LS is getting a triple fps tomorrow. I remember buying this app for my Steam Deck back when it was only an upscaler. Now it has frame gen. Crazy that this program keeps getting updates
@@divyrajesharora2497 I turn on vsync on MSFS then I limit FPS by checking the option 50% screen refresh rate (my monitor is 60 Hz so I get 30 fps limited). With LL I am able to fly all the time 60 fps. Without LL and MSFS fps limitation, it runs with 32 to 40 fps, but not smooth and stuttering. MSFS works much better if limiting fps btw.
Does turning vsync on and then limiting fps in game is okay?
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Bought this when it was only an up scaler, now with frame gen, it's a real treasure for my old ass GPU. Absolutely amazing! The latency is there and I would never use in a competitive game, but for a single player game where latency isn't that big of an issue, it's a great stuff!
RTSS saved my gaming performance. I have very good specs but across the board lots of stutters. Capping my fps with that software made my gaming experience great
@@rakhoo5236 I don't know the tech behind it but using RTSS to cap each games framerate removes almost all stutters I was getting when using other methods like nVidia control panel. Good luck.
@@fuqis tried it in elden ring, hogwarts legacy, lords of the fallen, unoptimized roblox game, terraria modded, all getting smooth fps with little to no latency
Just bought LS 3.0. Having never used it before this and I am completely blown away. I have a 3060 TI and it allows me now to completely max out every game and still get over 60 FPS give yourself an hour to really learn the ins and outs from some excellent RUclips videos out there and you won’t regret it. At seven bucks it’s quite literally a major upgrade for whatever graphics card you own.
Bought it 2 days ago and it works like a charm. Currently using it for Wuthering Waves and also tested it shortly in Path of Exile. [Might start playing again thanks to it, since the performance bothered me that much.] If it helps, remove frame limiter and adjust your monitors refresh rate from like 144hz down to 120hz. Still testing alot.
When I got an OLED I suddenly started noticing terrible judder with animation, especially with slow panning shots. LSFG isn’t perfect, but it’s an improvement & cheaper than SVP (so far it looks better than SVP’s live RIFE). I really hope more people put effort into video frame Gen.
I bought this for minecraft. AND I AM NEVER GOING BACK. This is the only way to get frame gen on java and i dont think any modders will add fsr or dlss fg to minecraft because of it being built in opengl 3 (optifine and sodium override it with opengl 4.3 iirc)
@@MrSp33dyNL even before roblox allowed to uncap FPS within their client I used some other ways. I use Fflaggs to tweak my game. Tbh it does work I just had hoped that I would double my current FPS since it's decent to good. It's useful if your PC has problems to run roblox at a consistent stable rate I don't know if I should use it in that instance tho.
Lossless scaling is truly a game-changer. I use it to play games on my 165Hz monitor that would otherwise be locked at 60fps. In some cases where UI is prevalent, it suffers, but oftentimes the smoothness truly makes a difference. For example: most Sonic games feel like night-and-day.
LSFG used to produce nasty artifacts at lower base fps, but the latest updates brought huge improvements. It works wonders on my PC, I only wish it would also run on the Steam Deck. 😊
Yea, game felt smooth but if you have low refresh rate(60hz/75hz) and use half of the framerate for these Hz(30/38fps), you may notice the delays latency on some games especially games that require aiming or somewhat fast-paced gameplay.
@@swiftypopty1102 I'd suggest you limit the base fps with RTSS, and don't use the Hz cap at all. From my experience, that works much better. So on my 144Hz panel for example, I limit demanding games to 36 fps with RTSS, then upscale the resolution to 72 (half my monitor's refresh rate) for smooth gameplay, but leave the vertical sync setting either completely unchecked, or set to max refresh rate.
@@t0uchme343 yeah, that would work in theory. But I hate Windows on the Deck. 😉 And running it off an sd card is a pain in the butt, particularly if I want to play Baldur's Gate 3.
@@swiftypopty1102That's because you're truly playing the game on 30fps which has latency. Frame gen shouldn't be even used for competitive shooters lol
This works great now for Tales of Symphonia. A game notorious for it's 30fps cap. With this program, you can now play it at 60fps and it plays pretty smoothly as well. There's some visual artifacts, but it's not TOO distracting, especially after the latest update they just released.
srsly even if you dont plan on using this or need it but you care about pc gaming at all, just buy the app to support the dev, its amazing what is accomplished with this, so many gamers on older setups will benefit from this.
Its crazy how perfect it is. Played elden ring for the first time after 160 hours with actual smooth gameplay and upscaling made it look actually better (all textures are sharp and 120 fps)
How does it work for you? There is no improvement in performance. I only see numbers without any improvement in performance. The numbers are fake.@@4krll
you can also use it to dooble the fps from movies :D i watched Transformers in 48fps :D the movie looked very smooth.. never saw something like this before
Yeah But it removes the cinematic feeling u know. Films are meant to be rendered at 24 fps. If u use LS on movies they will look like those anime edits on tiktok
I bought this program and this video is so informative thank you. I have a Nvidia GTS 450 and i hope i can bring some more frames using frame generation to games like lethal company where i get 30 fps sharp.
yeah, aynthing where reaction times need to be as tight as humanly possible is not a good use for this, since it inevetably does increase input latency and general rendering latency. but yeah, cities skylines 2 for example runs marvelously with that installed...
