams!
Teams not picked:
- Dodgers, as mentioned (Duke Snider, 389)
- Rays (Evan Longoria, 261)
- Padres (Nate Colbert, 163)
How is that Padres number real...
Pads have never had any legitimate power guys for enough years. Winfield didn't play long enough. Gwynn wasn't a homer guy.
It doesn't help them that when they had Phil Nevin and Ryan Kkesko putting up decent power numbers, they reconfigured their ballpark to move the fences back.
Maybe Tatis sticks around long enough to surpass Colbert.
Screaming johnny bench the whole time. Whose record did salvy break?
Javy Lopez
@@dkroll92nope, lopez had 43 but bench had 45 in 1970
I lived with forgetting Aaron but not taking Bench immediately after Piazza was a crime
C- bench 389
1b- pujols 469
2b- Sandberg 282
3b- Cabrera 373
Ss- Ripken 431
Lf-Aaron 733
Cf- Griffey 417
Rf- ott 511
Dh- thome 337
Total-3942
easy when you don't have anyone drafting against you
@@voncornhole I was playing along drafting in the 2 slot and obviously I had to overlap some teams 9x3 is already all but 3 teams couldn’t go against them all unfortunately and I picked some players before they said them it’s not a perfect list just what I came up with I always try to challenge myself by playing along normally drafting 2nd and pausing the video before the person in my position is making selection
Jake knows ball
Was hoping for lou whitaker as one of those second basemen. 244 at second base as a tiger. He must've been a hall of famer, right?? RIGHT???
He should be.
Whiffing on Mays is insane
Alright, I want to see Lucas on one of these. I know he would (or could) hit 4K+.
Shelfy - "He (Griffey) left at 29."
Yes, but he started at 19.
Masterclass from Jake
I had to double check Baseball ref to make sure I wasn't going crazy thinking Hank Aaron should be 1.01.
Then I had to check again a couple rounds later for Johnny Bench.
Still a darn good team by Jake, though
Jake wins every trivia event. He's in another league from the other two.
Can’t believe he chose Barry over Willie Mays lol. The disrespect
Luis Gonzalez didn’t even play half his career in Arizona lol
I originally thought all 30 teams would have to be used, but no one said a Dodger or Padre, then I realized that only 27 teams were used, the Rays being the other odd man out
Jolly saying Aaron and not taking him is an all time bad move. Shocked Jim Thome didn’t get taken
2B - Lou Whitaker hit 244 HRs
That Dan Uggla pull by Jolly. I’m proud of you! Being a Marlins fan that was my pick for a 2nd baseman everytime. 154 homeruns in 5 years is insane. Pure hitter man
LOL "pure hitter" dude hit .240 for career, 2x Ks to BB
@@hustlecrowe9440pure, distilled hitting essence.
Jolly should've learned by now that, whatever he thinks is a good draft strategy in these games, is definitely the worst possible draft strategy.
Ernie Banks snubbed big time
You should do a most hits or RBIs draft all the same rules just different stat. And maybe lowest era draft for pitchers. Love the videos on these drafts
Suggestion: draft for hits (position players) and innings pitched (pitchers)
Imagine not picking Hank Aaron first in this draft. Insanity defined.
No Pujols is insane.
Pujols is a throw when he and Musial played the same position and Musial hit more HRs as a Cardinal
I know WHY they didn’t do it because it’s a research nightmare, but it would have been fun if they only counted years when a player’s primary position was that position - Cal Ripken was the obvious candidate to me, but they named a lot of guys who lose a lot of home run in that format. I think Frank Thomas only gets 200 at 1B in that format.
Praying for a Batter Strikeout Draft next
Jake is sitting there like Bobby fischer, just bored with his competition
I was thinking Johnny Bench since the Piazza pick. I was going insane.
