Did Anne Boleyn have much of a relationship with Elizabeth I?
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- In this instalment of her series "Questions about Anne Boleyn", Claire Ridgway, author of "The Fall of Anne Boleyn: A Countdown" and founder of The Anne Boleyn Files website, answers the question "Did Anne Boleyn have much of a relationship with Elizabeth?"
Claire considers whether Anne Boleyn was disappointed with her daughter's birth, whether there is evidence that she didn't bond with Elizabeth, and how she was involved with the princess's early life and upbringing. Claire also looks at the prevailing myth that Elizabeth I distanced herself from her mother's memory - just how true is that?
Book recommendation: "The Life and Death of Anne Boleyn" by Eric Ives.
In my mind Anne was disappointed that she didn't give Henry a son but quickly fell in love with Elizabeth. It was clear that she wanted Elizabeth to know how much she loved her little girl.
Absolutely agree with you.
Cheers.
Any historical evidence for that idea - apart from wishful thinking based on 21st century's values?
@@homhable All of the stuff Claire said in her video, maybe? Did you bother to watch it?
she needed to get pregnant again quick...can't do that if you are breast feeding.
Aika Papa In this video, she explains that they had wet nurses to breastfeed because it was believed in that time that babies could absorb personality traits from breast milk so they were fed by women with the most desirable traits.
It wasn’t because of her child’s gender and it doesn’t seem much like she had much choice based on the customs at court.
Also what the above comment said about her wanting to get pregnant again as quickly as possible.
Things were very different back then and there were different beliefs.
Nothing was said to imply that Anne refused to breastfeed because she was displeased that the baby was a girl.
It sounds like you misheard what was said
I am sure she was heartbroken leaving her little Elizabeth alone.
I often forget that Elizabeth was Anne's daughter. And my heart goes out to Elizabeth and Anne, as I am so close to my 92 year old Mom, and take care of her now...I can't imagine never having known her.
Elizabeth never knew anne
Anne was far from sweet and innocent, play them games in that world and you will get burnt.
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It sounds like Elizabeth held Anne in very high esteem and seemed to love her mother and what she idolized her to be even though she was unable to spend time with her. I believe she loved her more than her father, the king and one of the reasons she never married. She knew if she did she would give up her power of the monarchy and her power as a woman. Smart lady!
When your dad has your mom beheaded for something she didn't even do, it kinda sours you on the whole concept of marriage. That and she'd fought too long and too hard to gain her throne just to give up power to some man, no matter how much she might love him.
Too bad Anne wasn’t better to Mary
Everyone always talks about how Elizabeth publicly lauded her father, and bragged about her resemblance to him, and that she never said anything much about her mother. But they also forget that Elizabeth survived against all odds and learned how to play the game. She's a real life Game of Thrones esque chessmaster. Of course she'd publicly identify with her father--her legitimacy had been questioned, she's always securing her position. But the fact that she somehow managed to secure mementos of her mother and kept them close showed she did hold her mother dear, despite not spending much time with her.
My favorite Claire quote 'That has absolutely no basis in fact.' Thank you for the video. So much propaganda. Rubbish and poppycock!
Dana Davison Yes. So delightfully British! Or should I say English?
What great revenge (in a way) for Anne Boleyn! Her daughter was one of the most remarkable women in history. Henry the VIII was an a-hole.
Whatever we feel about Henry VIII, we can never fully understand the context in which he lived and the pressures that were on him. The idea of a Queen successfully reigning a country alone was unimaginable in his lifetime, so of course he was praying and fighting for a male child. An asshole just does what he wants, lacking any sense of responsibility. My impression of Henry is however (despite all the stereotyping from novels and films) that all his life he was desperately trying to do the right thing.
RoLorenz Yeah murdering people is trying to do the right thing now, eh?
Letha Satterfield Thankyou!
@@canadaohcanada7792 Henry's later penchant for beheading everyone who inconvenienced him is appalling and tragic. They're just saying there is nuance to how he got to be that way. After marrying Katherine in 1509 he lived 28 years without a male heir. As only the 2nd monarch of a still precarious dynasty the pressure on him was immense. He himself was even a "spare heir" as his elder brother had died. In the eyes of many England was, for 3 decades, one flu or pox away from civil war over a female succession. It could be argued that his by-any-means pursuit of a legitimate male child was in the national interest.
@@RobertoLorenzPianist PS -- There was indeed a bit of chaos and violence around the succession of Queen Mary in 1553. If her cousin and rival claimant Lady Jane Grey had been a male "Lord John Grey" the outcome may have been outright war. Henry was right to be ill at ease with Mary as his only heir. (See Also: Empress Matilda)
Well now, the joke is on Henry. Elizabeth was the greatest Tudor Prince regardless of gender.🙋
To be fair, Henry couldn't predict that this was even possible. In his time the idea of a queen reigning her country alone was unimaginable.
@Jimmy Johnston 🤥
@Jimmy Johnston Jimmy, the birth was witnessed. You are suggesting she was a hermaphrodite at the very least. Which is very rare. Such a conspiracy theorist. Thanks but no thanks. You have absolutely no proof except fiction.
