Perfectionism vs OCPD vs OCD: What You Need to Know
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2021
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Perfectionism can simply be a personality trait. However, it can also be a sign of obsessive compulsive personality disorder or OCPD. Additionally, OCPD is often misconceived as obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). These disorders are so misunderstood, and the first step in mental health recovery is the right diagnosis.
In this interview, triple board-certified neuropsychologist Dr. Judy Ho and MedCircle host Kyle Kittleson break down perfectionism vs OCPD vs OCD. Here's what you need to know.
In this video, they discuss...
What is OCPD? What are its symptoms?
How is OCPD different from obsessive compulsive disorder or OCD?
Are there any other mental health causes of extreme perfectionism?
What about being “rigid” in relationships?
What are the myths or misconceptions surrounding OCPD symptoms like perfectionism and rigidity?
How can these extreme symptoms affect someone’s relationships?
What can someone with these symptoms do to improve their relationships?
What about the supporter on the “other side” of the relationship?
How can someone spot the signs or behaviors that signal professional intervention may be needed?
And more.
Watch more mental health & psychology videos on every personality disorder and more at MedCircle:
Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD)
Histrionic personality disorder (HPD)
Schizoid personality disorder (SPD)
Avoidant personality disorder (AVPD)
Paranoid personality disorder (PPD)
Schizotypal personality disorder (STPD)
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)
Obsessive compulsive personality disorder (OCPD)
Borderline personality disorder (BPD)
Dependent personality disorder (DPD)
Related: dissociative identity disorder (DID) formerly known as multiple personality disorder
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Is extreme Retroactive jealousy a symptom of ocd or ocpd
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Having OCD is no joke. Compulsions alone if you cannot manage it is exhausting. I'm happy now that I can manage compulsions without medication.
I'm Very happy for your. I'm talking medication for nearly a year. I'm working ERP by my own, and every month I'm getting better. I hope one day i can got off if medication 🏅
for me, its the thoughts that really affect me. But most of my compulsions are mental so thats probably why thoughts are so exhausting
What do you do to manage without medication
@@jeremybadman1164 i wanna know
I’m having ocd for over 10 years with medication but it’s still getting worse….can u share how u recover n get better? ❤
one of the most interesting things about OCPD and OCD is their overlap in the form of what's professionally called "Not Just Right Experiences" ('NJREs'). Which describes exactly what you think-the experience of something not feeling 'Juuuust Right'. And 'just right' isn't a synonym for perfection, albeit there's a lot of overlap.
I know I’m a perfectionist,
but in my particular case I just hate to do things twice, I like to do things right from the beginning so I’m always looking for a way to minimize discrepancies in everything I do, so I study and make sure I know all of my ins and outs before I do anything in that way my life is easier in every level. Having said that it doesn’t mean that if I make a mistake I’m not mature enough to realize that I’m a human and fails are making better to get it right the next time around. This is how my brain operates.
I believe I have ocpd , I have had so many rules since I was a kid about how things are supposed to be perfect, living with other people who disrupt my systems and rules causes a fight response, then I give up and feel anxiety as my world isn’t perfect or to my standard.
I have quit great paying jobs because of the ethical and moral differences.
Another cycle:
1.Being inefficient (wasting time to perfect small aspects or details. )
2. seemingly procrastinating on the project because of tweaking details
3. being late to the due date
4. feeling shame
5. Not submitting school work, or commissions because it’s either perfect or it’s not to be seen by anyone else.
This has plagued me since elementary school, I am now 26. All of this time I thought something was wrong with me, that I had adhd or bad anxiety or depression.
Would most people say that my work is good? sure but if I don’t like it, it doesn’t matter. Peoples opinions don’t matter if it doesn’t fit my standards. I am ready to throw myself out the window if something isn’t perfect. I self isolate, I reject others, I loath people giving me input.
It’s really bad, I think it’s good to have high standards, it’s okay to want better, and now I’m learning that’s not so, and the lack of control feels awful. :(
The executive dysfunction is debilitating.
Living with roommates has caused so much anxiety and I feel so distraught all of the time because I can’t control my environment, I can’t do my laundry in a certain way so I don’t do it.
I can’t find the food I’m looking for at the grocery store so I can make a recipe perfectly I panic and go to 6 stores until I can find one item.
I thought these were normal feelings this is not so. Everyone always say OCPD is labels and perfect rooms but no one talks about when things can’t go your way, and how debilitating and paralyzingly it can be.
I had been wrongly diagnosed with depression as the cause of the paralysis but I think OCPD causing the paralysis is what’s caused the depression.
My therapist told me today she thinks I have ocpd because of all of these negative issues coming from morality issues and perfection issues, and now I’m waiting to be officially diagnosed, after watching this I think it’s highly likely.
i connected with this like crazy
this is exactly me.