My list before the video started, of course I'm cheating since I got no one to compete with 😅
C: Johnny Bench - Reds = 389
1B: Mark McGuire - Cardinals = 220
2B: Robinson Cano - Yankees = 204
3B: Mike Schmidt - Phillies = 548
SS: Carl Ripken Jr. - Orioles = 431
OF: Hank Aaron - Atlanta = 733
OF: Sammy Sosa - Cubs = 545
OF: Barry Bonds - Giants = 586
DH: David Ortiz - Red Sox = 483
TOTAL = 4,139
Shoutout to MLB 9 innings!!! Only problem with the game is that Ernie Banks isn’t a legend card.
(Respectfully) wtf was Jolly talking about with playing defense in regards to picking Hank Aaron? Is it defense to pick the obvious best possible answer?
Saying that only makes sense if you then draft Eddie Mathews or Chipper Jones to fill third base if you feel it's more difficult. Doing this then prevents the other two from taking Aaron.
Jake just absolutely SMACKED everyone
Why aren't picking Aaron in the first round???? And again.... Bonds over Mays??? that's insane
Jake had a great draft but honestly what were Jolly and Shelfy doing for a lot of those picks...
These are so fun!
great video! ending made me laugh hard enough i had tears in my eyes
Man I consistently underrate Ken Griffey. Goddamn beast.
Keep not picking Braves, keep losing 😂
Congrats Jake :)
I know sometime you guys want to show off a bit or taking your team favourite first, but no reason not to grab Hank Aaron, Babe, Mays first round. Grabbing Bonds over Mays could be an honest mistake because people often remember him as most HR career but not most as a Giants, but Hank is just a no brainer
I don’t pay enough attention to these videos and usually just listen but is oracle park always the background?
Jake killed the draft, but more impressively he's the first American I've heard use the phrase "couldn't care less" properly..
This was a great episode love the drafts
And no Joez
Jolly fumbled the bag big time.
I was screaming names the whole time.
Do you take Hank Aaron at 733 and block out Eddie Mathews, or do you take Willie Mays at 646 and block out Mel Ott, Barry Bonds, Willie McCovey, and Jeff Kent?
I love Jake's disappointment at the end...
Joll goes Deep cut too much.
LET LUCAS PLAY
Could you do playoff all time HR draft for both leagues?
Babe Ruth played for 3 teams: Red Sox, Yanks, & Braves
Johnny Bench should’ve been said very early
As a fellow Mets fan this hurts to watch more than replays of the 2015 WS
Sneaky pick: Jimmie Foxx, Philadelphia A’s, C - 302
Only 108 games as catcher out of 2317 total? Not sure it would've counted.
@@GaryDodgerfan Fair. I saw “C” on Baseball Reference and got excited. 😂
Team Jolly, Im afraid to say we may never experience happiness
Give me walks!! From both pitchers and hitters haha
Dan Uggla Marlins is my favorite pick of the draft, hell yea
How yall gonna forget Mays😮
“He got Hank Aaron on the swing around!
Most golden glove lineup
Why did I know Jolly was gonna say Dan Uggla 😂
Should do this again but with single season instead of career
Do hits by players on teams
Jolly with Mets defense. Dropping the ball like Luis Castillo.
jake master class
That Hank Aarons fumble by Jolly was absolutely horrendous 😂
Not taking Hank Aaron first is wild
I was screaming at the screen about bench
I physically cannot bring myself to self to watch this video after seeing Hank Aaron fall so far
How long does Griffey stay on the board? Jesus
I would have had Hank Aaron and Johnny Bench in the first wrap-around for sure. And Ted Williams well before Papi was taken.
Banks was probably a better 1st rounder than Bench since you'd lose like ~150 by getting someone like Pudge or Gary Carter or Campanella compared to the ~250-300 you'd lose stepping down from Banks to Yount or Tulo
You should do this but with RBI’S
Career WAR draft on a team??
That's insane what Jake pulled off. Take away Hammerin hank and still win
Shelfy going fan boy and taking Schmidt instead of Aaron is baffling
Ted Williams hit 521 home runs. Not 512.
war eagle 8:20
idk i was screaming jimmie foxx
Foxx hit over 200 for other teams, McGwire hit more as an A
@@voncornhole super fair. idk why but i thought jimmie foxx would lead them
"I would never draft a Brave" 😂
Can next draft be starting 9 with lowest HR with team