For the PRS, why not a washer or spacer? I like the T-shape, just watch them. The standard Fender I tie a piece of rawhide string onto it, works great. My fave. Hate the Shallers. I use mostly #10, it's a Dunlop without the straplock.
I have had the same Dunlop on my strap for 15+ years. Love it, but good point about the spring...might be time to retire and replace, probably with another Dunlop...I love em!
I don't mind the Dunlops at all. I've been using them since the 80s and never dropped a guitar. I didn't know about the 'oversized' ones though so I might try some out. Thanks!
Same. Convenience, and the added benefit of extending the horn fulcrum point, for neck heavy instruments, will keep me a diehard user on every bass I buy and build.
The dunlop dual-loks have the oversize button but will still fit the other part of a strap-lok. You can buy buttons seperately. I use the dual-loks myself. I don't share his concern about failure.
Little known fact the Dunlops locking mechanism is a copy of the USMCs sniper rifles sling mounts .Depending on accessories they can weigh 20 lbs in the field. Good enough for the Corp good enough for me . Never had a failure.
The Dunlop Dual Design strap locks stick out slightly farther than others so you can use them as conventional strap buttons in the event that you lose or forget your lock-equipped strap. I have Dunlop Dual Design strap locks on the basses I gig (including a Warmoth Deluxe 5 J) and have never had a problem. I love that they allow the strap to swivel as you move. I use Fender-branded "Grolsch washers" on another bass. They were tough to put on but do a good job. So long as you don't mind leaving your strap on, they are a pretty good (and cheap) option. I still believe the Dunlop Dual Design lock is best, but your criticism is completely reasonable.
Yes, yes, 1,000 times yes! Couldn't agree more about the elegance, simplicity, and functionality of the oversized strap button. They look good, too! You nailed it, Aaron!
You are definitely not full of it. Many beginners should watch this video instead of watching guitar reviews. So in depth and thoughtful. And I use schaller s locks on my les paul, but I'm now considering getting the oversized strap buttons on my acoustic. Thanks for the video!
Agree on most accounts. I use Dimarzio, Dunlop, Schaller and Grolsch. Mostly whatever came on the guitar. I like the Dimarzio ones but hate the plastic clip bashing up the guitar. The Schallers are nice, but squeaky and I found that the part that attaches to the strap loosens over time, unless you really squeeze it (deforming your strap). It always rotates on me. I also don’t think the extra security is even needed. So by default my favorites are Dunlop. You can get them with buttons that also can be used with a normal strap.
A latecomer here. I just saw this video about a week ago. Ordered one set of the oversized strap buttons, just to see if they were everything you said they were. Yes! They are! Within a 1/2 hour of trying these on my "go-to" Strat, I ordered another five sets for my other electric guitars. These are just what I hoped they would be: Big enough to keep the strap on without fail, easy enough to remove the strap when I want, and no more locks to get loose or rubber washers to fall off. Thanks! You've made me a fan and I'll be checking out your other vids over time.
I still love my Dunlops! If you forget your strap, any strap will still work with those buttons. Never had them fail nor heard of them failing. Also, if the way they stick out bothers you the button can be sunk into the body for a flush fit and the strap doesn’t stick out so far
Schaller strap locks on my electrics since mid-90’s. Love them, and when I was gigging with multiple guitars - essential for quick change. Thanks a million for presenting the redesign !!!! I’m going to pick those up now. Love this channel, dude your the perfect spokesperson.
Just to say thanks to sales department. These guys kindly took quick action on my request. I appreciate your work an customer service, even with a small thing like a strap button. Thanks again!
To be honest - I've used the Dunlop strap locks for 10 years on 4 of my guitars (plenty of gigging) - they've never even once looked anywhere near like failing...
I've never had a Dunlop fail me and they're on every bass in my collection (30 total). The 1" offset you mention is a plus! It allows neck heavy basses to have a more forward anchor & fulcrum point which helps tremendously. Also, at the rear of the bass, it allows room for the cable to be looped over without constantly rubbing the bass finish. And, I can snap any strap I own to any bass in a matter of seconds... no wrestling to get the strap over a button everrrr.
Definitely agree with this! I've been using Dunlop for years and they are on all of my basses (13, so far). I had a Rickenbacker that came standard with Schallers and I honestly hated them. They're very secure when attached, but the removal process was always awkward for me.
I love the dunlops. The thing I like more is to change the screw to a better, very strong stainless screw that's a little thicker and longer. I like that the strap stays off the bodies, particularly on a collection of unorthodox, pointy guitars. I like that they keep the strap from chafing up the horns and body. Here's the from getting caught on the ends. And to be able to put all the screws and buttons in the guitars, and just have one strap that clickclicks to them all if I want is great. Or 2. I don't see the springs EVER failing. I've used them for decades now. Never had a spring fail, or a clip come out.
You nail it down 100% ,coming from a mechanical perspectives ,building cars 🚗, and starting my music 🎶journey, I picked the schaller's,thanks very much for the Gibson review lol 😆😄, my friend just replaced his with the schaller's locking 🔒😀😆his Gibson thanked him immediately 😀
From my shooting experience, the push button locking systems are my favorite. Dunlop flush mounts are my favorite. The flush mount puts the lock close to the guitar. Push it in, listen for the click, pull to double check. Between the dunlop and rifle slings, I have never had any failures across multiple units, and decade of use. And if you want seriously overbuilt, install rifle sling mounts.
Dunlop IS an oversized strap button with a strap lock built in as well. Also Dunlop makes x3 different buttons that accept their lock system one being a flush mount and it’s based on an aviation cargo restraint design so... Dunlop for the win
I have used the Dunlop strap locks since the early eighties. Never had a failure. I have played in bar bands and wedding bands all those years. I have a different strap for each guitar and it goes in the case with the guitar.
I've tried several varieties, and you're absolutely right about the non-round ones always managing to unscrew themselves. I finally settled on the Schaller S-Locks about a year ago and haven't looked back; I like that unlike the DiMarzio straplocks, even if you forget your strap, you can still use any strap with them, they just won't lock. And, they're nice and quiet.
