Frame Generation for EVERYONE!! Lossless Scaling is MUCH better than I thought!

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    Hello Dear Viewers :D
    For today's video I bring you one of the most requested videos of the past months, testing Lossless Scaling, that delivers FRAME GENERATION for EVERYONE and any game!
    00:00 - Intro (What is Frame Generation)
    02:14 - Lossless Scaling (Pros & Cons)
    05:30 - Alan Wake 2 (Lossless Scaling Test)
    08:05 - Hellblade 2 (Lossless Scaling Test)
    11:46 - PalWorld (Lossless Scaling Test)
    13:37 - Final Thoughts (Performance, quality, etc.)
    15:13 - Channel Members
    15:33 - More Videos
    Hope you enjoy the video. Comment with your thoughts about it. Don't forget to hit like, subscribe and share the video if you can.
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    AMD AM4 PC USED for CPU testing:
    CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
    MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
    RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600MHz CL16)
    SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 1TB
    PSU: BitFenix Whisper 650W+ Gold
    CASE: Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE TG
    INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
    CPU Cooler: Artic Freezer Penta 33
    MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
    RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
    SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
    PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
    CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
    INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
    CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
    MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
    RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
    SSD: 240GB
    SSD (Nvme): 500GB
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm
    PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
    CASE: Phanteks P400A White
    AMD AM5 PC USED for CPU testing:
    CPU Cooler: Enermax Aquafusion 360
    MB: Asrock B650E Taichi
    RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
    SSD (Nvme): 1TB
    PSU: Enermax Revolution D.F.X 1050W (80+ Gold)
    CASE: Enermax StarryKnight SK30
    My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (5.4GHz Static Overclock)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
    MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
    RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
    SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 2TB + 2TB + 4TB
    PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
    CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
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  • @AncientGameplays
    @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +138

    EDIT2: Seems a lot of people skipped this part, but the frame times here are a bit messy because I was recording, otherwise they would be almost flat.
    EDIT: Lossless Scaling also works with Videos!
    Lossless Scaling vs FSR3 Frame generation?
    LS - Works in all games, all GPUs, but needs more power to run, has lower quality (generally) and adds more input latency.
    FSR3 FG - Needs implementation (or mod), needs less power to run (generally) and adds less input latency (unless you use it with V-Sync)

    • @adamadamx5464
      @adamadamx5464 25 дней назад +16

      LSFG is more comparable to AFMF, both technologies don't need implementation.

    • @sc9433
      @sc9433 25 дней назад +37

      We used to joke about downloading more fps. Look where we at now?

    • @quintrapnell3605
      @quintrapnell3605 25 дней назад +5

      It needs VRR support still. It’s neat but still ghetto

    • @Кранчи
      @Кранчи 25 дней назад +3

      I would argue about LS having lower quality. The only games I've seen with DLSS FG working fine was Cyberpunk 2077 & Atomic Heart. Boot up Robocop game for example, the whole UI is a terrible mess and moving the camera creates a ton of visual glitches...
      I've even compares DLSS FG & LSFG in Horizon Forbidden West and LSFG actually did perform better with less image artefacting in general than DLSS FG brought!

    • @Кранчи
      @Кранчи 25 дней назад +2

      @@quintrapnell3605 Lossless Scaling doesn't need VRR support, in fact, it doesn't even support VRR in first place. The "VRR" check is an Legacy feature that was deprecated a long time ago

  • @Bestyja
    @Bestyja 25 дней назад +311

    This is probably a must have for handheld PCs and most laptops

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +24

      true

    • @Genny_Woo
      @Genny_Woo 25 дней назад +1

      Fax

    • @50H3i1
      @50H3i1 24 дня назад +9

      Not if FSR3.1 and AFMF exist

    • @Odin3v
      @Odin3v 24 дня назад +38

      @@50H3i1 Those are only useful in games that have it, so yawn.

    • @ishiddddd4783
      @ishiddddd4783 24 дня назад

      @@50H3i1 afmf is garbage tho, LSFG is what afmf was advertised as, works outside DX11 and 12, and won't turn off on camera movement.

  • @ASTIGINGTUBE
    @ASTIGINGTUBE 24 дня назад +199

    Finally! I can now download more FPS

    • @mczaga
      @mczaga 19 дней назад +7

      but how can i download more RAM?

    • @srdeku
      @srdeku 16 дней назад +12

      @@mczaga Coming soon™

    • @kTrezzy.
      @kTrezzy. 14 дней назад +2

      @@mczaga memreduct

    • @Vomitaco15
      @Vomitaco15 13 дней назад

      ​@@kTrezzy. Based

  • @zretil
    @zretil 25 дней назад +121

    It also works with videos, watching an F1 race at 180fps is quite an experience

    • @soaphelps
      @soaphelps 24 дня назад +21

      the expanse on prime with fsr at 7 and x3 mode is freaking great. no more 24fps cinematic crap.

