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Complete Setup and Explanation of Lossless Scaling 2.9 Features - Best Settings
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0:00 Intro
0:28 Setup
4:17 Presets
5:00 PCSX2
5:42 RPCS3
7:22 Sudachi
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Hello, how to use lsfg in ryujinx? When i press f11, lsfg can't see ryujinx, if i don't press f11, i see Ryujinx interface in bottom and top, and black borders
this video was a breath of fresh air, can’t wait for more! ️
Thank you for your feedback.
I've been testing on rpcs3 and yuzu. Getting solid 120fps on infamous and astral chain. Its epic!!! Best thing for gaming since ever.
Is your booty big?
Hey man, I tried to play GoW3 on rpcs3 but I only get around 5-10 fps so lossless scaling wouldn't make any sense to use. How do you crank it up to around 30? Is there a good way to set it up?
@benedeknagy4817 did you change the settings according to the rpcs3 wiki and use any recommended patches? Also whats your hardware like?
@@benedeknagy4817 youll need a better CPU
See, this is the problem with RUclips. Go to one video and you will come to know - "you gotta limit your frames first", go to the other one - "you gotta run it as an administrator". Why can't authors put everything into one single video?! What's the matter?!
people aren't perfect, and the quality of an informative youtube video is always limited by the knowledge of the videos creator; much like how the characters in a book are only as intelligent as the author is. in short, it wasn't included because the creator didn't know.
You can disable duplicate frames in PCSX2. I’ve been playing most games locked to 30fps at 90fps. I love it 🤤
I thought the games used to run on 60FPS. Now I am hearing it's duplicate frames.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I think the emulator does the duplicating to make it 60fps but the games internally still run at their original frame rate of (usually) 30fps. That’s why it’s an option that can be disabled.
@@llIZeroIIlvery helpful, thanks fellow tech nerd 🤓
How to disable it on pcsx2?
@@AlbertRei3424 you have to go to the advanced tab in PCSX2 and untick the box that says duplicate frames.
Question i got a 144hz should i lock the fps 72fps for 2x or 48 for 3x or is that not necessary? If my pc can handle for example 80fps can i lock it there?
You can, i lock 60 fps x3 on wuthering wave
lock it to 72fps
@@Bujang-ut9qjdid u get input delay in wuwa while using lossless?
@@reaghata3219 using reflex or anti lag, also edit engine.ini like add r.OneFrameThreadLag=1
Always choose the higher lock, with the lower multiplier, if possible. Not only will the quality be better, but you get more latency than the locked fps would be. I haven't measured LSFG, but the latency in your examples would probably be similar to a native 30 fps for the X3 example, and 55-60 for the X2 example. For a game that timings or animations were made for 30 or 60, I would choose 60 X2, but it would need you to switch to 120hz for the best experience.
Thanks for the video! I have a big problem, after a few minutes of using the program, the terrain image becomes VERY blurry. Any way to resolve?
A note to anyone that has a high refresh rate computer, after 120 fps the program will start to have problems
120fps base or generated?
I wouldn't say that you should always use DXGI. In your last video about LS you showed Tears of the Kingdom and there were visual glitches at the bottom of the screen as soon as link started running, maybe tearing or sth. else. WGC gets rid of them.
what's wgc
@@shotofchillThe default capture api for Framegen in Lossless Scaling is DXGI, WGC is the second one and can have less latency according to the devs but doesn't work well with VRR and compatibility is worse I think.
DXGI is probably better in most cases but as I said there can be outliers.
wow, I didn't know I could possibly get lower latency, will test that out!!
It lowers fps in sonic frontiers :/
You dont notice WGC makes the game microstutter?
