Plumbing Fuel Lines For the New Drag and Drive Fuel System
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its all looking great!
A friend of mine said it looked like metal luggage🤣
@@Burndown This video shows much more clearly Your intended arrangement, connections, interconnections, function with Your dual tank system for "Maliboom". 😏
Thus, it seems to be basically proper too. 🤓
Going to a track rental at irwindale tomorrow. Shooting for 5.40s with my sbe 5.3.
Why not 4s?? lol
@@funfun8095 vs 88/96 and stock case glide. In a 3000 lb car. On a slick not a radial. with a converter specd for no prep. It will be there next year.
That’s hauling the mail. What car do you drive? I’m sure I have seen it. Only a handful of cars hit those numbers at the Dale. I have never left on boost in the maliboom yet🤣 When I hit the 5.xx mark I’m going to be excited!
@@funfun8095 The Dale used to be worse then no prep. Even JJ the boss complained about Irwindale. But they have since turned it around a bit and got a better prep guy, and I think the record for the track is in the 4.xx range now 1/8 mile of course.
@@Tinibuilt 👍
Whats there to stop the small tank from Siphon feeding?
I think I explained this, but there’s no hose in the little tank to pick the fuel up to siphon it over. It’s just a bulkhead.
Oh yeahhh!
When are you gonna come out and dragon drive man? I don’t think I’ll ever get Matt to go and suffer but you have to be dumb enough to come out and drag drive no?😁
I read online if you use aluminum fuel line with E85 it needs to be anodized. What’s your thoughts on that?
About to order parts to redo the ebay soft line on my Chevelle and get a similar box of parts to what you have in the video here using hardline.
This car has had the same lines and tank in it from the original video of when I installed the eBay fuel cell. The only problem I have with my fuel set up was the float for the level center the lines and everything has been fine. Not sure how aluminum would do with methanol but seems to be fine with E85 no special or anything.
@Josh-kh6dm; Firstly, never attempt to consult with or use "forums" to attain any proper, correct, valid, accurate, precise, exact information, knowledge, principles; they have been full of Falsehood, Pretense, Distortions, LIES, incorrect, improper, invalid, misleading, misdirecting, claims, information, misinformation, disinformation, mal-information, etc.
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@@Burndown
Here is some correct, important information, knowledge about fuels, materials, chemicals which is useful, helpful, beneficial:
Some basic chemistry: 🤓
A. ethanol [C2H6O=C2H5-OH=CH3-CH2-OH] and methanol [CH4O=CH3-OH] are hydrocarbon, alcohol, organic molecule, compounds; the -OH classifies them within alcohol molecules, compounds
B. common "gasoline" is a hydrocarbon fuel which is undefined, unspecified mixture, combination, composition of many forms of hydrocarbon fuels, mostly alcohols, with no specific proportions with any of them, also derived from a refinement process of petroleum oil which contains many hydrocarbon, organic molecules, compounds; octane rating has a loosely correlated relationship which does not relate to specific content, quality, energy, power [common misconception], except the burn rate of the mixture.
C. aluminium does not corrode, nor oxidize - anyone claiming such, lacks proper basics within proper knowledge, chemistry, physics -> there are some other chemical affects with, upon aluminium as seen in radiators with electrolyte, sediment build up.
D. certainly all hydrocarbon fuels including common gasoline, ethanol, methanol do not harm, adversely affect aluminium, as we see, know that engine blocks, pistons, cylinder heads, fuel rails made of aluminium and aluminium alloys which operate, function, with longevity, reliability, durability for long periods, years with no issues.
E. The main issues all types of hydrocarbon fuels with other materials [usually not metals], are with other organic compounds
1. all flexible materials in tubes, hoses, "o-rings", floats, etc. along with plastics and other polymers, which nearly all are produced from various synthetic polymer organic compounds, thus vulnerable to chemical reactions
2. just as common plastic bottles, containers are not suitable for use with common gasoline, ethanol, methanol, et al,, result in chemical reactions, damage, such some that are suitable for common gasoline are not suitable for, with ethanol and methanol, along with some suitable for, with ethanol are not suitable, less durable for methanol due to the chemical reaction differences.
3. thus ethanol and methanol have different chemical reaction characteristics compared with common gasoline, such require different synthetic polymer organic products because of the chemical reactions, thus damage, durability.