@@KhaziirEverflight meh i run it with fortnite and warzone cuz its really well optimized, as long as your base frames are above 60 it should be fine (if you do the math the latency + frame response is still well under the fastest feasible human reaction time). I was really more highlighting how messy reticles and cross hairs can look sometimes. The only real argument then there imo is frame delivery, which is more dependent on ping than anything. At 15ms ping an online game can only provide
Back in the day people used to get more performance with overclocking, but now as components are ran at the limit out of the box it isn't something you can do anymore (Which is nice thing because the components overclock themselves automatically. For example modern GPUs don't run at static clock speeds, but automatically adjust according to temperature, power limit, load etc. So it's like auto overclocking). So having frame generation is nice new way to get extra fps ^^
Actually the perfect use for it since modded Skyrim can break in some ways if you play on more than 60 (actual) FPS. I'll be using this tool to play Lorerim and Nolvus, so excited.
This app is fantastic as it is, upscaling and frame generation on my 2600x and rx580 improved dramatically while running this software, with few graphical aberrations. However, the input lag is noticeable. Do with that information what you will.
I use this to play games full screen and move the mouse from a screen to another, framegen in every game and also unlocks any game from 60fps, really useful in wuthering waves, souls games and Japanese games. Won’t work with games that already use framegen like cyberpunk. Tested with 4070ti
Was having issues playing the new Elden Ring dlc (dropping to 30 fps consistently) so bought this for C$10 and it instantly made my game so smooth, I wish that I wouldve bought this earlier best 10 bucks spent in a long time.
I have a very modest setup (RTX 2060 6gb + i511400F + 32gb 2,666 mhz + sata3 ssd + 60hz monitor) and I play any map with FPS locked at 60fps. 1) In the nvida dashboard: MANAGE 3D SETTINGS - in the DSR factors option: I chose the scale 1.78x (2560x1440) - in the DSR smoothness option: I left it at zero CHANGE RESOLUTION - I changed the resolution to (2560x1440). 2) IN THE GAME SPTARKOV GRAPHICS: - in the SCREEN RESOLUTION option: I changed it to (2560x1440) - in the SCREEN MODE option: I changed it to BORDERLESS WINDOW - in the FPS LIMIT option: set 30fps Click save and don't close the game, open the LOSSLESS program. 3) IN THE LOSSLESS program - in the APPLICATION METHOD option: deactivated - in the FRAME GENERATION option: choose LSFG 2.2 - in the MODE option: 2x - in the DISPLAY FPS option: on. Go back to the game, press CTRL+ALT+S and the limit fps (30) / generated fps (60) will be shown. Play and be happy.
this is great for single player games not so much multiplayer. However the absolute best use ive found is actually watching YT, seriously you can triple a videos fps and the input delay dosent matter at all its awesome for watching fast paced gameplay!!
I bought it 3 day ago. Very very satisfying to use with Ark Ascended, BUT more than x2 the latency really start to show. X4 is a no go at all. Atleast with Ark. And imo playing a fps game with LSFG is a no go. But for adventure games, and maybe rpg and moba it should really shine. Anyways superhappy using LFSG with Ark
FYI this works on videos and internet content and movies as well! You can watch animations in 60+ fps due to this, even this video. Just use the scale option while watching.
Correct me if im wrong, but if you get 60 fps with a native frametime of 16.67ms and you are using this software to generate frames you wont get 8.33ms on 120 fps right? Because it does not generate frames in engine but only records the game. + it adds its own latency to it, so you would have worse frametimes than native, in this case something like 17.67-18.67ms. I had this happen to me in Horizon Forbidden West, my frames were good with a framegen mod but the game still felt like im playing on high frametimes.
I really want to know what the difference is between AFMF and Lossless Scaling frame gen is. As far as I know they should be doing the same thing, so I guess the outcome SHOULD be the same regardless but I'm not sure...
@@NesplayerX9 yes they do the same thing and afmf can be stacked with fsr3 frame generation so i think this will stack on top of both of them. like call of duty for example it has fsr3 frame generation and AFMF can be activated on top of the fsr 3 frame generation
Its great when - You have 120hz display and you pc can handle 40 FIXED fps - Your pc isn't the bottleneck, cause if it goes 100% load or throttling - it will just create stutters If your display is 60hz and pc can make steady 40fps - its better to stay at it then use LSFG, you will have not as fluid but more smooth and consistent gameplay.
While I dont necessarily need it, I just bought it earlier tho. But I do notice a difference with AMD fluid motion and lossless scaling. With fluid motion i get over 160fps (on my 144hz screen) in bf2042 for example, but when I quickly move my mouse (which is how FPS basically is supposed to be played) my frames drop down to 78. But with lossless scaling I get 110 at its lowest and 144fps max. Before using lossless scaling I just lock my fps to 72 for bf2042. Does feel a bit smoother as well tho. But with higher demanding games it would be so useful for me as well
Question if I’m capped at a 60hz monitor can I just use this to get 120fps in a game with 60hz still. I just need more fps in my games because I average like 40fps on my low end laptop.
