Agility Shortcuts: RuneScape's Biggest Lie
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Agility shortcuts are one of the coolest benefits of any skill in the game. So I tested every single one of them to find out if they are actually shortcuts, or if Jagex has been lying to us this whole time.
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Agility was released in 2002 in RuneScape, and with it came Agility shortcuts. To our young minds, shortcuts were really the only reason we would ever train agility. So why, then, did Jagex decide that all shortcuts in the game (for the most part) would be so bad?
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Disappointed to see an AI image generation sponsor when the only way they make images is stealing from artists.
mith grapplehook is needed for gwd armadyl section that's about it's only use
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AI art is art theft, do better, Idyl
the kalphite queen shortcut requirements are actually egregious
Wait, so you don't want to kill the KQ 250 times at 2-3 kills per trip to unlock a shortcut to never kill the KQ again?
I watched this whole video hoping he would rag on the kq shortcut
All the reqs for a shit tier boss
@MrFair 1493 never
@MrFair 1493 How dare you question such a community meme, it's a rite of passage to have your time wasted by Soup.
If the Catherby Grapple shortcut went both ways it would be useful.
Yea maybe too useful lol. It’s right next to 2 orb chargers. Id imagine a really high agility requirement for it
@@Barrie96 that would be the kind of shortcut you want with 99 agility and be behind an elite diary reward..
@@jawstrock2215facts. Prevents bots and is good for the Economy.
I need this Qol update
To be fair, it’d be weird from a worldbuilding standpoint if there *wasn’t* a “normal” way to get to the elven lands. If the underground pass is the only connection between the elf lands and the rest of gielinor that has some odd implications.
So even if Arandar is useless I’m glad it’s there is what I’m saying.
Agreed, but uhh why not just make the path a straight line? Instead of adding a really long path with mostly useless shortcuts.
@@zachariahhowell4342 I mean, there’s a whole mountain range separating the elf lands from the rest of the continent. A straight line right through would seem weird wouldn’t it? A winding mountain pass is inconvenient but more in-line thematically.
I think its main purpose was to be a way out for people who went there but didn't bring a teleport, so they don't have to go back up the underground pass at the end of Regicide. Home teleports didn't exist back then.
port sarim.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 boats arent always viable methods of transporting goods
"No one crafts cosmic runes this way anymore" *Nervous sweating*
I used to craft runes there until I realized the existence of the abyss lol
Each time I tried a good looking agility shortcut for the first time, my initial reaction when clicking them was "I cant wait to be told I can't use this one due to diaries!" and I was very often not proven wrong.
I feel like an overlooked aspect of shortcuts is saving run energy, considering stamina pots weren’t in game when most of these shortcuts were added I’d assume you’d save more ticks by using the shortcut and having your run last longer
Don’t tell Jagex, or they’ll start having agility shortcuts drain your run
when Agility was added in Classic you didn't have run energy. You walked everywhere
@@howlingwolf5213 well wouldn’t that technically make the shortcuts faster then? All of these tests were done shortcuts vs running
You could simply chug energy and super energy potions back in the day. Though people weren't wealthy enough to afford that back in the day.
I can't imagine doing a raid only walking lmao
Decided to look up the agility highscores. Apparently 49,908 people have levelled agility to 99, and 3 people are exactly 1 xp away
saving that last xp for a 99 party my dude!
one of those accounts, large unit, is the one commonly used as a metric to see how many players have 99+ in each skill
@@akuro6470 Wow that's really cool that someone did that.
@@akuro6470How does that work exactly? Like he has 99 -1xp in every skill so anyone ranked above him has max?
staying 1 xp away from 99 agility seems like the most salient thing to do cuz then no matter how much time you pour into your account, at least you don’t have 99 agility :)
You know the cool thing about that KQ lair shortcut requiring the elite diary? The fact that the tatty KQ head drop guaranteed on 256 kc is only a relatively recent change. I had to do 949 KQ kills in order to get a KQ head to finish the elite diary on my main. I've always been under the impression that the shortcut should have been an unlock from the hard diary not elite. The palace window shortcut should also be lowered to a medium diary reward.
