Yeah, the quest link isn't suitable for flat PC games. Once the motion controller is placed down, a gaze cursor appears, making any game unplayable. ruclips.net/user/shortsEtwJ_KfIG5M
Virtual Desktop still edges this option out for me. With a 5Ghz router, you can wirelessly display your desktop with unreal resolution up to 120fps. The small lag you feel when using HDMI link I'd say is maybe doubled when using Virtual Desktop, but I still think it's negligible in most cases. Excellent video! I just got the new iPhone 16 Pro and it finally has video out over usb C. This is another great way to walk around with a great video signal for the Link. I'm hoping Meta let's other apps use the HDMI link; Bigscreen or Virtual Desktop could have some amazing implementations.
VD is great but on a handheld it would be beneficial to reduce the performance needed. I'm still using mostly VD but my on the go setup is not very stable because of unreliable wifi.
Sure an HDMI adapter takes away the encoding performance hit virtual desktop has. . Problem is in the real world, using this exact HDMI capture card with the quest 3 creates roughly a 60ms lag. Virtual desktop is roughly 40ms in h.264 and 50ms in h.265. Plus....id argue it looks better in VD. It's not the hagabis capture card in the video. Connected to my laptop and set at 200mbps, it looks great! The lag is closer to 40ms. Connected to the quest 3, it looks closer to 15-20mbps.
I am tempted to pick up the one cable solution. This is a really neat setup. I tried the NReal, but never really enjoyed it because you had to move the eyes around like you said. I also wear glasses and am nearsighted so it doesn't work well with me without lenses.
On a windows handheld you can just install the meta link app or virtual desktop and stream the desktop to VR via a usb-c cable or WLAN without any additional hardware.
If you get XReal Air 2 Ultras, and the regular BEAM device, you can keep the image locked in place and even walk away from it and come back it'll stay where you locked it. And you can charge both the BEAM and your device (ROG) with a splitter that passes DisplayPort ALT and power. 330" simulated screen size close or far away that stays there whether you go to the bathroom or not, and can use high resolution and refresh. Or i skip the wires and use Virtual Desktop to do similar.
If you have an internet connection then virtual desktop is by far the best option for this, I played through all of fallout4 through the quest while laying in bed
Please correct me if I'm wrong, so if I use Hagibis silver adapter in order to have steam deck on quest 3 I need usb c to hdmi cable and hdmi connects to Hagibis. Same with ps5 hdmi-hdmi cable to capture card and capture card to quest 3. I just want to make sure I can use this to play deck and ps5 on quest. I don't understand why one Hagibis has female and white Hagibis has male. Thanks for the video!
Yes, that's correct. For Steam Deck, you could also use the "one cable solution", but if you want it to work with ps5 as well, your solution is better. The white cable with a male HDMI was for use with the Switch. It connects to the Switch with its usb-c end, and has a handy HDMI cable for plugging into your TV/capture card.
been playing flatscreen games on big screens via virtual desktop already, i'd love it if the HDMI App was reliable but in my experience (maybe its my capture card or the USB A to USB C cable) i get very low frame rate compared to VD which is why for now i stick to not using HDMI although i'd prefer it. If going for tethered HDMI though, i'd prefer a solution that charges the quest and (if handheld device is on the other side) the mobile device (obviously not needed on tower pc) will look into that in the near future for sure but playing remotely tetherless is already awesome as well.
It would be interesting to try Sunshine/Moonlight by way of contrast. I use Rokid Max 1200p/120Hz/16:10 AR glasses as a straightforward HMD for all my handhelds. No muss, fuss. Infinitely better than Xreal.
Major question -> Is the image quality limited or decided by the quality of the capture card? Please clarify as capture cards tend to cost a lot if I want great image quality without any artifacts and minimum 60 fps. I also want to purchase the latest Meta quest to use as a monitor.