@Jimmy Johnston You are either very young or extremely misinformed. Her excessive use of sugar rotted her teeth and no one in the 16th century was on hormone therapy. It hadn't been invented yet. Much to the chagrin of males that ate animal testicles in the vane attempt to increase male virility. Meaning... It didn't work. Good day to you sir, I said good day !
Jimmy Johnston I hope you’re joking 😂 if she was a man they would have been ecstatic and Anne probably never would have been killed. Also hormones? I guess you are kidding 🙈
“I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a King and a King of England too!”
The astrologers were not wrong. She became more of a successful king than any other king before her. Them seeing her as a prince before birth probably meant they saw her being powerful
She was the prince who was promised ;) *sorry i've been watching too much GOT x
I was thinking much the same! I once had an astrologer tell me that my ex-husband had really been a ladies' man, had cheated on me often. I laughed because my husband had cheated on me a lot - with men! The astrologer laughed with me and showed me that what my chart had showed was that he had been unfaithful; the gender of his partners had been her assumption. ;)
Ebyangel Predicting a girl could have been treasonous, but according to what the astrologers said, yes, they were wrong.
There actually was one astrologer who said it would be a girl and that she would be a great king of England and didn’t want to hear about it
Ebyangel cognitive dissonance!
Elizabeth was my personal sorrow for Anne. Having promises made for her care nd not really knowing what would become of her was dreadful.
Excellent answers to questions not often posed. While Anne was not able to directly affect Elizabeth's character (either during her lifetime or due to her early death) I think the people Anne placed around her daughter did help mold that character - certainly Kat Ashley did - so Anne had great indirect influence on who her daughter became. I knew people like Lady Bryan, John Shelton, and Kat Ashley were all related to the Boleyns but did not know about Thomas Parry; that explains a lot about why Elizabeth was so determined to keep him near her as well as her beloved Kat. There is always something new to learn.
I am so glad you pointed out how often Elizabeth honored her mother through things such as the use of her falcon badge. Most of us know how to honored many of her Boleyn relatives by keeping them near her. I have wondered how often in quiet moments or during meetings with her Council Elizabeth quietly gazed at her mother's portrait in that ring. Who else could it have been but Anne? I envy your time in front of that incredible piece of history!
I have often thought that the things Elizabeth did not do, like move her mother to another resting place or reinstate the validity of her parents' marriage, were very careful calculations. As you point out, Elizabeth DID often honor Anne throughout her reign and in very open ways. But in the ways that would most offend those on the fence about her or would give her enemies well-honed weapons to use against her, Elizabeth kept her peace and let the past be the past. This was not a slight against her mother so much as careful consideration of her position and, in a way, her mother's legacy. Without a brother, Elizabeth was England's heir and Anne's. Maintaining her position on the throne was the greatest honor she could have done to her mother's memory - so that Anne's blood was indeed well spent.
Cheers.
It could be Robert Dudley in the ring that is more likely.
@@ingriddubbel8468 Robert Dudley wearing a French hood? Get real.
I have always been fascinated by Anne and Elizabeth. ..both very strong women. ..good to have more information ☺
Elizabeth got her strength AND her intelligence from Anne, not Henry.
This is such a moving video, Claire, not least for your love of Queen Anne. It's wonderful that Anne's legacy was this great monarch even though it's a tragedy that Anne never saw her daughter's success. Heart-breaking that the two of them had so little time together but there must have a been a great love between them. I've always felt that Elizabeth's tiny locket ring spoke volumes in its intimacy. How amazing for you to have seen this ring, deservedly so, I might add, for your dedication. Thank you again for all that you do.
Elizabeth avoided any association with her mother. She only refered to herself as Henry XVIII's daughter. You I can live in your little illusion but I think Elizabeth was happy to avoid anything about her mother. Her behavior certainly reflects this. Elizabeth loved and honored Katherine Parr.
@@ingriddubbel8468 As Dana Davison has pointed out evidence shows that Queen Elizabeth I always wore the ring so how can you say she avoided any association with her mother? Also, how can you use her affection for Katherine Parr as an example on which to base her disassociation with her mother? Do you not love and honour more than one person? You're opinion is yours and you have a right to it but the same goes for all of us who are of the opinion that Queen Elizabeth did indeed have some affection for her mother. Please don't talk down to us in such a patronising manner.
@Dana Davison Well said xx
@Dana Davison exactly! To be fair, none of know for sure about many things in history but at least most of us base our opinions on the evidence that IS available.
@@ingriddubbel8468 this just isn't true. She had both her parent's coat of arms when she was coronated and wore pieces of jewellery of her mother's throughout her life. She may have loved katherine Parr, an honor that was deserved. But she did not avoid association of her mother.
Shakespeare’s play “Henry VIII” presents Anne Boleyn in a very favourable light, referring to her as a “goodly lady”, which would have reinforced a positive image of Anne in the minds of the public. Also if you read Shakespeare’s play “Othello” between the lines, Desdemona could be seen as an oblique reference to Anne Boleyn, I.e. falsely accused of adultery and brutally made away with.
