The glass belly was created by Phillip Haddock back a few years ago, around 10- 12 years ago. I remember that. I know Phil. It is a triple recessive, if I remember correctly. The most recessive you could find in the trade back them was double recessive, he went farther than that. He had a lab and fish room in his house in Canada. He documented the process step by step in one of his Guppy books.
@@wan2shuffle 3 independent set of genes all related to melanin production. Check Phillip Shaddock’s book or google his articles, he explains it in detail. This happened more than 10 years, so I don’t recall all the details.
The male Guppy you highlight is a "Red Dragon" guppy with dumbo ears and delta tail. The females you used are called "Blau" for the Blau gene they carry. Fin shape and size comes from the females primarily. See Ivan's Guppies RUclips Channel for an in depth tutorial on guppy breeding.
While I know what you are saying I was sold the rainbow guy without a good lineage info. He was sold by cichlid exchange as a " rainbow metallic snakeskin ( w dumbo ears)". But the blondes were from a livebearer association member i trust, but i was wondering why some expressed blue and green shimmer and some had orange and red still by f3. So are you saying the guppies from f1. Female were Blau and not blonde? Because if that ends up being correct, it's gonna mess with my plan lol. But I did refer to ivans page also...and i don't want to be giving bad info, so perhaps I can reach out to him. I'm fairly sure the dominance order will still work, but I don't want to have the allele names all wrong...thanks
"Blau" refers to a gene. Guppies that are yellow based or colorless have this gene. Among other things, it depresses red and yellow colors. Ivan can give you lots more information. Good luck.
@@Fishtory The F1 females will carry a recessive Blau gene. Use F1 females with the largest/widest tails and the most color to backcross with the original Red Dragon male.
Thanks for the shoutout! @al20o33 @Fishtory From this video alone, its unclear if the blond guppies have a Blau characteristic. Blau is also not exclusive to blond based guppies. Gray based guppies can also inherit and potentially express Blau. Without seeing a full lineage chart and the distribution of the characteristics in all the siblings from a brood, it'll be hard to say one way or the other. However, if the goal is to restore the characteristics of that male, this method will do it, regardless of what the genes are and how they interact with other alleles. First cross should produce offspring that all look the same if the paired female is homozygous for most of her genes. The first backcross will produce a variety of phenotypes. With luck, this brood should have some guppies that have the gene commination necessary to have the same phenotype as the father, and the next subsequent backcross should solidify the line. Otherwise, another backcross would do it and the goal should be reached. This is a really cool project and good luck!
Love this! I am having a little fun with guppies atm, but I don't have the space to do a proper line breeding experiment. I'm still having fun! I've been enjoying Ivan's Fish videos too, and and I hope to decide on a good book on guppy genetics to buy sometime.
Wonderful and informative video! I love the content you create so much and truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us! Hope you have a lovely weekend friend!
Very interesting for sure! Thank you 🤗 I am a "let nature take its course " kind of fishkeeper. I have never tried to breed for or to remove a specific trait. I may give it a go when I am retired one day. That way I will have ample time to dedicate to a project.
yayyy a new video, ima new sub so ive been binging😭im very happy with ur content im so glad you were recommended im gettin ready to set up a 10 gallon planted for my kids to enjoy and the amount of good info in one place is welcoming!
Oh, ALEX! I'm so glad I watched this video! I thought I had watched it before. I'm working on creating a strain of guppies (I would love to show you the male I am starting with, he's beautiful). I have no idea how to message you other than on here - the amount of computer knowledge I have and the lack of messaging knowledge I possess is astounding. I also have super blonde females that were born from one of my females this past September or October. I am so excited about the fish I have I want to share them! I'll share my chickens and my vermiculture but I'm afraid of sharing my fish publicly. Oh, I'm rambling! Thanks, Alex!
Great video. Very interesting. Keeping Fish Simple made a video i recently saw about fish owners only selling males, so at least with these we have a way to breed our own if we want.
I love the glass belly ones. I got sooo lucky when i got one from my local petco and she now makes little glass bellies I'm excited to cross her with a beautiful male. I have a couple but im looking for that perfect one 😊
Thank you, I love hearing about guppy genetics and I am glad to see so many other people commenting here! Clearly of interest. This kind of selective breeding DID contribute to me currently having 37 aquariums though... 🤭
All guppy breeding info I've seen focuses on the males. Is there any possibility of breeding nice looking females? I'm aware they won't look as good as the males, but if you have only females in a tank, some do look nicer than others. It would be nice to be able to enhance that.
