For the PRS, why not a washer or spacer? I like the T-shape, just watch them. The standard Fender I tie a piece of rawhide string onto it, works great. My fave. Hate the Shallers. I use mostly #10, it's a Dunlop without the straplock.
Yes, yes, 1,000 times yes! Couldn't agree more about the elegance, simplicity, and functionality of the oversized strap button. They look good, too! You nailed it, Aaron!
The Dunlop Dual Design strap locks stick out slightly farther than others so you can use them as conventional strap buttons in the event that you lose or forget your lock-equipped strap. I have Dunlop Dual Design strap locks on the basses I gig (including a Warmoth Deluxe 5 J) and have never had a problem. I love that they allow the strap to swivel as you move. I use Fender-branded "Grolsch washers" on another bass. They were tough to put on but do a good job. So long as you don't mind leaving your strap on, they are a pretty good (and cheap) option. I still believe the Dunlop Dual Design lock is best, but your criticism is completely reasonable.
I have had the same Dunlop on my strap for 15+ years. Love it, but good point about the spring...might be time to retire and replace, probably with another Dunlop...I love em!
A latecomer here. I just saw this video about a week ago. Ordered one set of the oversized strap buttons, just to see if they were everything you said they were. Yes! They are! Within a 1/2 hour of trying these on my "go-to" Strat, I ordered another five sets for my other electric guitars. These are just what I hoped they would be: Big enough to keep the strap on without fail, easy enough to remove the strap when I want, and no more locks to get loose or rubber washers to fall off. Thanks! You've made me a fan and I'll be checking out your other vids over time.
Just to say thanks to sales department. These guys kindly took quick action on my request. I appreciate your work an customer service, even with a small thing like a strap button. Thanks again!
Schaller strap locks on my electrics since mid-90’s. Love them, and when I was gigging with multiple guitars - essential for quick change. Thanks a million for presenting the redesign !!!! I’m going to pick those up now. Love this channel, dude your the perfect spokesperson.
You are definitely not full of it. Many beginners should watch this video instead of watching guitar reviews. So in depth and thoughtful. And I use schaller s locks on my les paul, but I'm now considering getting the oversized strap buttons on my acoustic. Thanks for the video!
I don't mind the Dunlops at all. I've been using them since the 80s and never dropped a guitar. I didn't know about the 'oversized' ones though so I might try some out. Thanks!
Same. Convenience, and the added benefit of extending the horn fulcrum point, for neck heavy instruments, will keep me a diehard user on every bass I buy and build.
The dunlop dual-loks have the oversize button but will still fit the other part of a strap-lok. You can buy buttons seperately. I use the dual-loks myself. I don't share his concern about failure.
Little known fact the Dunlops locking mechanism is a copy of the USMCs sniper rifles sling mounts .Depending on accessories they can weigh 20 lbs in the field. Good enough for the Corp good enough for me . Never had a failure.
I love the dunlops. The thing I like more is to change the screw to a better, very strong stainless screw that's a little thicker and longer. I like that the strap stays off the bodies, particularly on a collection of unorthodox, pointy guitars. I like that they keep the strap from chafing up the horns and body. Here's the from getting caught on the ends. And to be able to put all the screws and buttons in the guitars, and just have one strap that clickclicks to them all if I want is great. Or 2. I don't see the springs EVER failing. I've used them for decades now. Never had a spring fail, or a clip come out.
Aaron, I have only been watching your Warmoth videos for a week or two but what really strikes me is your honesty and down to earth delivery. Considering RUclips has become a big series of advertisements, where everything people talk about is 'great', it is refreshing to hear your honest opinions - even where you feel that there are some better options than the stock Warmoth products. This actually makes me MORE likely to buy from Warmoth and I look forward to the day I can start a build with an order from you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, as it has become one of my favourite channels.
This is a great video; the details on all of the strap button options are spot-on! After decades of playing guitar and bass along with years of guitar tech work, my conclusions are pretty closely aligned to your video breakdown.
Glad to know my DiMarzio strap locks/clips choice are good. I'm not worried about forgetting my strap because I never take it off. I bought my strap lock when I was trying to get my band started and now I don't use anything else they just feel sturdy and reliable never ever worry about my instrument falling ever!
We need more guitar channels like this one. So much of what makes a guitar work for you are these fine details that have so much to do with feel, things you don’t realize until you’re living with a guitar on a day to day basis. Also, the Gretsch straplock is an interesting solution as well.
Agree on most accounts. I use Dimarzio, Dunlop, Schaller and Grolsch. Mostly whatever came on the guitar. I like the Dimarzio ones but hate the plastic clip bashing up the guitar. The Schallers are nice, but squeaky and I found that the part that attaches to the strap loosens over time, unless you really squeeze it (deforming your strap). It always rotates on me. I also don’t think the extra security is even needed. So by default my favorites are Dunlop. You can get them with buttons that also can be used with a normal strap.
Really helpful. I was looking for one that does not protrude so much from the guitar, yet is secure. I learned of the oversized from your vid. Thank you!.
