NEW Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition - TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2023
- Hamilton have released another Khaki Field watch!!!!! But this time it's got a compass vibe to it!:]
But the question is...... Is this new watch worth the big price increase?!
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Ok - honesty time. Your whole vibe kind of irritated me at first but now I'm addicted to your channel! Da-da-dah dum-da-dum. I hear your intro and sit back for some great info and entertainment. Thanks for all your do.
Yeah the characters are alot less irritating when you're expecting them
Yep, he bloody annoyed me the first time, but now I’m addicted. I do find myself saying “Soopa” like the comb over bloke.
Same lol. After getting used to it, I love these vids
Yeah, I used to hate it and find it irritating, but don't mind it anymore. Used to find it jarring all the cuts etc.
I was the same until I realized his actual taste in watches is very similar to mine, and it has now become a favorite channel.
Looks cool, I do prefer a dive style bezel for everyday use. I do feel the price is a getting a little bonkers though…
Citizen do a very similar watch in Titanium with metal or nato straps, extremely tough and much cheaper.
I like it. The case is superb and has a stubby shoulder resemblance to a Bremont. It's balanced well and is certainly something I would consider in a larger 40/41 case size. All over brushing is fab.
I bought the 37mm white dial on a leather strap. immediately. I love it. It has the wrist presence of a watch several times more expensive. It looks good on all sort of straps, and the screw-in crown gives me confidence in wet situation. And mine keeps time to within 1-2 seconds a day! My only quibble is that Hamilton only offer medium-length strap. I have an 8-1/4 inch wrist, and the stock strap is too short.
Swiss made + marketing =Whatever you can get people to pay... PS Tissot Heritage with Chronometer ETA movement under £700 from the same retailer. Bit shiny for the field unless you need to use as a mirror to attract a Rescue helicopter after trying to use it as a compass
And.. the dirty secret is that the ETA mechanical movements in this range aren't very accurate. They are actually hopelessly average in terms of mechanical movements, no better than typical consumer junk like from the 70s before the quartz revolution. 21K is a very low beat rate and is unacceptable in a watch over $200. This is Swatch at it again, with cheap movements and huge markups.
Thank you for addressing the bezel especially if I compare to (some) reviewers that got flowned to BC Canada for the reveal and none of them mentioned the bezel that some of them mentionned in the past like for the Seiko Turtoise with the same bezel “a useless complication that nobody will use”
Love this my friend. I'm getting my IWC Mark 16 back, but if I wasn't, I really would consider this beauty (37mm, probably black dial, but white is cool too)...
I love that the crystal is now coated, and there is no huge gap between the strap and case, like on the manual khaki
Also you can use the N,S,W,E markings as a timer, in the same way as 15,30,45
EDIT... ah damn.. the price, and display caseback...hmmm.. maybe I wouldn't get it after all
I’m glad you talked about the price hikes. It surprised me that so little was said when they did this. I believe it was a 20% increase on some models which I found hard to swallow.
Nice enough watch, thanks for putting the time into making the film. I really like the bezel and overall look, perfect for me! However, the price? Really? It is so close to the Sandhurst Series 2 from CW, but with the CW you get a better bracelet, adjustable clasp, better water resistance and a COSC certified movement, all for near enough the same monies. Sorry, Hamilton, it would be a CW for me any day of the week!
Keep up the good work though, Russ and keep well :-)
Thanks James!
Finally, it's not just Seiko that everyone can pile on for price increases. ;-)
Straight to the point and honest reviews
Glad you took a look at this one! Ive had my 41mm for 3 days now and only 2 sec fast in that time. I'm blown away!
Superb! So glad you have one my friend!
I gotta say that's a nice watch, but for half of that price. The Sinn 556 used to cost less, and now prices are going crazy. Meanwhile the Vostok Amphibia has gone up by 3-4$.
Sinn 556 used to be just under a grand now it's like $1500+!!!
That’s capitalism for ya
Your watch reviews are so much fun.😊
Your wife's thoughts are great!😂
That is because he is MAD!!!!!!
Thank you very much!