E. Clearly since aluminium is suitable for ethanol, so too it is certainly suitable for methanol
=> see all of the vehicles, especially racing vehicles which use aluminium fuel lines, rails, etc.
F. Certainly there is no need for anodized aluminium process, method for ethanol or methanol. Simple. Period.
All of this is certainly verified by [other] proper chemists, engineers and experts.🤓
Hopefully 🙄 this basic information, knowledge is useful, helpful, beneficial 😏
All The Best 😊, Sincerely ☺
Wish i was half as good as you.
It took me all day to make the lines that you see in the video. The main thing I would say is plan out the route hard mount your items if you can before you do the plumbing have something to plumb to. It’s easy to just stare at stuff and not make things and get carried away on. How am I gonna do this? Plus aluminum hardline is cheap so if it’s ugly, or you screw it up, you can fold it in half, throw it on the ground, step on it, and then put it in the trash can so you feel better.
looking good man!
Appreciate it!
Looks great
Thanks!
So my question is, why didn't you use the smaller race tank as a surge tank type setup? One big fuel line to the front of the car, the big tank pumps the smaller one full all the time. You'd only have to shut off the transfer pump at the track. Just curious, because this is what I was planning on doing, but wondering why you went with this setup instead.
I have two tanks to run two different fuels. One will be whatever garbage pump fuel I can find to put in the car to drive form track to track and the small tank is for E85 to race on. A surge tank is just is what it says it is. It wouldn't solve the problem of switching fuels over.
@@Burndown my theory was that you turn off the transfer tank prior to the track and run it out (or have a drain to the larger tank). You just fill the smaller tank at the track with e85, and race on the small tank. Then you turn on the transfer pump for the road again. I was just thinking it eliminates a Y in the line to the rails and check valves.
@@theevilbeard That’s a rad idea! The reason I want to keep the drive pump in the big tank is your fuel is used to cool the pump. When you drive your car for 10-12 hours or so everything gets heat soaked so a being a return style system you want to drive on a small pump so you return less fuel. Your idea would work but it would add a 4th pump I think but would eliminate check valves. I may do this in the future like a surge tank basically.
@@Burndown I don't think you'd need a fourth pump. My plan was to have the big tank (road tank) pump into the smaller tank (and it would overflow back to the larger tank when it filled) and the car would run on 1 of the pumps in the small tank for the road (my second pump comes on with a boost trigger from the Holley). The only downside is you're running the bigger pump more, but that shouldn't be an issue with quality pumps.
The setup you have is close, just instead of the big tank y-ing into the fuel supply line, it just goes into the little tank. The bonus is like when I go to my local track here, I can just fill the entire system with e85 and it's a surge tank. On a drag and drive, it's a dual fuel setup.
@@theevilbeard I like your idea and may change my set up to do that in the future. Driving on big pumps returns more fuel and speeds up heat soak unfortunately. That’s what I’m getting away from. But, I think your idea with a variable brushless set up in the small tank would be the shit. I’m looking at upgrading to brushless at some point so I may re plumb it like you’re talking about. IMO that would probably be best of both worlds. I can even hang a second “transfer” pump for redundancy so all I would have to do is swap the line over and plug it in if it died on the road.
What pan are you running? Is it a stock dod pan with the check valve still installed?
No
@@funfun8095 was just asking because he keeps having oil and bearing issues. The stock dod pans have a check valve that needs to be blocked.
@@Tinibuilt It's not a stock pan. It's a Chinese knock off of a holley pan.
@@funfun8095 got it. Hate to see built combos having problems like that. My junkyard 5.3 with ring gap makes north of 4 digits to the wheels and keeps taking what i throw at it. I’d be pissed if i put my piston rod setup together and had problems. Its common.
@@Tinibuilt I think he needs to run more quarts of oil, than he is. We all know the LS engines, with the good pumps, suck a lot of oil.
The reason Cleetus just blew one up. Pete said he needs to run 8 to 9 quarts, instead of 6 or 7. He showed the data log and how it hot worse during the pass.
Nice parts, that Derale oil bulkhead is new to me.
Yeah, it’s a nice part. It’s one of the more expensive adapters, but it’s a critical piece so that’s not the part you wanna skimp on. Oil seems to be pretty important to a motor.🤣
Your fuel lines are like artwork. Impressive job!
Thank you. I have always enjoyed hard lines even when I screw one up and have to start over.
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Fun fun!!