Of course. Anything else suggested would have been treason.
@@catzmeow5294 exactly since QEI was Queen at the time.
@@l.plantagenet She wasn’t. The play was written during the time of King James, Mary Queen of Scots’ son.
I didn't know he'd written a Henry III, and that's fascinating about Othello.
Mary Tudor, believe it or not, had sympathy for Anne. I believe she loved Elizabeth. Mary was committed to the catholic faith, but not nearly the monster we were led to believe.
I like how this clears up a few myths, like the idea that Henry was so disappointed in Elizabeth being a girl that his love for Anne Boleyn started to fade. Yes, Henry was disappointed, and so was Anne, since they did want a boy and virtually everyone had predicted that the baby would be a boy, but he wasn't wild with fury, nor did he shun the child and her mother as many a big and small screen depiction has claimed. Elizabeth was a girl, but she was happy and healthy and pretty, and looked like her father. Henry was fond of baby Elizabeth, actually, as he was, generally, of babies and small children -- he could sometimes be seen carrying Elizabeth around and playing with her. And he was still confident that Anne would produce sons. It took two years and at least two miscarriages for him to change his mind.
Sounds like Ann dressed Elizabeth like a little dolly. That's what mama's do with their beloved little girls; there isn't anything that is too good for their child. She must've been over the moon about the baby. After all, she was still and infant/toddler when Ann was executed. Henry was definitely a hard hearted man. Thank you for the insightful lesson about Anne and her baby.
I know. My mum used to do the same with me - she bought so many cute little outfits for me that my younger cousins' mothers hardly needed to buy any because she just handed down when I didn't fit into them, and they to their friends and so on.
smartoldlady--Oh, so true! It's a phenomenon that appears to be multi-generational. Mamas of sons need have no fear. In the USA's southern states, there are ladies who still support and teach the English smocking and French Hand Sewing techniques and who have created adorable patterns for our sons, as well.
Anne dressed Elizabeth like a mini QUEEN not a 'dolly' & I can assure you not all mums dress their kids like dolly objects just 'cos they're girls! Thank goodness..
Breaks my heart that her mother was treacherously killed, but she would have made her mother so proud.
Not me. That was her karma for the shit she did for a crown and a shitty adulterous heretical king.
@@bibiribbons to be fair the only victim oh all of this was Mary, all of the other people she harmed deserved it honestly
I wonder at what age and how Elizabeth became aware of the circumstances of her mother’s death. I would think the information would have shielded from her for some time.
@@ritmcerlean5076 I don't think Katherine of Aragon deserved it or the people that were burned to death because of her and Henry's new faith which tore the country apart and I also don't think the monasteries deserved it either. There were many victims because of Anne Boleyn's drive to be Queen.
@@l.plantagenet In all fairness Anne cannot be blamed for the actions Henry took in regard to his new beliefs so she is not responsible for any of the horrors committed by Henry, also Katherine of Aragon herself was quite a horrid woman who cared more for status than her own family
She was able to bring a healthy baby into the world which was a blessing in those times due to the death rate. So it was a good sign. But our dear liz is the prince who was promised!
Elizabeth started life with so many negatives, yet became one of the most powerful of all English monarchs. She deserved that. Thanks for this wonderfully informative video.
Elizabeth's struggles growing up made her the woman and queen she became. It was a high price to pay, both by her mother and herself, but it didn't break Elizabeth, it made her.
Hello, you look & sound much better today.
I believe that Elizabeth had some memories of her mother and may have been told favorable stories of her by her caretakers.
I love the fact that Elizabeth is considered to be Anne’s greatest legacy. I agree and Anne would have been so proud!
lhzook I doubt very much that she had any conscious memories of her mother. her mother died when she was two. That does not mean she did not have experiences of her mother that are, shall we say, “unconscious“ for a pre-verbal child, that certainly affected her development and psyche but not ones that are accessible to consciousness. Thus, I think she did very much rely on her Boleyn family to tell her about her mother. The younger a child is when she loses her mother, the more profound the loss it is.You need a mother at least for 7-10 years for a solid development. The older the child is who loses a parent, the more they can verbally and emotionally process it, the more time they’ve had with that parent, the more time the parent has had to do their job. but she lost her mother at a very vulnerable age.
as a baby and toddler, she knew who her mother was, In her toddler mind it must’ve been something like “beautiful angel lady soft always smells good soft clothes warm sing” and then, “beautiful angel lady again feel so close and good so gentle kiss laugh giggle.“ And on with each episode bonding more deeply with this fantastic, bejeweled figure who arrives and envelops her in love.Perhaps eventually identifying her and announcing “mama!” at her last appearances, and then, no more. The bond violently broken in a way that no toddler could comprehend. that is the profound unconscious loss that unfortunately E.R. did not have Dr. Freud to go to. And then to be raised only to hear the worst horrible things about her mother coming from even her father himself.