So there are some strains and lines like that, however most focus on males because you sort of have to pick one or the other, the way the genes work out. Which is a bummer... but the orange and red colors translate to both sexes ...so sometimes you will see the red lines having both sexes looking colorful...or black as well
I wish. No there are some Guppy websites if you "Google Guppy punnet squares, or Guppy alleles , Guppy recessive traits, Guppy dominant traits" any of those searches for images on Google. Should return some good charts with the website emeraldking-aquatics.com probably being among the best ones
Alex im having a really hard time keeping a stable shrimp population, over time they die, despite no deaths with other fish in the tank with them (5yo guppy tank colony, but i do loose big females after 12 months or so randomly die on me) any suggestions? my water is low PH due to our location, our rain is filtered through peat. im thinking calcium is the issue?
@koffee3816 yes... add crushed coral or boil some egg shells and crush em in a filter media bag so water is flowing over the shells. That'll fix things in no time, flat. I recommend 1lb of crushed coral or coral sand per every 40gallons
Hi, loved your video. I'm currently crossing a red chested endler male with blue Moscow female guppies. Have you ever done an endler-guppy cross? How did it go?
As long as your perfect solo male guppy isn't a threadfin male... they don't seem to be able to breed due to the threadfin fin gene changing the shape/size of their gonopodium.
So their eggs would need to survive... and it's already rare for them to hybridize. But if I recall sterbai, julii, similis, trilineatus, and aneus are the main ones in the hobby that can hybridize... but don't quote me on that one lol
They can hybridize mostly in the same lineage, you can find a lineage chart online. Panda's and sterbai's seem to hybridize alot, I have seen more than one example of hybrids in community tanks with those.
Hi there! ✋🏼🙂 Please make a video on Reasons why planted tank crash / nytrogen cycle crash. Specifically for nano tanks 5-10 gallons. And how to prevent it. Thanks! 🙂 Ps: I have 3 month old 5 gallon planted tank with 6 endlers. Plants: Pearl weed, salvinia, hydrocotyle japan. No co2, hob filter. Nano air stone, Light running 6 hrs a day no algae. Liquid fertilizer: APT Zero daily.
It's called "nitrogen crash" haha I have a video literally on the exact scenario and subject you just requested. Just search @fishtory along with the search terms on youtube and hopefully that will make any topic ive covered easy to find
I think instead of dominant you mean homozygous. Not sure but that would make more sense because you can’t choose whether traits are dominant or recessive. Line breeding is meant to create homozygous traits.
Yes you are correct ... plus they are often not completely controlled by one or even 2 alleles in guppies...just like cat or dog fur patterns ... sometimes partial expressive homologous alleles have a spectrum of possible phenotypic outcomes or inpacts... like the tiger stripes tabby pattern in domestic cats
los guppies que están en los frascos,tanto hembras como machos,tienen el llamado "nado de tiburón",y esa es una enfermedad,ya que se les nota la cola "pegada".
@@NonAbnormal j. Oliver guppies or moonlight aquatics ( when they import the beautiful Thai strains)... then also aquatic arts... both of which i have discount codes in the description for ...15%!
@@Fishtory great, ty. I think your content is great. I really appreciate the effort to inform and teach ppl aqua related content. I would recommend also doing a vlog style series that gives viewers something to follow. Like going moonlight aquatics and buying a special pair of fish, then once a week you can show how they are doing. People enjoy that IMO. He has recently past away, but if you check out Brian Barczyk on utube. He did a great job of what I'm referring to. I'd go back a year or two for the really good stuff. Thanks again.
How far can they be inbred before you run into issues? Do you just expect more deformities/culls in fry after a certain number of gens? Is it different if you breed them back to their father vs sibling to sibling?
@catalant4161 so it's been a long time but I did a livestream on why in most cases you don't need to worry about inbreeding causing genetic problems...but it can mess up what is dominant vs recessive etc. Guppy genetics are incredible and a Guppy will not spawn with its parents/offspring...unless no other fish are around...and it's been a few weeks... only then do they spawn... they also are able to smell via pheromones, which fish in the tank have the most unique DNA from them...regardless of their relationship to the fish... it just knows which one will be most different...and usually starts breeding with those cousins or 2nd cousins etc. If possible!
Very plain. But, at least one of those females carries a different tail type than the others ;) Female tail color, shape, size, fins and caudal all tell tales ;) Edit: Doesn't have to be secret, just needs to be documented better ;)
Yeah they're still pretty young, and also the blonde males and females were not a super tight line phenotype in the first place, some have nearly Dumbo Ear fins too. Thanks for mentioning jt!