I do all settings set you said only 1 left is preferred gpu this my cause when i start scaling my actual game fps gose 60 to 9 fps lossless scaling is work opposite but when i select my gpu in preferred gpu my gps got. Double 60 to 120fps in my laptop 💻
Thanks for all this settings
You can actually capture the generated frames as well as the frame counter using OBS. Add "Game Capture" as a Source and choose "capture specific window". Choose LossLess Scaling and click "Ok". Once this is done, hop back in game, Alt + S (Default scaling key) and OBS will now record the generated frames as well. For reference, here is my LossLess Scaling video of Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K Resolution ULTRA Ray Tracing with the RX 7900 XT paired with Intel XeSS 1.3 "Balanced" Preset. FPS locked with RTSS @ 28FPS for stability
ruclips.net/video/7tKYSe5KLrY/видео.html
why mine when i use Lossless Scaling it decrease the fps ?
switch to window mode in your game and scale again
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If your game is at 70 FPS, the program will stabilize it at 60, and if your game is at 60, it will stabilize it at 50 FPS, and if your game is at 50, it will stabilize it at 40 FPs, but why can’t you get the same frame rate?
for me, when i enable lossless scaling, i just lose a bunch of fps. for example, i start with 40fps, i enable scaling, i drop to like 35fps, and when i enable lsfg 2x my base drops to like 15fps and then it doubles to 30fps, no matter what settings i use in game, or in the program or if its gpu bottleneck or cpu bottleneck, i always lose like half the fps. I tried to disable scaling, i still lose like 2/3 the fps when enabling frame gen. I tried this on 2 computers aswell, one high end and one low end
hey dude, i have your exact same problem and no solution so far. if you come across some magical end to the issue, please lmk
@@muha7408 i haven't found the solution but ill lyk if i do
@@snowball1792 You will always lose some FPS as this program still needs to use your gpu to work, it's whole thing is about taking 20% of your gpu power to output 100% more fps, so you go from 40fps to 30fps then double that to 60fps.
its almost like you didn't even read my comment, I go from like 40fps down to 15fps even when im not even gpu bottlenecked. So 15fps double to 30fps when originally i had 40fps. that makes no sense
@@snowball1792 Thats beyond the point, i was saying you will always reduce your base fps, now the thing of how much dependes on what configuration you are using, i know in my gpu, if i use anime4k at ultra large and 3x, my gpu consumption goes to 100% effectively cutting down my fps to like 5 base, so this configuration is not usable for me.
wonder if you can use it with chiaki for PS5 streaming?
I have been trying Lossless scaling on plutonium launcher (free call of duty). One of the games i play mw3 i typically get avg 130fps on medium to low settings. When i use Lossless scaling it literally makes everything worse i go from 130 to 50 or 88 fps and sometimes the lossless app will dissapear and my game will be locked at 60fps when i fullscreen it. Need explanation or help please.
u cant full screen, it only works on windowed mode, and u might need different settings for it to work well
@@wajahathussain4041 i did already
Also, why tf do you need more performance, is 130FPS not good enough ?
I don't know why I get even slower performance when I try it
For some reason I don’t see the tearing option. Also, I have drop downs like sync mode, max frame latency, etc. that I didn’t see on your screenshot. Maybe I have the updated version?
its not working for me it's staying locked at 60/60
Do you have a high refresh monitor or is it a 60hz one?
same here did you manaage to get it work?
@@DEN2REQUIN yeah I realized my issue. It seems I might have to get a higher refresh monitor.
is preset setting for all games ?
Does the game still have to be Windowed or Exclusive Fullscreen Mode
Windowed or borderless
I have a 1080p monitor with 60 HZ refresh rate. GPU is RX6600 XT. Cpu i5 12400F
I can almost always keep the 60 FPS without Lossless scaling, but i would like to use it to save Watts power consumption.
So i should set the FPS limit to 30 FPS, use 2X option and Windowed full screen mode, correct?
yep
30FPS is not an ideal base frame rate and 6600xt is a decently powerful GPU. 1080p 60hz is very low, maybe consider upgrading you monitor higher refresh rate vrr options.
do you have a preset thatis good but also doesnt impact tempersture alot?
i tested ur low end preset on intel 4000hd
my fps from 30 went on 20 or less :|
in gta 4
& 800 600 reaolution low setting
even lfsg 2 same shit
It made my fps go down
why does it happen that i dont feel the fps shown by ls why???????
Could you try using it on minecraft with/without shaders?
If you can give settings on low end pc would be great :)
in pcsx2 there is a hidden option in the ini file. Disable duplicated frames
It says "skip duplicate frames" Is it the same settings?
@@rotatinggear tools -> Show Advanced settings. Then in graphics settings you will see the advanced tab.