Hey. I know it's an old comment, but did you end up getting your Ocpd diagnosys? I have OCPD and your situation sounds very similar to mine. You're the first person I've read that mentions the "executive dysfunction" that comes with OCPD. I too slow down to a crawl, worrying about the smallest details and taking too long to finish tasks. Or sometimes I get so overwhelmed that I delay them endlessly. It's maddening.
I agree I do have a strong sense of right and wrong and I don’t like when someone is mad at me or something because it feels like something that bothers me and I need to have them be okay with me before I can get it off my mind and relax and return back to my comfortable okay state
I have a huge problem with decision-making in many situations
I learned depression is ruining decision making.
Are you sure about that?
I really gain some wonderful insight into the world I am experiencing from Dr. Ho and Kyle always seems to guide the interview in an illuminating fashion, thank you both.
It is self soothing because it’s like if something unexpected happens like financially I need to be prepared for whatever
For some, labels exert a feeling of control of your surroundings. Things like laying out your clothes for the next day helps you feel like you are beginning your next day with some control.
I haven't even listened to the video yet and already super annoyed at all the people in the comments like "omg I'm such a perfectionist everything has to be perfect" like shut up mental illness is not cool, it's not cool for the people who actually suffer. It's not cool to "appropriate" mental illness because you wanna feel included in the "victim mentality" society we live in. Being sick isn't something to strive for or try and brag about for attention.
#OCDistorture
Where are you seeing these cause I sure haven't found any
I try to understand how i developed this disorder, i understood that it started when i was a victim but i still don't understand why and what to do. I'm happy to be able to see these type of free resources to get a bit of education on it because i can't afford anything but bills and ofcourse priority needs.
It’s the best explanation I found so far
Oh my gosh this video is so good for self reflecting! Thank you!!
thank you for talking about this
Dr. Judy is pure goals❤
I always thought I had it very midly since I was a kid. My mom has ocd so I thought it'd be passed down. I used to ONLY go up the stairs on certain spots and I'd go up and down making sure my right foot hit the right spots. I'd also "jump" over cars mentally in the car, and if I didnt something bad would happen. But my life is a mess!!! I WANT/NEED my room and area to be clean but I can't be bothered to actually do it. But it's all gotta be SPECIFICALLY in the right area or it ENRAGES me. Like full on frustrated and irritable
I think we're the same, except for the stairs thing. 😟
i FELT it on the very personal level about the stairs, this is getting kinda freaky
I was diagnosed with OCD {and type 1 bipolar disorder} in 2001. My OCD symptoms started about 10 years earlier after watching a traumatizing movie and believing if I didn't do everything in an EXACT, specific way, the movie would happen to me. Because I can't take meds for the OCD, I've had to learn to cope, but there are certain things I absolutely can't do. My rules are centered on the number 5, or ying/yang patterns, and if I can't follow 1 or the other, it's like a swarm of bees in my brain. Implosion. The worst part is that I know it's "crazy". My dad and brother also have OCD, and my dad was downright insufferable before he stated taking meds. He still has an obsession with time. One thing I'll never forget {from before he was medicated} is him refusing to let me and my 2 screaming infants into his house because "We scheduled you to come over at 2:00. It's not 2:00 yet."
"It's 1:58. It's only 2 f'ing minutes!"
"If it's 'only' 2 minutes, you can wait for 2 minutes."
We argued for 2 minutes. At 2:00, he let me in the house. Imagine growing up with that sh*t. I sometimes wonder if he's on the OCPD spectrum
@@nikolas4347 Because they'd cancel out the effects of my bipolar meds 😕
@@nikolas4347 💓. Yeah, I just had to learn how to cope with it
Omg. I used to do this to my parents, but the reason is bc I had things going on that they would not approve or would be judgmental about. They ultimately stopped visiting. 😬
I met some perfectionists - Some are quiet type but some are simply arrogant - "It is my way or Highway". It is like walking on eggshells with them. Confrontation is just around the corner if you disagree.
"Such a ridged ethical and social moral code that it makes it impossible to dialogue with others" - me.
I have trouble tolerating those who do not agree with my mindset like highly Conservative or racist people.
Very helpful! Thanks!!!
I think we may say “ you’re out of my life” because we have rigid boundaries on what we let affect our life
I have been noticing slight ocd in my life but I've always felt that I like it and want everything to be perfect, whenever I'm gonna leave for the bus I stand there for 8 minutes thinking wether I'm forgetting something but eventually get going. My room is always full of weird things because I feel like I can use those things eventually for something, and sometimes that actually helps since I might have use for them. I also often argue with my friends about things and always want them to understand i'm right... But eh we can live with it and if they can actually prove me wrong then fine.
Well basicly I think I have OCPD even though it's not really severe. Oh well, probabaly helps me since it doesn't cause _alot_ of anxiety ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thank goodness for you darling !.
Imagine living with a parent with OCPD. What kind of a harassed life it would be to have a parent insisting that there’s only one ☝️ right way to do everything. This includes: your sense of identity... So, a child cannot develop a sense of self, in fact their sense of self is invalidated... because from birth they’re being forced into the parentheses of that parent’s standards.
