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Stroke of genius, honestly. Thor did every single one of the atrocities he was credited in the first game. But instead of being a coward who tries to excuse himself or a psychopath who revels in his actions (though he pretends to be), he knows exactly what evil he's done and makes no attempt at justification. Consequently, he's depressed and self-loathing as all Hel and turns to alcohol as a coping mechanism because he can't stand himself. He's ungroomed, overweight, not taking care of himself. Can't even summon the enthusiasm to heal the wound in his side, which no doubt pains him. A hollowed out wreck of a man. And it all comes back to the All-Father. Odin abused and manipulated and exploited his son for centuries until Thor no longer believed he could be anything more than a destroyer because that's the only thing his father wanted out of him. Thor loves his family. He hates that he wiped out the giants. He blames himself for what happened to his sons. And the only escape from his screwed-up head is at the bottom of a tankard of mead, which only works briefly in exchange for making things worse in the long run. Odin truly is the biggest monster of the series. Everything wrong about the Norse realms goes back to him, from his damaged family to the destruction of entire realms. Even Zeus had the excuse of being possessed by a demon of fear that clouded his judgement. Odin is of sound mind and still acts the way he does. He's despicable.
You say Zeus was possessed by fear, but that only happened when Kratos popped open that fresh box. Before then, Zeus had all the atrocities credited to him in various tales (mostly all the rape), and that was before Kratos was even born most likely. You are correct though that Odin was an active tyrant in all the nine realms while almost the entire pantheon of Greece was responsible for their atrocities of the land.
@@sterlingglover7448zues did the exact same thing cornos did except he didn’t eat his child just allowed an unjustified fear to cloud his judgement which in now way absolves him ofc but it’s important to remember WHY characters do the things they do.
This game really shows just how much alike Thor and Kratos is. Daddy issues, depression, and having to deal with kids. Thor has Thrud and Kratos has Atreus. They could have been drinking buddies if the circumstances were right.
The reason Atreus got pissed at calling him BOI because even kratos doesn't do that anymore lol, on very rare occasions where kratos gets angry he does it once or twice in this game. But he will always be boi in our hearts.
Well, the difference is, Kratos is calling him BOI to make a clear signal that he doesn't like Atreus attitude towards him as a father. Her Atreus was called boy to disrespect him, make him small. Also... do you wanna get your ass whooped by Kratos cause you get angry cause being called BOI? I'd rather get a hole in my body in form of mjolnir!
I empathize way to much with Thrud over having to deal with an alcoholic father's shortcomings. People may think it's funny seeing his be so drunk, but it's different when it's your own father and the drinking's become a problem...
Ngl i feel that. I dont have a drunk dad but i did have a drunk uncle. It would make me upset when he becomes less than the kind, considerate father figure i always looked at him as. Hes been sober for i think the past 5 years and ive always been proud of him for that💪🏾💖
O think is funny but i feel the sorry for thrud... I see my father very very drunk and i didnt like it at all... It feels like he isnt your das any longer and then you hear this phrase "a drunk person turns to his true self" ofcourse this isnt si true but for a little girl very scare of how his dad isnt like she tough... Is shocking.
I’ll tell you this that a person told me who had alcoholism. He said it stops the noise and takes away the pain. So when we are seeing someone drink to the point they can’t tell the difference between the sky and the floor. We need to realise they are only self medicating to deal with the issues they have
God of war's Thor suffered the same fate as kratos actually. Being manipulated by your father into doing terrible things, who also doesn't care one bit about you. I can actually see the helplessness in This Thor's eyes. It feels like he wishes he knew a way to break free of this manner of Godhood.
@@erchipamogli3559 who said thor is the god of war? 😐 i said just like kratos his dad used him and then with the slightest problem zeus and odin killed them
"How are you still conscious?!?" I love how confused Atreus is about the brawl. But it also makes sense, beyond the fact that Einjerhar are already dead. Kratos is a father who prizes discipline now as he has tried teaching his son. As such, he's not the kind to get blindingly drunk and start a bar brawl. Thus, this is likely Atreus' first time dealing with a fight where the combatants have the blurred pain threshold of being drunk.
@Br Br Deng. Or the Murder Daddies club, I wonder what other characters would be part of that? Marcus, from Gears of War, would definitely be in that club.
Man, the game really makes you empathize with thor, seeing right through the tough lumbering savage warrior, all you see is a really depressed man, who regrets being a disappointment for his daughter and its constantly manipulated and objectified by odin as a killing machine, not only that but everyone literally hates him for that
Thor has been the victim of the negative reinforcement Kratos has suffered for years: The belief he is only a brutish oaf and a destroyer who only knows how to kill and maim. He is an alternate Kratos, a Kratos who never rebelled against the Olympians and pledged loyalty to Zeus.