Great review. My only concern is compatibiliy with VRR displays. I have 3 1440P 144hz VRR displays on my main setup and then my two TVs are 120hz VRR TVs from Sony and LG. Do I have disable Gync in Nvidia Control panel or does the program not work at all if I'm connected to VRR displays? I don't have any display that's fixed anymore.
No need to turn VRR off. The app works regardless of VRR or not, it just doesn't take advantage of it. Just make sure you are running a stable locked frame rate that's dividable by your display's refresh rate.
Pretty much. Sadly adds noise (or makes it harder to remove in post with gate/changing volume). Quite literally only works as a gate for Discord/streaming - and those I could really do in software anyway. I didn't need analogue processing in my setup, but I invested in this a long time ago and had it ever since.
@@TroubleChute does the dbx play nice with things like nvidia broadcast & geforce experience? I noticed a lot of others myself included have sound issues with DAC's and nvidia broadcast & geforce experience recording some days it works some days I spend 8 hours fixing the pops crackles and distortions. Currently running a 2i2 focusrite.
@@DenzelWashingMachine dbx isn't usb. It's just a preamp processor. Sits in between the XLR out of your mic, and the XLR in on your interface. I have the Audient iD14 sitting on top, as the DAC, to get it into my pc. So yes, being an analogue device it doesn't have any effect on specific software. The changing volume (noise gate, compressor, limiter etc) may have strange effects with programs that automatically adjust volume or something, sure
Bru how do you always have the tutorials for the things I need. Just got star citizen and it runs as well as an old nan on an overly large hampster wheel
Haha, not any Gpu, let alone my 1650. Although hotline miami and crazy taxi both run great at 4k 144hz using the 2x scaling option, 3x creates some obvious artifacting
Lukefz fsr 3 mod works really good , I have 1660 ti , I can even run some of the ray tracing mods with it lol , doom classic , quake 1 , quake 2 rtx 👍 also Last of us , but new Nvidia driver is messing with that game now with memory error... I heard you gotta roll back
@@DrGreenThumbNZL yeah I had to do that in cyberpunk 2077 once since the skin in the character creator was like a shadow figure till I rolled my drivers back, first game so far.
I believe that in the future we will have something called cloud GPUS where we can connect to our main laptop or pc and play games with a GPU through the cloud. I feel like this is possible but hard to create but hey look at cloud pcs now.
I wish I could utilize the frame generation but I play on a 4K TV which maxes out at 60 fps so I have to set my max frame rate to 30 and the wavy effect at the bottom of the screen is very noticeable. Still... $8 (in Canada) is worth it for the upscaling so I'll consider it money well spent.
I have bought it recently, but I found out that it doesn't really help as much as I thought. The upscaling and frame-generation features aren't computationally free. You're giving up some FPS to use those features, on which frame generation is performed on. So instead of doubling your FPS, it's more like increasing FPS by 50%. I'd say it shines the most for games with a 30 or 60 FPS cap and you have a high-refresh rate monitor, to then turn on frame interpolation. The upscaling feature isn't that massive, NVIDIA and AMD have both their built-in driver settings for upscaling.
In my case its almost not worth it to use it, lsfg ends up using between 30-40% gpu. So I have to choose, 80 native frames per second or 50 upscaled to 100 interpolated.
What sorcery is this... This software actually doubled my FPS when playing Re4 Remake from 30 to 60! Well... 720p My laptop specs: Ryzen 5 6600H Radeon 660 (iGPU)
AFMF disables itself when the motion moves too fast like you flicking your camera. This program is on always and will interpolate every frame it captures all the time.
Could you explain further how you captured the game with the lossless scaling using OBS? Did you use game, window, or display capture? And did you configure any settings on OBS too?
Does it need a minimum DirectX Version by the game used? What is about Vulkan/OpenGL? If a game has a 60fps internal hardcap, can I use this to get e.g. 120 fps out of it? Will OBS capture the regular output or the LS Output?
Great for games that don't have native upscale or frame generation. I've had issues with titles that already provide this. Lowering frames down to 20 or causing ctd.
Thanks for the video man. Would’ve had no idea about this without you covering it. Any idea how it performs on Vulkan API? Also, any testing on if it plays nice with ReShade and/or ENB?
This essentially records your screen, and broadcasts it right over your screen. Anything running on your game should work with this. In-game FX mods, probably. Overlays? I'm not sure.
To bad this only works on One monitor.. i try it for MSFS2020 on triple screen . it only renders one screen . but it works realy amazing for single screen .. i hope they wil fix it for triple screen in the future ,,
People used to joke about downloading extra fps, but look where we are now.
True
bruh XD
Wait when u'll be able to TRIPLE UR FPS with the update of the 6th june lol
@@ocerco93huh!!!!???
@InternalxHD not just stupid but most decently as virus :D
LS is getting a triple fps tomorrow. I remember buying this app for my Steam Deck back when it was only an upscaler. Now it has frame gen. Crazy that this program keeps getting updates
does this work on the Steam Deck's SteamOS or are you using it in Windows?