When you say "sense of identity" do you mean your gender?
@@ellebrew719 Not necessarily. I meant everything that could innately be or develop into a child’s personality. Like being shy or outgoing, having certain aptitudes etc. Myself for example, whenever I thought or behaved in a way that my mom disagreed with -not wrong in itself- I was always reprimanded and forced to change. I still live with her. And she’s the same way today. But with therapy I’m learning to separate myself from those beliefs and fight the feedback I still get.
@@lovelyrainflowerfarm I'm a new mom to a 4 year old that's had it pretty rough up until this point. I will say that being a parent is hard, but hearing your point of view makes me question some of the things I've tried to do. I wish you the best, it's really unfortunate to have someone who is so obsessed with order, it's hard for them to live a life that's not in perfect harmony. I say this because that's how I am. I suffer from obsessive thoughts over how things should be, and in the process I turn my life from pretty good but not perfect, to miserable and nobody wants to be around me. It's a constant battle of procrastination and being overwhelmed to losing my temper over something small. I hate the fact that I might affect my daughter like this and you really have opened my eyes to her being her own person and I should allow her own self and personality to blossom instead of trying to hinder it because she's not perfect.
@@ellebrew719 I understand. The good thing tho is that you’re self-aware. You know that this is something you struggle with. That in itself is a big help to your daughter. I think therapy may help you a lot, if you’re not in it already. And I know many people hesitate about medication, but my best friend who has horrible OCD was only able to challenge her OCD after starting medication. I would say, just consider it. But it makes me really happy to see that you’re looking at videos like these and trying to improve. It makes me happy for your daughter as well. It will make the world of difference. I’m so glad we had this interchange. I think it’s helped both of us. I’ve also found that there’s a really good section of articles for parents on jw.org. You may like that. No parents are perfect, and we can’t help the baggage we have. But when we see flaws in ourselves, the best thing we can do is try to improve. I know I’m a stranger but I can’t tell you how happy I am to have heard your story and I am confident you will do well.
@@lovelyrainflowerfarm I don't have to imagine, you just described my mother, and yup, it's hell. Up until my teens, she'd control the clothes I'd wear, I couldn't touch them inside the closet, I couldn't touch stuff inside my bathroom's cabinet, she'd pick my nail polish colour, I'd change an object in MY BEDROOM, from one shelf to another at night, only to see it back to its former place when I came back from school, my personal objects over my desk neatly piled up the way she liked, she'd go through my stuff, wouldn't allow my room to have a key, criticised my friends who weren't popular enough, or my introversion... I internalised so much of my anger and frustration that it numbed me to the point of depression as a teen. Sought therapy at 17 and it helped a lot, on how to build my defences and not be so affected. I still live with her unfortunately, but planning to leave soon, and though I've learned to deal with it better, she's only got worse with the years. Doctor Judy's advices don't work. She's so deep into her own world view that she can't accept she's been a bad mother or hurts me, and any mention of her ways makes her go full defensive mode. People with OCPD don't respect boundaries or other people's world view. And even though deep down they (unconsciously) suffer with their dependency on so much control, it's not up to you to fix them or convince there's something wrong with THEM; save you energy to your healing. Every day is a constant battle to achieve a level of dignity that most people take for granted, and that can drive anyone mad. Advice? Move out as soon as you can, even if it's to a tiny studio flat; get your own space, and once you do, establish boundaries, don't give in to emotional blackmail (they do that). It's the only way to become your own person and effectively break the enmeshment.
It’s gotten to the point where if I have $436 I can only spend the 36 because if I spend the full 400 I won’t have money to pay Bills and gas which is true, but once I get to 400 then I can spend $99 and then I would still have 300 in my account and if I feel like I don’t have enough then I’ll have to wait till my next check so I literally limit myself but it’s frustrating because I can’t spend my money but I’m worried about not having enough money.
This is so me!! It's so frustrating 😫
same! wow.
I know a few narcasists with ocpd. At least one is not capable of love but I don't want to believe that of most of them.
i have both ocd and ocpd althought i am not miserly, i no longer am a perfectionist but i def make so many lists that i dont get the job done, and also i wont allow myself to have fun if my house isnt clean and then i get ocd with cleaning
Love Dr. Judy
I remember this one girl at my school who kept treating ocd as an emotion. When she starts arranging her pencils she'll go "I'm feeling so ocd right now" and no, she didn't have ocd. She was really messy the only thing organized was her pens and pencils.
I hate it when people do that, it’s like a trend know with multiple disorders.
It’s ignorant.
Too extreeme is the word. Great points.
everything for me always needs to be in order. It becomes obsessive and I’m rearranging my room twice a week because it’s “messy” which is what everyone else says, anyways. I swear- I will actually start crying if someone moves something a placed somewhere an inch to the left. It just bothers me so much for literally no reason. I thought I had ocd before, but I realized that my symptoms align much more with ocpd. I’m still not sure, I haven’t been diagnosed. I might just be a big perfectionist. who knows.
symptoms in a nutshell:
I always try to lead everyone in group settings and want everything to be my way or it’s not happening!