So she did have an experience of her mother. Probably most of those experiences were very nice for her. The trauma was in the sudden loss and the inability really to process it. And nobody to really replace her either. She had nannies and mothers surrogates, but not that “special angel lady mother” not “mama!” who went away suddenly and never came back. And I think that is why she wore that ring, because she longed to connect with the memory, any memory, of her mother. She knew at some level she was connected to her deeply, that those critical interactions her first two years she sensed and felt at some level her mothers love. Perhaps she needed that portrait to sense a little of that love she received. Because it was in short supply after she went away.
I’m quite certain that her mother figured deeply in her life and in her reign. not just for the genetics; but much more than that.
I was always a little comforted that Diana Mothered her children through the most important years of their development before she died unexpectedly. Certainly it would’ve been a lot better had she not died and was able to be present at her sons’ marriages. But at least for William, less so for Harry, she was there for the foundation. Elizabeth had no such fortune. Much more wounding.
Dana Davison I’m so sorry for your loss.
Dana Davison I’m so sorry to learn of your poignant and heart breaking memory; how fragile the family was in the wake of your Father’s tragic death. Peace to you.
Glad you made this video to again dispel fiction and I absolutely LOVE that pillow with Anne behind you.
It's interesting to hear how Elizabeth honored her mother in ways large and small.
i’m not even british and this is so interesting and amazing to listen to GREAT JOB truly quality content
👸🤴She wears the jeweled necklace with the letter B, loves her mom.
Thank you Claire, I enjoyed this very much.💎💍
She never wore that necklace its a doctored image and that painting of A new Boylen was made many years after her death. The necklace probably didn't exist.
@@ingriddubbel8468 👋Hi Ingrid, I still like my comment. Lol...alrighty! I Know what you said is Correct... Sometimes, we forget history is written by the Winners. But that necklace is worned by her in every film, documentary, even the paintings they use in the films ... it's there. Just like you said: put on her afterwards.
🙋♀️Hope you have a great weekend Ingrid, and cheers from NYC🍎
In the early "Family of Henry VIII" portrait, made when Elizabeth was around ten years old, she is wearing a pendant in the shape of the letter A. It must have belonged to her mother.
Anne's biggest devastating moment ever was knowing she can't be there when her baby girl would need her I'm sure..
It's sad for Elizabeth and Anne! Thanks, Claire. :-)
I love that movie Anne of a thousand Days.
Sally Leger it was the first Tudor movie i watched and it was amazing, im so glad I found it
Sally Leger,Some random user...I love Anne of a Thousand Days;a Very well made film with a strong cast.Anne,s accent was beautiful and I must admit to getting a
bit wet around my eyes as she was enclosed in the Tower of London before her
execution,counting those 1000 days.Resigned to her fate she held her head up high
and behaved nobly and humbly...said my piece.🗑👩🔪
It’s my probably my 2nd favourite movie next to Titanic I love historical films my favourite bit is the ending when Henry offers Anne to go and live abroad with France but Anne knows that would tarnish Elizabeth’s name so she so proudly tells him that she did do all of the things he accused her of
I think she would have been so proud!
I'd love to know more about her maids, her servants, her day to day life as queen. What did she wear on a "normal" day...did she pick out her own clothes, or were they chosen for her? Did she have any hobbies? Where did she go to get away from it all if she ever had the chance? What was a regular day's schedule? I've only ever seen TV's versions of what was happening, but I'd love to know a researcher's take....
Lisa Farmer I have always been so interested in her daily life as Queen as well. Maybe one day she’ll make a video about it. I do know a lot of their lives were centered around religion such as attending mass, court ceremonies and the general hobbies the court participated in but I would love a more in depth look!
Her one hobby was to do double translations of various texts. She was an excellent player of the virginal. She was well read.
She was a good dancer.
I can't imagine her not choosing her own gown, she was all about theatrics and presentation.
Anne sewed, made music, danced, wrote poetry, and was active in charitable work and education.
@Dana Davison There was a huge complex of buildings near the Tower of London called the Royal Wardrobe. This stored the monarch's clothes, spare furniture etc.
@@laurenbee6340 Anne was a reformist so she didn't ever go to Mass.
Thanks Claire for this. I as many others have always wondered about this question as well. It actually made me a bit emotional to hear how much Anne tried to do for her daughter. It may be because I have just lost my mother a month ago and she was the one that raised me. So hearing you say about how you cannot imagine what it would be like to not be able to be there and raise her daughter but yet she was trying to make sure Elizabeth was well taken cared of, stuck a chord with me. I love all the insights you bring and well as the facts and debunking to go along with it. Please keep up the excellent work!
Just imagine if Elizabeth managed to become Queen and Anne had still been alive.
Surely tears of pride would have been shed.
Love how you told this story. Anne would have been so proud of Elizabeth.
What a great channel! Like all Brits I've always been obsessed with the Tudors and particularly with the clever and remarkable Elizabeth 1st. The story of Anne Boleyn's fall from grace is a tragedy and the fortitude she showed in meeting her death on the scaffold is just incredible. Elizabeth 1st was the first true feminist and she was shaped directly by how her mother was betrayed by power hungry men.