@@tidjane2001 you would have to install windows, doesn't work with SteamOS
I bought it rn just for the sake of getting it cheap, I'm sure this software will be much more expensive in the future as it improves.
>doesn't work with SteamOS
FUCK
Of course it was too good of a thought to be real 😭
@@RandommBoyo it works with Steam Deck if you install windows on it
2024: Download more fps becomes reality
2025: Download more RAM becomes reality
2026: Download a new CPU
2037: Download a whole new pc
2047: download anything
U can already download virtual ram through windows
@@KoregaKaed isn't that technically those game streaming services Nvidia has?
@@nagiaoe2434you can turn some of your SSD to Vram. SSD is same tech as ram is.
Lossless scaling is a game changer for me when playing Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 with my GTX 1660 Super
Where do you limit your fps before scaling?
@@divyrajesharora2497 I turn on vsync on MSFS then I limit FPS by checking the option 50% screen refresh rate (my monitor is 60 Hz so I get 30 fps limited).
With LL I am able to fly all the time 60 fps. Without LL and MSFS fps limitation, it runs with 32 to 40 fps, but not smooth and stuttering.
MSFS works much better if limiting fps btw.
@@divyrajesharora2497 RTSS works well.
@@malvinchau2056any FG works better with locked fps below your avg fps since it has stable frame time
Does turning vsync on and then limiting fps in game is okay?
Bought this when it was only an up scaler, now with frame gen, it's a real treasure for my old ass GPU. Absolutely amazing! The latency is there and I would never use in a competitive game, but for a single player game where latency isn't that big of an issue, it's a great stuff!
My biggest take away from this when i saw another RUclipsr talking about it, i hope this person gets a great payday or great job
There's a big update coming out on June 6th for 2.9, you should cover it. This, afterburner and RTSS are my best pieces of software I have installed.
RTSS saved my gaming performance. I have very good specs but across the board lots of stutters. Capping my fps with that software made my gaming experience great
@@darrenjk5438can’t you cap FPS with nvidia control panel? Or am I missing something? Might look into RTSS dunno what it is but sounds interesting.
@@rakhoo5236 I think its much easier to use rtss, plus rtss has a nice overlay you can customize
@@rakhoo5236 I don't know the tech behind it but using RTSS to cap each games framerate removes almost all stutters I was getting when using other methods like nVidia control panel. Good luck.
@@rakhoo5236 IME, RTSS gives much more stable frametimes.
i tested this program on old games that can only be played with 30 fps, now i got 60 or 90fps thats magic.
will it work on command & conquer games?
I just bought this software because of your video, its actually a game changer and worth every penny. Thank you for this video
in what tho
@@fuqis tried it in elden ring, hogwarts legacy, lords of the fallen, unoptimized roblox game, terraria modded, all getting smooth fps with little to no latency
@@HRrene bro wtf are you even testing in terraria its capped to 60fps anyway
@@kgldjkgur2046 its not capped at 60 js turn off frame skip, I played modded terraria so some bosses gets huge frame drops
@@HRreneTried it on Elden ring and got smooth fps, but got major latency input issues
Been using this awesome software for the last 2 months. Works as stated.
Yes i tried this on cyberpunk i max all the graphics settings and 1440p i get 34 fps when i applied this i get 100+fps for real what a game changer
broo it doesnt work for me, how did you manage to get it to work?
Try some different settings like, borderless fullscreen, full screen, try to Activate the lossless scaling using hotkeys inside the game, etc
It won't work if you use Fullscreen change it to borderless window
@@MohaModzClipzOfc ill try, thanks man
@@4thmind476 they say it works with borderless fullscreen, right?
I tried this app two days ago, and now i rewatching my favorite movie Game of throne at 60fps. This is so amazing 🤣🤣
Just bought LS 3.0. Having never used it before this and I am completely blown away. I have a 3060 TI and it allows me now to completely max out every game and still get over 60 FPS give yourself an hour to really learn the ins and outs from some excellent RUclips videos out there and you won’t regret it. At seven bucks it’s quite literally a major upgrade for whatever graphics card you own.
Bought it 2 days ago and it works like a charm. Currently using it for Wuthering Waves and also tested it shortly in Path of Exile. [Might start playing again thanks to it, since the performance bothered me that much.]
If it helps, remove frame limiter and adjust your monitors refresh rate from like 144hz down to 120hz. Still testing alot.
How's the performance on wuthering waves? Are you playing with a controller or mnk?
It was so wild seeing ww enthusiasts in the reviews of the lossless scaling app. I m myself desire for wurther some waves at better frames.
@@sonuspark155 literally zero impact on latency and smooth 120 fps on mine
ive bought this app and its amazing im actually really impressed !
It's also usable on videos! You can actually use framegen on anything, even video players.
120fps 4k porn
When I got an OLED I suddenly started noticing terrible judder with animation, especially with slow panning shots.
LSFG isn’t perfect, but it’s an improvement & cheaper than SVP (so far it looks better than SVP’s live RIFE).
