Fighting Super Props In Early Jets - Abusing Top speed (Applicable Everywhere) -Jet Guides Part 3ish
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Fighting props in a jet can be tedious, but you hold all the cards. Now just have some patience.
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that depressing Hit at the start tho...
"Why nobody uses em"
That alone makes me not want to play anything with big caliber guns.
@@WigglyWings nooo play America, their high caliber one shot
When a 20mm on the F sabre has more damage than the 37 on the MiG 9
@@MausOfTheHouse russian bias))))))
Prop players get mad when you use your only advantage against them because it’s inconvenient. They expect you to turn fight them and if you don’t they start calling you mean names
Prop players even get mad at other prop players. Had a bunch of Spitfire F Mk9s that had managed to outclimb my Yak-3 and my friend in an La-7. The only thing we had on them was speed above 5k. They chased and chased nonstop and got mad that we didn't want to engage even though they outnumbered us 2-1 and eventually 2.5-1 when a P-38J showed up which was steadily gaining. Like... sorry I don't feel like doing something completely pointless and stupid? One of them had the audacity to say that we should learn something from it. Learn what? I've flown that spitfire a lot and my Yak-3. And I also know that a Yak and La are not going to do jack squat against four friggin spitfires with a P-38 thrown into the mix. We just kept outrunning them, but they just kept chasing and chasing. Fortunately some of them ran out of fuel, but the one that started trash talking us kept following. We tried baiting him in, and he just kept being super passive. We even got as far as five kilometers away from each other and he would make a halfhearted dive and go back up. Guy I is saying we should just hurry up and fight and he was too scared to get into a dogfight against an La or a Yak at an altitude where his plane performs better. War thunder players in general need a bit of a reality check. Acting like people should just be willing to throw away their plane in a bad situation even though they won't do the same thing themselves. Hypocrisy is rampant in the War Thunder community.
@@wruenvadam Yes, it's sad and hilarious at the same time when you meet people with this attitude.
@@wruenvadam Well said, I've had some asshat shit on me for leading him to my teammate(He was in a Fw, I was in a Thunderbolt, my teammate was a Spitfire) in an endgame 2v1. It's 100% fairgame and what's worse is that the engagement started with him running deep into his airfield territory and staying there until the AAA sniped me with a coolant leak - I assumed he was watching me and left assuming he would follow my seemingly weaker plane(the engine was working fine for quite a while) and he did.
Fair play works both ways, I'd be more than happy with a 1v1 but if you want to base camp don't bitch if I use the numbers advantage I happen to have, that we as a team collectively earned with individual skill.
@@wruenvadam I had an A6M5 complain that I was running away in my P-51. Lol.
@@Blitzcreeper239 the Dora's got moved to 5.0, they are the most passive little shits, my 47s out run them theyll run straight for airfield when you have them up high and don't take their head ons
"They turn better"
*starts laughing in Yak-15*
Most single engined props still beat you in a dogfight
@@DEFYN but not in Yak 15
it's as good as the rank 3 yak 3
so basiclly even F2G will be hopeless if it commit to turn
No, it will still lose the dogfight vs most props
Might turn well, but it still has an early jet engine
@@DEFYN ok some of the props might outrun it or even outclimb it but still a proper yak fighter
@@flak8842 I believe the Yak 15 can't generate much energy in a turn compared to prop. Meaning that you will eventually lose the turn fight.
man you are a blessing to the war thunder air community
keep up the amazing work
This is one of the 2 most competent Air RB guide channels (other one being Adam) since EgoBoi, and I'm so glad you are here for us. Keep up the awesome work!
who is Ego Boy?
@@kingghidorah8106 ummm... theorangedoom?
@@datboi2250 oh, I thought it was him, but ironically Adam has a very big ego too
@@kingghidorah8106 OrangeDoom's ego was legendary tho, and it will always be with us : P
Lmao 🤣
I like how he leaves the video with an F-80 in a clipped wing flat spin.
what a coincidence, i just got a P 51 -H 5 NA for the 1st time, and i dint know what to do when fight agains jets
Climb
Climb. Dive. Climb back up
If you do dive, try to cut off the jets approach rather than slot in behind him. I see way too many prop pilots lose a potenial kill on a jet because by the time they actually get down to the jets altitude the jet is already out of firing range.
Low speed engaijment props crap jets.
As a early jet player we find props that turn into us and play extremely defensive very annoying because jets are good at ‘ offensive flight( boom zoom, half cut turns, verticals) but bad at defensive flying. But for god sakes don’t fly defensive against a the Italian vampire or a meteor :)
If only fights like this were common, or frequent
Hey DEFYN, imagine if the Me163 was moved up to 9.0. It almost was, thankfully people on the forum objected to it. It'd be tied to the SU-7. Imagine that
Dont worry, next time Su-7 will be 8.7
B 57b machted with supersonic boys
If you are in a slow jet like the he 162 ,yak 15 and p59 there will be props like the tempest mk2 will be able to catch you in steep dives so situational awareness and proper spacing are key . Most 7.0 jets can however outrun props with ease but still panic diving should be avoided.