There are some wireless options that I used with the quest three when I rented it for a week to try it out, and if there was any latency, it was imperceptible to me gaming
I’d love to see an official MQ3 USB hub attachment, or even if someone like Bobo VR could make a new strap that has a built in USB hub That way we could plug in wired headsets, hdmi (maybe even multiple??), keyboard and mouse, or stuff like pianos for piano vision… without the discomfort of hanging heavy equipment on the side, and losing ability to charge at the same time
Literally stumbled across this video as I'm getting a quest 3 512gb on Saturday and I'm vigorously searching everything I can 😂😂😂 I have a Samsung S24 Ultra so I'm looking forward to connecting that. Also I have a Component to Hdmi converter for my older consoles (PS2-Dreamcast) wonder if I can run my PS2 with this method 🤔🤔🤔 I can see myself doing alot of messing about. Anyway, great video. you have a new subscriber
You'll love it :) Just keep some reservations regarding the quality of the passthrough cameras, as they really are a tad grainy. It's not terrible for my eyes. But here's something you might enjoy - Do you play with smart homes at all? If yes, remember tha tthe quest runs android, so you can install the smart home app on it and control your smart home stuff in MR :D Nothing beats turning on the AC directly from your quest HUD haha :D
@PedroLiberal the only VR I've ever tried was the original PSVR so I'm used to grainy lol I'm looking forward to experimenting with it. it's just been delivered and I'm at work 🙃
I tried HDMI link for a few things but, it's kinda disappointing for the things I want to play but, the hagibis capture card is great if you got a raspberry pi.
The app called Immersed is pretty good. I use it to view my Steam Deck but it only works on desktop mode. Haven't figured out game mode. Even with screens, I prefer to be in VR. I don't use pass through.
@@JAHDUBProductions does this app give you a black background, so only the screen is showing. I’m not fond of having a pass through background, not even a VR background like what big screen provides (bed room, drive through, balcony etc.) something like a black void with just the screen in front of you, best example would be the RUclips app in theatre mode, just with, you know, gameplay lol
@@DavidAddis are you sure? i keep seeing conflicting information on this, most posts say you cant power the Quest3S and charge it at the same time. im so confused and cant find any videos on this
@@Rockysbeats Hi, I'm sorry, I slightly misunderstood your first question. For some reason, I thought you meant charge the Ally (using its second usb-c port on the Ally X), which is an option for charging the source device (but not the headset). It is possible to charge the headset and use an HDMI capture card at the same time using the dongle I show at 6:18. You'll need a usb-c charger to plug into it. Now I suppose it gets interesting if you plug that dongle into the headset - can you add a second cable from the Ally X to the dongle to provide power as well? So the Ally X charges the headset? That, I haven't tried, but I could give it a go this evening if that's what you want to find out. It'll probably come down to the negotiation between the two devices, and which thinks it's the 'host'. My gut feeling is that it won't charge, but I'd have to try it to be sure.
@@shaddowminer Good question, but sadly not! The source device needs to see the usb-c connection as some kind of video out, and the headset needs a capture card. The cable I found basically combines these into a single (chunky) cable.
couldnt you just anydesk on android device? i never tried anydesk on android but i believe it said it does that too i have 2 pc's linked together and theres no noticeable delay
@@lt5550 Yes! Depending which direction you mean... Usb-c to HDMI is fairly common (it's just a usb-c dongle with only one output, the HDMI). As an input, I show an HDMI to usb-c cable at 6:18.
@@X862go Virtual Desktop is awesome, but it requires a network and you might not always be near a (good) WiFi AP. Also, it requires an app on the source device to capture the screen, which isn't possible on, say, a PS5.
Have you found a solution where you can charge the headset and gaming device at the same time (I have Steam Deck)? I already bought a PD Capture Card, just need a solution to keep the deck charged....
I have this one on the way @DavidAddis . Hagibis USB 3.0 Video Capture Card With 100W PD For Meta Quest 3 iPad HDMI to USB/Type-c Gaming Live Streaming Video Recorder Will this power the Steam Deck too?
I've been using Immersed to view the Steam Deck wireless but I can only get it to work in desktop mode. The Steam Deck runs Blender so I had to try it. Been tempted to get a windows handheld. There's no Linux version of programs like Shapelab.