I'm positive Anne's speech at her death was a mother's vow to protect her daughter. Elizabeth, I'm sure, knew her mother loved her, and she must have spent many hours mourning the loss! Do you know if there are any accounts of her having a mother figure the rest of her life?
She got along okay with Anne of Cleves, who had apparently helped her learn to dance. Katherine Howard was supposed to be rather taken with Elizabeth (probably because they were cousins, even though she spent more time with Edward.) Catherine Parr, for a short time, would have been Elizabeth's most 'motherly' figure, as she had stayed with her after Henry died- up until Catherine kicked her out at 15 because her new husband had tried to molest the young Elizabeth. Elizabeth had gone to visit her brother at court for a few days, and informed him of what had happened. Edward took action by sentencing Thomas Seymour to death under a cover-up crime, and Catherine had already died at that point after childbirth.
I think Kay Astley was probably the most prominent female figure in her life, however.
Katherine Parr was her mother while Henry was alive, and after. She even continued living with her after Henry’s death, until Seymour got all handsy with her. She did get on smashingly with Ann of Cleves, but I think it was not a mother/daughter relationship. Katherine was even the most instrumental person to restore Mary and Elizabeth to the line of succession.
@@kiera6326 kat ashley. also, anne boleyn was also the 2nd cousin of jane seymour. anne and catherine were first cousins once removed (her father was the younger brother of elizabeth howard, anne's mother). catherine might've been edward's cousin as well.
@Aika Papa reportedly Jane Seymour brought Mary and Elizabeth to Christmas one year and helped reconcile their relationship with their father. I think it helped a lot. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My goodness Claire. That was wonderful. Your love for Queen Ann shines through with every word.
Queen Ann never had the opportunity to be with her daughter for very long. However Elizabeth was born with wings and it was the Boleyn family who taught her how to fly. Seeing that that tiny ring must have been so very special. 💕
I am captivated by Anne Boleyn, my interest in any other historical figures are primarily in how they relate to Anne Boleyn. Of anything else I have read, watched or listened to this is my absolute #1 favorite!
Thank you for sharing your description of the locket ring! 😊
Why do I find myself spending as much time trying to read the titles on her bookshelves as I do listening?
I find the shelves' contents equally interesting too!
Aw, you’ve got me doing it now.
Oh, how funny. I was just looking down back the comments after perusing the book shelves with my eye balls for the 30th time! I thought I was losing my mind!
My favorite video so far, Claire! Thank you!
I read that Lady Bryan was Anne's half aunt on her mother's side. She was the half-sister of Elizabeth's Howard and they shared a mother, Elizabeth Tilney. Margaret Bryan was the result of her mother's first marriage to Sir Humphrey Bourchier.
Thank you Claire for a fascinating and moving account, and for all your wonderful work. I have just discovered your channel and can't wait to spend the weekend watching more!
Facinating and you present the information so well. I must always go researching a person you mention to learn more because you bring them to life.
What a great video. It enriched my understanding of events.
Really looking forward to watching the rest of this series ❤️
I’ve always wondered about this! Thank you. 🌷
What a great channel. Thank you so much. I'm doing housework (like that ever happens!) and can't believe how quickly I'm ripping through it. Thanks again. I love your take on this period of history.
A lovely talk. Thank you. The description of Anne's purchases speak volumes.
I'm binge watching your videos right now. This channel is so awesome! Fascinating information. Personally, of all the fictional portrayals of Anne Boleyn that I've seen so far, I liked Natalie Dormer's performance on The Tudors the best. That show, while very historically inaccurate in general, portrays Anne not as a vindictive home wrecker, but as a sympathetic character who loved her daughter and would have done anything for her, her only crime being that she loved a monstrous king.
Another great posting! Thank you!
You're amazing story teller, I've never been more interested on Anne's life before, but know I feel like there is so much to learn about her, her daughter and the people that surrounded her.
I enjoy your videos so much. I also like how you go with what we know about Tudor history without over-speculation and theorizing, and making assumptions that “have no basis on fact”. It is just fine to say “we just don’t know”!
Thank you for making these videos! I just found them and they’re my new obsession
Your videos are so educational, and I really enjoy the history of this period. What a terrible thing to give up your child to a nurse and to have her raised outside of your household.
I just found you! Great videos, very informative and you cut through all of the myths.
Your voice sounds improved, Claire. Thanks again for another fascinating installment.
I love your videos!😍 Obssesed with Anne,and the whole Tudor dynasty.Thank you for your information and videos :) Greetings from Croatia.
Thank you again for such an informative video!
I just found you. This was absolutely wonderful. Words simply cannot explain my fasciation and love with history and especially the Tudors and Boleyns. I can't get enough. Thank you!!! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Thank you! I'm so glad you found me. I'm doing "on this day in Tudor history" videos on a daily basis at the moment too.
Ooooo! An especially juicy, thought provoking piece. Wonderful!