Love the fact that Thor still has the wound Kratos gave him on his stomach with the Leviathan. Given what we know of how easy it is for gods to heal, that says a lot about Thor's mental state at this point (coupled with the obvious alcoholism).
What I like about this game is they didn’t just make Thor a villain who just appears in the middle of kratos’s journey. We get experience his life and his family which I really enjoyed. Plus fighting alongside him was amazing.
Yeah, and it makes the ending of Thor's story all the more touching and hearbreaking. Because in the end, Kratos, Thrud, Sig, and Atreus actually got through to him, and Thor had that life-changing realization/lesson that he took to heart. That for all of his guilt, self-loathing, lack of self-esteem, and inability to see how he could change, he accepted and agreed with Kratos' argument that it didn't matter--that they could still CHOOSE to be better, no matter how hard it is, even if they stumble and falter multiple times. That they MUST be better, for the sake of their family and children, because even if they have no hope in themselves, they HAVE to do better for the ones they love. And then Odin kills him without hesitation just because Thor, defeated, refuses to continue fighting to die a pointless death. And Thor's last act is to reach out to his daughter, unable to say anything due to the spear jutting through his throat, but the gesture alone speaks volumes. His final thoughts and actions are ones of love--he loves his daughter, and he wants to be there for her. He thinks nothing of his father's betrayal, he feels no anger or rage at it, just concern and love for his daughter. And it says so much that Kratos, Atreus, Freya, and Mimir are the ones utterly outraged and distraught at Thor's murder. Thor was another person they wanted to save from Odin, and they HAD, only for Odin to pointlessly snatch that away at the last moment. But Thor died redeemed, proving that he was resolutely deciding to change, proving that he cared more about love than about pride, or rage, or ego, even in his last moments.
Yes , addiction in the family is messed up .At least I never had a father who turned to liquor to dull the pain , shame and guilt of having commited Murder , Cruelty and Genocide and having repeated the cycle of parental abuse that lead my older brothers to a path of death .
everyone is talking about how funny this scene is but 9:20 to the end almost made me tear up and it didn't even hit close to home for me, just super powerful
His parts are also the weakest in the game though. Ironwood was a massive waste of time in terms of actual substance and helheim was also very slow considering his combat is repetitive af
@@ssk58607 I ain’t going lie, I wanna do another play through of this game but I’ll if I have to go through ironwood again, that part definitely overstayed it’s welcome
These kind of tavern fights are one of the most enjoyable things in any media depicting ancient warriors like vikings, period. The background themes make them even better.
@@Trigger0221 it can be heavy when the user demands it to be. If not, it can still be heavy, as well as light. Basically a Schrodinger mass. It is light, but also heavy.
Bruh this felt too fucking close to home. Had a girl friend in highschool whose father were exactly this; He's a proficient math teacher but a fuckin drunkard, also minus all the mighty hammer, muscles and height. Her daughter was my classmate. She had to endure all the question of why his dad fucked up so much. Strong girl. Last i heard her parent split and she lived with her fiancee. The toxic family relationship were very good in the norse saga of GoW. I loved it.
Something I really have to admire about games like this is how a simple moment of trying to get a drunk, abusive father back on the job, and it turns into an emotional battle of wills, and clearly an epic moment of pure action in a tavern. You gotta love narrative games, because they really capture the subtle and obvious nuances of storytelling. The fact that Thor isn't some lunatic who enjoys being a monster, but is instead a self-abusive drunk who hates himself to the point that he can't see himself as anything other than a destroyer, and so therefore, there's nothing else to live for other than drowning his sorrow in a few hundred cups of mead. Granted he really does love Thrud and Sif, but that doesn't change the fact that his sons are dead, and he's the one responsible for their deaths. He may not have been the one to deal the killing blows, but he is the one who sent them with Baldur under Odin's orders to find Faye and learn about the path to Jotunheim. And when Modi came back without Magni, how does Thor respond? By beating his son within an inch of his life and sent him back to die at the hands of Kratos and Atreus.
The amount of work put in this game is incredible...Just look at how many things are happening in this very scene... the amount of motion capture, acting, directing, camera work, sound mixing... just unbelievable. Nobody does it like Sony 1st party man...
Everyone who has read the myths knows, drunk Thor is always fun. And it isn't a Viking banquet without a proper brawl at the tavern. Also nice to see Atreus show some classic traits of Young Kratos
The presentation of Thor's drinking is surprisingly... modern? At least when it comes to how it affects those who love him. He's guilty about it too, like it's keeping him prisoner, the way it does for alcoholics. Very interesting angle to take, love it. It would've been easy to just go "hur dur lots of drinking is manly as fuck".