We need more guitar channels like this one. So much of what makes a guitar work for you are these fine details that have so much to do with feel, things you don’t realize until you’re living with a guitar on a day to day basis. Also, the Gretsch straplock is an interesting solution as well.
Splendid - I agree fully with your judgements - I have written down "oversized strap buttons" ... couldn't believe Gibsons was so cheezy. Once upon a time I had their ES 355 TDC semi-acousticand those were the days of lovely Italian leather straps. Not any more eh? I don't play out now I just fool around at home - but I do think I should improve my guitar strap. Thanks for showing everything suscinctly and directly in close-ups. Terrific. An oversized top flat head is just the thing. Many thanks.
I use dimarzio clip locks, but with the guitars original strap button at the front of the screw! Never ever had to use the button, and some of these clip locks have endured thousands of gigs and rehearsals! Gigging professionally since '88
My old Dean ML has strap buttons that are just like those "oversized" ones you showed last that it came with by default! They're a bit bigger than the buttons on my other guitars and mushroom shaped just like that (rounded outside, flat inside). I've always wondered why they aren't all like that, and didn't realize for a long time that most other buttons aren't like that! It's a far superior design.
Schaller user here. Love them, still have older design on my guitars. Yes, they were kind of noisy, although it never really bothered me because the noise is easily drown out by the amp, but it's sure a bit noisy when you just pickup a guitar and play unplugged(let alone using them on an acoustic). However, the biggest issue they had (which they also fixed with the new design) was the nut on the straps getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nuts to prevent them from getting loose. No need for such "fix" anymore with the new ones. That being said, with any strap button, you still need to check from time to time if it hasn't came loose from the guitar. The big advantage of a strap lock mechanism is the ease of taking the strap off and on, for when you want to switch straps or using the same strap of different guitar (personally, I have one strap for every guitar, especially since my guitars has different shapes and sizes, requiring different length adjustments), and most importantly, to store the guitar in its molded hard case, which usually don't have much room to leave the strap on. An oversized strap button is simple and works, but it's an hassle to remove the strap, and obviously, the strap holes tend to get bigger and bigger the more you remove and put it back on, making it less and less effective.
Aaron, I have only been watching your Warmoth videos for a week or two but what really strikes me is your honesty and down to earth delivery. Considering RUclips has become a big series of advertisements, where everything people talk about is 'great', it is refreshing to hear your honest opinions - even where you feel that there are some better options than the stock Warmoth products. This actually makes me MORE likely to buy from Warmoth and I look forward to the day I can start a build with an order from you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, as it has become one of my favourite channels.
Me and a buddy walked into a guitar store about 15 to 20 years ago. the guys at the store knew me pretty good so there was never any problem walking in there and playing any instrument and any amp, so the guitar of the day was a Peavey Wolfgang. retailed around 5000 to 6000, had a 10 top carved quilt top dyed purple with mahogany body and maple neck. sweet guitar, and into a 5150 amp. was ready to rock, this particular model had schaller locks. borrowed a strap from the guys at the store. when suddenly the strap locks came unscrewed and face 1st the guitar smashed into the concrete floor. totally wrecked. Appologized for the incident they took responsibility , I will never ever use schaller strap locks... Didn't even get a chance to strum a chord or wank a guitar lick.. lol
My Yamaha the lightweight, quirky RGX A2, has oversized strap buttons. They exude confidence. I also have Dunlop Strap Locks -- 25+ years -- with no issues, although I don't gig.
I feel so vindicated! I was like 19 or 20 years old. (45 now) Had just bought a Les Paul classic Gold Top. Brought it to band practice and let my singer play it. It immediately fell off those horrible strap buttons! Landed right on the headstock. Everyone in the room froze, stopped and stared. We were kids and this was a real Les Paul! Highly coveted. Everyone knew it was a big day! It now has cracks down the neck at the feet board. I brought it to my local wizard and had it glued. It's never been an issue in 20 years. But to see my brand new Gold top land head first after owning it for only a few hours. It was a bad bad day.
I have to disagree about Dunlop: it is true that in theory "there is nothing supporting your guitar if it fails", but in reality they NEVER failed in a million years. The best ones for me. But the most beautiful and elegant of all was the "swallow tail" strap lock Ibamez used on the old Musician basses.
Very informative video, Aaron. I like your opinionated but well-reasoned attitude. I need to replace some crusty old strap buttons and this info helps.
LOVE this... interestingly I'd moved away from the Dunlop straploks to the older Schallers and didn't know there was an update! That said... I love the simplicity and universality of the oversize strap button. You may have convinced me. And... great job acknowledging your biases while defending - quite intelligently - your opinion. There are many who might learn from that approach to what could become an otherwise cantankerous debate. Great job! Ah, decisions decisions...
Hallelujah, Aaron! Been touting these for years. But they were somewhat hard to find. Really glad Warmoth now sells them. Now I need another set for for ES-339. :-)
he is taking about what he likes and what he don't, he's not talking about what realy works, I've use many different strap locks for the past 25 years and the dunlop's are the only ones that never fail
Really helpful. I was looking for one that does not protrude so much from the guitar, yet is secure. I learned of the oversized from your vid. Thank you!.
This is a great video; the details on all of the strap button options are spot-on! After decades of playing guitar and bass along with years of guitar tech work, my conclusions are pretty closely aligned to your video breakdown.
Aaron, I do like the oversized mushroom strap buttons. I had a couple that came on a Hamer Sunburst. But they are my number two pick. My number one pick is the Dunlop Straplok. I love them and put them on every guitar. Elegant design. Really work. And because of the way the strap buttons are designed, if you leave your strap at home, you can still use them with another strap in a pinch. The way they stand off of the guitar doesn't bother me at all.
I found this subject way more interesting than I was expecting! I also prefer and exclusively use Schallers -for all the reasons discussed here. Thanks Aaron!
