Man I wish this movie wouldn’t get lost as just another good movie, the message is so relevant and in our faces.… We absolutely have a genuine problem with brainwashing through consumption rather it’s Music, Food, Vanity, etc…. Upholding “cloned” personalities in our communities…. if we remove the satire, this could be used as an educational piece.
Art imitating life, just be happy that you saw through the vail. More truth hidden in plain sight as intended. If movies like this weren't labeled as comedies I don't think they would be funded
THIS THIS THIS! even with the satire I think it still does a great job of getting an important message across. Ive said it before and I’ll say it again: every Black person needs to watch this movie and really take it all in. Bravo to Juel
Bruh what?! Donald glover?! Jordan peele? They are too new to have any impact and influence. Only guy to have impact besides boots Riley that you mentioned is Jordan peele
@@vvsvellaire1455 idk about that. And I'm not calling they cloned Tyrone a knockoff when I say this, but there have been a lot of Get out type beat, Atlanta type beat projects since they came out lol. Also Donald Glover was doing Atlanta before Jordan Peele's first movie so he's up there. I really think afrosurrealism became popular in film because of them.
@7hundred7eventy7 The black church has always been a revered place in our community; both historically & currently--which made it the perfect base of operations for the agency. There are layers of context to that; dressing up misinformation & the guise of "religion" to maintain the status quo is probably one of the deepest nuggets in the film
@@francisko338 yeah like I said- maybe back in the day when we listened to our elders. The church is no longer a pillar of the black community, as much as I want that back.
@7hundred7eventy7 Yes, there is a generational shift in attitudes; more people are opting for spirituality versus organized religion, but depending on your location (I'm from the south), the black church--for better or worse--still has a cultural vice grip on our communities. Many people are practically reared in the church, with some of our earliest memories being tied to it. Example, I could probably sing a few words of "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" or any number of devotional songs & typically, any black person within a few feet can finish the lyrics. Some may even say the church is an early form of brainwashing. Essentially, from birth, you're not really given a choice--you're subjected to an idea & are told what to believe without really asking any questions. It shapes a lot of our opinions, decision-making, & how we navigate through life. I think the movie touches on that aspect & while yes, attitudes are changing about the church, it's still largely a hub for projecting a belief system. Just like with the perm kits, the chicken, & club music, it's another "soft target" hidden in plain sight, but specifically because the church is so socially/culturally intertwined, I think it makes it more dangerous than all the others. Easier access to spread disinformation; control cloaked in morality. Hence the agency's need to headquarter there.
The scene where Fontaine breaks down his mom’s door is actually the scariest scene to me. The realization that it was all fake stuck with me for days after I watched.
@@oprincesslivie02 me and my girlfriend were wondering did he never think to open the door before then? Like he went all those years without seeing her and just never questioned it?
That person in the bloody clothes walking down the street was the first fontaine. You can tell by the way the second fontaine was looking like he kinda of recognize that person but couldn't tell because they was down the street. Frog saying off to see the wizard again is the confirmation. It's the little things in this movie that made it good have to rewatch to see new points of views.
The squidward connection blew my mind because it’s so fucking accurate my jaw is on the floor, and it makes sense for them to be the ones to figure it out because the original fontaine + plot armor duh
You hit all the points. As a 90's kid I'm glad you touched on the Spongebob thing that was so deep, this movie was so good! Also I love the plot of the movie too. It's saying the people are the ones that can make the change and bring down the system. The people of Glen were able to come together, trick the people watching them, and expose the operation. It's a great feel good message and a great showcase of black talent.
This is truly a horror movie. I linked the lack of security in this town as part of the experiment. They showed more than one "Glen". Why wouldn't this be a social experiment as well?
That movie was awesome. The plot, the twists, the characters. The Isaac/Fontaine subplot was dope. I love a hood movie and a redemption story. Add sci-fi and I’m in heaven. Only thing missing was a Billy D Williams cameo. Loved it.
