Not trying to be this guy, because these sound wonderful and Zildjian is a great company, but don't these seem a little bit too much like the Meinl extra dry line? The lathing on top and bottom and the hammering is so similar.
Parker Moore And now Meinl this year is trying to be like Paiste with their Pure alloy line... Lol but in all honesty I really am not in to to dry cymbals Zildjian, Meinl, Sabian, Paiste I don't care don't like them BUT!... I really do think the dry line would make amazing stacks.... Primarily Zildjian's k custom special dry trash crashes. Someone needs to experiment and post a video on it soon cuz I want to hear the possibility Also P. S. Zildjian why don't you make cymbal packs meant and designed for stacks? Like a combo pair (or more) of cymbals out of the box/bag ready to stack and play?
Ich Und Nicht Du sorry I worded that wrong I meant to say that I don't care for super dry cymbals in general... Weather they come from Sabian or Paiste or whoever. But I am a die hard Zildjian guy and I don't like the crashes or rides from this new line but the trash crashes and that china... Oh my that china... And I think the FX hi hat too is pretty cool.
I respect your taste for sure, I personally love the dry sound of these and the meinls. I do agree that these would make some great stacks. I just feel like they are a little bit of a rip off from what meinl is doing.
Well, after all my years of playing drums (off and on, mostly OFF since 1979), I now know for sure that I do not at all care for DRY Ride and Crash cymbals. Blech! No sustain at all. But I applaud Zildjian for making some cool Custom K effects cymbals. That's innovation. OMG! Those hi-hats, though! The 13" hats sound so tight and crisp! WOW.
The Special Dry line may not be everyone's cup of tea. It's a pretty specialized sound - it wouldn't be the best choice for rock or pop music. But they'd be great for jazz, RnB or fusion. It depends on what you're looking for - some drummers want as little sustain as possible so that the cymbal gets out of the way quickly. It's all up to the individual drummer's tastes!
Sorry but I’m not paying full price for cymbals with a bunch of holes. Zildjian should discount according to the percentage of metal removed. You know they’re recycling all that metal so why not offer the cymbals at a reduced price?
Surely there's a cost associated with the additional process involved with punching the holes. What the company saves in weight in metal, they spend in punching holes. That's why most of these types of cymbals are the same price for "punched or unpunched" cymbals of the same diameter. Don't worry about getting your value for dollar in weight of the cymbal, because it's never been standard practice for any cymbal company to charge less for lighter weight cymbals. Just spend your money on the cymbals you prefer the SOUND of, regardless of how much less metal it takes to produce that sound.
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments It’s all done by machine so that’s not a valid arguement. Lathing a cymbal is necessary for MOST models. Hammering a cymbal in most cases is necessary. Punching holes in cymbals is NOT a necessity so the material removed should be considered in the price. And with that said.....even if I did like the sound of a cymbal with holes I would never consider purchasing it. Many drummers feel the same as I do so it’s not just me.
And the machines used to punch those holes are free to build, run and maintain? ;) Of course not, there's always a cost associated with an additional process, regardless if you agree with the process or not. The holes punched in these cymbals are absolutely necessary to get the SOUND that Zildjian and drummers buying these cymbals are looking for. These holes are not primarily a way for cymbal companies to save money by rooking their customers out of more bronze. It's to produce a different sound that drummers have come to like and expect cymbal companies to offer in their product lineups. And actually, lathing a cymbal is not necessary as there are several models of cymbals that are unlathed. Are these cymbals unlathed because the company wants to save money on lathing? No, it's again because an unlathed cymbal produces a different sound that's desirable for certain customers, in the exact same way that the trashy sound is desirable for certain customers.
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments I never meant that lathing was necessary. That was just incomplete typing. The original Z series are unlathed. The A series Earth Ride is unlathed. There’s a K Custom Ride thats unlathed. There might be others. I understand everything you’re saying but as a sign of good faith it would be nice to see something like a 10% price reduction in the cymbals with a few dozen holes. I would buy one used if it was in good shape and I liked the sound. I’m just not drawn to the sound of these holes cymbals with the exception of some of the China’s. But for the price they’re asking I’d rather buy one with no metal removed.
Them K's sound like nails on a chalkboard lol. And if they get any thinner they'll have to change it to the J-series for jello cause of how much it shakes and wobbles lol
A brilliant way for Zildjian to continue innovating and offer drummers new modern sounds without charging the customer more. K1422, no holes, $385.95: www.long-mcquade.com/80384 K1423, with holes, $385.95: www.long-mcquade.com/80386
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That 23" ride. 👌👌
All great cymbals, but Hi-Hats and the FX are fantastics!
15" K hats, holy China, K dry splash, holy crash, practice cymbals - good stuff.
Love the low volume line.
A godsend for our lesson rooms for sure!
Drooling right now
23 inch ride 👌
They dont often make new things, but when they do, they do it well:)
Gotta say I'm loving the direction they're going now a days! Nice to see some real grungy dirty trashy stuff coming out!
That China crash with holes is fabulous. all the cymbals with holes i like actually.
"Serious eyebrows heading our way at 4:40...." 🦉
Can you actually see the Cymbals Pulse when you hit them? or is it because of the camera?
That's how they really move! They're very thin!