    • @i_zoru
      @i_zoru 24 дня назад +33

      WAIT IT WORKS ON VIDEO TOO ???!?!?!?

    • @MaTriXPlaysmpv
      @MaTriXPlaysmpv 24 дня назад

      ​@@i_zoruWorks on RUclips, Discord everything

    • @reflectxiii
      @reflectxiii 24 дня назад

      ​@@i_zoruyup👉🏻👌🏻

    • @Tito_BE
      @Tito_BE 24 дня назад

      @@i_zoru yup!! videos, web browser, literally on everything which is insane, also instead of using the "scale" button and waiting 5 secs, just go to the options and set up a shortcut (i have it set to "ctrl + alt + L") that way you can scale and un-scale quicker

  • @MandoMTL
    @MandoMTL 25 дней назад +121

    In a time where GPU prices are beginning to be exclusionary for some, the more of these performance boosting technologies we get, the better.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +29

      Indeed, this one was a VERY good surprise quality wise

    • @bluej511
      @bluej511 25 дней назад +29

      Agree and disagree, great for older hardware but it also makes developers lazy. They don't optimize then just add FSR/DLSS.

    • @DiggetyDank
      @DiggetyDank 25 дней назад +11

      Everyone is starting to lean on upscaling and FG as crutches instead of tools. I absolutely despise FG. Anything that makes the dev teams take time away from the game itself to implement a tool that not even 20% of gamers can use or want atm, is moronic at best. Its smoke and mirrors so that we will talk about the "new and shiny" instead of focusing on the glaring issues that are staining the industry. 👍🖖

    • @MacTavish9619
      @MacTavish9619 25 дней назад +11

      @@bluej511 Remember who was first with soap mode and fake frames. Yes, ngreedia. Never ever forget about this.

    • @bluej511
      @bluej511 25 дней назад +3

      @@MacTavish9619 oh trust me I know, I haven't had their cards in my rig ever. 5770/7850/390/v64/7900xt. Here in France AMD cards are a couple hundred euros cheaper at least.

  • @a-random-guy91
    @a-random-guy91 25 дней назад +105

    you can press ctrl + alt + s (or whatever you want to change it to in the LS settings) to instantly toggle lossless scaling on and off in the current open window without having to tab out and click scale, makes it super convenient

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +16

      that's cool, thanks for letting me know!

    • @shanilsam
      @shanilsam 9 дней назад +1

      You can also setup per game profiles and have it automatically scale after a defined delay

  • @pwnomega4562
    @pwnomega4562 22 дня назад +8

    Rtx 4090: $2000
    Lossless scaling: 7 bucks
    Makes sense money wise.

    • @flipskaterdave
      @flipskaterdave 8 дней назад

      So I’ve spent $2007, still works great on games that have a capped frame rate

  • @InnuendoXP
    @InnuendoXP 24 дня назад +36

    Buying Lossless Scaling for FSR 1.0 back when I was stuck on a GTX970 has just kept paying off more & more! Best $2 spent since Devil Daggers 😂

    • @schatje076
      @schatje076 21 день назад

      What games do u play with lossless scaling

    • @YaBaDji
      @YaBaDji 17 дней назад +2

      Payed 6€ still worth it, playing God of war 90fps on my gtx 970 😂

  • @raven80wolfx2
    @raven80wolfx2 25 дней назад +88

    Its technology like this that makes my 7900 xtx going to last 2 to 3 generations.

    • @soaphelps
      @soaphelps 24 дня назад +6

      my vega 64 with this is going to get a few more generations

    • @aviatedviewssound4798
      @aviatedviewssound4798 24 дня назад +1

      There is no last 3 generation after this, graphics has almost peaked. The only thing missing is raytracing.

    • @Rtx9070ti
      @Rtx9070ti 24 дня назад +12

      ​​@@aviatedviewssound4798 ray tracing with vr is still not a thing and graphics in vr are garbage

    • @ianc8165
      @ianc8165 23 дня назад

      @@aviatedviewssound4798 LMAO what they will forever progress

    • @ursteamfriend
      @ursteamfriend 22 дня назад +1

      ​@@aviatedviewssound4798weve been saying that graphics cant get any better since video games came out i doubt it

  • @dijimond1744
    @dijimond1744 24 дня назад +59

    I bought loseless scaling few years ago and it was very cheap, im suprised they still improve it and add more features 😮

  • @Tr1Angel
    @Tr1Angel 24 дня назад +19

    Playing with it in Helldivers 2. I didn't expect this software is so good.

    • @BeastOrGod
      @BeastOrGod 19 дней назад +1

      my freaking thought exactly.