I really hope more people put effort into video frame Gen.
Love it. Thanks for this.
I bought LLS today and its banger, with it you can actually play 4k240fps (240hz base monitor with game upscaled to 4k)
I bought this for minecraft. AND I AM NEVER GOING BACK. This is the only way to get frame gen on java and i dont think any modders will add fsr or dlss fg to minecraft because of it being built in opengl 3 (optifine and sodium override it with opengl 4.3 iirc)
Aint no way, this really works on java?
@MrSp33dyNL IT WORKS, ITS THE ONLY REASON I GOT IT. HELL I WOULD EVEN PAY 20 USD FOR THIS. 7 DOLLARS IS A STEAL. Go get it, it's so worth it
@@MrSp33dyNL I actually tried this on Roblox true, still trying to get it to work
@@I.58.I roblox has their fps locked at 60, have you tried unlocking fps? After that then try frame gen out.
@@MrSp33dyNL even before roblox allowed to uncap FPS within their client I used some other ways. I use Fflaggs to tweak my game. Tbh it does work I just had hoped that I would double my current FPS since it's decent to good. It's useful if your PC has problems to run roblox at a consistent stable rate I don't know if I should use it in that instance tho.
I must say , appart from games , watching anime at 60+ fps with anime4k upscaling is such a wonderful thing , cant watch anime without it anymore
Lossless scaling is truly a game-changer. I use it to play games on my 165Hz monitor that would otherwise be locked at 60fps. In some cases where UI is prevalent, it suffers, but oftentimes the smoothness truly makes a difference. For example: most Sonic games feel like night-and-day.
LSFG used to produce nasty artifacts at lower base fps, but the latest updates brought huge improvements. It works wonders on my PC, I only wish it would also run on the Steam Deck. 😊
Yea, game felt smooth but if you have low refresh rate(60hz/75hz) and use half of the framerate for these Hz(30/38fps), you may notice the delays latency on some games especially games that require aiming or somewhat fast-paced gameplay.
@@swiftypopty1102 I'd suggest you limit the base fps with RTSS, and don't use the Hz cap at all. From my experience, that works much better. So on my 144Hz panel for example, I limit demanding games to 36 fps with RTSS, then upscale the resolution to 72 (half my monitor's refresh rate) for smooth gameplay, but leave the vertical sync setting either completely unchecked, or set to max refresh rate.
Just make a windeck.
@@t0uchme343 yeah, that would work in theory. But I hate Windows on the Deck. 😉 And running it off an sd card is a pain in the butt, particularly if I want to play Baldur's Gate 3.
@@swiftypopty1102That's because you're truly playing the game on 30fps which has latency.
Frame gen shouldn't be even used for competitive shooters lol
This works great now for Tales of Symphonia. A game notorious for it's 30fps cap. With this program, you can now play it at 60fps and it plays pretty smoothly as well. There's some visual artifacts, but it's not TOO distracting, especially after the latest update they just released.
srsly even if you dont plan on using this or need it but you care about pc gaming at all, just buy the app to support the dev, its amazing what is accomplished with this, so many gamers on older setups will benefit from this.
Bro what, “buy the app even if you don’t use it” genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever read
For game like Elden ring and some locked at 60fps this is perfect!
The exact game I bought the software for
Its crazy how perfect it is. Played elden ring for the first time after 160 hours with actual smooth gameplay and upscaling made it look actually better (all textures are sharp and 120 fps)
What are your settings in LS?
@@PinePizza currently fullscreen, fsr, x2/x3
from 60 to 120/165 fps depending os ingame settings
How does it work for you? There is no improvement in performance. I only see numbers without any improvement in performance. The numbers are fake.@@4krll
you can also use it to dooble the fps from movies :D i watched Transformers in 48fps :D the movie looked very smooth.. never saw something like this before
Yeah
But it removes the cinematic feeling u know. Films are meant to be rendered at 24 fps. If u use LS on movies they will look like those anime edits on tiktok
@@methmaranaveera3273I agree, I tried using it on youtube with infinity war as a test and looks cool but feels weird and sped up a bit.
On porn also.
Wtf 😂😂@@TillTheLightTakesUs
In which program?
I bought this program and this video is so informative thank you. I have a Nvidia GTS 450 and i hope i can bring some more frames using frame generation to games like lethal company where i get 30 fps sharp.
damn you should get something like used 1050 ti. The performance uplift would be insane for you.
@@megapet777 sure man thanks
does it work mate? For lethal company
@@josephray6264 well lethal company was the game i got LSFG for and nope it doesnt work, ur character becomes slowmo.
I dont think the upscaleing part is really working but the frame generation part is amazing btw.
Command and Conquer Generals w this thing is epic.
Nostalgia trips have never had more FRAMES.
the frame gen is great in RTS and 3rd person RPGs - FPS games are kinda rough but still playable
yeah, aynthing where reaction times need to be as tight as humanly possible is not a good use for this, since it inevetably does increase input latency and general rendering latency. but yeah, cities skylines 2 for example runs marvelously with that installed...