As somebody who got their kq head on 3kc I think you're being a little hysterical.
@@Jasmine69420why are you dressed like a women bro?
@@Jasmine69420 Ironically enough my ironman got the head at 49 kc. Shortcut should still be a hard tier diary unlock
@@spiritfox123 It should be but wouldn't count on it. falls under that category of grinds casual mains won't attempt and will vote 'no' to because they have not attempted it. I've been asking for lumbridge elite to have it's quest point requirement capped for years and it's shot down every time. On release there was no such thing as a grandmaster quest, it now requires 3 of them and will require 4 after Desert Treasure 2.
@@spiritfox123 i believe it was polled and failed, but the permanent ropes were moved to hard from elite at least
This is the reason why I think they could always improve existing skills instead of adding newer ones.
They do improve existing skills pretty often by adding minigames/bosses for the skill although RC is still garbage even with GotR lol
Just remove them
My other grief with agility is that I believe EVERY shortcut should give you some exp, even if it's a small amount. Agility is one of the two skill that has such a disconnect between "training" and "using". The other is prayer which has the ability to "passively" train because most things drop bones/ashes. However with agility the instances where you use it (out in the world in shortcuts or area unlocks) is completely separate from when you train it.
The blue dragon shortcut is probably the first shortcut to mind when thinking of iconic shortcuts, the facts that you mentioned about it taunting you from the moment you go in to the dungeon, it really does encourages you to train agility
Mine was the moss giant to vannaka one
I want a level 99 shortcut on the front of the slayer tower that lets you climb to the roof
There is literally nothing worse than grinding for a really good shortcut only to be met with the “this shortcut requires X diary” message right after you try to use it. It’s like being kicked in the balls twice.
One might even say it's like getting Buck'd in the Scrotum twice
That just happened to me yesterday. I finally got 73 Agility for the Troll Stronghold roof shortcut so I wouldn't have to run inside and climb the ladder every time I wanted to go to the herb patch. I was so excited to finally use it, then it said it was a diary reward.
i’d much rather take a raid shadow legends ad over an AI “art” one
Yeah I think it’s important that AI art is ethically sourced. I very much doubt that app is doing that lol
@@peterjurasek9297 i’m not sure i understand how that would even be possible, would you mind elaborating how it could be?
@Mr Spaghetti Ethically sourced could be if an AI art program was exclusively made with artwork submitted by artists themselves instead of stolen.
Buuuuuut the fact that it doesn't exist yet proves that they don't care about artists, and that artists don't want their work used.
cry about it, u suck at art
Tbh he's plugging the shit he likes. I would say if you want raid, do Raid on your own vids bro. If he's into his ai phone app let him plug lol
the brimhaven stones is a shortcut, the other way is cut vines, up stairs, run past fire giants, run past demons, down stairs
Or unlock and use the southern entrance
I remember when I first encountered this shortcut, it was 2009 and I was 11 years old, I was literally on my first month of membership obviously 1 agility, when I saw that it required 12 agility to use I just went back to the brimhavem agility course that I encountered earlier to level up to be able to use it. I clearly remember it because I was at a friends house and I was frustated that we couldn't see the metal dragons that we saw on sosolid2k's videos.
I've always hated having to grind agility for good cerb trips, but its such a good useful shortcut that its always worth having. those 3 in tav dungeon are just great and scaled so perfectly
The graph at 0:49 being perfectly linear implies that not a single person started playing this game for the first time, and I think that's the truest part of this video
I don't think that's true, but due to the axis labels it does imply that 2 thousand year old gods were playing Runescape in the year 20 A.D.
@@cool_scatter Dude, try again
Hello spy from hit Valve game Team Fortress 2
@@Exonicon nah he’s right, read the axis labels haha
@@cool_scatter Lmao whooops
Hey Idyl, do you think you could share that spreadsheet with us for data on the rest of the shortcuts?