I would assume that any way to throw HDMI/DP signal to the device would work, but overall it does sound really enticing. Quest 3 is a great device for VR and AR and I am glad that it supports so many use-cases, on which some way more expensive devices lack. I am mostly using it for wireless VR gaming and I assume that more and more options are to come - but sheer idea of using Quest as an output device for a console does sound at least interesting - it definitely could work as more private way of playing games, not allowing anyone to backseat you, or play game on console while your TV is occupied by someone else. I see lots of possibilities in this regard.
Before anyone gets too excited... I have the exact hagibis HDMI adapter. Using dex to my laptop, it's really not bad. But using my laptop or dex on the quest 3, there's definitely some input lag. Unusable, maybe not. But id say about 60ms of lag. Virtual desktop definitely is less than that
yeah, i'm playing everyday my steam deck on the train with Xreal Air 2 pro, it's cool to be able to do this if you aleady have a quest 3 still, but yeah not the best way to do it.
@@fintore Lol! Virtual Desktop is great! But, with HDMI Link: 1. You can use it without a WiFi network (e.g traveling) 2. There is no impact on performance on the source 3. It works with anything that outputs HDMI
@@DavidAddis streaming to it never works. The tracking is ok but not perfect. It gets very hot quickly and crashes often. I preordered it when it was announced and I’m just not impressed. I have an iPhone 16 pro max now so I don’t even need it to stream iPhone to it (which never worked properly)
why game on a real oled screen when you can butcher the fidelity, the performance and the ease of use when with a convoluted virtual screen setup that has been surpassed by standalone goggles YEARS ago
I really appreciated this video. I’m shocked using the quest as a wired monitor wasn’t higher on their list of priorities. Good job
If they made that too good, they might accidentally make a PCVR headset.
defnitely not the main goal for meta
they want new platform
not the monitor for pc or phones
Yeah, the quest link isn't suitable for flat PC games. Once the motion controller is placed down, a gaze cursor appears, making any game unplayable. ruclips.net/user/shortsEtwJ_KfIG5M
Virtual Desktop still edges this option out for me. With a 5Ghz router, you can wirelessly display your desktop with unreal resolution up to 120fps. The small lag you feel when using HDMI link I'd say is maybe doubled when using Virtual Desktop, but I still think it's negligible in most cases. Excellent video! I just got the new iPhone 16 Pro and it finally has video out over usb C. This is another great way to walk around with a great video signal for the Link. I'm hoping Meta let's other apps use the HDMI link; Bigscreen or Virtual Desktop could have some amazing implementations.
I agree that virtual desktop is better for the fact that it is wireless.
VD is great but on a handheld it would be beneficial to reduce the performance needed. I'm still using mostly VD but my on the go setup is not very stable because of unreliable wifi.
@Dindonmasker yea I just got fiber so I should be fine but yea without decent internet I wouldn't suggest it as an option
Sure an HDMI adapter takes away the encoding performance hit virtual desktop has.
. Problem is in the real world, using this exact HDMI capture card with the quest 3 creates roughly a 60ms lag. Virtual desktop is roughly 40ms in h.264 and 50ms in h.265. Plus....id argue it looks better in VD.
It's not the hagabis capture card in the video. Connected to my laptop and set at 200mbps, it looks great! The lag is closer to 40ms. Connected to the quest 3, it looks closer to 15-20mbps.
@@Dindonmasker That's where the D-Link Air Bridge comes in handy. Dongle-sized dedicated wifi router for your Q3.
@11:40 Oh Man, there was soooo much foreshadowing in this section of your video. You nailed it.
@@cobaltblue1975 The leaks were accurate. 😁
Great video! The Puppis S1 is also a fantastic affordable option for latency-free high-resolution streaming with the Meta Quest series of devices.
This opens up very cool possibilities when paired with travel mode!
At home I used Moonlight on the quest 3. Works perfectly. PC Ethernet and controller Bluetooth or 2.4 directly to the PC
I am tempted to pick up the one cable solution. This is a really neat setup. I tried the NReal, but never really enjoyed it because you had to move the eyes around like you said. I also wear glasses and am nearsighted so it doesn't work well with me without lenses.