I have used the Dunlop strap locks since the early eighties. Never had a failure. I have played in bar bands and wedding bands all those years. I have a different strap for each guitar and it goes in the case with the guitar.
My Yamaha the lightweight, quirky RGX A2, has oversized strap buttons. They exude confidence. I also have Dunlop Strap Locks -- 25+ years -- with no issues, although I don't gig.
Hallelujah, Aaron! Been touting these for years. But they were somewhat hard to find. Really glad Warmoth now sells them. Now I need another set for for ES-339. :-)
I still love my Dunlops! If you forget your strap, any strap will still work with those buttons. Never had them fail nor heard of them failing. Also, if the way they stick out bothers you the button can be sunk into the body for a flush fit and the strap doesn’t stick out so far
Very informative video, Aaron. I like your opinionated but well-reasoned attitude. I need to replace some crusty old strap buttons and this info helps.
I've tried several varieties, and you're absolutely right about the non-round ones always managing to unscrew themselves. I finally settled on the Schaller S-Locks about a year ago and haven't looked back; I like that unlike the DiMarzio straplocks, even if you forget your strap, you can still use any strap with them, they just won't lock. And, they're nice and quiet.
I have been wanting to upgrade my strap locks for months now! My straps are “learning” how to slip off my guitar more and more lately and this video was perfectly timed for me. Thanks man! New to channel, but liked and subscribed!!
From my shooting experience, the push button locking systems are my favorite. Dunlop flush mounts are my favorite. The flush mount puts the lock close to the guitar. Push it in, listen for the click, pull to double check. Between the dunlop and rifle slings, I have never had any failures across multiple units, and decade of use. And if you want seriously overbuilt, install rifle sling mounts.
Dunlop IS an oversized strap button with a strap lock built in as well. Also Dunlop makes x3 different buttons that accept their lock system one being a flush mount and it’s based on an aviation cargo restraint design so... Dunlop for the win
I've never had a Dunlop fail me and they're on every bass in my collection (30 total). The 1" offset you mention is a plus! It allows neck heavy basses to have a more forward anchor & fulcrum point which helps tremendously. Also, at the rear of the bass, it allows room for the cable to be looped over without constantly rubbing the bass finish. And, I can snap any strap I own to any bass in a matter of seconds... no wrestling to get the strap over a button everrrr.
Definitely agree with this! I've been using Dunlop for years and they are on all of my basses (13, so far). I had a Rickenbacker that came standard with Schallers and I honestly hated them. They're very secure when attached, but the removal process was always awkward for me.
The Malmsteen Strat comes with a recessed Dunlop Strap Lock pre installed. Strap just pops in, flush to the guitar. Very cool. Must be a slightly precarious install at the factory though.
@@warmoth I’m a fan boy. Since he moved to Seymour Duncan for his pickups (around 2011) he changed all his guitars from Clip Locks to the recessed Dunlop. I have one of each. I’ll be putting the S-locks on any future guitars though. Perfect hybrid, without the clickity clack.
Great video, I really appreciate the candid information, especially about your own products. I was recommended Ernie ball washers when I started playing, and sure enough they turned my button around and stripped it out! Figured it was bad design, and excess friction, good to have my suspicions confirmed lol. Just ordered some oversized buttons from you guys, super excited to try them out :) Thanks for saving me from the same thing possibly happening again. Definitely earned a subscriber with this one, cheers!
I love the style of presentation on this channel. Very entertaining without being offensive to anyone. Btw I totally agree with the rundown. Oversized strap buttons on all my guitars too, albeit with DiMarzio clip locks fitted over them.
LOVE this... interestingly I'd moved away from the Dunlop straploks to the older Schallers and didn't know there was an update! That said... I love the simplicity and universality of the oversize strap button. You may have convinced me. And... great job acknowledging your biases while defending - quite intelligently - your opinion. There are many who might learn from that approach to what could become an otherwise cantankerous debate. Great job! Ah, decisions decisions...
So incredible! The Strap buttons on my RG655 are of the almost same shape as the No.1. I once bought two pairs of Schaller S-Lock, one to replace the original simple buttons on my Performer Strat, and one for the RG655 which was yet on the way shipping to me. But after it came to my hand, I found these buttons so exquisitely crafted, that I finally give up the idea of replacing them. Now Aaron's opinion approved that it was such a wise choice!
thanks I just got my first Gibson les paul standard and I'm looking for a good straplock and I agree on your top 2 the redesign is what that lock needed I watched a video from 4 years ago and looks like they fixed the issue but I'll check more info on them👍🏻
Schaller user here. Love them, still have older design on my guitars. Yes, they were kind of noisy, although it never really bothered me because the noise is easily drown out by the amp, but it's sure a bit noisy when you just pickup a guitar and play unplugged(let alone using them on an acoustic). However, the biggest issue they had (which they also fixed with the new design) was the nut on the straps getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nuts to prevent them from getting loose. No need for such "fix" anymore with the new ones. That being said, with any strap button, you still need to check from time to time if it hasn't came loose from the guitar. The big advantage of a strap lock mechanism is the ease of taking the strap off and on, for when you want to switch straps or using the same strap of different guitar (personally, I have one strap for every guitar, especially since my guitars has different shapes and sizes, requiring different length adjustments), and most importantly, to store the guitar in its molded hard case, which usually don't have much room to leave the strap on. An oversized strap button is simple and works, but it's an hassle to remove the strap, and obviously, the strap holes tend to get bigger and bigger the more you remove and put it back on, making it less and less effective.