Black dynamite is the FUNNIEST SHIT 😂😂 I first seen it when I was like 17. I'm 33 now, and white lol I try to show any of my white friends it when I can. Lol the end, when he's fighting the Japanese scientist guy, he throws the boomerang knife and it cuts the scientist hand off. Black dynamite jumps into the scene abs says HA! I THREW THAT SHIT BEFORE I WALKED IN THE ROOM!! 😅😅😅 I love it! So many good parts. That one fight when he accidentally for real hits the guy, and he's like MUTHA FUCKA! and it cuts back and it's a COMPLETELY different guy now, not the one that got mad 😂 they didn't give a fuck 😅😅
It's crazy to me that Tyrone's main color is green and teal linking him to squidward and Yo-yo the most opmistic one who never gives up even as she's mistreated by those she works for has the main color of yellow. Y'know like Spongebob. And I guess Slick Charles would be Patrick? Redish pink, closer with Yo-yo, hair that kinda makes him taller like Patrick's pointier head What am i saying
another Easter egg is the fact everything has been in front of their faces the whole time but they just look over it like how in the end he sees on tv “clones” getting found and sees himself and the fact him and his friends don’t get the idea he’s a clone also just “ain’t that you Tyrone” shows how oblivious everyone is irl when looking at stuff for instance it might or might not be coincidence Jamie fox had rumors of being cloned before this movie aired and then he’s one of the lead stars in a clone movie 😲
@124dkg9 ding ding ding. 100%, opps would have been killed and no one would really know except another clone which doesnt matter to the organization anyway
The movie's entire premise counted on people being stupid. The evil secret science people literally facilitated their own failure, the Nixon guy gave away his trigger word which opened the door for anyone to take the suited clone and have the suited clone kill Nixon. Somehow they didn't see that Yoyo hair was a wig despite testing black hair for years through the white dj and hair salon chick. And they had the whole hood monitored but never caught on to two of their clones plotting with a prostitute to overthrow their control. The evil people were stupid and sloppy and the town of the Glenn got very very lucky. That's the movie. The crazy part,....this movie could be viewed as a practice for the real secret science people controlling everything. The movie said and showed there are other areas like the Glenn around America, maybe the downfall of the scientists and clone lab in the Glenn was just a trial run for if other cities try and make that happen elsewhere. So that then next time the evil scientists won't be as stupid as they were in the Glenn. I only bring up this theory because of that homeless guy. The homeless guy was basically giving the trio clues throughout the movie like he was a robot or a genie or witch. He basically led them to where they needed to be for the plot to happen, as if he was part of everything and had a purpose beyond just saying some random mutterings to the trio. What if, the scientists were using the trio as a test for how to spot future disruptive personalities and mentalities (Malcom X type people) and then deal with them? The movie ended in a typical fiction fashion, the day is saved (only in that one city tho) and all the clones of the Glenn are freed. But as I watched and meditated on the ending, it felt more like a dishonest conclusion rather than the feel good ending they were shooting for. They won that day but what about tomorrow, what if the Government in that world turns on Black people because of the clones being exposed and they retaliate in all the other clone cities. The movie left me wondering how does a situation like this realistically end, because I know for sure that ending wasn't it. It was too positive, despite the darker implications of the premise of the movie and Tyrone disrupting the old ass clone's story about him and Fontaine being the only ones.
I think a lot of the so called plot holes in this movie can be explained by the organization's hubris. They're so overconfident they don't give a shit. You can see it in the scene where the nightclub chases down the Scooby gang and they just let them go. They don't give a hoot.
I was writing a book with the same twist ending of turning black people white but not with clones😢 watching this made me feel like the Tyrone watching the news at the end
I hope you're not discouraged from finishing. There's a reason why multiple people will have the same or similar thematic or plot points around the same point in time, as it'll usually reflect something that's very relevant in the current times, and is a thought bubbling in the general sub conscious. And that particular one is definitely of current relevance, just considering the current post Cold War dominance of capitalism, and the way it likes to kinda wipe out organic, and genuine longstanding cultures and communities, in favor of trying to form everyone everywhere into an alienated, homogenized sameness in order to make them better consumers, out of a need to fill the emptiness in their lives
That's just on a general level too. There's more specific ways that theme is extremely relevant now, with unchecked gentrification of too many city neighborhoods/communities, and also the way the internet and social media makes too many people all have to follow the same things
Thank you for your analysis, a banger as always. That Squidward theory is solid, and I'll rewatch it through that lense. A few points, though. 1. YoYo is meant to be an outlier. She's represents the people in the hood that have the drive and intelligence to recognize the indoctrination but give in "hood circumstances." 2. Sheep were the first cloned mammals, so all you need are key members in a controlled environment, the hood, to clone to shepherd the flock. (Dboy, Pimp, and TD Jakes..er..I mean.. Religious figure). 3. The hair, in several African diaspora beliefs, is where we keep our soul, our power. Its telling that that is the hardest to genetically manipulate. Great video as always, keep going sir!
Thank you for your professional approach to reviewing this movie. I loved it, and was puzzled as to why many of my favorite volgers and video essayist did not have any comments. I'm sure it is linked to the generous use of hood-vernacular and their fear of cancellation as the dialogue is a minefield of the N-word and jokes about hood culture. Still this movie is artfully constructed giving me wonderful Easter-eggs to discover with each re-watch. It's hard to believe this was Juel Taylor's debut film! I look forward to his next offering.
So... people will think I'm crazy, but the government started cloning trials with rats in the early 80's and progressed to larger mammals. By the time they started talking about "dolly" the sheep, they were already testing how they could "modify" or "enhance" the subjects with gene alterations. Not to mention their cross-breeding attempts like the goat-sheep hybrid "geap"... really weird that they stopped talking about it, especially since you can literally clone you pet for $50,000 in China.
This movie reminded me personally of Soylent Green (1973) and John Carpenter's They Live (1988). I also noticed that the Preacher looked like Fredrick Douglass and the church was playing Back That Azz Up LOL, I thought it was funny asf and maybe spoke to the hypocrisy of Black Christians
@NineNerdYards I believe that parts have to be real... like the music blaring over those two dudes fighting. They know more than the public about the music "they" release. That, the food, and the action of putting stuff in it to control the people. Also the "control group" idea of a town or a certain part of the country get "special things" in order to watch and see what happens. During covid, certain vaccines were sent to certain parts of the country. And then there were different reactions based on what company made the vaccines. It all seems like things that are too easy for the gov to do.