@@Fishtory Female traits has been one of my bigger deep dives. Just not well documented in pictures and such. The subtle differences of tail shape and shade of black is the difference between purple body irridescence with a regular tail and blue irridescence with a shark tail :) I started my French blue colony from 2 males and the plainest fry from my black bar tank. The blue is very dominant. Dominates out body snakeskin and saddleback caudals but can introduce interesting tail patterns like the Asian blau X-linked homocercal with double extension. Basically a double sword lace with a clear middle.
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The glass belly was created by Phillip Haddock back a few years ago, around 10- 12 years ago. I remember that. I know Phil. It is a triple recessive, if I remember correctly. The most recessive you could find in the trade back them was double recessive, he went farther than that. He had a lab and fish room in his house in Canada. He documented the process step by step in one of his Guppy books.
By triple recessive, do you mean it is 3 recessive traits expressed at once? Trying to figure out what you mean.
@@wan2shuffle 3 independent set of genes all related to melanin production. Check Phillip Shaddock’s book or google his articles, he explains it in detail. This happened more than 10 years, so I don’t recall all the details.
Nice! This is basically the method I am documenting on my channel using a snow white strain!
That's awesome! Let's see those snow whites grow!
The male Guppy you highlight is a "Red Dragon" guppy with dumbo ears and delta tail. The females you used are called "Blau" for the Blau gene they carry. Fin shape and size comes from the females primarily. See Ivan's Guppies RUclips Channel for an in depth tutorial on guppy breeding.
While I know what you are saying I was sold the rainbow guy without a good lineage info. He was sold by cichlid exchange as a " rainbow metallic snakeskin ( w dumbo ears)".
But the blondes were from a livebearer association member i trust, but i was wondering why some expressed blue and green shimmer and some had orange and red still by f3.
So are you saying the guppies from f1. Female were Blau and not blonde? Because if that ends up being correct, it's gonna mess with my plan lol.
But I did refer to ivans page also...and i don't want to be giving bad info, so perhaps I can reach out to him. I'm fairly sure the dominance order will still work, but I don't want to have the allele names all wrong...thanks
"Blau" refers to a gene. Guppies that are yellow based or colorless have this gene. Among other things, it depresses red and yellow colors. Ivan can give you lots more information. Good luck.
@@Fishtory The F1 females will carry a recessive Blau gene. Use F1 females with the largest/widest tails and the most color to backcross with the original Red Dragon male.
Thanks for the shoutout!
@al20o33 @Fishtory
From this video alone, its unclear if the blond guppies have a Blau characteristic. Blau is also not exclusive to blond based guppies. Gray based guppies can also inherit and potentially express Blau.
Without seeing a full lineage chart and the distribution of the characteristics in all the siblings from a brood, it'll be hard to say one way or the other.
However, if the goal is to restore the characteristics of that male, this method will do it, regardless of what the genes are and how they interact with other alleles. First cross should produce offspring that all look the same if the paired female is homozygous for most of her genes. The first backcross will produce a variety of phenotypes. With luck, this brood should have some guppies that have the gene commination necessary to have the same phenotype as the father, and the next subsequent backcross should solidify the line. Otherwise, another backcross would do it and the goal should be reached.
This is a really cool project and good luck!
Love this! I am having a little fun with guppies atm, but I don't have the space to do a proper line breeding experiment. I'm still having fun!
I've been enjoying Ivan's Fish videos too, and and I hope to decide on a good book on guppy genetics to buy sometime.
You can still play around and definitely create some beautiful little lines of fish just with a few tanks! Best of luck
@Finkeldinken Thanks for the shoutout!
Thanks, Alex. This information is very helpful for my future project.
WOW! This is deep....I love what Alex does with his fish. Thank You for sharing.
Wonderful and informative video! I love the content you create so much and truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us! Hope you have a lovely weekend friend!
Thanks, Alex, I loved this. You are a star
Very interesting for sure! Thank you 🤗 I am a
"let nature take its course " kind of fishkeeper. I have never tried to breed for or to remove a specific trait. I may give it a go when I am retired one day. That way I will have ample time to dedicate to a project.
Super. Just what I needed. ❤😊
Brilliant upload 👏
yayyy a new video, ima new sub so ive been binging😭im very happy with ur content im so glad you were recommended im gettin ready to set up a 10 gallon planted for my kids to enjoy and the amount of good info in one place is welcoming!