@@KhaziirEverflight meh i run it with fortnite and warzone cuz its really well optimized, as long as your base frames are above 60 it should be fine (if you do the math the latency + frame response is still well under the fastest feasible human reaction time). I was really more highlighting how messy reticles and cross hairs can look sometimes.
The only real argument then there imo is frame delivery, which is more dependent on ping than anything. At 15ms ping an online game can only provide
I can't wait to test it on my Ryzen 3 2200U, Vega 3 laptop
btw, this has its biggest value in generating extra frames for video. YT videos have never looked as good at 180fps
Back in the day people used to get more performance with overclocking, but now as components are ran at the limit out of the box it isn't something you can do anymore (Which is nice thing because the components overclock themselves automatically. For example modern GPUs don't run at static clock speeds, but automatically adjust according to temperature, power limit, load etc. So it's like auto overclocking). So having frame generation is nice new way to get extra fps ^^
I've been using this to play Skyrim at 120fps and it works so well
Actually the perfect use for it since modded Skyrim can break in some ways if you play on more than 60 (actual) FPS.
I'll be using this tool to play Lorerim and Nolvus, so excited.
This app is fantastic as it is, upscaling and frame generation on my 2600x and rx580 improved dramatically while running this software, with few graphical aberrations. However, the input lag is noticeable. Do with that information what you will.
I use this to play games full screen and move the mouse from a screen to another, framegen in every game and also unlocks any game from 60fps, really useful in wuthering waves, souls games and Japanese games. Won’t work with games that already use framegen like cyberpunk. Tested with 4070ti
Was having issues playing the new Elden Ring dlc (dropping to 30 fps consistently) so bought this for C$10 and it instantly made my game so smooth, I wish that I wouldve bought this earlier best 10 bucks spent in a long time.
This is awesome, dankie!
I have a legion pro 5i with a 4070 only has 8 GB vram so this will help with future AAA games to play great.
The fact that this software alone beats both the big boys of the GPU market in terms of Frame Generation is kind of mind boggling.
I have a very modest setup (RTX 2060 6gb + i511400F + 32gb 2,666 mhz + sata3 ssd + 60hz monitor) and I play any map with FPS locked at 60fps.
1) In the nvida dashboard:
MANAGE 3D SETTINGS
- in the DSR factors option: I chose the scale 1.78x (2560x1440)
- in the DSR smoothness option: I left it at zero
CHANGE RESOLUTION
- I changed the resolution to (2560x1440).
2) IN THE GAME SPTARKOV
GRAPHICS:
- in the SCREEN RESOLUTION option: I changed it to (2560x1440)
- in the SCREEN MODE option: I changed it to BORDERLESS WINDOW
- in the FPS LIMIT option: set 30fps
Click save and don't close the game, open the LOSSLESS program.
3) IN THE LOSSLESS program
- in the APPLICATION METHOD option: deactivated
- in the FRAME GENERATION option: choose LSFG 2.2
- in the MODE option: 2x
- in the DISPLAY FPS option: on.
Go back to the game, press CTRL+ALT+S and the limit fps (30) / generated fps (60) will be shown. Play and be happy.
this is great for single player games not so much multiplayer. However the absolute best use ive found is actually watching YT, seriously you can triple a videos fps and the input delay dosent matter at all its awesome for watching fast paced gameplay!!
lol genius
El programa presentado, si funciona. Ya lo he probado y es increíble que algo así funcione. ❤
Jugando al mod Begin Again para el juego fallout 3.
Nice ! 💯🔥
This program made me happy with frame generation again. I tried amd AMFR before but image quality was much worse than with this program.
real time interpolated frames is really really cool, looks better than what I use which is flowframes
I love lossless it changed my Tarkov life especially in pve
Damm.. I have this app like for years and never really use it. 😂 Thanks man. ❤
I bought it 3 day ago. Very very satisfying to use with Ark Ascended, BUT more than x2 the latency really start to show. X4 is a no go at all. Atleast with Ark. And imo playing a fps game with LSFG is a no go. But for adventure games, and maybe rpg and moba it should really shine. Anyways superhappy using LFSG with Ark
1:05 someone walks behind you in a weird way, sweep the house for people phrogging
Yes I am enjoying GZW with my 3rd gen ryzen and rx 6800
Got an 8x in msfs 2020 with nVidia's frame gen + ls @4x. Just for curiosity and it worked and quality was fine
Great comparison, 3x frame gen test next?
With a VRR monitor locking to 40 to output 80 is the sweet spot.
VRR doesn't work with the app so it's useless having it enabled
@@FS-zt6tm not if it's locked. I love 40 fps and get no tearing
@@devonmarr9872 yea but VRR isn't doing anything to prevent tearing in this case. Having a locked frame rate is what's preventing tearing
@TroubleChute wait until June 6 too!
What's happening then?
EDIT: Ah, I see:
"3X frame generation and some performance improvements"
Fantastic!
@@TroubleChutewhat does 3x frame generation mean?
@@HRrene if you get 40 fps without the app you can multiply it to 120 using it
@@thepaperninja3123ahh alr
£4.50 on sale on steam.
WWE 2k24 capped at 30 for entrances, i could feel 60fps
Hey Fellow South African!!!!