So incredible! The Strap buttons on my RG655 are of the almost same shape as the No.1. I once bought two pairs of Schaller S-Lock, one to replace the original simple buttons on my Performer Strat, and one for the RG655 which was yet on the way shipping to me. But after it came to my hand, I found these buttons so exquisitely crafted, that I finally give up the idea of replacing them. Now Aaron's opinion approved that it was such a wise choice!
Aaron, having a science background, I support your conclusion that the oversized strap button with the flat back and slightly rounded crown is the best choice! Its basic physics and geometry, the flat back keeps the strap from migrating over the edge of the larger diameter button, and the rounded crown allows for easy strap installation. The PRS button design was almost there, but they forgot to include a spacer where the shaft of the button meets the guitar. I would shy away from the DiMarzio clip locks because those plastic clips tend to wear out over time (just like on suitcases). I have tried the washers and they tend to fly away (just pop off the strap button). Sold, I will be purchasing extra-large strap buttons from Warmoth.
I think one piece of your logic has a fatal flaw here. Maybe it's the lack of tea in this video. Dunlop straplocks have the added bonus of being oversized if you don't have a strap with the lock ends on them. With the Schaller locks, you have this "worse than Gibson buttons" tiny strap button if you don't have your strap with the lock ends on it. As per your own example, if you forget your strap, at least the Dunlop works well with any strap. To be clear, I used Schaller locks for a lot of years (because Warmoth), and I swapped over to Dunlop 8 years ago because someone stole my strap on the second gig of an 11 show jaunt up and down the coast. I had three different people loan me straps, and all of them tried to kill my Tele by totally not staying on to that tiny dumb button. GC in Hollywood was out of stock of the Schaller locks when we got to town, and I made the shift to Dunlop. I've never had the locks fail me (and I guarantee I'm harder on strap buttons than most). I actually like having the strap a bit off the body, because I can loop the cord through the strap without wearing the finish.
I've had my blue Dimarzio strap lock since I bought it in 1991. It's been to Hell and back with me and looks like it but it still works. The Schallers look cool, though. I might get some of those for my other guitars. Thanks for the shootout.
I like that you do a Top 10 list, and start #10-7 by saying "I hate these"! My personal favorite is Dunlop StrapLok. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying that I've used them on pretty heavy instruments since 1997, and have not had a single one fail on me yet. So for me reliability is one of the key selling points. And also looks. I only use the flush mount kind, so when the strap isn't on there, there's nothing sticking out from the instrument. The bass I bought in -97 came with them pre-installed, and I just fell in love with look, so I've installed them on every instrument I've gotten since (which are mostly Warmoth). It has the disadvantage that if I forget my strap, I can't use any strap that doesn't have straploks. On the other hand I get one strap per instrument, and just never take it off, so it's not a problem.
Cool! Good info. I've got a set of S Locks that I've yet to put on my LP. I agree with your assessments, though I did use Dunlops for years on my old LP Custom. They were the first ones I'd ever seen and I had no complaints. It's a good thing we don't know each other. We think way too much alike. 😂
I love the style of presentation on this channel. Very entertaining without being offensive to anyone. Btw I totally agree with the rundown. Oversized strap buttons on all my guitars too, albeit with DiMarzio clip locks fitted over them.
I have the older Schaller's on some of mine and you're not kidding about the noise lol, I tend to go with the Dunlop's because I can get them in flush mount so they don't stick out a mile. (Super boned if I were to forget the strap tho) And I always have some of the rubber retainers in every case and bag, even for the ones that don't need them. Great content! Keep it up!
I have been using the oversized strap buttons and I love them! I wish I was able to order just one set and not four of five, but they are worth it to have around to use for a new guitar or to give to a family member or friend.
I'm really gonna sit here and watch a 14 minute video about strap buttons and eat toasted Cheez-Its, huh. Anything for you, Aaron. (Edit: I've been using the DiMarzio ClipLocks for over two year now and those are spectacular, and I'm pretty good about keeping the strap attached or in the guitar case so I'm not worried about losing or forgetting it)
Glad to know my DiMarzio strap locks/clips choice are good. I'm not worried about forgetting my strap because I never take it off. I bought my strap lock when I was trying to get my band started and now I don't use anything else they just feel sturdy and reliable never ever worry about my instrument falling ever!
This was a shockingly honest, humorous, and well informed video about strap buttons. Thank you. I mean, who really wants their 3k guitar to slip away from your strap and go crashing to the ground?
Thanks for not overlooking the little things like strap buttons. It's this kind of attention to detail that I really appreciate. I've been using S-locks, because I couldn't find anything that I liked that might be "better" in my opinion. I dislike the standard buttons for the same reason you mentioned, but don't honestly care for strap locks. I'm going to buy a couple of sets of the oversize buttons and give them a shot. Who knows; maybe I'll end up doing a full-fleet replacement!
The Malmsteen Strat comes with a recessed Dunlop Strap Lock pre installed. Strap just pops in, flush to the guitar. Very cool. Must be a slightly precarious install at the factory though.
@@warmoth I’m a fan boy. Since he moved to Seymour Duncan for his pickups (around 2011) he changed all his guitars from Clip Locks to the recessed Dunlop. I have one of each. I’ll be putting the S-locks on any future guitars though. Perfect hybrid, without the clickity clack.
I've been using Schaller's Since the '80's, but health has made it hard to pull the grips. Making the oversized buttons look VERY good! Nice presentation, thanks!
I had a Dunlop come apart once, decades ago. Switched to Schallers and never looked back. It's teh first thing I order when I get a new electric guitar.
I've always liked how my Ibanez guitars all came with those oversized strap buttons but I ended up swapping them out for Dimarzio cliplocks. Been using them for 25+ years and never had an issue. I keep the straps in their respective cases so it's not like I'll ever forget them.
Most disconnects come during the first moments of putting your guitar on and also how you put the guitar (and strap) down. I use the large buttons but also mindfulness, presence and a mandatory good grip on the guitar until a visual check is completed goes a long way. Professional habits yield professional results. Every amusement park has that guy that checks your belt so accidents can be avoided, they guard their money, you guard yours.