The 162 has better top speed than a Me 262 at sea level, it isnt exactly slow. Sure its acceleration and energy retention are dogshit, but no prop will ever catch it when its going its top speed.
This is great stuff, but it also really shows you how hopeless the slower jets are against F2Gs.
Why should I fly straight to the mig-9, if I can fly up on the su-11?
_бias
people: they shout that the early jets should not fight against props because they are FAST
Аlso, people (after buying the first jet): die in headon with .50
Так ты и вернул Су-11 7.0
This video was extremely helpful with me so I can know how to play against props in early Jets even better!
I was hoping you could do a "running stock series" I'm having a really hard time especially with American props which I think can only really unlock its potential when it's at its best
This is why I tho l the f80a5 will go up in br at some point.
Learned dogfighting with your tutorials and I still enjoy it
I really enjoy videos like this.
Can you make a video on the Bf 109 k4? I am struggling so much with it!
ruclips.net/video/7AEzjI4ZFGk/видео.html
Depending on how sweaty you are. You maybe should consider trying the 30 mm MK108, because big guns are always fun
@@martijn9568 Boy dont, you need to shoot into the future with them o_o
@@martijn9568 A big problem for me is also the guns. The velocity of the guns are so slow I feel like and the 30 mm! You really have to shoot into the future with them:P
Just climb tbh
hey Defyn i wait whole week for u r videos. also adam is not posting much now. i learn lot from ur and Adams videos . thax
I hope its the swift f7, i love that plane so much, i once had a 1v1 against an f100 in an rb match we both where the last players on each team, he tried to stall me out but thanks to the 2g missle i got him, those fireflash radar beam riding missles are such joy
> 2G
:monkaSmile:
Now do it in the regular MiG-9 which is a worse plane
don't play the early MiG-9
@@berzebuwhy not. I don’t want to grind for the MiG-9 late
excellent flying creamy master...
Very nice opponent, from the cheeky chat at the beginning to the nice flight, and then he didn't bitch when he lost. Is this WT!?
Looking forward to swift content !
Love the typo in the thumbnail
Your thumbnail looks just like il-2 1946 video game launcher LOL
Defyn, correction, the f2g does do like 705 at 5k sustained.
He did mention it in the video, he said it's going to take it a very long time to reach it's top speed at it's optimal altitude.
@@Desi_Nehra it doesn't take that long. Like I've ran away from plenty of props and you get to 700 quite fast.
@@user-hh5pj5jv8pIt’s the altitude that matters. Flat out at 3-4 km is a totally different story to 5-7 km alt.
I got the sea vixen recently. What a beautiful machine it is! For a 3 kill game you get 20k+ rp and 70k SL. For just lobbing a couple missiles.
I have problems fighting more agile aircraft like zeros when they are above me. I try to extend away but they dive and catch me then they get on my tail and I can’t shake them. What can I do?
gg, ya bois played your cards right.
they moved the SU-11 to 7.0 because reasons...
pretty nice fight :]
My highest tech tree in air is sweden and I get more kills in the props when I'm on my a game than when I'm in a jet lol cause I havnt gotten good at jets yet
I hate F2G-1s. They don't belong at 6.0, they made Fw.190D-9 useless:/
What about Tempest Mk.II?
@@_lliu3oqppehu9l_83 Jup, the F2G hasn't really changed much as the Tempest and P-51 already existed.
@@martijn9568 F4U-4B?
I mean, the F4U-4B is better than the 190 D-9 in the same ways at the same alts as the F2G is vs the 190 while having better turn, guns, and at 5.7
I am having a very hard time playing the fw d series.
Let defyn cook
I'd just J out. Who the fuck wants to run away from a prop for 8 fucking minutes?
Next video… bucaneer with rockets !
.50 Cals are always dangerous, no matter how pathetic they sound.
Absuing? Typo in the thumbnail?
Fok, i'll fix when i get home
Can you maybe make a Q5 vid?
We need more rankings so it os soread out more and u dont run into props
same energy as mig15bis and f25 sabre vs early jets....... also the damn MM is a complete mess with usa vs usa and so on
do you think this same tactic will work on the He 162? it has a very low top speed for a jet so I'm scared that props will catch up to me in a dive
Yes, but due to the nature of the He162 with low acceleration and top speed, it's definitely more of a struggle compared to jets like the MiG-9L
Depends the .50 can snipe the salamander from far away.
Mig9 late is so balanced
Do you stream by chance?
I don't
Heli gameplay when?
I fought a jet today at 4.3
lol wtf
p 59?
Props shouldn't fight jets , and vise versa.
Nah he tweakin
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My first early jet that ive flown was the me262 🥲 yes the movie red rails got me wanting to fly it lol
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