FYI this works on videos and internet content and movies as well! You can watch animations in 60+ fps due to this, even this video. Just use the scale option while watching.
Just tried it with darktide its awesome
Correct me if im wrong, but if you get 60 fps with a native frametime of 16.67ms and you are using this software to generate frames you wont get 8.33ms on 120 fps right? Because it does not generate frames in engine but only records the game. + it adds its own latency to it, so you would have worse frametimes than native, in this case something like 17.67-18.67ms. I had this happen to me in Horizon Forbidden West, my frames were good with a framegen mod but the game still felt like im playing on high frametimes.
yep.
That's why this is much more suited for single player, slow paced games
Looks amazing.
the idea of doing in game frame generation + amd AFMF + lossless frame generation came to my mind
I really want to know what the difference is between AFMF and Lossless Scaling frame gen is. As far as I know they should be doing the same thing, so I guess the outcome SHOULD be the same regardless but I'm not sure...
@@NesplayerX9 yes they do the same thing and afmf can be stacked with fsr3 frame generation so i think this will stack on top of both of them. like call of duty for example it has fsr3 frame generation and AFMF can be activated on top of the fsr 3 frame generation
I tried FSR3 frame gen + lossless frame gen and i got 240fps (from about 60). There was about half a second of input lat 😂
Edit: In witcher 3
@@MasculinitySimplified101 you should also use AFMF on top of them in the radeon software and make it a 1 second delay and get 480fps😂
not only triple fps in game, you can triple your fps in any video too, im now watching every single film with 75fps from 24 :)
Its great when
- You have 120hz display and you pc can handle 40 FIXED fps
- Your pc isn't the bottleneck, cause if it goes 100% load or throttling - it will just create stutters
If your display is 60hz and pc can make steady 40fps - its better to stay at it then use LSFG, you will have not as fluid but more smooth and consistent gameplay.
Yes, worth it. Mainly on games that dont have any type of upscalling.
Note for Nvidia users, please turn off the vsync in Nvidia Control Panel app otherwise you'll be capped at 60 fps.
Warfare's graphics reminds me of Crysis 1 so much, both the OG or the remaster.
I'm using LSFG with my 4080 super and it's glass smooth with my Track IR5 just do it.
While I dont necessarily need it, I just bought it earlier tho. But I do notice a difference with AMD fluid motion and lossless scaling. With fluid motion i get over 160fps (on my 144hz screen) in bf2042 for example, but when I quickly move my mouse (which is how FPS basically is supposed to be played) my frames drop down to 78. But with lossless scaling I get 110 at its lowest and 144fps max. Before using lossless scaling I just lock my fps to 72 for bf2042. Does feel a bit smoother as well tho. But with higher demanding games it would be so useful for me as well
you should try performance mode, only difference is the quality will be lowered. but check the fps out. Maybe in 2.9 update
Confused in built-in frame generation in my GPU's driver
Question if I’m capped at a 60hz monitor can I just use this to get 120fps in a game with 60hz still. I just need more fps in my games because I average like 40fps on my low end laptop.
You can't generate frames beyond your monitor refresh rate
Great review. My only concern is compatibiliy with VRR displays. I have 3 1440P 144hz VRR displays on my main setup and then my two TVs are 120hz VRR TVs from Sony and LG. Do I have disable Gync in Nvidia Control panel or does the program not work at all if I'm connected to VRR displays? I don't have any display that's fixed anymore.
No need to turn VRR off. The app works regardless of VRR or not, it just doesn't take advantage of it. Just make sure you are running a stable locked frame rate that's dividable by your display's refresh rate.
@@tidjane2001 thanks. I have actually been using it for a few days since I watched this video and got it all dialed in. Amazing piece of software!
@@tidjane2001can you also cap the framerate with RTSS or do you have to do that with AMD software?
I guess when the frametime is good that's a good base to lock the fps at?
Bro casually rocks dbx 286s like yeah, just a little thing I got for better discord and ingame voip XD
Pretty much. Sadly adds noise (or makes it harder to remove in post with gate/changing volume). Quite literally only works as a gate for Discord/streaming - and those I could really do in software anyway.
I didn't need analogue processing in my setup, but I invested in this a long time ago and had it ever since.
@@TroubleChute does the dbx play nice with things like nvidia broadcast & geforce experience? I noticed a lot of others myself included have sound issues with DAC's and nvidia broadcast & geforce experience recording some days it works some days I spend 8 hours fixing the pops crackles and distortions. Currently running a 2i2 focusrite.
@@DenzelWashingMachine dbx isn't usb. It's just a preamp processor. Sits in between the XLR out of your mic, and the XLR in on your interface. I have the Audient iD14 sitting on top, as the DAC, to get it into my pc. So yes, being an analogue device it doesn't have any effect on specific software.
The changing volume (noise gate, compressor, limiter etc) may have strange effects with programs that automatically adjust volume or something, sure
@@TroubleChute Thx for the info on that I might have to look into it. Having clear audio is huge.
I had it but my God it raises the nosie floor SO MUCH! It essentially had a lot of self noise :/ but it's amazing otherwise
Just tried it out, changed my fucking experience so much.