I really like Loxx strap locks. Low profile and super secure. Only downside is the button on the guitar itself, it’ll only work with a strap with a Loxx strap lock on it
I have mushroom buttons on my LP that are shaped like oversized buttons, but aren't oversized. I find they're a good balance of not coming off accidentally and not being hard to take off intentionally. I do use a washer on my Tele with standard buttons, just on the top one. Once the screw reaches a certain looseness, the button stops turning it and just spins around.
I had the old Schaller and nearly dropped my guitar, because the securing screw nut loosened itself. Looks like the new ones have a small locking screw inside of it, which solves this problem - but quite complicated. I switched to using Earnie Ball Strap Locks which have the locking nut on the inside which means the strap still holds even if it should loosen.
thanks I just got my first Gibson les paul standard and I'm looking for a good straplock and I agree on your top 2 the redesign is what that lock needed I watched a video from 4 years ago and looks like they fixed the issue but I'll check more info on them👍🏻
Just convinced me to get a set of black oversized for my contemporary strat! And I've never heard of grolsch before this, but I do quite like using the washer style strap blocks in a pinch. I got like 12 of them for 5 bucks and they're great for cheap guitars I don't want to modify, new guitars transitioning to a more stable strap solution, and I hand them out to my students. They certainly don't hold up to time or against something as robust as schaler, but they have their place
I made a couple of guitar straps out of the legs from my worn out jeans. So comfortable. And to attach them to the guitar I use a pair of chunky shoe laces tied to a regular strap button with a clove hitch, which is a self tightening knot. Solid. The strap is soft, so it folds nicely into the case with the guitar. I also have a couple of guitars I use shop bought straps with, and somehow I just don't feel as connected to the guitar.
I have been wanting to upgrade my strap locks for months now! My straps are “learning” how to slip off my guitar more and more lately and this video was perfectly timed for me. Thanks man! New to channel, but liked and subscribed!!
Love it! Thank you. I'm a huge fan of Dunlop. Used them exclusively since the 1980's with zero issues. I started with Schaller but they had a square corner on the strap part that cuts through the strap leather in time. I've also had the strap portion come unscrewed repeatedly. All that ended when I switched to Dunlop. Perhaps the new ones solve these issues?
When I bought my Gretsch in '18 I didn't play it on stage (Sunday morning church band) until I put Schallers on it. In the few and far between times I get a new guitar I won't play it anywhere until I put some kind of locking system on the strap. I've never dropped a guitar due to a strap button but I've them slip out of my hands several times.
Hi Aaron: I agree with your classification. I personnally use oversized strap buttons and the Schaller locking model. The advantage of the Schaller is that you can have one strap only, equipped with the locking system and use it on all your guitars fitted with the Schaller strap buttons... Also - particularly for heavy guitars - they are providing a longer/larger screw which can help consolidating the grip ! No use of having a good strap button/locking button, if the whole system will just jump out because of a poor/small screw holding it into the guitar...
I just got a new 2022 Les Paul Standard 50s and don't know what to do. Really don't want to modify this beautiful instrument at all. I've bought a few of these solutions. I'm leaning toward the Schaller S-Locks, but don't want to even modify the guitar that much. The journey for knowledge continues. Ugh.
@@dogbreath203 I ended up just getting the oversized strap buttons. After installing those it finally felt secure to play standing up. I would definitely go that route.
a 13 minute video about strap buttons? thats how you know this channel is legit
LOL. I did say right up front I was gonna geek out hard! Haha!!
So few people giving brutally honest opinions - even about gear they sell. Keep this up. Really like all the videos you do a lot. Thank you.
Keeping it real for my homies. :)
Feathered and lethal!!! :)
I watched a whole video on strap buttons. and I liked it.
I was just thinking the same thing. 😁
But which sound the best? We need a side-by-side tone comparo!
on a guitar with Nitro or PU finish?
25 years of gigging and thousands of gigs with Dunlop Straplocks and never had an issue. Love the channel.
I bought a Gibson ES-35 in 1982 and I've been using the same Dunlop strap locks with the same leather strap this entire time.
Schaller locks. There is no other
Pfffft......planet waves for me. Full snoot mode.
Aaron: "...on the biggest, heaviest guitar there is."
Me: Eyes my acrylic Warlock.
LOL....I stand corrected!
@@warmoth to their benefit (or perhaps mine) BC Rich shipped it with oversized strap buttons.
LOL, shots fired at the Grolsch fan boys. They are totally like a cult on the forums.
For the PRS, why not a washer or spacer? I like the T-shape, just watch them. The standard Fender I tie a piece of rawhide string onto it, works great. My fave. Hate the Shallers. I use mostly #10, it's a Dunlop without the straplock.
Two beers for free with your purchase, bro. Two.
Nobody would mention those washers if they came with preparation H.
Love the beer but never tried the washer
I’ve been using Dunlop strap locks for 30 years and never had an issue.
25 years here. I used the Schallers first but got tired of tightening them all the time. Dunlop's are really the best there are.
20 years. They have that satisfaction in Clic that Schaller doesn't. Being use both for 20+ years, and never had an issue.
I have had the same Dunlop on my strap for 15+ years. Love it, but good point about the spring...might be time to retire and replace, probably with another Dunlop...I love em!
Springs have never given out. Can't find a negative at all with the Dunlop design.
Me too. 30 years of heavy use on my Yamaha and 10 on my Smith.
They never fail.
I don't mind the Dunlops at all. I've been using them since the 80s and never dropped a guitar. I didn't know about the 'oversized' ones though so I might try some out. Thanks!
Yep, since the 80's for me as well. I've NEVER had an issue, but I do clean and lube them annually.
@@Rico_G Me too. A tiny drop of 3-in-1 oil every year
Same. Convenience, and the added benefit of extending the horn fulcrum point, for neck heavy instruments, will keep me a diehard user on every bass I buy and build.
The dunlop dual-loks have the oversize button but will still fit the other part of a strap-lok. You can buy buttons seperately. I use the dual-loks myself. I don't share his concern about failure.
Little known fact the Dunlops locking mechanism is a copy of the USMCs sniper rifles sling mounts .Depending on accessories they can weigh 20 lbs in the field. Good enough for the Corp good enough for me . Never had a failure.