Thank you for adding a bit of history surrounding the wetnurses. We hear of them, but never really talk or know much of them. It actually sounds as if it possibly would have been a coveted position. I love your channel and all Tudor history. I especially love how we could be sitting right across from the table from you, such a personal touch. Thank you for all your work! ❤
PS Please always time your shows during the bells. Very charming, and it's like we're honoring those you are talking about! ❤
On The Tudors version, one of the things that Henry Vlll wants is to always be remembered throughout history. Immortal. I don't know if that is a fact or not, but I sure hope so! ❤
This was educational, well presented and impassioned.
Wow! This was so moving! So tragic for both of them!! Thankyou so much!
I love this video so much (and the merch and books in the background! I really want that cushion and the Anne figurine in the purple gown 💖)
I have wondered so much about this - Thank you.❤❤❤
So many historians seem to be disconnected from the human cost of the events they describe. And I guess in accumulating so much information, that pain can be overlooked or dulled over time. But you always seem to appreciate the human side of it. It’s really refreshing and easier to get into, for me. I’m maybe too empathetic for my own good, lol, so the dryness of most historians really bothers me. I saw a thing about the Titanic and they were just excited about new info and said something to the effect of “and down she goes, and BOOM! That’s what we want to hear!” It was appalling to me. Sure. They are experts. And I respect that. But... so many people died. The site is a mass grave for all intents and purposes. It bothers me for people to be so unfeeling. I really appreciate the way these things are approached by you. I’m glad I found your channel.
Thank you! Yes, I think it's very easy to forget that we're talking about real people with family that loved them. It's like when I receive comments about an execution being karma, I just can't stop myself replying and reminding the person that they are saying that about a real person rather than a character from something like Game of Thrones.
I think the myth about Elizabeth separating from her mother’s memory was probably more to protect her at the time maybe waiting till it was safer to be overt about it !!
Joanne Bohan Elizabeth wore a ring with her mother’s portrait inside and wore it always. I don’t think she ever got over her loss.
Joanne Bohan yeah I'm sure during Mary's reign it would have been dangerous for her to talk openly about Anne
Just Me For sure. Elizabeth learned to play it smart with Mary.
@@patriciabilinkas3911 I agree and that's why she never married..
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You have so much passion for your passion!
I love your just love your videos. I have a lot of questions too many to mention.keep up the good work.
Thank You. That is really interesting and informative.
I am absolutely fascinated with Anne Boleyn, and have been since I first viewed the film "Anne of the Thousand Days " (Starring Richard Burton and Genevieve Bujould) some 20 years ago. Thank you for such detailed information! I simply can't get enough. She is my guilty pleasure I suppose. I have subscribed and will continue to watch new videos, while enjoying scrolling thru all your previous ones!
So sad to see a bill after someone gone ; her mother, and lady Bryan seeking help , 😞
Really enjoyed this. Thank you.
Thank you for setting the story straight about the relationship between mother and daughter.
I always wondered how Anne was as a mother, so thank you for addressing this!
I am very happy to learn more about my favourite Queen, Elisabeth I, and Favourite Queen consort, Anne Boleyn. I was wondering what bonds they had and you answered marvelously. I love your videos and how well documented they are. Thank you so much.
I love that your back in front of your library shelves. Love the dolls, too. I've missed it.
Thank you thank you thank you for your dedication to the truth of Anne’s life and legacy. You can’t know what it means to me, but if you did, such poignant tears would be sweetly spent in satisfaction.
Suffice it to say: I know with every fiber of my being that mother and daughter shared as strong a bond as could be formed under those circumstances. Elizabeth carried the grief of having her mother torn from her not only throughout her lifetime, but throughout all subsequent lifetimes and into her present incarnation. Unfortunately, there is now a little girl who is terrified of her mother’s abandonment and petrified of her father’s temperament. I don’t expect anyone else to believe in reincarnation, but it is reality. Fortunately, these issues are also being worked through consciously and in a modern context, so healing is very possible.
Anne’s love for her daughter was and is fierce, protective and proud. She would do anything - sacrifice anything - for her princess. Love is the strongest force there is and it has brought these two souls together once more as mother and daughter. If asked how I know this, I wouldn’t be believed (well, maybe by some, but mostly ridiculed by others). That doesn’t matter because the truth is the truth regardless of what anyone thinks. I don’t want any attention for it and I don’t expect to be validated. I just want to express my sincere gratitude for the dedication towards the truth and hard work put into this channel. It touches me deeply.
I think , or I love to think that the other portrait is of her mother Anne. A way to keep her memory, just so sad that she lost her mother. I have only seen the locket ring on line. Just absolutely amazing! Love that you got to see it yourself Claire! Great daily Tudor history.
You’re the best!!
Love all your videos, cant wait to visit England someday and see all the places in my favorite stories
Love this video Claire...packed with info & very moving...thankyou...no matter how many times I hear or read about how little Elisabeth loses her mother so early & how she was neglected afterwards by her own father & family... I always find it so sad...you are showing me a different side to Anne that I hadn't realised before....thankyou....hope you feel better soon too 😊 xx
I love this question because it was often said that Elizabeth I never mentioned her mother though I also heard that she had a portrait in ring or something
Yes, that's the locket ring that I mention.