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR your 38mm mechanical looks great and fits well on your wrist. I thought you had got rid of it, glad you kept it
I love everything about this watch apart from the price 😂 I was honestly expecting this to be around half the price you said at the end. I hadn’t realised that Hamilton had put their prices up as much as they have.
Fantastic show as always MWC!
Cheers Gareth! Yeah I’m afraid those days of affordable Hammy’s are no longer here:(
I hope that clasp fits my Khaki Auto. I have always struggled with a comfortable fit as mine only has 2 adjustable points but love it so much I've just lived with it.
Hamilton usually means high prices average specs, but the name has the history. I like your field watch better!
For half the price and a truer representation of a former military watch?? Hard to argue!
you can measure Elapsed time over a Compass Bezel: The 90º Degress between N to East or North to West equals 15 minutes and as this turns for both sides, you can used it as a Countdown or Progress Elapsed Timer
Great review Russ!! I couldn’t help myself and got the 41 on bracelet. Absolutely love it. I hear what you are saying about the price, but to me, it really feels far more substantial than, say, my 38 khaki auto in titanium and that was close to 800 dollars. It won’t get much use but the rotating bezel looks great and adds to the overall package for me. I see it pushing into premium field/pilot watch kind of territory like Sinn, damasko, vertex, Hanhart for a MUCH lower price point than those. Just my two cents. Maybe I’m in the honeymoon period but I rarely wear a watch two days in a row, let alone the last week I have worn it exclusively… cheers!!!
@@thegornok but pretty much all luxury watches are technically overpriced, no?
I remember getting a Khaki King when I first got into the hobby for $340 grey market. Such a steal.
I have a couple Hamilton watches that I love the feel and look of on the wrist. I'm always open to more due to this and yet I always cough at the prices. I'd rather take $1k an put it toward a brand I don't have yet or to just put it toward a watch I feel matches that price point better. I agree with you 100%, love it outside of the price.
Yep, where do they think we are getting double the income from to pay almost a doubling of price??
I’m with you on this one Russ. If you’ve bought Hamiltons when they were ok value for money, congrats and keep hold of the em. Now they’ve priced themselves out of the only market that they actually competed in, the sub-£1000 Swiss watch with heritage and decent build quality market. The lume is terrible, the compass bezel is pointless, the movement is basic and can’t really be serviced by anyone other than Swatch, I agree about the display caseback, just isn’t needed, and it’s in a price bracket with others that offer better quality and COSC certified movement (Christopher Ward, ahem!).
Idk, you could say the same thing about Sinn 556s, no? Also a watch with all brushed, all printed markers, but those have always been around $1000.
I also think the price hike is egregious, but yeah, lots of watches aren't good value for money, they just look good
Got to agree and looks pretty basic to me...then again Hamilton's lost the plot some time ago in my opinion.
I buy all my Hamilton’s at Macy’s when they have their 25% off VIP/Friends and Family sales. Problem solved. Even still, I think a Hamilton Field is well worth $1k, sorry.
I wouldn't pay that price for a Powermatic 80 movement. Nothing about that movement is worth over a grand. I could care less about the power reserve it even has plastic parts
@@fark69 true, but the Sinn does offer a Sellita movement, the lume is going to be much better, and I’m sure they treat their stainless steel with some compound that makes it more scratch resistant.
Great review of a very nice watch. I'm a big Hamilton fan and 100% agree with you on the pricing. Too expensive now, which is a real shame.
Thank you my friend!
I own 3 Hammy's. Green Khaki Field Auto, Blue Khaki Dive Auto, and Jazzmaster Openheart Green Auto. I love them all. I saw this, and I'm a bracelet guy and need the 41mm...well, at that price it's going to have to wait a while hahaha. I will buy it eventually. Love my Hammy's. Oh, if you want lum, get a Seiko. Mine are so bright!!!!
YEESSS! I can’t believe you got your hands on one to review! Best man for the job on my opinion!