It's the subtle things that get me when i rewatch this stuff. Thor pointing at atreus to divert blame, yelling "YEAH" when thrud tackles the dude, mjolnir and ingrid clashing, etc
There had to be someone on the God of War team with an alcoholic relative, they really hit it on the head with the dialogue and the emotions. The mannerisms even.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 Correct, only the Einherjar that within the walls of Valhalla will fight during Ragnarok. Folkvangr get the other half of the fallen warriors, though it is never stated what their purpose will be.
7:03 Me after sending my Master's thesis in German to the department of my faculty after five months of work the day before yesterday. I didn't faint, but I could barely leave the bed after 900 hours spent working on that damn thing.
People find this funny, me too, but beside that, this is a pretty personal sad scene and i'm pretty sure i wasn't the only one. This scene, specially the one after the fight, hits hard when you have gone through that situation because of depressed alcohol addicted father who is falling again and again in his addictions no matter how hard you try to make him understand thats not the only way
10:18 "can I get you a water or something" I swear they based this entire sequence off of my last night out on the town, complete with the deadbeat alcoholic dad subplot
Jamás me imaginé que se pudiera empatizar con los supuestos "enemigos" en el juego. Un puntazo sin dudas que Atreus se haya aventurado por si solo hacia el otro bando.
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Kratos: Boy, what happened? And why is HE in our home???
Atreus: we drank. We fought, he made his ancestors proud
I understood that reference.
OMG OMG YOUR SO FUNNY AND WITTY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT
@@Altherot can you tell me from where? I’m curious
@@rasmusrasmusson7176 Thor movie
@@rasmusrasmusson7176 Marvel Universe film Thor starring Chris Hemsworth.
Can't have a fantasy world without a good old fashioned tavern brawl.
Best one of it all. I hope we still had it like this
@@beegdawg Where, though? I guess in Elysium?
Yup it's standard ✌😂
Lmao true, if you play any rpg fantasy game and there aint brawl in local tavern its 5/10
All that was missing was a version of FREE BIRD or something playing at max volume in the background.
Thor dropping like a tree is my favorite moment from this game
Bro caused an earthquake just by falling
Damn funny scene lol...
@@PNSL2008 cuz he too fat
Lame
This and Atreus bringing back Fenrir into Garm's body as a big chonky boi.
They really did capture Asgardians in this game. Never expected half of them to be… drunkards and savage warriors.
Really? Valhalla is said to be a realm where they drink, kill each other and tell stories all day and then tomorrow they start over again
@@VDA19
Really? I thought Valhalla was more than that. You telling me those… things they killed in the bar, would come back to life again?
Well I also didn't expect the king of the gods to be a rapist and a cheater and also an incest.
@@multiverse_media2023 yes, even the animals they eat.
@@VDA19 Valhalla is a part of Asgard
the transitions between cutscene and combat are elite
The whole game is a cutscene, and I like It.
They are absolutely seamless
I don't know what's the difference anymore
Best thing about naughty dog
It’s not a cutscene
Stroke of genius, honestly. Thor did every single one of the atrocities he was credited in the first game. But instead of being a coward who tries to excuse himself or a psychopath who revels in his actions (though he pretends to be), he knows exactly what evil he's done and makes no attempt at justification. Consequently, he's depressed and self-loathing as all Hel and turns to alcohol as a coping mechanism because he can't stand himself. He's ungroomed, overweight, not taking care of himself. Can't even summon the enthusiasm to heal the wound in his side, which no doubt pains him. A hollowed out wreck of a man. And it all comes back to the All-Father. Odin abused and manipulated and exploited his son for centuries until Thor no longer believed he could be anything more than a destroyer because that's the only thing his father wanted out of him. Thor loves his family. He hates that he wiped out the giants. He blames himself for what happened to his sons. And the only escape from his screwed-up head is at the bottom of a tankard of mead, which only works briefly in exchange for making things worse in the long run.
Odin truly is the biggest monster of the series. Everything wrong about the Norse realms goes back to him, from his damaged family to the destruction of entire realms. Even Zeus had the excuse of being possessed by a demon of fear that clouded his judgement. Odin is of sound mind and still acts the way he does. He's despicable.
You say Zeus was possessed by fear, but that only happened when Kratos popped open that fresh box. Before then, Zeus had all the atrocities credited to him in various tales (mostly all the rape), and that was before Kratos was even born most likely. You are correct though that Odin was an active tyrant in all the nine realms while almost the entire pantheon of Greece was responsible for their atrocities of the land.
The reason he doesn’t heal his wound is because kratos’ axe had poison from the world serpent on it so he can’t as easily
and the funny thing is all Odin's actions narrows down to only one thing. To prevent rangnarok and his own demise
@@sterlingglover7448zues did the exact same thing cornos did except he didn’t eat his child just allowed an unjustified fear to cloud his judgement which in now way absolves him ofc but it’s important to remember WHY characters do the things they do.