@qweenkaii04 welcome 🙏 welcome! Cmon in, the water is fine...0 ammonia
@@Fishtory 🤣🤣🤣why i subbed exactly
Oh, ALEX! I'm so glad I watched this video! I thought I had watched it before. I'm working on creating a strain of guppies (I would love to show you the male I am starting with, he's beautiful). I have no idea how to message you other than on here - the amount of computer knowledge I have and the lack of messaging knowledge I possess is astounding. I also have super blonde females that were born from one of my females this past September or October. I am so excited about the fish I have I want to share them! I'll share my chickens and my vermiculture but I'm afraid of sharing my fish publicly. Oh, I'm rambling! Thanks, Alex!
Great video. Very interesting. Keeping Fish Simple made a video i recently saw about fish owners only selling males, so at least with these we have a way to breed our own if we want.
@@michaellavella2377 bingo!
I love the glass belly ones. I got sooo lucky when i got one from my local petco and she now makes little glass bellies I'm excited to cross her with a beautiful male. I have a couple but im looking for that perfect one 😊
That was super interesting. Great channel. Thanks! Now I’m late for work.
Fantastic video!!! I'm not sure I want to get this involved because of my age. But it is truly fascinating.
Never to late, never too early ;)
Thank you, I love hearing about guppy genetics and I am glad to see so many other people commenting here! Clearly of interest. This kind of selective breeding DID contribute to me currently having 37 aquariums though... 🤭
Perfect 36 for 4 to 5 generations and 1 qt. Tank! I see no problem 😊
@@Fishtory my @olliethepufferfish tank is 300 gallons tho... 😆😅
All guppy breeding info I've seen focuses on the males. Is there any possibility of breeding nice looking females?
I'm aware they won't look as good as the males, but if you have only females in a tank, some do look nicer than others. It would be nice to be able to enhance that.
So there are some strains and lines like that, however most focus on males because you sort of have to pick one or the other, the way the genes work out. Which is a bummer... but the orange and red colors translate to both sexes ...so sometimes you will see the red lines having both sexes looking colorful...or black as well
Your knowledge is incredible. TY for this education, and for all of the others past and future💗
You are so welcome. Thanks for your support
Sweet Home Alabama *intensifies* Love the gene breakdown, you’re an awesome teacher
Thanks, Alex!
Very cool
What do you do with all the fish with traits you don't want? Cull them?
Usually give them to the fish store... sometimes I'll grow them out in a predatory tank and rescue any that survive cichlids or larger fish
Is there a book on genetics you would recommend? Would love to dig into that.
I wish. No there are some Guppy websites if you "Google Guppy punnet squares, or Guppy alleles , Guppy recessive traits, Guppy dominant traits" any of those searches for images on Google. Should return some good charts with the website emeraldking-aquatics.com probably being among the best ones
Please video horse hair worm in ghost shrimp. I bought 10, now I see a long worm in my tank. Very common ghost shrimp associated issue.
I'll research it! Thanks
@@Fishtory thank yo7n!!!!
Alex im having a really hard time keeping a stable shrimp population, over time they die, despite no deaths with other fish in the tank with them (5yo guppy tank colony, but i do loose big females after 12 months or so randomly die on me) any suggestions? my water is low PH due to our location, our rain is filtered through peat. im thinking calcium is the issue?
@koffee3816 yes... add crushed coral or boil some egg shells and crush em in a filter media bag so water is flowing over the shells.
That'll fix things in no time, flat. I recommend 1lb of crushed coral or coral sand per every 40gallons
Hi, loved your video. I'm currently crossing a red chested endler male with blue Moscow female guppies. Have you ever done an endler-guppy cross? How did it go?
Yes I have! I actually have a super old video of it too. If you wanna nerd out, just search @fishtory endler cross
As long as your perfect solo male guppy isn't a threadfin male... they don't seem to be able to breed due to the threadfin fin gene changing the shape/size of their gonopodium.
Ahh true
Darn it, red scuds must’ve lost last second! I’ve never been too interested in guppy’s but I’ll watch it anyways just for the knowledge
I have dumbo guppies and they always look like they are struggling to swim- the large tail seems to weigh them down
I think it makes them look like they are dancing
I can’t find a good source for the corydoras that cross breed cause I want to keep different corydoras in the same tank but don’t want hybrids
So their eggs would need to survive... and it's already rare for them to hybridize. But if I recall sterbai, julii, similis, trilineatus, and aneus are the main ones in the hobby that can hybridize... but don't quote me on that one lol
They can hybridize mostly in the same lineage, you can find a lineage chart online. Panda's and sterbai's seem to hybridize alot, I have seen more than one example of hybrids in community tanks with those.
quick question, why are the blonde guppies swimming funny, almost feels as if they have some kind of defect.