This was a stellar review of this watch. Thanks for calling out the lume, which isn't a surprise from Hamilton. The pricing discussion was needed as well. I do think maybe the Hamilton's had stayed a bit low for too long though. While not as jarring as JLC's price increases (one Polaris I'd looked at earlier this year jumped 25% in one day), it's still a bit shocking. It's definitely not just for our high inflation these last couple years. That being said, the movement is a little better than those lower end models, and the bracelet appears to be better too. I don't think a quick adjust at the 4 figure mark is too much to ask, personally. Hamilton being part of the Swatch group means they should have the resources to create a version of it befitting the price point. I think this has a bit of a neo-vintage/'90s vibe that I like. I was also quite impressed that your wife liked it. Adrian Barker had called one out other thing that was on point, and that is a bit more bracelet taper would have been nice. Still, I think it's not terribly out of place on a tool watch with a smaller taper. I just think it would be all time classic with that and a quick adjust.
When things start getting to that point, I start thinking why not spend a bit more on something like a Sinn 556A RS, Monta Triumph, or Oak & Oscar Olmsted. The last two even have quick adjust bracelets. I was blown away by the Triumph on wrist when I was at Chicago Windup, and it was just a fuzzy blip at the edge of my radar prior to that. Still, I wouldn't blame a soul for buying this new Hamilton.
Thank you for this my friend
Great comment really. I suppose the Hamilton name could be enough to push someone over the edge and snag it.
The price really puts me off. Something like that I'd be hard pushed to fork out £700. Great review as always mate, keep'em coming!
Agreed!!!
I haven’t liked any khaki model until now. The white dial 41mm size is very very nice looking and would be the one for me!
Really nice watch. I recently bought the 38mm murph, so can’t justify this at the moment. Still a great balanced review.
The only one I really love is their Khaki Aviation Pilot (Date Auto) Full Stainless ... (just how the dial is arranged) but I wish it would be more affordable and available in more sizes ^^ (and a bit of red on the seconds hand would have worked well)
Agree with you a bracelet with “adjustment on the fly” would kill it, and nobody would think the price is up and would justify the printed dial, but it’s good looking, I would stay whit my khaki king :)
Yeah, I am not sure about this one either. If I was going to spend around $1200 on a Hamilton Khaki, I would probably opt for the H70665130. Its a little bigger (42mm) as I have them thick wrists (8in) Plus I like the sandblasted, PVD Titanium look a bit more.
Probably the best Hamilton I’ve seen (only the 37mm). But the dial could have been better, and I think it’s a good £400-500 too much. A step in the right direction though.
I LOVE Hamilton. They make very beautiful and remarkable watches. We’re so lucky to be able to experience their pieces. #thankful
I had a Jedi vision you were going to like this! Hope I get to try this on the wrist soon
0:58 I laugh as my Alpinist is sitting right next to me on the desk.
I just got mine a couple of weeks ago and I LOVE IT.
love the fact that hamilton is delivering such quality
I love it when they have a display caseback. 👍🏻👍🏻
Never understood the NSEW bezel. If you know your hemisphere, you can work it out with your hands, as long as you adjust for Summer time. But it's frigging handsome. Yes.
Really enjoyed the video, such a beaut and I do quite like the compass bezel. Hamilton can do lume if they want, the new Frogman actually delivers bright and long lasting I have a vid on it against my lume champion an it genuinely does well 🙂... but this is perhaps a one off 😅 cheers this is a properly lovely looker, great presentation as always Russ 🍻
Will have to see how they look on the wrist as I was willing to pull the trigger on the 37mm on bracelet as soon as i saw it. I agree with you that the kaki field mechanical should have been more waterproof as I never take it on holiday because of the 50m limit 😢
Ps excellent vid as always 👌
Excellent point about the price hikes. It's bloody insanity and it's all across the industry.
all across everything really.
This is one of the best channels on RUclips. It's cartoonish, yet technical and informative 💯 thanks
Agreed - no date is good! BUT, $1k ?!?!?! NOT for me.