Gotta remember that shortcuts also save you run energy, which in turn (depending on your agility lvl and inventory weight) can save you *just a few* more ticks.
Great list, Idyl.
Amen to this. I've just started a new character, only have 40 agility atm and I'm running out of run energy constantly even with an empty inventory. The shortcuts not draining run energy saves a heck of a lot more than just a few ticks
Energy replenishes. Time saved does not.
@@cortaeali8838 it takes time for energy to replenish. How much time are you wasting "walking", or just standing still? waiting for energy.
Biggest problem with shortcuts is that the animations take so friggin long. This is emphasized the most with RS3's hidey hole grapple, where you have to sit in front of a rock for THREE solid seconds before slowly taking the grapple and firing it. Something that has a high level agility requirement should have our character flying through the obstacle effortlessly, not taking their time to stop on every jump. That would actually make shortcuts useful without needing to intentionally design bad pathing.
It'd be cool if tbe animations got faster as you leveled as it improved run energy
The karuulm dungeon shortcut and the skeletal wyverns shortcut are the worst offenders.
One nice use of the Iowerth lvl 84 agility shortcut is that if you are killing the nechs and a superior spawns, you can use going through the shortcut and then going back to de-agro the chaotic death spawns, which drastically reduces the damage you will take as each of the 3 spawns use 1 of the 3 combat styles.
The absolute worst part about the Diary shortcuts is the game doesn’t even warn you before getting the Agility level that you won’t be able to use it because it requires Elite diary completion
and RL marks it green makes it even annoying
Dude I grinder 72 agility for that one at the herb patch in the troll area just to get boned by diary I was so excited to use that patch that when I tried to climb the rock got rejected never went back
The diary should let you teleport up there directly, but the shortcut should be available just from agility
This is why you always, ALWAYS, have the wiki open while playing and look up everything before you commit a large amount of time to something.
The exact same thing happened to me when I did the Feud quest so I could do the desert quests and get Ali Morrisane to sell me law runes on my ironman, only to realize that I had to get my Herblore up, and thus my farming up, so I could make antivenom pots and do the desert quests without dying to the snakes.
Just a thought- diaries should lower the shortcuts within the area by a certain amount of levels. If you completed the Falador elite diary and it lowered the agility req of the shortcuts by an amount, that would feel like a good change rather than having shortcuts hard locked between diaries.
That's pretty clever!
Honestly I've low-key been thinking agility needs a revamp for the exact reasons you stated with taverly dungeon
idyl has been preparing for this speech for at least a year in total in the old good twitch days
13:53 "I truly cannot figure out why this obstacle even exists" This is because when bursting Nechryaels you can de-agro immediatly by taking the shortcut (back and forth if you want) so tanking 20 death spawns (or the ones from the superior) can be evaded and you can eat or log out then go back to Nech's whenever you want.
New-ish to bursting nechryaels, but aren't death spawns just good for bursting xp?
What are death spawns
@@jeffthechef9817minions that are summoned by nechys
@@jeffthechef9817 the smaller red bats thingy
Now to calculate how many times you'd have to use an agility shortcut to make it worth training.
Man, you're quickly becoming my favourite content creator, editing on point, interesting information and funny jokes, hope to see more content soon!
grapples staying in place is such a good idea
For example armadyl entrance, it would save inv space
I love when osrs content creators make videos like this (you and j1mmy) i dont see it as just bad mouthing the game but constructive criticism that jagex may not have thought about since agility came out so long ago. thank you for the top tier content
Props to everyone that uses the edge ville to grand exchange under wall shortcut
The blue dragon pipe was the only reason I continued to grind after getting graceful. It makes getting blue dhide and good prayer bones as an ironman so helpful.
I know a lot of people that paid for agility training services. I'd rather train RC to 200mil than train another character to 85 agility or even 70 just for quest.