Everything must be in perfect order in my room, I do check ins every few hours and move things.
All of my outfit has to match or I think I’m ugly.
If I ever get a B in school, don’t expect to see me again, the teachers might have stolen me and forced me to eat food out of a dog bowl in the school basement
and everyone is always like “uR sO oCD XDDDDDDD” like I’m not shut up.. I’m probably just a perfectionist who’s being dumb.
I remember I had a strict teacher, I think only I noticed this trait of hers, that she was fixing misarranged desks and chairs once, she moved each one a few times until they were perfectly alligned and I was just jaw dropped...
You're not being dumb. I would honestly recommend going to a therapist or a psychiatrist who can give you an official diagnosis. And whether you have an illness or not, a therapist might be able to help you better understand your symptoms and experiences and where these emotions, thoughts, urges and behaviorisms are coming from. A therapist might also be able to teach you some skills to help improve your symptoms and relieve any overwhelming feelings like stress, anxiety, fear, frustration, sadness or any emotion that you experience leading up to these moments and during them as well. It could also help with the way you interact with other people and with your relationships with the people in your life. By better understanding your own symptoms and experiences it might help you be able to explain where you're coming from or why you do the things that you do so that they can understand you better and at least be more aware of how their actions might negatively impact you and trigger your symptoms but also how they can help you in these situations too that is if you feel comfortable talking to them about this of course. Anyway, I hope you're doing well and taking care of yourself.💗
Actually .. about the part with the crying, you're so similar with me.
I'm not sure about myself also, I have both the symptoms - crying, extreme perfectionism, and having everything my way(but only with objects, having it my way doesn't apply for people, for some reason.)
But there's a big thing to it, and that's why I think I have OCD. It's always like "If I get that tea bag instead of the one I hold rn then I'll will be successful in life", "If I do this rn, then I'll get *something I would want*". Not like I feel guilty for it, I don't have anxiety or depression, no thoughts of being inconvenient to other ppl(I usually have the obsessive thought only when to myself , maybe I'm not just that focused and already relaxed). I was managing it until this school year started. Bruh.
It’s like we’re the same person. My symptoms align with yours.
Heavy on that last part. “You’re so OCD” is such bs.
Oh how I wish I knew of this as a young adult!! I've got it bad and got it from my dad. It can be a curse at times and also a gift on a few occasions however it's really hard at times :(
This is a great video. I never knew I was O CPD. But I knew I was not OCD.
Same
I was listening to short clip you put of Dr.Ramani. Type of OCD of checking doors and keeping things in order is different from avoiding a certain places or people more to do with some complex trauma.
I get so frustrated when I'm obstructed from achieving stuff and I jus can't get my mind off it, sometimes it makes me feel so depressed and I wanna start all over, and at the same time don't wanna hurt other ppls feeling wen it gets in the way of thier happiness,.... This is wen it gets messy inside my head 😥
I just lost my final friend due to me being so strict when it comes to work. I got him the job, and I expected him to work productively. I WAS SO WRONG. I don't feel bad about the fallout. He wasn't really a great listener looking back. Then again, I now understand why I get SO. DAMN. ANGRY when my coworkers don't work constantly. I've called/texted my boss so many times to inform him that I CANNOT WORK with people who don't work. I feel so uncomfortable at work now because everyone knows everything about what I've gone through with my Ex friend, and an ex-fling I had at work.
For the last 3 months I've been constantly adding to my blog and searching for a way that my business takes off, while figuring out how my relationship ended so fast, yet I don't do anything.
Good video
My case manager mentioned how she thinks I have both bod and ocpd . But tbh , I believe I'm just a perfectionist .
My mum is definitely OCPD ! All he'll breaks loose when something isn't done her way
I don't know if I have a condition, but I have a thing about counting I use to count my costs over and over , I can watch the same you tube video over and over to make sure I haven't missed anything,
Question: what happens when they don’t get their way?
I’ll draw my situation as an example who was not diagnosed with any of the above.
I live in a house I’m not comfortable in. I don’t get a chance to organize how I would love to so I got frustrated for a very long time. Since nothing can be my way how I imagine it, my whole apartment is a mess. I’m very messy when things can’t go my way and don’t have a motivation to fix it because I know it won’t be my way.
I feel you with the wanting desperately to make my room perfectly clean because, if it isn't, I can't do anything. But I just don't have any motivation to actually do it and end up avoiding it. It sucks :'c
I relate! I procrastinate *a lot,* because am afraid am gonna fail it anyway!
I have OCPD, and all other personality disorders in cluster C. I relate exactly the same way. Very messy since I’m not comfortable in my home.
@@nellajoensalo2316
That’s exactly what I do as well. I’m slowly started to understand my own mind.