This does look nice.. That bit of lume missing on the 12 would drive me nuts though
Great as always. Small tip from your marketing agency mate here - try to say the “stick around to the end” before 30-40 seconds. instead of a minute in. You’re doing great. If you’re not making a living off this yet, you should be! 😃
Disregarding the price it’s a lovely watch and definitely a winner from Hamilton. Love looking at the bits and bobs working in the back so a great fan the case back
Cheers Paul!
I agree Russ. Hamilton used to be the goto for great quality affordable watches, but now a 38mm Murph will set you back the thick end of a grand. Shop around and you can pick up an Oris Divers 65 for the price of the Field Expedition; I know which one I'd choose.
YES! Been waiting for this review 🎉
I like it and agree with you on price and water resistance. I have the khaki filed auto silver dial, which is one of my favorite watches. Only minor issue I have is the push-pull crown instead of screw crown. I have a khaki king with the h-40 movement, push pull crown, and only 50 m water resistance. I would sell my khaki king to 'upgrade' to this one. I find the compass bezel unique.
Do you prefer your auto or king ?
@@daveLin104 I prefer the auto
@darrenhojnacki6636 why is that the size? I have the black dial auto and always get tempted by the black dial king ...
@@daveLin104 the king has crown guards I am not fond of and the water resistance is only 50m. The guards effect the winding of the watch since you do not unscrew it to wind it. It is a good watch, I just prefer the auto
The Lead Actor in the Martin Scorcese film After Hours wears a Hamilton Khaki throughout the film. Always wanted one after watching it in the 80s.
Love your videos. Thanks as always.
Thank you my friend!
Thanks for the review. The lume is upsetting for a tool watch at that price and I could do without the fauxtina on this model. I own a Khaki Action which has a similar dial, I feel like this watch is the spiritual successor to, but the Action dial is fully lumed. That watch is 20 years old. It didn't used to be a problem.
Love your channel Russell - I'd rock that Hammy all day long at $500. At 2x that price, it's not even close to being worth it to me. So many options from great micros and big brands alike with better, well, everything at that price...
Great review again. Nice one MWC
Triangle indice at the tip of the second hand should be mid located ... That would be more may be premium looking ... Also day complication should be added to the dial
Haven’t been back in awhile. 87,000. Was it the 5000 or 1000 celebration? Glad people are snowballing.
Well look who's showed up!!!! Thank you my friend!
Great watch, terrible price.
Great video with honest opinions, really like the new Hammilton , but and big but far too overpriced for me glad l snagged my khaki for under £400 especially since you mentioned the price hikes that'll position Hammilton to buyers with deeper pockets and thats a shame 😢
Thanks for the review.
Thats a beauty, but i wish the Lume was more modern (white instead of brown)
My Tissot T-race has hands which turn into an actual compass needle. Works at night too.
Love Hamilton, I own 2, the Khaki King and interstellar. This one looks good but doesn't give much functionality for the $. Plus Seiko has a very similar watch with an external compass bezel for allot less.
The Swiss have completely lost touch with reality.
Not in love but may look better in hand.
Thanks for the review.
Every single time it cuts to the 'DIAL TIME' snippet with the pitched down voice, I honestly have to pause as I'm laughing too much. There's something about it that just catches me right in the funnybone.
£1,035 is only in the UK because of the tax after Brexit. It retails for far less outside the UK at only around £860. And with some discount, you can pick it up for £650-700.
That’s more like it my friend
Tudor Ranger killer, it’s nice mate.
I love the blue dial variant I wish they sold that one on the bracelet.
Saw these last weekend and they look nice but that price!!??? I paid 575$ for my baby alpinist and you can get the “regular” alpinist for about 700-800$…
Now the one khaki i do want is the titanium with that new green dial! That does look nice
I agree that they are really cool watches with an authentic military heritage. But, unfortunately their prices (and they're not alone (Seiko)) are losing them a lot of potential customers such as myself.
Yeah, I actually think they’re looking at Seiko and thinking “why not us too?” If people are paying the prices, why not charge them..?
They’ll end up losing out to independent brands before too long though if you ask me.