Great video showing the different options. I must say I like the Ugreen all in one most and have now ordered that via your link.
I did special computing with my Playstation 2 with a HDMI converter - worked great and very surreal!
This is when those usb c to hdmi cables i bought years ago come in handy!
On a windows handheld you can just install the meta link app or virtual desktop and stream the desktop to VR via a usb-c cable or WLAN without any additional hardware.
you are the best bro literally the video i needed
Can you just use 1 display port usb-c cable?
If you get XReal Air 2 Ultras, and the regular BEAM device, you can keep the image locked in place and even walk away from it and come back it'll stay where you locked it. And you can charge both the BEAM and your device (ROG) with a splitter that passes DisplayPort ALT and power. 330" simulated screen size close or far away that stays there whether you go to the bathroom or not, and can use high resolution and refresh.
Or i skip the wires and use Virtual Desktop to do similar.
Thank you for the video.
I never knew that meta quest could be used as external monitor.
If you have an internet connection then virtual desktop is by far the best option for this, I played through all of fallout4 through the quest while laying in bed
This is awesome, we can potentially connect any gaming console
and a pc
@apple wtf u doing with vision pro
Please correct me if I'm wrong, so if I use Hagibis silver adapter in order to have steam deck on quest 3 I need usb c to hdmi cable and hdmi connects to Hagibis. Same with ps5 hdmi-hdmi cable to capture card and capture card to quest 3. I just want to make sure I can use this to play deck and ps5 on quest. I don't understand why one Hagibis has female and white Hagibis has male. Thanks for the video!
Yes, that's correct. For Steam Deck, you could also use the "one cable solution", but if you want it to work with ps5 as well, your solution is better.
The white cable with a male HDMI was for use with the Switch. It connects to the Switch with its usb-c end, and has a handy HDMI cable for plugging into your TV/capture card.
been playing flatscreen games on big screens via virtual desktop already, i'd love it if the HDMI App was reliable but in my experience (maybe its my capture card or the USB A to USB C cable) i get very low frame rate compared to VD which is why for now i stick to not using HDMI although i'd prefer it.
If going for tethered HDMI though, i'd prefer a solution that charges the quest and (if handheld device is on the other side) the mobile device (obviously not needed on tower pc) will look into that in the near future for sure but playing remotely tetherless is already awesome as well.
are there are 3D games that can be played? separate view per eye so you see the depth in the virtual monitor would be really cool.
@@alborzdesign I don't think there's a way to send 2 video streams to HDMI Link (yet), but you can accomplish this with Virtual Desktop.
It would be interesting to try Sunshine/Moonlight by way of contrast.
I use Rokid Max 1200p/120Hz/16:10 AR glasses as a straightforward HMD for all my handhelds. No muss, fuss. Infinitely better than Xreal.
Would you happen to know how well it works on an ROG Ally X?
@@TalonsRebellion - it should work just fine.
I don’t get why it’s just not hdmi over usb c. I can usb c 6:50 straight to a tv from the alley 4k 120
because the quest doesn't support direct usb c video in, the capture card puts it into a usable format for the quest.
Major question -> Is the image quality limited or decided by the quality of the capture card? Please clarify as capture cards tend to cost a lot if I want great image quality without any artifacts and minimum 60 fps. I also want to purchase the latest Meta quest to use as a monitor.
I'm waiting for a Quest 3 accessory specifically designed for this purpose.
Multi-tasking: You can watch a gameplay of Subway Surfers on the left, clips of Family Guy on the right, and gmaing in the middle. 😂
There are some wireless options that I used with the quest three when I rented it for a week to try it out, and if there was any latency, it was imperceptible to me gaming
This is peaked human magic.
I’d love to see an official MQ3 USB hub attachment, or even if someone like Bobo VR could make a new strap that has a built in USB hub
That way we could plug in wired headsets, hdmi (maybe even multiple??), keyboard and mouse, or stuff like pianos for piano vision… without the discomfort of hanging heavy equipment on the side, and losing ability to charge at the same time
Literally stumbled across this video as I'm getting a quest 3 512gb on Saturday and I'm vigorously searching everything I can 😂😂😂
I have a Samsung S24 Ultra so I'm looking forward to connecting that.