I definitely have aspects of OCPD, and I know that it's affecting my kids, especially my older one, who has been stool withholding for months :( I can definitely function in society, but the anxiety is overwhelming sometimes (ie. staying up late looking for 1 missing puzzle piece. Drives me crazy!!! I lose sleep over the most stupid littlest things).
Wow can we talk?
Cant wait
OCD pure obsessive is very hard to deal ☹️
I don't see anything wrong with my outlook and approach to life. I think the world is wrong and that should make much more logical sense. I can understand emotions, but I don’t understand people. I may miss certain expressions and react to things opposite as expected. I like rules that make sense. I like standards that make sense. I like facts. I have been this way since birth. I got diagnosed in college. It feels impossible to function like others on most days. I'm not mean but I find it increasingly difficult to get along with people. I don't think talking is necessary in certain situations. I am opposed to most social norms, because I think they are stupid, pointless, and wrong. I hate being the opposite of everyone else, but I don’t think my way of existing is wrong.
same here...
sounds like autism.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you feel like everybody else has the maturity of 6 year olds while you are the one being an adult doing adult things? That's what an (undiagnosed) OCPD friend told me. He gave out lots of deliberate silent treatments while being extremely sensetive at receiving silence/ghosting. I originally thaught he was a narcissist but, narcissists lack any sense of responsibility while my friend did seem to be responsible and competent. Just mediocre at being a genuine friend. So I along with my other friends distanced ourselves from him.
As long you buy a lot of cats you’ll be fine
I was today years old when I was told I had OCPD, which I wouldn't have guessed because the ADHD destroys any routine I might try to stick to, and the depression makes me not care about anything. I just hermit and hoard stuff that doesn't make sense, often in little piles. When I stop and look at what my life has become, I feel like giving up and crawl into my bed for days.
I hope you'll find peace.
I have this same issue. How do you/are you coping with it?
I had ocd. I forcefully started living in a messy way. Now it's almost over. But it's still there. And my life is not perfect. Which still makes me anxious.
On top of "I might need this item later", there's an inability to get rid of old or worn out objects. I feel like I struggle with figuring out what is most ethical way to get rid of something - not everything goes in the trash.
I identify myself having OCPD (not officially diagnosed) but I have a strong tendency to shove people out of my life if they don’t meet my “standards.” For example, I have left my partner on a several occasions (who I desire to marry), and wanted to quit my job (a job that I actually love) for the SOLE reason that my partner / coworkers are not “perfect.” I start to feel stressed and anxious whenever we make mistakes, have an argument, etc. This has hurt me and my relationships throughout life. Perfectionism haunts me
I was diagnosed with OCPD bit more than half a year ago and it's really helped me recognize things with the help of my psychologist. If you feel like you MIGHT have it (or anything else), the best thing to do is contact your GP and ask for a psychological check where a professional goes through various questionnaires and interviews with you to find it what it is.
I did that last year because I felt burnt out all the time and after our analysis, which took about 5 months of questionnaires and interviews, I was diagnosed with ocpd. Luckily, it was just on the border, meaning I had the minimum amount of symptoms for it to be called ocpd. So it means it's not as intense as people who are way further down on the spectrum but it still affects my life a lot.
I don't completely agree with the comment you got that it's hurtful to read this but I do believe that for your own good, self-diagnosing is actually harmful for yourself. I say this because before I was diagnosed, I thought I might have had narcissism or autism because of my "self-serving" patterns and rigidity. Turns out I had this thing called ocpd that I had never heard of.
@@SporeShay Your response is really helpful. Thank you. I agree with you, there are trained experts on this. Using correct terminology is important for helping us get to the root of our issues. However, I do believe that any doctor can misdiagnose. My ultimate counselor is God 🙏 And my mental is no challenge for Him. Stay blessed
@@SporeShay Also, the previous comment I got about this being “hurtful” is confirming the fact that person has a condition to overcome. Which is no one else’s problem except their own. I have unresolved trauma from my childhood, that causes me to avoid painful memories (triggers). Not perfectionism in my case, so I was totally wrong about myself but that’s the beauty of learning.
@@SporeShay - Narcissists can’t self-reflect, they are emotionally immature and are conveniently able to not remember the ‘bad things’ they’ve done to others.... but they will remember, down to the last detail, the smallest thing that their partner or anyone else has ever ‘done' to THEM.
So I highly doubt that testing by a ‘professional' will pick up most persons with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I’ve seen my ‘ex’ during our therapy sessions together..... and he’s a completely different person in the sessions than he is at home. And again - NPDs have literally NO MEMORY of the hundreds of abusive or negative things they have done or said to anyone! And so as they have no self-awareness, they can easily pass ’tests’, and do really well in those sessions.....
@@beautifuldayzee5942 Curious, have you seen any improvement in dealing w/ a narcissist? If they can’t self-reflect, is there hope? Obvious answer is they need a desire to change, but your sharing is invaluable.