@@averson7 to give you credit on that declassified documents showed that the C.I.A tried to use Hip-Hop to influence listeners back in 06 and rumors of psyops being conducted like that back in the 80's so take that how you will
"A white woman with a weave" I was holding my laugh the whole time till you utter that phrase and i just burst out laughing ...now i am definitely watching this movie
19:22 Holy s**t Im glad Im not the only who picked up Clarence Thomas vibes from the OG Fontaine. Great analysis of this movie. You've gained a follower.
I love weird black artistic media, the representation it holds with neurodiversity and the stories based in reality it shows us. I'm A Virgo and They Cloned Tyrone are my favorites of 2023!
I have been very excited for this movie for a while now. When I found out they were having a midnight showing of this movie at my local theatre before it got put on netflix I had to go see it. It was pretty great. I do understand the complaint about how was a escort, a pimp, and a drug dealer able to uncover this mass conspiracy but it's a personal weakness of mine when some random underdogs are just able to stumble their way through victory through smarts and a bit of luck.
Plot twist; we really do live in a virtual simulation. This gives us clues, the Truman show, the Wizard of Oz, and the Matrix are a few to point it out. The movie "Knowing" shows how everything happens by the numbers. Even science proves matter isn't solid and everything is governed by numbers or frequencies.
Fantastic analysis of the movie. I can tell you really did your research and even have a point of your own to add to the discussion. Looking forward to watching more of your videos.
The interesting thing I’ve found when studying this film is 1. Who’s the “they” in the title . 2. The old Tyrone represents to me sometimes how it’s our own people who sell us out even though they think they are doing so for the “greater good”, because his solution was for unity (which is an innocent desire) however he wanted to unite through assimilation when that’s usually never helpful but unity through diversity is the real power
Saw the movie today and loved your video, some scenes left me speechless and gut ridden like Fontaines first death and his need for a mother help or presence. The film was a shocker with great twists and i have so many questions still
Movies like this give me hope that great movies can still be made. When studios leave them alone and let writers make the movie they want genuine art can be made Loving these black cinema films
This video essay is by far the best one I've seen (if anyone knows any other good ones please lmk) on this movie. All the other ones I've seen just kinda explain all the surface level stuff and don't really do any research or go super deep into their own thoughts, so its just a 10 min synopsis. Just subscribed, loved it
Duggg this film too, especially the performances and the lofi scifi! Great analysis, per usual. Thanks 9NY! Speaking of which-- and you probably get tired hearing this haha (but it's because we luv/respect your takes sooo much)-- when you coming out with a breakdown of Atlanta's final episode, YO?! Dying for it.
Just one of the best films ive seen in the past 5 yrs tbh. It was funny as well as introspective but the elements of horror were what really stood out to me. To have psychological horror mixed with scientific atrocities based in real life made the tone that much more sinister. There were parts that demanded to be taken seriously but the movie always managed to use its comedy to cope with the trauma. Just -chefs kiss- beautiful. Yo yo is my favorite and i wish i could watch her own series of Nancy Drew-esque adventures.
The characters are so damn good in this that I didn't even know that that was the dude from Star Wars until after the movie was over and I didn't know that was the chick from Wanda Vision until just now watching your video holy shit and that was one hell of a fucking movie or something really different I didn't expect anything like that and it totally blew me away from anything I've seen in a while I love that movie that's pretty badass Jamie Foxx was actually enjoyable on this for me
This movie is connected to the Black Dynamite universe, Fontaine is sipping Anaconda Malt Liquor, now I wonder if it had the same effect to blacks as the Dynamite movie had
It’s very obviously an allegory to how the government keeps black communities down but the right wing took this movie and completly misunderstood it embarrassingly predictably
@@ididntaskverified3663so the solution is to ignore, gloss over, hide, cover up etc real history and current ongoings for the sake of "unity"? to ignore that it's happening/happened and not talk about it, is to uphold the very systemic oppression we should be seeking to destroy.
15:56 I have never ever watched SpongeBob and didn't have a clue what that little boy was saying. But I started LMAO when this Squidward walked into a home whose address was 304, and we all know what that stands for on the internet.
but think about it. “really these are the three people that uncover everything”. exactly why they kill n reclone over and over and clear their steps. i think the simplicity fits exaclty in the plot when considering reality
Yeah I get the WHY they are the ones that figured it out. My nitpick is about the how. I was just saying they could have made it more interesting if they actually had to do something special to infiltrate the base and get information. But they really just walked in and out like anybody else could have.
21:19 think the whole point is that the agency doesn't care if some people figure it out because the think they're powerless. the real difference that allowed our protagonists to storm the facilities and expose them was because they got their community to come together, wich the agency thought could never happen. if it stayed just three of them, they really wouldn't have been much of a threat
Thank you for this analysis and explanation of this movie. I didn't fully understand it after watching it a couple of times. Also, I fell asleep on it both times so there's that. But, now I have greater understanding. I think I'll give it another go. I hope I don't fall asleep on it again.