Also I have a Component to Hdmi converter for my older consoles (PS2-Dreamcast) wonder if I can run my PS2 with this method 🤔🤔🤔
I can see myself doing alot of messing about.
Anyway, great video. you have a new subscriber
You'll love it :) Just keep some reservations regarding the quality of the passthrough cameras, as they really are a tad grainy. It's not terrible for my eyes. But here's something you might enjoy - Do you play with smart homes at all? If yes, remember tha tthe quest runs android, so you can install the smart home app on it and control your smart home stuff in MR :D Nothing beats turning on the AC directly from your quest HUD haha :D
@PedroLiberal the only VR I've ever tried was the original PSVR so I'm used to grainy lol
I'm looking forward to experimenting with it. it's just been delivered and I'm at work 🙃
@@Tonythomas1984 Hey, if you don't mind telling me, how long was your wait time for the Quest 3?
@Alpha13yt I was told it was going to come on saturday but it came this morning. 4 days from when I ordered. I'm in the UK
Curious how the Viture Pro would compare for you?
I tried HDMI link for a few things but, it's kinda disappointing for the things I want to play but, the hagibis capture card is great if you got a raspberry pi.
I wish that it could just have a black background so you will have to see their environment sort of like if you were in the theater
The app called Immersed is pretty good. I use it to view my Steam Deck but it only works on desktop mode. Haven't figured out game mode. Even with screens, I prefer to be in VR. I don't use pass through.
@@JAHDUBProductions does this app give you a black background, so only the screen is showing. I’m not fond of having a pass through background, not even a VR background like what big screen provides (bed room, drive through, balcony etc.) something like a black void with just the screen in front of you, best example would be the RUclips app in theatre mode, just with, you know, gameplay lol
Dang, that's super cool!
if you have your rog alley docked cant you just plug a cable from the headset to the alley and have the dock power the headset?
@@Rockysbeats good point, yes you can!
@@DavidAddis are you sure? i keep seeing conflicting information on this, most posts say you cant power the Quest3S and charge it at the same time. im so confused and cant find any videos on this
@@Rockysbeats Hi, I'm sorry, I slightly misunderstood your first question. For some reason, I thought you meant charge the Ally (using its second usb-c port on the Ally X), which is an option for charging the source device (but not the headset).
It is possible to charge the headset and use an HDMI capture card at the same time using the dongle I show at 6:18. You'll need a usb-c charger to plug into it.
Now I suppose it gets interesting if you plug that dongle into the headset - can you add a second cable from the Ally X to the dongle to provide power as well? So the Ally X charges the headset? That, I haven't tried, but I could give it a go this evening if that's what you want to find out. It'll probably come down to the negotiation between the two devices, and which thinks it's the 'host'. My gut feeling is that it won't charge, but I'd have to try it to be sure.
Question, Doers it have to be a capture card? or can it just be a Type c to HDMi female?
@@ninjaBOMB100 yes, it does have to be a capture card. I've never seen a type C to female HDMI that wasn't a capture card, mind. 🙂
Dang
The Ugreen cable is not available here in the states
I found it on amazon.com and added the link to the description, does that work? It's not an affiliate link (I wish!).
would this not work with just a USB c to c cable?
@@shaddowminer Good question, but sadly not! The source device needs to see the usb-c connection as some kind of video out, and the headset needs a capture card. The cable I found basically combines these into a single (chunky) cable.
couldnt you just anydesk on android device?
i never tried anydesk on android but i believe it said it does that too
i have 2 pc's linked together and theres no noticeable delay
can this only be done with the capture card and not a regular usb4?
Is there a version of the cable that is USB C to HDMI directly 🤔
@@lt5550 Yes! Depending which direction you mean... Usb-c to HDMI is fairly common (it's just a usb-c dongle with only one output, the HDMI). As an input, I show an HDMI to usb-c cable at 6:18.