The Dunlop Dual Design strap locks stick out slightly farther than others so you can use them as conventional strap buttons in the event that you lose or forget your lock-equipped strap. I have Dunlop Dual Design strap locks on the basses I gig (including a Warmoth Deluxe 5 J) and have never had a problem. I love that they allow the strap to swivel as you move. I use Fender-branded "Grolsch washers" on another bass. They were tough to put on but do a good job. So long as you don't mind leaving your strap on, they are a pretty good (and cheap) option. I still believe the Dunlop Dual Design lock is best, but your criticism is completely reasonable.
Yes, yes, 1,000 times yes! Couldn't agree more about the elegance, simplicity, and functionality of the oversized strap button. They look good, too! You nailed it, Aaron!
I'd been using the Jim Dunlop Straplocks for 25 years, never a problem.
As an engineer....I live by what you stated in the first minute....i strive for elegance. Keep these vids coming!
You are definitely not full of it. Many beginners should watch this video instead of watching guitar reviews. So in depth and thoughtful. And I use schaller s locks on my les paul, but I'm now considering getting the oversized strap buttons on my acoustic. Thanks for the video!
Warmoth needs to make T-shirts of the YT channel avatar. Love the turtle with the orange guitar!
I'd buy one 👍
Agree on most accounts. I use Dimarzio, Dunlop, Schaller and Grolsch. Mostly whatever came on the guitar. I like the Dimarzio ones but hate the plastic clip bashing up the guitar. The Schallers are nice, but squeaky and I found that the part that attaches to the strap loosens over time, unless you really squeeze it (deforming your strap). It always rotates on me. I also don’t think the extra security is even needed. So by default my favorites are Dunlop. You can get them with buttons that also can be used with a normal strap.
Are you talking about the new quiet Schaller S Lock design or the previous one?
I've been using the Dunlap strap locks for years....never had an issue, but excellent, well thought out comparisons....thanks!!
A latecomer here. I just saw this video about a week ago. Ordered one set of the oversized strap buttons, just to see if they were everything you said they were. Yes! They are! Within a 1/2 hour of trying these on my "go-to" Strat, I ordered another five sets for my other electric guitars. These are just what I hoped they would be: Big enough to keep the strap on without fail, easy enough to remove the strap when I want, and no more locks to get loose or rubber washers to fall off. Thanks! You've made me a fan and I'll be checking out your other vids over time.
Nice! I would never lie to you about something as important as strap buttons! :)
I still love my Dunlops! If you forget your strap, any strap will still work with those buttons. Never had them fail nor heard of them failing. Also, if the way they stick out bothers you the button can be sunk into the body for a flush fit and the strap doesn’t stick out so far
I thought that design was nice to easily loop the cable through too. Never had an issue with mine.
@@Scott__C yes I agree. I like it for that reason too.
Schaller strap locks on my electrics since mid-90’s. Love them, and when I was gigging with multiple guitars - essential for quick change. Thanks a million for presenting the redesign !!!! I’m going to pick those up now. Love this channel, dude your the perfect spokesperson.
Just to say thanks to sales department. These guys kindly took quick action on my request. I appreciate your work an customer service, even with a small thing like a strap button. Thanks again!
To be honest - I've used the Dunlop strap locks for 10 years on 4 of my guitars (plenty of gigging) - they've never even once looked anywhere near like failing...
I've never had a Dunlop fail me and they're on every bass in my collection (30 total). The 1" offset you mention is a plus! It allows neck heavy basses to have a more forward anchor & fulcrum point which helps tremendously. Also, at the rear of the bass, it allows room for the cable to be looped over without constantly rubbing the bass finish. And, I can snap any strap I own to any bass in a matter of seconds... no wrestling to get the strap over a button everrrr.
Interesting....I can see your point on the 1" offset helping with neck-heavy basses. Thanks for that little nugget of knowledge!
Warmoth Guitar Products my pleasure! I've used it several times. It especially helps on my US First Act Delgado. It's shaped like a Gibson RD.
Definitely agree with this! I've been using Dunlop for years and they are on all of my basses (13, so far). I had a Rickenbacker that came standard with Schallers and I honestly hated them. They're very secure when attached, but the removal process was always awkward for me.
The beauty of some sane and entertaining OCD 🤟🏻
I love the dunlops. The thing I like more is to change the screw to a better, very strong stainless screw that's a little thicker and longer. I like that the strap stays off the bodies, particularly on a collection of unorthodox, pointy guitars. I like that they keep the strap from chafing up the horns and body. Here's the from getting caught on the ends. And to be able to put all the screws and buttons in the guitars, and just have one strap that clickclicks to them all if I want is great. Or 2.
I don't see the springs EVER failing. I've used them for decades now. Never had a spring fail, or a clip come out.
You nail it down 100% ,coming from a mechanical perspectives ,building cars 🚗, and starting my music 🎶journey, I picked the schaller's,thanks very much for the Gibson review lol 😆😄, my friend just replaced his with the schaller's locking 🔒😀😆his Gibson thanked him immediately 😀
From my shooting experience, the push button locking systems are my favorite.
Dunlop flush mounts are my favorite. The flush mount puts the lock close to the guitar.
Push it in, listen for the click, pull to double check.
Between the dunlop and rifle slings, I have never had any failures across multiple units, and decade of use.
And if you want seriously overbuilt, install rifle sling mounts.
Interesting. I didn't realize rifle slings also used mechanical strap locks. I guess it makes sense!
This was way more informative than I thought it was going to be :D
Dunlop IS an oversized strap button with a strap lock built in as well. Also Dunlop makes x3 different buttons that accept their lock system one being a flush mount and it’s based on an aviation cargo restraint design so... Dunlop for the win
I have used the Dunlop strap locks since the early eighties. Never had a failure. I have played in bar bands and wedding bands all those years. I have a different strap for each guitar and it goes in the case with the guitar.