Could you elaborate the resolution scale section mate? Because I still got no clue whether should I leave it auto or do some tinkering like my mates do, somehow they put 2x scale. Anyways, appreciate it 👍
Hello, can you tell me what software you use to record the frame generation? My record results still on 30 fps even though i already scale the game
HWinfo64
Very good!!
Can I use radeon chill to lock my fps?
yes
I used the video tutorial, but when applied it looks like fisheye mode, why?
Not related but has anyone tried the Intel GPU's with emulation? With the price of GPU still hovering around the absurd was curious how they might perform in an emulation only build
can't use moonlight strreaming when lossless scaling is activated shows drm error and blackscreen is there any fix?
Try the borderless screen
For low end laptop with integrated graphic love from nepal
Does this work on steam deck yet?
can u use this for steam deck ?
If you have Windows on it, yes. It won't run on Steam OS.
Using this with emulators is fantastic!
LSc give much fps , but it is not smooth xpr....
how do you get the fps counter on top of your game? the FG one of course
HWinfo64
See for me mine says LSFG 2.2 and LSFG 1.1
Muchas gracias 😁
Sata Andagi!
3200 ram on the 10400f?
pls help i have 8gb ram and amd a12-9800 cpu with its integrated gpu the amd radeon r7 graphics but on any game i use lossles scaling i get worse fps for example fortnite i putted the res on 640 x 480 and i did the scaling automatic and amd fsr i did lsfg 2.1 and 2x but i get even worse fps than before
Your computer is just too weak to handle it properly. Also you should never use frame multiplying techniques on competitive games. It adds too much latency.
@@kennaee yeah after some research I did find it out on old games it worked but with much latenzy and really old shitty games so I just refunded it thx for the reply
I need to ask, how do we record the lossless scaling with obs ?
There are two tutorials directly on the LS Discord. I tried both for several days without success, so I ended up using an external capture card. I know that with AMD software, it records normally, but with Nvidia Shadow and OBS, I couldn't get it to work in any way.
@@AlexwpiGameNVidia only work with NVidia App.
No more GeForce Experience shadowplay
thank you for the info and testing!!1!!!!❤
My question is why my in game fps drops to half ? I get 200fps shit drops down to 70 and add tons of input lag scalless says 200fps but visually doesn’t show it I feel like this is a scam fr
Is there any fix for blur edges it's really distracting
Same
I definitely want to play Bayonetta again I forgot I have I have it the time I played audio was out sync with constant stutters and it ruined my experience I've been using this on Horizon Forbidden west
test nintendo emulated games like zelda’s pot twilight princess wind waker
how to detect framegen fps monitor in msi afterburner
Use HWinfo64
Hey bro its imposible Gt6 dont run good in your pc i have GTX 1070 and ryzen 5 - 4500 and works good, i think you need specific config
Your processor has up to 25% more performance than mine, and RPCS3 is completely CPU-bound.
@@AlexwpiGameno, Ryzen 4500 is slower than Core i5 10400F.
All Ryzen 4000 are bad in general. Ryzen 5000 is another league
does it works with fullscreen games?
why do people always ask dumb question...
@@itzdcx7991 why would that be a dumb question?
no fullscreen
only windowed or borderless
not dumb question
maybe be helpful instead of being a jerk @@itzdcx7991
@@tankerock what if game don't have windowed or borderless features like in older games then what should i do ?
thx mate
I have Frame riss when im turning on frame genaration i have no idea if it was worth it to buy this crap :D 5€
What I'm struggling with is the auto scaling mode. I set everything up but no matter what, when I launch the game it doesn't auto scale
Then its your systems scaling. Config vid set. Aspect Ratio or smn like that.
don't go in fullscreen, and do it manual by pressing CTRL ALT S
@@305VERSATILE idk you'll have to help me understand that.
Yeah, I can do it that way and it works fine. 🤷🏾♂️ Just an extra step that id like to remove for a more seamless experience.
Not sure why every game I test is about 20% slower motion, turning off Vsync Gsync wont help
Are you locking at 20fps?
You will always lose some FPS as this program still needs to use your gpu to work, it's whole thing is about taking 20% of your gpu power to output 100% more fps, so you go from 40fps to 30fps then double that to 60fps.