One thing people forget about Zeus is that he cared about his children even though he done some questionable things.
Love how Thor just points at him at 2:55 like “he did it”
Goddamnit Thor 😂🤣 makes me want to beat you up silly rather than seriously.
Hehehe.
No
And Atreus look at him too
lmao i didn't even notice that.
This game really shows just how much alike Thor and Kratos is. Daddy issues, depression, and having to deal with kids. Thor has Thrud and Kratos has Atreus. They could have been drinking buddies if the circumstances were right.
Also to take it a step further, both have lost children….
@@MrShapow23 kratos didnt lose calliope, he gave her up.
@@redragon1990 I don't think that was cannon the part where he leaves her
@@Opgaming-ey9lb it was
@@redragon1990 yeah but wasn’t that after he accidentally killed her & his wife?
5:56
Mjolnir and the sword fighting killed me 🤣
The sword's name is Ingrid
Imagine the *Leviathan Axe* does that too.
I didn’t even notice that when I played.
@@ZenTerra-N.O.V.A we already have one frozen lighting We dont need another
What are you doing here wesker
4:27 the way thor ran is so hilarious 😂
Thinking too muuch
Thinking too muuuuuuch.
Thinking too much
*Epic Tavern music*
Thinking too muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch
Thinking too much 😂
Thor’s excitement seeing Thrud jump into battle was pure.
Nice catch. This game has so many amazing little details
“YEAH!”
Proud even when he is drunk🍺💪
The reason Atreus got pissed at calling him BOI because even kratos doesn't do that anymore lol, on very rare occasions where kratos gets angry he does it once or twice in this game. But he will always be boi in our hearts.
He calls him boy when Atreus complains about Kratos' stew?
When did Kratos calls him boi in this game?
@@lmldz6360 the biggest BOOI was when he first ran away to Asgard.
It's triggering I guess.
Well, the difference is, Kratos is calling him BOI to make a clear signal that he doesn't like Atreus attitude towards him as a father. Her Atreus was called boy to disrespect him, make him small.
Also... do you wanna get your ass whooped by Kratos cause you get angry cause being called BOI?
I'd rather get a hole in my body in form of mjolnir!
the way he shouted "my name-" great voice acting
starting to get badass like his father
IS GYOBOU MASATAKA ONIWA
He's already beaten a guy 1 on 1
@@lemnioaz3854 AS I LIVE AN BREATHE, YOU SHALL NOT PASS THE CASTLE GATE
@@lemnioaz3854 YES SOMEONE SAID IT
@@lemnioaz3854
Sekiro lol
5:21 the way Thor knocks down a dude with his head💀 fuck this whole scene is hilarious
For real powerful head butt
LMAO
LMAO THAT GOT ME IN THE FLOOR FR
He's just like "U wot m8" and then BONK headbutt
Bro got dropped like Nate Robinson💀💀💀
10:08
It's hilarious considering Thor's too drunk to care about all the people Mjolnir's passing through LOL
You think Thor cares about the people if he wasn't drunk?
Dude, even the HAMMER acts drunk.
Dr Strange would find it familiar.
@@GrendelsPRIME He cares about his daughter...
It's essentialy a room of corpses so I doubt it would do anything
I empathize way to much with Thrud over having to deal with an alcoholic father's shortcomings. People may think it's funny seeing his be so drunk, but it's different when it's your own father and the drinking's become a problem...
Ngl i feel that.
I dont have a drunk dad but i did have a drunk uncle. It would make me upset when he becomes less than the kind, considerate father figure i always looked at him as.
Hes been sober for i think the past 5 years and ive always been proud of him for that💪🏾💖
Same here I grew up with the same father
O think is funny but i feel the sorry for thrud... I see my father very very drunk and i didnt like it at all... It feels like he isnt your das any longer and then you hear this phrase "a drunk person turns to his true self" ofcourse this isnt si true but for a little girl very scare of how his dad isnt like she tough... Is shocking.
@@chriss.249 congratulations 5 years sober is beyond amazing. He should be proud of himself
I’ll tell you this that a person told me who had alcoholism. He said it stops the noise and takes away the pain. So when we are seeing someone drink to the point they can’t tell the difference between the sky and the floor. We need to realise they are only self medicating to deal with the issues they have
God of war's Thor suffered the same fate as kratos actually. Being manipulated by your father into doing terrible things, who also doesn't care one bit about you. I can actually see the helplessness in This Thor's eyes. It feels like he wishes he knew a way to break free of this manner of Godhood.
also zeus killed kratos as well...