I've tried several varieties, and you're absolutely right about the non-round ones always managing to unscrew themselves. I finally settled on the Schaller S-Locks about a year ago and haven't looked back; I like that unlike the DiMarzio straplocks, even if you forget your strap, you can still use any strap with them, they just won't lock. And, they're nice and quiet.
I love the DiMarzio ClipLock. They’re pretty cheap, too, so you can buy multiples.
Grolsch is a dutch beer, it's even on the bottle
Dank u :']
Doohhhh.....I mispoke. Now I shall have to hear about it forever. I suppose I deserve it.
@@warmoth Pretty good beer! lol go buy some... haha
@@warmoth You can always drink the pain away, with a cold Grolsch :']
@@GoudVis56667 And get two strap locks thrown in for free!!!! :)
We need more guitar channels like this one. So much of what makes a guitar work for you are these fine details that have so much to do with feel, things you don’t realize until you’re living with a guitar on a day to day basis. Also, the Gretsch straplock is an interesting solution as well.
Splendid - I agree fully with your judgements - I have written down "oversized strap buttons" ... couldn't believe Gibsons was so cheezy. Once upon a time I had their ES 355 TDC semi-acousticand those were the days of lovely Italian leather straps. Not any more eh? I don't play out now I just fool around at home - but I do think I should improve my guitar strap. Thanks for showing everything suscinctly and directly in close-ups.
Terrific. An oversized top flat head is just the thing. Many thanks.
I use dimarzio clip locks, but with the guitars original strap button at the front of the screw! Never ever had to use the button, and some of these clip locks have endured thousands of gigs and rehearsals! Gigging professionally since '88
Great advice. Such a simple solution using the oversized buttons. Nice. Never like the bulky strap locks. Cheers.
My old Dean ML has strap buttons that are just like those "oversized" ones you showed last that it came with by default! They're a bit bigger than the buttons on my other guitars and mushroom shaped just like that (rounded outside, flat inside). I've always wondered why they aren't all like that, and didn't realize for a long time that most other buttons aren't like that! It's a far superior design.
Schaller user here. Love them, still have older design on my guitars. Yes, they were kind of noisy, although it never really bothered me because the noise is easily drown out by the amp, but it's sure a bit noisy when you just pickup a guitar and play unplugged(let alone using them on an acoustic). However, the biggest issue they had (which they also fixed with the new design) was the nut on the straps getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nuts to prevent them from getting loose. No need for such "fix" anymore with the new ones. That being said, with any strap button, you still need to check from time to time if it hasn't came loose from the guitar.
The big advantage of a strap lock mechanism is the ease of taking the strap off and on, for when you want to switch straps or using the same strap of different guitar (personally, I have one strap for every guitar, especially since my guitars has different shapes and sizes, requiring different length adjustments), and most importantly, to store the guitar in its molded hard case, which usually don't have much room to leave the strap on. An oversized strap button is simple and works, but it's an hassle to remove the strap, and obviously, the strap holes tend to get bigger and bigger the more you remove and put it back on, making it less and less effective.
I wasn't interested when I saw the new video title but god damn, the revised thumbnail is so freaking radical that I had to click. Good job.
LOL....thanks for the awesome feedback. Yesterday I was like "not many clicks....I wonder if I would get more if I did a really kick-ass thumbnail."
Aaron, I have only been watching your Warmoth videos for a week or two but what really strikes me is your honesty and down to earth delivery. Considering RUclips has become a big series of advertisements, where everything people talk about is 'great', it is refreshing to hear your honest opinions - even where you feel that there are some better options than the stock Warmoth products. This actually makes me MORE likely to buy from Warmoth and I look forward to the day I can start a build with an order from you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, as it has become one of my favourite channels.
Thanks Tony!
Me and a buddy walked into a guitar store about 15 to 20 years ago. the guys at the store knew me pretty good so there was never any problem walking in there and playing any instrument and any amp, so the guitar of the day was a Peavey Wolfgang. retailed around 5000 to 6000, had a 10 top carved quilt top dyed purple with mahogany body and maple neck. sweet guitar, and into a 5150 amp. was ready to rock, this particular model had schaller locks. borrowed a strap from the guys at the store. when suddenly the strap locks came unscrewed and face 1st the guitar smashed into the concrete floor. totally wrecked. Appologized for the incident they took responsibility , I will never ever use schaller strap locks... Didn't even get a chance to strum a chord or wank a guitar lick.. lol
"Suddenly" the strap locks came unscrewed? That sounds unlikely.
I've never used a strap thing out a guitar at a music store always sat down.....
My Yamaha the lightweight, quirky RGX A2, has oversized strap buttons. They exude confidence. I also have Dunlop Strap Locks -- 25+ years -- with no issues, although I don't gig.
To each their own. I have had great results with standard buttons + washers, and my Schaller strap lock (old design) has come apart multiple times.
I'm just going to play sitting down from now on.
I used to use S-locks until one of the shafts broke off and it was a pain in the ass it get off. I moved on to Dunlop :)
I feel so vindicated!
I was like 19 or 20 years old.
(45 now)
Had just bought a Les Paul classic Gold Top.
Brought it to band practice and let my singer play it.
It immediately fell off those horrible strap buttons! Landed right on the headstock.
Everyone in the room froze, stopped and stared.
We were kids and this was a real Les Paul! Highly coveted.
Everyone knew it was a big day!
It now has cracks down the neck at the feet board.
I brought it to my local wizard and had it glued. It's never been an issue in 20 years.
But to see my brand new Gold top land head first after owning it for only a few hours.
It was a bad bad day.
Schallers all day every day.
I have to disagree about Dunlop: it is true that in theory "there is nothing supporting your guitar if it fails", but in reality they NEVER failed in a million years. The best ones for me.
But the most beautiful and elegant of all was the "swallow tail" strap lock Ibamez used on the old Musician basses.
Very informative video, Aaron. I like your opinionated but well-reasoned attitude. I need to replace some crusty old strap buttons and this info helps.