Google it, easy to find.
Thank you for this very interesting and informative account of Queen Anne and ER's relationship. Anne had no way of knowing whether Henry VIII would ever have any sons, and if he did not, who would reign after his death--she may have figured that Mary and Elizabeth at least had a shot at it. In any event, I'm glad to hear that she was concerned about Elizabeth's future. I am honored that Anne and ER had Falcon Badges :-)
Outstanding Discussion, Thank You!✨
Rubbish that Anne didn't care for Elizabeth!! Of course she loved her!
She loved Elizabeth very much. How could she not? The tradition of the time was to have nannies look after royal babies, a wet nurse, and the queen was to be distant. Of course Anne loves her daughter very much. The tradition of royalty was to be kept distant from offspring. That tradition ended with Diana, Queen of Hearts, who insisted on spending a lot of time with her boys instead of keeping them segregated from their mom.
@@janbadinski7126 I thought of Princess Diana as well, especially when she insisted her children accompany her and Prince Charles on a long tour of Australia.
@@6falconsue She was amazing. I like it that she broke the tradition and chose to be a hands on mom. I miss her every day.
@@janbadinski7126 Catherine continues to follow in her mother in laws footsteps. She seems like an incredibly devoted mother and very hands on. I recently watched a video that explained when Prince George was born Kate and Wills decided not to employ a nanny, wanting to do everything themselves. However after awhile they realized they needed some help. I think that they only have one nanny, which actually surprises me. I thought toyals with three young ones might employ a couple of nannies. I love the Cambridges!
It was so wild to hear you mention John Cheke! He's my 13th grandfather. I've done a lot of research about the period and have always been fascinated by the Tudors! Until I was 35 or 36 I finally found out my genealogy and was delighted. I am also a Parker on my mother's side. It was her maiden name. I have gotten bsck to the 1600's on her side,but always suspected she was a descendant of these Parkers! Anne's brother being married to a Parker girl and all before he was accused of incest and beheaded. I'm really enjoying this video and am learning some things I did not already know! Being that John Cheke doesn't even get mention by David Starkey,I was shocked when you mentioned him! How delightful! I'm going to continue watching now!
Lornicopia what did you use to discover your genealogy?
@@scottibrown3274 I have several cousins from various branches who have researched my family. One wrote The Cheek Chronicles. He is a Cheek descendant through a female lineage. Also Rebecca Moon also a Cheek descendant maintains a page The Cheeks of Alleghany County which traces Cheek ancestry in the United States. They both are great scources. I then traced backwards from my known ancestors in America to England via postmortems and rolls in Latin. I concluded a male to male lineage from myself to Sir John Cheke. Then from John Cheke to his father Peter. To Mottistone Isle of Wight. From Peter Cheke's father, I used the history of the Isle of Wight,postmortems and rolls to track him back to Hugh De Chekenhull the Sherrif of Whippingham on Isle of Wight. In his postmortem from his father, he inherited Chekenhull, present day Chyknell in Claverly Shropshire,Wolvestone,still a manor in South Hampton,and Osterbourne in Whippingham which is Queen Victoria's Osborne house. Hugh's father is listed in a roll in 1209 for embladement on Morph Forrest which was the King's land. He farmed on the Kings Land illegally. His mother was Cecilia and they are both found in the Document. Then from there I traced heraldry. Robert De Chekenhull was descended from William De Buville,a Norman and his brother and likely his father, all participated in the Norman invasion. William is listed as a cousin of King William the Conqueror. He had a brother Humphrey. Both landowners in the Domesday book. Saxwallo is listed as their father. Saxwallo is also called The Sire De Beville et Yveline . Then I used DNA testing. I am a Y to Y descendant at least to 1209. Saxwallow appears to be descended from Torquitil and Angquitil of Harcourt. Who are descended from Beranard The Dane. Bernard is the brother in law of Rollo. They married sisters. When I consult say the Beville lineage or the Sewwal lineage, varient spelling of Saxwallo descendants, I match with a Y marker . Noel, knollyes matches are autosomal but all 3 claim descent from Saxwallow or William his son or even Humphrey his other son, I match. So I can conclude with reasonable certainty that I am a direct male descendant at least to 1209 and possibly a male to male descendant of Bernard. But nevertheless certainly of familial descent from Bernard. DNA,Heraldry, post mortems and rolls as well as people being recorded in similar locations within a probable period of time seem to indicate it is true.
@@scottibrown3274 The other interesting thing is that Bernard and Rollo could be cousins or even brothers themselves. We don't know. We know more about their wives. We know Bernard was a Danish prince. We don't know who his father was exactly, but we do know who his mother was. She was a princess of Holstein Saxonny. Her father and his male ancestors can be traced back through Roman records to about 40 B.C. So heraldry says I am descended from Saxwallo Sire De Buville, Desendants of Tourquital and his father Anquital De Harcourt,descendants of Bernard the Dane,Descenadant of Holstein Saxon. But interestingly enough, Bernard and Rollo's descendants married cousins who were the descendants of both Rollo and Bernard and both their wives who were sisters. It gets convoluted. I'm my own grandpa!