@@hermias14 then I hope, like Kratos, Thor would tough it out and force his way out of Helheim
@@hermias14 yeah exactly
Thor Is not the god of war
@@erchipamogli3559 who said thor is the god of war? 😐
i said just like kratos his dad used him and then with the slightest problem zeus and odin killed them
Even Thor's calling him Boi 😂
Doesn’t everyone call him Boy?
@@multiverse_media2023 you mean BOI
@@GrendelsPRIME
BE QUIET, BOI!
@@multiverse_media2023 perfect timing for the name “ok and? BE QUIET BOI”
better yet, thor is the only character in the sequel that calls him boy.
Atreus' floating sword is the best companion in the game.
Especially when the sword and hammer started throwing down like they had beef 🤣
In the myths, it's Frey's weapon. He gave it up to marry a jotunn
Surmabrandr... (i forgot the spelling) Or Magnus Chase' books...Named Jack xD
@@fnh123 it is freyr' in the game too
@@fnh123 Explains why Ingrid was so eager to scrap with Mjolnir and why she warmed up to Atreus really quickly, she's no friend of the Aesir.
10:25 I like how thor tries to grab the sword but realises it isn't his 🤣 *Snap*
damn didn't notice that sharp eye🤯
He thought it was Mjolnir 💀
SO MANY SMALL DETAILS I CANT KEEP UP WITH THEM ALL
And it's so fast too. Holy shit.
Oh damn, subtle
Also a fun fact: Thor used to have a sword before gaining Mjolnir
10:12 love that Mjolnir seems drunk too
He does share his mead with Mjolnir
Hahah that’s so true
Did you notice how the position it came in when it broke through the wall it smacked his hand so the hammer fell to the ground😭
Mjolnir had a brawl against Atreus' sword. 😂
Mjolnir dropped just like thor did lmao
5:16 Kratos must be proud
That fucking guy he was punching was eating those like candy tho. Tough sob
Kratos:"That's my BOI!"
Punching Zeus to pulp flashback
@@AlphaQHard no he wasn’t lol, face getting bloody and fucked up. No different from when we do it with kratos.
Knew it 😂
"How are you still conscious?!?"
I love how confused Atreus is about the brawl. But it also makes sense, beyond the fact that Einjerhar are already dead. Kratos is a father who prizes discipline now as he has tried teaching his son. As such, he's not the kind to get blindingly drunk and start a bar brawl. Thus, this is likely Atreus' first time dealing with a fight where the combatants have the blurred pain threshold of being drunk.
I like how atrues tries not to kill anyone it's a nice touch tbh
Doesn't really make a difference since they're already dead
Bro XD artreus even made the Kratos move and beat a dude who was on the ground and didnt stop
@@lartts7483 yeah they’d just reanimate later
@@lartts7483 Atrues be lik: People die when they are killed.
Trying not to be his father 💀
5:57 Ingrid and Mjolnir are fighting... How adorable 🤣
I didn't notice that until now 😂
I like how alive they are😂
They have beef
They looked like uka uka and aku fighting 😂
I really like Thor's personality, he seems to have his own ways in doing anything.
Depressed father gang Kratos and Thor
@Br Br Deng. Or the Murder Daddies club, I wonder what other characters would be part of that? Marcus, from Gears of War, would definitely be in that club.
0:33 The fact that Atreus used the same technique when passing through small sided gap areas.
bruh he fondled the man's nipples and everythin" 😂
He deserved that tbh
Yeah no wonder that guy pushed him he totally copped a feel lol
bro lookin like lara croft
I never noticed that 😂 that dude was not trying to catch that case
0:52 The look on Thrud’s face, finding her father like that… damn. I *felt* that.
10:06
I love how Thor was summoning his weapon, but you can hear in the inside.
That hammer was drunk as shit that it started to fight the sword 😂
2:45 Thor reminded Atreus of Kratos.
And he was blamed for starting a fight.
It's because Thor is Kratos. Or more accurately, he is what Kratos could have been had he pledged loyalty to Zeus.
Man, the game really makes you empathize with thor, seeing right through the tough lumbering savage warrior, all you see is a really depressed man, who regrets being a disappointment for his daughter and its constantly manipulated and objectified by odin as a killing machine, not only that but everyone literally hates him for that
And the fact that his mother was a giant and he’s literally been wiping out his own people at his father’s command. No wonder he turned to booze
Im still kinda thinking on it but I wish his death was a lil less abrupt
Really was looking foward on a kratos/Thor Bro scene
Thor has been the victim of the negative reinforcement Kratos has suffered for years: The belief he is only a brutish oaf and a destroyer who only knows how to kill and maim. He is an alternate Kratos, a Kratos who never rebelled against the Olympians and pledged loyalty to Zeus.