  • @Кранчи
    @Кранчи 25 дней назад +29

    Some people might experience HUGE FPS drops, constant lags when LSFG is running. If that so for YOUR case, cap your FPS at the number that your PC can handle almost all the time.
    Example: You're getting ~57FPS, cap it on 50

    • @FuukPronouns
      @FuukPronouns 25 дней назад

      Exactly, keep it at a number between its max and min averages or a little lower to guarantee no FPS drop.

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 24 дня назад +9

      generally if you cant run the game without FG at 60fps then using FG will not make it better

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 24 дня назад +7

      It's basically micro stutter because the hardware can't handle pushing the base frame rate above a certain threshold.
      So if on 100% max graphics at native, you hit 60-70 fps, when you enable LSFG 2.1, cap your FPS to maybe 48 at a 3X modifier. This decreases the amount of work the hardware is trying to render, so the base frame rate will not go above 48, but it frees up more resources and keeps latency stable.
      Essentially, try to guess what is the threshold of playing a game at maximum settings, and then lock fps to a stable level below that setting and hope the LSFG is smooth.

    • @melexxa
      @melexxa 24 дня назад

      Lag with LSFG is only caused when running out of VRAM

    • @XxrioterxX12345
      @XxrioterxX12345 16 дней назад +3

      Nope, used it to run Elden Ring at 60 fps on my 3050 laptop at 2.7k resolution ​@damara2268

  • @rzkrdn8650
    @rzkrdn8650 25 дней назад +82

    I honestly can't feel the increased latency even at X3 in Helldivers 2. Pretty neat

    • @Jakiyyyyy
      @Jakiyyyyy 25 дней назад +8

      What is your base fps?

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +41

      some people are more sensitive than others and the higher your base frames the less you notice it

    • @rzkrdn8650
      @rzkrdn8650 25 дней назад +18

      ​@@JakiyyyyyI capped mine at 48 for X3, 72 for X2.
      I only use the framegen though, the upscaling is not too good to my eyes.

    • @Nicolo-ue9xu
      @Nicolo-ue9xu 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@AncientGameplaystrue, I can't like frame gen, when i play with it under 60 fps there is too much input latency and over 60 is pointless at that FPS.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +46

      @@Nicolo-ue9xu "over 60 is pointless at that FPS" NO... it isn't...

  • @Piotsze
    @Piotsze 25 дней назад +13

    The frame generation in Loseless Scaling is pretty nice. Thanks!🙂

  • @OKBUDDY21
    @OKBUDDY21 22 дня назад +8

    Its crazy how good this thing is already. And its only gonna get better and better from here.

  • @GamersForTruth
    @GamersForTruth 22 дня назад +4

    My favorite part of this program, is having the ability to set the resolution to whatever you want when using things like FSR. Being able to fine tune things to find the "sweet spot" in image fidelity is quite nice. And getting any performance boost is a plus.

  • @vin5316
    @vin5316 24 дня назад +3

    Thats keep up the awesome work mate !

  • @chexmixkitty
    @chexmixkitty 24 дня назад +15

    This dev has been on my friends list for years because I had an issue with his software. Added me as a friend to help me through it and he's been there ever since lol.

  • @ClevaTreva
    @ClevaTreva 25 дней назад +15

    I've just tried this with MSFS 2020 just for the frame generation - it's incredible! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @wardehaj
    @wardehaj 17 дней назад +1

    Great video, thanks a lot!

  • @overclockingorobsolete
    @overclockingorobsolete 24 дня назад +3

    ai caralho, magic :D A game changer for the laptop users, thank you for covering that

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 24 дня назад +3

    🙂 neat primo, never heard of this program, thanks for the review

  • @deus_nsf
    @deus_nsf 24 дня назад +2

    YES! Thank you for talking about it! I'm going to do multi GPU with an old GPU for general purpose compute (not SLI) but that can be used for frame gen over PCIe! (check your bandwidth though!)

  • @GweenImp
    @GweenImp 16 дней назад +2

    Been using this on RUclips videos too! It's so nice!

  • @rzultamorda
    @rzultamorda 25 дней назад +12

    In my opinion, LL is much better than AFMF. It doesn't turn off, has far fewer artifacts, and I can actually feel the improved FPS. I use it when playing Genshin, which is locked to 60 FPS, but with LL, it's 144 FPS. There are some artifacts, but they are minimal and a small drawback for a much better experience. I don't even feel increased input latency probably, because of controller.

  • @sc9433
    @sc9433 25 дней назад +19

    Finally! Ive been waiting for u to cover this!
    It works for browsers netflix/youtube and even movies too.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +6

      Thanks for asking me haha

    • @sc9433
      @sc9433 25 дней назад +2

      @@AncientGameplays will it be possible to stack AFMF and LS frame gen together?