I found this subject way more interesting than I was expecting! I also prefer and exclusively use Schallers -for all the reasons discussed here. Thanks Aaron!
To be honest - I've used the Dunlop strap locks for 10 years on 4 of my guitars (plenty of gigging) - they've never even once looked anywhere near like failing...
Splendid - I agree fully with your judgements - I have written down "oversized strap buttons" ... couldn't believe Gibsons was so cheezy. Once upon a time I had their ES 355 TDC semi-acousticand those were the days of lovely Italian leather straps. Not any more eh? I don't play out now I just fool around at home - but I do think I should improve my guitar strap. Thanks for showing everything suscinctly and directly in close-ups. Terrific. An oversized top flat head is just the thing. Many thanks.
This was a shockingly honest, humorous, and well informed video about strap buttons. Thank you. I mean, who really wants their 3k guitar to slip away from your strap and go crashing to the ground?
I have the older Schaller's on some of mine and you're not kidding about the noise lol, I tend to go with the Dunlop's because I can get them in flush mount so they don't stick out a mile. (Super boned if I were to forget the strap tho) And I always have some of the rubber retainers in every case and bag, even for the ones that don't need them. Great content! Keep it up!
I stumbled across this channel while looking for a "surf green vs. seafoam green" comparison, and I LOVE ITTTTTT Aaron, you're such a funny, amiable guy, explaining stuff so clearly and enjoyably; who do I see about getting you a raise?
Love it! Thank you. I'm a huge fan of Dunlop. Used them exclusively since the 1980's with zero issues. I started with Schaller but they had a square corner on the strap part that cuts through the strap leather in time. I've also had the strap portion come unscrewed repeatedly. All that ended when I switched to Dunlop. Perhaps the new ones solve these issues?
You nail it down 100% ,coming from a mechanical perspectives ,building cars 🚗, and starting my music 🎶journey, I picked the schaller's,thanks very much for the Gibson review lol 😆😄, my friend just replaced his with the schaller's locking 🔒😀😆his Gibson thanked him immediately 😀
I use dimarzio clip locks, but with the guitars original strap button at the front of the screw! Never ever had to use the button, and some of these clip locks have endured thousands of gigs and rehearsals! Gigging professionally since '88
Aaron, having a science background, I support your conclusion that the oversized strap button with the flat back and slightly rounded crown is the best choice! Its basic physics and geometry, the flat back keeps the strap from migrating over the edge of the larger diameter button, and the rounded crown allows for easy strap installation. The PRS button design was almost there, but they forgot to include a spacer where the shaft of the button meets the guitar. I would shy away from the DiMarzio clip locks because those plastic clips tend to wear out over time (just like on suitcases). I have tried the washers and they tend to fly away (just pop off the strap button). Sold, I will be purchasing extra-large strap buttons from Warmoth.
he is taking about what he likes and what he don't, he's not talking about what realy works, I've use many different strap locks for the past 25 years and the dunlop's are the only ones that never fail
I've had my blue Dimarzio strap lock since I bought it in 1991. It's been to Hell and back with me and looks like it but it still works. The Schallers look cool, though. I might get some of those for my other guitars. Thanks for the shootout.
I've always liked how my Ibanez guitars all came with those oversized strap buttons but I ended up swapping them out for Dimarzio cliplocks. Been using them for 25+ years and never had an issue. I keep the straps in their respective cases so it's not like I'll ever forget them.
I just got a new 2022 Les Paul Standard 50s and don't know what to do. Really don't want to modify this beautiful instrument at all. I've bought a few of these solutions. I'm leaning toward the Schaller S-Locks, but don't want to even modify the guitar that much. The journey for knowledge continues. Ugh.
@@dogbreath203 I ended up just getting the oversized strap buttons. After installing those it finally felt secure to play standing up. I would definitely go that route.
My old Dean ML has strap buttons that are just like those "oversized" ones you showed last that it came with by default! They're a bit bigger than the buttons on my other guitars and mushroom shaped just like that (rounded outside, flat inside). I've always wondered why they aren't all like that, and didn't realize for a long time that most other buttons aren't like that! It's a far superior design.
I have been using a steel washer between the strap and a standard button. Attaching and detaching the strap does require screwing off the button but the washer lets the strap spin free of the button.
I've been using Schaller's Since the '80's, but health has made it hard to pull the grips. Making the oversized buttons look VERY good! Nice presentation, thanks!
Cool! Good info. I've got a set of S Locks that I've yet to put on my LP. I agree with your assessments, though I did use Dunlops for years on my old LP Custom. They were the first ones I'd ever seen and I had no complaints. It's a good thing we don't know each other. We think way too much alike. 😂
I have been using the oversized strap buttons and I love them! I wish I was able to order just one set and not four of five, but they are worth it to have around to use for a new guitar or to give to a family member or friend.