Love the fact that Thor still has the wound Kratos gave him on his stomach with the Leviathan. Given what we know of how easy it is for gods to heal, that says a lot about Thor's mental state at this point (coupled with the obvious alcoholism).
Could also be cause leviathan was imbued with jormungandrs venom
It's a symbolism but also Gods can injure other Gods in this game and those usually don't heal
@@souperhappydrinkingcoffee5130 Naw if it was he would drop dead. World serpents poison just kills everything instantly.
@@OK-yy6qz Kratos heals from the wounds Baldur gave him in their first fight in the 2018 game
@@SoI_Badguy and the giant stab wound from the blade of Olympus in his stomach. Big scar but it's healed
2:44 Atreus: ONLY DAD IS ALLOWED TO CALL ME THAT
Didnt expect him to get wasted and fall over like that lol.
So much for the Almighty God of Thunder. He’s not the Thor I know.
@@multiverse_media2023 That's Thor for you, you should blame Marvel for inaccurate portrayal of Thor most people are used to.
@@multiverse_media2023so which thor do you know? the Marvel version? i like the GOW version better than that.
@@RandomVs189
Not that one! This Thor was a great warrior once. What happened to him… I blame the All-Father.
@@RandomVs189 no the one from the myths. Tall red bearded and muscular is the description.
What I like about this game is they didn’t just make Thor a villain who just appears in the middle of kratos’s journey.
We get experience his life and his family which I really enjoyed. Plus fighting alongside him was amazing.
Never thought I'd love Thor so much
7:05 well that was unexpected.
*"Goodnight girl, I see ya tomorrow."*
Twomad Moment
I laughed so hard, had to take a break and walk outside for a bit.
Dude dropped like a brick.
Legit earthquake at the moment of impact.
As someone who’s dealt with alcoholism in my family this scene hits me hard :(
Yeah it's always uncomfortable to watch when you can relate...
@@maxvitor7023 8:25 is especially relatable. The way Thrud talks to Thor about him breaking his sobriety hits me hard.
Yeah, and it makes the ending of Thor's story all the more touching and hearbreaking. Because in the end, Kratos, Thrud, Sig, and Atreus actually got through to him, and Thor had that life-changing realization/lesson that he took to heart. That for all of his guilt, self-loathing, lack of self-esteem, and inability to see how he could change, he accepted and agreed with Kratos' argument that it didn't matter--that they could still CHOOSE to be better, no matter how hard it is, even if they stumble and falter multiple times. That they MUST be better, for the sake of their family and children, because even if they have no hope in themselves, they HAVE to do better for the ones they love.
And then Odin kills him without hesitation just because Thor, defeated, refuses to continue fighting to die a pointless death. And Thor's last act is to reach out to his daughter, unable to say anything due to the spear jutting through his throat, but the gesture alone speaks volumes. His final thoughts and actions are ones of love--he loves his daughter, and he wants to be there for her. He thinks nothing of his father's betrayal, he feels no anger or rage at it, just concern and love for his daughter.
And it says so much that Kratos, Atreus, Freya, and Mimir are the ones utterly outraged and distraught at Thor's murder. Thor was another person they wanted to save from Odin, and they HAD, only for Odin to pointlessly snatch that away at the last moment. But Thor died redeemed, proving that he was resolutely deciding to change, proving that he cared more about love than about pride, or rage, or ego, even in his last moments.
Yes , addiction in the family is messed up .At least I never had a father who turned to liquor to dull the pain , shame and guilt of having commited Murder , Cruelty and Genocide and having repeated the cycle of parental abuse that lead my older brothers to a path of death .
5:18 Like father like son at this point.
😂❤️
Then atreus said « HOW ARE YOU STILL CONSCIOUS ? »
LEAVE.
MY.
HOOOOOOME!
everyone is talking about how funny this scene is but 9:20 to the end almost made me tear up and it didn't even hit close to home for me, just super powerful
It hit extremely close to home for me, and the bit that stood out the most is the fact Thor can't bring himself to look his daughter in the eyes
Same when you’ve lived with an alcoholic parent the drunk dad jokes don’t land
5:59
It's hilarious Atreus' sword is fighting against Mjolnir.
Cus Mjohlnir is drunk too. 🤣🤣🤣
Ingrid, yea it was great 😂 😂
Atreus asking how they are still conscious is hilarious to me
honestly wasn't expecting Thor to act like my real life alcoholic father. Wasn't expecting a butcher god to be so close to home
Yep....
As someone who still struggles with alcohol problems I saw myself in this scene. I'm sorry
@@KryptekBrit hey man you're not the only one.
@@KryptekBrit damn, me too...
Same even had to come get my dad as a teen from the bar like she does here. No kid should see their parents in such a state
Kratos be the only one aloud to call him BOY!