Why does my Lossless Scaling only have version 2.0?
Right-click on LLS > Go to Properties > Beta tab > Participation in beta version = beta-beta
@@AlexwpiGame no。still only 2.0version
What fps counter you using to see frame gen?
HWinfo64
@@AlexwpiGame Can you make a video tutorial about it? I'm using MSI Afterburner and unfortunately it doesn't show the frame gen fps.
@@AlexwpiGame can you make a tutorial to get the fram gen counter please
sadly i doesnt work or im just dumb but good video
alt tab out the game it doesnt work for fullscreen for me
Can you test on rac a crack in timw
Using shadow pc on 4k with 100% scaling and 32 mods like promods and trucks etc i get around 35fps. Would this be any benefit in getting higer fps?
Main thing about it is that you need atleast consistent frames so once you cap your game at a consistent frame then you can use x2 or x3 to multiple your frames
Yes, cap the game to 28 - 32 fps using RivaTuner and set frame generation to 2x for the best balance between smoothness and latency
Will give it another go later but when I tried it before I got major lag and fps was showing 500 to 600fps but the picture was more like 22fps
I use a 55inch tv which can go up to 4k, should I set it to 1080p res or 1440p etc?
@@SwordDestin it also depends what hz your tv is cause of its like 60 and you cap it at 30 then it cap allocate the rendered frames to all the slots if its even then it won’t be true fps for whatever you want
no entiendo nada de ingles pero, amigo, enserio muchas gracias
Usa los subtítulos en español.
@@AlexwpiGame thank you for your video. I use it for zelda totk very great.
You may help me. On my notebook losslessscaling run great. But on my tv samsung 120 hz, Losslessscaling is buggy: I ve 5 fps in totk for exemple. 5 fps always. Any idea?
So.... what's the benefits? I mean if your game is not running on 30 fps then you probably cannot use it as your gpu will already be using 100% and as you said this thing needs 25% of my gpu so what is the benefit?
Did u see the N direct? what did you think of it? personally, I'm waiting like crazy for Mario & Luigi and especially MP4!
How to record on obs with losess scaling?
There's a way on the lossless scaign discord
Once you join it should be in 'highlights' scroll up till you see something about obs recording
Switch from the DXGI capture mode to WGC
Very Amazing Video 🎉
Sir From That Thing
If I Use Laptop Which Have Ryzen 7 8845Hs With Rtx 4060 And Maybe They Will Give Constant 40+ Fps Then I Use This Thing Then Should I Have Got Any 😅You Know
Or Else Ill Be Fine Ill Be Good
And Play Game 😅Or I Need To 30 Fps I Mean You Know What I Mean To Say
And Please Test God Of War Ascension
Infamous Series
Uncharted Series
Sir Those Game Are Mostly Demanding Sir Please Try That
Tell Me One Thing What Are More Important On That Cpu Or Gpu I Am Talking About For Only God Of War Series Uncharted Series And Infamous Series
One more thing:
If you have any kind of Antivirus, whitelist this App in the Antivirus.
So it doesn't get interrupted by Antivirus Mem-scan.
Good looking. Thanks.
As much as I don’t like frame generation, it is nice on older games and emulators
I thought I would hate it too. Recently tried Remnant 2 and decided to try frame generation from inside the game and I honestly see no errors with it. I have a 360hz monitor and use most of my time playing CS at locked 360hz/360 fps so I thought I would notice every artifact and latency increase but nope, don't notice it lol. Crazy how good technology is nowdays.
3x mode doesnt cause more latency.
It does
Is ist for computer or android?
Pc
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mais BR que vira-lata caramelo
dont use this on a emulator..... the games are still rendered in low fps and this programm automatically lowers the framerate too, its even worse on games which are bound to the fps are instantly slow because they render in 30fps in the background. there are also games which starts to lag below a certain fps or doing unespected behavior.
No.
I've tested on a few emulated games and it's been amazing
try magpie.easy to use.stable and smooth
do you have a preset thatis good but also doesnt impact tempersture alot?
is losssless scaling good for competitive ggames?
The upscaling is but the frame generation isn't.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat which one the lossless scaling does? has anyone tried it with xDefiant for example?