Me and a buddy walked into a guitar store about 15 to 20 years ago. the guys at the store knew me pretty good so there was never any problem walking in there and playing any instrument and any amp, so the guitar of the day was a Peavey Wolfgang. retailed around 5000 to 6000, had a 10 top carved quilt top dyed purple with mahogany body and maple neck. sweet guitar, and into a 5150 amp. was ready to rock, this particular model had schaller locks. borrowed a strap from the guys at the store. when suddenly the strap locks came unscrewed and face 1st the guitar smashed into the concrete floor. totally wrecked. Appologized for the incident they took responsibility , I will never ever use schaller strap locks... Didn't even get a chance to strum a chord or wank a guitar lick.. lol
Thanks for not overlooking the little things like strap buttons. It's this kind of attention to detail that I really appreciate. I've been using S-locks, because I couldn't find anything that I liked that might be "better" in my opinion. I dislike the standard buttons for the same reason you mentioned, but don't honestly care for strap locks. I'm going to buy a couple of sets of the oversize buttons and give them a shot. Who knows; maybe I'll end up doing a full-fleet replacement!
Aaron, I do like the oversized mushroom strap buttons. I had a couple that came on a Hamer Sunburst. But they are my number two pick. My number one pick is the Dunlop Straplok. I love them and put them on every guitar. Elegant design. Really work. And because of the way the strap buttons are designed, if you leave your strap at home, you can still use them with another strap in a pinch. The way they stand off of the guitar doesn't bother me at all.
Great video, but I have to disagree with the Schaller vs Dunlop comparison. The strap sits just as far out with both types. Schaller's cup goes over the button and the strap is outside of that. Dunlop's pin goes in the button with the strap outside. Unless there is a washer thickness difference, they're the same. As far as the Schaller cup adding safety if the spring were to break... maybe in most cases. But I had Schallers that would spin on the strap and the cup never seemed to stay under the button, in fact, that's why I quit using them. That was early / mid 80's, maybe they fixed that. I do like the over sized button that you picked for number one (in theory, I haven't tried it). I'm going to try a set.
a 13 minute video about strap buttons? thats how you know this channel is legit
LOL. I did say right up front I was gonna geek out hard! Haha!!
So few people giving brutally honest opinions - even about gear they sell. Keep this up. Really like all the videos you do a lot. Thank you.
Keeping it real for my homies. :)
Feathered and lethal!!! :)
I watched a whole video on strap buttons. and I liked it.
I was just thinking the same thing. 😁
25 years of gigging and thousands of gigs with Dunlop Straplocks and never had an issue. Love the channel.
I bought a Gibson ES-35 in 1982 and I've been using the same Dunlop strap locks with the same leather strap this entire time.
Aaron: "...on the biggest, heaviest guitar there is."
Me: Eyes my acrylic Warlock.
LOL....I stand corrected!
@@warmoth to their benefit (or perhaps mine) BC Rich shipped it with oversized strap buttons.
LOL, shots fired at the Grolsch fan boys. They are totally like a cult on the forums.
For the PRS, why not a washer or spacer? I like the T-shape, just watch them. The standard Fender I tie a piece of rawhide string onto it, works great. My fave. Hate the Shallers. I use mostly #10, it's a Dunlop without the straplock.
Two beers for free with your purchase, bro. Two.
Nobody would mention those washers if they came with preparation H.
Love the beer but never tried the washer
Schaller locks. There is no other
Pfffft......planet waves for me. Full snoot mode.
But which sound the best? We need a side-by-side tone comparo!
on a guitar with Nitro or PU finish?
Yes, yes, 1,000 times yes! Couldn't agree more about the elegance, simplicity, and functionality of the oversized strap button. They look good, too! You nailed it, Aaron!
The Dunlop Dual Design strap locks stick out slightly farther than others so you can use them as conventional strap buttons in the event that you lose or forget your lock-equipped strap. I have Dunlop Dual Design strap locks on the basses I gig (including a Warmoth Deluxe 5 J) and have never had a problem. I love that they allow the strap to swivel as you move. I use Fender-branded "Grolsch washers" on another bass. They were tough to put on but do a good job. So long as you don't mind leaving your strap on, they are a pretty good (and cheap) option. I still believe the Dunlop Dual Design lock is best, but your criticism is completely reasonable.
I’ve been using Dunlop strap locks for 30 years and never had an issue.
25 years here. I used the Schallers first but got tired of tightening them all the time. Dunlop's are really the best there are.
20 years. They have that satisfaction in Clic that Schaller doesn't. Being use both for 20+ years, and never had an issue.
I have had the same Dunlop on my strap for 15+ years. Love it, but good point about the spring...might be time to retire and replace, probably with another Dunlop...I love em!
Springs have never given out. Can't find a negative at all with the Dunlop design.
Me too. 30 years of heavy use on my Yamaha and 10 on my Smith.
They never fail.
As an engineer....I live by what you stated in the first minute....i strive for elegance. Keep these vids coming!