Not anymore
Allowed*
He will get a thrashing for that later.
Brok used to call him that too
@@jordangene1923 oh yeah definitely
"We're here for you. Even when you're... here."
What a line.
What does that mean? I don't get it
Goddamn Thor is hilarious when drunk
Edit: I CANT, FUCKIN "What have you started?! put down the--" *thor fucking thuds ont othe ground*
Wonder how much the “fat dobber” weighs hahaha
This segments feels so whimsical somehow and I love it. It doesn't feel like GOW but damn does it feel fun.
@@kealebogapelotshweu5918 bro his fall is a fucking mini earthquake. I'm sure he's pretty heavy.
Being able to play as Atreus is a great move on the developers part y'know
Maybe, in the future, Atreus will be the protagonist of his own game or of a God of War spinoff
@@vbooks9708 Atrues becoming the God of War would be neet to see
@@REDtheblazian wouldn't make sense, besides knowing that everything he did in the game is lie, being the god of mischief would probably fit.
His parts are also the weakest in the game though. Ironwood was a massive waste of time in terms of actual substance and helheim was also very slow considering his combat is repetitive af
@@ssk58607 I ain’t going lie, I wanna do another play through of this game but I’ll if I have to go through ironwood again, that part definitely overstayed it’s welcome
7:00 got my laughing ass off the chair 🤣🤣🤣
The cut scenes , combat , comedy , music and astec of Krastos’s son and Thor’s Daughter and Thor himself all fighting together really is a masterpiece
5:19 boi truly is his father's child
Thor falling down on the ground while still drinking was the most funniest thing in this game 😂
Funnier than when brok said fcuk knuckles? Lol
These kind of tavern fights are one of the most enjoyable things in any media depicting ancient warriors like vikings, period. The background themes make them even better.
I find it awesome that atreus's sword was fighting thor's hammer in the air
@5:56 Mjolnir and the sword fight was hilarious
That shit is epic
Weapons are not allowed but I guess trying to take Mjölnir from Thor wouldn’t end well for the guard.
Basically he's the king of Asgard after Odin so the rules don't really apply on him
I don’t even think they can lift it the mjolnir so heavy I remember thor needing a powerbelt, bracelet and rings to wield it
@@colyph676 how heavy is it? Shouldn't the table break if Thor put Mjolnir on the table?
@@Trigger0221 it can be heavy when the user demands it to be. If not, it can still be heavy, as well as light. Basically a Schrodinger mass. It is light, but also heavy.
@@Trigger0221 Even Kratos have a difficulty to hold it....
"Boy... That escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast."
Everyone fighting with bare hands and Thor trowing mjolnir lol
THE AMOUNT OF EMOTIONS ON THRUDD'S FACE!!! OMG!!! I CAN'T!!!! THIS IS A FREAKIN' GAME AND LOOK AT HER OMG!
Bruh this felt too fucking close to home. Had a girl friend in highschool whose father were exactly this; He's a proficient math teacher but a fuckin drunkard, also minus all the mighty hammer, muscles and height. Her daughter was my classmate. She had to endure all the question of why his dad fucked up so much. Strong girl. Last i heard her parent split and she lived with her fiancee.
The toxic family relationship were very good in the norse saga of GoW. I loved it.
Oh I see, so the Aesir family reminded you of an actual thing that was nearly identical.
3:30 did anyone notice how one arrow slips out when that guy trows arrows?
Attention to details at its finest👌
I did
7:04 i just can’t 😂
*"Goodnight girl, I see ya tomorrow."*
Too funny
So damn excited to play this at midnight!!
Yeah I can't wait to play your copy either.
Something I really have to admire about games like this is how a simple moment of trying to get a drunk, abusive father back on the job, and it turns into an emotional battle of wills, and clearly an epic moment of pure action in a tavern. You gotta love narrative games, because they really capture the subtle and obvious nuances of storytelling. The fact that Thor isn't some lunatic who enjoys being a monster, but is instead a self-abusive drunk who hates himself to the point that he can't see himself as anything other than a destroyer, and so therefore, there's nothing else to live for other than drowning his sorrow in a few hundred cups of mead. Granted he really does love Thrud and Sif, but that doesn't change the fact that his sons are dead, and he's the one responsible for their deaths. He may not have been the one to deal the killing blows, but he is the one who sent them with Baldur under Odin's orders to find Faye and learn about the path to Jotunheim. And when Modi came back without Magni, how does Thor respond? By beating his son within an inch of his life and sent him back to die at the hands of Kratos and Atreus.
The amount of work put in this game is incredible...Just look at how many things are happening in this very scene... the amount of motion capture, acting, directing, camera work, sound mixing... just unbelievable. Nobody does it like Sony 1st party man...