I completely agree, so many of the shortcuts feel like a waste of time. I got my agility up to 56 getting graceful and now it's a real challenge for me to want to get to 70, to be able to use just 1 worthwhile shortcut in the taverly dungeon. And it is soooooo slow to train, it really is the wrost skill to train. I find it really crazy how some skills you can exp rates in the millions but others your lucky to get 15k exp and hour
70 is requirement for priff sooo.. get at least that!
for sure. this skill is one of the best examples of this game not respecting your time lmao
Is there a link to the spreadsheet anywhere?
Hey @Idyl_ can you post the google sheets that you refence in the video? Curious to see it. Thanks!
I remember when agility was added. I trained it a lot because I thought it was kinda fun.
Then came the rune crafting craze with the abyss and I was already geared for rune running.
This man made me feel so good about my account. As a maxed main with the achievement diary cape, this video hit home. And yes, I went to KQ until I got the tattered head, and yes that shortcut is amazing!
can we get a link to the spreadsheet? would be nice since most of the shortcuts weren't covered in the vid
The one grapple hook shortcut I used to constantly use during my tree farm runs was the one from catherby to taverly, very useful since it's between a fruit tree patch and a tree patch, saves a bunch of time and doesn't require ressources, although it would be nice if the grappling hook stayed there permanently.
Good writing and delivery on this one, well done, you're noticeably improving :)
Idyl coming through with the lunchtime video. Thanks bro.
Um, ackchyually.
The increased energy regeneration definitely wasn't unknown back in the day and even though agility is a members skill, that aspect of the skill even worked in F2P. It was a moderately important stat for F2P wars and to incentivise our members to do the tedious training our clan would sometimes pool together GP and have an agility training competition and whoever gained the most agility EXP that week won the GP, this was between 18-20 years ago.
my favorite diary locked agility requirements are the wilderness ones since there is substantial benefits to laughing at your would be killer being stuck.
Never heard of you. Stumbled upon this video while just randomly browsing. Absolutely loved it. Good job man. You have great energy and i like the delivery’s. Bravo 🥳
In defence to the Wintertodt shortcut, it's decent for getting some agility xp in inbetween rounds :P
Also it's useful for solo kills, saves a lot of time when you have to subdue the boss
I did that grapple in catherby when I was a kid and remember being so underwhelmed. I've never gone back to that area since.
Can we get a link to the spreadsheet please Idyl?
That subtle jebrim callout LOL
Subbed back when I saw J1mmy's prop hunt videos but this one truly tickled my spreadsheet-addicted monkey brain and sold me on your content. good video ty
They should make a cool like 2-5m item (in terms of drop rate and market stabilization, i'm saying it should probably equate to about being worth that much), that is not necessary but is more like the pharaoh's scepter in being a sort of 'luxury' item that provides convenience. It can be obtained through a mini game, maybe even the future sailing skill if it passes, and is an equippable item, for fashion scape or something, but it's a 2 in 1 item that you charge with mithril grapples, up to 100 or something, and saves two slots and equipping. I think that would be pretty neat
I think the only shortcut I use with any type of regularity is the Edgeville to GE tunnel
I think they polled the kalphite lair shortcut a while back to be a hard diary req but it failed. This was also when it was the 75% threshold
blows my mind
@@jawstrock2215 "The kids these days wanting everything for free. If I had to suffer they should too!" seems to be an ever popular mindset.
@@saheltaja yeah, ironmen should just start with full torva instead of the ironman armor. the only reason you would disagree with me is if you want to make me suffer through the grind of obtaining torva on an ironman. you are a very smart person.
@@janitorizamped Yea, how dare people want something to be a bit less work to get. That's as bad as expecting to be fed billions of coins without doing anything!
@@randomrandom9570 ?
Good video, but I'm disappointed by the sponsor. Those kind of AI generators are not only built on theft, but are ruining human creativity.