A latecomer here. I just saw this video about a week ago. Ordered one set of the oversized strap buttons, just to see if they were everything you said they were. Yes! They are! Within a 1/2 hour of trying these on my "go-to" Strat, I ordered another five sets for my other electric guitars. These are just what I hoped they would be: Big enough to keep the strap on without fail, easy enough to remove the strap when I want, and no more locks to get loose or rubber washers to fall off. Thanks! You've made me a fan and I'll be checking out your other vids over time.
Nice! I would never lie to you about something as important as strap buttons! :)
Just to say thanks to sales department. These guys kindly took quick action on my request. I appreciate your work an customer service, even with a small thing like a strap button. Thanks again!
Schaller strap locks on my electrics since mid-90’s. Love them, and when I was gigging with multiple guitars - essential for quick change. Thanks a million for presenting the redesign !!!! I’m going to pick those up now. Love this channel, dude your the perfect spokesperson.
I've been using the Dunlap strap locks for years....never had an issue, but excellent, well thought out comparisons....thanks!!
This was way more informative than I thought it was going to be :D
I'd been using the Jim Dunlop Straplocks for 25 years, never a problem.
You are definitely not full of it. Many beginners should watch this video instead of watching guitar reviews. So in depth and thoughtful. And I use schaller s locks on my les paul, but I'm now considering getting the oversized strap buttons on my acoustic. Thanks for the video!
I don't mind the Dunlops at all. I've been using them since the 80s and never dropped a guitar. I didn't know about the 'oversized' ones though so I might try some out. Thanks!
Yep, since the 80's for me as well. I've NEVER had an issue, but I do clean and lube them annually.
@@Rico_G Me too. A tiny drop of 3-in-1 oil every year
Same. Convenience, and the added benefit of extending the horn fulcrum point, for neck heavy instruments, will keep me a diehard user on every bass I buy and build.
The dunlop dual-loks have the oversize button but will still fit the other part of a strap-lok. You can buy buttons seperately. I use the dual-loks myself. I don't share his concern about failure.
Little known fact the Dunlops locking mechanism is a copy of the USMCs sniper rifles sling mounts .Depending on accessories they can weigh 20 lbs in the field. Good enough for the Corp good enough for me . Never had a failure.
The beauty of some sane and entertaining OCD 🤟🏻
Warmoth needs to make T-shirts of the YT channel avatar. Love the turtle with the orange guitar!
I'd buy one 👍
I love the dunlops. The thing I like more is to change the screw to a better, very strong stainless screw that's a little thicker and longer. I like that the strap stays off the bodies, particularly on a collection of unorthodox, pointy guitars. I like that they keep the strap from chafing up the horns and body. Here's the from getting caught on the ends. And to be able to put all the screws and buttons in the guitars, and just have one strap that clickclicks to them all if I want is great. Or 2.
I don't see the springs EVER failing. I've used them for decades now. Never had a spring fail, or a clip come out.
I wasn't interested when I saw the new video title but god damn, the revised thumbnail is so freaking radical that I had to click. Good job.
LOL....thanks for the awesome feedback. Yesterday I was like "not many clicks....I wonder if I would get more if I did a really kick-ass thumbnail."
Aaron, I have only been watching your Warmoth videos for a week or two but what really strikes me is your honesty and down to earth delivery. Considering RUclips has become a big series of advertisements, where everything people talk about is 'great', it is refreshing to hear your honest opinions - even where you feel that there are some better options than the stock Warmoth products. This actually makes me MORE likely to buy from Warmoth and I look forward to the day I can start a build with an order from you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, as it has become one of my favourite channels.
Thanks Tony!
This is a great video; the details on all of the strap button options are spot-on! After decades of playing guitar and bass along with years of guitar tech work, my conclusions are pretty closely aligned to your video breakdown.
Glad to know my DiMarzio strap locks/clips choice are good. I'm not worried about forgetting my strap because I never take it off. I bought my strap lock when I was trying to get my band started and now I don't use anything else they just feel sturdy and reliable never ever worry about my instrument falling ever!
We need more guitar channels like this one. So much of what makes a guitar work for you are these fine details that have so much to do with feel, things you don’t realize until you’re living with a guitar on a day to day basis. Also, the Gretsch straplock is an interesting solution as well.
Agree on most accounts. I use Dimarzio, Dunlop, Schaller and Grolsch. Mostly whatever came on the guitar. I like the Dimarzio ones but hate the plastic clip bashing up the guitar. The Schallers are nice, but squeaky and I found that the part that attaches to the strap loosens over time, unless you really squeeze it (deforming your strap). It always rotates on me. I also don’t think the extra security is even needed. So by default my favorites are Dunlop. You can get them with buttons that also can be used with a normal strap.
Are you talking about the new quiet Schaller S Lock design or the previous one?
Really helpful. I was looking for one that does not protrude so much from the guitar, yet is secure. I learned of the oversized from your vid. Thank you!.
But dude, that last one is not stock and will thus affect tone! Haha! Kidding! I LOVE this video, especially your first point about design.