OCPD with CPTSD here! Yeah.. We are lovable ppl if you are willing to cope with our sh*t ✌️
Me and my partner had a fight recently. He did laundry, but some of the clothes weren’t dry. I messaged him about it, because I already explained it has to be dry, otherwise it will stink and I get anxious when I wear and smell it. I did not mention all these to not get into a fight, because I notice it’s ridiculous. He knows I’m aware of myself when my mental health acts over me.
Then, he said “put febreze on it” and I just flipped. I got so anxious and angry because I told him so many times stink and deodorant does not solve it.
I told him how it makes me anxious to think it mixes together and if I wear it I can’t stop thinking getting on my skin and the damage the chemicals will cause on me.
We had an hour fight. I went from febreze to my mental health. He kept saying he doesn’t agree with this and I got more and more frustrated. I told him when he doesn’t agree not to bring it up because it will make me go crazy.
He doesn’t know how to help with problems like this, but I teach him certain things so I don’t flip on him.
Btw... I don’t know if this is a trait of ocd or ocpd because my therapist says I’m normal and there is nothing wrong with me. Everyone else says I need help tho. I don’t know what’s right and wrong anymore.
Yes, you definitely need anger management help. If your OCD gets worse, your fights will be more frequent.
@@face-diaper is this ocd tho? I mentioned in the end I wasn’t diagnosed with it
girl you’re fine !! I’m the same way as well 😉
it could be mama. bring this scenario up to your therapist. my boyfriend has severe OCD (when i first met him he was malnourished from not eating, as he was afraid if he ate food he would choke, so he starved himself). in your case, it sounds like it could be contamination OCD. OCD is debilitating & can progress in its severity. i hope ur therapist listens to u. ❤️
Maybe you have Cluster-B personality disorder! 🙄
To get angry at a supposed loved one because of something so trivial, smh! Perhaps you need REAL, PAINFUL, EXTREME SUFFERING...to help put your plight into prospective. Think about it. Smh.
I feel like, with the clip of Dr Romani explaining the difference between OCD and OCPD, that OCD is more an obsession over objects and procedures whereas OCPD is more of an obsession over social propriety.
Basically if anybody's parents are in their 60 or 70s, search no longer - OCPD generation 😂
To Extreet The World's Greatest Point.. Yeah Thank You.. Wonderful Point.. ocpd...
I tried the appealing to the ocpd individuals better nature but what wasn't mentioned in the video is that a lack of empathy can stop that approach from working
broo i have no idea what i have but sometimes i make so many goals and then somehow i can't meet those goals and then my mind gets so frustrated where i just start over everything like my whole work process and so i don't get anything done
like if i say im supposed to study this subject but then i think about how much time i've wasted even though I'm somewhere in my studies, I'm gonna start over because i wanna finish in a good time frame
it's so weird for me
even if I ask my parents to get me something, and if they reject my request, I get so angry inside and then i kind of break down mentally just because it doesn't goes as planned because I make a mental note of everything I want to achieve and they are in order so whenever i can't get through a goal, then I feel like nothing else is achievable
really hard to explain but yeah
I have very specific types OCD but I can't really explain... It's like I absorbed people's energies and expressions and the way they talk and then my body completely rejected it, so I can't do anything I like because I feel like I'm in their bodies, it's like I have no personality and just borrow from others but then my organism hates it cause it doesn't feel "right" to have other people's mannerisms in me
its not the most obvious but i would like to remark my ocpd in the real of morality manifests in debilitating self-policing, since control is a big factor in the disorder i cannot reconcile my responsability over my own actions with my unrealistically high expectations for any given action :/
I think I might have OCD, whatever it is it makes my life so much harder, even brushing my hair and it's been getting worse this year. I found out about what OCD is this summer soon after it got so bad, that I spent at least a minute closing my door and having to ask others to close my door for me, walking up stairs is just weird, same with writing, I also remember I brushed my hair and washed my hands at least 6 times a day, now It stopped but other things got worse now. I'm scared to move things just cause I'll struggle with putting it back the way I feel it's symetric, a bottle of water for example. I'm working on whatever it is and for now I just scratch(like actually scratch so it hurts) my hand everytime I feel that weird thing.
That is so crazy you say that about how lining up a plate in the dishwasher because my dad has certain ways about him about putting things in the dishwasher and this and that way to do things I kinda developed this from my dad I think and I remember his sister saying to me like oh your dad is so rigid about the little ways he does things around his house made it difficult to live with him and I just thought they were normal especially because I started doing these things too at my moms house everyday
My parents are also dishwasher nazis….they would empty it out and re pack the whole thing
Do you have physical ritualistic compulsions? I wonder if it’s possible to have both OCD and OCPD
How does having an OCPD parent affect their child's self-esteem? I am pretty sure my mom was on the OCPD spectrum. I rebelled and thought "why do you think your way is 'right'?" I think having a parent with OCPD sowed doubt in myself such that I avoided leadership positions in my career as I gave authority to others as I did not have the internal confidence to in my own decision making and didn't want to be criticized or blamed if something didn't work out perfectly. On an overt level in the home environment, I rejected my mother's attempts to teach me certain skills, for example, I would not participate in cooking, as I couldn't stand having her hovering and tell me exactly how to cut carrots. And that led me to reject any input from her into life skills in general, as it was never a conversation, just a lecture, and I wanted to learn things on my own terms and in my own way, not from her self-righteous and rigid principles. Then I had kids myself and took the opposite approach. When my daughter was in her 20s she said she felt I didn't teach certain life skills, saying that if I had given her more advice, she might not have avoided challenges or mistakes she felt she made. I realized that I was trying to avoid the animosity from her that I had felt for my mom, as I believed that kids generally don't want advice from their parents and want to make their own decisions and learn on their own. And now as an adult of 64, I realize that many of the challenges that I have had in my life are due to my own OCPD and the anxiety that arises from it.