Shut up Harry
@@scumbaggery Your name suits you
inb4 Jebrim thanks you for free advertisement
I really like the mith grapple shortcut at the southern end of white wolf mountain. During Tree runs I usually do my last fruit tree at Catherby, and then I can just grapple over the mountain to the normal tree patch in Taverly
As a Diary Cape holder, I do feel the diary locked shortcuts are kind of silly to lock behind them.
But I really think the shortcuts that need the most looking at are the grapple shortcuts. Make them all 1-time things you need to setup. Although some of them are one way, and maybe kind of clumsy to set up (Like the water obelisk one). You could also alternatively change a few of them to be entirely different kind of shortcuts and adjust the requirements accordingly.
Such as instead of a grapple over the north Falador wall, it's a hole at the bottom of the wall you need to squeeze through.
And for the love of God, change those shitty shortcuts where you need to click on a million click boxes to use into one. Looking at you stepping rocks by the brutal red and steel dragons in Catacombs of Kourend.
Has Jagex ever polled introducing the grapple hidey-hole mechanic from RS3 to the grapple shortcuts? You build a stash, just like with clue scrolls, store a grapple in there, and then can use that grapple for the shortcut (I don't quite remember if you had to manually replace them on the other side, or if it was automatic, because RS3 then made that obsolescent with the toolbelt...).
I just got 99 agility this week, I can definitely say it breaks people.
I have never seen the vine into Kharazi Jungle from Shilo. I thought "Omg, almost 20yrs of chopping those trees". Then I looked at the date it was added in-game, 2015. Only 8 wasted years. Fun, I love RS 🤣
Is there a link to the spreadsheet?
You worked really hard on this & since osrs is supposed to basically be a democracy with changes, this spreadsheet should definitely be looked at by Jagex
Is that you J1mmy?
Where’d you get your hoodie @idyl?
Can we get a link to the spreadsheet?
70 for Blue Dragons and Sara GWD is the last point I saw training agility being useful. It's also around the same level where you get full graceful. Im higher than 70 now because I train agility while at work sometimes. But 70 was always my only real goal.
You and Jimmy should one day do an episode together on a thing like this.
Itd be funny and based
More of these analysis style videos. This was very interesting to watch!
Life changing video. I've been going through the observatory dungeon to get up there for medium clues on my UIM. How have I never known that the rope STAYS THERE???
Is the spreadsheet available online? There's a reproducibility crisis in science at the moment, and content creators making bold claims like "agility is bad" without showing the raw data is not helping that issue.
Most agility shortcut are useful if you're psychotic enough to spend 1k experience per 1 tile you're allowed to walk :o
PS: Blink twice if this is video a call for help. I won't do anything with that, but at least I'll know.
Keep it up man! love seeing the content and it is only getting better!
The Al Kharid ones are so unbelievably ridiculous. The palace one is probably going to be one of the first few you see in the game, one that's disproportionately more useful the earlier you could get access to it because you do so many early quests in that area, and then you can't use it for a ridiculous amount of time AND the reqs are too high AND it requires a diary. It's easily one of the most tilting things I can think about this game, and this game is full of those.
I am convinced that Idyl is J1mmy's slightly smarter brother.
Was interested in the topic, don’t respect an ai sponsor.
RS3 already made little stash boxes for all the grapple shortcuts, and I still don't ever use them. There is a grapple shortcut south of Lumbridge people hated so much that they put in a bridge right next to it.
cosmic altar shortcut was changed a few years back, you used to have to pass 2 spike traps on the higher level one and even when succesful was way longer than the lower level shortcut right next to it.
When they changed the shortcut they removed the 2nd spike trap.
That water obelisk grapple was useful for bank trips from that part of Taverley dungeon before the GE came out and made teleport tabs easy to get in bulk - you'd grapple from the island to Catherby, bank there, then grapple over to Taverley to get back to the dungeon. Took fewer inventory slots up than teleporting to falador, and was cheaper than the runes too, and didn't take much longer to be back in the dungeon.