What scaling should I use for monster hunter?
Now i am sure that DLSS 4.0 will come with 3.0X too but it will be locked to 5xxx series
Bru how do you always have the tutorials for the things I need. Just got star citizen and it runs as well as an old nan on an overly large hampster wheel
Haha, not any Gpu, let alone my 1650. Although hotline miami and crazy taxi both run great at 4k 144hz using the 2x scaling option, 3x creates some obvious artifacting
Lukefz fsr 3 mod works really good , I have 1660 ti , I can even run some of the ray tracing mods with it lol , doom classic , quake 1 , quake 2 rtx 👍 also Last of us , but new Nvidia driver is messing with that game now with memory error... I heard you gotta roll back
@@DrGreenThumbNZL yeah I had to do that in cyberpunk 2077 once since the skin in the character creator was like a shadow figure till I rolled my drivers back, first game so far.
I believe that in the future we will have something called cloud GPUS where we can connect to our main laptop or pc and play games with a GPU through the cloud. I feel like this is possible but hard to create but hey look at cloud pcs now.
I’ve got this software but haven’t really played with it yet. I am wondering if this can have any benefit for VR games?!
too much latency, easily noticeable artifacts would not be enjoyable at all
I wish I could utilize the frame generation but I play on a 4K TV which maxes out at 60 fps so I have to set my max frame rate to 30 and the wavy effect at the bottom of the screen is very noticeable. Still... $8 (in Canada) is worth it for the upscaling so I'll consider it money well spent.
I have bought it recently, but I found out that it doesn't really help as much as I thought. The upscaling and frame-generation features aren't computationally free. You're giving up some FPS to use those features, on which frame generation is performed on. So instead of doubling your FPS, it's more like increasing FPS by 50%. I'd say it shines the most for games with a 30 or 60 FPS cap and you have a high-refresh rate monitor, to then turn on frame interpolation. The upscaling feature isn't that massive, NVIDIA and AMD have both their built-in driver settings for upscaling.
What did you expect? FSR3 and DLSS3 also cost some internal FPS..
Even other frame generation eats some fps to gain more fps
In my case its almost not worth it to use it, lsfg ends up using between 30-40% gpu. So I have to choose, 80 native frames per second or 50 upscaled to 100 interpolated.
What sorcery is this...
This software actually doubled my FPS when playing Re4 Remake from 30 to 60! Well... 720p
My laptop specs:
Ryzen 5 6600H
Radeon 660 (iGPU)
I love this but do you know if I can use it in vr? That would be impressive! Please try to test vrchat
Yes I heard it does work in vr
@@fifaScout-pw3lsno it doesnt, even if it did it wouldn't be enjoyable at all
using it for chrome watching anime / youtube is somewhat a good use case, but the FG quality is not good...
When I clicked on Frame Gen with 2.1 my fps were dropped to 40 FPS, I have a gt710 with a 75hz.
Its pretty cpu based so its probably ur cpu
What is the difference between using this software or just usinf AFMF with an AMD card? Is the outcome just the same?
AFMF disables itself when the motion moves too fast like you flicking your camera. This program is on always and will interpolate every frame it captures all the time.
Afmf will turn off when theres fast movements.
Lossless scaling doesnt. Its a much better version of afmf.
Not just games either.
Try playing around with the play back of some older Blu-ray 35mm and 16mm movies.
so how it would be for the game? is this correct approach?
RTSS cap to 0
Ingame cap to 30
LFG set to x2
then i will have 60fps?
RTSS cap tp 30(I suggest you to limit it to 40 better image quality less input lag) LFG x2=60fps
Could you explain further how you captured the game with the lossless scaling using OBS? Did you use game, window, or display capture? And did you configure any settings on OBS too?
Does it need a minimum DirectX Version by the game used? What is about Vulkan/OpenGL?
If a game has a 60fps internal hardcap, can I use this to get e.g. 120 fps out of it?
Will OBS capture the regular output or the LS Output?
For Vulkan games, make sure to change in NVIDIA for Vulkan to prefer DXGI swapchain instead of native
@@swiftypopty1102 Thanks. But I'm not a fan of it needing windowed mode 😞
Great for games that don't have native upscale or frame generation. I've had issues with titles that already provide this. Lowering frames down to 20 or causing ctd.
Dude GZW with this software made the game actually playable.
$10? Nothing to lose. While you spending thousands in gpu
The video is great but is no one gonna talk about the fucking figure lurking in the background lol 1:06
Thanks for the video man. Would’ve had no idea about this without you covering it.
Any idea how it performs on Vulkan API?
Also, any testing on if it plays nice with ReShade and/or ENB?
This essentially records your screen, and broadcasts it right over your screen. Anything running on your game should work with this.
In-game FX mods, probably. Overlays? I'm not sure.
@@TroubleChute 👍🏼 thanks for the reply. I’ll need to do some testing when I get home.
You should keep your webcam on more!
To bad this only works on One monitor.. i try it for MSFS2020 on triple screen . it only renders one screen . but it works realy amazing for single screen .. i hope they wil fix it for triple screen in the future ,,