    • @Anthonyy_7
      @Anthonyy_7 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@sc9433you probably can but I'd assume the end result (as in smoothness and input lag) wouldn't be great

    • @SpeedsterBlur
      @SpeedsterBlur 25 дней назад

      ​@sc9433 Yes, but it's not recommended. I haven't tested it, but a few people have reported double the framerate of using just lossless scaling. Though I'm a bit skeptical, they could actually tell they got their reported framerate.

    • @Jakiyyyyy
      @Jakiyyyyy 24 дня назад

      How about stacking FSR 3 FG and LSFG instead? 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @dewthegreat9270
    @dewthegreat9270 24 дня назад

    this small application is just pure magic bro, it enhanced my game so much idk how it happens but im just happy that my games are running at high frame rate on high settings

  • @todd92371
    @todd92371 12 дней назад +1

    Awesome video and thanks.

  • @avokato93
    @avokato93 25 дней назад +30

    I highly recommend trying this program when watching movies (or youtube), totally different experience

    • @Euronius
      @Euronius 24 дня назад +4

      That's what I mainly use it for, as I already have a powerful enough PC. It's a game changer!

    • @azimaiman2454
      @azimaiman2454 24 дня назад

      I have used it and damn the video is super smooth until i get motion sickness🤣

    • @mohamadanas6203
      @mohamadanas6203 24 дня назад

      How to use it on youtube, the app dont let me use it. It said i need to be in game window

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 24 дня назад +2

      If only you can enable it when you stream to a VR headset like Quest 3... LOL...? Pretty sure the program doesn't work with VR titles anyways, since VR software uses reprojection.

  • @K4ORl
    @K4ORl 20 дней назад +5

    Now i can use my GTX 1080 ti until i die

  • @Silent-1983
    @Silent-1983 25 дней назад +2

    Thank you! ❤

  • @G.HulkSlayer
    @G.HulkSlayer 24 дня назад +1

    Nice piece of software, awesome video Fabio

  • @le0ger254
    @le0ger254 25 дней назад +3

    thx for looking at this. i love this program. and u can use frame gen with ur browser too.

  • @jaydaytoday3548
    @jaydaytoday3548 24 дня назад +4

    This pairs perfectly for Rog Ally with its 120 vrr screen.

  • @marcogalliani279
    @marcogalliani279 25 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the video, very interesting and comprehensive! greetings from Italy👋

  • @RuslanDoman
    @RuslanDoman 25 дней назад +2

    I’m very glad that you touched on the FG topic and sorted everything out 👍
    And one more thing - I thought that only I had dust on my monitor, although I constantly wipe my monitor 😁

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +2

      People living in the attic be like haha

    • @RuslanDoman
      @RuslanDoman 24 дня назад +2

      @@AncientGameplays And really, I didn't think anything of it 🤔
      Ha-ha 😁

  • @rafmc6053
    @rafmc6053 25 дней назад +18

    I was thinking, there is a new version of the LS, maybe Fabio would check it out. And there's a movie about how good it is that Nosferatu can read minds 😉🙋

  • @omnifox6308
    @omnifox6308 25 дней назад +3

    I have been using this in the nolvus mod pack for skyrim and it works great so long as you turn it on when the game is running not in a loading screen as it sometimes glitches. I have set fps max to 40, using shift+enter in game, this makes it run at stable 120fps if you use x3 which to my eyes looked just as good with more smoothness than just x2. This tech is the future and i would not be surprised to see it get twice as good within 2 years.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад

      It is one of the most important things to improve right now, like upscaling

    • @ASTIGINGTUBE
      @ASTIGINGTUBE 24 дня назад

      What your GPU? im planning to play Skyrim Nolvus as well.

  •  20 дней назад +1

    Nice video.
    Just to add, you can use the performance mode for frame generation in the application. It is almost impossible to notice any different on image quality.
    And another advantage of LS is that it can be used to watch videos on Netflix, RUclips, etc... it works.

  • @chibonchibon3967
    @chibonchibon3967 24 дня назад +1

    Your content is geared to real gamers , I love it

  • @sippi18fd
    @sippi18fd 25 дней назад +4

    This is MUCH.....MUCH better than AFMF. This is actually feels like an in game frame gen. Big thank you for the video.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +1

      Agreed (apart from the latency)

    • @mondhersmida6187
      @mondhersmida6187 24 дня назад +1

      @@AncientGameplays you can reduce latency by enabling nvidia reflex in rtss or special k

  • @quintrapnell3605
    @quintrapnell3605 25 дней назад +3

    Really nice cut to phone. Seamless. Chefs kiss

  • @rodrigopinchiari4027
    @rodrigopinchiari4027 8 дней назад +1

    Hello Fabio!
    Great review brother...
    Have a good one!!!