I love the dry 20 inch crash with holes but thats about it (except for them looking cool)
4.44 benny lim?
Not trying to be this guy, because these sound wonderful and Zildjian is a great company, but don't these seem a little bit too much like the Meinl extra dry line? The lathing on top and bottom and the hammering is so similar.
Parker Moore And now Meinl this year is trying to be like Paiste with their Pure alloy line... Lol but in all honesty I really am not in to to dry cymbals Zildjian, Meinl, Sabian, Paiste I don't care don't like them BUT!...
I really do think the dry line would make amazing stacks.... Primarily Zildjian's k custom special dry trash crashes. Someone needs to experiment and post a video on it soon cuz I want to hear the possibility
Also P. S. Zildjian why don't you make cymbal packs meant and designed for stacks? Like a combo pair (or more) of cymbals out of the box/bag ready to stack and play?
Seth Boyd
What cymbals do you like?
Ich Und Nicht Du sorry I worded that wrong I meant to say that I don't care for super dry cymbals in general... Weather they come from Sabian or Paiste or whoever. But I am a die hard Zildjian guy and I don't like the crashes or rides from this new line but the trash crashes and that china... Oh my that china... And I think the FX hi hat too is pretty cool.
Seth Boyd
Oh ok i understand.
I respect your taste for sure, I personally love the dry sound of these and the meinls. I do agree that these would make some great stacks. I just feel like they are a little bit of a rip off from what meinl is doing.
I would not use the K Custom Special Dry by itself. I could only see them being useful in contrast to a very resonant, high-sustain set.
Well, after all my years of playing drums (off and on, mostly OFF since 1979), I now know for sure that I do not at all care for DRY Ride and Crash cymbals. Blech! No sustain at all. But I applaud Zildjian for making some cool Custom K effects cymbals. That's innovation. OMG! Those hi-hats, though! The 13" hats sound so tight and crisp! WOW.
The Special Dry line may not be everyone's cup of tea. It's a pretty specialized sound - it wouldn't be the best choice for rock or pop music. But they'd be great for jazz, RnB or fusion. It depends on what you're looking for - some drummers want as little sustain as possible so that the cymbal gets out of the way quickly. It's all up to the individual drummer's tastes!
Splash’s are not very loud
You don’t need a quiet splash😂
Sorry but I’m not paying full price for cymbals with a bunch of holes. Zildjian should discount according to the percentage of metal removed. You know they’re recycling all that metal so why not offer the cymbals at a reduced price?
Surely there's a cost associated with the additional process involved with punching the holes. What the company saves in weight in metal, they spend in punching holes. That's why most of these types of cymbals are the same price for "punched or unpunched" cymbals of the same diameter. Don't worry about getting your value for dollar in weight of the cymbal, because it's never been standard practice for any cymbal company to charge less for lighter weight cymbals. Just spend your money on the cymbals you prefer the SOUND of, regardless of how much less metal it takes to produce that sound.
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments It’s all done by machine so that’s not a valid arguement. Lathing a cymbal is necessary for MOST models. Hammering a cymbal in most cases is necessary. Punching holes in cymbals is NOT a necessity so the material removed should be considered in the price. And with that said.....even if I did like the sound of a cymbal with holes I would never consider purchasing it. Many drummers feel the same as I do so it’s not just me.
And the machines used to punch those holes are free to build, run and maintain? ;) Of course not, there's always a cost associated with an additional process, regardless if you agree with the process or not. The holes punched in these cymbals are absolutely necessary to get the SOUND that Zildjian and drummers buying these cymbals are looking for. These holes are not primarily a way for cymbal companies to save money by rooking their customers out of more bronze. It's to produce a different sound that drummers have come to like and expect cymbal companies to offer in their product lineups. And actually, lathing a cymbal is not necessary as there are several models of cymbals that are unlathed. Are these cymbals unlathed because the company wants to save money on lathing? No, it's again because an unlathed cymbal produces a different sound that's desirable for certain customers, in the exact same way that the trashy sound is desirable for certain customers.
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments I never meant that lathing was necessary. That was just incomplete typing. The original Z series are unlathed. The A series Earth Ride is unlathed. There’s a K Custom Ride thats unlathed. There might be others. I understand everything you’re saying but as a sign of good faith it would be nice to see something like a 10% price reduction in the cymbals with a few dozen holes. I would buy one used if it was in good shape and I liked the sound. I’m just not drawn to the sound of these holes cymbals with the exception of some of the China’s. But for the price they’re asking I’d rather buy one with no metal removed.
Zildjian Extra Dry
Them K's sound like nails on a chalkboard lol. And if they get any thinner they'll have to change it to the J-series for jello cause of how much it shakes and wobbles lol
Trash Crash!
A clever way for Zildjian to save money on cymbal material while charging the customer more. No holy cymbals for me.
A brilliant way for Zildjian to continue innovating and offer drummers new modern sounds without charging the customer more.
K1422, no holes, $385.95: www.long-mcquade.com/80384
K1423, with holes, $385.95: www.long-mcquade.com/80386
@@longandmcquade Got em 😆
cymbals sound like you're beating on a tin cans
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No se pero no me gusta su sonido
I think it's time to retire that k logo
Never!
Yuck