The Bulova Devil Diver is 800 USD and that watch has a metal bracelet with a cheap stamped clasp. So Hamilton and Seiko aren't the only brands raising their prices. These brands seem to be focusing a lot on their heritage but leaving out key features like decent lume, upgraded bracelet, etc. Most people have really nice things to say about this Hamilton Watch despite it being over 1K.
I think this watch is a serious upgrade compared to the older ones. I'm glad I held off from buying the others . the fact it has a screw down crown is serious upgrade for me... I also find the new look of this watch is a happy medium does fit into a reliable adventure bit of kit but also u can use it to dress up very smart with it... as for the lume I dnt think people test a watch lume correctly... because u could have amazing lume an give it a 8 out of 10 bt it might fade very fast ... I'd rather have a 6 out of 10 bt it last all night...
I love the „Dialtime“😂😂👌🏻 wonderfull. Greetings from Austria👍🏻 bit its tonexpensive. Because the movement have just 3 Herz… it will be better if they got a movement with 4Herz…. 👍🏻 but the watch looks amazing. Like all hamiltons
Great video. I’m considering one but also feel like I might as well just put the money towards something up-market once we get over $1000. Anyway, I don’t really understand the disdain for compass bezels on tool watches. It’s called the expedition and it’s not a dive watch.. what on earth would you need a dive bezel for and why do people act like you couldn’t also use the compass bezel to track time considering the watch does have a well marked dial. Additionally I hike, ski, and camp in the North American wilderness where it’s not impossible to find yourself in a situation without a charged phone and needing to roughly navigate. Yes, use can navigate with any analog watch if you know how to but this bezel does make it just that much easier and all the shiny stainless steel could potentially help flash someone for rescue. Really I think the major cirque and thing that’s keeping me from having already purchased it is the “meh” ETA movement… on one hand I appreciate an 80hr power reserve but on the other I’m hearing wide ranging accuracies for this movement. But again, this is an expedition watch, not a chronograph… 🤷🏻♂️ I think it’s priced for the market… not a bargain but not a rip-off either simply because of the brand legacy. At the end of the day, name matters in watches and as a result companies can leverage that.
Thank you my friend!! What I would say is check the prices of the iconic Khaki king. Then you’ll realise it’s priced way too high for this brand. If this is what’s to come in terms of price correction on field watches, Hamilton could be out of reach for a lot of people in the future. Maybe this is what the brand wants?
At that price it has tough competition. I would personally go for a CW Sandhurst which is about the same price and cosc.
i would still go with the khaki field mechanical & just buy a suunto compass that i can attach to the strap, it’s not everyones cup of tea, but it works for me, & saves me a lot of money 😂
I like the watch, but that price is troubling. It looks like they are following Seiko's playbook of increasing the prices, but not making their watches better in return. That said, I do think the watch will sell. And for those who must have this watch, give it time and I suspect you'll be able to find it on the secondary/grey markets at a somewhat better price.
Agreed on all points.
At least they signed the crown unlike the newer Seiko Prospex watches. Shame on you Seiko.
@@markgill8444 fair point, hardly any of my Seikos have a signed crown.
I do like Hamilton. This new model is a winner for sure. I much prefer it to the Alpinist myself. The price however, yeah, bonkers! Then again, it seems to be my take on most new releases these days. Watch prices are getting well out of hand. Excellent review sir!
Definitely getting out of hand! Is it greed though or is everything alot more to make in 2023?!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Well the price of fuel seems to be up everywhere and that has a massive effect on the economy. The cost of living in Canada has gone through the roof this past coupleof years
Just got my self a nice tudor s n g gmt yesterday but now I want that badboy too .
The price alone would keep me from buying one. Great video. Have a great day!
Aahahhaah!
Pagani never fails.
Nearly everythings a ripoff nowadays.
Great review.
A fantastic review, Russ, thank you kindly! I must admit, its a nice watch. The design and vibe are right up my alley. I'm afraid the price will hold me back from this one. Once you're over 1000 there are A LOT of really nice options that have superior fit and finish for an equivalent performance/accuracy point... With the price of even the humble Khaki field creeping up, it seems the Seiko Midfield might be the "new" budget friendly field watch...