Ocpd checking in
Ms. Ho looks so much better with that hair color.
I have it, its been decades. Its awful.
Not surprised this existence would allow this form of suffering.
I can only wait to pass the moment and have a bit of resting time.
She’s so pretty 😍😍
Psychology queeeeeeeeen
She reminds me of julia sasaki
Omg I line up everything in my house a specific way and if someone should walk in my house and touch one thing I can tell you what was touched. I alway think I was organized but mmmmmm i dont know now,,,, I pay keen attention to finer details little things I just do it to stay safe and to have thing organized,,, if things are out of place I go insane easily...sigh
I loathe being disrupted when I'm deeply involved in a project. Why?
I think that aligns more with symptoms of ADHD.
Do OCPD people tend toward shallowness and emotional regression, or am I off on that?
Somebody has a crush on the Dr. Doh 😍
Can someone with OCD change to excessive cleaning to not cleaning at all with no motivation to do anything
Yes. It is common for someone with OCD to change compulsions and/or develop depression.
@@Steph-yz4tn 😬
I'm really confused right now... people are calling me perfectionist because i don't like other's touching and moving my things, and even small detail that i don't like really bothers me and it will irritate me every time I glance to it, Am I really a perfectionist?? 😣
It's destroyed my joy in games. I can't haphazardly have fun anymore.
@@nicholasn.2883 not so much the best but more like trying to make the perfect character or world
For example when i play minecraft i make a foundation for my housing because i get upset when its got random blocks under, and when i mine i cook cobblestone and place stone over any uneven surface, or replace blocks that aren't stone, each game is different.
I’m the same if I mess up anything the whole game is ruined for me, if I’m reading dialogue and miss a word I have to read the whole sentence again multiple times if I can’t get it right, I have to play what I consider perfect in my head it’s totally affected my enjoyment of games and I find myself not wanting to play much anymore because I know it will make me anxious, gaming used to be my escape now it’s just another thing that makes me feel bad
@@DynastyHeroesI've been playing Okami recently
Could you tell me when this OCD intrusive thoughts condition first happened did it come out of nowhere?
What are your thoughts about do you mind sharing?
Where you vegan at all when this happened?
I'm in Fresno CA and I am being harassed because of this condition.
Idk, seems like it's been here forever
Idk how to explain this better but I think narcissistic people may try to convince someone that they’re wrong I just know I like things like thi
Is it possible to have both OCD and OCPD? I def have some OCD with compulsions but seem to have demonstrated some behaviors from OCPD.
it very much is!
@@paarmitashukla thanks. Recently learned about tourettic OCD (TOCD) and it is fascinating how the overlap of Tourette’s and OCD can be so similar while trying to differentiate between the causes and experiences between the two.
Human mind is so interesting
What if you have all the thoughts extra… but you don’t act on them. Ex. “I need to shut the door. I need to shut the door. I need to shut the door. I need to shut the door. Wait did I shut the door. Did I shut the door. I should just break it. No I shouldn’t. I’m not going to get up. I’m not getting up.”
I think 🤔 my x husband was both if that's possible.
Did anyone who commented notice a typo or error in their comment, delete the posted comment, and repost it with the edit/correction?
aagh just hearing about things being out of symmetry is giving me anxiety. this sucks
I know someone who claims to have OCD but is actually lazy and half assed when it comes to what they do. They only require perfection from others. I actually think she is a convert narcissist who hides behind the concept of OCD. How do I prove it?
Has anyone tried hypnotherapy for OCPD? I am afraid that I may have this because I have somewhat crippling spending anxiety: I have the money to move on with my life, but I'm so paranoid of renting a place of my own that seeing $2,000 leave me in 1 month equals 100% of my money gone in my mind. Even years of saving and doing nothing has handicapped me out of enjoying things like a vacation or traveling for personal pursuits; I don't leave my house unless it's for food or I'm getting paid to work somewhere.
For example - last year, my car was vandalized when I was on a roadtrip after renting the cheapest airbnb I can find so I could catch-up on work. The vandalism set me back another 1k, so I immediately drove home as soon as the car was back in my possession - I didn't take anyone's advice to go enjoy driving somewhere else and trying to enjoy my road trip. Now, I'm back at my parent's house and it's been a year since that "budget" road trip gone awry; In my head, I can't go on a roadtrip without being a target for theft now.