  • @5izzy557
    @5izzy557 19 дней назад +1

    Been using it for Elden Ring & Emulators, it's been fantastic playing Zelda TOTK with much smoother motion than my system could handle natively, and Elden Ring is capped at 60fps so doubling that is very nice. Fantastic software.

  • @bobbymois
    @bobbymois 25 дней назад +4

    It also works great for emulator or games with 30 fps limit like FF10 HD Remaster. I also can play Elden Ring with 120 FPS without a Mod that disables Online stuff.

  • @wingmanemu3473
    @wingmanemu3473 25 дней назад +38

    to use DXGI u need to lock ur frame rate to something u can maintain, for example 50fps, it will look much better this way

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 24 дня назад +4

      3X multiplier and lock to 48 FPS if you have a 144 hz monitor, it'll basically triple it and give you consistent smooth frames, at least for V Rising I don't see much artifacting and such, due to having more stable frame rate.
      You will see artifacts more if you allow the base framerate to jump up and down a ton, which happens if your GPU can't run the game at 100% native, my RX 7900 XTX can, but will also run VERY VERY hot!
      So Lossless scaling helps keeps the image smooth and good while cutting the heat produced down to like 30%?

    • @wingmanemu3473
      @wingmanemu3473 24 дня назад +1

      @@dra6o0n not only heat but electric consumption!

    • @Karan-un8uz
      @Karan-un8uz 21 день назад

      ​@@dra6o0nhow do i lock the frames at 48

  • @ArchivoMed
    @ArchivoMed 22 дня назад

    Como sempre, excelente video!

  • @Nlnjaboy
    @Nlnjaboy 24 дня назад

    glad you had a change of heart brother.. i was sure you would play with it after i mentioned it was updated and working well in hell blade 2 , on my 7900 xt i was able to play native at 60 if i used 3x scale . yeah theres some lag but this game it dont really matter you can time the parry still just have to hit it early.. nothing else in this game takes any timing lol,,,, touche my good man i enjoyed that video

  • @spacechannelfiver
    @spacechannelfiver 25 дней назад +6

    The option to "have it off"; made me laugh. It means something quite different from your intention in UK English. Edit: Forgot I bought this ages and ages ago when it first came out; will have to give it another go. Cyberpunk is something I struggle to get much above 60FPS once the basic RT settings (not PT) are turned on.

  • @CruciallyUltrawide
    @CruciallyUltrawide 24 дня назад +5

    Using this with Elden Ring. Gets me 120 interpolated frames, and it looks buttery smooth. Doing this since ER doesn't go higher than 60fps. A nice workaround that doesn't inject itself into the game, leading to full compatibility with online play.

    • @jvictorc_
      @jvictorc_ 18 дней назад +1

      I was thinking to buy to use on ER, do you think its worth? After the dlc came i lost like 10/15 FPS on DLC areas

    • @CruciallyUltrawide
      @CruciallyUltrawide 18 дней назад

      @@jvictorc_ Definitely worth the money in my opinion. But before you decide to get it, just know that it will never be as good as a native framegen implementation as it doesn’t use any motion vectors to predict what the next frame should look like.
      Some artifacta will appear, and under darklit areas, it could get confused and cause weird artifacts there too.
      But in general, it’s an awesome solution for something that doesn’t go beyond a certain fps cap.
      I even tried this on the Wii U emulator Cemu with The Wind Waker which is 30fps capped. It looked buttery smooth… amazing tool.

    • @jvictorc_
      @jvictorc_ 18 дней назад

      @@CruciallyUltrawide Thank you so much bro, i already bought and my game feel a lot better

  • @user-on8bh8ws8o
    @user-on8bh8ws8o 24 дня назад +1

    I like how you can use it with videos and emulators and even movies that is an impressive thing

  • @CliffCloudz
    @CliffCloudz 4 дня назад +2

    I cant even play games without it on now LOL love this app

  • @Serandi1987
    @Serandi1987 25 дней назад +9

    The last time I've used Lossless scaling is with the new but not completely finished versions of Oddworld Abe's Oddysee & Exoddus HD Mod!
    Its really cool because the games don't run at full screen but lossless scaling can help with this and can enhance the quality of the picture overall 👍🏻👀

  • @atirta777
    @atirta777 25 дней назад +5

    It's crazy this is better than AFMF. It even works with VRR if "Optimizations for windowed games" is enabled in Windows. AMD you gotta step it up and not disable AFMF with movement (or have an option for it)

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +2

      Yes, AFMF works fine, but not as "smooth" in most games sadly, and deactivates when doing fast movements. To my eyes, this is better

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 24 дня назад +3

      @@AncientGameplays AFMF imo is pointless in current state. The fact that it creates stutter by turning off during any slightly faster movement which is typical for games defeats its original purpose to make gameplay smoother...