Right off the rip. ha ha "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" = Donald Sutherland "They Cloned Tyrone" = Keifer Sutherland I was really getting "Body Snatchers" vibes from this movie when eventually Kiefer Sutherland showed up. me: "OK, I see you." Of course "Body Snatchers" was a jab at Social/Political brainwashing.
I think with them resolving and discovering everything so easily, it’s a nod to complacency within the community, we very frequently encounter what should be life altering and knowledge of where products our community uses are coming from, who owns them and how harmful they are but we just mind our business and move on
Y'all watch Gravity Falls? Weird synchronicty, in the clone episode Dipper finds a magic photocopier and clones himself. His first clone he gives the name he always wanted but could never pull off Tyrone.
I watched this while I was high the hood I’m from is called Glen Park in Gary Indiana and man life was not easy growing up there I cried when he found out about his mom and I loved this movie thru and thru
Olympia black means nothing, damn. I was doing mental gymnastics trying to crack that, I even somehow linked it to the World Record short from the Animatrix 😆
Yeah I would think the words allude to black exceptionalism given how the word Olympia connotates to the Olympics and the name meaning for Olympia is "from mount Olympus"
Man I wish this movie wouldn’t get lost as just another good movie, the message is so relevant and in our faces.… We absolutely have a genuine problem with brainwashing through consumption rather it’s Music, Food, Vanity, etc…. Upholding “cloned” personalities in our communities…. if we remove the satire, this could be used as an educational piece.
Art imitating life, just be happy that you saw through
the vail. More truth hidden in plain sight as intended. If movies
like this weren't labeled as comedies I don't think they would
be funded
Absolutely
THIS THIS THIS! even with the satire I think it still does a great job of getting an important message across. Ive said it before and I’ll say it again: every Black person needs to watch this movie and really take it all in. Bravo to Juel
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@YAKUILLASIN now im imagining Battleship Potemkin written as a comedy 😂
They Clone Tyrone was the best original movie Ive seen this year.
Same
Have you seen Sorry to Bother You?
@@danilejai7801That's not this year
@@ladalewatson-ch4im I know. I was suggesting it as a similar type of movie if OP hadn’t seen it yet.
Not really original. It pulled from several movies and concepts
This movie is like a great ass black mirror episode
no episode,no tv it’s real life
@@astronxtdooridk about that💀
@@Funcyionnot literally but the themes in this movie are very much true. It’s just massively blatant masked with artistic flair
@@Funcyionare you black?🤨 cause that’s kinda the reason why the movie was made, plus it has real stuff that has happened to the black community
@@astronxtdoor I agree that it refers to real life events💯
The impact and influence that Donald Glover, Jordan Peel, and Boots Riley have had on black cinema is crazy
Don’t forget Aaron McGruder.
Bruh what?! Donald glover?! Jordan peele? They are too new to have any impact and influence. Only guy to have impact besides boots Riley that you mentioned is Jordan peele
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@@vvsvellaire1455 idk about that. And I'm not calling they cloned Tyrone a knockoff when I say this, but there have been a lot of Get out type beat, Atlanta type beat projects since they came out lol. Also Donald Glover was doing Atlanta before Jordan Peele's first movie so he's up there. I really think afrosurrealism became popular in film because of them.
@@vvsvellaire1455They cloned Tyrone is damn near an Us prequel. That’s influence.
It can't go unnoticed that the HQ for the organization was under the church; knowing how important a respite it is within the black community.
Maybe back when kids listened to their grandma. The church is not a respite for the black community.
@7hundred7eventy7 The black church has always been a revered place in our community; both historically & currently--which made it the perfect base of operations for the agency. There are layers of context to that; dressing up misinformation & the guise of "religion" to maintain the status quo is probably one of the deepest nuggets in the film
@@francisko338 yeah like I said- maybe back in the day when we listened to our elders. The church is no longer a pillar of the black community, as much as I want that back.
@@francisko338 if anything the base of operations being the church could be commentary on how empty black churches are now.
@7hundred7eventy7 Yes, there is a generational shift in attitudes; more people are opting for spirituality versus organized religion, but depending on your location (I'm from the south), the black church--for better or worse--still has a cultural vice grip on our communities.
Many people are practically reared in the church, with some of our earliest memories being tied to it. Example, I could probably sing a few words of "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" or any number of devotional songs & typically, any black person within a few feet can finish the lyrics.
Some may even say the church is an early form of brainwashing. Essentially, from birth, you're not really given a choice--you're subjected to an idea & are told what to believe without really asking any questions. It shapes a lot of our opinions, decision-making, & how we navigate through life. I think the movie touches on that aspect & while yes, attitudes are changing about the church, it's still largely a hub for projecting a belief system.
Just like with the perm kits, the chicken, & club music, it's another "soft target" hidden in plain sight, but specifically because the church is so socially/culturally intertwined, I think it makes it more dangerous than all the others. Easier access to spread disinformation; control cloaked in morality. Hence the agency's need to headquarter there.
The scene where Fontaine breaks down his mom’s door is actually the scariest scene to me. The realization that it was all fake stuck with me for days after I watched.