LOVE this... interestingly I'd moved away from the Dunlop straploks to the older Schallers and didn't know there was an update! That said... I love the simplicity and universality of the oversize strap button. You may have convinced me. And... great job acknowledging your biases while defending - quite intelligently - your opinion. There are many who might learn from that approach to what could become an otherwise cantankerous debate. Great job! Ah, decisions decisions...
Hallelujah, Aaron! Been touting these for years. But they were somewhat hard to find. Really glad Warmoth now sells them. Now I need another set for for ES-339. :-)
But dude, that last one is not stock and will thus affect tone! Haha! Kidding! I LOVE this video, especially your first point about design.
he is taking about what he likes and what he don't, he's not talking about what realy works, I've use many different strap locks for the past 25 years and the dunlop's are the only ones that never fail
Really helpful. I was looking for one that does not protrude so much from the guitar, yet is secure. I learned of the oversized from your vid. Thank you!.
This is a great video; the details on all of the strap button options are spot-on! After decades of playing guitar and bass along with years of guitar tech work, my conclusions are pretty closely aligned to your video breakdown.
Aaron, I do like the oversized mushroom strap buttons. I had a couple that came on a Hamer Sunburst. But they are my number two pick. My number one pick is the Dunlop Straplok. I love them and put them on every guitar. Elegant design. Really work. And because of the way the strap buttons are designed, if you leave your strap at home, you can still use them with another strap in a pinch. The way they stand off of the guitar doesn't bother me at all.
I found this subject way more interesting than I was expecting! I also prefer and exclusively use Schallers -for all the reasons discussed here. Thanks Aaron!
So incredible! The Strap buttons on my RG655 are of the almost same shape as the No.1. I once bought two pairs of Schaller S-Lock, one to replace the original simple buttons on my Performer Strat, and one for the RG655 which was yet on the way shipping to me. But after it came to my hand, I found these buttons so exquisitely crafted, that I finally give up the idea of replacing them. Now Aaron's opinion approved that it was such a wise choice!
Aaron, having a science background, I support your conclusion that the oversized strap button with the flat back and slightly rounded crown is the best choice! Its basic physics and geometry, the flat back keeps the strap from migrating over the edge of the larger diameter button, and the rounded crown allows for easy strap installation. The PRS button design was almost there, but they forgot to include a spacer where the shaft of the button meets the guitar. I would shy away from the DiMarzio clip locks because those plastic clips tend to wear out over time (just like on suitcases). I have tried the washers and they tend to fly away (just pop off the strap button). Sold, I will be purchasing extra-large strap buttons from Warmoth.
Thanks Aaron. Now I know what to use on my new build.
I think one piece of your logic has a fatal flaw here. Maybe it's the lack of tea in this video. Dunlop straplocks have the added bonus of being oversized if you don't have a strap with the lock ends on them. With the Schaller locks, you have this "worse than Gibson buttons" tiny strap button if you don't have your strap with the lock ends on it. As per your own example, if you forget your strap, at least the Dunlop works well with any strap.
To be clear, I used Schaller locks for a lot of years (because Warmoth), and I swapped over to Dunlop 8 years ago because someone stole my strap on the second gig of an 11 show jaunt up and down the coast. I had three different people loan me straps, and all of them tried to kill my Tele by totally not staying on to that tiny dumb button.
GC in Hollywood was out of stock of the Schaller locks when we got to town, and I made the shift to Dunlop. I've never had the locks fail me (and I guarantee I'm harder on strap buttons than most). I actually like having the strap a bit off the body, because I can loop the cord through the strap without wearing the finish.
I've had my blue Dimarzio strap lock since I bought it in 1991. It's been to Hell and back with me and looks like it but it still works. The Schallers look cool, though. I might get some of those for my other guitars. Thanks for the shootout.
I like that you do a Top 10 list, and start #10-7 by saying "I hate these"!
My personal favorite is Dunlop StrapLok. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying that I've used them on pretty heavy instruments since 1997, and have not had a single one fail on me yet. So for me reliability is one of the key selling points. And also looks. I only use the flush mount kind, so when the strap isn't on there, there's nothing sticking out from the instrument. The bass I bought in -97 came with them pre-installed, and I just fell in love with look, so I've installed them on every instrument I've gotten since (which are mostly Warmoth). It has the disadvantage that if I forget my strap, I can't use any strap that doesn't have straploks. On the other hand I get one strap per instrument, and just never take it off, so it's not a problem.
Cool! Good info. I've got a set of S Locks that I've yet to put on my LP.
I agree with your assessments, though I did use Dunlops for years on my old LP Custom. They were the first ones I'd ever seen and I had no complaints.
It's a good thing we don't know each other. We think way too much alike. 😂
I love the style of presentation on this channel. Very entertaining without being offensive to anyone. Btw I totally agree with the rundown. Oversized strap buttons on all my guitars too, albeit with DiMarzio clip locks fitted over them.
Thank you "a million times"!
I have the older Schaller's on some of mine and you're not kidding about the noise lol, I tend to go with the Dunlop's because I can get them in flush mount so they don't stick out a mile. (Super boned if I were to forget the strap tho) And I always have some of the rubber retainers in every case and bag, even for the ones that don't need them. Great content! Keep it up!
The creaking was why I got rid of the Schallers.
This is the most important Warmoth video to date. I’ll fight you over it
I have been using the oversized strap buttons and I love them! I wish I was able to order just one set and not four of five, but they are worth it to have around to use for a new guitar or to give to a family member or friend.
I'm really gonna sit here and watch a 14 minute video about strap buttons and eat toasted Cheez-Its, huh.
Anything for you, Aaron.
(Edit: I've been using the DiMarzio ClipLocks for over two year now and those are spectacular, and I'm pretty good about keeping the strap attached or in the guitar case so I'm not worried about losing or forgetting it)
Glad to know my DiMarzio strap locks/clips choice are good. I'm not worried about forgetting my strap because I never take it off. I bought my strap lock when I was trying to get my band started and now I don't use anything else they just feel sturdy and reliable never ever worry about my instrument falling ever!
This was a shockingly honest, humorous, and well informed video about strap buttons. Thank you. I mean, who really wants their 3k guitar to slip away from your strap and go crashing to the ground?