Everyone who has read the myths knows, drunk Thor is always fun. And it isn't a Viking banquet without a proper brawl at the tavern.
Also nice to see Atreus show some classic traits of Young Kratos
Lmao fr seeing the boy throw some haymakers brings a tear to my eye
Kratos and all GOW fans: *Sheds tears* We're so proud of you, boi.
Well
Gow is highly inaccurate.
@@cringekiller348 Of course it isn't , your point being?
@@cringekiller348 I mean yeah, some inaccuraices will be there since creative liberty exists. But how it is adapted beautifully matters.
loved this part, had me laughing and smiling the entire time.
"Thinking too muuuch" 😂 😂
In the end thor is still just a father trying his best.
If his sons had problems, so does he
The presentation of Thor's drinking is surprisingly... modern? At least when it comes to how it affects those who love him. He's guilty about it too, like it's keeping him prisoner, the way it does for alcoholics. Very interesting angle to take, love it. It would've been easy to just go "hur dur lots of drinking is manly as fuck".
Love how Atreus gets called a "breast fed baby." When he tries to get by that dude 😆
What did the guy say after artreus gets launched up stairs?
It will take more than that
So a milk drinker.
It's the subtle things that get me when i rewatch this stuff. Thor pointing at atreus to divert blame, yelling "YEAH" when thrud tackles the dude, mjolnir and ingrid clashing, etc
There had to be someone on the God of War team with an alcoholic relative, they really hit it on the head with the dialogue and the emotions. The mannerisms even.
Atreus in his first bar fight, man they grow up so fast
“I said quiet BOY!”
“MY NAME IS”
After years of “boi” from his dad, the last thing he needed was another man calling him boy
Atreus's combat is soo good 🍻🍻
When he’s not using arrows.
Fr
This is the most realistic depiction of being drunk and a father.
The Einherjar are warriors who answered Valkyrie's Calls. They live in Folkvangr and became Odin's personal army in preparation of Ragnarok.
don't half the einherjar live in Valhalla. Folkvangr has their own half.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 Correct, only the Einherjar that within the walls of Valhalla will fight during Ragnarok. Folkvangr get the other half of the fallen warriors, though it is never stated what their purpose will be.
No, half of them live in Folkvangr, the other half live in Valhalla
Damn I really like Thor in this game
this is fantasy pub fight I kinda yearn for in RPG, looks so fun 😂
Congratulations to Santa Monica Studio, they really managed to capture the "alcoholic father" character
I’d love to see Kratos go into an Asgardian pub lmao
He'd have to pay for the roof damage
Lennayyy
“weapons are not allowed inside”
thor: fuck that!!!!
2:56 - 7:00
All I can think of when I witness this Bar Fight is how well Free Bird could easily fit in this situation
Damn, now I can’t unhear it.
I want to see an edit of this whole scene with it in there 😂
5:58 Lmao at Mjolnir and Ingrid just having a random fight
I am very happy to know Atreus is playable now. I felt like he should have been in the first game, but he was fine being an assist.
5:18
That is such a Kratos moment here!
Such a good interpretation: Thor as a broken man whose only ever been valued for his ability to be violent and drink.
The funny thing is thor was a drunker and that's why he has big belly 😂
That's not a funny thing, that's a fact!
Theories also acknowledge that the fatter you are the quicker you get drunk
when thrud is charging that guy at 3:30 and thor is just like YEAHHHH funny af XD
7:03 Me after sending my Master's thesis in German to the department of my faculty after five months of work the day before yesterday. I didn't faint, but I could barely leave the bed after 900 hours spent working on that damn thing.
8:55 damn that lil girl surely do got Godly strength in her..
6:10 I love how the hammer and sword are also going at it lmao
The way Thor says "Thinking to muchh" its funny 🤣🤣🤣
People find this funny, me too, but beside that, this is a pretty personal sad scene and i'm pretty sure i wasn't the only one. This scene, specially the one after the fight, hits hard when you have gone through that situation because of depressed alcohol addicted father who is falling again and again in his addictions no matter how hard you try to make him understand thats not the only way
10:18 "can I get you a water or something" I swear they based this entire sequence off of my last night out on the town, complete with the deadbeat alcoholic dad subplot
Love Thor in Ragnarok!
Jamás me imaginé que se pudiera empatizar con los supuestos "enemigos" en el juego.
Un puntazo sin dudas que Atreus se haya aventurado por si solo hacia el otro bando.
5:23
Making kratos proud by going zeus beatdown on that guy
I love Atreus. He's shaped like a little brother
And it's awesome seeing him grow in bravery and strenght, and as a person
10:05 They know how to regain the mood, you just know by the sound Mjölnir took as always the direct way 😂