I have used the Dunlop strap locks since the early eighties. Never had a failure. I have played in bar bands and wedding bands all those years. I have a different strap for each guitar and it goes in the case with the guitar.
My Yamaha the lightweight, quirky RGX A2, has oversized strap buttons. They exude confidence. I also have Dunlop Strap Locks -- 25+ years -- with no issues, although I don't gig.
Your top 3 have been my top 3 for a while, now! Keep on making great content, sir!
Great advice. Such a simple solution using the oversized buttons. Nice. Never like the bulky strap locks. Cheers.
Hallelujah, Aaron! Been touting these for years. But they were somewhat hard to find. Really glad Warmoth now sells them. Now I need another set for for ES-339. :-)
I still love my Dunlops! If you forget your strap, any strap will still work with those buttons. Never had them fail nor heard of them failing. Also, if the way they stick out bothers you the button can be sunk into the body for a flush fit and the strap doesn’t stick out so far
I thought that design was nice to easily loop the cable through too. Never had an issue with mine.
@@Scott__C yes I agree. I like it for that reason too.
A video like this was way overdue.Thanks Aaron!
This is the most important Warmoth video to date. I’ll fight you over it
Very informative video, Aaron. I like your opinionated but well-reasoned attitude. I need to replace some crusty old strap buttons and this info helps.
I've tried several varieties, and you're absolutely right about the non-round ones always managing to unscrew themselves. I finally settled on the Schaller S-Locks about a year ago and haven't looked back; I like that unlike the DiMarzio straplocks, even if you forget your strap, you can still use any strap with them, they just won't lock. And, they're nice and quiet.
I have been wanting to upgrade my strap locks for months now! My straps are “learning” how to slip off my guitar more and more lately and this video was perfectly timed for me. Thanks man!
New to channel, but liked and subscribed!!
From my shooting experience, the push button locking systems are my favorite.
Dunlop flush mounts are my favorite. The flush mount puts the lock close to the guitar.
Push it in, listen for the click, pull to double check.
Between the dunlop and rifle slings, I have never had any failures across multiple units, and decade of use.
And if you want seriously overbuilt, install rifle sling mounts.
Interesting. I didn't realize rifle slings also used mechanical strap locks. I guess it makes sense!
Dunlop IS an oversized strap button with a strap lock built in as well. Also Dunlop makes x3 different buttons that accept their lock system one being a flush mount and it’s based on an aviation cargo restraint design so... Dunlop for the win
Thank you for another excellent vid!! Really great insights!!
I've never had a Dunlop fail me and they're on every bass in my collection (30 total). The 1" offset you mention is a plus! It allows neck heavy basses to have a more forward anchor & fulcrum point which helps tremendously. Also, at the rear of the bass, it allows room for the cable to be looped over without constantly rubbing the bass finish. And, I can snap any strap I own to any bass in a matter of seconds... no wrestling to get the strap over a button everrrr.
Interesting....I can see your point on the 1" offset helping with neck-heavy basses. Thanks for that little nugget of knowledge!
Warmoth Guitar Products my pleasure! I've used it several times. It especially helps on my US First Act Delgado. It's shaped like a Gibson RD.
Definitely agree with this! I've been using Dunlop for years and they are on all of my basses (13, so far). I had a Rickenbacker that came standard with Schallers and I honestly hated them. They're very secure when attached, but the removal process was always awkward for me.
The Malmsteen Strat comes with a recessed Dunlop Strap Lock pre installed. Strap just pops in, flush to the guitar. Very cool. Must be a slightly precarious install at the factory though.
I see Yngwie using the DiMarzio clip lock strap a lot. Interesting that his sig model comes with the recessed Dunlops!
@@warmoth I’m a fan boy. Since he moved to Seymour Duncan for his pickups (around 2011) he changed all his guitars from Clip Locks to the recessed Dunlop. I have one of each. I’ll be putting the S-locks on any future guitars though. Perfect hybrid, without the clickity clack.
you can tell he knows what he's talking about. great video.
Great video, I really appreciate the candid information, especially about your own products. I was recommended Ernie ball washers when I started playing, and sure enough they turned my button around and stripped it out! Figured it was bad design, and excess friction, good to have my suspicions confirmed lol. Just ordered some oversized buttons from you guys, super excited to try them out :) Thanks for saving me from the same thing possibly happening again. Definitely earned a subscriber with this one, cheers!
I love the style of presentation on this channel. Very entertaining without being offensive to anyone. Btw I totally agree with the rundown. Oversized strap buttons on all my guitars too, albeit with DiMarzio clip locks fitted over them.
Wonderful review, full of common sense. Many thanks!
Best shootout ever. Thank you!
LOVE this... interestingly I'd moved away from the Dunlop straploks to the older Schallers and didn't know there was an update! That said... I love the simplicity and universality of the oversize strap button. You may have convinced me. And... great job acknowledging your biases while defending - quite intelligently - your opinion. There are many who might learn from that approach to what could become an otherwise cantankerous debate. Great job! Ah, decisions decisions...
Thanks Aaron. Now I know what to use on my new build.