  • @pv8685
    @pv8685 5 дней назад +2

    losless scaling saved my mini pc with ryzen apu! what an awesome review!

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  5 дней назад +1

      Have a mini pc video coming out today!

    • @pv8685
      @pv8685 5 дней назад

      @@AncientGameplays nice!! I will watch it!

  • @gregwallacees3195
    @gregwallacees3195 23 дня назад

    This one is a godsend

  • @adrianC_
    @adrianC_ 25 дней назад +8

    Lossless Scaling works on video too, I like watching animation movies in 3x the fps to 72fps.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +5

      That gives me motion sickness

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT 21 день назад

      I'm one of the very few people that *adores* 'the soap opera effect'.
      'Will have to give this a try.

  • @TheRealEclipse1
    @TheRealEclipse1 14 дней назад +1

    This is a must for emulation.

    • @TheRealEclipse1
      @TheRealEclipse1 14 дней назад +1

      Also Elden Ring. It's better than the FPS mods to unlock frame rate.

  • @RichardBejtlich
    @RichardBejtlich 24 дня назад

    Nice video as always. Just wondering if CapFrameX might provide accurate stats?

  • @darkassasin111
    @darkassasin111 25 дней назад +3

    I tried to use this program's upscaling for better framerates in a couple games. It worked, but I had a noticeable increase in latency no matter which settings I used.
    I'm pretty latency sensitive though, so just be wary if you are too.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад +2

      Yeah, upscaling isn't worth it IMO, if you have a high refresh rate panel though, use their FG and going from let's say 80 to 140FPS is a massive smoothness difference IMO

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 24 дня назад

      you need to make sure that the output FPS from the framegen roughly matches your monitor refresh rate. Thats the sweet spot for lowest latency.

    • @ashishjayas7006
      @ashishjayas7006 24 дня назад

      Cap your fps to 30 or 60, Check performance and allow tearing in lossless then you will have low latency

    • @imonutiy
      @imonutiy 16 дней назад

      I think frametime what matters for latency too, because basically its time for a new frame data arrive and then be used by the app to drawn extra frame. Longer frame time more latency, so if you can get maximum stable 20 fps you frame time will be longer than if you are generating of 60 fps base.

  • @TiGeRoof
    @TiGeRoof 24 дня назад +2

    Finally " download fps with 5mb "

  • @antondovydaitis2261
    @antondovydaitis2261 24 дня назад

    Thank you.

  • @mkedzier123
    @mkedzier123 23 дня назад +2

    Lossless Scaling is great - specifically its frame generation. I use it on my handheld PC (Legion Go) - and it is a game changer. For game that struggle to run at 60fps, I just lock them at 30fps and use Lossless Scaling to convert it into smooth 60fps. This lets you get very smooth gameplay on games that previously struggled.

  • @sohaibahmadpoor3215
    @sohaibahmadpoor3215 25 дней назад +46

    Jesus is Back

  • @Serandi1987
    @Serandi1987 25 дней назад +3

    A RTX 4000 GPU with FG makes RTX 5000 GPUs unnecessary!😅

  • @geoffreywright9933
    @geoffreywright9933 24 дня назад +1

    It's great for those older games and ports that are locked at 60, now you can at least frame gen to 120 so it looks smoother.

  • @sixtenalin
    @sixtenalin 5 дней назад +1

    loseless scaling is rather insane for emulated games aswell, as some emulated games you can even patch with 60fps patches and while if you can run these games at 100% locked internal game speed, you will basically get an experience which is 180fps locked if you have a 240hz monitor or greater. And the visual artifacts aren't as bad as it were before, it actually looks and plays well in most games.

  • @ImaNoobatStuffs
    @ImaNoobatStuffs 11 дней назад +1

    Something you can do to increase the quality and stabilty of this frame gen is to cap your fps. if your're getting a constant 75ish fps you lock your frames to 60 and then enable the x2 or x3. this way you always give the frame generation a constant stream of frames so that it can place the generated frames with better timing and quality.

  • @maesde
    @maesde 11 дней назад +1

    We just purchased this with my gf and have already improved our experience in a super heavy game (Darktide 40k) which is awesome. I'm sure FSR and DLSS 3 are both slightly better, BUT there is no (bad) impact we could detect in gameplay while the smoothness gains were incredible. Really recommend this to everyone.

  • @djdee607
    @djdee607 24 дня назад +1

    Thank you for tip @AncientGameplays. Can you maybe make a video tutorial about the different settings and options within the software.

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 8 дней назад +1

    Pretty good despite the heavy input lag

  • @Fonis13
    @Fonis13 25 дней назад +1

    Man, this channel is gold ! Good job Fabio. There is any way to display the FPS number on screen ?