I am trying to take more risks with myself lately; I am currently trying to invest into a product I thought of that I want to sell, but in my head I don't see the profits yet and so I'm halfway given-up on something I've only given to a few people who claim it's a great thing that can go really far. Again - perfectionism, I needed that item to be ABSOLUTELY perfect before I were to even create it or show it to anyone.
Years ago, I did hypnosis for anxiety; I didn't even know I had anxiety and it truly changed my life for the better; at one point, I felt like I "graduated" from hypnotherapy, but after a recent failure I experienced with work, I feel like I'm back to where I began; feeling inferior to the narcissists who extract all the money from my hard work for themselves and leave me with nothing, not able to move out of my parents house as a result of how little I earn for being so kind to everyone. Not earning enough to say my working was ever "worth it" - and all I do is keep saving and avoiding spending to do something to improve my personal life. Life is just work work work work work for me and it hasn't been any different for over 10 years now. I only get calls from people if they want something out of me, and I have the midas touch where everything I create - the end result of me, will always be the only thing people value - they don't value me as a human.
This is why I want to know if there is a hypnotherapy I could do to help me control these avoidant urges fueled by my work-related PTSD of constantly falling victim to peoples scams, and how do I get myself out of my parents house without losing my mind over the expense? I feel like my girlfriend broke up with me a year ago because she was upset about my spending anxiety as well, but I did feel a relief because I walked away from the costs associated with how much I was spending while living with her (and she was the greatest; she had me live with her and didn't ask for anything in return; I did try to help as many ways as I can, and she was more-so understanding and could cope with my anxiety).
I believe the tweaking of my mindset through hypnotherapy is what I need -- not years of talk therapy or years of counseling or years of coaching. I admit that when I did hypnosis one-on-one with a certified professional the room, I literally "woke up" from how many bad patterns I fell into with narcissists. I just don't know what to do about the narcissist within me who prevents me from being my best self.
If anyone has suggestions, I would love to see if there's a title of a youtube video I can look up, or if there are any other things I should research to address this issue. I want to be free, I want my parents to have their first step out of the chains of covering me. I want to help my sister because I feel like she suffers in a similar way as I do.
An example of someone with OCPD is Sheldon Cooper in the Big Bang theory.
And we love him 😛
I will order her book shell by size and colors and I will make sure they are not tilted ... It was bugging me this whole time how the picture frame wasn't aline with the camera cut... The randomness of the LED lights bugs me, Ik it is intended to be random but idk it bugs me. Boyyyyy her eyebrows, I don't mean to be rude or offend her they are just wrong and not equal. Here is the thing, thoughts like this won't ruin my day but it will bug me in the moment, probably like 10% out of 100%. I don't think I have odc but I find it hard knowing that I check things like four time and still feel like it ain't right after 2 mins and I feel the urge to go back and check again. Is that me being perfectionists or there is something else wrong with me. Im not a germaphobic tell you that. I do clean my computer chair when people sit on it with outside clothes. This is not because Im afraid to get sick but because I know in the back of my head is dirty and if I sit on it with clean clothes it will now be dirty. Please my intention is not to offend anyone or make them feel bad, I just need answers.
Ok.. so I can be in the doctor's office and HAVE to fix pictures on the wall. Be at work and organize cans to the EXACT.. Always be thinking about work and dreaming about WORK. My way is always the right way and I tend to convince others that. And it is the right way.. ha.. I have learned to just do everything my way. Washing my clothing twice.. showering compulsively.. But sometimes this is just a GOOD THING--♡
@Gabriel Trent Eh.. she's fine w it. She knows I'm a control friek-- ha
It's genetic Kyle!
Um it can be sometimes
In my opinion, a perfectionist is making efforts to get his work perfect. On the contrary, OCPD people make efforts not to make their obsessions show off.
I think the biggest difference is that ocd knows theres something wrong
Hmm...
This sounds like both of my parents and I have OCD/OCPD lol
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Is it possible to cure OCPD without therapy?
It's very rare for mental diagnosis to ever be fully "cured" especially without professional treatment. You can find healthy ways to cope, but it won't be as helpful as the real deal
Vipassana will.help u to cure any mental negativity.Vipassana meditation is a form of meditation which helps us to purify the mind from the negativity that we have inside..the technique is truly life.changing i will really recommend it to everyone should is reading this comment
there are many vipassana meditation centers around the world
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Not sure if im a perfectionist, but whenever I have a idea to draw something and it doesn't come out how Imagined it, im depressed haha.
These people have no idea what it feels like to actually suffer from OCD. It’s crippling.
Absolutely horrible people to make the happy lives of others hell.
All of it is me omg my life
She literally said that you can't watch this and say that lmao
I think ocpd people tend to become a ocd patient
Ocd people that have to have things their way is no fun. I understand it's just how you are but it's not right to make others be like you.
Is OCPD related to Autism?