Dude I completely agree I’m so glad I was sober watching that movie it was so damn creepy
I thought she died or something
@@leelee5593 He was a clone & that wasn't his mother. That's why she didn't exist for real
@@oprincesslivie02 me and my girlfriend were wondering did he never think to open the door before then? Like he went all those years without seeing her and just never questioned it?
That person in the bloody clothes walking down the street was the first fontaine. You can tell by the way the second fontaine was looking like he kinda of recognize that person but couldn't tell because they was down the street. Frog saying off to see the wizard again is the confirmation. It's the little things in this movie that made it good have to rewatch to see new points of views.
Facts
Yup! My thoughts exactly and same hoody!!!
I thought the doctor was the guest him; I think the one in the street was just one of the clones
No it wasn't.
@@BigGlockGucci I’m mad this got 233 upvotes and this wasn’t facts lol
The squidward connection blew my mind because it’s so fucking accurate my jaw is on the floor, and it makes sense for them to be the ones to figure it out because the original fontaine + plot armor duh
Plot Armor is soo OP lol
squit ward is the best character in all of ffiction he should not be slander in the video about the movie of black blpeeople called they clones rytone
@@jaidcz9068You doing far too much mere surface lvl focusing it's a problem
“Training day or book of Eli?” was one of my favorite lines lol
You hit all the points. As a 90's kid I'm glad you touched on the Spongebob thing that was so deep, this movie was so good! Also I love the plot of the movie too. It's saying the people are the ones that can make the change and bring down the system. The people of Glen were able to come together, trick the people watching them, and expose the operation. It's a great feel good message and a great showcase of black talent.
This is truly a horror movie. I linked the lack of security in this town as part of the experiment. They showed more than one "Glen". Why wouldn't this be a social experiment as well?
Could be. Either way they were sleeping on that because all of the other towns were exposed too.
That movie was awesome. The plot, the twists, the characters. The Isaac/Fontaine subplot was dope. I love a hood movie and a redemption story. Add sci-fi and I’m in heaven. Only thing missing was a Billy D Williams cameo. Loved it.
Undercover brother did that already lol
@@BlakeAvenue 😂😂😂facts! The ladies man too!
Dont forget the nod to "Black Dynamite" with the "Anaconda" 40oz. Black Dynamite movie was definitely an inspiration to this movie ✨🙌🏽✨
Supa Fly Also
Black dynamite is the FUNNIEST SHIT 😂😂 I first seen it when I was like 17. I'm 33 now, and white lol I try to show any of my white friends it when I can. Lol the end, when he's fighting the Japanese scientist guy, he throws the boomerang knife and it cuts the scientist hand off. Black dynamite jumps into the scene abs says HA! I THREW THAT SHIT BEFORE I WALKED IN THE ROOM!! 😅😅😅 I love it! So many good parts. That one fight when he accidentally for real hits the guy, and he's like MUTHA FUCKA! and it cuts back and it's a COMPLETELY different guy now, not the one that got mad 😂 they didn't give a fuck 😅😅
It's crazy to me that Tyrone's main color is green and teal linking him to squidward and Yo-yo the most opmistic one who never gives up even as she's mistreated by those she works for has the main color of yellow. Y'know like Spongebob. And I guess Slick Charles would be Patrick? Redish pink, closer with Yo-yo, hair that kinda makes him taller like Patrick's pointier head What am i saying
Slick Mr Crabs 😂
another Easter egg is the fact everything has been in front of their faces the whole time but they just look over it like how in the end he sees on tv “clones” getting found and sees himself and the fact him and his friends don’t get the idea he’s a clone also just “ain’t that you Tyrone” shows how oblivious everyone is irl when looking at stuff for instance it might or might not be coincidence Jamie fox had rumors of being cloned before this movie aired and then he’s one of the lead stars in a clone movie 😲
Modern Hood Classic.
I also don’t understand why they would release Fontaine knowingly knowing he was killed the night before and others saw it
Right that’s my question
could assume they thought fontaine would have killed slick about the money🤷🏽♂️play on his stereotype
@124dkg9 ding ding ding. 100%, opps would have been killed and no one would really know except another clone which doesnt matter to the organization anyway
The movie's entire premise counted on people being stupid. The evil secret science people literally facilitated their own failure, the Nixon guy gave away his trigger word which opened the door for anyone to take the suited clone and have the suited clone kill Nixon. Somehow they didn't see that Yoyo hair was a wig despite testing black hair for years through the white dj and hair salon chick. And they had the whole hood monitored but never caught on to two of their clones plotting with a prostitute to overthrow their control. The evil people were stupid and sloppy and the town of the Glenn got very very lucky. That's the movie.
The crazy part,....this movie could be viewed as a practice for the real secret science people controlling everything. The movie said and showed there are other areas like the Glenn around America, maybe the downfall of the scientists and clone lab in the Glenn was just a trial run for if other cities try and make that happen elsewhere. So that then next time the evil scientists won't be as stupid as they were in the Glenn.