@@DavidAddis Thanks
could i plug my firestick to the hdmi capture card?
Ok but why not just use something like virtual desktop?
@@X862go Virtual Desktop is awesome, but it requires a network and you might not always be near a (good) WiFi AP. Also, it requires an app on the source device to capture the screen, which isn't possible on, say, a PS5.
Have you found a solution where you can charge the headset and gaming device at the same time (I have Steam Deck)?
I already bought a PD Capture Card, just need a solution to keep the deck charged....
@@VirtualSteven yes you can use that second cable from Hagibis - with the HDMI input. I'll add some links to the description.
I have this one on the way @DavidAddis .
Hagibis USB 3.0 Video Capture Card With 100W PD For Meta Quest 3 iPad HDMI to USB/Type-c Gaming Live Streaming Video Recorder
Will this power the Steam Deck too?
I've been using Immersed to view the Steam Deck wireless but I can only get it to work in desktop mode. The Steam Deck runs Blender so I had to try it. Been tempted to get a windows handheld. There's no Linux version of programs like Shapelab.
Is their one that can capture 1080 120hz?
@@SooWavyFliiBoiWalt not that I know of. I would like a capture card like this, too!
Will be able to get my iPad Pro to work via this cable solution?
@@andrewfoskett2527 I _think_ so. It supports video out by usb-c, right?
@@DavidAddis yes i think so. Just want to use Nomad Sculpt on a massive screen. 😀
I would assume that any way to throw HDMI/DP signal to the device would work, but overall it does sound really enticing.
Quest 3 is a great device for VR and AR and I am glad that it supports so many use-cases, on which some way more expensive devices lack.
I am mostly using it for wireless VR gaming and I assume that more and more options are to come - but sheer idea of using Quest as an output device for a console does sound at least interesting - it definitely could work as more private way of playing games, not allowing anyone to backseat you, or play game on console while your TV is occupied by someone else.
I see lots of possibilities in this regard.
I'll just keep using my Rayneo glasses
How can i use my meta controller to play games like Street Fighter 6 or Resident Evil 4? It is possible?
Steam VR. (PCVR)
do you know if i could use quest 2
In the Quest Store, it says it supports Quest 2. So I would expect it to work, although I haven't tested it myself.
Is capture card nessery?
Before anyone gets too excited... I have the exact hagibis HDMI adapter. Using dex to my laptop, it's really not bad.
But using my laptop or dex on the quest 3, there's definitely some input lag. Unusable, maybe not. But id say about 60ms of lag. Virtual desktop definitely is less than that
XR glasses exist.
yeah, i'm playing everyday my steam deck on the train with Xreal Air 2 pro, it's cool to be able to do this if you aleady have a quest 3 still, but yeah not the best way to do it.
So? Still need to buy a Beam for it to work properly.
@@ryulanda9399 not true, never bought any :)
yes siir
///
spatial gaming 🤓
tbh its truly the future imo
why hdmi and not display port
I don't think you get audio with display port.
You can't use this in train, because you're moving)
Halo is just crushed lol I couldnt fix it on various screens but my old LG IPS looks fine go figure.
Why this horrible torture? Why not just use a Virtual Desktop?
@@fintore Lol! Virtual Desktop is great! But, with HDMI Link:
1. You can use it without a WiFi network (e.g traveling)
2. There is no impact on performance on the source
3. It works with anything that outputs HDMI
yes the is and it cast 10 k
I have the beam and it's trash.
@@RichardServello thanks for the info, that's kind of a shame! What makes it bad? Compatibility, reliability, performance? Or something else?
@@DavidAddis streaming to it never works. The tracking is ok but not perfect. It gets very hot quickly and crashes often. I preordered it when it was announced and I’m just not impressed. I have an iPhone 16 pro max now so I don’t even need it to stream iPhone to it (which never worked properly)
@@RichardServello good to know. Thank you. 👍
why game on a real oled screen when you can butcher the fidelity, the performance and the ease of use when with a convoluted virtual screen setup that has been surpassed by standalone goggles YEARS ago
stop word games. RX4090 and bulky PC are the right answers.