Thanks for not overlooking the little things like strap buttons. It's this kind of attention to detail that I really appreciate.
I've been using S-locks, because I couldn't find anything that I liked that might be "better" in my opinion. I dislike the standard buttons for the same reason you mentioned, but don't honestly care for strap locks. I'm going to buy a couple of sets of the oversize buttons and give them a shot. Who knows; maybe I'll end up doing a full-fleet replacement!
The Malmsteen Strat comes with a recessed Dunlop Strap Lock pre installed. Strap just pops in, flush to the guitar. Very cool. Must be a slightly precarious install at the factory though.
I see Yngwie using the DiMarzio clip lock strap a lot. Interesting that his sig model comes with the recessed Dunlops!
@@warmoth I’m a fan boy. Since he moved to Seymour Duncan for his pickups (around 2011) he changed all his guitars from Clip Locks to the recessed Dunlop. I have one of each. I’ll be putting the S-locks on any future guitars though. Perfect hybrid, without the clickity clack.
I've been using Schaller's Since the '80's, but health has made it hard to pull the grips. Making the oversized buttons look VERY good! Nice presentation, thanks!
Amazing breakdown well explained logic
Wonderful review, full of common sense. Many thanks!
One thing about the Schallers is that any strap will hang on the stud in a pinch if you forget the strap with the locks.
I had a Dunlop come apart once, decades ago. Switched to Schallers and never looked back. It's teh first thing I order when I get a new electric guitar.
I've always liked how my Ibanez guitars all came with those oversized strap buttons but I ended up swapping them out for Dimarzio cliplocks. Been using them for 25+ years and never had an issue. I keep the straps in their respective cases so it's not like I'll ever forget them.
Most disconnects come during the first moments of putting your guitar on and also how you put the guitar (and strap) down. I use the large buttons but also mindfulness, presence and a mandatory good grip on the guitar until a visual check is completed goes a long way. Professional habits yield professional results. Every amusement park has that guy that checks your belt so accidents can be avoided, they guard their money, you guard yours.
I really like Loxx strap locks. Low profile and super secure. Only downside is the button on the guitar itself, it’ll only work with a strap with a Loxx strap lock on it
I have mushroom buttons on my LP that are shaped like oversized buttons, but aren't oversized. I find they're a good balance of not coming off accidentally and not being hard to take off intentionally.
I do use a washer on my Tele with standard buttons, just on the top one. Once the screw reaches a certain looseness, the button stops turning it and just spins around.
I had the old Schaller and nearly dropped my guitar, because the securing screw nut loosened itself. Looks like the new ones have a small locking screw inside of it, which solves this problem - but quite complicated. I switched to using Earnie Ball Strap Locks which have the locking nut on the inside which means the strap still holds even if it should loosen.
thanks I just got my first Gibson les paul standard and I'm looking for a good straplock and I agree on your top 2 the redesign is what that lock needed I watched a video from 4 years ago and looks like they fixed the issue but I'll check more info on them👍🏻
Your top 3 have been my top 3 for a while, now! Keep on making great content, sir!
This guy..... I like this guy.
I agree 100% with you! My next Warmoth purchase will include the oversize strap buttons!
Just convinced me to get a set of black oversized for my contemporary strat! And I've never heard of grolsch before this, but I do quite like using the washer style strap blocks in a pinch. I got like 12 of them for 5 bucks and they're great for cheap guitars I don't want to modify, new guitars transitioning to a more stable strap solution, and I hand them out to my students. They certainly don't hold up to time or against something as robust as schaler, but they have their place
A video like this was way overdue.Thanks Aaron!
I made a couple of guitar straps out of the legs from my worn out jeans. So comfortable. And to attach them to the guitar I use a pair of chunky shoe laces tied to a regular strap button with a clove hitch, which is a self tightening knot. Solid. The strap is soft, so it folds nicely into the case with the guitar. I also have a couple of guitars I use shop bought straps with, and somehow I just don't feel as connected to the guitar.
I have been wanting to upgrade my strap locks for months now! My straps are “learning” how to slip off my guitar more and more lately and this video was perfectly timed for me. Thanks man!
New to channel, but liked and subscribed!!
Love it! Thank you. I'm a huge fan of Dunlop. Used them exclusively since the 1980's with zero issues. I started with Schaller but they had a square corner on the strap part that cuts through the strap leather in time. I've also had the strap portion come unscrewed repeatedly. All that ended when I switched to Dunlop. Perhaps the new ones solve these issues?
When I bought my Gretsch in '18 I didn't play it on stage (Sunday morning church band) until I put Schallers on it. In the few and far between times I get a new guitar I won't play it anywhere until I put some kind of locking system on the strap. I've never dropped a guitar due to a strap button but I've them slip out of my hands several times.
I was rooting for the Schallers as you went through the list ngl lmao
I love them, so clever
Hi Aaron: I agree with your classification. I personnally use oversized strap buttons and the Schaller locking model. The advantage of the Schaller is that you can have one strap only, equipped with the locking system and use it on all your guitars fitted with the Schaller strap buttons... Also - particularly for heavy guitars - they are providing a longer/larger screw which can help consolidating the grip ! No use of having a good strap button/locking button, if the whole system will just jump out because of a poor/small screw holding it into the guitar...
Funny, I've been googling this very thing since I bought a les paul 2 weeks ago. Perfect timing.
I just got a new 2022 Les Paul Standard 50s and don't know what to do. Really don't want to modify this beautiful instrument at all. I've bought a few of these solutions. I'm leaning toward the Schaller S-Locks, but don't want to even modify the guitar that much. The journey for knowledge continues. Ugh.
@@dogbreath203 I ended up just getting the oversized strap buttons. After installing those it finally felt secure to play standing up. I would definitely go that route.
@@therangersinger I'm going to always keep it in the case, so I need a strap I can take off and put on easily.
I just noticed the Ranger patch. My brother was Ranger 101st and '66 West Point Graduate. Thank you Ranger Singer!
@@dogbreath203 much appreciated Sir.
Strap button and metal spacer. This is life.