I only bring up this theory because of that homeless guy. The homeless guy was basically giving the trio clues throughout the movie like he was a robot or a genie or witch. He basically led them to where they needed to be for the plot to happen, as if he was part of everything and had a purpose beyond just saying some random mutterings to the trio. What if, the scientists were using the trio as a test for how to spot future disruptive personalities and mentalities (Malcom X type people) and then deal with them? The movie ended in a typical fiction fashion, the day is saved (only in that one city tho) and all the clones of the Glenn are freed. But as I watched and meditated on the ending, it felt more like a dishonest conclusion rather than the feel good ending they were shooting for. They won that day but what about tomorrow, what if the Government in that world turns on Black people because of the clones being exposed and they retaliate in all the other clone cities. The movie left me wondering how does a situation like this realistically end, because I know for sure that ending wasn't it. It was too positive, despite the darker implications of the premise of the movie and Tyrone disrupting the old ass clone's story about him and Fontaine being the only ones.
I think a lot of the so called plot holes in this movie can be explained by the organization's hubris. They're so overconfident they don't give a shit. You can see it in the scene where the nightclub chases down the Scooby gang and they just let them go. They don't give a hoot.
I was writing a book with the same twist ending of turning black people white but not with clones😢 watching this made me feel like the Tyrone watching the news at the end
I hope you're not discouraged from finishing. There's a reason why multiple people will have the same or similar thematic or plot points around the same point in time, as it'll usually reflect something that's very relevant in the current times, and is a thought bubbling in the general sub conscious. And that particular one is definitely of current relevance, just considering the current post Cold War dominance of capitalism, and the way it likes to kinda wipe out organic, and genuine longstanding cultures and communities, in favor of trying to form everyone everywhere into an alienated, homogenized sameness in order to make them better consumers, out of a need to fill the emptiness in their lives
That's just on a general level too. There's more specific ways that theme is extremely relevant now, with unchecked gentrification of too many city neighborhoods/communities, and also the way the internet and social media makes too many people all have to follow the same things
@@earlpipe9713 It definitely helped me expand upon what the tale to come is centered around and the events that take place before hand
Bro the insane sound track when Drunk AF can on after Fontaine found out his momma fake was crazy
Thank you for your analysis, a banger as always. That Squidward theory is solid, and I'll rewatch it through that lense. A few points, though. 1. YoYo is meant to be an outlier. She's represents the people in the hood that have the drive and intelligence to recognize the indoctrination but give in "hood circumstances." 2. Sheep were the first cloned mammals, so all you need are key members in a controlled environment, the hood, to clone to shepherd the flock. (Dboy, Pimp, and TD Jakes..er..I mean.. Religious figure). 3. The hair, in several African diaspora beliefs, is where we keep our soul, our power. Its telling that that is the hardest to genetically manipulate. Great video as always, keep going sir!
Zod! Thank you for the input as always.
Thanks for pointing out the white-fros were assimilated, I missed that in real Fontaine’s speech
Thank you for your professional approach to reviewing this movie. I loved it, and was puzzled as to why many of my favorite volgers and video essayist did not have any comments. I'm sure it is linked to the generous use of hood-vernacular and their fear of cancellation as the dialogue is a minefield of the N-word and jokes about hood culture. Still this movie is artfully constructed giving me wonderful Easter-eggs to discover with each re-watch. It's hard to believe this was Juel Taylor's debut film! I look forward to his next offering.
Thank you for watching! It is such a fun movie. I’m glad I finally got the review out 🙌🏾
I love how it was like 50 genres
As a man that is part native American and Caucasian, I honestly think this is one of the best sci Fi films in ages.
Side note: those old tvs were heavy and took a beating
nigga all you had to do was say you liked the movie we honestly don’t give a fuck what you mixed with.
So... people will think I'm crazy, but the government started cloning trials with rats in the early 80's and progressed to larger mammals. By the time they started talking about "dolly" the sheep, they were already testing how they could "modify" or "enhance" the subjects with gene alterations. Not to mention their cross-breeding attempts like the goat-sheep hybrid "geap"... really weird that they stopped talking about it, especially since you can literally clone you pet for $50,000 in China.
Not many people are aware of projects codename: Orion and Gemini
Officially ended in '95 but the ones who ran it likely continued their work. You know the type, they can never really quit their passions.
This movie reminded me personally of Soylent Green (1973) and John Carpenter's They Live (1988). I also noticed that the Preacher looked like Fredrick Douglass and the church was playing Back That Azz Up LOL, I thought it was funny asf and maybe spoke to the hypocrisy of Black Christians
dr umar's final boss
This wasn’t just a movie this shit was scary I can’t even explain but this shit is 100% real
I mean yeah it’s a real movie for sure. 👬🏿
@NineNerdYards I believe that parts have to be real... like the music blaring over those two dudes fighting. They know more than the public about the music "they" release. That, the food, and the action of putting stuff in it to control the people. Also the "control group" idea of a town or a certain part of the country get "special things" in order to watch and see what happens. During covid, certain vaccines were sent to certain parts of the country. And then there were different reactions based on what company made the vaccines. It all seems like things that are too easy for the gov to do.