So incredible! The Strap buttons on my RG655 are of the almost same shape as the No.1. I once bought two pairs of Schaller S-Lock, one to replace the original simple buttons on my Performer Strat, and one for the RG655 which was yet on the way shipping to me. But after it came to my hand, I found these buttons so exquisitely crafted, that I finally give up the idea of replacing them. Now Aaron's opinion approved that it was such a wise choice!
thanks I just got my first Gibson les paul standard and I'm looking for a good straplock and I agree on your top 2 the redesign is what that lock needed I watched a video from 4 years ago and looks like they fixed the issue but I'll check more info on them👍🏻
Schaller user here. Love them, still have older design on my guitars. Yes, they were kind of noisy, although it never really bothered me because the noise is easily drown out by the amp, but it's sure a bit noisy when you just pickup a guitar and play unplugged(let alone using them on an acoustic). However, the biggest issue they had (which they also fixed with the new design) was the nut on the straps getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nuts to prevent them from getting loose. No need for such "fix" anymore with the new ones. That being said, with any strap button, you still need to check from time to time if it hasn't came loose from the guitar.
The big advantage of a strap lock mechanism is the ease of taking the strap off and on, for when you want to switch straps or using the same strap of different guitar (personally, I have one strap for every guitar, especially since my guitars has different shapes and sizes, requiring different length adjustments), and most importantly, to store the guitar in its molded hard case, which usually don't have much room to leave the strap on. An oversized strap button is simple and works, but it's an hassle to remove the strap, and obviously, the strap holes tend to get bigger and bigger the more you remove and put it back on, making it less and less effective.
I agree 100% with you! My next Warmoth purchase will include the oversize strap buttons!
I found this subject way more interesting than I was expecting! I also prefer and exclusively use Schallers -for all the reasons discussed here. Thanks Aaron!
To be honest - I've used the Dunlop strap locks for 10 years on 4 of my guitars (plenty of gigging) - they've never even once looked anywhere near like failing...
Splendid - I agree fully with your judgements - I have written down "oversized strap buttons" ... couldn't believe Gibsons was so cheezy. Once upon a time I had their ES 355 TDC semi-acousticand those were the days of lovely Italian leather straps. Not any more eh? I don't play out now I just fool around at home - but I do think I should improve my guitar strap. Thanks for showing everything suscinctly and directly in close-ups.
Terrific. An oversized top flat head is just the thing. Many thanks.
Schallers all day every day.
This was a shockingly honest, humorous, and well informed video about strap buttons. Thank you. I mean, who really wants their 3k guitar to slip away from your strap and go crashing to the ground?
Great timing. I've been looking into all the different solutions, and...tada!
Thanks Aaron. Expecting delivery of my 2nd Warmoth body and neck this month. Just ordered a set of the Schallers.
Thanks, Aaron! Great content as always. Now I have to go order a case of those over-sized buttons!
I have the older Schaller's on some of mine and you're not kidding about the noise lol, I tend to go with the Dunlop's because I can get them in flush mount so they don't stick out a mile. (Super boned if I were to forget the strap tho) And I always have some of the rubber retainers in every case and bag, even for the ones that don't need them. Great content! Keep it up!
The creaking was why I got rid of the Schallers.
Amazing breakdown well explained logic
I stumbled across this channel while looking for a "surf green vs. seafoam green" comparison, and I LOVE ITTTTTT
Aaron, you're such a funny, amiable guy, explaining stuff so clearly and enjoyably; who do I see about getting you a raise?
Love it! Thank you. I'm a huge fan of Dunlop. Used them exclusively since the 1980's with zero issues. I started with Schaller but they had a square corner on the strap part that cuts through the strap leather in time. I've also had the strap portion come unscrewed repeatedly. All that ended when I switched to Dunlop. Perhaps the new ones solve these issues?
You nail it down 100% ,coming from a mechanical perspectives ,building cars 🚗, and starting my music 🎶journey, I picked the schaller's,thanks very much for the Gibson review lol 😆😄, my friend just replaced his with the schaller's locking 🔒😀😆his Gibson thanked him immediately 😀
I was rooting for the Schallers as you went through the list ngl lmao
I love them, so clever
To each their own. I have had great results with standard buttons + washers, and my Schaller strap lock (old design) has come apart multiple times.
Thank you "a million times"!
I use dimarzio clip locks, but with the guitars original strap button at the front of the screw! Never ever had to use the button, and some of these clip locks have endured thousands of gigs and rehearsals! Gigging professionally since '88
Aaron, having a science background, I support your conclusion that the oversized strap button with the flat back and slightly rounded crown is the best choice! Its basic physics and geometry, the flat back keeps the strap from migrating over the edge of the larger diameter button, and the rounded crown allows for easy strap installation. The PRS button design was almost there, but they forgot to include a spacer where the shaft of the button meets the guitar. I would shy away from the DiMarzio clip locks because those plastic clips tend to wear out over time (just like on suitcases). I have tried the washers and they tend to fly away (just pop off the strap button). Sold, I will be purchasing extra-large strap buttons from Warmoth.
he is taking about what he likes and what he don't, he's not talking about what realy works, I've use many different strap locks for the past 25 years and the dunlop's are the only ones that never fail
I've had my blue Dimarzio strap lock since I bought it in 1991. It's been to Hell and back with me and looks like it but it still works. The Schallers look cool, though. I might get some of those for my other guitars. Thanks for the shootout.