@@Lornicopia I know this is 7 months late, but I just wanted to say: that's amazing! I love reading about genealogy. My aunt has traced our family line and found out some interesting things, and I'm so fascinated by it!
@@willowwind1985 Genealogy is amazing! It allows you to visit the past and have an actual connection to history! We are all descended from someone who survived the Black Plague! It's just fascinating!
Hello Claire! Nice to see you. I follow you on facebook however i havent seen recent posts from you for a while 😍
Your library is goals 😍😍
Hi Claire thank you for all your clips of Anne Boleyn I have always been fascinated with her since my grandmother took me to see Anne of a thousand days when I was seven years old at the cinema.
I was watching a guard at the Tower of London on UTube the other day and listened to his version of Anne and it made me quite upset to hear him talking about her lack of morals and how she slept with other men to fall pregnant so she deserved her death. I checked other clips with different guards and it must be a taught program as they tell exactly the same speech. How can they get away telling such lies. People who are not educated enough on the subject will go away thinking Anne was a whore and that upsets me greatly!! What can we do about this and how can the royals themselves let this misjudgment occur!!
Technically that is what she was convicted and executed for. Even if most historians dont believe it (and i don't either so please dont fight me) there are a few who believe she could have been guilty with a few or just not to the extent she was convicted of. They have every right to believe she was guilty and deserved to die and it doesnt affect anyone now if someone does believe that and talk about it
Hi Claire. Firstly, I would like to say thank you for your wonderful videos! Like you I love Tudor history and Anne is my favourite ever since I first learned about her at school (long time ago now!).
I would love to know if you have a favourite Tudor portrait? My favourite one of Anne is the Rose Portrait but of course this was painted after her death. My favourite Tudor Portrait of all is the one of young Princess Elizabeth where she is wearing the red dress and holding the book. I don't know why but it has always spoke to me....I love the details on the dress and the detail on her hands.
Would love to know if there is a Tudor Portrait or portraits that speak to you. Keep up the fantastic work.
Thank you Claire! I appreciate the details you've included in the video that are never mentioned in fiction, such as the pagaent that includes Anne Boleyn as well as Henry, and her use of the falcon badge.
Has anyone published the sympathetic biographies by Wyatt, Fox, etc?
Regarding the locket ring, I've seen photos online and my initial reaction was that the miniature was of Anne. I always feel touched when I see it. Has anyone identified or speculated on the artist?
Again, thank you. I'm glad to have found your channel.
Yes, George Wyatt's biography is in the appendix of George Cavendish's "Life of Wolsey" whcih can be found on Archive.org, and historian Maria Dowling edited Latymer's treatise and it was published by the Camden Society.
I love that you quoted Anne's speech to Henry at the end of Anne of the Thousand Days, that movie introduced me to Anne Boleyn! Actually, do you think you could please do a review of that movie, kinda like how you did with The Other Boleyn Girl? I'd love to see you dissect one of our favorite Tudor dramas. 🥰😉
A very interesting video- thank you
Thank you. I find this time in history so very interesting. I am involved in a separate career, but hope one day to be able to afford full time study to it. So fascinating.
You got great love for ANNE - that's why SHE is guiding you and your feelings about her are correct . I am connected to Anne too , I was present during her suffering as energy around her . Till today , I feel connected to her and send her healing . That how powerful love is , your love for Anne is authentic . Thank you for the great work . I saw you today and had to connect to Anne trough you . THANK YOU
Thank you for this! I hate how Alison Weir clings to the idea that Anne didn't care for Elizabeth and passes off all evidence to the contrary to her putting on a show.
Btw what do you think of AW as a historian?
R A I agree. I do love Alison weir as an author but I have learned to take her books with a grain of salt after seeing varying fact in other works.
I respect Alison Weir and I own quite a few of her books, but I disagree with her on quite a few things.
I think sometimes "researchers" put their own feelings into their research and they get a belief that just stays, even though fact shows their belief is not true. Sometimes I think it's because they have a romanticized view, and unfortunately they cannot change it somehow in their heart. To me, I believe that Ann would have loved her daughter especially having lost the other pregnancies.
Very interesting and informative, thank you
Your videos are excellent , thank you , from Canada
I hope you're feeling better with your cold maybe it's gone.
I wrote to you before because I was related to the boleyn's but I've been doing research lately and got very confused. My ancestry book was not very helpful my father wrote this huge volume so I know about my family tree on both sides. After much work I realize I'm descended from William boleyn's daughter Amata who of course was Aunt to Anna Boleyn Tudor.
Thank you for letting us t know these wonderful things it's nice to know that my family may have been involved caring for little princess Elizabeth
Thank you for a very interesting video.
Such a great video! Very educational and interesting. Elizabeth I feel had the very best qualities of her mother. 👑💜
If I could go back in time this would be one of my top 3 times to visit. It's so intriguing!