@@averson7 to give you credit on that declassified documents showed that the C.I.A tried to use Hip-Hop to influence listeners back in 06 and rumors of psyops being conducted like that back in the 80's so take that how you will
I liked this movie, it reminded me of a lot of Sorry to Bother You. Same comedy, sci fi, surrealistic style/themes.
"A white woman with a weave" I was holding my laugh the whole time till you utter that phrase and i just burst out laughing ...now i am definitely watching this movie
I watched this movie, but I wasn't paying attention to the beginning. I appreciate the recap. Had to watch it over. Thanks
19:22 Holy s**t Im glad Im not the only who picked up Clarence Thomas vibes from the OG Fontaine. Great analysis of this movie. You've gained a follower.
Very thorough review. It definitely connected the dots on a lot of stuff for me. By far my fave movie in a while!
I think you have the best analysis of this movie I've seen.
I love weird black artistic media, the representation it holds with neurodiversity and the stories based in reality it shows us. I'm A Virgo and They Cloned Tyrone are my favorites of 2023!
Virgo has to do with this 😅
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I have been very excited for this movie for a while now. When I found out they were having a midnight showing of this movie at my local theatre before it got put on netflix I had to go see it. It was pretty great. I do understand the complaint about how was a escort, a pimp, and a drug dealer able to uncover this mass conspiracy but it's a personal weakness of mine when some random underdogs are just able to stumble their way through victory through smarts and a bit of luck.
Plot twist; we really do live in a virtual simulation. This gives us clues, the Truman show, the Wizard of Oz, and the Matrix are a few to point it out. The movie "Knowing" shows how everything happens by the numbers. Even science proves matter isn't solid and everything is governed by numbers or frequencies.
Why the Chicken Restaurant Manager look like Eminem 😂😂
That’s what I said
Something straight out of an episode of Atalanta
Fantastic analysis of the movie. I can tell you really did your research and even have a point of your own to add to the discussion. Looking forward to watching more of your videos.
Old Fontaine, Fontaine, The Real Fontaine, and Tyrone all being played by John Boyega is crazy
The interesting thing I’ve found when studying this film is 1. Who’s the “they” in the title .
2. The old Tyrone represents to me sometimes how it’s our own people who sell us out even though they think they are doing so for the “greater good”, because his solution was for unity (which is an innocent desire) however he wanted to unite through assimilation when that’s usually never helpful but unity through diversity is the real power
You won me over with invasion of the body snatchers and undercover brother. Litterally said the same exact thing while watching it.
Teyonah Parris and Jamie Foxx made me really like this movie
The "I'm going down"scene is funny AF
Dude great connection. I really wondered what squidward had to do with all of it
Saw the movie today and loved your video, some scenes left me speechless and gut ridden like Fontaines first death and his need for a mother help or presence. The film was a shocker with great twists and i have so many questions still
Movies like this give me hope that great movies can still be made.
When studios leave them alone and let writers make the movie they want genuine art can be made
Loving these black cinema films
This video essay is by far the best one I've seen (if anyone knows any other good ones please lmk) on this movie. All the other ones I've seen just kinda explain all the surface level stuff and don't really do any research or go super deep into their own thoughts, so its just a 10 min synopsis. Just subscribed, loved it
Duggg this film too, especially the performances and the lofi scifi! Great analysis, per usual. Thanks 9NY!
Speaking of which-- and you probably get tired hearing this haha (but it's because we luv/respect your takes sooo much)-- when you coming out with a breakdown of Atlanta's final episode, YO?! Dying for it.
The lights at the motel during the murder were representing the violet fire!
Just one of the best films ive seen in the past 5 yrs tbh. It was funny as well as introspective but the elements of horror were what really stood out to me. To have psychological horror mixed with scientific atrocities based in real life made the tone that much more sinister. There were parts that demanded to be taken seriously but the movie always managed to use its comedy to cope with the trauma. Just -chefs kiss- beautiful. Yo yo is my favorite and i wish i could watch her own series of Nancy Drew-esque adventures.
Yes it was mentioned by some men in lab coats that the hair is a challenge…the skin can be changed but not the hair
Round and Round is literally on my Spotify Playlist.
Your movie's analysis are on point!
The characters are so damn good in this that I didn't even know that that was the dude from Star Wars until after the movie was over and I didn't know that was the chick from Wanda Vision until just now watching your video holy shit and that was one hell of a fucking movie or something really different I didn't expect anything like that and it totally blew me away from anything I've seen in a while I love that movie that's pretty badass Jamie Foxx was actually enjoyable on this for me
This movie is connected to the Black Dynamite universe, Fontaine is sipping Anaconda Malt Liquor, now I wonder if it had the same effect to blacks as the Dynamite movie had
This movie was one of my favorites of recent years.
I just saw this movie myself... love this movie super underrated
u have a really cute sounding voice and i subscribed because of it. [also great video]
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lol 😂 got through another year of not canceling my subscription hahah😂 I feel thattt
Been meaning to check this movie out. Definitely gonna watch tonight 💯
14:28 Fontaine doing the Hip Hop Hood's Loc Dog remembrance Stance 😂
The cloning reminds me of Resident Evil when they find out Alice is a clone of a real Alice.