I've always liked how my Ibanez guitars all came with those oversized strap buttons but I ended up swapping them out for Dimarzio cliplocks. Been using them for 25+ years and never had an issue. I keep the straps in their respective cases so it's not like I'll ever forget them.
iv been geeking about them all week too 🤔im into the chrome schaller strap locks atm
Funny, I've been googling this very thing since I bought a les paul 2 weeks ago. Perfect timing.
I just got a new 2022 Les Paul Standard 50s and don't know what to do. Really don't want to modify this beautiful instrument at all. I've bought a few of these solutions. I'm leaning toward the Schaller S-Locks, but don't want to even modify the guitar that much. The journey for knowledge continues. Ugh.
@@dogbreath203 I ended up just getting the oversized strap buttons. After installing those it finally felt secure to play standing up. I would definitely go that route.
@@therangersinger I'm going to always keep it in the case, so I need a strap I can take off and put on easily.
I just noticed the Ranger patch. My brother was Ranger 101st and '66 West Point Graduate. Thank you Ranger Singer!
@@dogbreath203 much appreciated Sir.
Strap button and metal spacer. This is life.
I love the DiMarzio ClipLock. They’re pretty cheap, too, so you can buy multiples.
My old Dean ML has strap buttons that are just like those "oversized" ones you showed last that it came with by default! They're a bit bigger than the buttons on my other guitars and mushroom shaped just like that (rounded outside, flat inside). I've always wondered why they aren't all like that, and didn't realize for a long time that most other buttons aren't like that! It's a far superior design.
I have been using a steel washer between the strap and a standard button. Attaching and detaching the strap does require screwing off the button but the washer lets the strap spin free of the button.
I've been using Schaller's Since the '80's, but health has made it hard to pull the grips. Making the oversized buttons look VERY good! Nice presentation, thanks!
I think you nailed it. Good job
I'm just going to play sitting down from now on.
Cool! Good info. I've got a set of S Locks that I've yet to put on my LP.
I agree with your assessments, though I did use Dunlops for years on my old LP Custom. They were the first ones I'd ever seen and I had no complaints.
It's a good thing we don't know each other. We think way too much alike. 😂
I have been using the oversized strap buttons and I love them! I wish I was able to order just one set and not four of five, but they are worth it to have around to use for a new guitar or to give to a family member or friend.
Me and a buddy walked into a guitar store about 15 to 20 years ago. the guys at the store knew me pretty good so there was never any problem walking in there and playing any instrument and any amp, so the guitar of the day was a Peavey Wolfgang. retailed around 5000 to 6000, had a 10 top carved quilt top dyed purple with mahogany body and maple neck. sweet guitar, and into a 5150 amp. was ready to rock, this particular model had schaller locks. borrowed a strap from the guys at the store. when suddenly the strap locks came unscrewed and face 1st the guitar smashed into the concrete floor. totally wrecked. Appologized for the incident they took responsibility , I will never ever use schaller strap locks... Didn't even get a chance to strum a chord or wank a guitar lick.. lol
"Suddenly" the strap locks came unscrewed? That sounds unlikely.
I've never used a strap thing out a guitar at a music store always sat down.....
Great content, it's such a small but important decision!🎸🎶
Thanks for not overlooking the little things like strap buttons. It's this kind of attention to detail that I really appreciate.
I've been using S-locks, because I couldn't find anything that I liked that might be "better" in my opinion. I dislike the standard buttons for the same reason you mentioned, but don't honestly care for strap locks. I'm going to buy a couple of sets of the oversize buttons and give them a shot. Who knows; maybe I'll end up doing a full-fleet replacement!
Excellent video. thank you.
I love the info in this vid!!
Aaron, I do like the oversized mushroom strap buttons. I had a couple that came on a Hamer Sunburst. But they are my number two pick. My number one pick is the Dunlop Straplok. I love them and put them on every guitar. Elegant design. Really work. And because of the way the strap buttons are designed, if you leave your strap at home, you can still use them with another strap in a pinch. The way they stand off of the guitar doesn't bother me at all.
Yes.. indeed. Huge problem. Great job!!!
I'm looking at putting some new buttons on a good portion of mine glad I got the name of them
Great video, but I have to disagree with the Schaller vs Dunlop comparison. The strap sits just as far out with both types. Schaller's cup goes over the button and the strap is outside of that. Dunlop's pin goes in the button with the strap outside. Unless there is a washer thickness difference, they're the same. As far as the Schaller cup adding safety if the spring were to break... maybe in most cases. But I had Schallers that would spin on the strap and the cup never seemed to stay under the button, in fact, that's why I quit using them. That was early / mid 80's, maybe they fixed that. I do like the over sized button that you picked for number one (in theory, I haven't tried it). I'm going to try a set.
Great video, thank you for doing it!