  • @Fearless13468
    @Fearless13468 24 дня назад +2

    I just got this yesterday. It is really good at times. There are times where you can't even tell it's on in terms of artifacts. Even the 3x mode is really impressive. I have a second GPU, so being able to use that instead of my primary GPU is also really nice. There is almost no performance hit when turning it on.

    • @ati4280
      @ati4280 24 дня назад

      Does this mean no cost on fps when using a secondary GPU like iGPU?

    • @Fearless13468
      @Fearless13468 24 дня назад

      @@ati4280 Not sure. How much the framerate is impacted really depends on the base framerate. The higher the base framerate the more fps impact, and less effective the FG is. I tried using FG on my laptop as well. It doesn't have a discrete GPU and only has an iGPU (IrisXE). The performance was awful. I wouldn't recommend using FG on an older/weaker iGPU. A newer one might work, though I'm not sure if you can make the iGPU run FG. My desktop doesn't have an iGPU so I can't test it.

    • @ati4280
      @ati4280 24 дня назад

      @@Fearless13468 I mean use iGPU for framegen, dGPU for game rendering. In this case, can we expect nearly zero impact on base fps?

    • @Fearless13468
      @Fearless13468 24 дня назад

      @@ati4280 I can't say. I don't have any way to test it.

  • @xosece
    @xosece 24 дня назад +1

    incredible app. I use 3X FG with Performance mode, not many base fps lost, works really well, so impressive. You save money to buy a new CPU, or even GPU, and it's huge value

  • @jhonrock2386
    @jhonrock2386 19 дней назад

    I saw a guy using it with the Legion Go handheld to play some games using the X3 mode and became quite impressed with what I saw. He locked the game framerate at 20fps and show some gameplay, which was clearly quite bad, but once he activated the X3 fremagen mode, the game started to run at 60fps and the increase in smoothnesss was clear as day.

  • @masic.
    @masic. 9 дней назад

    Just got it probably the most valuable $6 I’ve ever spent works on my 7800xt like a charm, it’s crazy it works for every game.

  • @mohamadanas6203
    @mohamadanas6203 24 дня назад +1

    This is the true "How to improve your fps in game"

  • @kerm7657
    @kerm7657 20 дней назад +2

    My use case for this has been for emulating older games stuck at 30fps with no 60fps patches (ones that don’t break the game logic anyway)
    Makes wind waker Hd look even more stunning at 4k

  • @bryanyawn
    @bryanyawn 24 дня назад +1

    Looks like there still are years ahead for my Gtx 970!

  • @wiz956
    @wiz956 18 дней назад +2

    Actually it’s funny I tried using it on my web browser while watching your video and now im watching you with more fps 😂

  • @BeeAVillain
    @BeeAVillain 13 дней назад

    FINALLY now i might be able to play the finals on my laptop (no chance in hell)

  • @astreakaito5625
    @astreakaito5625 24 дня назад +2

    Incredible app, I just wish the x3 mode didn't require such pinpoint refresh rate accuracy to get correct framepacing, especially when VRR just isn't supported (and I wouldn't use it with VRR anyway because BFI is superior)

  • @Simpleman1995
    @Simpleman1995 23 дня назад

    Great video Bro.im going to test it today in some games.
    ( I wish we could live in a world without dust! i am tired of cleaning my fans😂)

  • @elfo7
    @elfo7 25 дней назад +1

    Very nice video as always, I also have this tool and it is really amazing besides the input lag which sometimes is really noticeable, but still. I tried to turn on radeon anti lag but didn't notice much of a difference, maybe you could also try it.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  25 дней назад

      You have the allow tearing option that delivers lower latency

  • @williamcrooksii9139
    @williamcrooksii9139 6 дней назад +1

    I had LSS almost when they first came out. From point A,B and to C he has come a long ways. When frame gen first came out it was rough. But he keeps tweaking and every update there is always improvements he does. The second frame gen update came up and it was better. Than the third frame gen update came out and wow. Can't wait for hes next update.

  • @vincenttaurus7011
    @vincenttaurus7011 24 дня назад +2

    I bought this two weeks ago when 2.1 dropped. This program is five dollars and totally worth it. It is amazing when you are emulating PlayStation 3 games. I was playing metal gear solid four in 4K at 120 FPS. That alone was worth the five dollars for me.

  • @MihaleMC
    @MihaleMC 24 дня назад +1

    Small question here, does Lossless Scaling inject itself into the game? If yes wouldn't that be a problem with games that have an anticheat because the anticheat would think that you are injecting cheats?