Wut? You can't grapple from the shore to the obelisk. It's one way
@@Baldilocs Theres two grapple spots, one to get off the island one to get over the mountain to Taverly.
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I'm surprised you didnt' mention the shortcuts in the Fremennik slayer dungeon, those are really useful for saving time and run energy. And the ones in the Revenant caves can let you escape from PKers
I used to think the grapple mechanic was one of the coolest as a kid. I remember using that Falador wall grapple, and Catherby island grapple many times. It just goes to show you how much less we cared about efficiency back then haha.
Ew AI art ad
What about the trollheim shortcut for the herb patch that's locked behind a quest and the hard fremmy diary?
I would find it super neat if agility was used as a quality of life skill. So as it is now the best benefit is run energy, but I think some more quality of life ones could be moving from one side of falador to another in an interesting way. Maybe there is a ladder that leads to the top of the castle and a rope is tied from there to the party room. You click once and you scale the castle and slide all the way over there. So instead of clicking 20 times and walking a boring path, you click once and do something neat
In the case of the Viyeldi caves the long rope shortcut is so nice. No matter what even after doing Legends quest many times taking 50 damage for falling makes my heart skip a beat.
Pretty sure anyone who played back before 2007 knew Agility increased Run regen. It was in the patch notes, and I'm pretty sure it was on Sal's Realm guide.
Hey where is that spreadsheet at?
Idk if this bothers anyone else but: why are there so many different (random) levels for agility shortcuts?
Why not just like "here are 5 new shortcuts you can use at lvl 60, 70, etc.."? Or like "do all rock climbs at lvl 65, do all rope swings at 32", which would be a method that would actually make sense & give a visual cue for when you'd unlock a shortcut.
For the lower Mt Karuulm shortcut, it also saves you run energy, so its benefits are in more than just ticks saved. I suspect that'll be a common theme. You can use the agility shortcuts in the Arandar pass for a later quest when you need to kill a mourner, or potentially for a clue step without access to prif yet. Also I've used pretty much every shortcut you said nobody uses, except the grappling ones. That Iorwerth dungeon shortcut though LMAO. I can't think of a single use case for it ever. At least scaling walls LOOKS and FEELS cool.
I distinctly remember doing exactly that water orb method way back in the day for cash, and using the mith grapple to save gold on teleport runes..
Bro you hit the nail on the head, over and over. Fokin marvelous content. All I can say, as someone with 87 agility, is the goddamn shortcuts, like everything in this game, take WAY more time to acquire than are worth. Great job! I don't think anyone will top your take on the broken skill of Agility in OSRS, ever.
Such a good video! Man I wish Jagex would fix these problems. I never noticed the grapple hook stays at the observatory, please god make them all like that!! I never knew the KQ one was locked behind a diary.. Imagine grinding the agi level just to be told.. NO..
You can use Elf climb shortcuts for clue scrolls IIRC
Why do I feel like this video single handedly was the reason for all the shortcut changes in tonights update.
Just change the catherby grapple to go in the dungeon instead of out.
Hollyyyy crap don’t stop making content I’ve been DYING
Way back in the day of Runescape 2 I used to use Arandar pass. I hated going through the elven forest because of the wire traps, and it wasn't really that much worse to run from Ardy through Arandar if you were going to the Iowerth camp area, since you could pick up 6 red spiders eggs along the way.
Funny story, I was playing Leagues a couple days ago and ran into someone in Arandar. They called me scum because I was camping the red spider eggs spawn because basically nobody knows this area exists anymore. We had a laugh and they hopped on.
This was a good watch. The point of the faldor grapple shortcut was to mine coal at barb village and you wont have much run energy with a full inventory of coal so you grapple to fally bank to save energy
Pretty sure Arandar is a required area for a clue scroll step. If not then I'm mistaking it for RS3, that is.
This video perfectly summarized my frustrations with agility shortcuts in a way I could never. Bravo