I like the size and the dial. But that bezel puts me off, no need and stops it looking as classy as it would without it. Also the price is radge! Great vid tho 👍🏻
Well, you *did* say this was meant to compete with the Seiko Alpinist, and *that* lineup's gone into the $1K price range pretty recently, so it shouldn't really be a surprise. I suspect if Hamilton does a collab with Swatch, they'll keep that 10ATM WR and swap out the movement for a quartz, and it should sell for slightly under the price of a MoonSwatch.
Alpinist over $1k is the GMT model right? That price hike is crazy too, imo. This doesn't offer any extra functionality for $300-400 more
Hamilton Khaki Expedition with a new hat. Never a fan of fauxtina. Unlike others, I prefer a date complication, cleaved the movement from a smooth 4hz to a sticky ticky 3hz. Power reserve is not an issue for me and would prefer the hypnotic sweeping seconds hand. Lame water resistance, again with no AR coating (non listed on the Hamilton
Website in the spec sheet) and a ridiculous price. Will pass on this one too and keep rocking my vintage Hamilton Seabeach III.
I recently bought a field mechanical from Jomashop for roughly USD400. Suuuuper watch.
IMO the best watches by specialty are:
Prestige: Rolex
Lume: Citizen
Utility: Casio
Value: Casio
Durability: Casio G-Shock
Versatility: tough one...either Hamilton or Seiko
This is a bit lobsided at the top! GUARENTEE not only divers throughout history , but all the innovations they have done… Seiko . Rolex gives watches out to elites. Seiko hardly ever! The watches do the talking! Churchill was gifted his Rolex, Federer gifted and paid . There speciality is under a different header (marketing)
Solar power: Citizen and Casio
The whole time I was thinking... that's a 300 quid watch. Imagine my surprise when you revealed the asking price.
Not in 2023 man
I like this one ! Maybe prices follow Seiko trend.
Definite price structuring going on!
For me, I much rather spend this kind of money on a Seiko Alpinist GMT SPB379 than this. That's just me though.
Wow, I got the khaki aviation pilot pioneer, with two crowns and 1 jazzmaster GMT
Awesome review my friend
Plastic bits only matter to me if it affects reliability and serviceability when it comes to the value end. Honestly it's probably somewhat a plus given the amount of magnetic fields we deal with these days.
Can't imagine swapping the (I think it's just two parts?) plastic bits from the same movement justifies this kind of price increase.
That said, if Swatch tries to give me "polymer" parts in an Omega movement I'd personally get in line to deliver their CEO a slap across the face right back
It may (definitely) be overpriced, but what's worse? A couple of hundred on a Hamilton or the 1 or 2 thousand some of the higher end brands have slapped on their watches over the past few years (way above inflation)? I for one am actually tempted, but that clasp will probably make it or break it for me. A smaller clasp and/or taper would have been preferred, especially considering the watch dimensions overall.
Oh and great review! 👌
Hahahaha cheers Mark! For me it’s the H10, that dumbed down ETA . A watch with a grands price tag should not have a 3hrz movement that doesn’t even specify the accuracy!
Personally i prefer a slower beat movement... my almost 60yr old (which my sister found on a beach that long ago) 1675 GMT keeps unbelievable time, possibly because it's been turning slower all these years 🤔.
Great review, again, btw 🍻 👏 ~
Recently I am liking smaller watches. Certainly they are more vintage appearing. And I'm tired of huge diver's watches.
Definitely a trend setting in deeply now!
Great video question for you! As your liked the Tudor BB54 which is 37mm I am now torn between this Hamilton watch 37mm or the Tudor!??? Help!
I’m not a huge fan of the 54 , much prefer my 58! Well first of all this is a third of the price!! It’s also not a diver! If you like this hamilton my advice is to wait as I can see this being turned into a diver just with the change of the bezel !
Cool watch, but I would rather get 2 Alpinists for the price of 1 of these. This watch should be $750 USD MAX. I would argue the Alpinist is a better watch, and is nearly half the price
I think it would be nice if they would offer a version with the stainless steel bezel but with dive style markers.