0:15 your intro made me subscribe 💯
That final Fontaine in the underground base reminds me a little bit of Clarence Williams' character in Tales From The Hood
It’s very obviously an allegory to how the government keeps black communities down but the right wing took this movie and completly misunderstood it embarrassingly predictably
Imagine calling urselves black lol as if u dunno the same publishing company called u negro...afro...😂
As a black community member, How does the government keep black communities down, Mr Jason Green?
@@7hundred7eventy7You clearly haven't learned anything from black history if you have to ask that question rn
You're part of the system, you talking about this in the comments is perpetualing the separation and creation of communities, strength in unity
@@ididntaskverified3663so the solution is to ignore, gloss over, hide, cover up etc real history and current ongoings for the sake of "unity"? to ignore that it's happening/happened and not talk about it, is to uphold the very systemic oppression we should be seeking to destroy.
@NineNerdYards the Thomas reference was water spit out funny 😂😂😂
15:56 I have never ever watched SpongeBob and didn't have a clue what that little boy was saying. But I started LMAO when this Squidward walked into a home whose address was 304, and we all know what that stands for on the internet.
Olympia Black is one of those Glass Onion things haha it’s just sounds cool as hell. Haha
16:40 What does the Foxx say, though? I can't turn up the volume enough, and RUclips's captions didn't catch it.
Thanks for the upload during my September 2023 birthday month!
Happy Birthday!
@@NineNerdYards Thanks! My birthday is going to be on Sunday!
but think about it. “really these are the three people that uncover everything”. exactly why they kill n reclone over and over and clear their steps. i think the simplicity fits exaclty in the plot when considering reality
Yeah I get the WHY they are the ones that figured it out. My nitpick is about the how. I was just saying they could have made it more interesting if they actually had to do something special to infiltrate the base and get information. But they really just walked in and out like anybody else could have.
"Got that new car smell" the old dude knew 😂
The guy selling mixtapes is actually selling them out of the back of his car, not out of the front as the video narrator claims. Have a nice day.
Finally a good ass recap
Let me know what else you would like a recap of!
This is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
21:19 think the whole point is that the agency doesn't care if some people figure it out because the think they're powerless. the real difference that allowed our protagonists to storm the facilities and expose them was because they got their community to come together, wich the agency thought could never happen. if it stayed just three of them, they really wouldn't have been much of a threat
Fire review man you caught all that I seen, my bad Jacob. Great movie
Yes in my city theres a hood called The Glen
Thank you for this analysis and explanation of this movie. I didn't fully understand it after watching it a couple of times. Also, I fell asleep on it both times so there's that. But, now I have greater understanding. I think I'll give it another go. I hope I don't fall asleep on it again.
The homie hyping Isaac up 😂
You better….. 🗣️ 🎶 CLOOO-ONE TY-ROOOOOOHOOOOOOOONE 🎶
all the easter eggs you caught were amazing
That was an excellent presentation.
The greatest to ever do it 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I mean I communicate like that now. I got a SpongeBob reference for EVERYTHING
Right off the rip. ha ha
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" = Donald Sutherland
"They Cloned Tyrone" = Keifer Sutherland
I was really getting "Body Snatchers" vibes from this movie when eventually Kiefer Sutherland showed up. me: "OK, I see you."
Of course "Body Snatchers" was a jab at Social/Political brainwashing.
I didn't even catch that. I guess the 🍎 doesn't fall far from the tree. Good looking out.
I think with them resolving and discovering everything so easily, it’s a nod to complacency within the community, we very frequently encounter what should be life altering and knowledge of where products our community uses are coming from, who owns them and how harmful they are but we just mind our business and move on
Y'all watch Gravity Falls? Weird synchronicty, in the clone episode Dipper finds a magic photocopier and clones himself. His first clone he gives the name he always wanted but could never pull off Tyrone.
12:28 100% of people wouldn't notice it because you can't hear it lol
This was dope 🔥🔥 need more of these
Props on knowing Undercover Brother. There's a lot of Black Dynamite in here too.
MF detroit Ya'kub over here with his 5999 staff at his facility
The hair salon lady is just a light skin, shes not like the white clones we see throughout the movie
I watched this while I was high the hood I’m from is called Glen Park in Gary Indiana and man life was not easy growing up there I cried when he found out about his mom and I loved this movie thru and thru
Great analysis of a great movie 🎯
Bruh im so glad you got a video on this!
21:30 the homeless guy aka frog already knew and was giving hints the the dude
Nah the old guy knew and was dropping hints the entire movie, but he was seen as crazy so no one really listened
Olympia black means nothing, damn. I was doing mental gymnastics trying to crack that, I even somehow linked it to the World Record short from the Animatrix 😆
That’s actually a really cool connection. I love that Animatrix short 🏃🏾♂️
Yeah I would think the words allude to black exceptionalism given how the word Olympia connotates to the Olympics and the name meaning for Olympia is "from mount Olympus"
Good review, but did my guy say, " Bill MERRY in Groundhog Day?" 😂
Lol I was going to re record that part but got lazy. Glad someone called me out cuz I was laughing when editing it.
@@NineNerdYards Sorry for being petty, but it made me laugh as well lol. Very good review!