I don't know exactly other than the giant tail gene...it makes them swim really awkwardly
Where do you get blonde guppies?
I happened to get them from a viewer who lives near by. But usually I'd probably join the American Livebearers association and ask around there
They are cool guppies though.
😂Damn guppies beat out the Red Scuds. 🎉
Can we cross guppy with Molly or
Molly with swordtail?
Painting on a blank canvas.
Hi there! ✋🏼🙂
Please make a video on Reasons why planted tank crash / nytrogen cycle crash. Specifically for nano tanks 5-10 gallons. And how to prevent it. Thanks! 🙂
Ps: I have 3 month old 5 gallon planted tank with 6 endlers.
Plants: Pearl weed, salvinia, hydrocotyle japan.
No co2, hob filter. Nano air stone, Light running 6 hrs a day no algae.
Liquid fertilizer: APT Zero daily.
It's called "nitrogen crash" haha I have a video literally on the exact scenario and subject you just requested. Just search @fishtory along with the search terms on youtube and hopefully that will make any topic ive covered easy to find
I think instead of dominant you mean homozygous. Not sure but that would make more sense because you can’t choose whether traits are dominant or recessive. Line breeding is meant to create homozygous traits.
Yes you are correct ... plus they are often not completely controlled by one or even 2 alleles in guppies...just like cat or dog fur patterns ... sometimes partial expressive homologous alleles have a spectrum of possible phenotypic outcomes or inpacts... like the tiger stripes tabby pattern in domestic cats
Will this also work if you partner the male guppy with a female albino guppy? Afterall, the albino guppies have all recessive traits.
los guppies que están en los frascos,tanto hembras como machos,tienen el llamado "nado de tiburón",y esa es una enfermedad,ya que se les nota la cola "pegada".
I am currently trying to find high quality guppies. Where do you recommend looking?
@@NonAbnormal j. Oliver guppies or moonlight aquatics ( when they import the beautiful Thai strains)... then also aquatic arts... both of which i have discount codes in the description for ...15%!
@@Fishtory great, ty. I think your content is great. I really appreciate the effort to inform and teach ppl aqua related content. I would recommend also doing a vlog style series that gives viewers something to follow. Like going moonlight aquatics and buying a special pair of fish, then once a week you can show how they are doing. People enjoy that IMO. He has recently past away, but if you check out Brian Barczyk on utube. He did a great job of what I'm referring to. I'd go back a year or two for the really good stuff. Thanks again.
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How far can they be inbred before you run into issues? Do you just expect more deformities/culls in fry after a certain number of gens? Is it different if you breed them back to their father vs sibling to sibling?
@catalant4161 so it's been a long time but I did a livestream on why in most cases you don't need to worry about inbreeding causing genetic problems...but it can mess up what is dominant vs recessive etc.
Guppy genetics are incredible and a Guppy will not spawn with its parents/offspring...unless no other fish are around...and it's been a few weeks... only then do they spawn... they also are able to smell via pheromones, which fish in the tank have the most unique DNA from them...regardless of their relationship to the fish... it just knows which one will be most different...and usually starts breeding with those cousins or 2nd cousins etc. If possible!
The best way to breed fish is by not having a family.
I mean, these human kids they take A LOT of aquarium space. One room EACH in the house !
Totally!
@@Fishtory 🤣🤣 I got 2 of em.
Just imagine it's like 40 aquariums right there that I don't have.
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Very plain. But, at least one of those females carries a different tail type than the others ;)
Female tail color, shape, size, fins and caudal all tell tales ;)
Edit: Doesn't have to be secret, just needs to be documented better ;)
Yeah they're still pretty young, and also the blonde males and females were not a super tight line phenotype in the first place, some have nearly Dumbo Ear fins too. Thanks for mentioning jt!
@@Fishtory Female traits has been one of my bigger deep dives. Just not well documented in pictures and such.
The subtle differences of tail shape and shade of black is the difference between purple body irridescence with a regular tail and blue irridescence with a shark tail :)
I started my French blue colony from 2 males and the plainest fry from my black bar tank. The blue is very dominant. Dominates out body snakeskin and saddleback caudals but can introduce interesting tail patterns like the Asian blau X-linked homocercal with double extension. Basically a double sword lace with a clear middle.