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  24 дня назад

      It injects on top of it, that's ehy it works with videos as well. It shouldnt be an issue for most games

  • @danielphillips1171
    @danielphillips1171 24 дня назад

    The latency is matched by your base frame rate. Try and keep it as high as possible. Enable reflex in Riva Tiner for after burner and your good to go even at 3x the latency is fine at 40 frames or more base.

  • @katogonkato
    @katogonkato 24 дня назад

    This really helped my rx580 since I still don't have the money to upgrade my gpu.

  • @Chobbito
    @Chobbito 2 дня назад

    Been using this awhile now and just use LS/FSR for upscaling to negate the initial FPS drop, 2X Frame Gen, enable Screen Tearing (which I'm still yet to see actually happen on any game) to remove most of the input latency. Just as important though for smoother gaming is to limit the initial frame rates to half your screens max rate (or as close as you can get) before activating Lossless Scaling.
    Such a game changer for alot of games

  • @SpudCommando
    @SpudCommando 25 дней назад +1

    Thanks for covering this, it works great for CPU bottlenecked games like Baldurs Gate 3.

  • @alone-vf4vy
    @alone-vf4vy 23 дня назад

    it works so good in Star Citizen ❤

  • @BenniRoR
    @BenniRoR 16 дней назад

    I just can't get the frame gen to work for me. I'm using borderless window mode, capping my FPS rate to 72, but it just won't work for me. Any advice?

  • @ThermaL-ty7bw
    @ThermaL-ty7bw 22 дня назад

    you can combine different frame generations , you want 240 fps for your 240 monitor , it's an option now
    this last version of Lossless Scaling is pretty damn good ...
    i set it to 3x , but aim for 2x and lock it at 120 fps
    playing games in 4K at 120fps ( with just a 2080ti ) is amazing , especially when you can still upscale it with LS1 and sharpen it up
    and i'm just doing this on a 1080P projector , resolution set to DSR 1440p , playing games in 4K upscaled and sharpened , just amazing ,
    all this new scaling and frame gen , has bought me a few more years before i feel the need to put together another computer

  • @blackstar-genX
    @blackstar-genX 25 дней назад +2

    I use it for it's fsr and custom upscaler. On any games that doesn't have an proper upscaler.

  • @alexisvicencio4327
    @alexisvicencio4327 3 дня назад +1

    Some FACTS:
    - Cap your FPS half of your monitor.. if you have 144hz cap to 70fps .. you will recieve double fps and reducing temperatures. (PC will think you are playing at 70fps)
    - Use BICUBIC CAS for the scaling, is the BEST.
    - If you have a VRR monitor with high refresh rate you will not notice the input lag.
    - in Windows 11 activate the option to optimize windowed mode.
    - Most of the games use "Fullscreen" but is bordeless.. Directx dont use Exclusive Fullscreen in games anymore. there are a few games that does.. but mostly not

  • @ElMaxRaikkonen
    @ElMaxRaikkonen 24 дня назад +1

    Works well for 60fps capped games or emulation if you need more fps in PS1/2 games

  • @LRK-GT
    @LRK-GT 21 день назад

    Thanks to your video, I just purchased it on Steam.
    I'm assuming this is a small/individual dev team; they can have my $7. That's barely a coffee, these days.

  • @lilpain1997
    @lilpain1997 24 дня назад +1

    I got this as it was cheap and tbh... Its actually damn good. I usually dont care or use this stuff but seeing as this can be used on games that have FPS caps without modding the game I thought heck why not

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  24 дня назад +1

      you did well

    • @lilpain1997
      @lilpain1997 24 дня назад

      @@AncientGameplays yeah I think I will use this on my emulators for stuff like Zelda TOTK where it just all over the place so 60 just isnt happening. Cap to 30 up to 60 and its fine on controller. Mouse and keyboard though I notice it straight away

  • @JohnDoe-ix4kx
    @JohnDoe-ix4kx 24 дня назад

    On my laptop I use the integrated GPU for image scaling and frame generation and my main GPU for rendering the game allowing the use of lossless scaling with no performance impact on the games base framerate.
    I also use all the various latency reducing techniques like nvidia reflex, amd anti-lag, windows GPU scheduling, low latency driver settings set at max, and turning on the allow tearing option in lossless scaling, and in all my testing so far even when scaling up from base framerates as low as 25 FPS the input latency remains a complete non issue in most titles.
    Though some games seem to have terrible latency regardless of base framerate whether frame generation is enabled or not and seems to be related to the specific way the title handles inputs, Ghost of Tsushima for example has fantastic input latency even at low base FPS, whereas The Division 2 has horrible latency even at high base FPS.
    I now use lossless scaling whenever I'm gaming on my laptop and pretty much lock framerates to 30-40 FPS and scale up with frame generation to reduce the fan noise and temperatures. On my main PC I don't really need it but It's cool to know it's available.